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  • @nicholasmarquez1977
    @nicholasmarquez1977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1308

    Someone doesn't like teemo. Jeez

    • @dzigayu4944
      @dzigayu4944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      (Everyone who plays this game): **Looks away**

    • @turtlesmeller2943
      @turtlesmeller2943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      thats most people

    • @virlym7345
      @virlym7345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Teemo always wins the psychological matchup, less so the lane matchup

    • @tobisans8989
      @tobisans8989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes I know him he’s me

    • @private8384
      @private8384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      If you like teemo you're a spawn of satan

  • @SoulDevoured
    @SoulDevoured 3 ปีที่แล้ว +949

    Kayle... The only champion nerfed so hard so early they put it in her lore. "It felt like something was sapping my strength." Lol

    • @aaronelm146
      @aaronelm146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      where is this lore

    • @SoulDevoured
      @SoulDevoured 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@aaronelm146 it was in the journal of justice. Right after a patch to buff Kayle.
      Volume 1 issue 23.

    • @leirea_
      @leirea_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im a new player in lol and after i buy kayle and play it i can see that she is weak at early and more down in late game other than champs

    • @theemperoryt9527
      @theemperoryt9527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      asol has entered the chat

    • @SoulDevoured
      @SoulDevoured 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theemperoryt9527 asol was released weak. It does coincide with his lore but afaik they never tried to nerf him and then give lore reasons for the nerf.

  • @polskacesarza5107
    @polskacesarza5107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1525

    as a kayle main this hits about every point besides your team flaming you for not having high champ damage on a 20 min game

    • @RandomBeardGuy
      @RandomBeardGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      The jungler blames you for feeding when he doesn't gank you for the whole 20 minutes even if you TH like a damn turtle and the enemy is overextending. Like wtf, you had one job jng did you mute my fucking pings!?!

    • @mxri2019
      @mxri2019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@RandomBeardGuy if I remember right jungler should never Gank weak lanes obviously if it’s a free kill then sure but there’s a lot of times when I’m jungling i find the top laner getting pissed off I’m not ganking when I am farming and already pinged I’m ganking mid. I don’t think it’s the jungler fault to be fair

    • @RandomBeardGuy
      @RandomBeardGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@mxri2019 oh i understand but here's the thing, i th when im up against a champ that can kill me easily such darius, urgot, fiora, and kled and all i do is farm my lane safely. Most if not all junglers ive been paired with dont help me at all. And then when they are near for a gank they just keep farming even if the enemy is overextending. Its not my fault if the enemy jungler releases herald on top lane at 15-20 minutes into the game
      I'm a fucking Kayle and i need to scale but i cant cause im being pressured at top lane, i don't and i stress this DON'T FEED. The enemy just has more cc than me and a jungler that might help them anytime i try to push my lane (which i will never do cause I'm bloody squishy)

    • @suckit4669
      @suckit4669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@RandomBeardGuy Damn, you just counted every champ besides kled that can't kill you if you're not a braindmg imbecile, stop thinking you're low elo because your jgl is bad.

    • @sympunny8636
      @sympunny8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@RandomBeardGuy Many of those champions you just mentioned, (particularly kled and darius) can 2vs1 really easily vs weak laners. And kayle is one of the weakest of them all, and not an easy lane to gank. She doesn't have much damage early, and only has one weak slow for cc. It is often very easy for the darius/kled to turn on the jungler and kill them, or just simply walk out while you weakly attack them. It's a really awkward situation, but kayle honestly isn't very easy to gank, even compared to other scaling champs such as veigar/senna, who both have hard cc, plus more damage early on. And then, even worse if the enemy jungler appears as well, to make it a 2vs2, you will lose that in almost all matchups. It's a very high risk play and as jungler particularly early on, you want to go for the easier/lower risk ganks, for example, ganking a malzahar who has ulti, or ganking a tris/naut botlane, easy hard cc, good damage, and excellent follow up. Kayle has none of those things.

  • @yurias6175
    @yurias6175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    imo her main gimmick is the "never surrender until outscale the enemy and turn the game" but that happens kinda rarely too the point where often either you loose too fast to scale or your team wins early without you having any contribution to it, and that can get very frustrating at times, so that might be a big part of it

    • @davguev
      @davguev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kayle main here. Indeed, never surrender gang o/

  • @Vlada97my
    @Vlada97my 3 ปีที่แล้ว +737

    The problom i have with kayle is that SHE DOESNT FEEL LIKE A CAHMPION UNTILL SHE GETS RANGE TO ATTACK. That feeling was worse when she used to gwt it on lv 11.

    • @purplereimu9701
      @purplereimu9701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      I like her just for that actually, the feeling of YOUR POWER RAISING AND RAISING UNTIL ALL YOUR ENEMIES ARE CRUSHED BY YOUR MIGHT AHAHAHAHAAHAH. Oh uh, sorry i got carried away

    • @sympunny8636
      @sympunny8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@purplereimu9701 true, but there are other champions like that with more exciting gameplay like veigar and senna. Both stack but far more actively, either by killing minions/hitting champs such as veigar or by collecting souls from dead minions/monsters/champs like senna. Kayle just needs to be in range for xp...and that's it. Plus both veigar and senna can still do a decent amount early/mid game, they just have some glaring weaknesses. Whereas kayle really struggles to do anything early/mid game, and can normally only get kills/turret plating if the laner majorly messes up. Her kit is also not the most exciting, veigar has skillshots plus a aoe cage stun, while senna has a global ulti and can become ghostlike with her allies. Kayle can auto attack. Her ulti has some interesting gameplay and that's about it, even when you're lvl 16 and op, the gameplay itself is not the most exciting compared to the vast majority of champs. Plus she's a scaling champion sitting in arguably the least impactful role. Often by the time you get your major powerspike the game is decided one way or another, and then the next game begins. Don't get me wrong, people should play who they enjoy, but kayle does feel underwhelming to me anyways.

