FAST LSXR INTAKE-IS IT WORTH $1000? HOW MUCH HP DOES IT ADD? LSXR VS CHEAP, JUNKYARD TRUCK INTAKE

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  • LOW-BUCK, CHEAP, JUNKYARD TRUCK INTAKE VS BIG BUCKS FAST LSXR! HOW MUCH POWER IS THE FAST LSXR INTAKE WORTH ON MY LS? SHOULD I BUY IT FOR MY STOCK 4.8L OR 5.3L? FAST VS TRUCK INTAKE-WHO WINS? HOW MUCH POWER IS THE INTAKE UPGRADE WORTH ON A MODIFIED LS MOTOR? HOW TO GAIN, 10 HP, 20 HP OR EVEN 30+ HP WITH AN INTAKE UPGRADE! HOW HARD IS THE FAST INTAKE TO INSTALL? CAN THE FIRST TIMER PERFORM AN INTAKE SWAP? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COMPARED THE FAST LSXR INTAKE AND 102-MM THROTTLE BODY TO THE STOCK (EARLY) TRUCK INTAKE (FROM THE JUNKYARD) AND MATCHING MANUAL THROTTLE BODY. HOW MUCH POWER WAS THE FAST INTAKE UPGRADE WORTH ON THE BTR-CAMMED 5.3L L33?
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  • @cryptoredneck8255
    @cryptoredneck8255 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Thank you for this test. This is almost identical to my Silverado. I just can't justify the money for a intake manifold. However who doesn't love the look of a aftermarket manifold.

  • @deankay4434
    @deankay4434 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So a modified 5.3L, $1,000 intake, $514 for throttle body, $398 for cam & lifters, you gain HP & torque = $633 per 3 hp, 42 lbs ft torque is very small gain! Got it.
    My 1,510 house is valued at $440.000 which includes a 10 X 12' shed is covered for $44,000. Makes sense to me to pay $428 per month on homeowners even though it hasn't grown larger! Since 92.
    Excise me while I throw up..

  • @baldo5097
    @baldo5097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the time and effort you put on these videos for is boss appreciate it.

  • @builditinyourgarage7826
    @builditinyourgarage7826 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yet another great comparison video. I believe this video is another example to show where to spend your money based on your end result of the combination you want to do.

  • @lucasmullins5100
    @lucasmullins5100 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Don't forget the Fast just looks nicer as well so more power, better looks and more room to grow made it worth while to me. I was guessing about 20 HP on my 5.3 with a cam.

  • @jr78racer
    @jr78racer ปีที่แล้ว +51

    My takeaway from the test is that you really have to be honest with yourself about how often you’re going to be above 5000 rpm. For vehicles that see 90% street time, I would argue it’s not worth it. Of course if you’re racing, the FAST is the way to go.

    • @blow0me
      @blow0me ปีที่แล้ว +4

      in this case, it's more a case that the stock intake/tb just isn't a huge restriction on the small 5.3. But it is equally impressive that the FAST intake loses nothing at the low end, so it is a win win for those who are seeking to grow further down the line

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even w/my 04 Z06 and 6 speed used as a toy.. I really don't go full throttle over 5500 rpms all that often. It's gotta be like less than 1% of the time. ANd due to traction.. its only in 2nd and 3rd gear when on the street.

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People spend more than $1k on wheels alone, that's nothing compared to a $1k intake upgrade thay actually offers performance.

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sepg5084 ya-but... that performance is only seen a few times. That is... unless your like I was when I was 16yrs old 😆

    • @loganrolling2536
      @loganrolling2536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My 03 Silverado sees over 5k very often lol

  • @genemounce8302
    @genemounce8302 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The faces you make bruh,. LMAO.. #priceless ! Merry Christmas to you and yours Rich.

  • @derrickbailey7681
    @derrickbailey7681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I been waiting on this

  • @benmclean2291
    @benmclean2291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another awesome video 👍👍

  • @gmontoya5307
    @gmontoya5307 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You are the man brother.... God bless for all that you do for your community... Love all your videos...

