I didn’t get fitted because I’m in my 3rd year golf. What I did was listen to a bunch of golf podcasts that interviewed club fitters . I was slicing my regular 60 gram shaft ping 410 so one of fitters said he sometimes gives a golfer a heavier shaft and it might fix the slice. I hit my wedges straight because it’s a heavier shaft so I ordered a Titleist TSR2 70 gram stiff shaft and guess what? I hit it around 245 to 260 straight most of the time with no slice! Research works! Golf balls should be apart of the fittings also. After my own research an experimenting with golf balls, I have learned that the Titleist AVX is the best golf ball for my game. 2 eagles an a hole in one last season. My 2 cents
Amen, brother... I'm an old guy but still a 6 handicap, and I added a chipper last year - loft of a strong 8-iron (40 degrees), 65-degree lie, 35.5". I don't just use it around the green; I use it for a ton of shots inside 100 yards where I don't have to carry big bunkers or stop the ball quickly. This club hasn't really helped my score (I don't think), but it has added a dimension to my short game that I really enjoy. Bump-and-run shots have fallen out of favor, but I LOVE that shot! About the same time, I dumped my 4-iron for a 7-wood - higher ball flight, quicker stopping, same distance. That's a win every time. I certainly love the way my refurbished Hogan blades look, but I keep them in the bag because of the FEEL. And you are 100% correct about shafts and fitting, especially for driver (keep it at 44" or less, please...unless you really enjoy communing with the bugs in the rugh) - I got back about 15 yards by changine shafts to a more flexible but tis stiff shaft, AND tightened dispersion. Golf is a lot more fun when played from the middle of the fairway.
Good advice. Especially take lessons. We are all guilty of buying clubs to fix a swing problem. And we think we can fix a problem in our swing when we dont even know the problem.
I've just come back to golf after a 11 year break. Used to play off 6, now have an index of 18. Need a whole new set, my wedges grooves have all but gone, my irons are Titleist DCI 762's from 2001(ish) I've instead got a coach for the next 6 months minimum, have had 2 lessons so far, brought a new putter with more forgiveness and grinding each area of my game with what i'm learning before i invest. Interesting you say about brand snobbery, i'm a Titleist snob of old, now using SEED balls but desperate to replace like for like with the latest Titleist, it never leaves you!
Absolutely love this mate. Content like this is the exact reason why it’s the best golf channel on you tube. I’m a half decent player but the lowest iron I have is a 6 iron. I’m not good enough to have anything less. Some need to let go of their ego if they want to improve
Before I saw the entire video, look into graphite shafts for your irons... All your other comments, your bang on. For golf balls, I will pay a premium for "truer" golf balls. Lessons are critical, trust me, I've had many and need more. Great video 🇨🇦🏴⛳
Couldn't agree more Andy my bag is odd to say the least but it suites me.I have just swapped out my 7,8,9 irons for eleven hybrids and its made a big difference in not only my golf but also in confidence. My driver G425 is fitted to me and i doubt many others could use it, also use a ping chipper now as well. Was told years ago by a Pro "Play your bag not your partners".
Hello Andy , thank you again for all your advice. Custom fitting is surely the way to go. But living in the country side makes a fitting a real challenge. And it is not guaranteed that the next near by club fitter will be the right one. So going for a serious upgrade would require a real exercise. But it might be the right move to have the perfect fit in the bag. 😊😊😊😊
I have gone the custom fit route for a while now, I am sold on the idea because I got clubs that really suited my game and as my game improved were able to keep with me. But my biggest surprise this year (about golf!) was getting custom fit for a putter. I had never seen anyone being custom fit for a putter, I had little idea what it would entail but the difference in quality of put and critically confidence on the green was immediate. So do not forget about the putter when thinking about custom fit
I've not been fitted for any of my clubs but they've all been bought after a lot of consideration and research and to fit a particular place in the bag. Most of them bought 2nd hand too.
Andy yet again another informative and entertaining video. Great advice which many golfer are aware of but need reminding of , and in a delivery that we never tire of. Keep it up Andy.
Fantastic advice. Dead on, no BS. You just gave any golfer who will listen about $1,000 worth of free advice, the best he or she will ever get. Love the “gruff uncle Andy” approach.
