Amen, brother... I'm an old guy but still a 6 handicap, and I added a chipper last year - loft of a strong 8-iron (40 degrees), 65-degree lie, 35.5". I don't just use it around the green; I use it for a ton of shots inside 100 yards where I don't have to carry big bunkers or stop the ball quickly. This club hasn't really helped my score (I don't think), but it has added a dimension to my short game that I really enjoy. Bump-and-run shots have fallen out of favor, but I LOVE that shot! About the same time, I dumped my 4-iron for a 7-wood - higher ball flight, quicker stopping, same distance. That's a win every time. I certainly love the way my refurbished Hogan blades look, but I keep them in the bag because of the FEEL. And you are 100% correct about shafts and fitting, especially for driver (keep it at 44" or less, please...unless you really enjoy communing with the bugs in the rugh) - I got back about 15 yards by changine shafts to a more flexible but tis stiff shaft, AND tightened dispersion. Golf is a lot more fun when played from the middle of the fairway.
Andy I agree with almost all of this. BUT....I went down the custom fit route. One guy (fitter for a top brand) told me that I need irons 2 degrees flat. When I went to another fitter (from a well known golf retail chain) for a second opinion he assured me I needed 2 degrees upright. Both were adamant...rather undermined my faith in custom fit. I wonder if anyone has had a similarly confusing experience? In the end I bought Wilson d9 Forged in standard spec, and I've been very happy with these.
I didn’t get fitted because I’m in my 3rd year golf. What I did was listen to a bunch of golf podcasts that interviewed club fitters . I was slicing my regular 60 gram shaft ping 410 so one of fitters said he sometimes gives a golfer a heavier shaft and it might fix the slice. I hit my wedges straight because it’s a heavier shaft so I ordered a Titleist TSR2 70 gram stiff shaft and guess what? I hit it around 245 to 260 straight most of the time with no slice! Research works! Golf balls should be apart of the fittings also. After my own research an experimenting with golf balls, I have learned that the Titleist AVX is the best golf ball for my game. 2 eagles an a hole in one last season. My 2 cents
I have gone the custom fit route for a while now, I am sold on the idea because I got clubs that really suited my game and as my game improved were able to keep with me. But my biggest surprise this year (about golf!) was getting custom fit for a putter. I had never seen anyone being custom fit for a putter, I had little idea what it would entail but the difference in quality of put and critically confidence on the green was immediate. So do not forget about the putter when thinking about custom fit
I agree with everything except the wedge theory. I would recommend everyone having something like a Vokey. The grind and bounce options and getting the right ones will make a big difference whatever the swing speed/handicap.
Good advice. Especially take lessons. We are all guilty of buying clubs to fix a swing problem. And we think we can fix a problem in our swing when we dont even know the problem.
Couldn't agree more Andy my bag is odd to say the least but it suites me.I have just swapped out my 7,8,9 irons for eleven hybrids and its made a big difference in not only my golf but also in confidence. My driver G425 is fitted to me and i doubt many others could use it, also use a ping chipper now as well. Was told years ago by a Pro "Play your bag not your partners".
Hello Andy , thank you again for all your advice. Custom fitting is surely the way to go. But living in the country side makes a fitting a real challenge. And it is not guaranteed that the next near by club fitter will be the right one. So going for a serious upgrade would require a real exercise. But it might be the right move to have the perfect fit in the bag. 😊😊😊😊
Before I saw the entire video, look into graphite shafts for your irons... All your other comments, your bang on. For golf balls, I will pay a premium for "truer" golf balls. Lessons are critical, trust me, I've had many and need more. Great video 🇨🇦🏴⛳
Andy yet again another informative and entertaining video. Great advice which many golfer are aware of but need reminding of , and in a delivery that we never tire of. Keep it up Andy.
I've not been fitted for any of my clubs but they've all been bought after a lot of consideration and research and to fit a particular place in the bag. Most of them bought 2nd hand too.
Evening andy, agree with everything you have said. Also find the right ball for your game sometimes a cheaper ball will work better than a more expesive one for the individual player. 👍
Fantastic advice. Dead on, no BS. You just gave any golfer who will listen about $1,000 worth of free advice, the best he or she will ever get. Love the “gruff uncle Andy” approach.