  • @debodang993
    @debodang993 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love all your videos on all vehicle platforms

  • @BigHeinen
    @BigHeinen ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Same takeaway I came up with. For a street rod or street truck application you will rarely see over 4500RPM anyway. In this test there was virtually no difference in HP or torque clear to 5,000. That $1,000+ will go a long way in other areas of your project build. Just my opinion and as always YMMV.

  • @timscroggins2345
    @timscroggins2345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great show sir

  • @simpleman2004
    @simpleman2004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cut the mounting tabs off of a stock truck fuel rail and made some brackets to hold the rails down, LS7 injectors with spacers.

  • @jimmyford271
    @jimmyford271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watching your videos they make want to try new things on my Challenger. Richard I would love to see this test done with the gen 3 hemi and eagle heads running comps 201-428-17 cam to compare the Charger/ Challenger intake to the Holley intake.

  • @ttsupra87
    @ttsupra87 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Literally just went full bore heads, cams, 102mm intake could weeks back. Looks like it was a good choice. Thanks for the test and all your hard work man!

    • @boost1728
      @boost1728 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Multiple cam LS? Interesting

    • @UBeesh10
      @UBeesh10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cams lol

  • @bobbywilliams5657
    @bobbywilliams5657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks to you Richard I don't have to invest my money into an intake I will keep my stock I heard you saying one of your videos you didn't know how deep lake Tahoe 1,644ft
    👍

  • @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
    @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great test... This shows it'll shine up top and not kill street manners. And if it's not going to live in the upper RPMs, then it's not necessary...
    That's where a good TBSS intake would shine great at.
    This intake would definitely be great on a bigger motor with good flowing heads as well. But then you get to the point of, when do you just go turbo and keep it more budget friendly. 😁

  • @gofastparts4u
    @gofastparts4u ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's too bad the price of the Dorman LS2 skyrocketed. If I recall correctly, it made damn good power, not quite what the FAST makes, but close enough considering the cost, at the time anyway. Now they're almost as expensive as this intake if you can even find one.

    • @vans1107
      @vans1107 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      if you've got this engine in a truck you would be better off going with a NBSS/TBSS intake, much cheaper than the dorman LS2 and makes the same power. In fact there's really no point in even considering the Dorman anymore since the price is over a grand now..if you're spending that much you might as well spend the extra couple hundred and buy the significantly better FAST 102.

    • @Turbogto_guy
      @Turbogto_guy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damn. I could make money on my dorman. I bought one early on. Think I paid under $300. Anything more than that is a ripoff. It’s really a piece of shit.

    • @lik_2x435
      @lik_2x435 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A

  • @Long-nd8bq
    @Long-nd8bq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wouldn't spend the money on the TB, Intake, and Fuel rails until you already maximized your combo with cam, valve springs, converters, gears, tune. Doing this intake/tb/fuel rail on a mostly stock setup that maybe only has headers and a y-pipe this would be money well spent elsewhere and you'd get gapped by a cammed truck or one with a higher stall converter. This would be a good upgrade if you already have the other stuff and just want a little more out of your combo, but I'd probably get a set of ported heads and swap it all on at the same time. Also, can get good gains from a TBSS / later model truck intake swap and you can find those in a junkyard and get it for under $100 if you can find one and remove it yourself.

  • @cndctrdjful
    @cndctrdjful 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've got a 5.3 in my 84 camaro. The stock truck intake doesn't fit well under the stock hood.
    This intake fits great, also the power gain doesn't hurt. Since this is a track car, the high rpms are where it likes to live

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A grand for gains only over 5150? Yeah, nah. Not for a daily.
    Thanks again Richard. Giving us the best info in where to spend our hard earned monies.

  • @dresdensvo
    @dresdensvo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also never shown on a dyno graph is Looks and Hood clerance . But the dorman Ls6 does that . If it ever goes back into mass production .

  • @btchhopperou812
    @btchhopperou812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kind of had an idea where this was going to go because my son swapped out the truck manifold for a fast manifold and the results are very similar. One thing I believe I noticed, or maybe it was in my head, but did anyone else seem to observe the fast manifold and larger throttle body made it louder? Perhaps it was just me or varying placement of the microphone or did I observe the setup becoming louder with the fast? No big deal either way as most people really don't mind a little bit of extra noise if the performance is increased as advertised. Thanks for the test Richard!