Great video and advice Andy worth the reminder! I always trust the fitter and the data the figures don’t lie. My fitter had fitted Nick Faldo and Tommy Fleetwood, I have total belief in my equipment. I remember many years ago when Srixon came to the club they couldn’t understand why the people playing as mid to high handicappers were playing cavity back irons but tour wedges and Pro V1. The number of fitters from the manufacturers have told me as a 15 handicapper stay away from tour balls.
I’ve been guilty of many of these mistakes especially the “any regular shaft will do” error. It’s a real problem though that custom fitting is only generally available for new and therefore very expensive clubs. I also think the quality of custom fitting varies hugely- my latest experience was at a large retailer and frankly the “fitter” knew about as much as I did!
Whilst I totally agree about getting clubs to suit your game you said why if you have game improvement irons would you have bladed wedges. I used to play of 7 but advancing years has seen an increased handicap so need help with mid irons but my short game is still tidy so much prefer my RTX wedges to chunkier options. I carry 7 and 9 woods and my irons are 7,8,9
Evening andy, agree with everything you have said. Also find the right ball for your game sometimes a cheaper ball will work better than a more expesive one for the individual player. 👍
What does fitting consist of? Is it finding the right brand of club for the person or does it mean bending a club (changing the lofts) to fit the individual’s swing. Also if I purchase a set of used clubs from a golf shop can I pay to be fitted? I guess you can tell I need help.
two recommendations are at odds: buying used clubs and getting fit. I've found it difficult to find a fitter when there is not a sale of clubs involved.
I think if you can afford it then fitting via a good fitter not just a salesman is the way forward. However not everyone can afford that and new clubs. So the second hand market is where they go. You can get a rough guide on the internet when putting in height swing speed grip and your natural miss. A friend of mine did it and also had a fitting the result was virtually the same.
You talk about stiff and regular shafts. At 72 I use a regular shaft in my driver and then senior shafts for 7 wood and irons. Wedges are steel shafted. Changing shafts has made a huge difference to my game. Now just need that new knee. 😂😂😂
Buying on looks! This is one what makes me laugh! People not trying a certain club because of aesthetics! I’ve played with some of the ugliest clubs ever! Cleveland VAS, Ping Zing 2, but it didn’t bother me in the slightest as they worked for me!
mmm . . . brand loyalty . . . I have a Titleist bag, glove, balls, driver, woods, irons, wedges, putter and key ring - i do however buy bamboo tees so clearly that brand loyalty OCD stuff clearly does not apply to me
I've never been custom fitted, not properly anyway, for a couple of reasons. One, most golf retailers in my country seem to think that custom fitting means throwing a bunch of clubs at you and seeing what you hit best. They might measure your swing speed and tell you if they think you need stiff or regular. And that's it. Maybe they'll cut your irons shorter but they won't swing weight them afterwards. They probably won't check lie angles or launch angles. Secondly they'll only do those things for clubs you're buying from them and they only sell brand new clubs. Brand new clubs are insanely expensive and not only can i not afford them, even if i could, I am not good enough at golf to justify spending thousands of dollars on new equipment. I would love to be properly custom fit like some of the fittings I see on You Tube, but I go to my local retailers and I seem to know more about their clubs than they do. You can just about fit yourself better using online research. I have a second hand driver (2016 M2), I've cut it shorter, reweighted it to D3, experimented to find the best loft sleeve setting, tried a few different shafts before settling on my current one, and I'm still yet to find anything at a retail store that performs better.
I'm in the same boat. I want to get better, am organising some lessons and suspect getting fitted might also help me. But it would be premature for me to splash out of a set of new fitted clubs when I don't think I'm good enough to justify the cost, so will have to make do with a set of random clubs I bought off a mate 8 years ago for $300.
Like any profession, fitters will always think of time spent versus money spent (even if the customer may only part with his money at a later, subsequent fitting). And less time spent is better in their minds. This is how the financial world works unfortunately.
@@zazhou I have to say it’s not something I personally experienced but I always worked with fitters who I had built a long time relationship with, so got to know the fitters, became a loyal customer etc. Unfortunately many golfers will utilise the time and expertise of a fitter and then go online and purchase the product elsewhere which is why in some cases your suggestion about human nature works both ways
Yes I did and I wished it could be otherwise but unfortutely the market dictates and I can show you some alarming stats that show people watch these style of thumbnail and absolutely love click bait titles which everyone claims to hate, I dont have the finances to be a martyr and ignore these alarming stats
To call someone 'a lunatic' because they don't get custom fit, is actually very rude. A lot of people, me included, buy second hand because we can't afford new and thus no custom fit option.... we have to make an educated guess.