    • @goldy741
      @goldy741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@purplereimu9701 I like her wings.

    • @azureflame125
      @azureflame125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      To this day I can't fathom why they needed to make her a melee champion during her early game. Her skills aren't even that good so you are basically dead weight till you hit level 6. And even then, you still have to wait till 11 to actually become a real threat. Quite honestly, I loved old Kayle so to me she is one of the worst reworked champions (followed by Volibear).

    • @nonameworm69
      @nonameworm69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like her meelee...

  • @Promozi
    @Promozi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    I picked up Kayle in preseason since she seemed relatively strong, i realized she is just the champ i love and i plan to keep playing her even if she bad after preseason :)

    • @FrostyPeppercorn
      @FrostyPeppercorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Thats a very good mentality
      Stick to what you love over whats op
      Kayle squad

    • @sublimcher2025
      @sublimcher2025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I totally agree and follow that 👍🏼

    • @Promozi
      @Promozi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i play shaco now :)

    • @FrostyPeppercorn
      @FrostyPeppercorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Promozi oh wow backstabbed

    • @Promozi
      @Promozi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FrostyPeppercorn haha

  • @tuongpham7609
    @tuongpham7609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Kayle's ulti doesnt last long when you use it, it lasts forever when an enemy use it.

    • @BreadOnHead
      @BreadOnHead 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      must be secret rito update

  • @rouge_grenade4824
    @rouge_grenade4824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +486

    I had picked Kayle when I first started out on league because I thought she was a healer like mercy
    oh how wrong i was..

    • @sliccthedestroyer1881
      @sliccthedestroyer1881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Teemo farmed me when I was a noob and learning a hard champ.

    • @diegorodriguez-fl5kp
      @diegorodriguez-fl5kp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I thought she was a guy

    • @MechaG
      @MechaG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Before or after the vgu?

    • @flintstonesoreal5199
      @flintstonesoreal5199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@sliccthedestroyer1881 i don't know why but i went garen (it was my first time) in rankeds and got a teemo as my enemy, lets say i was so afraid of him i litterally stayed under my own tower (im main support with intent to turn main top) just to avoid feeding him. In the end we won but not because of me XD. (he killed me 2 times only)

    • @hello-gx6oi
      @hello-gx6oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Umm yeah she has a heal ability
      But not a support

  • @mrgopnik5964
    @mrgopnik5964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +309

    “Magic damage ad carry” yeah, it’s those word combinations that made Riot change their name into marksman

    • @Aiveq
      @Aiveq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      nah its cuz carry implied whole team needs to carry that snowflake into late game to make it usefull. get a second mid/top champ instead for bot and end at 20 essentially playing 5v4 since opposing "marksman" is so useless at that time

    • @draketurtle4169
      @draketurtle4169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually they don’t even consider her a marksman in the shop- she is just a “support”.
      Yeah the shop is dumb.

    • @davguev
      @davguev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So... Corki?

  • @ilikecat5724
    @ilikecat5724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video did not age well

  • @alexandersalazar4736
    @alexandersalazar4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Nahhh... I miss the old Kayle. There's this times where I feel invincible. Now, you're just a late gamer dude when almost every game ends at 20 to 30 minutes.

    • @note3neo411
      @note3neo411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Old kayle was much more better at least for me

    • @alexandersalazar4736
      @alexandersalazar4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@note3neo411 yeah, she's just gonna run you down then you're health is missing and you're dead. I miss her.

    • @frogradar
      @frogradar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      she also didn't feel like she needed to late game win.
      New Kayle is wholly reliant on being level 16 and just... winning.
      Old Kayle had enough in her kit to farm, burst and attack the enemy enough so that she wasn't fucked early or late. the fact that her old E is just her level 16 auto now is ridiculous.

    • @davguev
      @davguev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frogradar You can start kicking some butts at level 6, no need to wait until level 16. Not only that, there are many melee champions that lose to at level 1 if you if you brought Ignite (good strategy against Irelia, for example), her passive is one of the strongest at that moment.

  • @kennethgrutas2277
    @kennethgrutas2277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    i just liked the holy angel aesthetic.

    • @messageinthebottle1673
      @messageinthebottle1673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same currently playing wild rift version (phone 📱 version) hoping 🙏 she comes into it.

    • @walidelmahi9828
      @walidelmahi9828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same just started playing her today for this exact reason, but god her early sucks really hard

    • @messageinthebottle1673
      @messageinthebottle1673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@walidelmahi9828 According to this video that's the point of her character angelic design, she becomes stronger and aesthetically more pleasing as she levels up.
      The point of her is to build her up she start very weak and then she becomes very strong late game.

