actually it’s more: 1 - too hard to play 2 - too inconsistent to play 3 - too underwhelming to play 4 - too weak early game to play 5 - too uncomfortable to play
Its so damn sad that every champ nowadays designed to have as broken mechanics as possible with no visible flaws. Only flaws they have is the lack of strenght they have on one part of the game.
@@strider8662 I really don't think I agree, new champs are often broken, but flawless? come on. lets say samira for example, yes she was broken, but she had a very obvious flaw: if you want to do any damage you physically have to all in at melee range, which is dangerous because you're a squishy adc who's vulnerable to burst damage. flaws aren't bad game design, its just that kennans flaws create a confused playstyle that players struggle to make work
@@oneringtorulethemagicarp7199 here is the thing with Samira, even after nerfs she is one of the tankiest and hardest to kill adcs in the game (alongside the ones like draven and lucian in stat-wise). And she has one thing that almost no other ADC has, burst damage. She is one of the few if not only adc with up front dps instead of long, consistent damage. There is no other ADC that can deal that much damage without getting killed despite her terrible range (which means she doesnt even have to position herself at all, thats literally the most important ADC skill). And on top of that she is good early, mid and late game so she doesnt fall off either. Even her weaknesses are there only when she doesnt need it.
i play Kennen a lot. he's fun and he's a solid laner. The issue is. He's outdated. Kennen without ultimate is essentially useless. Esp since so many champs have gap closers now... You're just gonna get hopped on when ur ult is down
His original identity was being one of the most mobile champions in the game but now that’s a laughable claim, lightning rush is just so outclassed in terms of functionality. Would love to see a minor rework to play up the lightning fast mobile ninja design
I've been working with predator and reduced item cooldown runes these days, and he hasn't been bad at all for me in solo lanes. By far my safest pick, that still has a use late game.
I use Kennen's ulti just to harrass in lane then i get such a huge lead that even with my low hp my dmg is way too high and if i play safe you cant kill me
@@AlryFireBlade Nerfing the champion instead of the actual problem and then nerfing/removing the actual problem later on without undoing the nerfs is the Riot special by now
I really love Kennen. My biggest problem is just that he has way too much counterplay and also just feels so weak in laning phase. His potential in the lategame is completely crazy but it can be quite difficult to get there. I think if his laning phase was re designed into a midlane champion he would be way more fun to play
It's called balance, something people don't see these days. I mean Zilean and Anivia are good examples balanced since they don't get played in competitive that often and still playable in SoloQ. Also their kits maybe outdated but still manage to do better than than most other champions.
The real reason nobody plays Kennen is that he had so many consecutive nerfs that made him feel like absolute shit to play. Everything from his last hitting to his damage was gutted the last ~3 years.
@@MerlinCross13 actually, attack speed makes sense, because that procs his w passive, which applies extra on hit ap damage, and a mark of the storm. Kennen's abilities mark the enemies, and 3 marks stun them, so if he has that on his auto attack, then he can either do that combo afar without his e, or without his q to make it undodgeable. That why people build attack speed on him. That extra ability is really helpful in the leaning phase, and for ganking. (gosh, I sound like a pro player, who defends every idiocy in game design)
he does have some good wave management with his ew, but the thing is he just doesn't have anything to actually get into the backline, meanwhile Vlad can just ult on you, hold his period blood down and turn into blood spraying your team to get a penta thanks to the added movement speed he gets from phase rush, but Kennen can't just turn untargettable and thus, feels bad.
I personally love the explosive duality of champions like Kennen, and here's why: 1 - As both a mage and assassin main, champs like him are the only ones that allow you to enjoy both the long range safe neutral game of a mage _and_ the explosive all-in of an assassin. 2 - The duality of his kit makes room for a certain trickster mindset when playing, and there's nothing better than out of the blue just suddenly exploding the face of that pesky other player that spent half the laning phase disrespecting you. All in all the Kennen archetype is a hard one to find and removing that duality for a more "intuitive" mainstream playstyle would leave a lot of people without anywhere to go, I think. Champs like Kennen don't need to be super popular, they just need to be there for the dedicated few that love them in a way they just can't love anyone else. Maybe give him a blink tho, take Alice from Mobile Legends who has lissandra blink (ik mobile moba but please stick with me)
I don't even think it's necessarily that, since people are playing tanks that have been resurged. I think his biggest issue is itemization. The only time you can vary your build up is 4+ items in most matchups, so if his core 3 items aren't good then he just doesn't feel good to play. I feel like he's similar to ekko in that way. Ekko will be dropped from the face of the earth until protobelt gets buffed. Then ekko is pick or ban and while Kennen isn't to that extreme anymore, he definitely used to be.
Def an underrated champion, I usually play him mid rather than top simply because of how unrewarding it is to lane with him. Mid allows you to roam and look for 2v2s and 3v3s whenever the lane is boring and you can go electrocute and ignite to threaten kills and boost his damage. his playstyle doesn't really change since you're always looking for all-ins and teamfights in the midlane and you can potentially hard carry and snowball the lane. Playing him top is VERY different than playing him mid, most of the time you have to either play aery and poke or play phase rush and look for tp plays with your ult.
hmm, so he's considered weak beacause.... he's balanced.... oh well it's league after all, it makes sense people wouldn't wanna play something that's not broken
I mean, a lot of champs are pretty balanced, they are just focused towards a point, a great example is kass, you need to abuse kass bad early game to beat him
I have kennen as a backup if my irelia gets picked or banned I personally really enjoy his playstyle I do think he can definitly get a buff csing is quite weird and you have to put all ur abilities on cd to stun someone wich makes the stun fairly useless as you can’t really follow up with such bad autoattacks
@@AnimagusPlays When you say picked I assume its because the other toplaner picks her, not your own midlaner. Kennen's worst matchups are Irelia and Camille
I love this series! I've played this game for years now and have tried all the champs and you do a great job of putting words as to why these champs feel bad/weird to me. I can just point people to your videos to help them understand why a champ feels weird to them.
He's supposed to be like, speedy, electric, surge, etc. Literally make his ultimate like Pikachu's final smash where he just blinks around untargettable shocking enemies. But I guess thats just master Yi's Q on an ult lol
Tried to be a Kennen main when I started playing years ago. He’s still my favorite champ but good god can I just not be fucked to play him often, if at all.
Just make it so he doesn't have to go in WITH the ult but let it be a storm cloud that he can shoot into a direction. The further he aims it, the faster it goes but if he aims it closer it also moves slower. (Imagine it being aimed like the hecarim ult). At 3 stacks the enemy get stunned but they can try to move out of that big aoe before it reaches that amount to dodge it. The speed of the cloud also influences the chance to hit the enemys with all 3 stacks. Allows for counterplay. Then give him movementspeed inside of that aoe but no dmg buff. He can then use it as a way to get behind the enemy line or in a pinch to get away. Fixed.
Neeko's release completely killed Kennen's career imo, shes kennen but with a better engage and a shield on her ult, plus everything is instant, i switched to neeko top from kennen and havent looked back since.
Watching T1 picking kennen literally every time and beating HLE top laner picks and then coming here ... I guess most people should give kennen a chance
He just needs a rework, keep the ult and the stun passive, but the rest of the kit needs revamp. He’s a ninja who doesn’t feel very ninjay... he need more on the lightning rush like a blink or dash (ninja like). His q feels very bland. And the W feels like a chore to manage. It might even be cool to be a ranged when far and melee when close champ. TLDR... Rework my champ please :,(
Well that Was kinda badly researched, a lot of flaws from kennen could be applied to neeko, her ult also Puts her into danger and contradicts her nature as a frail Ranged champ, it also need external sources of engage
1) better and safer wave clear by means of his q discharging stored electricity upon impact and applying his passive 2) better mobility maybe a dash with two charges
Would love to see lightning rush made into a dash like Two charges, maybe a little longer range than Arhis ult. Or a short range dash that refreshes each time you proc mark of the storm
@@bringanotebook28 You're right, but Kennen in the right hands is a very frustrating champ to deal with for melee champs, especially those without dashes or only 1 dash and no cc. You can really see how weak Kennen is if he is played into something that can get to him and lock him down for just 0.5 second, thinking of stuff like Camille, Irelia, Yone and Sylas, those champs actually just demolish him and just farm him for kills, while champs like Illaoi, Urgot, Darius etc. cant play lane against a good Kennen. Thats what I mean by his E being toxic, because for some champs, it makes the lane super uninteractive, while for others its irrelevant.