Whilst I totally agree about getting clubs to suit your game you said why if you have game improvement irons would you have bladed wedges. I used to play of 7 but advancing years has seen an increased handicap so need help with mid irons but my short game is still tidy so much prefer my RTX wedges to chunkier options. I carry 7 and 9 woods and my irons are 7,8,9
I’ve been guilty of many of these mistakes especially the “any regular shaft will do” error. It’s a real problem though that custom fitting is only generally available for new and therefore very expensive clubs. I also think the quality of custom fitting varies hugely- my latest experience was at a large retailer and frankly the “fitter” knew about as much as I did!
Absolutely love this mate. Content like this is the exact reason why it’s the best golf channel on you tube. I’m a half decent player but the lowest iron I have is a 6 iron. I’m not good enough to have anything less. Some need to let go of their ego if they want to improve
I've just come back to golf after a 11 year break. Used to play off 6, now have an index of 18. Need a whole new set, my wedges grooves have all but gone, my irons are Titleist DCI 762's from 2001(ish) I've instead got a coach for the next 6 months minimum, have had 2 lessons so far, brought a new putter with more forgiveness and grinding each area of my game with what i'm learning before i invest. Interesting you say about brand snobbery, i'm a Titleist snob of old, now using SEED balls but desperate to replace like for like with the latest Titleist, it never leaves you!
Unfortunately in my area there are very few fitters and they are extremely expensive. It is also difficult to find any reviews on the few in the area as to whether they are worth the money. I agree that finding a competent fitter would be the best strategy.
@@ConnerTucker-p7u what do they charge? Anyone I have ever been custom fit by deducts the minimal fee from the clubs you purchase, if you choose not to buy it’s around £35
@ I’m in Southwestern Ontario Canada and you are correct the fitter will give you a discount on golf clubs if you purchase them. However the clubs are marked up to account for this. I ordered clubs on line from Gigagolf in Florida, they have an e-fit system to allow you to order custom clubs. You can choose shaft, grip size, length and lie angle based on your measurements/specifications. I purchased irons and they fit me well, the correct lie angle really made a difference. Even with the shipping and duty charges at the border they were less than half the price of name brand irons sold here.
two recommendations are at odds: buying used clubs and getting fit. I've found it difficult to find a fitter when there is not a sale of clubs involved.
Hi, I am Darren from Germany. With a height of 1.77 meters and a weight of 80 kilograms, I have an athletic and balanced physique, which gives me stability and control in my golf swing. Current I am playing the Wilson Launchpad 2 clubs at regular graphit shafts, and I achieve a consistent carry distance of 135 meters with my 7-iron. I’m considering using one length irons set to the length of a 9-iron, since it’s my most reliable club. However, I’ve been advised by many that the shaft might be too short to achieve the distance that I need. Could this shorter length impact my performance, or could it still be a helpful setup for improving my consistency across LW - i5 irons? Thx for your feedback!
You talk about stiff and regular shafts. At 72 I use a regular shaft in my driver and then senior shafts for 7 wood and irons. Wedges are steel shafted. Changing shafts has made a huge difference to my game. Now just need that new knee. 😂😂😂
What does fitting consist of? Is it finding the right brand of club for the person or does it mean bending a club (changing the lofts) to fit the individual’s swing. Also if I purchase a set of used clubs from a golf shop can I pay to be fitted? I guess you can tell I need help.
if you purchse clus from QUALIITY RETAILER, used , new or custom fit. that should be the start of a relationship. i play a set of custom fit Srixon Irons and Cleveland wedges. i take them to my sales erson / fitter and get the lie and lofte checked and dialled in a couple times per year. as an added bonus to your fitting once you have your new.. or new to you clubs in hand do a gapping session to educate yourself on the gaps between your irons. dial them in play bette golf!! Cheers, great Video ANDY
I think if you can afford it then fitting via a good fitter not just a salesman is the way forward. However not everyone can afford that and new clubs. So the second hand market is where they go. You can get a rough guide on the internet when putting in height swing speed grip and your natural miss. A friend of mine did it and also had a fitting the result was virtually the same.