    • @walidelmahi9828
      @walidelmahi9828 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@messageinthebottle1673 oh it makes more sense said like that, but still I think her early can still be buffed a bit because it feels really impossible to play

  • @davidkim9898
    @davidkim9898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    kaylemains checking in
    used to be riven main.
    but i'm 32yo now. my fingers and brain doesn't move as fast as they used to.

    • @VarsVerum
      @VarsVerum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Arthritis sets in THAT EARLY?!

    • @TiaguinhoMu
      @TiaguinhoMu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i think that what killed kayle was the cannon minion changes that came up a while ago. now they come double as fast at the 15 min mark, and then at the 20 min or 25 min mark they start coming on every wave. this changes accelerated games to finish a lot faster than they used to because when those marks are reached people start to be able to push to towers and destroy them more easily So games wont last long for her power spike to shine @@VarsVerum

    • @dylanflynn1895
      @dylanflynn1895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@VarsVerum I've had chronic arthritis since I was twelve, it varies person to person

    • @zzerxes
      @zzerxes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, but you can develop carpel tunnel syndrome at any age. Make sure you stretch and rotate your wrists often, because PC games REQUIRE pronated hands/arms/wrists due to Keyboard/Mouse form.

    • @dylanflynn1895
      @dylanflynn1895 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zzerxes what do you mean "nope"

  • @KindOldRaven
    @KindOldRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    04:29
    ''kicking names and taking ass''
    -Vars, 2021

  • @Rengarsus
    @Rengarsus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Laughs is kayle midlane main

    • @infinitedark6158
      @infinitedark6158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Kayle is still ineffective in mid lane due to all the assasins and mages, this weakness gets patched slightly once she gets to lv 6 but she is still subject to having a lower damage, her poke is also ineffective and her w’s are not sufficient to get away from damage after the last stages of early game

    • @trashymorrigan799
      @trashymorrigan799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh no why do you hate yourself

    • @f0xof907
      @f0xof907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I play kayle mid lane too, I stuck with her for a bit now and if you play aggressive without actually committing the enemy plays scared and you get a free laning phase and win like crazy

    • @polskacesarza5107
      @polskacesarza5107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah i play mid lane too

    • @polskacesarza5107
      @polskacesarza5107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@f0xof907 yeah bully them early and they wont come near you, oh how many times i was attacked by their jg

  • @Prebound_
    @Prebound_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    It's bizarre listening to you describe her weaknesses while watching someone play her masterfully.

    • @silentbyte196
      @silentbyte196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I personally feel he over exaggerated her weakness, From my experience she has as much carry potential as Yone.

  • @corlex4486
    @corlex4486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Yeah, as you said, her main focus in lane is keeping herself alive.. that's the problem. Even if you succeed, while that's great for you, it's never fun. If you lose lane, it's actual purgatory and if you win, it's still "not fun" because you're just surviving and scaling. The only way the first 20 minutes of the game even *can* get fun is if you get so far ahead that you can actually kill people and do things early on - in which case it is unfun for the enemy team as they will feel like the game is already lost since Kayle will simply scale and win.

    • @greendaybowser
      @greendaybowser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She can get big early if her jg helps her out or (in the case of mid Kayle) she roams to help allies.

    • @RandomBeardGuy
      @RandomBeardGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@greendaybowser "IF HER JUNGLE HELPS HER OUT" like wtf jng, the enemy is overextending and your topside and I'm pinging like hell and what do you do? Killing the damn scuttle!!!

    • @corlex4486
      @corlex4486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@greendaybowser Roaming is always risky because you're so weak early on. If you can ever farm properly, your enemy laner is doing something wrong. Lastly, only being able to gain an advantage through help from a jungler is pathetic and shouldn't be necessary.

    • @unknownherrscher
      @unknownherrscher 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i do kayle top but i somewhat love doing kayle support though, she's actually a very strong support and is very fun even in early game

    • @greendaybowser
      @greendaybowser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unknownherrscher its fun casually but I wouldn't bring it to ranked or anything.

  • @harrowingsmite2884
    @harrowingsmite2884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    As a Kayle main, I can attest to these problems. I personally play Kayle because she gives an Udyr or Jax vibe; she can do whatever she wants in terms of damage type, and with all these new items its not hard to do literally whatever you want anymore. Safe to say that my style is hybrid champs, therefore Kayle is at the top of my roster no matter what

  • @evanjamesDX
    @evanjamesDX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My one friend who plays Kayle disagrees.

  • @rid.cor3
    @rid.cor3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welp any one hoping for kayle vs morgana??

  • @zboobafett5984
    @zboobafett5984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video aged badly lol

  • @JaeshaunDT
    @JaeshaunDT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    i remember the first time i seen a kayle pop off back in season 2. we were pushing mid and got to their 3rd turret. my jaw dropped when she just started raining down death like it was no one's business.

    • @theleafsbloodyflash
      @theleafsbloodyflash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Man, seeing posts like this make me really miss old Kayle

    • @davguev
      @davguev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theleafsbloodyflash Sounds like something that could happen with this iteration of Kayle too.

  • @urosprodic137
    @urosprodic137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I play Kayle support with full lifesteal build its fun

  • @Kumjira
    @Kumjira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1651

    Kayle is basically a champ for mmo players

    • @cazimim3375
      @cazimim3375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why do u say that ?