  • @JustChuck
    @JustChuck ปีที่แล้ว +16

    TBSS intake would have been an interesting comparison.

    • @r3d1911
      @r3d1911 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eeexxxaaactly what I was thinking

    • @moabman6803
      @moabman6803 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has done that already in another video

    • @DeathStalkerAlpha
      @DeathStalkerAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The 2007-14 NBS truck manifold is the same as the TBSS manifold.

    • @chriswise1232
      @chriswise1232 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then port the TBSS

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean Gen 4 Truck Intake

  • @johnsheetz6639
    @johnsheetz6639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I say a LS 3 style manifold has major benefits if you want to keep your old hood in some of the lower profile hoods

  • @scotttimpany2845
    @scotttimpany2845 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blaster! Since 1957. Master Blaster since July 1985

  • @chrishansen7004
    @chrishansen7004 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seems like this manifold would be better spent on a 6.0 or a 5.3 punched out too a 5.7 where there would be a bigger requirement for more air volume and flow, a tbss is still the best manifold for a 5.3, considering that you can get ls1 pistons from summit racing for 800 bucks Canadian your money is way better spent increasing your displacement and getting the manifold later

  • @bertmorlas3534
    @bertmorlas3534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always a good dyno day when you see Richards Grrrr face

  • @BobbyD75
    @BobbyD75 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    $2000 + for 30 hp just turbo it . Love your work . Thank you saves people tons of money and work .

    • @james10739
      @james10739 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is it $2000 I thought he said it was $1000 which is about what I have seen

    • @BobbyD75
      @BobbyD75 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      1200 for the intake all new gaskets tuning and all the extras to add the intake

  • @martygrajeda3457
    @martygrajeda3457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fast is definitely worth it!

  • @ianb3866
    @ianb3866 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    make a video about the 300-500 dollar intakes on Ebay and JEGS

  • @toddclark332
    @toddclark332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Richard have a fantastic Christmas buddy see you 😁💙♥️

  • @wydopnthrtl
    @wydopnthrtl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the vid & reporting!
    The more of these I watch... I just keep thinking my 04Z06 would do best by keeping it stock and adding a centrifugal blower. The bottom end TQ will only increase and the top end will greatly increase.

  • @Mattvardaman
    @Mattvardaman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fast manifold at $1000 is $41.66/hp for 24hp. Nitrous is about $350-500 for 125/200hp. I don’t have the budget for the fast. I’ve just recently started welding so I can make my own aluminized mild steel turbo kit. I drive a truck with cam, springs, and long tube headers on e85.

  • @TexasStormHunter
    @TexasStormHunter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, you definitely should have included the gen4/tbss intake in the test though.

    • @allanb3222
      @allanb3222 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has done that test already, in his previous videos.

    • @TexasStormHunter
      @TexasStormHunter ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allanb3222 on a more heavily modified 6.0. It's not exactly the same.

    • @allanb3222
      @allanb3222 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TexasStormHunter He did it on a 5.3 as well.

  • @smiller225
    @smiller225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2016 and 2017 mustang gt injectors fit a fast manifold and rail with just a o ring change

  • @matthewneil2987
    @matthewneil2987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm assuming it would be even more of a gain on similar build 6.0 litre.
    I'd like to see if a heatshield under the manifold would make a difference like the internet says it is

  • @DM-qp7do
    @DM-qp7do ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm 🤔since I am porting my heads along with a cam and headers.....🤔 YUP!!! SOLD👍🏁🏁🏁🏁

  • @THEFERMANATOR
    @THEFERMANATOR ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would have liked to have seen the tbss/gen iv intake thrown in to the mix. I considered a lsxrt intake, but you can pick up an lh6 out of a trailblazer cheap with a bad cam, and you get a set of 799 heads, tbss intake, and resell the aluminum 5.3l short block to get most of your money back making the heads and intake almost free.