@ I’d say more luck than judgement, how does anyone establish their club head speed, angle of attack and how they load the shaft without launch monitor data?
mmm . . . brand loyalty . . . I have a Titleist bag, glove, balls, driver, woods, irons, wedges, putter and key ring - i do however buy bamboo tees so clearly that brand loyalty OCD stuff clearly does not apply to me
Yes I did and I wished it could be otherwise but unfortutely the market dictates and I can show you some alarming stats that show people watch these style of thumbnail and absolutely love click bait titles which everyone claims to hate, I dont have the finances to be a martyr and ignore these alarming stats
I've never been custom fitted, not properly anyway, for a couple of reasons. One, most golf retailers in my country seem to think that custom fitting means throwing a bunch of clubs at you and seeing what you hit best. They might measure your swing speed and tell you if they think you need stiff or regular. And that's it. Maybe they'll cut your irons shorter but they won't swing weight them afterwards. They probably won't check lie angles or launch angles. Secondly they'll only do those things for clubs you're buying from them and they only sell brand new clubs. Brand new clubs are insanely expensive and not only can i not afford them, even if i could, I am not good enough at golf to justify spending thousands of dollars on new equipment. I would love to be properly custom fit like some of the fittings I see on You Tube, but I go to my local retailers and I seem to know more about their clubs than they do. You can just about fit yourself better using online research. I have a second hand driver (2016 M2), I've cut it shorter, reweighted it to D3, experimented to find the best loft sleeve setting, tried a few different shafts before settling on my current one, and I'm still yet to find anything at a retail store that performs better.
I'm in the same boat. I want to get better, am organising some lessons and suspect getting fitted might also help me. But it would be premature for me to splash out of a set of new fitted clubs when I don't think I'm good enough to justify the cost, so will have to make do with a set of random clubs I bought off a mate 8 years ago for $300.
Like any profession, fitters will always think of time spent versus money spent (even if the customer may only part with his money at a later, subsequent fitting). And less time spent is better in their minds. This is how the financial world works unfortunately.
@@zazhou I have to say it’s not something I personally experienced but I always worked with fitters who I had built a long time relationship with, so got to know the fitters, became a loyal customer etc. Unfortunately many golfers will utilise the time and expertise of a fitter and then go online and purchase the product elsewhere which is why in some cases your suggestion about human nature works both ways
Buying on looks! This is one what makes me laugh! People not trying a certain club because of aesthetics! I’ve played with some of the ugliest clubs ever! Cleveland VAS, Ping Zing 2, but it didn’t bother me in the slightest as they worked for me!
To call someone 'a lunatic' because they don't get custom fit, is actually very rude. A lot of people, me included, buy second hand because we can't afford new and thus no custom fit option.... we have to make an educated guess.
@@TheAverageGolfer Oh really. First you call people like me lunatics for not having a custom fit, then you call me a fool , even though you were serious with your comment on custom fitting and now you call me a lunatic again... I love it when You-Tubers reveal their true arrogant nature. .... Still, one less subscriber for you to bother with now, you rectum.
You can get custom fit for used clubs at many stores. I bought a used set from the sets available at the store and was able to hit a bunch of sets till I found one that suited me.
Great video and advice Andy worth the reminder! I always trust the fitter and the data the figures don’t lie. My fitter had fitted Nick Faldo and Tommy Fleetwood, I have total belief in my equipment. I remember many years ago when Srixon came to the club they couldn’t understand why the people playing as mid to high handicappers were playing cavity back irons but tour wedges and Pro V1. The number of fitters from the manufacturers have told me as a 15 handicapper stay away from tour balls.
Andy…you forgot the most important Rule of all…Rule Number 11…”Don’t always believe what you see & hear on You Tube!”…in the past you’ve been an advocate of ditching the 3-Wood, the 4-Iron, and the Lob Wedge…they are 3 of my favourite clubs and you don’t have to be a Pro to wield them to great effect You also recommended we go out and buy shorter Driver shafts when all you need to do is choke down the grip an inch or two! That said, I do enjoy watching your channel content, even if I don’t always heed your advice PS…calling people ‘lunatics’ is likely to offend!