This video explains very well why Kennen is an amazing support. Let me expound: Botlane frequently consists of two squishy champs. And at least always one. And he is... very good at dealing with those. While he is good with poking and can be good with cc. The real power comes in these two traits: Combining hexflash with his ult on bot makes it near impossible for their ADC to escape. And his presence at dragon is very valuable. Because he is so powerful in teamfights. He does phenomenally well in the support role. You should be able to make a large amount of $$ from your poking and get a good number of kills early with flash ult, or hexflash ult. Because of that, I never have to worry about getting rocketbelt. But I go straight into night harvester. Which makes a massive difference in damage. Just ban Leona if you go support.
YES. Im actually testing Kennen sup rn and im so hyped! No need to farm cs means more time to poke with endless AAs Qs and Ws. And then he has crazy mobility to kite out enemy sup. And then he has CC which is sorta easy to proc and is extremely useful to create kill angles or just disengage. I also like to take exhaust because it turns off one enemys damage early on in order for you to live or slows another low hp enemy to run them down. And then rocketbelt and level 6 come in... so mobility is even higher while cc is even more disguisting for enemies. Gank potential is really good too because of free Es with no cd and no mana requirement. You can basically go mid then just chunk opp midlaner and get back to botlane in a matter of seconds. And as a support you can and you should choose those cheaper utility AP items like rocketbelt or even rylais. His damage with these items is still fine because supports arent really about damaging but about peeling and providing utility things to a teammates who damage instead of you and that gained utility helps you to shine
As a Seraphine main, I have been unsuccessful in finding a support that is more fun to play than the starry-eyed songstress. People knock her, but that usually means they haven't tried her.
what if Riot would rework kennen E to instead being a movement speed buff , to turn it into 2 small fast dashes with 2 charges, so he actually feels like he'a lightning ball by teleporting around instead of being just faster. this way his mobility problem would be solved for the most part
@@viperdragon35lol6 yea, it just dosent feel right for his E to be a movement speed buff. im thinking a smaller version of Storm Spirit Ult from dota 2 where you can teleport around but with 2 charges and an ok distance and speed.
Kennen sounds like an ADC character forced into top lane... God, as someone who played off-role gods in SMITE, I want to try all these Ranged top laners as ADCs and just experiment.
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As a Kennen main I found this not only a very fair analysis, but extremely insightful. Very well done! I agree with what some have said, give him even more armor and/or magic resist during his ult. A dash would be fine too, but shouldn't decrease the damage output. As the video states, Kennen is extremely fair, so he shouldnt take a nerf just to get back to the level of all the broken meta champs.
I really wish Kennen was better suited as a mid laner but one problem I’ve found the most is his lack of wave clear. I’d have to run ingenious Hunter with protobelt just to help clear waves. I was thinking of maybe giving his Q hit a sorta aoe effect when it hits a target, a bit like Lissandra Q. It’d deal significantly less damage but it’ll help getting his stacks on minions (or champion) without using his E
@@rayian536 yea and better all around, she gets ms from w (although not nearly as fast as kennen). aoe stun with e, like kennen but kennen has to stack passive, and ranged dmg ability thats also aoe, and kennens just single target. Just a better kennen
@@DONSMOKEPAPI Not really. Kennen remains a staple in proplay whereas Neeko is considered a dead champion. He has better overall kite/escape potential, energy instead of mana, his ult is stronger than hers and his kit gimmick isn't reliant on the enemy not paying attention. Neeko can do easier soloQ plays where people often don't pay attention but ultimately she has lower skill floor and thus lower payoff and overall potential in the long run.
@@BrutalSalamander1 i agree with u, but i didnt take proplay into consideration in my comment, i was just talking about daily, regular people playing. I also think kennens ult is better since he doesnt have to charge it for a second like neeko has to, he insta ults. I also think his e is more effective than neekos cloning, but in day to day league for regulars neeko is much better than kennen.
@@DONSMOKEPAPI Depends on how you look at things. Neeko being more of a training wheels version of Kennen can be good for casual players but ultimately not something worth maining and putting a lot of time into when doing the same thing on Kennen makes him ultimately become a better investment. Neeko is very replaceable as a mid laner whereas Kennen has an uncontested niche in top lane. In mid lane Neeko is pretty much Morgana mid 2.0: A mage that wants to hit a 3 second root to trap the enemy inside a circular multi-instance damage zone before going in with a delayed aoe stun nuke around her while there's also a shield to help with survivability.
Local kennen main, you kinda indirectly mentioned this but to be clear, I think the biggest issue withe kennen is his inability to clear waves but his primary damage ability in lane is a skill shot that's blocked by minions. Unlike most of the ranged top laners, kennens primary damage ability isn't point and click so he has to actually punish mistakes rather than just Q mindlessly or auto. He CAN auto and point and click with W and W passive but you'll be dealing what like.... 120 damage? Compared to someone like vlad who is super linear and brain dead it's just not as easy to pub stomp lane.
Imo Kennen has a similar problem as a lot of older champions. As it was said in the video, he is a very honest and transparent champion. And seeing some of the newest champions (e.g. Samira, Viego) makes me even more convinced that what I'm thinking might be true. I think the solution for that is rather simple: just hive him some kind of dash. It can't let him go through walls tho, that would be busted. My idea is to: 1. Reduce the dmg on his Q a bit and give it a small explosion on impact, something around Orianna's Q in terms of area (its name is Thundering Shuriken so it kinda makes sense too) 2. Remove the passive part of his W 3. Change his E to a short dash that would have extended range towards champions marked with his passive. It would also make his next auto attack deal some additional dmg and apply a stack of passive to the target. I thought that also its cooldown could get reduced each time you proc your passive on a champion. Obviously this whole thing would require a lot of changes in numbers but it actually seems like a decent idea to me (I swear I'm not biased lmao). If you read this little essay, please let me know what you think and have a nice day :)
change the W passive actually, if he uses his W on a marked target he can recast W to dash a number of units acording to the number of mark the target had. 1 mark = 200 units. if he stuns the target then the dash has a 600 unity range.
would be cool if kennen had a dash, or if he could go through walls with his e, kinda like kayn, but only 2 sec duration and maybe putting a cd on the walls like talons e could be good i think. I feel so useless and helpless when im playing kennen vs all these newer champs that have busted abilities. If u could go through walls u could at least ult in teamfights so ur useful
Alright here goes, complete amateur remake incoming. (Passive) Mark of the Storm, remains the same. (Q) now has 3 stacks, 1s recast cd. After every (Q) he now has 1 empowered auto attack applying MotS, replacing W passive. (W) now deals extra damage if it applies the 3:rd MotS or if the target has recently been stunned by you. If the target does not have a MotS but have recently been stunned by you (W) will hit the target and apply MotS. (E) now has increased movement speed and duration, the duration now extends for every enemy champion hit. It now has a Rek'sai function as in you loose personal vision, however when you hit an enemy champion or large monster they light up the surrounding area (like Skarners passive towers but smaller). The armor and magic resist from the ultimate now is instead applied when you've got (E) toggled, and for a few seconds after. (pretty sure that was the case back in the day) (R) now does not have a channel timer, you can activate it while running with or without (E) without delay. It also improves/strengthens with every enemy champion hit by (E) during it's duration, be it increased size, increased duration, increased amount of damage ticks, or just increased damage, or any combination of those. Kennen in my eyes have 2 standout moves, his Q-W passive-W activate combo, and his E-R initiate move, I wanted to keep those 2 moves similar but improve upon them, this setup would make the Q-Wp-Wa combo more smooth, while making you really feel like a "Electrical Current Yordle" during E and R. Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Early game, Kennen's ranged advantage lends itself well to a favorable laning phase because he can easily harass and cs simultaneously. That combined with his good base damage on abilities allows him to trade against the patterns of most meta top laners. Kennen is fairly gankable, so make sure you're not pushing in. If you are, your ultimate is a good get out of jail free card as it will stun pursuers as you scurry away. Early game is not when the splitpushing starts, after all. Mid game sees Kennen starting to assert himself in 1v1s through his Blade of the Ruined King and Frozen Mallet power spike, meaning that he can chase down tanks, outdamage them and outsustain them in any prolonged fight. This makes it impossible for them to lane against him, yielding two scenarios: either a collapse onto you, or a teamfight away from you. With Kennen’s main goal being splitpushing, it’s imperative that you don’t join fights immediately and try to signal to your team that it’s worth backing off if the teamfight situation is likely. Avoiding any collapse is key to splitpushing, and therefore investing in Control Wards and using your trinket constantly will help you determine when it is safe to push your advantage. Once more, there are plenty of ways to disengage, amplified by the Frozen Mallet passive and Blade of the Ruined King active. The late game is when Kennen’s splitpush truly comes online. With the damage reduction from Phantom Dancer and the new Death’s Dance, coupled with the attack speed and W passive available to Kennen, he should be able to 1v1 most any other champion, especially the enemy top laner who he is likely to be ahead of because of his smoother power curve and easier laning phase. In teamfights, should Kennen join them, he functions as a second AD carry with the ability to peel for himself and his team in unique ways, being a part of the backline and having an ultimate with great zone control for your entire backline. Using that optimally will be key to getting that last bit of necessary damage out there to win the fight. Kennen does not go in with this build, he is meant to be a peeling presence and AD carry, unlike his “go button” AP style which relies on Zhonya’s and his ultimate to completely dismantle enemy teams.