    • @ohnononowhydidi344
      @ohnononowhydidi344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +321

      @@cazimim3375 mmo players tend to care more about endgame content than the grind to max level

    • @VaIinar
      @VaIinar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      @@ohnononowhydidi344 i love how god damn accurate you are lmao

    • @joaovitorcamargo7165
      @joaovitorcamargo7165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lmao that makes so much sense dude

    • @EdhellenCuar
      @EdhellenCuar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lmfao this is so true

  • @johnthesailor2933
    @johnthesailor2933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That nunu had some awful turret dives😆

  • @shironeko5183
    @shironeko5183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "Fuck you" when he showed a picture of Teemo. x)

  • @Definitely_Someone
    @Definitely_Someone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You think Kayle isnt played? When was the last time you saw Skarner?

  • @despair1091
    @despair1091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    kayle is a high risk and high reward type champion

    • @samuellinn
      @samuellinn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Dimitri kayle is a high and high reward type champion

    • @nightcorechords5705
      @nightcorechords5705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More like high risk and average reward since she is no mora than adc in late game

    • @leonardojaxon
      @leonardojaxon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nightcorechords5705 i dont think you ever met a REAL kayle. Late game she 1v5

    • @marvinzimmerman1878
      @marvinzimmerman1878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nightcorechords5705 an adc that has the same range as a caitlyn late game, who goes invincible for 3 seconds who can buy a zhonyas hourglass and that has true damage? Yeah sure just an adc

    • @nightcorechords5705
      @nightcorechords5705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marvinzimmerman1878 Caitlyn's range is 650, Kayle has 575 at level 16. Zhonya doesn't help that much and there are much better options. And yes, she used to go 1v5 when she had true damage waves but that was removed.

  • @radiobrain169
    @radiobrain169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Oh boy I love literally afking until 6 and then perma farming until 11 because a cannon minion can out dps me. What a great design riot

    • @jasperhilliard6289
      @jasperhilliard6289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      its actually kinda fun tho i like it

    • @cassu6
      @cassu6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      lol what? sure until lvl 6 you are useless but after that you can already start fucking shit up

    • @QueenFiggy
      @QueenFiggy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo, got m7 by taking cull and just freezing the wave just out my turret. Kayle with 100 cs against a darius with 50 cs is scary pre-11

    • @silentbyte196
      @silentbyte196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a gross exaggeration.

    • @UncleDaniel
      @UncleDaniel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You still die vs yi lategame

  • @skaliev6032
    @skaliev6032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    complete BS

  • @mrosef007
    @mrosef007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OTP Kayle here aswell since mid s9 early s10.
    I love your vid, i was like agreeing with every point. Especially about the personnality aspect of her. I do love her because she needs a special mindset to succeed but i miss to see her like a god in my games, i mean she got wings she is sparkly and all she lack the divine judgement in my opinion.
    About your question on what to change on her that could give her personality. I was thinking about adding a boost of movespeed while ulting, the only thing she can do under ult is walking/running, maybe we could imagine a kayle that could ult herself and go in the middle like an archange that comes to fight then a bit of movespeed to help replace herself then kite.
    Nota: If it's hard to understand me welp, sorry in french ;) désolé :)

  • @nonamesorry7135
    @nonamesorry7135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love playing her, but I can't stand her personality. Whenever she opens her mouth she awakens an urge in me to drop a very heavy brick on her toes.
    And the way riot made her look... she looks so fragile. And she basically floats around in a bathing suit with some armour I guess.

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean she is a Judicator usually, paladin/royal/authoritative type characters in fiction have a holier-than-thou personality like (Aurelian Sol, Azir, Camille, Kayle, Qiyana) it only makes sense.
      I think Riot did a good job on her design since it complements her gameplay nicely, immediately when you look at her design it's pretty obvious she's not a (Juggernaught or a Tank) which is good because she's squishy as you said fragile
      Imagine when Rell came out and you saw her design then Riot revealed her as an (Enchanter) it won't make sense because she's wearing full armour just like (Jarvan, Poppy, Nasus, Leona, Garen, Darius, Senjuani, Mordekaiser) etc.
      Could Riot have done better? sure but her current design is pretty decent/good, only I don't like about her design is the lack of detail on her wings and the design of the Blade.

  • @ordinalchaos
    @ordinalchaos หลายเดือนก่อน

    -Reworked kayle into a late game only champ
    -Removed the late game

  • @yakya128
    @yakya128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice vid

  • @srnadaradmanovic6135
    @srnadaradmanovic6135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kayle one trick talking. Why I chose to one trick her is becouse I just feel in love with the champion. Just thinking about the entire theme she has, I really liked it. Her mega scaling play style really appeals to me. Plus... Let's be honest, Kayle is just a champion you either play, or you don't. She is a marksmen in the toplane, but she can actually be your main carry

  • @samunstoray4668
    @samunstoray4668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kayle :
    Lvl 1 - meelee minion
    Lvl 6 - caster minion
    Lvl 11 - siege minion
    Lvl 16 - super minion

  • @bananasplit4391
    @bananasplit4391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    me, a kayle main: hehe fire swords

  • @jeraora3045
    @jeraora3045 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when kyle finaly can deal dmg the game already done hahaha