@@TheAverageGolfer Oh really. First you call people like me lunatics for not having a custom fit, then you call me a fool , even though you were serious with your comment on custom fitting and now you call me a lunatic again... I love it when You-Tubers reveal their true arrogant nature. .... Still, one less subscriber for you to bother with now, you rectum.
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I didn’t get fitted because I’m in my 3rd year golf. What I did was listen to a bunch of golf podcasts that interviewed club fitters . I was slicing my regular 60 gram shaft ping 410 so one of fitters said he sometimes gives a golfer a
heavier shaft and it might fix the slice. I hit my wedges straight because it’s a heavier shaft so I ordered a Titleist TSR2 70 gram stiff shaft and guess what? I hit it around 245 to 260 straight most of the time with no slice! Research works! Golf balls should be apart
of the fittings also. After my own research an experimenting with golf balls, I have learned that the Titleist AVX is the best golf ball for my game. 2 eagles an a hole in one last season. My 2 cents
Amen, brother... I'm an old guy but still a 6 handicap, and I added a chipper last year - loft of a strong 8-iron (40 degrees), 65-degree lie, 35.5". I don't just use it around the green; I use it for a ton of shots inside 100 yards where I don't have to carry big bunkers or stop the ball quickly. This club hasn't really helped my score (I don't think), but it has added a dimension to my short game that I really enjoy. Bump-and-run shots have fallen out of favor, but I LOVE that shot! About the same time, I dumped my 4-iron for a 7-wood - higher ball flight, quicker stopping, same distance. That's a win every time. I certainly love the way my refurbished Hogan blades look, but I keep them in the bag because of the FEEL. And you are 100% correct about shafts and fitting, especially for driver (keep it at 44" or less, please...unless you really enjoy communing with the bugs in the rugh) - I got back about 15 yards by changine shafts to a more flexible but tis stiff shaft, AND tightened dispersion. Golf is a lot more fun when played from the middle of the fairway.
Keep playing well bud 👏👏
Good advice. Especially take lessons. We are all guilty of buying clubs to fix a swing problem. And we think we can fix a problem in our swing when we dont even know the problem.
I've just come back to golf after a 11 year break. Used to play off 6, now have an index of 18.
Need a whole new set, my wedges grooves have all but gone, my irons are Titleist DCI 762's from 2001(ish)
I've instead got a coach for the next 6 months minimum, have had 2 lessons so far, brought a new putter with more forgiveness and grinding each area of my game with what i'm learning before i invest.
Interesting you say about brand snobbery, i'm a Titleist snob of old, now using SEED balls but desperate to replace like for like with the latest Titleist, it never leaves you!
Absolutely love this mate. Content like this is the exact reason why it’s the best golf channel on you tube. I’m a half decent player but the lowest iron I have is a 6 iron. I’m not good enough to have anything less. Some need to let go of their ego if they want to improve
Appreciate those comments mate 👍
Before I saw the entire video, look into graphite shafts for your irons... All your other comments, your bang on. For golf balls, I will pay a premium for "truer" golf balls. Lessons are critical, trust me, I've had many and need more. Great video 🇨🇦🏴⛳
I play steel fiber shafts in my irons
Couldn't agree more Andy my bag is odd to say the least but it suites me.I have just swapped out my 7,8,9 irons for eleven hybrids and its made a big difference in not only my golf but also in confidence. My driver G425 is fitted to me and i doubt many others could use it, also use a ping chipper now as well. Was told years ago by a Pro "Play your bag not your partners".
Hello Andy , thank you again for all your advice. Custom fitting is surely the way to go. But living in the country side makes a fitting a real challenge. And it is not guaranteed that the next near by club fitter will be the right one. So going for a serious upgrade would require a real exercise. But it might be the right move to have the perfect fit in the bag. 😊😊😊😊
Of course it’s not always an option and totally understand
I have gone the custom fit route for a while now, I am sold on the idea because I got clubs that really suited my game and as my game improved were able to keep with me.