    • @wheelbasemedia5814
      @wheelbasemedia5814 ปีที่แล้ว

      That test like that exists on his channel, although it's from a few years ago and on a 6.0. th-cam.com/video/a2M10LiwE7Q/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RichardHoldener

    • @THEFERMANATOR
      @THEFERMANATOR ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wheelbasemedia5814 I've seen that test, but as you pointed out, that was a 6.0l, and one that is more heavily modded than most go. It would have been nice to have seen the tbss thrown in to the mix on a cam only 5.3l like so many like myself are doing.

  • @slows102
    @slows102 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fast might only make 10hp more than tbss intake, and they can be had for $200

  • @bluecollarhotrods9781
    @bluecollarhotrods9781 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So glad that you talked about the timing and fuel adjustments. Great test once again. You're actually the person who talked me into a FAST LSXRT through your videos.
    However, now I am on the fence... do I use my ported cathedral port heads and FAST LSXRT? Or use my recently acquired LS3 heads with a rec port truck intake? I'm pretty sure I could sell the PRC Stg 2.5s and FAST pretty easily. Regardless of what I use, I'll be buying a camshaft - so that is a wash.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if you have ported cath heads-keep those with a fast

    • @bluecollarhotrods9781
      @bluecollarhotrods9781 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 I do, they are PRC Stg 2.5 ported 706/862 castings.

    • @baby-sharkgto4902
      @baby-sharkgto4902 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cathedral gang!!! That fast is a baaad unit. Yes I bought a new one but I understand it’s not for everyone. Thanks Richard

    • @bluecollarhotrods9781
      @bluecollarhotrods9781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@baby-sharkgto4902 I bought a new one as well, got a crackhead deal on it. It was hard to say no.

    • @baby-sharkgto4902
      @baby-sharkgto4902 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluecollarhotrods9781 nice! They work great

  • @robertharper8709
    @robertharper8709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with the others, it's not needed for that build. Your not racing cammed a truck on a track, and if a cammed 5.3L is going in your project car, a wet nitrous kit would be alot better hp/$ for the occasional drag racing.

  • @seanbragg1696
    @seanbragg1696 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like I said before intake mods make more power now a 6pack ported TBIs is in order think the magic gain will be in the 40hp range n/a and better coil near plug

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what is a 6 pack ported tbi?

    • @seanbragg1696
      @seanbragg1696 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 TBIs with butterfly porting so they match and are flowing better than stock and venturi effect

  • @randyrichardson4364
    @randyrichardson4364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    was hoping for the early truck intake AND the tbss intake vs the fast lsxr.

  • @oxycopium
    @oxycopium 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If i had a deal on a i take instead of 1500 it was 500 maybe. But at that price i would just save a little nore and get a twin turbo kit for 3600.

  • @chipcurrey653
    @chipcurrey653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please test vband versus t4 exhaust housing....like VS racing .96 t4 against .96 v band. Matt happel made a comment on a recent video that v band makes greatly reduced power due to reduced compressor housing volume

  • @richardkamowski4656
    @richardkamowski4656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a fast 102 on my boosted 383 ls , great intake but it kept leaking water, ended replacing it with a btr intake ,

    • @jhawkins886
      @jhawkins886 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leaking water? How

  • @natricjol
    @natricjol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truck intake < TBSS (NNBS) intake < LSXRT
    Truck intake will be good for most people. LSXRT is for people pushing the limits of their build. TBSS will increase power across the room range and increase the efficiency of the mods that were already completed and give you most of the gains from the LSXRT without the cost.

  • @marcs8563
    @marcs8563 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Be interesting to see the results on a 6.0 or 6.2 with a truck manifold vs the lsxrt manifold

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LSXRT MAKES THE SAME POWER AS LSXR-SEE THE BIG INTAKE TEST VIDEO (RUN ON A 6.0L)

    • @button-puncher
      @button-puncher ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 Is it essentially that same intake manifold? Same runner length? Just different TB locations to clear the belt drive in each application?