  • @shriekinambassador5042
    @shriekinambassador5042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 years later kayle is still at the same deadend - worse than she ever was pre rework (gameplay vise visually shes stunning except aether wing)

  • @shadowlinkfire
    @shadowlinkfire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she fits right into the roll of support...
    you build ap for the heal and move speeds... and since the attack speed ap item nashers tooth gives a bunch of ap, thats a must have... so you just build lots of ap, and in the late game. that leads the enemy team with a choice... do they try to take out kayle, who late game will destroy them, or do they go for the adc who if they live will also destroy them?
    just like a full ap lich bane sona... no one expects the damage these champs pump out because they are support.
    you really did miss that with a slow, a heal, and invulnerability that puts her solidly in support... after all... pyke is a support assassin. kayle is a support battle mage

  • @fakeigniz13
    @fakeigniz13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She's clearly meant to be a hard carry but the meta doesn't really support that idea. Either the jungler babysits till 6 and maybe a little longer, or she just suffers through it all. The melee phase just doesn't serve a purpose aside from capping he early game as an excuse for her ridiculous late game

  • @dzibanart8521
    @dzibanart8521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    old kayle was better

  • @pretendmynameisclever3229
    @pretendmynameisclever3229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I stopped playing league for like 5 years but I've since gotten back into it, this whole time I didn't even know I had Kayle but I tried her out after watching this and I think I'm going to main her

    • @tripleD2301
      @tripleD2301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very bold choice

    • @samunstoray4668
      @samunstoray4668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leticiastojanova4283 she isn't hard to play . Knowing runes and item paths for matchups is enough .

  • @jessicablack2346
    @jessicablack2346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kayle main here. I picked her up a while back and she's the only champion I play. Yea, there are probably better champions but I like her, and she seems like she could be amazing as I improve. (Saying that I have an 88% win rate with her and 89% on top lane overall, so I think people underestimate what Kayle can do when played correctly in the early game)

  • @Colorless_Reaper
    @Colorless_Reaper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When My champion pool has tons of champions from this series(Why no one plays series)
    Me:**Chuckles** I'm in danger :) .

    • @NormalSpeedGamer
      @NormalSpeedGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All my mains are in this.. kayle, sona, aurelion 😂😂

  • @randompie9608
    @randompie9608 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teemo speciality is ruining everyone’s day

  • @dreamydreams2694
    @dreamydreams2694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't play her because in the lore she is a truly beach

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I play her because she's awesome in the lore.
      I love the "punishment should fit the crime mentality" kinda like Judge Dredd.
      I think it's insane that her sister thinks everyone is redeemable.

  • @TalesKursped
    @TalesKursped 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Kayle main,
    who bought Kayle for my first champion,
    and who leveled from 1 to 30 in Season 3 with only Kayle
    I really really loved Kayle
    until Remake...
    Personally, I loved old Kayle Skins so much,
    and now my most favorite skin, "Unmasked Kayle" is gone
    and they took my Kayle from me :(
    Although there are many postive sides too,
    but I miss old kayle so much too.
    Not only the skins, but also her style of battle
    - Crazyily Basic Attack-ing enemies While Ulting

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the new one more but I agree with the auto-attacking enemies with Ultimate, it's way better than the current 160-second cooldown Ultimate that cripples me from using my champion.

  • @ChronoVix
    @ChronoVix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    “why no one plays kayle:”
    tft players in set 4.5: ummm in what universe

    • @mrwhit8859
      @mrwhit8859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      PLEASE STOP GIVING HER RAGE BLADE, RUNAANS AND RAPID FIRE CANNON MY SQUISHY CARRY CANNOT HANDLE

    • @privatedoorknob7408
      @privatedoorknob7408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kayle in tft is the whole reason i gave league a shot. Man was i disappointed. But im still playing sadly

    • @shanstar1051
      @shanstar1051 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TFT Players in every set kayle exists tbh

    • @lapislovesgaming8739
      @lapislovesgaming8739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cant play tft mobile cause i have a phone and not a tablet

    • @mrwhit8859
      @mrwhit8859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lapislovesgaming8739 same, it rlly sucks I just want to play tft all the time

  • @akane.sakurada
    @akane.sakurada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I agree with this video to the fullest and I mained Kayle for some time.
    Before all the item changes and level 6-level 11 change, you would find way more proof here. The Kayle Mains Discord was a chaos and everyone played something different with her. Even I played her as a support and maxed W. There was a time we maxed E first and built Muramana, then it went and we were left with not much options so some went back to the old build, some built full AD crit, some built AP burst and some like me just went with support because she worked there and didn't have that many disadvantages in the early game.
    Then they swapped level 11 power spike with level 6 spike. Things changed, she was very weak for a while to the point that she was undesirable, then finally found her place back.
    The best thing about Kayle is the feeling of revenge. You suffer for the first minutes, sure. Some top laners like Darius players even get offended and push as far as trying to tower dive and assaulting you on all chat. But in the end they get to suffer and you get to rise. In all the roles she's played, this is the meta and satisfaction we're all going for.

  • @ashwatha532
    @ashwatha532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo what's the background music at 2:30?