@@the2ironkid I don’t underestimate the ability for my audience to realise that an opinion is not a fact and you take from a video what you will. PS…..Any viewer that gets offended by a tongue and cheek comment isn’t welcome quite honestly and need to get a sense of humour, this kind of comment is pathetic to be quite honest
I wish the 'use irons that fit your handicap' myth would die. If you're off 20 and you three putt every hole how is that an indication you can't use real golf clubs like blades?
@@TheAverageGolfer The game is completely different when played with blades. It's true golf. And modern blades aren't hard to hit at all from 7 iron to PW. There is no reason not to have at least a combo set. Most 'high handicap players' are fatting and thinning, missing short long and side to side, failing to get out of bunkers, horrendous short game, wayward off the tee, absolutely nothing to do with iron strike yet we pigeon hole them all into 'your handicap is high so you must not be able to hit an iron, here have a shovel that can't hold a green, that goes different distances whenever it feels like it, that allows you to hit it poorly but hey at least it still goes the same distance even though that distance was a massive slice'? Do ME a favour. Anyone of any handicap should use blades at least in 7-PW. The real reason massive irons exist is so they can sell 'tech' to people meaning new clubs every few years when the tech 'gets better'. Yet average handicap is the same now as it was when blades were the only option. Why would that be?
@@TheAverageGolfer I don't see anything that's hilarious. You're literally equating high handicap with poor iron striking which is ridiculous because of all the other stuff i mentioned. I'm off 18 and i 3 putt on average about 10 holes every round. I shouldn't use blades? If i improve my putting and 2 putt every hole, and improving my handicap by 10 strokes, i'll suddenly be able to use blades? You'd never tell someone in single figures not to use blades but in the scenario above literally the only variable that changed was my putting. Come on, you know that doesn't make any sense at all. Just admit you are wrong and that suggesting clubs based on handicap is a very flawed approach.
@ my god your off 18 and feel in a position to offer up advice on the use of blades, I’m sorry bud but this is getting embarrassing, if you take some of my advice you will find the game will be more enjoyable and that handicap will come down……good luck and play well 👍
Amen, brother... I'm an old guy but still a 6 handicap, and I added a chipper last year - loft of a strong 8-iron (40 degrees), 65-degree lie, 35.5". I don't just use it around the green; I use it for a ton of shots inside 100 yards where I don't have to carry big bunkers or stop the ball quickly. This club hasn't really helped my score (I don't think), but it has added a dimension to my short game that I really enjoy. Bump-and-run shots have fallen out of favor, but I LOVE that shot! About the same time, I dumped my 4-iron for a 7-wood - higher ball flight, quicker stopping, same distance. That's a win every time. I certainly love the way my refurbished Hogan blades look, but I keep them in the bag because of the FEEL. And you are 100% correct about shafts and fitting, especially for driver (keep it at 44" or less, please...unless you really enjoy communing with the bugs in the rugh) - I got back about 15 yards by changine shafts to a more flexible but tis stiff shaft, AND tightened dispersion. Golf is a lot more fun when played from the middle of the fairway.
Keep playing well bud 👏👏
Andy I agree with almost all of this. BUT....I went down the custom fit route. One guy (fitter for a top brand) told me that I need irons 2 degrees flat. When I went to another fitter (from a well known golf retail chain) for a second opinion he assured me I needed 2 degrees upright. Both were adamant...rather undermined my faith in custom fit. I wonder if anyone has had a similarly confusing experience? In the end I bought Wilson d9 Forged in standard spec, and I've been very happy with these.
Yes that is a little worrying, if they are using Trackman or similar correctly it should provide factually data to determine rather than opinion?