Concerning his playstyle, i think thats the players fault, not kennens. He has great and "free" poke on par with mages without needing to buy a mana item. His all in is amazing, but that doesnt mean you NEED to get the most value out of your game if it means leaving yourself open to be countered. Ive been playing him and never build protobelt because it doesnt make sense to all in for JUST the ult. His mobility is great, has good attack speed, and great ap scaling. Ive been having good games with him as a support using a burst ap build. I take barrier and exhaust as well. Maybe because im imune to the "meta mentality" ive been able to make him work for me. I see way too many players play literally 1 champ built the EXACT same way for like 30 games straight with sub par results. Like %45 win rate. And then i, with much fewer games under my belt have 30 games mid at like %76 wr, playing on hit neeko, or tanknivia, or full ap burst teemo, or soraka. Agaisnt akali mains, yasuo mains, sylas 1 tricks. Most gamers i know who have broken through diamond agree that if you get good at a champ, you can take it pretty much anywhere and win more than %50 of the time. I took elise top for a while and ended up at %50 wr exactly. Thats my opinion, stop tying yourself down to only what other people in your rank or one rank above you say. They also suck. If something doesnt work for you the first couple games, tweak it and try again. Stop bashing your head agaisnt the meta wall expecting it to give you freelo.
you can't proc phase rush in a teamfight , it takes too much time to proc before you get the MS to run towards them and you need to use Q + W to proc it which further lowers your burst if you get on them and you also need to be in auto range to proc it which is dangerous . and it is predictable still because the enemy knows that you'll run to them when you have the proc of phase rush and have time to cc you as you come in , same problem , unlike when you have dash.
as an avarage kennen enjoyer and being on the way to become an OTP kennen i would love to receive a "mark effect" we had on a failed lebalnc rework. ur Q marks target (enemy champ or minion) and if it gets hit with same ability (Q) then it damages nearby targets for small amount and marks them with his passive that combined with his W would waveclear. so u get a waveclear without wasting ur mobility (E), but also that waveclear wouldnt be as fast thus ballanced because u are forced to wait Q cooldown. this would ALSO allow kennen to be little bit more useful in teamfights where ur ULT is on CD or when u got denied by any type of CC. i personally dont think that adding some type of dashes on kennen would be great even if we take some dmg out. it just feels kinda wrong. u are going to be AoE assassin which isnt fair imo. however adding his Q addition mark ive mentioned above would allow him become a little bit more effective on AoE which he is right now but without making him assassin that has dash, fast mobility via E + reduced dmg while its active. (fckn yone clone but AP)
Allowing players to optimize fairness and counterplay out of competition is effectively allowing them to optimize competition out of competition. And it's a classic study in a very common game design problem. If you allow players to optimize the fun out of a game they will. Don't fix Canon, fix the rest of the game, or watch it die slowly. But we all know which one Riot's going to choose
I know this video is a couple years old, but I started climbing like crazy with kennen. It’s like something clicked. Or I’m just in the elo where people don’t know how to handle him, since he is hardly played, and my winning will plateau.
I dont understand why is a lack of dash a problem. U go phase rush, celerity, E + protobelt and ur faster then their dashes. And you can avoid getting peeled by flanking or just waiting for the right opportunity. Also, his Two playstyles actually synergize well. Because u have the potential to kite the enemy and then turn on him and his team. + u are dive-resistant. Kennen is one of greatest picks if u know how to.
I love Kennen and I love his lore but.....they dont match. In game he throws out zingers, is constantly on coke and is very excitable but in his lore he is calm and serene and gives advice? Sorry what? Either they need to pick a style or split him and focus his theme. For some fun on Kennen in lane however, take Nashors and focus his W. The bonus proc does really good damage and means you have an easy lightning stack on the opponent now. Much easier to stun when you can just E/W to stun and dont NEED the Q to land.
I sincerely think this video has some kind of curse: "Why no one play: *more than half of teh character he talk about* Proplay and riot: well, bout that... 80% pick or ban in proplay kai mate?
Finally my fucking main. The only thing I would say is more annoying then an enemy knocking you away is your own fucking team (gragus... janna... ect) gets really annoying when its like the 8th time in the game they ruin a teamfight cause "oh my ult is aoe to! we must combo!". Personally I would not be willing to take the damage hit cause I play an extremely weird kennen. I used to be an adc kennen main when hurrican let you get 3 w stacks allowing you to get the sterioid every 2 autos. Now you cant do that but I found an interesting build. going generic dark harvest rune page you can farm havest stacks on lots of melee champs allowing you to get 3-10 stacks before level 6 even starts. After that your engages keep snowballing in power. With them snowballing in power I focus on the attack speed on e and the nuke on w. Building riftmaker as a make shift blade of the ruined king and then buying a nashors and lichbane as core then boots deathcap and void as enders. This becomes a very lose lose build for the enemy cause now I am a constant dps threat but also engaging on me most the time is death. But due to the lack of protection in this build if you cant bully a darius every single time... dont go this build its risky af xD But if you can risk manage fuck me its entertaining 1 v 5ing insta deleting a back line and leaving maybe 2 targets alive on 1/2 hp which you auto tower in 3 seconds.
I have watched alot of your "why no one plays" videos lately. Great series really like it. But I really really dislike when you put the "Problem" Texts on the screen. I barely ever read them, and when I do, I always feel like its just way too much text for the info you are trying to convey (as you mention half of the text in what you say while it is on the screen). Apart from that, great editing. Keep up the good work :)
I'm playing kennen pretty much but I'm low elo player so it my opinion might be a bit diffrent by this People really often play only melee champions what's allow kennen to buy night harvester. When you still go with a lot of burst ap items such as horizon focus, rabadon's deathcap then you can simply one shot enemies with your ult and don't have to care about surviving their damage. Untill you're catching them not expectating you. Of course when they have champs like a vayne, tristana, alistar or lee sin they can really easily counter you. I like this champ because it teaches me what I can do in situations where something counters me. I don't know what kennen needs. These dashes sounds pretty well but then it could be too op. Like you said it's just too balanced so doesn't need changes in my opinion. When you're playing kennen phase rush makes you much stronger and i like to take taste of blood and ultimate hunter what's make me usefull more often. If someone want to discuss go ahead.