  • @zoroark522
    @zoroark522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I used to play Kayle a lot before she was reworked, and then played her a lot after. The mains issues I had were:
    1.) Abilities changed for too much AOE
    Her Q, W, and R all had AOE added to them and it put her into a weird spot of "should I now be in a duo lane or something?". They had their scalings/cooldowns/damage affected to incorporate this change that not a single previous Kayle main wanted. The entire point of playing her was as a hermit in the top lane that bullied the enemy and farmed as much as she could for items to carry.
    2.) Ult change
    Her ult change was such a weird one and a lot of people from the Kayle mains subreddit complained a lot. It changed the ult from a defensive ability that allowed her to carry fights without getting 1 shot to an offensive ability that you would be better off just throwing on an engager. This ties back to the first point, but it pushed more of her focus onto allies instead of the 1v9 machine people should be rewarded with for spending all game farming.
    3.) Burst
    Kayle was almost never a burst champion. If she got to very late game she could burst someone, but that was never the point of Kayle and in my opinion was something I wanted changed with her rework. But no, Riot went full in on burst meta and added yet another rework that just added burst to their kit and chalked it up as a win for them. This has been a pattern with so many champions in the past few years where they just add burst or a dash to try and 'modernize' these champions, but it just waters down the game. Her E/R changes and even her q with the buffer make her such a weird mix of on-hit and just straight up burst that it completely ruined her for me. I don't want to spend 35 minutes farming to one shot a poor adc who did nothing wrong. I want to perfectly "spaceglide" my way across the fight with a ton of attacks and outplay my enemy.
    4.) The laning phase
    This was a bigger issue before with her ranged at 11, but even so it just goes to show how incompetent and clueless Riot actually are. They had no idea what Kayle players liked her for and I highly doubt any Rioter that worked on this played Kayle a single time in their life. Her entire kit was based on bullying the enemy early, very similar to a Teemo, where she would prock E and either AOE enemies when they walk near the wave, or just auto them down. Her playstyle was to force shove waves and bully her enemy into low HP so that even if a gank came, she could kill the enemy or run away. She was one of the best pushers in the game and she had a lot of vulnerability that enemies could abuse, so she was pretty well balanced.
    I had a bigger list before but I don't remember it anymore because I just gave up on League. They ruined so much and now I have this immense knowledge of useless information with a passion for something that constantly fucks me over.

    • @dango2917
      @dango2917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same bro, I miss old Kayle the most.

  • @glu9862
    @glu9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I actually love to play Kayle. There would be no place to live for me in League without her.
    I Always wanted to play 1v1 lane, but i hated laning phase. I never wanted to roam, controlling minion waves is hard, so when I play kayle I dont have to worry about it. If i cant walk up to minions, I cant control the wave, and If i cant roam, I wont. Its chill and relaxing early game cuz Im just soaking exp sitting and chilling on lane. After laning phase Im a thanos and I can stomp plat noobs

    • @HoneyBanev
      @HoneyBanev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes thats exactly my thoughts, sometimes you get dove and raped but usually you can go afk for two minutes and win the game easily

    • @soulstalker4624
      @soulstalker4624 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, playing adcs in botlane gave me anxiety, but when I discovered Kayle, I found out all the times I played passively as an adc have made me play Kayle's laning phase with calm, letting the enemy push so I can just farm and let my jg get a free kill (Or even I can get the kill)

  • @antongrigoryev6381
    @antongrigoryev6381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure that Kayle lacks an identity. "Crazy DPS auto-attacker that scales into the lategame" is a pretty solid one, no? And she has all the things to support that playstyle. Q for a bit of control and to weaken enemies and make them take even more damage, W for a bit of survivability. Both are just at the level to do their job, but not too effective to overshadow Kayle's main playstyle. E and passive are direct boosts to auto-attacks. The only thing that doesn't really fit is her ult; it blocks her from auto-attacking and its huge AoE doesn't really fit what she is doing. The old one was better.

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I completely agree, her Ultimate is just a visual spectacle, Top 5 coolest looking Ultimates but not worth the pay-off.
      A 160-second Ultimate cooldown in Season 12 on a champion who doesn't build Ability-haste is horrendous.
      Ulting an ally and watching them make better use of my ultimate while I'm stuck in an animation hurts to watch.
      The Holy-Fire 'Sword Rain' animation needs to be completely removed in exchange for being able to use autos & abilities.
      The worst thing about the current Ultimate is how predictable it is, players will always save their flash/dash/speed-buff till the very end to avoid it forcing you to use your own Flash otherwise you just wasted a 160-second ability because for some stupid reason we aren't able to combo (R) with (W) for during the Ultimate for the necessary movement speed.
      Imagine how terrible Diana would be if she stayed in that prayer stance during her Ultimate as well.

  • @teunkanters6350
    @teunkanters6350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    great video! Kayle player here. It'd honestly help a lot if the game just gets a bit slower / if they nerfed the healing on w but instead lower the mana costs

    • @VarsVerum
      @VarsVerum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do sort of miss the old school 30-40 minute average games because you wouldn't insta lose a game if you made a mistake. But those games aren't fun to watch on LCS and stuff.

  • @ljdoff
    @ljdoff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kayle should be turned into an magical adc.

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds broken, already.
      Though it would be nice to see Kayle and Morgana side-by-side in botlane.