But my biggest surprise this year (about golf!) was getting custom fit for a putter. I had never seen anyone being custom fit for a putter, I had little idea what it would entail but the difference in quality of put and critically confidence on the green was immediate. So do not forget about the putter when thinking about custom fit
It’s such an overlooked area
I've not been fitted for any of my clubs but they've all been bought after a lot of consideration and research and to fit a particular place in the bag. Most of them bought 2nd hand too.
Andy yet again another informative and entertaining video. Great advice which many golfer are aware of but need reminding of , and in a delivery that we never tire of. Keep it up Andy.
Much appreciate Mel 🙌
Thanks Andy!
Great advice, Andy. Would love a follow up video on “10 Biggest Mistakes When Buying Golf Balls.”
Fantastic advice. Dead on, no BS. You just gave any golfer who will listen about $1,000 worth of free advice, the best he or she will ever get. Love the “gruff uncle Andy” approach.
Glad you think so John 👍
Great advice as allways👍👍👍
Thanks again!
I love that last Bonus thought about Getting custom fit and not missing an opportunity for a better result.
Absolutely 👍
@@TheAverageGolferjust scheduled a retro fit for my G425 driver … irons are fitted.. now for the rest and stop guessing at it 🤙🏽⛳️🥃🇨🇦
Great video and advice Andy worth the reminder! I always trust the fitter and the data the figures don’t lie. My fitter had fitted Nick Faldo and Tommy Fleetwood, I have total belief in my equipment. I remember many years ago when Srixon came to the club they couldn’t understand why the people playing as mid to high handicappers were playing cavity back irons but tour wedges and Pro V1. The number of fitters from the manufacturers have told me as a 15 handicapper stay away from tour balls.
Yep makes total sense to me, we need to recognise our ability to
I’ve been guilty of many of these mistakes especially the “any regular shaft will do” error. It’s a real problem though that custom fitting is only generally available for new and therefore very expensive clubs. I also think the quality of custom fitting varies hugely- my latest experience was at a large retailer and frankly the “fitter” knew about as much as I did!
You make valid points Michael
Whilst I totally agree about getting clubs to suit your game you said why if you have game improvement irons would you have bladed wedges. I used to play of 7 but advancing years has seen an increased handicap so need help with mid irons but my short game is still tidy so much prefer my RTX wedges to chunkier options. I carry 7 and 9 woods and my irons are 7,8,9
I’ve been using 7-Gw hybrid irons all year. They’ve given me 20 extra yards. I’m 73 @ 10.8
Good for you bud 👏👏
Evening andy, agree with everything you have said. Also find the right ball for your game sometimes a cheaper ball will work better than a more expesive one for the individual player. 👍
I absolutely agree about the ball, most golfers can’t get any performance out of premium balls
Harsh, Andy… I’ve got a PXG Allan putter in the bag at the minute so I’m not quite end to end Titleist… for now!
😂😂👍
Beautiful course.
I put an older Cleveland smart soul sand wedge back in the bag, I need an easy out
Great option
Beautiful course; Excellent advice!
Glad it was helpful!
What does fitting consist of? Is it finding the right brand of club for the person or does it mean bending a club (changing the lofts) to fit the individual’s swing. Also if I purchase a set of used clubs from a golf shop can I pay to be fitted? I guess you can tell I need help.
I think it's a reasonable question mate.
two recommendations are at odds: buying used clubs and getting fit. I've found it difficult to find a fitter when there is not a sale of clubs involved.
I dont think they are, one refers to personal budget and the other clearly states.....'if you are buying NEW clubs' you should always get custom fit
I think if you can afford it then fitting via a good fitter not just a salesman is the way forward. However not everyone can afford that and new clubs. So the second hand market is where they go. You can get a rough guide on the internet when putting in height swing speed grip and your natural miss. A friend of mine did it and also had a fitting the result was virtually the same.
I agree about budget but not about entering online details for custom fit, sorry
You talk about stiff and regular shafts. At 72 I use a regular shaft in my driver and then senior shafts for 7 wood and irons. Wedges are steel shafted. Changing shafts has made a huge difference to my game. Now just need that new knee. 😂😂😂
Good luck with the knee !
Just had a nice new shiny set of t rails delivered. Like a fat girl, you don’t want to be seen with them but great fun.
Love those clubs
Where did you get that top with the diagonal zip?