to his ult AP increase arm an mr, and last for 3 sec after. E, increase + ms to 3 sec, add sends out 2/2/2/4/4 additional balls of lightning, can jump to other balls each one time, when jump all the balls arc lightning between each other dealing dmg. AP increase ms, act duration an atk speed. make him mana champ. he is suppose to be an assassin, meaning surprise/ burst dmg
Imabe honest, i like using kenne and main him on wild rift cuz i dont got pc just laptop with touch pad. Idk if they actually make the champions the exact same in terms of their power with each ability and the scaling for the lvl ups for the abilities, and yeah, we can only use 6 items and not all the items and runes (i believe) are in the game yet. Plus, i play him on mid or barron lane. Which in this game the lanes swap or wutevr, idk that much difference betwenn the pc n mobile. I will say that i like him not just for his ult but cuz of the good amount of stuns and damage he can do. Nice bursts. I don't even use my flash into ult, the only time i used flash for/with my ult was when one of the enemies manage to escape cuz he was on the edge of my ult and was getting away, so i flashed and chased him and hope to kill him or slow him down until my teammates finish his team off. That was the only time i used flash for his ult (including dashes like the rocketbelt). To me he feels whatever in terms of early, mid, and late game. It just feels like it depends on the legend im facing, and who's the better player, and if jungler comes by. Cuz i know i cant take yasuo or ahri head on, i just have to play neutral against them and all that until i know i can take them cuz i poked them more than they did to me. If they're a bad player, then i just abuse that, and if they're a good player, i just respect them and try to make it stay as a neutral game until something happens. Idk if my opinion is valid cuz im playing the mobile version and all that, and dont know everything about the game overall, just know a little bit prior to the mobile release in america, and after that i learned more stuff that is pretty much in the mobile as of now. Anyways, ya. Again, in mobile there's 6 items and in pc there's 8 item slots. For me, i just go for all magic damage, and funny enough i actually do use nashor's tooth and lich bane, cuz it seems good for kennen who CAN rely on his auto atk and rely on empowered atk from lich bane since you always you're technically reliant on abilities. Just wanted to put out my opinion regardless it matters or not. Have a good day.
His E just needs to be a short cool down dash, or like storm spirit in Dora that lets you dash as long as you have resources, then move some power off W since I’d say his W isn’t super crucial to his identity. Ideally I’d love some major changes to his ult to be a little less binary, allow kennel players and enemies to do more with and against it , but that would probably get a lot of backlash
please just let his autos feel decent. i don't care that riot made sylas a 100x better champ than kennen when he steals ult, or that they made 2 versions of kennen that do his jobs better (gnar, neeko). just why does the tiny lightning ninja marksman mage feel so slow and clunky.
I am a Kennen Main myself, but I don't like toplane and I am not good enough to play against like an irelia or something. So I just took kennen midlane and made yasuos suffer. Nobody expects the insane damage and cc kennen can do with his full combo with ult and rocketbelt. I think it's sad, that kennen is so unpopular but at least that means nobody picks it and nobody bans it.
he's not bad, just needs a team that sinergies with him and he can be the star of the match. The thing is, you are talking like if league was a 1vs1 game or a 2vs2, and that's far from what it is. It's a team game and therefore you need to team up in order to win. A vanguard doing it's job and paying attention to the clamp it generates and you're done, back to looby with a win.
I mean nightharvester kennen is all I run ... Yeah I have to waste a flash but my R lands and a kill tipically follows ... Dont know why kennen is not played he is pretty solid
Actually I will try hexflash on him Im looking forward that this could fix his engage issues He should be able to bassicly blink over a wall or out of a bush like fiddle
When he gets to the last champion on lol.
“Why no one plays lol”
ROFL. I was more thinking that he might have to change the tittle for Champs that are more evenly played.
Also, it should be "Why Everyone Plays LoL"
Well that would prob be on the death of a game series xD
The day this video is released
My soul will be truly at peace.
*why everyone plays lol
Give him a katana and make him shout random japanese words and people will play him until the cows come home.
Attack: Senpai!
Attack: Kituite Kure! (Notice me!)
Hasagi!
Yamete!
Doesn't have to to be actual words too.
Just change the game to japanese problem solved
Kennen:*has an ultimate that scales insanely well with ap but requires you to play like a diver*
Sylas: it's free real estate
I pick kennen to counter Sylas
@@A1phaz0ne as a high elo sylas player, I think you should stop doing that.
@@egekazkayas8968 when you day high elo what elo do you mean
Dude u just made me choke on my burrito
@@A1phaz0ne I'll report you for griefing lmao
I think it’s funny that all of these basically end up being “they aren’t busted and therefore people don’t play them”
it's always one of 4 reasons
1- a very high skill floor
2- the kit isn't attractive
3- the visuals or skills are outdated
4- they aren't broken
And when they ARE busted, people complain and demand nerfs.
actually it’s more:
1 - too hard to play
2 - too inconsistent to play
3 - too underwhelming to play
4 - too weak early game to play
5 - too uncomfortable to play
So Sejuani falls under 5th
"If you ain't first, you're last!" - Sajam
I got a bloodmoon kennen skin shard and considering using him, this video shows up
he's great don't worry
One of my fav champs. He's amazing
He's super fun, go for it!
Didn't the last worlds champion team have a top laner who had kennen as a pocket pick?
A week before this video, I had just bought kennen and his infernal skin. So this is working out for all of us.
In current league, having flaws is now considered a bad game design
Just Like in real life
@@skinnylegend1542 what
Its so damn sad that every champ nowadays designed to have as broken mechanics as possible with no visible flaws. Only flaws they have is the lack of strenght they have on one part of the game.
@@strider8662 I really don't think I agree, new champs are often broken, but flawless? come on. lets say samira for example, yes she was broken, but she had a very obvious flaw: if you want to do any damage you physically have to all in at melee range, which is dangerous because you're a squishy adc who's vulnerable to burst damage. flaws aren't bad game design, its just that kennans flaws create a confused playstyle that players struggle to make work
@@oneringtorulethemagicarp7199 here is the thing with Samira, even after nerfs she is one of the tankiest and hardest to kill adcs in the game (alongside the ones like draven and lucian in stat-wise). And she has one thing that almost no other ADC has, burst damage. She is one of the few if not only adc with up front dps instead of long, consistent damage.
There is no other ADC that can deal that much damage without getting killed despite her terrible range (which means she doesnt even have to position herself at all, thats literally the most important ADC skill). And on top of that she is good early, mid and late game so she doesnt fall off either. Even her weaknesses are there only when she doesnt need it.
i play Kennen a lot. he's fun and he's a solid laner. The issue is. He's outdated. Kennen without ultimate is essentially useless. Esp since so many champs have gap closers now... You're just gonna get hopped on when ur ult is down
His original identity was being one of the most mobile champions in the game but now that’s a laughable claim, lightning rush is just so outclassed in terms of functionality. Would love to see a minor rework to play up the lightning fast mobile ninja design
I've been working with predator and reduced item cooldown runes these days, and he hasn't been bad at all for me in solo lanes. By far my safest pick, that still has a use late game.
Stun him duh
I use Kennen's ulti just to harrass in lane then i get such a huge lead that even with my low hp my dmg is way too high and if i play safe you cant kill me
Just feels horrible to play with in lane after they nerfed him because of klepto, then removed klepto entirely
oh and forgot to take the nerf back?
@@AlryFireBlade Nerfing the champion instead of the actual problem and then nerfing/removing the actual problem later on without undoing the nerfs is the Riot special by now
@@BrutalSalamander1 laughs in goredrinker
The Riot games special, nerf aatrox, kill goredrinker, HARD NERF amumu, remove sunfire from the fucking game, nerf olaf, nerf goredrinker.
Let's be honest, Klepto was NOT a healthy rune...
For the first half it almost sounds like you’re talking about neeko too
Neeko's snare is soo long that she has more than enough time to get close.
That's why neeko gets a shield on her ult
I really love Kennen. My biggest problem is just that he has way too much counterplay and also just feels so weak in laning phase. His potential in the lategame is completely crazy but it can be quite difficult to get there. I think if his laning phase was re designed into a midlane champion he would be way more fun to play
JUST ADMIT IT
DAMMIT
YOU MAIN CHAMPS LIKE GAYSUO AND GAYREN
JUST ADMIT IT
His e used to give him the armour and mr that are on his ult now, making getting close up without dying much easier
His e used to make him almost invincible. If I remember correctly it made him untargetable.