  • @wuj0-themanthemyththelegen856
    @wuj0-themanthemyththelegen856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just came back to this vid to see why I just lost ranked game with new Dr. Mundo top losing 1/11 to Kayle xd

  • @RoiOignon
    @RoiOignon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whining for babysitting... ¬_¬ When I play Kayle jungle I AM the babysitter !

  • @Halloweenexe
    @Halloweenexe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that Bayonetta music in the background? 0.0

  • @abrarnoorani8385
    @abrarnoorani8385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Personally, I love my tanks, I love the feeling of waltzing into the enemy while knowing that to a point I can't be brought down but I think I might pickup Kayle for more diversity in my roster

  • @eye8549
    @eye8549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate your disclaimer but I have to disagree with most of what you said. Kayle is an amazing champion with great hyper carry potential. True her early game is weak. And if the rest of your team is feeding bad and your Jg doesn't gank then kayle can be pretty difficult to carry with. But that can go for any champion. Her sudden change from melee to range turns her into a lane bully too. But she does require good mechanics to play effectively. I would definitely recommend kayle to any experienced top laner.

    • @silentbyte196
      @silentbyte196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I completely agree with you. She is in a great spot right now but because of the common saying that Kayle is ultra weak before 16 is completely false. She can cheese many champs at level 1 with her passive and ignite, And after 6 she becomes a perfect lane bully. Her AP build is not nearly as strong as her ADC build. With the ADC build Kayle is strong from level 6 itself once she gets an item like noonquiver or heck, even the pickaxe. AP build is more of a supportive role which limits her carry potential dramatically as you have to wait for Nashor's tooth.

  • @AltohP
    @AltohP ปีที่แล้ว

    I HEAR THAT BAYONETTA MUSIC SOUNDING OST

  • @lok4890
    @lok4890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Skip this disclaimer" *skips entire video*

  • @Hemophobia-
    @Hemophobia- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's that pokemon?
    It's Kayle!

  • @weirdairportdude7215
    @weirdairportdude7215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tft player be like:bruh

  • @aarondepaolo5292
    @aarondepaolo5292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Kayle is similar to Nasus in that she falls into a category of champs that force the enemy team to play more aggressively and devote resources to stopping you. If you can survive in lane as Kayle against your laner you are almost guarantee jg and mid lane ganks/roams constantly. If you have a strong early game jg and bot lane, then you can very easily secure most dragons and early towers on the other side of the map. She also forces her lane opponent to overextend to try and deny her cs because going even into Kayle is losing the lane and dooming your team later. She is a strong counter to tanks and juggernauts because of her survivability and kiting, but does terribly into skirmishers. I've only ever built Kayle as burst mage with a nashor's tooth, so I may have missed the 'lack of identity' crisis you mentioned in the video, lol. I think she is a strong counter to a slower team comp, and almost always a last pick as a counter to a tank or juggernaut.

  • @lolosh99
    @lolosh99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    She got buffed. *peeposmile*

  • @kl2g84
    @kl2g84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skip the disclaimer

  • @Thunder93ita
    @Thunder93ita 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    why no one plays kayle: her power spike is at level 11-16, by that time most games have already a determined outcome

    • @SoulDevoured
      @SoulDevoured 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They gave her quite a bit more power by 6. She's still a late game hypercarry but quite a bit less useless early

    • @eulefan
      @eulefan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      she can teleport to dragon lvl 6 and be a healing bud

  • @frogradar
    @frogradar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she just sucks. Her Q range is not good enough to poke and gets blocked by minions which most bruisers are behind.
    And games do not last long enough to get to even level 16 anymore.

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The question is why are you trying to poke champions with your Q, you're supposed to use it for engages.

  • @spacecowboy4545
    @spacecowboy4545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kayle support. That's all. m7 kayle supp main btw

  • @MangaGamified
    @MangaGamified 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nah I'm pretty sure less plays her cause u get flamed alot for not spamming ult on feeders xD
    instead of it's just the feeder getting flamed, you also get flamed and ping spam your 'ready' Ult
    kids think people are obligated to ult you if they jump in at 5 people underfarmed xD

    • @KalakauaGodHimself
      @KalakauaGodHimself 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ult yourself after they die to assert dominance

  • @lawrencealcantara
    @lawrencealcantara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    and here i am, support kayle. i think she fits the portector role very well. and if stuff goes south, you have the option to carry yourself!

    • @FrostyPeppercorn
      @FrostyPeppercorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly she is more of a support than Seraphine and yet she isnt a support and seraphine is?

    • @lawrencealcantara
      @lawrencealcantara 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrostyPeppercorn the only thing kayle lacks is hard cc but i can trade that away for immortality!

  • @Meep3688
    @Meep3688 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought kayle was a teamfight marksman

  • @SaltyPepperss
    @SaltyPepperss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kayle is actually really good rn she can easily 1v5 and has good endurance, she just gets messed up because ppl dunno how she plays

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agree, especially Kayle Toplane since it requires knowledge in wave management and manipulation.
      I've also seen Kayle use their Ultimate to survive instead of using it to mitigate burst, I had a Kayle on my team level 17 full build get destroyed 1v1 by a Master Yi then complained about Kayle being underpowered.
      The split-second Yi used his (Q) she should've used her (R) immediately instead of saving it for low health in which Yi got his (Q) back again and for some reason,.