@@jonathanloader9321 PXG
#11 - Feel free to buy used clubs, but get them regripped. Then they're as good as new, and you don't have to worry about the first scuff.
Nice course you’re playing Andy - where is that?
Its Portal in Cheshire where we will be hosting a competition next year
Are you sponsored by pxg or that is your current everyday irons that’s in the bag
Buying on looks! This is one what makes me laugh! People not trying a certain club because of aesthetics! I’ve played with some of the ugliest clubs ever! Cleveland VAS, Ping Zing 2, but it didn’t bother me in the slightest as they worked for me!
Yes I am slightly guilty of this one
It helps to buy something you like the look of - a bit like dating!
What happens when it looks tired and worn out…..trade in for a new model?
mmm . . . brand loyalty . . . I have a Titleist bag, glove, balls, driver, woods, irons, wedges, putter and key ring - i do however buy bamboo tees so clearly that brand loyalty OCD stuff clearly does not apply to me
😂😂
I've never been custom fitted, not properly anyway, for a couple of reasons. One, most golf retailers in my country seem to think that custom fitting means throwing a bunch of clubs at you and seeing what you hit best. They might measure your swing speed and tell you if they think you need stiff or regular. And that's it. Maybe they'll cut your irons shorter but they won't swing weight them afterwards. They probably won't check lie angles or launch angles.
Secondly they'll only do those things for clubs you're buying from them and they only sell brand new clubs. Brand new clubs are insanely expensive and not only can i not afford them, even if i could, I am not good enough at golf to justify spending thousands of dollars on new equipment.
I would love to be properly custom fit like some of the fittings I see on You Tube, but I go to my local retailers and I seem to know more about their clubs than they do.
You can just about fit yourself better using online research. I have a second hand driver (2016 M2), I've cut it shorter, reweighted it to D3, experimented to find the best loft sleeve setting, tried a few different shafts before settling on my current one, and I'm still yet to find anything at a retail store that performs better.
I'm in the same boat. I want to get better, am organising some lessons and suspect getting fitted might also help me.
But it would be premature for me to splash out of a set of new fitted clubs when I don't think I'm good enough to justify the cost, so will have to make do with a set of random clubs I bought off a mate 8 years ago for $300.
I would be really concerned by the quality of the custom fitters you have experienced so far
There is always a question of when is the right time and I dont think there is a right answer
Like any profession, fitters will always think of time spent versus money spent (even if the customer may only part with his money at a later, subsequent fitting). And less time spent is better in their minds. This is how the financial world works unfortunately.
@@zazhou I have to say it’s not something I personally experienced but I always worked with fitters who I had built a long time relationship with, so got to know the fitters, became a loyal customer etc.
Unfortunately many golfers will utilise the time and expertise of a fitter and then go online and purchase the product elsewhere which is why in some cases your suggestion about human nature works both ways
Went back to the same old video tags. With big red and white notices. Remembee when you said going to do it all differently 😂 didnt last long
Yes I did and I wished it could be otherwise but unfortutely the market dictates and I can show you some alarming stats that show people watch these style of thumbnail and absolutely love click bait titles which everyone claims to hate, I dont have the finances to be a martyr and ignore these alarming stats
You need to change your channel name to "The bloody good golfer." 😂
Don’t be afraid of trying game improvement equipment. Discuss with a local pro.
absolutely
I feel like you made this video........just for me......😂😂😂
I know my audience 😂
All just common sense. But with golf, common sense goes out of the window.
It sure does
The biggest mistake is buying any clubs at all.
To call someone 'a lunatic' because they don't get custom fit, is actually very rude. A lot of people, me included, buy second hand because we can't afford new and thus no custom fit option.... we have to make an educated guess.
Get a life you fool, it’s a joke and if you take otherwise you have a serious problem
@TheAverageGolfer No, you meant it . . You're tone says it all.
@ you are without doubt a lunatic 😂
@@TheAverageGolfer Oh really. First you call people like me lunatics for not having a custom fit, then you call me a fool , even though you were serious with your comment on custom fitting and now you call me a lunatic again... I love it when You-Tubers reveal their true arrogant nature. .... Still, one less subscriber for you to bother with now, you rectum.
He clearly states "when buying new". Clean your ears out and stop being so sensitive 😁
Most of these tips apply equally to choosing wives or girlfriends.