  • @joshuacoomes6388
    @joshuacoomes6388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ever test the stock smaller throttle body on something like this or the TBSS just to see what happens? It would be nice to see if there is a loss of power between the two since it is expensive to go with an aftermarket throttle body or OBD Link adapter harness.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the stock tbss tb is dbw

    • @joshuacoomes6388
      @joshuacoomes6388 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardholdener1727 I know. I meant that the 3 and 4 bolt throttle bodies aren't electrically interchangeable and require an X-Link to make them work. The DBC guys have to run an cheap adapter or an expensive aftermarket throttle body with known Idle issues. I am going to run the TBSS manifold on my 03 6.0 w/ DBW, and use the 3 to 4 bolt adapter. I am just curious if there is HP left on the table with the stock, smaller throttle body. Thanks for the reply.

  • @polishedturdspeedshop
    @polishedturdspeedshop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am starting to say WAAAAAA watching other videos, and scoffing with a WRONG CAM outloud when I see a build that looks silly....so i guess thanks Richard? ;)

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ever tried a edelbrock cross ram on one of these using the adapters? I know that manifold has done very well in all the testing I have seen of it. I wondered if the transitions of shape really hurt it that bad.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      YES-THOSE TESTS ARE UP-BUT THAT INTAKE WAS FOR A REC-PORT HEAD-SEE THE LS3 INTAKE TEST VIDEO

    • @bcbloc02
      @bcbloc02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardholdener1727 Yes I have seen your testing with it before, was just wondeing if you had ever run one adapted back to the old engines to see if it still worked well or if the adapting killed its performance.

  • @steezyg35
    @steezyg35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So is there a better looking option over the stock ones that achieves the same power?

  • @turbhoeheflin1168
    @turbhoeheflin1168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m sure it’s been said, but I really wish you could have done a Tbss manifold with same throttle body.

  • @dailydrivenmuscle.
    @dailydrivenmuscle. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just use spacers with stock fuel rail.

  • @seanb250
    @seanb250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My take away is that again cfm demand has told the story, the Fast manifold was more efficient in letting the heads flow their potential with the given lift of the camshaft 👍

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      you spelled intake design and reflected wave incorrectly

    • @seanb250
      @seanb250 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 no I didn’t, it’s spelt “efficient” 🤷‍♂️

  • @dailydrivenmuscle.
    @dailydrivenmuscle. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Richard..I have a test you could do that no one has ever done. FAST 102..mixed with Long and Mid range Runners... would take a little modification but would be very interesting

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      already did that test

    • @dailydrivenmuscle.
      @dailydrivenmuscle. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 Fast 102 mixed with Mid and Long has not been done. I believe you did the Carbon TA one. Just an Idea.

  • @blindguygarage
    @blindguygarage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have some sort of ported heads on a 5-3 truck intake still working on getting HP tuner to fix the tune has a BTR stage 3 camshaft do you have a video with the fast intake on that setup something with upgraded heads and intake but not Pistons bottom end all that kind of stuff. This build is going to definitely be stages my next major purchase if any would be the Trailblazer SS setup flex fuel unless you say that's not worth it before a turbo

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      this was a cammed 5.3L with a fast-both numbers would be up slightly with properly ported heads

    • @blindguygarage
      @blindguygarage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 I guess then what would be your expectations of a good tune on a 5-3 with properly ported heads the stage 3 Brian Tilley Truck cam and stock injectors fuel pump air intake I was thinking ones properly tuned 450 crank 300 wheel? 2500 stall converter stage one 4l60 GM performance. Shorty headers okay let the converters.

  • @kyleorsak
    @kyleorsak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    id like to see the fast lsxr vs the new holley ultra low ram. i know they tested all the holley intakes with each other the the ultra low ram wasnt too bad compared to the high ram. i have a stock hood i want to clear so its either a fast intake or the ultra low ram

    • @Cowboy.underwater
      @Cowboy.underwater ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless you plan on shifting well past 8,000 RPM, The fast manifold will have a WAY better power curve than the low ram.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      a low ram won't even be close-til very high rpm (above 7000)

  • @Kaus5221
    @Kaus5221 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    High tech steam vent delete!

