I know this video is old but thank you for this video because this watch I was browsing on Amazon and they were promoting them on Amazon and then I found your video so thank you for this video
Great video!!!!! I think Steinhart and Squale make amazing watches for the money....I have both and Pagani too... plus I own several Rolexes, Omegas, Cartiers and more...I just like watches... don't be snob ...buy what you like is my motto
The Autavia homage looks awesome! Would love to have it, so far i only have a Tevise sub homage haha(I'm a student) , just to have a bit of taste of watches in general.
To be fair, if you put a Rollie under a macro lens, some of these imperfections appear as well. For instance, they're really bad about stray paint on the GMT hand. If you could do a video on how to realign a date wheel, I would be forever grateful. My PD-1617 is badly off center in the date window. It seems like something that could be dead simple or really tricky.
Yeah, I've seen that before with the GMTs, but generally they do alright. It's hard to not find occasional faults in most brands with a good macro lens though. One exception might be Grand Seiko haha.
Hey, Brian. Thanks for this video. I bought the PD 1651 for my dad, and he really likes it. It had the same misaligned bezel, so I’ll be looking for your video on realigning bezels. I’m also a new subscriber. I just got the handwound Vario Empire and came across your movement replacement/watch review video. Really interesting. Thanks for doing these videos, and I’ll be sure to try and take that Autavia copy off your hands. Take care, man.
Thank you for that , I have the same clasp as the 1651 on another PD watch it’s an absolute bugger to move the micro adjust , it’s made me think if I got a 1651 I’d discard the bracelet , so interesting you were content with it . I think the pressed steel clasps that all the reviewers knock on Addiesdive watches are more than adequate , I never look at the clasp but each to his own .
Idk, I've always been ok with the bracelet on this one, but not on most of the other PDs I've tried. I usually change out the strap for something leather on the dressy models or rubber on the dive models.
To be fair, I had to return a Citizen watch because the chronograph secondhand wouldn't hit the markers. When I returned it, the new one they gave me also didn't hit the markers, so I gave that one back, and they kept looking till they finally found one that did. My Seiko 5 has a little rust spot under the glass on the dial? Wtf. I've seen macro shots of way more expensive watches that also have dust inside like the grand seiko and rolex. Usually, you get what you pay for, but in my opinion, pagani design gives you more than you pay for.
Great review! New sub. I got a PD “Yachty” I look forward to the bezel fix vid as I have the same issue. I would be interested in trying on the Autavia. ;)
So, Pagani Design watches are not perfect! Well, as you said yourself; "for the price", they're dammed perfect enough for me. I have a couple of them, and I am more than happy to continue my homage collection through them...because here, I can afford it.
Though I don't show any custom watches in this video, for my own builds I source cases from a variety of channels such as Ofrei, eBay (and some chinese manufacturers), b-line, sk-watchparts, amongst others.
@@WatchComplications thank you for your answer, i know you didnt show any in this video, but i have been watching your videos and content for a while now, and i really enjoy your videos :)
Haha true. Well I waited several months for my Rolex only to be told it wasn't coming, so I went after-market when a fair deal came along. There's certainly a difference in quality level between the two, from the case to the movement, but I wouldn't characterize it as a 10,900$ difference :)
I ordered a pagani NTTD Omega Homage on OCT 20TH 2020 AND 70 DAYS LATER STILL NO WATCH. It disappeared for 6 weeks after leaving or being scanned in Singapore. I got a Ping on Tracking DECEMBER 9th NY NY ISC SORTING CENTER. And there it has sat ever since . The Case closes in 21 or 22 days. I don't know if it got stolen in the sorting center. Anyway I ordered another similar with similar specs from Bliger NH35 Sapphire .73.50 with a mesh. I paid for Fedex Shipping on this one. The Trendy Men Store don't even offer Feedex which is where I bought the Pagani.
Mine took a couple months, so it's not abnormal to be waiting around for these things, and for them to get lost in transit from time-to-time. And I expect it could be sitting in customs a bit with the holiday season backlog amongst other things (e.g., covid). I got mine straight from the AliExpress store.