I didn’t get fitted because I’m in my 3rd year golf. What I did was listen to a bunch of golf podcasts that interviewed club fitters . I was slicing my regular 60 gram shaft ping 410 so one of fitters said he sometimes gives a golfer a
heavier shaft and it might fix the slice. I hit my wedges straight because it’s a heavier shaft so I ordered a Titleist TSR2 70 gram stiff shaft and guess what? I hit it around 245 to 260 straight most of the time with no slice! Research works! Golf balls should be apart
of the fittings also. After my own research an experimenting with golf balls, I have learned that the Titleist AVX is the best golf ball for my game. 2 eagles an a hole in one last season. My 2 cents
I have gone the custom fit route for a while now, I am sold on the idea because I got clubs that really suited my game and as my game improved were able to keep with me.
But my biggest surprise this year (about golf!) was getting custom fit for a putter. I had never seen anyone being custom fit for a putter, I had little idea what it would entail but the difference in quality of put and critically confidence on the green was immediate. So do not forget about the putter when thinking about custom fit
It’s such an overlooked area
I agree with everything except the wedge theory. I would recommend everyone having something like a Vokey. The grind and bounce options and getting the right ones will make a big difference whatever the swing speed/handicap.
Good advice. Especially take lessons. We are all guilty of buying clubs to fix a swing problem. And we think we can fix a problem in our swing when we dont even know the problem.
Couldn't agree more Andy my bag is odd to say the least but it suites me.I have just swapped out my 7,8,9 irons for eleven hybrids and its made a big difference in not only my golf but also in confidence. My driver G425 is fitted to me and i doubt many others could use it, also use a ping chipper now as well. Was told years ago by a Pro "Play your bag not your partners".
Hello Andy , thank you again for all your advice. Custom fitting is surely the way to go. But living in the country side makes a fitting a real challenge. And it is not guaranteed that the next near by club fitter will be the right one. So going for a serious upgrade would require a real exercise. But it might be the right move to have the perfect fit in the bag. 😊😊😊😊
Of course it’s not always an option and totally understand
Great advice as allways👍👍👍
Thanks again!
Before I saw the entire video, look into graphite shafts for your irons... All your other comments, your bang on. For golf balls, I will pay a premium for "truer" golf balls. Lessons are critical, trust me, I've had many and need more. Great video 🇨🇦🏴⛳
I play steel fiber shafts in my irons
Andy have you ever done a review of the Newton shaft?
Andy yet again another informative and entertaining video. Great advice which many golfer are aware of but need reminding of , and in a delivery that we never tire of. Keep it up Andy.
Much appreciate Mel 🙌
Great advice, Andy. Would love a follow up video on “10 Biggest Mistakes When Buying Golf Balls.”
I've not been fitted for any of my clubs but they've all been bought after a lot of consideration and research and to fit a particular place in the bag. Most of them bought 2nd hand too.
Evening andy, agree with everything you have said. Also find the right ball for your game sometimes a cheaper ball will work better than a more expesive one for the individual player. 👍
I absolutely agree about the ball, most golfers can’t get any performance out of premium balls
Fantastic advice. Dead on, no BS. You just gave any golfer who will listen about $1,000 worth of free advice, the best he or she will ever get. Love the “gruff uncle Andy” approach.
Glad you think so John 👍
I’ve been using 7-Gw hybrid irons all year. They’ve given me 20 extra yards. I’m 73 @ 10.8
Good for you bud 👏👏
Which is the most impressive - a shiny set of big name blades, or more appropriate clubs for your game and a lower handicap?
Whilst I totally agree about getting clubs to suit your game you said why if you have game improvement irons would you have bladed wedges. I used to play of 7 but advancing years has seen an increased handicap so need help with mid irons but my short game is still tidy so much prefer my RTX wedges to chunkier options. I carry 7 and 9 woods and my irons are 7,8,9
I love that last Bonus thought about Getting custom fit and not missing an opportunity for a better result.
Absolutely 👍
@@TheAverageGolferjust scheduled a retro fit for my G425 driver … irons are fitted.. now for the rest and stop guessing at it 🤙🏽⛳️🥃🇨🇦
I’ve been guilty of many of these mistakes especially the “any regular shaft will do” error. It’s a real problem though that custom fitting is only generally available for new and therefore very expensive clubs. I also think the quality of custom fitting varies hugely- my latest experience was at a large retailer and frankly the “fitter” knew about as much as I did!
You make valid points Michael
Thanks Andy!