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to go back to your old cathedral port intake manifold test and see how badly the TBSS manifold beats the gen 3 truck manifold... And then there's the topic of how much is the throttle body worth in this power range/how big of a TB can you fit on a TBSS manifold with a bit of porting, or a reasonable adapter..

    • @DeathStalkerAlpha
      @DeathStalkerAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the Gen 3 truck manifold was 78mm and the Gen 4 truck manifold 87mm. You can fit a ls2 or LS3/7 90mm (some say it's 92mm after porting) throttle body depending on what color blade you have silver blade 07-08 or gold blade 09-14

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of time and money just to get the Gen 4 intake to work on a Gen 3 truck.

    • @tptrsn
      @tptrsn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowopsairman1583 It has nothing to do with a truck for me.

    • @tptrsn
      @tptrsn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DeathStalkerAlpha Interesting, thanks!

  • @trevermonk8575
    @trevermonk8575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have been cool to see it with the nbss/tbss intake, I'm sure you've done the test in some shape or form

    • @chandlerlofton6536
      @chandlerlofton6536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, I have a ported TBSS on my 408, and I wonder what I’m leaving on the table.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      WATCH THE BIG CATH INTAKE TEST VIDEO

    • @trevermonk8575
      @trevermonk8575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 sorry i should have said that you've probably shown us that test in the past. thanks!

  • @DSRE535
    @DSRE535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That throttle body looked ported on the stock truck intake, I know because mine looked very similar, who knows if it’s worth power

  • @MrMechanicandy
    @MrMechanicandy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t find much info on the 5.3 ls in impala ss on its intake do you have any idea if it cathedral and what kind of power loss you get using it thanks great show by the way .

  • @speedtweaked2540
    @speedtweaked2540 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you done a test with running a 78 vs 87 vs 90 vs 92 vs 102mm (or some combination) of throttle body’s on that Fast intake. I’d be curious if say you swapped from a TBSS to a Fast and could save some coin by running the factory TB if going to the 102 wasn’t necessary to maximize your application.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      THE SMALLER TB WOULD BE FINE FOR MANY APPLICATIONS-LIKE THIS 5.3L

  • @coboscustoms4342
    @coboscustoms4342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was really hoping you would have thrown in an overlay of the tbss manifold with those two

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      usually more than truck but less than fast

    • @coboscustoms4342
      @coboscustoms4342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 yeah I understand that. Anything smaller than a 6.0 I tell everybody not to even bother changing the manifold unless they have a massive cam

  • @88RSI
    @88RSI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was the gains for the valve train & cam upgrade and at what cost? How much would a shop charge to do a cam swap?

  • @jeffpistritto9524
    @jeffpistritto9524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever done a traditional old school roots blower on gen3 hemi ? Maybe vs other superchargers / blowers

  • @jimreal3840
    @jimreal3840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any difference w no air filters,to having one....

  • @Justls1v8parts
    @Justls1v8parts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Morning Richard
    On my 5.7ls1 would a tbss truck manifold work height is not an issue hood wise.
    From your videos the tbss is better than the ls6?.
    What is the throttle body size also on the tbss.
    Thank-you
    Aaron.

  • @thinkingmanhillbilly
    @thinkingmanhillbilly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the biggest throttle body you can fit on the truck manifold can you open it up and put a bigger one on it I wonder how much difference there would be then

    • @DeathStalkerAlpha
      @DeathStalkerAlpha ปีที่แล้ว

      90mm off the Corvettes LS2 silver blade and LS3/7 gold blade I haven't seen much gains on anyone that's done it, just quicker response.

  • @Harris715
    @Harris715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know Richard tested a 102 vs 92 throttle body on a FAST 102 intake, but I’m curious what the difference is between a FAST 92 and FAST 102 intake. I’ve only been able to find tests comparing the old FAST 78 and the FAST 102. The only reason I care is because it’s my understanding that my stock LS1 fuel rails will bolt up to the FAST 92, but I will need LS2 rails with the FAST 102.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      I HAVE A VIDEO UP ON 92 VS 102

    • @Harris715
      @Harris715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardholdener1727 I guess I’m no good at Google or something. th-cam.com/video/ZO6iQRes74E/w-d-xo.html This is the only 92 vs 102 video of yours I can find which, when I wrote my comment last night, I thought you had run on a FAST 102 intake. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction for a FAST 92 intake test?

