Why Great Drummers Are Better Than Us (
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- What do Larnell Lewis, Sarah Thawer, and Mark Guiliana have in common?
They’re all great drummers. But what makes them so great? Why do they sound so good?
In this quick tip, Nate Smith (aka “The 80/20 Drummer”) explains how note placement is a key reason top drummers sound better than the rest of us. And you don’t have to be ‘born with it’ to learn how to improve where and how you hit the drums.
Nate shares his favorite analogy about note placement and shows you a few metronome exercises to improve your timing. Give them a try!
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Bout time Drumeo got Nate in....A Great dude and educator.
Amen 👌🏽
Amen
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Hell yeah Gareth!
Awesome dude! 👍
Finally Nate is on Drumeo! I'm huge fan of both channels and I've been waiting this for years!
Thanks for the great video!
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Same
Likewise.
Simply put, they practiced the right shit on a consistent basis. One thing that held back my playing for many years is consistency. If you want to be great, you gotta do it consistently and gradually moving out of your comfort zone.
Hell yeah Nate glad to see you on Drumeo
Yoooooo 💪💪
This Guy is Brilliant, his knowledge is sooo deep. We need more of his concepts, please.
Easily the most informative, killer, and most importantly: useful, lesson in forever. Thanks.
Glad you like it, Jared!
Aaaaaw 😀😀😀
Amen
Very cool seeing Nate up in the house 👊🏾😎
Nate is such a great teacher, he reminds me of my drum teacher. Very helpful with the visual analogy!
Oh wow! This has been so cool to see these TH-cam drummers showing up, like Rob "Beatdown" Brown, Camille Bigeault, and now Nate!
Glad you like it, Jeremy!
Watched Nate for a long time and got pretty excited when he popped up here! Would absolutely love a full length lesson from him!
That was fun! Easily one of my favourite Drumeo videos yet. I already followed/enjoyed Nates stuff but the production quality here along with the visuals/sense of humour intermixed was a beautiful blend of approachable education. Thank you. 🙏
Cheers!
One thing I like most about Sarah Thawer is that she’s got the absolute best stank face. She’s obviously an amazing player, but her facial expressions just totally get me into whatever she’s doing. It’s not some practiced thing, she’s just feeling it, and it makes me feel it all the more. So good.
Hello from Kansas City, Missouri. Great Video Nate. What it takes to be a Great Drummer are a number of things that are Simple but not Easy. Specifically, Tone, Time, Feel, Articulation, Dynamics, Rhythms, Sticking, Instrumentation. But also things like Being on Time, Learning a Song Quickly, Efficient Rehearsals etc. Also for anyone that's interested, Nate Smiths 80/20 Drummer Website and TH-cam Channel are easily two of the Best sites and channels for Drummers, especially for Jazz. Thanks.
Being able to displace the beat by 8th's and 16th's along with a click was one of the hardest things I ever learned how to do. Because I (we) was raised on rock and roll radio it took soooo long to be able to escape that backbeat as we've been trained to find it. Now I can slip in and out of it at will but it wasn't easy
I love this guy, he's brought drumming down to realistic goals that build foundations for all drummers to build greatness upon
This really reminds me of how flow is really important to get a good groove while filling. Bill Bruford does a great example of it. I hope you guys do an episode on him!
Very good. In New Zealand we need this. Thanks Mr Nate.
Oh hell yeah! Finally! A long time fan of both, great to see the crossover finally happening! :)
That’s a really interesting and cool way to think about…well, a lot of things. Great practice ideas, too. Thanks guys.
Cheers Cody!
Great to see Nate on Drumeo! To me, he has a real life approach to drumming, but has the unique ability to see certain details that most of us do not. Very cool, hope to see more of him on Drumeo. 👍🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
Thanks Nate! Love the parking space analogy! And hearing the metronome on different parts of the beat - works great - to me it’s like playing a groove with a percussionist!
This was great! Thanks for having him on, Drumeo - I hope there's a lot more to come. Nate is a fantastic no-nonsense educator that takes tricky-to-first-grab concepts and charts a great path to understanding!
thanks!
Nate is really one of the best youtube teachers. Big up from France Drumeo !