@Nicholas Lu I'll double check, cuz I'm talking about way back when he was new.
someone picking Kennen immediately makes me think ''ok I'm playing sylas''
My first thought is "sylas" whenever I see a malphite top LOL
Kennen is always a swing champ. Sometimes they're great. Sometimes they're awful. No in between.
Sounds like yasuo
@@VarsVerum Yasuo is more like awful at first, then great later on
Sounds like tristana
It's called balance, something people don't see these days. I mean Zilean and Anivia are good examples balanced since they don't get played in competitive that often and still playable in SoloQ. Also their kits maybe outdated but still manage to do better than than most other champions.
Sounds like yi
YES THEY MAKE SHURIKENS THIS SMALL
The real reason nobody plays Kennen is that he had so many consecutive nerfs that made him feel like absolute shit to play. Everything from his last hitting to his damage was gutted the last ~3 years.
Everyone was playing kennen in wild rift before his nerf
TRUE
His still pretty good though
Wild Rift does not count... it's just a mobile Game.
@@AlryFireBlade
Dude, stop smoking
He's still blows up my team whenever he drops by so at least there's that
His E used to give bonus armor and I think magic resistance, they need to put that back and give him slightly better health per level.
yeah it used to. What's it give now.... ATTACK SPEED ON A MAGE?!?!
They moved it to his ult
@@MerlinCross13 actually, attack speed makes sense, because that procs his w passive, which applies extra on hit ap damage, and a mark of the storm. Kennen's abilities mark the enemies, and 3 marks stun them, so if he has that on his auto attack, then he can either do that combo afar without his e, or without his q to make it undodgeable. That why people build attack speed on him. That extra ability is really helpful in the leaning phase, and for ganking. (gosh, I sound like a pro player, who defends every idiocy in game design)
why? no waveclear, no wave management, no tank, no mobility so after R no way out
Okay. How did you watch the video an hour before it came out?!
@@VarsVerum I'm a main kennen 2 million OTP, it's just my experience
@@AgarioSplitrunner So I take it my research is sound then XD
he does have some good wave management with his ew, but the thing is he just doesn't have anything to actually get into the backline, meanwhile Vlad can just ult on you, hold his period blood down and turn into blood spraying your team to get a penta thanks to the added movement speed he gets from phase rush, but Kennen can't just turn untargettable and thus, feels bad.
I personally love the explosive duality of champions like Kennen, and here's why:
1 - As both a mage and assassin main, champs like him are the only ones that allow you to enjoy both the long range safe neutral game of a mage _and_ the explosive all-in of an assassin.
2 - The duality of his kit makes room for a certain trickster mindset when playing, and there's nothing better than out of the blue just suddenly exploding the face of that pesky other player that spent half the laning phase disrespecting you.
All in all the Kennen archetype is a hard one to find and removing that duality for a more "intuitive" mainstream playstyle would leave a lot of people without anywhere to go, I think.
Champs like Kennen don't need to be super popular, they just need to be there for the dedicated few that love them in a way they just can't love anyone else.
Maybe give him a blink tho, take Alice from Mobile Legends who has lissandra blink (ik mobile moba but please stick with me)
Basically, league players don't like characters that can't snowball at 10 minutes
True
People dont like champs that can't one v 5, looks cool, and a popular streamer plays
I don't even think it's necessarily that, since people are playing tanks that have been resurged. I think his biggest issue is itemization. The only time you can vary your build up is 4+ items in most matchups, so if his core 3 items aren't good then he just doesn't feel good to play. I feel like he's similar to ekko in that way. Ekko will be dropped from the face of the earth until protobelt gets buffed. Then ekko is pick or ban and while Kennen isn't to that extreme anymore, he definitely used to be.
Laughs in singed
But without items most suck unless they have a slow or immobilized effect
Looks at title
Me, a Wild Rift player who sees Kennen at least three times a day: 👁👄👁
Same lol, I was so confused when I saw his post. God he was broken at launch
Literal cancer when he came out, the numbers were way too much.
lmao their bot and midlane can feed but kennen can come down at 4 minutes and get a triple, quadra, even a penta
I'm curious, why would you play the phone game instead? Just tired of long matches and willing to sacrifice controls?
@@Ericnorify they probably don’t have a computer to play lol or something
Def an underrated champion, I usually play him mid rather than top simply because of how unrewarding it is to lane with him. Mid allows you to roam and look for 2v2s and 3v3s whenever the lane is boring and you can go electrocute and ignite to threaten kills and boost his damage. his playstyle doesn't really change since you're always looking for all-ins and teamfights in the midlane and you can potentially hard carry and snowball the lane. Playing him top is VERY different than playing him mid, most of the time you have to either play aery and poke or play phase rush and look for tp plays with your ult.
“Half of all why no one plays champs are in top lane” wow it’s almost like top is an irrelevant role or something
hmm, so he's considered weak beacause.... he's balanced.... oh well it's league after all, it makes sense people wouldn't wanna play something that's not broken
well when every other champ is broken as fuck a balanced champ of course will look weak as fuck
In a game where so many champs have somthing ,,op" in his kit... why should the majority of players play a champ that is just balanced.
I mean, a lot of champs are pretty balanced, they are just focused towards a point, a great example is kass, you need to abuse kass bad early game to beat him
Why play Kennen when Malp , Amumu, Neeko (barely) can do the same thing but easier?
With 150+ champs you cant make every champion good
I have kennen as a backup if my irelia gets picked or banned I personally really enjoy his playstyle I do think he can definitly get a buff csing is quite weird and you have to put all ur abilities on cd to stun someone wich makes the stun fairly useless as you can’t really follow up with such bad autoattacks
Kennen into Irelia?
That’s a terrible matchup for Kennen
@@Dingdong2730 no, if my irelia gets banned I main Irelia
@@AnimagusPlays you said pick or ban
@@AnimagusPlays When you say picked I assume its because the other toplaner picks her, not your own midlaner.
Kennen's worst matchups are Irelia and Camille
@@Dingdong2730 his comment was not rocket science..lmao
I love this series! I've played this game for years now and have tried all the champs and you do a great job of putting words as to why these champs feel bad/weird to me. I can just point people to your videos to help them understand why a champ feels weird to them.
remember kids NEVER ARAM IN MID when you play kennen
This video didnt age well (atleast when watching pros).
I feel like fe three houses music fits so well in these types of videos.
He's supposed to be like, speedy, electric, surge, etc. Literally make his ultimate like Pikachu's final smash where he just blinks around untargettable shocking enemies. But I guess thats just master Yi's Q on an ult lol
Old fiora ult
Just change his E to work like Samira's E. Instant top tier again
Tried to be a Kennen main when I started playing years ago. He’s still my favorite champ but good god can I just not be fucked to play him often, if at all.
Give Zeus his stun ba- wrong game.
give zeus his sound effect back. his E and Ult sound stupid
@Binh Phuong Nguyen Smite
@@zhee1236 HotS
They give him his stun back and people will never play joust again because he's so jank in that game mode
Just make it so he doesn't have to go in WITH the ult but let it be a storm cloud that he can shoot into a direction. The further he aims it, the faster it goes but if he aims it closer it also moves slower. (Imagine it being aimed like the hecarim ult). At 3 stacks the enemy get stunned but they can try to move out of that big aoe before it reaches that amount to dodge it. The speed of the cloud also influences the chance to hit the enemys with all 3 stacks. Allows for counterplay. Then give him movementspeed inside of that aoe but no dmg buff. He can then use it as a way to get behind the enemy line or in a pinch to get away.
Fixed.
Neeko's release completely killed Kennen's career imo, shes kennen but with a better engage and a shield on her ult, plus everything is instant, i switched to neeko top from kennen and havent looked back since.