I haven’t tried the Parnis, so I can’t give a comparison opinion. What I can say is that so far I am quite entertained by the Pagani. It is comfortable and functional.
I just received a 1649 that I ordered around the time this vidoe came out. This one had a unidirectional bezel on it while yours had a bi directional bezel. The bezel and chapter rings seem to be spot on while the numbers on the dial don't seem to be as crisp on the one you received. I think you might find little differences like these as well. The bracelet is definitely not the best. The edges are pretty sharp, wich makes it a bit uncomfortable.
That's a little odd about the bezel, haha. The bezel was fine on mine, seemed like something on the dial was off a tad. The bracelet on the PD-1651 was so much better. As you say the one with the 1649 has sharp edges and such. Thanks for watching!
Thats the problem with homage watches. They get the good and the bad. Autavia looks fantastic then you see the 42mm size and say not for me. Same goes for the homage then.
I do not understand the hate for homage watches. The existance of a less expensive alternative doesn't diminish the prestige, history, glamour or glory of the original. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then having a watch design transcend a nameplate and become a template, an archetype, of a style is a tremendous compliment. Also, watch guys kvetch endlessly about homage watches but wear homage clothes without batting an eye. Do they only wear oxford cloth button downs from Brooks Brothers? Do they only wear waxed cotton jackets from Barbour? Do they only wear penny loafers from GH Bass? Sure as shit they don't think about these things. Inconsistent, two-faced, contradictory, incongruous, hypocritical watch snobs.
Not sure if you are suggesting I hate homage watches or if you are just venting generally about people who hate them. I actually really like the PD-1651, basically a Yacht-Master copy, and already put the blue hand on it. In the vid I simply say I’m not a huge fan of “heavy” homage watches, but some people are, and to each their own. They at least let a person give a test run for a design.
@@WatchComplications It was much more of a vent than something directed at you specifically. You have a reasonable stance on the topic and seem to use these watches more as a chance to tinker as much as anything else. This is more of a philosophical question. What is the harm in even a 1:1 direct copy with a different logo on the dial? Hard liners don't seem to have a thought out reason for their stance despite being the loudest, most opinionated and staunchest in their belief.
I do use them for tinkering and personal entertainment for the most part. As for direct copies minus the logo...personally, I have a natural care for intellectual property, perhaps somewhat due to my profession and projects. Direct copy isn’t allowed for books, photos, materials, software, etc. Will copies, reinterpretations, and such always happen, yes. Is what it is. With regard to watches, I just try my best to evaluate them for what they are. And the PD-1651 makes a great beater.
liked and subscribed. outstanding review of two watches i'm waiting to receive. if you can get by the "homage" debate, these give you the chance of a preview of the basics of the real watch.
I might add 2 comments. If you don't like the cyclops (many Rolex have them as you know). My Pagani watches with the Sieko movement is MORE accurate than my real Rolex! The "Daytona" (non mechanical but a quartz Sieko movement is running 2 sec fast A WEEK! I like knockin around with a watch that I can throw away if it breaks than having 5 to 6 grand on my wrist to worry about when doing daily stuff!
It's a $100 watch, they aren't going to put that much time into it. It's certainly not a yachtmaster-style case, but for the price, I just can't argue for what you get out of it. It's comfortable, accurate, and reasonably spec'd. Perhaps if they trimmed the case down then it would be even better, but then it'd probably be best to just buy a yachty ;)
May want to be careful referring to copies/homages by the brand names of the originals (Autavia, TAG, Yachtmaster, etc.). Gary @ I Like Watches lost his channel due to that.
I appreciate the sentiment, but I repeatedly comment that these are copies of those brands, for example a “Yachtmaster copy” which is what it is. Probably good to keep making that clear. I could see how if someone was repeatedly calling them the original brand name or model name it would be an issue, but I don’t believe I give that impression at all. Usually I call them by their PD number. I’m also not selling, offering discounts, or promoting the products in any formal way, which my understanding is that was the main issue with that channel? I will certainly continue to be cautious about the language though.