Brilliantly performed and explained by one of the great teachers out there Nate👌🥁
Been an 80/20 sub since 2017 truly an academic
Drumeo is not just THE best drum education online, it is a great, supportive community 😊
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Love that guy Nate been learning off him for years now
I'm not a drummer but I enjoy learning how music "works", and this was an amazing, informative video.
So cool to see you here Nate! 👍
I've been wishing for this collaboration for years.
So glad to see Nate Smith on Drumeo!
This lesson will make me sign up for Drumeo! Nate is excellent!!!
this opened my eyes back when I saw it on Nate's channel.. great lesson
That drums SOUND SICK.
Whoa!! Nate! So glad to see him here. Been following him for a while. Great lesson! Really excited about working on this.
The theorisation of Nate with the production value of Drumeo is a banger. We need this as a régular serie.
As a long time subscriber to Nate and Drumeo it's great they've done something together. Good lesson. 👍
Nate on Drumeo!
FINALLY!
that was awesome! thanks 80/20! and drumeo
Nate is the brutal honesty we all need.
@Bronson Tolliver I agree. And I’m glad he figured out how to deliver that brutal honesty without alienating newcomers.
Love this guy! Awesome to see him at Drumeo ✌🏻
When I manage to practice every day for a while I begin to feel like I’m getting close, especially on a good day where I’m just jamming along with my favorite tunes
Then I miss a few days due to boring responsibilities and when I come back I’m sloppy, takes a while to warm up, and I struggle to lock up with the beat real tight. Really frustrating when I just can’t manage to play at the level I know I’m capable of, or at least want to be capable of.
Thank you Nate and Drumeo.
Much appreciated.
Cheers.
Love Nate, great to see him here finally
Great job in getting the process across!!! Cant think of a better way of explaining playing on,behind and ahead of the beat than the parking space scenario 😉👏👍✌🏼
Glad to see you here!
Such an amazing analogy, Nate!
So glad to see Nate here. So cool
Cheers Juan!
Used to be a lot of emphasis on breathing - the physical act of breathing - through fills and rhythms. Has a big effect on the “fudge factor”.
This is the best video Drumeo has ever put up....by farrrr.
The guy that got my drumming off the ground. Been watching this guy’s videos since before I was a drummer.
This is basically a 80/20 drummer video on drumeo. big W drumeo. its about time
The cool thing is the green hoodie homie wasn't trying to outplay the "bad drummer" He was helping him sound better. Bringing him up and that's what music is about.
This is great. The other element is dynamics. Timing is everything. But dynamics is the cherry on top that separates the greats from the plebs.
Very true 🙌
AWESOME NATE,,,BEEN FOLLOWING YOU FOR YEARS...EVEN BOUGHT A COUPLE OF COURSES FROM YOU....WELL DESERVED TO BE ON DRUMEO..KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
thanks so much
Nate is a good man also a great drummer and the best teacher
What I like about the Thomas thing....is that he jumps in WITH the other dude. He doesn't care about who is what...he just loves to be playing music with someone right then.
Mark Giuliana's work ethic is ABSURD!
Nate in the house !
Great lesson!
Cheers!
Finally, 80/20. Nicely done.
Excellent!
awesome class, love the way he educates
finally your drumskit sounds excellent :D congratulations!
Thanks for your responses. I've deleted my former comments because I think I muddied the waters in respect to the topic of your video. Love your channel and respect you as a musician and tutor truly. Thanks for the exchange all the same
There was no need to delete anything. I appreciated your comments either way 💪
Hey, revisiting our exchange here. Why didn't you mention yourself as great!? You are also an example of great, like your peers!
I like how drumeo prepare huge drumset for Nate and He’s just throw everything through the window 😂
to be fair, I played a LOT on that kit, but in this, the first of 3 videos we shot (plus a take of me playing with a song), they just cut most of the playing out.
Underrated lesson
This guy always finds new and interesting ways for me to hate my own drumming...Another lesson you never get in life kids .. Ignorance is bliss... Remember to have fun and feel the music..
lol noooo! Love your playing. It's always tough right? We have to accept ourselves as we are but also strive to improve.
@@8020drummer I agree...I love your videos and they always challenge my perception of my own playing...I knew if you read this you would understand I was joking about hating my drumming and get the fact that it is important above all else to have fun and not take yourself to seriously...
Love Nate!
I'm 1 minute in, and can't wait to hear what Nate sounds like on an un-busted, actual kit!!