Watching T1 picking kennen literally every time and beating HLE top laner picks and then coming here ... I guess most people should give kennen a chance
He just needs a rework, keep the ult and the stun passive, but the rest of the kit needs revamp. He’s a ninja who doesn’t feel very ninjay... he need more on the lightning rush like a blink or dash (ninja like). His q feels very bland. And the W feels like a chore to manage. It might even be cool to be a ranged when far and melee when close champ. TLDR... Rework my champ please :,(
Well that Was kinda badly researched, a lot of flaws from kennen could be applied to neeko, her ult also Puts her into danger and contradicts her nature as a frail Ranged champ, it also need external sources of engage
1) better and safer wave clear by means of his q discharging stored electricity upon impact and applying his passive
2) better mobility maybe a dash with two charges
Would love to see lightning rush made into a dash like Two charges, maybe a little longer range than Arhis ult. Or a short range dash that refreshes each time you proc mark of the storm
5:15 This is also straight up wrong. His E doubles your speed, it's incredibly easy to engage.
This guy has 0 clue.
Kennen is the first champion I bought with my first 6300IP back in season 1. Still my main.
His vanilla skin model scares me...
I think they should revert the armor and mr he gets on his R back to his E. Most of the time when you R, you're in hourglass.
how about he just gets a small shield ish like mostly every aoe ult (nunu/neeko plus maybe a few others)
Problem is that Kennens E is the toxic part of his kit, adding more to it will just make Kennen feel even worse to play against in toplane
@@Shyama7015 but like I said he’s most likely going to be in hourglass so it’s not the best either
@@Dingdong2730 It's part of what makes him still useable lmao, until they buff something else he kind of relies on it too
@@bringanotebook28 You're right, but Kennen in the right hands is a very frustrating champ to deal with for melee champs, especially those without dashes or only 1 dash and no cc. You can really see how weak Kennen is if he is played into something that can get to him and lock him down for just 0.5 second, thinking of stuff like Camille, Irelia, Yone and Sylas, those champs actually just demolish him and just farm him for kills, while champs like Illaoi, Urgot, Darius etc. cant play lane against a good Kennen.
Thats what I mean by his E being toxic, because for some champs, it makes the lane super uninteractive, while for others its irrelevant.
This video explains very well why Kennen is an amazing support. Let me expound: Botlane frequently consists of two squishy champs. And at least always one. And he is... very good at dealing with those. While he is good with poking and can be good with cc. The real power comes in these two traits: Combining hexflash with his ult on bot makes it near impossible for their ADC to escape. And his presence at dragon is very valuable. Because he is so powerful in teamfights. He does phenomenally well in the support role. You should be able to make a large amount of $$ from your poking and get a good number of kills early with flash ult, or hexflash ult. Because of that, I never have to worry about getting rocketbelt. But I go straight into night harvester. Which makes a massive difference in damage. Just ban Leona if you go support.
i like you
YES. Im actually testing Kennen sup rn and im so hyped!
No need to farm cs means more time to poke with endless AAs Qs and Ws. And then he has crazy mobility to kite out enemy sup. And then he has CC which is sorta easy to proc and is extremely useful to create kill angles or just disengage. I also like to take exhaust because it turns off one enemys damage early on in order for you to live or slows another low hp enemy to run them down. And then rocketbelt and level 6 come in... so mobility is even higher while cc is even more disguisting for enemies. Gank potential is really good too because of free Es with no cd and no mana requirement. You can basically go mid then just chunk opp midlaner and get back to botlane in a matter of seconds.
And as a support you can and you should choose those cheaper utility AP items like rocketbelt or even rylais. His damage with these items is still fine because supports arent really about damaging but about peeling and providing utility things to a teammates who damage instead of you and that gained utility helps you to shine
Problem number 1 reminds me of neeko and morgana
"say the line bart"
"ranged top laner bad"
"YAAAAAAAAYY"
I literally play EVERY character on why no one plays….
Because of his whack autoattack animation
T R U E
i have mained kennen since season 3 and i think im the only person in the whole world to do so
oh yeah? no one expects darius jungle ganks
Rek'sai doesn't show up very much, maybe make another video about her?
11:40 So that's why people play Seraphine unironically.
As a Seraphine main, I have been unsuccessful in finding a support that is more fun to play than the starry-eyed songstress. People knock her, but that usually means they haven't tried her.
@@OhKeiSyd We're not talking about gameplay here.
what if Riot would rework kennen E to instead being a movement speed buff , to turn it into 2 small fast dashes with 2 charges, so he actually feels like he'a lightning ball by teleporting around instead of being just faster. this way his mobility problem would be solved for the most part
I was just thinking the exact same thing would make him so much better!!
@@viperdragon35lol6 yea, it just dosent feel right for his E to be a movement speed buff. im thinking a smaller version of Storm Spirit Ult from dota 2 where you can teleport around but with 2 charges and an ok distance and speed.
Kennen sounds like an ADC character forced into top lane...
God, as someone who played off-role gods in SMITE, I want to try all these Ranged top laners as ADCs and just experiment.
Bro just discovered this channel and have been binging these. I just have to say I LOVE THE FIRE EMBLEM MUSIC. It actually is what got me to sub one of my favorite games of recent time.
Can you do a why no one plays jayce?? I think hes pretty good rn but no one knows he even is a champ ;(
in bronze they usually don't play skillcapped champs (akali aphelios elise irelia jayce katarina leblanc nidalee ryze rengar senna syndra sylas viego vladimir yasuo zac)
He tried to solo Baron with basics...
While Kennen is very mediocre in Summoners Rift he's pretty good in wild rift tbh
As a Kennen main I found this not only a very fair analysis, but extremely insightful. Very well done! I agree with what some have said, give him even more armor and/or magic resist during his ult. A dash would be fine too, but shouldn't decrease the damage output. As the video states, Kennen is extremely fair, so he shouldnt take a nerf just to get back to the level of all the broken meta champs.
I really wish Kennen was better suited as a mid laner but one problem I’ve found the most is his lack of wave clear. I’d have to run ingenious Hunter with protobelt just to help clear waves. I was thinking of maybe giving his Q hit a sorta aoe effect when it hits a target, a bit like Lissandra Q. It’d deal significantly less damage but it’ll help getting his stacks on minions (or champion) without using his E
Talking so much about kennen ult without talking about the most similar, neeko ult. Although it is kinda better cus of her passive
Its not just her ult. Both have a stun an empowered aa and an ability that makes them faster. Neeko is just kennen but more modern.
@@rayian536 yea and better all around, she gets ms from w (although not nearly as fast as kennen). aoe stun with e, like kennen but kennen has to stack passive, and ranged dmg ability thats also aoe, and kennens just single target. Just a better kennen
@@DONSMOKEPAPI Not really. Kennen remains a staple in proplay whereas Neeko is considered a dead champion. He has better overall kite/escape potential, energy instead of mana, his ult is stronger than hers and his kit gimmick isn't reliant on the enemy not paying attention. Neeko can do easier soloQ plays where people often don't pay attention but ultimately she has lower skill floor and thus lower payoff and overall potential in the long run.
@@BrutalSalamander1 i agree with u, but i didnt take proplay into consideration in my comment, i was just talking about daily, regular people playing. I also think kennens ult is better since he doesnt have to charge it for a second like neeko has to, he insta ults. I also think his e is more effective than neekos cloning, but in day to day league for regulars neeko is much better than kennen.
@@DONSMOKEPAPI Depends on how you look at things. Neeko being more of a training wheels version of Kennen can be good for casual players but ultimately not something worth maining and putting a lot of time into when doing the same thing on Kennen makes him ultimately become a better investment. Neeko is very replaceable as a mid laner whereas Kennen has an uncontested niche in top lane.
In mid lane Neeko is pretty much Morgana mid 2.0: A mage that wants to hit a 3 second root to trap the enemy inside a circular multi-instance damage zone before going in with a delayed aoe stun nuke around her while there's also a shield to help with survivability.
Local kennen main, you kinda indirectly mentioned this but to be clear, I think the biggest issue withe kennen is his inability to clear waves but his primary damage ability in lane is a skill shot that's blocked by minions. Unlike most of the ranged top laners, kennens primary damage ability isn't point and click so he has to actually punish mistakes rather than just Q mindlessly or auto. He CAN auto and point and click with W and W passive but you'll be dealing what like.... 120 damage? Compared to someone like vlad who is super linear and brain dead it's just not as easy to pub stomp lane.