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LMAO, your comments are spot on! So refreshing and entertaining, first class infotainment! Keep going, great job! I'm happy I've found your channel.
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching.
I know this video is old but thank you for this video because this watch I was browsing on Amazon and they were promoting them on Amazon and then I found your video so thank you for this video
Glad you found it helpful! I hope to have another Pagani video soon on a few of their chronos.
Great video!!!!! I think Steinhart and Squale make amazing watches for the money....I have both and Pagani too... plus I own several Rolexes, Omegas, Cartiers and more...I just like watches... don't be snob ...buy what you like is my motto
Thanks for watching and perhaps check out my more recent video on Pagani Design meets Rolex :) also a good motto to have!
The Autavia homage looks awesome! Would love to have it, so far i only have a Tevise sub homage haha(I'm a student) , just to have a bit of taste of watches in general.
To be fair, if you put a Rollie under a macro lens, some of these imperfections appear as well. For instance, they're really bad about stray paint on the GMT hand.
If you could do a video on how to realign a date wheel, I would be forever grateful. My PD-1617 is badly off center in the date window. It seems like something that could be dead simple or really tricky.
Yeah, I've seen that before with the GMTs, but generally they do alright. It's hard to not find occasional faults in most brands with a good macro lens though. One exception might be Grand Seiko haha.
whoa really? send me a pic of the watch over email and we can discuss.
Hey, Brian. Thanks for this video. I bought the PD 1651 for my dad, and he really likes it. It had the same misaligned bezel, so I’ll be looking for your video on realigning bezels. I’m also a new subscriber. I just got the handwound Vario Empire and came across your movement replacement/watch review video. Really interesting. Thanks for doing these videos, and I’ll be sure to try and take that Autavia copy off your hands. Take care, man.
Hey! Thanks for hanging around and watching. Cool about the watches :)
First time I’ve seen this Autavua from Pagani Design. Would love to have one.
Hi, great review! Do you know if this silver bezel model is ceramic made as well?
Not for this specific model, I don't believe. They have some other Rolex-like models that may have ceramic bezels though.
Thank you for that , I have the same clasp as the 1651 on another PD watch it’s an absolute bugger to move the micro adjust , it’s made me think if I got a 1651 I’d discard the bracelet , so interesting you were content with it . I think the pressed steel clasps that all the reviewers knock on Addiesdive watches are more than adequate , I never look at the clasp but each to his own .
Idk, I've always been ok with the bracelet on this one, but not on most of the other PDs I've tried. I usually change out the strap for something leather on the dressy models or rubber on the dive models.
I have baught 6 pagani design. Found them very good just minor alignment issue on one.
varies some from model to model, but i really like my 1651, amazingly comfortable.
To be fair, I had to return a Citizen watch because the chronograph secondhand wouldn't hit the markers. When I returned it, the new one they gave me also didn't hit the markers, so I gave that one back, and they kept looking till they finally found one that did. My Seiko 5 has a little rust spot under the glass on the dial? Wtf. I've seen macro shots of way more expensive watches that also have dust inside like the grand seiko and rolex. Usually, you get what you pay for, but in my opinion, pagani design gives you more than you pay for.
you're not wrong. for the price, you can't argue much about what you get and it's worth it.
Great review! New sub. I got a PD “Yachty” I look forward to the bezel fix vid as I have the same issue. I would be interested in trying on the Autavia. ;)
hope to have that vid done this week, and also the giveaway for the PD-1649
So, Pagani Design watches are not perfect! Well, as you said yourself; "for the price", they're dammed perfect enough for me. I have a couple of them, and I am more than happy to continue my homage collection through them...because here, I can afford it.
they do scratch an itch, even if they quality is somewhat lacking in certain areas.
Not for the price they're being sold. It's one of the brand's where one gets the most for his buck!
they do offer some good value for the price, no argument there
What do you think of that bezel on 1651? I like it cause its different, but how does it compare to smooth ceramic bezel?
I like it because it’s steel. Makes it a no concern, easy to work with bezel. The blasted versus polished look also is nice.