I put an older Cleveland smart soul sand wedge back in the bag, I need an easy out
Great option
Harsh, Andy… I’ve got a PXG Allan putter in the bag at the minute so I’m not quite end to end Titleist… for now!
😂😂👍
Absolutely love this mate. Content like this is the exact reason why it’s the best golf channel on you tube. I’m a half decent player but the lowest iron I have is a 6 iron. I’m not good enough to have anything less. Some need to let go of their ego if they want to improve
Appreciate those comments mate 👍
I've just come back to golf after a 11 year break. Used to play off 6, now have an index of 18.
Need a whole new set, my wedges grooves have all but gone, my irons are Titleist DCI 762's from 2001(ish)
I've instead got a coach for the next 6 months minimum, have had 2 lessons so far, brought a new putter with more forgiveness and grinding each area of my game with what i'm learning before i invest.
Interesting you say about brand snobbery, i'm a Titleist snob of old, now using SEED balls but desperate to replace like for like with the latest Titleist, it never leaves you!
Beautiful course; Excellent advice!
Glad it was helpful!
Unfortunately in my area there are very few fitters and they are extremely expensive. It is also difficult to find any reviews on the few in the area as to whether they are worth the money. I agree that finding a competent fitter would be the best strategy.
@@ConnerTucker-p7u what do they charge? Anyone I have ever been custom fit by deducts the minimal fee from the clubs you purchase, if you choose not to buy it’s around £35
@ I’m in Southwestern Ontario Canada and you are correct the fitter will give you a discount on golf clubs if you purchase them. However the clubs are marked up to account for this. I ordered clubs on line from Gigagolf in Florida, they have an e-fit system to allow you to order custom clubs. You can choose shaft, grip size, length and lie angle based on your measurements/specifications. I purchased irons and they fit me well, the correct lie angle really made a difference. Even with the shipping and duty charges at the border they were less than half the price of name brand irons sold here.
@ Fitters charge over $200 Canadian.
two recommendations are at odds: buying used clubs and getting fit. I've found it difficult to find a fitter when there is not a sale of clubs involved.
I dont think they are, one refers to personal budget and the other clearly states.....'if you are buying NEW clubs' you should always get custom fit
Beautiful course.
Hi, I am Darren from Germany. With a height of 1.77 meters and a weight of 80 kilograms, I have an athletic and balanced physique, which gives me stability and control in my golf swing. Current I am playing the Wilson Launchpad 2 clubs at regular graphit shafts, and I achieve a consistent carry distance of 135 meters with my 7-iron.
I’m considering using one length irons set to the length of a 9-iron, since it’s my most reliable club. However, I’ve been advised by many that the shaft might be too short to achieve the distance that I need. Could this shorter length impact my performance, or could it still be a helpful setup for improving my consistency across LW - i5 irons?
Thx for your feedback!
You talk about stiff and regular shafts. At 72 I use a regular shaft in my driver and then senior shafts for 7 wood and irons. Wedges are steel shafted. Changing shafts has made a huge difference to my game. Now just need that new knee. 😂😂😂
Good luck with the knee !
Where did you get that top with the diagonal zip?
@@jonathanloader9321 PXG
What does fitting consist of? Is it finding the right brand of club for the person or does it mean bending a club (changing the lofts) to fit the individual’s swing. Also if I purchase a set of used clubs from a golf shop can I pay to be fitted? I guess you can tell I need help.
I think it's a reasonable question mate.
if you purchse clus from QUALIITY RETAILER, used , new or custom fit. that should be the start of a relationship. i play a set of custom fit Srixon Irons and Cleveland wedges. i take them to my sales erson / fitter and get the lie and lofte checked and dialled in a couple times per year. as an added bonus to your fitting once you have your new.. or new to you clubs in hand do a gapping session to educate yourself on the gaps between your irons. dial them in play bette golf!! Cheers, great Video ANDY
I think if you can afford it then fitting via a good fitter not just a salesman is the way forward. However not everyone can afford that and new clubs. So the second hand market is where they go. You can get a rough guide on the internet when putting in height swing speed grip and your natural miss. A friend of mine did it and also had a fitting the result was virtually the same.