Give him more resistances and defenses
Imo Kennen has a similar problem as a lot of older champions. As it was said in the video, he is a very honest and transparent champion. And seeing some of the newest champions (e.g. Samira, Viego) makes me even more convinced that what I'm thinking might be true.
I think the solution for that is rather simple: just hive him some kind of dash. It can't let him go through walls tho, that would be busted.
My idea is to:
1. Reduce the dmg on his Q a bit and give it a small explosion on impact, something around Orianna's Q in terms of area (its name is Thundering Shuriken so it kinda makes sense too)
2. Remove the passive part of his W
3. Change his E to a short dash that would have extended range towards champions marked with his passive. It would also make his next auto attack deal some additional dmg and apply a stack of passive to the target. I thought that also its cooldown could get reduced each time you proc your passive on a champion.
Obviously this whole thing would require a lot of changes in numbers but it actually seems like a decent idea to me (I swear I'm not biased lmao).
If you read this little essay, please let me know what you think and have a nice day :)
change the W passive actually, if he uses his W on a marked target he can recast W to dash a number of units acording to the number of mark the target had.
1 mark = 200 units.
if he stuns the target then the dash has a 600 unity range.
would be cool if kennen had a dash, or if he could go through walls with his e, kinda like kayn, but only 2 sec duration and maybe putting a cd on the walls like talons e could be good i think. I feel so useless and helpless when im playing kennen vs all these newer champs that have busted abilities. If u could go through walls u could at least ult in teamfights so ur useful
Well this video didn't age well
I think it would be a good idea to give him bonus movement speed towards champions with stacks of his passive during his E.
Vampire Kennen: Hail of Blades, cheap shot, eyeball, ravenous. cut down and alacrity. attack speed. mr and armour.
Shieldbow, bloodthirster, berserker's grieves, sanguine blade, bork, phantom dancer. gg
Max W gives 100% bonus AD.
why not use the original art for the champions instead of skins ... i think that provides better clarity, love your vids btw ...well put together
Its because he looks too much like Teemo, people would rather just play Simple Teemo than complicated Kennen.
Alright here goes, complete amateur remake incoming.
(Passive) Mark of the Storm, remains the same.
(Q) now has 3 stacks, 1s recast cd.
After every (Q) he now has 1 empowered auto attack applying MotS, replacing W passive.
(W) now deals extra damage if it applies the 3:rd MotS or if the target has recently been stunned by you.
If the target does not have a MotS but have recently been stunned by you (W) will hit the target and apply MotS.
(E) now has increased movement speed and duration, the duration now extends for every enemy champion hit.
It now has a Rek'sai function as in you loose personal vision, however when you hit an enemy champion or large monster they light up the surrounding area (like Skarners passive towers but smaller).
The armor and magic resist from the ultimate now is instead applied when you've got (E) toggled, and for a few seconds after. (pretty sure that was the case back in the day)
(R) now does not have a channel timer, you can activate it while running with or without (E) without delay.
It also improves/strengthens with every enemy champion hit by (E) during it's duration, be it increased size, increased duration, increased amount of damage ticks, or just increased damage, or any combination of those.
Kennen in my eyes have 2 standout moves, his Q-W passive-W activate combo, and his E-R initiate move, I wanted to keep those 2 moves similar but improve upon them, this setup would make the Q-Wp-Wa combo more smooth, while making you really feel like a "Electrical Current Yordle" during E and R.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Early game, Kennen's ranged advantage lends itself well to a favorable laning phase because he can easily harass and cs simultaneously. That combined with his good base damage on abilities allows him to trade against the patterns of most meta top laners. Kennen is fairly gankable, so make sure you're not pushing in. If you are, your ultimate is a good get out of jail free card as it will stun pursuers as you scurry away. Early game is not when the splitpushing starts, after all.
Mid game sees Kennen starting to assert himself in 1v1s through his Blade of the Ruined King and Frozen Mallet power spike, meaning that he can chase down tanks, outdamage them and outsustain them in any prolonged fight. This makes it impossible for them to lane against him, yielding two scenarios: either a collapse onto you, or a teamfight away from you. With Kennen’s main goal being splitpushing, it’s imperative that you don’t join fights immediately and try to signal to your team that it’s worth backing off if the teamfight situation is likely. Avoiding any collapse is key to splitpushing, and therefore investing in Control Wards and using your trinket constantly will help you determine when it is safe to push your advantage. Once more, there are plenty of ways to disengage, amplified by the Frozen Mallet passive and Blade of the Ruined King active.
The late game is when Kennen’s splitpush truly comes online. With the damage reduction from Phantom Dancer and the new Death’s Dance, coupled with the attack speed and W passive available to Kennen, he should be able to 1v1 most any other champion, especially the enemy top laner who he is likely to be ahead of because of his smoother power curve and easier laning phase. In teamfights, should Kennen join them, he functions as a second AD carry with the ability to peel for himself and his team in unique ways, being a part of the backline and having an ultimate with great zone control for your entire backline. Using that optimally will be key to getting that last bit of necessary damage out there to win the fight. Kennen does not go in with this build, he is meant to be a peeling presence and AD carry, unlike his “go button” AP style which relies on Zhonya’s and his ultimate to completely dismantle enemy teams.
Is this a season 10 guide for AD kennan?
@@oscarputz3121 most likely because it talks about blade of the ruined king active.
Dude frozen mallet dosent even exist anymore
I guess he would build Serylda's grudge nowadays?
Concerning his playstyle, i think thats the players fault, not kennens. He has great and "free" poke on par with mages without needing to buy a mana item. His all in is amazing, but that doesnt mean you NEED to get the most value out of your game if it means leaving yourself open to be countered. Ive been playing him and never build protobelt because it doesnt make sense to all in for JUST the ult. His mobility is great, has good attack speed, and great ap scaling. Ive been having good games with him as a support using a burst ap build. I take barrier and exhaust as well. Maybe because im imune to the "meta mentality" ive been able to make him work for me. I see way too many players play literally 1 champ built the EXACT same way for like 30 games straight with sub par results. Like %45 win rate. And then i, with much fewer games under my belt have 30 games mid at like %76 wr, playing on hit neeko, or tanknivia, or full ap burst teemo, or soraka. Agaisnt akali mains, yasuo mains, sylas 1 tricks. Most gamers i know who have broken through diamond agree that if you get good at a champ, you can take it pretty much anywhere and win more than %50 of the time. I took elise top for a while and ended up at %50 wr exactly. Thats my opinion, stop tying yourself down to only what other people in your rank or one rank above you say. They also suck. If something doesnt work for you the first couple games, tweak it and try again. Stop bashing your head agaisnt the meta wall expecting it to give you freelo.
Playing LOR he is superoverpowerd game broken atm..... Thanks for explaining why.
Phase Rush is kennen's best rune and fixes his problems.
you can't proc phase rush in a teamfight , it takes too much time to proc before you get the MS to run towards them and you need to use Q + W to proc it which further lowers your burst if you get on them and you also need to be in auto range to proc it which is dangerous . and it is predictable still because the enemy knows that you'll run to them when you have the proc of phase rush and have time to cc you as you come in , same problem , unlike when you have dash.
as an avarage kennen enjoyer and being on the way to become an OTP kennen i would love to receive a "mark effect" we had on a failed lebalnc rework. ur Q marks target (enemy champ or minion) and if it gets hit with same ability (Q) then it damages nearby targets for small amount and marks them with his passive that combined with his W would waveclear. so u get a waveclear without wasting ur mobility (E), but also that waveclear wouldnt be as fast thus ballanced because u are forced to wait Q cooldown. this would ALSO allow kennen to be little bit more useful in teamfights where ur ULT is on CD or when u got denied by any type of CC. i personally dont think that adding some type of dashes on kennen would be great even if we take some dmg out. it just feels kinda wrong. u are going to be AoE assassin which isnt fair imo. however adding his Q addition mark ive mentioned above would allow him become a little bit more effective on AoE which he is right now but without making him assassin that has dash, fast mobility via E + reduced dmg while its active. (fckn yone clone but AP)
Allowing players to optimize fairness and counterplay out of competition is effectively allowing them to optimize competition out of competition. And it's a classic study in a very common game design problem. If you allow players to optimize the fun out of a game they will.