Awsome video as always :) .. one question, where do you source watch cases for your custom watches ? :)
Though I don't show any custom watches in this video, for my own builds I source cases from a variety of channels such as Ofrei, eBay (and some chinese manufacturers), b-line, sk-watchparts, amongst others.
@@WatchComplications thank you for your answer, i know you didnt show any in this video, but i have been watching your videos and content for a while now, and i really enjoy your videos :)
@@TheVIndings awesome. thanks for hanging around :)
I would love to have the autavia homage! Please! I love that watch so much!
:) currently thinking through how I want to do the giveaway
@@WatchComplications let me know :)
LOL it took 2 months to get....how long before the Rolex would be delivered...:) and as far as quality build 11k vs $100 dollars?
Haha true. Well I waited several months for my Rolex only to be told it wasn't coming, so I went after-market when a fair deal came along. There's certainly a difference in quality level between the two, from the case to the movement, but I wouldn't characterize it as a 10,900$ difference :)
I ordered a pagani NTTD Omega Homage on OCT 20TH 2020 AND 70 DAYS LATER STILL NO WATCH. It disappeared for 6 weeks after leaving or being scanned in Singapore. I got a Ping on Tracking DECEMBER 9th NY NY ISC SORTING CENTER. And there it has sat ever since . The Case closes in 21 or 22 days. I don't know if it got stolen in the sorting center. Anyway I ordered another similar with similar specs from Bliger NH35 Sapphire .73.50 with a mesh. I paid for Fedex Shipping on this one. The Trendy Men Store don't even offer Feedex which is where I bought the Pagani.
Mine took a couple months, so it's not abnormal to be waiting around for these things, and for them to get lost in transit from time-to-time. And I expect it could be sitting in customs a bit with the holiday season backlog amongst other things (e.g., covid). I got mine straight from the AliExpress store.
This yachtmaster or parnis yachtmaster homage, which one has better quality?
I haven’t tried the Parnis, so I can’t give a comparison opinion. What I can say is that so far I am quite entertained by the Pagani. It is comfortable and functional.
I just received a 1649 that I ordered around the time this vidoe came out. This one had a unidirectional bezel on it while yours had a bi directional bezel. The bezel and chapter rings seem to be spot on while the numbers on the dial don't seem to be as crisp on the one you received. I think you might find little differences like these as well. The bracelet is definitely not the best. The edges are pretty sharp, wich makes it a bit uncomfortable.
That's a little odd about the bezel, haha. The bezel was fine on mine, seemed like something on the dial was off a tad. The bracelet on the PD-1651 was so much better. As you say the one with the 1649 has sharp edges and such. Thanks for watching!
Great channel, do u know how lun is graded?
are you asking how good the lume is on one of these?
Thats the problem with homage watches. They get the good and the bad. Autavia looks fantastic then you see the 42mm size and say not for me. Same goes for the homage then.
in this case i typically just call them copies. but they are quite different in some ways. the Autavia was 44mm I think, quite big.
For the money, you can't go wrong...
I will be happy to receive a watch off you 😉
May I ask where you bought that horween leather strap from.
It came with a Xeric watch, the Atlasphere, I had at one point and later sold, but I kept this strap.
I do not understand the hate for homage watches. The existance of a less expensive alternative doesn't diminish the prestige, history, glamour or glory of the original. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then having a watch design transcend a nameplate and become a template, an archetype, of a style is a tremendous compliment.
Also, watch guys kvetch endlessly about homage watches but wear homage clothes without batting an eye. Do they only wear oxford cloth button downs from Brooks Brothers? Do they only wear waxed cotton jackets from Barbour? Do they only wear penny loafers from GH Bass? Sure as shit they don't think about these things. Inconsistent, two-faced, contradictory, incongruous, hypocritical watch snobs.
Not sure if you are suggesting I hate homage watches or if you are just venting generally about people who hate them. I actually really like the PD-1651, basically a Yacht-Master copy, and already put the blue hand on it. In the vid I simply say I’m not a huge fan of “heavy” homage watches, but some people are, and to each their own. They at least let a person give a test run for a design.