  • @kalui96
    @kalui96 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder if shaving all the extra stuff growing out of the Truck Intake would make it look cool

    • @Borderline5440
      @Borderline5440 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It does not. Shaved truck intakes look like ass.

  • @detroitamerson
    @detroitamerson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is not a TBSS style intake. The later model TBSS or Dorman of it Richard has proven is a better intake than the old style one. Id like to see that test against the Fast one

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PLEASE SEE THE MANY TBSS INTAKE TESTS (EVEN 1 VIDEO WITH FAST VS TBSS VS TRUCK)

  • @Turbogto_guy
    @Turbogto_guy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couple questions if you don’t mind. How much tq does this cam lose over stock around 3000-3500rpm? Any idea what rpm it would idle at and the vacuum at idle? My son has a super clean awd 2004 Silverado regular cab 5.3 and we are trying to decide on cam. The FTI stall I just put in is rated at 3200 and will stall 3500 in 4wd on the foot brake. Truck leaves hard as hell, he has race star drag wheels on it. It’s a stop light terror but needs more power. Stock cam right now.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      it does lose power below 3500 (25 lb-ft), a better choice would be the BTR Hot Rod cam

  • @joeyskarbonkiewicz4092
    @joeyskarbonkiewicz4092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Curious how the lsxr compares to the lsxrt under na applications and boosted applications.

  • @sambert96
    @sambert96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I gained 45 to the wheels on my old heads cam 5.7 build switching from a ls1 intake to the fast. Big gains. The square port one isn't worth it. Only buy it if you have cathedral heads

    • @gofastparts4u
      @gofastparts4u ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The original LS1 intake sucks. The only thing worse is the LS4. A stock early truck intake blows the LS1 intake out of the water.

    • @sambert96
      @sambert96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @gofastparts4u agree. I didn't believe it was worth 1200$ but it sure was. It's now on my 383 making 570 to the wheels

  • @jrrivers4140
    @jrrivers4140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trying to decide on a rod mod and ported tb. Or just taking it in the bank and getting a fast 102 and tb. Bolt on ls2 with a Norris cam made 438 wheel 480tq

  • @C6Z_Bob
    @C6Z_Bob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With bigger displacement, a bigger cam, and better cylinder heads, it's well worth it IMO. My heads/cam/intake 5.7 beat up on a lot of cars that didn't expect it

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 ปีที่แล้ว

      Start with a Truck Norris cam and go from there. Just to go from a Gen 3 to Gen 4 Truck intake is a lot of time and money.

  • @rene7500
    @rene7500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 5.3 lm7 with TSP 216/220 stage 3 camshaft. 1 7/8 long tube headers that turn into 3 inch exhaust straight out to the back bumper. LS7 lifters and springs kit and a new oil pump...K &N filter of course With a custom tune from the shop that I had do the install. I am asking for your advice on what size LSXRT intake I should get. What's the best combo for what I currently have done on my truck. I know there is a sweet spot between to much air flow and a little restriction. Your the master bro! Tell me what's up. And also if I do the LSXRT install myself will it need to be re-tuned? Should I also get a new fuel rail and injectors if there is a kit that LSxRT comes with ?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the lsxr or rt version make the same power-get the 102mm version

    • @rene7500
      @rene7500 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 thank you!

    • @ricksmash8080
      @ricksmash8080 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardholdener1727same question but I have the stage 2 cam, and I haul a trailer. What intake will give me the best low end torque? And if a new manifold isn’t the best way to do it what is? Thanks for these videos Richard!

  • @myfastcars
    @myfastcars ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If, you hand ported the stock truck intake, would that close the FAST Intake increase gap????

  • @dforest8539
    @dforest8539 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm looking for a efi ls3 duel plain intake.. I want the torque power

    • @TexasStormHunter
      @TexasStormHunter ปีที่แล้ว

      The truck manifold will make more torque than a dual plane.