Don't fix Canon, fix the rest of the game, or watch it die slowly. But we all know which one Riot's going to choose
I know this video is a couple years old, but I started climbing like crazy with kennen. It’s like something clicked. Or I’m just in the elo where people don’t know how to handle him, since he is hardly played, and my winning will plateau.
I dont understand why is a lack of dash a problem. U go phase rush, celerity, E + protobelt and ur faster then their dashes. And you can avoid getting peeled by flanking or just waiting for the right opportunity. Also, his Two playstyles actually synergize well. Because u have the potential to kite the enemy and then turn on him and his team. + u are dive-resistant. Kennen is one of greatest picks if u know how to.
I love Kennen and I love his lore but.....they dont match. In game he throws out zingers, is constantly on coke and is very excitable but in his lore he is calm and serene and gives advice? Sorry what? Either they need to pick a style or split him and focus his theme.
For some fun on Kennen in lane however, take Nashors and focus his W. The bonus proc does really good damage and means you have an easy lightning stack on the opponent now. Much easier to stun when you can just E/W to stun and dont NEED the Q to land.
I sincerely think this video has some kind of curse:
"Why no one play: *more than half of teh character he talk about*
Proplay and riot: well, bout that... 80% pick or ban in proplay kai mate?
Finally my fucking main. The only thing I would say is more annoying then an enemy knocking you away is your own fucking team (gragus... janna... ect) gets really annoying when its like the 8th time in the game they ruin a teamfight cause "oh my ult is aoe to! we must combo!". Personally I would not be willing to take the damage hit cause I play an extremely weird kennen. I used to be an adc kennen main when hurrican let you get 3 w stacks allowing you to get the sterioid every 2 autos. Now you cant do that but I found an interesting build. going generic dark harvest rune page you can farm havest stacks on lots of melee champs allowing you to get 3-10 stacks before level 6 even starts. After that your engages keep snowballing in power. With them snowballing in power I focus on the attack speed on e and the nuke on w. Building riftmaker as a make shift blade of the ruined king and then buying a nashors and lichbane as core then boots deathcap and void as enders. This becomes a very lose lose build for the enemy cause now I am a constant dps threat but also engaging on me most the time is death. But due to the lack of protection in this build if you cant bully a darius every single time... dont go this build its risky af xD But if you can risk manage fuck me its entertaining 1 v 5ing insta deleting a back line and leaving maybe 2 targets alive on 1/2 hp which you auto tower in 3 seconds.
I have watched alot of your "why no one plays" videos lately. Great series really like it. But I really really dislike when you put the "Problem" Texts on the screen. I barely ever read them, and when I do, I always feel like its just way too much text for the info you are trying to convey (as you mention half of the text in what you say while it is on the screen). Apart from that, great editing. Keep up the good work :)
I'm playing kennen pretty much but I'm low elo player so it my opinion might be a bit diffrent by this
People really often play only melee champions what's allow kennen to buy night harvester. When you still go with a lot of burst ap items such as horizon focus, rabadon's deathcap then you can simply one shot enemies with your ult and don't have to care about surviving their damage. Untill you're catching them not expectating you.
Of course when they have champs like a vayne, tristana, alistar or lee sin they can really easily counter you. I like this champ because it teaches me what I can do in situations where something counters me.
I don't know what kennen needs. These dashes sounds pretty well but then it could be too op. Like you said it's just too balanced so doesn't need changes in my opinion.
When you're playing kennen phase rush makes you much stronger and i like to take taste of blood and ultimate hunter what's make me usefull more often. If someone want to discuss go ahead.
to his ult AP increase arm an mr, and last for 3 sec after. E, increase + ms to 3 sec, add sends out 2/2/2/4/4 additional balls of lightning, can jump to other balls each one time, when jump all the balls arc lightning between each other dealing dmg. AP increase ms, act duration an atk speed. make him mana champ. he is suppose to be an assassin, meaning surprise/ burst dmg
Kennen Top: Play on-hit/AD and win lane, but be useless in team fights.
Play AP and be godmode in teamfights, but lose lane against everyone.
Imabe honest, i like using kenne and main him on wild rift cuz i dont got pc just laptop with touch pad. Idk if they actually make the champions the exact same in terms of their power with each ability and the scaling for the lvl ups for the abilities, and yeah, we can only use 6 items and not all the items and runes (i believe) are in the game yet. Plus, i play him on mid or barron lane. Which in this game the lanes swap or wutevr, idk that much difference betwenn the pc n mobile. I will say that i like him not just for his ult but cuz of the good amount of stuns and damage he can do. Nice bursts. I don't even use my flash into ult, the only time i used flash for/with my ult was when one of the enemies manage to escape cuz he was on the edge of my ult and was getting away, so i flashed and chased him and hope to kill him or slow him down until my teammates finish his team off. That was the only time i used flash for his ult (including dashes like the rocketbelt). To me he feels whatever in terms of early, mid, and late game. It just feels like it depends on the legend im facing, and who's the better player, and if jungler comes by. Cuz i know i cant take yasuo or ahri head on, i just have to play neutral against them and all that until i know i can take them cuz i poked them more than they did to me. If they're a bad player, then i just abuse that, and if they're a good player, i just respect them and try to make it stay as a neutral game until something happens. Idk if my opinion is valid cuz im playing the mobile version and all that, and dont know everything about the game overall, just know a little bit prior to the mobile release in america, and after that i learned more stuff that is pretty much in the mobile as of now. Anyways, ya. Again, in mobile there's 6 items and in pc there's 8 item slots. For me, i just go for all magic damage, and funny enough i actually do use nashor's tooth and lich bane, cuz it seems good for kennen who CAN rely on his auto atk and rely on empowered atk from lich bane since you always you're technically reliant on abilities. Just wanted to put out my opinion regardless it matters or not. Have a good day.
I hear the fire emblem 3 houses music, good taste my dood
GOD DAMIt I just started playing him. ( But in general I just feel in love with the champ and I love his entire kit)
His E just needs to be a short cool down dash, or like storm spirit in Dora that lets you dash as long as you have resources, then move some power off W since I’d say his W isn’t super crucial to his identity. Ideally I’d love some major changes to his ult to be a little less binary, allow kennel players and enemies to do more with and against it , but that would probably get a lot of backlash
Cause he a RAT! *I honestly don't mind this champion just a Trick2G reference
please just let his autos feel decent. i don't care that riot made sylas a 100x better champ than kennen when he steals ult, or that they made 2 versions of kennen that do his jobs better (gnar, neeko). just why does the tiny lightning ninja marksman mage feel so slow and clunky.
just want to say: if you haven't try this champ he is super fun, and in the right hands he can dominate. He get me from silver to almost plat(g1).
I am a Kennen Main myself, but I don't like toplane and I am not good enough to play against like an irelia or something. So I just took kennen midlane and made yasuos suffer. Nobody expects the insane damage and cc kennen can do with his full combo with ult and rocketbelt. I think it's sad, that kennen is so unpopular but at least that means nobody picks it and nobody bans it.
i like kennen's playstyle but the only reason i don't main him is that he looks ridiculous to me lmao
He is mid lane not top
Poke and 🏃♂️ simple it works
Perfectly time q
he's not bad, just needs a team that sinergies with him and he can be the star of the match. The thing is, you are talking like if league was a 1vs1 game or a 2vs2, and that's far from what it is. It's a team game and therefore you need to team up in order to win. A vanguard doing it's job and paying attention to the clamp it generates and you're done, back to looby with a win.
Wasn't ADC Kennen so powerful you saw it in quite a few tournaments back in the day? What ever happened to AD Kennen?
Just play hybrid kennen: bork, nashors tooth, deaths dance, wits end and riftmaker works well even in gold 2
Very few if any champions go from ranged to melee...
Jayce and Elise: Am I a joke to you?
I mean nightharvester kennen is all I run ... Yeah I have to waste a flash but my R lands and a kill tipically follows ... Dont know why kennen is not played he is pretty solid
Actually I will try hexflash on him
Im looking forward that this could fix his engage issues
He should be able to bassicly blink over a wall or out of a bush like fiddle