I agree about budget but not about entering online details for custom fit, sorry
@TheAverageGolfer It was pretty basic. But the fact that it matched an actual fitting I thought was interesting ⛳
@ I’d say more luck than judgement, how does anyone establish their club head speed, angle of attack and how they load the shaft without launch monitor data?
Nice course you’re playing Andy - where is that?
Its Portal in Cheshire where we will be hosting a competition next year
#11 - Feel free to buy used clubs, but get them regripped. Then they're as good as new, and you don't have to worry about the first scuff.
Are you sponsored by pxg or that is your current everyday irons that’s in the bag
mmm . . . brand loyalty . . . I have a Titleist bag, glove, balls, driver, woods, irons, wedges, putter and key ring - i do however buy bamboo tees so clearly that brand loyalty OCD stuff clearly does not apply to me
😂😂
You need to change your channel name to "The bloody good golfer." 😂
Just had a nice new shiny set of t rails delivered. Like a fat girl, you don’t want to be seen with them but great fun.
Love those clubs
It helps to buy something you like the look of - a bit like dating!
What happens when it looks tired and worn out…..trade in for a new model?
Went back to the same old video tags. With big red and white notices. Remembee when you said going to do it all differently 😂 didnt last long
Yes I did and I wished it could be otherwise but unfortutely the market dictates and I can show you some alarming stats that show people watch these style of thumbnail and absolutely love click bait titles which everyone claims to hate, I dont have the finances to be a martyr and ignore these alarming stats
I've never been custom fitted, not properly anyway, for a couple of reasons. One, most golf retailers in my country seem to think that custom fitting means throwing a bunch of clubs at you and seeing what you hit best. They might measure your swing speed and tell you if they think you need stiff or regular. And that's it. Maybe they'll cut your irons shorter but they won't swing weight them afterwards. They probably won't check lie angles or launch angles.
Secondly they'll only do those things for clubs you're buying from them and they only sell brand new clubs. Brand new clubs are insanely expensive and not only can i not afford them, even if i could, I am not good enough at golf to justify spending thousands of dollars on new equipment.
I would love to be properly custom fit like some of the fittings I see on You Tube, but I go to my local retailers and I seem to know more about their clubs than they do.
You can just about fit yourself better using online research. I have a second hand driver (2016 M2), I've cut it shorter, reweighted it to D3, experimented to find the best loft sleeve setting, tried a few different shafts before settling on my current one, and I'm still yet to find anything at a retail store that performs better.
I'm in the same boat. I want to get better, am organising some lessons and suspect getting fitted might also help me.
But it would be premature for me to splash out of a set of new fitted clubs when I don't think I'm good enough to justify the cost, so will have to make do with a set of random clubs I bought off a mate 8 years ago for $300.
I would be really concerned by the quality of the custom fitters you have experienced so far
There is always a question of when is the right time and I dont think there is a right answer
Like any profession, fitters will always think of time spent versus money spent (even if the customer may only part with his money at a later, subsequent fitting). And less time spent is better in their minds. This is how the financial world works unfortunately.
@@zazhou I have to say it’s not something I personally experienced but I always worked with fitters who I had built a long time relationship with, so got to know the fitters, became a loyal customer etc.
Unfortunately many golfers will utilise the time and expertise of a fitter and then go online and purchase the product elsewhere which is why in some cases your suggestion about human nature works both ways
Buying on looks! This is one what makes me laugh! People not trying a certain club because of aesthetics! I’ve played with some of the ugliest clubs ever! Cleveland VAS, Ping Zing 2, but it didn’t bother me in the slightest as they worked for me!
Yes I am slightly guilty of this one
I feel like you made this video........just for me......😂😂😂
I know my audience 😂
Don’t be afraid of trying game improvement equipment. Discuss with a local pro.
absolutely
To call someone 'a lunatic' because they don't get custom fit, is actually very rude. A lot of people, me included, buy second hand because we can't afford new and thus no custom fit option.... we have to make an educated guess.
Get a life you fool, it’s a joke and if you take otherwise you have a serious problem
@TheAverageGolfer No, you meant it . . You're tone says it all.