@@WatchComplications It was much more of a vent than something directed at you specifically. You have a reasonable stance on the topic and seem to use these watches more as a chance to tinker as much as anything else.
This is more of a philosophical question. What is the harm in even a 1:1 direct copy with a different logo on the dial? Hard liners don't seem to have a thought out reason for their stance despite being the loudest, most opinionated and staunchest in their belief.
I do use them for tinkering and personal entertainment for the most part. As for direct copies minus the logo...personally, I have a natural care for intellectual property, perhaps somewhat due to my profession and projects. Direct copy isn’t allowed for books, photos, materials, software, etc. Will copies, reinterpretations, and such always happen, yes. Is what it is. With regard to watches, I just try my best to evaluate them for what they are. And the PD-1651 makes a great beater.
@@WatchComplications Thanks for taking the time to elaborate. I came for the Chinese specials but will stay for the watchmaking/tinkering.
liked and subscribed. outstanding review of two watches i'm waiting to receive. if you can get by the "homage" debate, these give you the chance of a preview of the basics of the real watch.
Glad you liked it and found the vid helpful. Enjoy the watches!
Too bad i missed the giveaway, i was actually looking at that one... May be big, but its aesthetics are exactly what I'm looking for!
Stick around, I'll be doing a G-Shock giveaway next week.
With you on the ‘clops - hate them!
they’re ridiculous...
@@WatchComplications A jet lighter will get rid of it!👍🏾
I would guess someone got the Tag Homage . It is to big for me as well. I considered it once.
yeah that ended some time back...
I might add 2 comments. If you don't like the cyclops (many Rolex have them as you know). My Pagani watches with the Sieko movement is MORE accurate than my real Rolex! The "Daytona" (non mechanical but a quartz Sieko movement is running 2 sec fast A WEEK! I like knockin around with a watch that I can throw away if it breaks than having 5 to 6 grand on my wrist to worry about when doing daily stuff!
All watches have pros and cons. Personally, I do prefer mechanical to quartz but they all have their place. I love having the Pagani for a beater.
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This is just one of their sub homages but with a silver bezel. The beauty of the YM lies in its case design, they should've focused on that instead.
It's a $100 watch, they aren't going to put that much time into it. It's certainly not a yachtmaster-style case, but for the price, I just can't argue for what you get out of it. It's comfortable, accurate, and reasonably spec'd. Perhaps if they trimmed the case down then it would be even better, but then it'd probably be best to just buy a yachty ;)
May want to be careful referring to copies/homages by the brand names of the originals (Autavia, TAG, Yachtmaster, etc.). Gary @ I Like Watches lost his channel due to that.
I appreciate the sentiment, but I repeatedly comment that these are copies of those brands, for example a “Yachtmaster copy” which is what it is. Probably good to keep making that clear. I could see how if someone was repeatedly calling them the original brand name or model name it would be an issue, but I don’t believe I give that impression at all. Usually I call them by their PD number. I’m also not selling, offering discounts, or promoting the products in any formal way, which my understanding is that was the main issue with that channel? I will certainly continue to be cautious about the language though.
Quick question, where are you going to source the ‘blue’ seconds hand?
I sourced it via eBay and I show it in this video: th-cam.com/video/hBvZDR-0k4A/w-d-xo.html
I'll take the 22mm center polished bracelet.
Gave the PD-1649 away in a recent Giveaway on the channel. Sent it on the bracelet.
Pagani is a low cost lower quality Chinese maker. Try the San Martin. I've handled their watches and it's at least 80% of a Rolex at 1/10 the price.
Yeah, I've seen them and heard good reports of their quality. I may review one at some point. I won't compare to Rolex just yet! haha
Is the movement from Japan, though?
it’s a Seiko NH36 so it should be from Japan. Unless they’ve cloned them.
@@WatchComplications Imthink they may be cloned,as it should say Japan or Malaysia on the top of the rotor.👍🏾
@@soggz4246 entirely possible
Let’s have it,please.
Cheers.👍🏾
Oh yes can I have the blue one please 😁
that giveaway was years ago 😅