How do you know some of us are not up there with the Pridgens of the world? Lol. I was well on my way to berklee with a scholarship until my wife told me we were gonna have a baby!
Practice practice,practice and having fun.
an average drummer like us.. yea, you're not average man
Actually he is
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 he is not. At all
@@frelopermanboy7426 He definitely is.
Everything he's demonstrating here I learned in the first 6 months.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 you genuinely have no idea what you’re talking about, like really.
@@frelopermanboy7426 I do actually.
It's basic shit.
Try to understand that.
Yoooooo *Nate!*
I love this realness haha
Nate for the win!
holy sh3t. Nate at Drumeo! yeah! \,,\
Damn boy that snare cracks
they're better than most because: A. had access great material and teachers at a young age. B. could afford to play drums at an early age. C. One or both parents are musicians and music comes naturally to them. Getting started at an early age, money and natural ability will of course make your ceiling way higher than the average person getting started.
Excellent
Thanx!! 🙌🏾
Great lesson! Nate is awesome. :)
Congrats Nate!
Wooo Nate made it on!!
He's finally here!
Wow!! Just wow!!
This brings up a VERY interesting subject that has no definitive answer... for instance, drummers like Will Calhoun, Carter Beauford, and myself who do a strange thing (which makes things difficult) due to having complete ambidexterity on arms and legs. I play a kit right handed, even though I'm bit more left handed and left footed yet can't kick soccer ball with my left. My right hand is automatic, just like darling a guitar, while the left does all the work without having to think. All 12345678 fills I start with left hand, do left hand crash and right foot kick next beat 1. I've had producers who've hired me actually laugh at me and I wonder why and they ask "how the hell do you do that"?? So I want to do a similar instruction video involving it.
Hes tha OG
So useful! Thanks 🙏
My theory is that Nate had to practice in rented spaces where going all out was not possible, so he developed a somewhat subdued style. Also, sharing kits with other drummers meant not getting to tune one exactly the way you like, but then sort of skewing his perception of what a kit should sound like. I like his odd sense of humor and ability to avoid the crowd and carve out a niche for himself in a crowded field. I really wanted to hear him perform a full song he really likes or do an extended drum solo on that Drumeo kit, which sounded great.
we did shoot some of that. It's kind of in Drumeo's hands as far as when they want to share it ;)
As for your theory, I'd attribute it more to playing acoustic jazz for 15 years, so not having the volume levels internalized until I started doing sheds with people like Forrest and Chris Paprota circa 2016. From there it's been a few-year journey to playing with more volume, and Jacob Evans has helped me get more volume with less tension as well.
"Here's one of Larnell... not a chop in sight." 🤣🤣🤣
Nate needs to be on retainer with DRUMEO.
You deserve it, Nate! 🎉 One of the greatest teachers on the platform! 🙌
Uhhhh, he didn’t mention talent? There are people who genuinely feel the journeyman level of groove at 7-8 years old. I’m not saying there’s stuff you just can’t teach, just saying there are people naturally way better at this stuff than you and it’s just a fact 🤷♂️
Yup!
you're objecting to a lesson on using the metronome to improve timing by invoking talent? Unless your solution is to never practice because some people will always just be born with it, what would you recommend? I think everybody's assuming if you're never going to be roger federer, it's worthless to work on your serve. Sorry - not trying to be snippy. But you presumably spend time practicing stuff if you're a drummer. If it's all talent, why bother? And as long as you're bothering to practice, why not practice better?
@@8020drummer nowhere in my post did I say don’t bother drumming since you won’t be Joey Jordison or one of the other countless greats. But to look at greats and act like all they are is practice summarized is disingenuous. I think 12 year old Larnell Lewis would overshadow Lars Ulrich on any day 😂 talent matters, it’s not everything but it sure is something. Like it or not
@@Ichabod_Jericho do you think it’s fair to the spirit of the video to imply I’m saying “all you have to do to play like larnell is this”? It seems like a pretty simple thread: one thing the greats do better than average drummers is time and pocket. Assuming you agree practice does Something, here’s a twist on the usual way of practicing that might get you there a little quicker.” Again not trying to quibble, but I can’t imagine you really think just because in one video out of the hundreds I’ve produced I don’t mention talent, that means I’m implying a metronome exercise is the only difference between me and larnell.
LETS GO
We can read!
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Nate!!!!!
gracias
Finally !