@@TheAverageGolfer Oh really. First you call people like me lunatics for not having a custom fit, then you call me a fool , even though you were serious with your comment on custom fitting and now you call me a lunatic again... I love it when You-Tubers reveal their true arrogant nature. .... Still, one less subscriber for you to bother with now, you rectum.
He clearly states "when buying new". Clean your ears out and stop being so sensitive 😁
You can get custom fit for used clubs at many stores. I bought a used set from the sets available at the store and was able to hit a bunch of sets till I found one that suited me.
Great video and advice Andy worth the reminder! I always trust the fitter and the data the figures don’t lie. My fitter had fitted Nick Faldo and Tommy Fleetwood, I have total belief in my equipment. I remember many years ago when Srixon came to the club they couldn’t understand why the people playing as mid to high handicappers were playing cavity back irons but tour wedges and Pro V1. The number of fitters from the manufacturers have told me as a 15 handicapper stay away from tour balls.
Yep makes total sense to me, we need to recognise our ability to
Andy…you forgot the most important Rule of all…Rule Number 11…”Don’t always believe what you see & hear on You Tube!”…in the past you’ve been an advocate of ditching the 3-Wood, the 4-Iron, and the Lob Wedge…they are 3 of my favourite clubs and you don’t have to be a Pro to wield them to great effect
You also recommended we go out and buy shorter Driver shafts when all you need to do is choke down the grip an inch or two!
That said, I do enjoy watching your channel content, even if I don’t always heed your advice
PS…calling people ‘lunatics’ is likely to offend!
@@the2ironkid I don’t underestimate the ability for my audience to realise that an opinion is not a fact and you take from a video what you will.
PS…..Any viewer that gets offended by a tongue and cheek comment isn’t welcome quite honestly and need to get a sense of humour, this kind of comment is pathetic to be quite honest
@@TheAverageGolfer oh dear...did I touch a nerve?
All just common sense. But with golf, common sense goes out of the window.
It sure does
The biggest mistake is buying any clubs at all.
I wish the 'use irons that fit your handicap' myth would die. If you're off 20 and you three putt every hole how is that an indication you can't use real golf clubs like blades?
😂😂 ‘real’ golf clubs, do me a favour, can you be anymore condescending
@@TheAverageGolfer The game is completely different when played with blades. It's true golf. And modern blades aren't hard to hit at all from 7 iron to PW. There is no reason not to have at least a combo set. Most 'high handicap players' are fatting and thinning, missing short long and side to side, failing to get out of bunkers, horrendous short game, wayward off the tee, absolutely nothing to do with iron strike yet we pigeon hole them all into 'your handicap is high so you must not be able to hit an iron, here have a shovel that can't hold a green, that goes different distances whenever it feels like it, that allows you to hit it poorly but hey at least it still goes the same distance even though that distance was a massive slice'?
Do ME a favour. Anyone of any handicap should use blades at least in 7-PW.
The real reason massive irons exist is so they can sell 'tech' to people meaning new clubs every few years when the tech 'gets better'. Yet average handicap is the same now as it was when blades were the only option. Why would that be?
You clearly are a ‘real’ golfer 😂😂 Jesus these comment sections are hilarious, keep the entertainment coming 🍿
@@TheAverageGolfer I don't see anything that's hilarious. You're literally equating high handicap with poor iron striking which is ridiculous because of all the other stuff i mentioned. I'm off 18 and i 3 putt on average about 10 holes every round. I shouldn't use blades? If i improve my putting and 2 putt every hole, and improving my handicap by 10 strokes, i'll suddenly be able to use blades? You'd never tell someone in single figures not to use blades but in the scenario above literally the only variable that changed was my putting.
Come on, you know that doesn't make any sense at all. Just admit you are wrong and that suggesting clubs based on handicap is a very flawed approach.
@ my god your off 18 and feel in a position to offer up advice on the use of blades, I’m sorry bud but this is getting embarrassing, if you take some of my advice you will find the game will be more enjoyable and that handicap will come down……good luck and play well 👍
Most of these tips apply equally to choosing wives or girlfriends.