  • @mikeing3924
    @mikeing3924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How would the truck intake do with a larger throttle body? If you could get close to the one on the fast intake you could possibly get +24 or more.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      the throttle body size is not why the Fast intake made more power

    • @mikeing3924
      @mikeing3924 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 no doubt and better hood clearance. That truck manifold isn't very attractive next to the fast intake. A larger throttle body would definitely help the truck intake if it would fit on it.

  • @scottbarrera6860
    @scottbarrera6860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking for a intake manifold for my Sierra 2500hd which one would you recommend

  • @J.Steele7
    @J.Steele7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Richard I’ll try to catch you in a live but I need someone smarter than me to answer this pondering thought. In a bbc tall deck block could I use a 3.76 stroke with a very long rod would this be counter intuitive? I’m looking at a 477 4.5 bore 3.76 stroke. I know valve train is the limit to rpm but I want to eliminate any detriment to engine speed.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT-ESPECIALLY WITH A 3.76 STROKE

    • @J.Steele7
      @J.Steele7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 too short of stroke for a tall deck? Or the short stroke doesn’t help

  • @methodical_66
    @methodical_66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doesn't the lsxr require that a hole be drilled for the MAP sensor?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      IT HAS THAT PROVISION, BUT WE JUST USED ONE OF THE NIPPLES

  • @judahdolph9622
    @judahdolph9622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what was the water pump your using in this video?

  • @DStout92
    @DStout92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What did you figure for the lsxr102 manifold volume?

  • @sstevocamaro
    @sstevocamaro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How much is the TBSS intake worth over the “older” truck intake?

  • @yslrichieee3445
    @yslrichieee3445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im looking to put this on my 2007-13 model silverado 4.8, but its not driven by wire throttle body. Can i still put the fast big mouth throttle body on it with no cable and would it work?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      you would need a dbw throttle body -but I don't recommend the FAST on the smaller 4.8L, unless you have lots of mods

  • @n2oracer84
    @n2oracer84 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How would an LS6 intake with ported throttle body fair in this comparison?

    • @goat_life254
      @goat_life254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly what I want to know. I have the ls6 on my 04 gto and if it’s over 20hp gain that’s worth it.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ls6 should be like or just below tbss-so between these two

  • @dondotterer24
    @dondotterer24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you get a carburetor application match the Fast?

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait until we can 3D print an intake manifold. I understand R&D costs but how FAST charges a grand for an injection molded piece of plastic seems insane to me. If they charged four hundred they'd sell three times as many and make more money.

  • @Codizz88
    @Codizz88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sooo which runners were you running in the fast then? I'd assume long runners.

  • @Dooguy
    @Dooguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so im middle of the road herer.....having a pretty decent texas cam, with ls6 intake,long tubes in a manual BUT stock 243 heads. Would i be wasting money going to the 102? or would or should do head work along with the intake swap?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      LS6 INTAKE WON'T ACCEPT A 102 TB

    • @Dooguy
      @Dooguy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727i understand that, just asking if i went all in with the upgrade intake and TB , would it be a waste of money with stock 243's thanks

  • @Chips_213
    @Chips_213 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Test the $60 ls intake manifold from eBay it’s a truck intake manifold looks like the truck dorman one

  • @benjaminwillard2394
    @benjaminwillard2394 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    start at 10 minutes and 45 seconds

  • @evilinside5984
    @evilinside5984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I noticed when tb was open all the way @ 5:11 into video, @ 5:14 closes slightly, and stays there, have you noticed this, or does that cause variations/power loses?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว

      you are seeing things

    • @evilinside5984
      @evilinside5984 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 Yes, Im seeing things that are actually happening. Did you go back and watch this same video, @ the times i previously mentioned? You did not see the angle change to the throttle body blade? Please take a closer look, between 5:11 and 5:15 into this video. I just showed someone else, and they seen the throttle body blade change its angle aswell.

  • @harborspeedtv7100
    @harborspeedtv7100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will this fit on my 2010 Tahoe ffv