  • @chasegallagher4444
    @chasegallagher4444 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love kayle, going 0/5/1 and ending the game with 23/6/11

  • @nikolayvladimirov8633
    @nikolayvladimirov8633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Update, everyone plays Kayle now.

  • @josh-do9kq
    @josh-do9kq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved old kayle hated new kayle

  • @WizardKingSolo
    @WizardKingSolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still waiting for Why no one plays Veigar Day 23

  • @alexmcfly31415
    @alexmcfly31415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beginner Kayle player here. What the frick do I build? Nashor's tooth and AP? Kraken slayer and AD? Or a mix of both? I legit don't know what to build on this champ

    • @samunstoray4668
      @samunstoray4668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whatever you need and want lol .

    • @alexmcfly31415
      @alexmcfly31415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samunstoray4668actually, yep, after playing her a bit more i realized that just about anything that isn't a tank/supp item works, as long as you build nashor's tooth before any other AP item

  • @peyper
    @peyper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Support kayle is op

  • @brandoncoles2042
    @brandoncoles2042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Identity as in comic or story Identity?

  • @KamaFromNeverland
    @KamaFromNeverland 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i actualy play Kayle.....

  • @romeufranciscozouxu3664
    @romeufranciscozouxu3664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I feel like her early game is so bad that her late game, which is not as strong as used to me IMO, is not worth putting ur entire team to play 4 vs 5

    • @nightcorechords5705
      @nightcorechords5705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, you can just pick Kaisa

    • @leonardojaxon
      @leonardojaxon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are VERY WRONG here. Kayle may be very weak early game, but late game she can 1v5

    • @ilikechaandiwantsya.7832
      @ilikechaandiwantsya.7832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @CocoaXtv_ This, its sad that there are people who never experienced old kayle late game, 1v9 ing games effortlessly and actually being a late game threat

    • @ninjedi6710
      @ninjedi6710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@leonardojaxon so can jinx, vayne, caitlyn, tristana. your point is moot.

    • @-_--td2hq
      @-_--td2hq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ninjedi6710 these are all adcs and what’s your point anyway?

  • @artforjoyofficial
    @artforjoyofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Kayle =)

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me Too.

  • @flameofmage1099
    @flameofmage1099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Kayle needs to be tankier. I'm basing this off the Paladin class from Dungeons and Dragon. She is the lol embodiment of the Paladin. If she was a tank she would fit into a tank support/frontline like Leona or Nautilus. Either that or she would become broken. I would like feedback from anyone reading this please.
    Edit: I've started to play Kayle so I don't stand by this as much.

  • @cryofwill1416
    @cryofwill1416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I play her as a support since season 4. She has some utility and I you can expand it with the correct items and runes, that's why I lover her so much

    • @unknownherrscher
      @unknownherrscher 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      SAME! i find her super complex specially when i got comfortable playing her

    • @sympunny8636
      @sympunny8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sadly since the rework, she's not great as support simply because being a duo lane messes her up. Her powerspikes are now completely focused on xp, and support is the most xp starved role there is.

  • @charbly8905
    @charbly8905 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @4:29
    "kicking names and taking ass"

  • @jamjerjam
    @jamjerjam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a kayle main, league hurts

  • @trufaguau2027
    @trufaguau2027 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the points u cover and also the Bayonetta music u putting XD

  • @blueicer101
    @blueicer101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    People hate having no agency for 10 levels.

  • @WillValforent
    @WillValforent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Kayle was absolutely broken on her rework, riot got scared and nerfed her to the ground, that's why "no one plays" her, I still love her though, the is a cool champ and the capacity of protecting your allies is great

    • @joaopedrocruz6432
      @joaopedrocruz6432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She wasn't broken, she was always pretty mediocre specially the higher elo you are. She only became ranged level 11( lots of champions could win the game before it happened) and was picked in pro play one time with moderate impact. She was good in the late game but good luck getting into that state.

    • @WillValforent
      @WillValforent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joaopedrocruz6432 So, when the 3% played was mediocre? that's still broken, if you need to win before a champ gets a level then it's strong, no need to be good or even decent

    • @joaopedrocruz6432
      @joaopedrocruz6432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WillValforent If that is the case you think that all late game champions are good, and that is just dumb in my opinion.

    • @WillValforent
      @WillValforent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joaopedrocruz6432 i don't know how you get that from what I answered, could you elaborate?

    • @howepellin
      @howepellin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah i can still remember the lvl 16 true damage.

  • @YiaMdj
    @YiaMdj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really miss old Kayle

  • @RWxAshley
    @RWxAshley 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your team will int their faces off, and you'll never be allowed to scale. Saved everyone time wondering why she doesn't get played solo que

  • @xavilius9488
    @xavilius9488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally started playing her Today, and never watched League content before, thanks for spying on me Google

  • @thesun4003
    @thesun4003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I exist.
    I think

  • @Axlepaxle
    @Axlepaxle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did Kayle say when she and Morgana got trapped in Veigar’s event horizon?
    “Veigar please lettuce go!”
    Bc her name is Kayle? You know like kale? Bah you get it..

  • @tobitobias3247
    @tobitobias3247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed the Fuck you on Vayne

  • @felixheidemeyer9480
    @felixheidemeyer9480 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just make her a marksman

  • @dexcf4418
    @dexcf4418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a 800k kayle xd xd