@@markbrown4039 Not mandatory. For example, in France, French is the main language spoken with French pilots. Often the same in Spain. It is therefore remarkable that in Zurich, even in emergency situations, people continue to communicate in English.
@@markbrown4039 While yes, most ATCs are fluent in english (and honestly all should be) usually whenever it's two french people communicating they will speak french for example. Same with spanish native speakers preferring to talk spanish. So while ATCs can and should be able to speak engilsh fluently on some airports they will switch to native language unless forced. LSZH is notable because all comms are in english, even between two native speakers.
@@markbrown4039 I guess you haven't flown much outside the US. You will find English, French, Spanish, Chinese (Mandarin AND Cantonese), and Russian, just within the international and en-route facilities and airports. Get into smaller airports with no international scheduled flights and you will find that MOST speak the local language, although will attempt to come up with something vaguely approximating a facsimile of English if asked. But although they know the standard aviation phrases, you had better be exact, because that is ALL that they know, and their understanding of even that is questionable. So check your ICAO glossary carefully.
@@EvanBear That is not even a specialty of LSZH, but you will experience the same in Germany, Austria, most eastern European countries, Scandinavia, Benelux, ... (sometimes there are exceptions for VFR traffic). I'm guessing the reason is that all of these languages are not ICAO languages.
Odd hearing FL70. Most ATC always say anything under 10,000 as what it is. Climb 7,000ft instead of climb to FL70. Usually only hear FL for altitude above 10,000ft.
@@arkiefyler Oh jeah, americans going to Netherlands... FL40.... Actually quite a large part of Europe has transition altittudes below 10'000 as long as there are no larger known obstructions like mountains, buildings and adjacent air spaces with such rulings.
@@florianhofer2476 Been nearly 25 years since I flew over there! Switched to A300's, Continental 48 only to avoid O-Dark-thirty , in-the-eyes Sun rises! 🤣 19 years since I last parked even that jet! 😁
I should definitely create a playlist for FLAP ISSUES...
I told my wife to shut her flap. It caused a crash.
Quit flapping about and do it!🤣
@@selftrue670 And then she gave you a number to call! 😉
@@jamesrau100 Excellent!
Yes.👍
Swissest Swiss accents ever, the pilot in particular just seems to drop the English words into the way he would normally speak. I love it.
I prefer the captain speaking at the start, is more up and active. The FO seems asleep 😂
Thank you for all your amazing content vas
Thank you for watching
Note that both of these people are swiss and thus speak swiss german normally but they still speak english despite that. LSZH has great ATC.
Most ATCs are fluent in English, as it's a universal language.
@@markbrown4039 Not mandatory. For example, in France, French is the main language spoken with French pilots. Often the same in Spain. It is therefore remarkable that in Zurich, even in emergency situations, people continue to communicate in English.
@@markbrown4039 While yes, most ATCs are fluent in english (and honestly all should be) usually whenever it's two french people communicating they will speak french for example. Same with spanish native speakers preferring to talk spanish. So while ATCs can and should be able to speak engilsh fluently on some airports they will switch to native language unless forced. LSZH is notable because all comms are in english, even between two native speakers.
@@markbrown4039 I guess you haven't flown much outside the US.
You will find English, French, Spanish, Chinese (Mandarin AND Cantonese), and Russian, just within the international and en-route facilities and airports. Get into smaller airports with no international scheduled flights and you will find that MOST speak the local language, although will attempt to come up with something vaguely approximating a facsimile of English if asked. But although they know the standard aviation phrases, you had better be exact, because that is ALL that they know, and their understanding of even that is questionable. So check your ICAO glossary carefully.
@@EvanBear That is not even a specialty of LSZH, but you will experience the same in Germany, Austria, most eastern European countries, Scandinavia, Benelux, ... (sometimes there are exceptions for VFR traffic). I'm guessing the reason is that all of these languages are not ICAO languages.
Love your content! Keep these videos coming!!
It's kinda better to happen now than in 2 months when the runaway is frozen.
Usually the winter service trucks are fast enough to prevent this at Zurich.
Thank you very much for picking this incident up!🙂
Glad they were safe!!!
THANKS :)
As a native german speaker, I haven't heard "Edelweiss" clearly in any transmission 😂
listen when they say it in the middle of a sentence, it is better to hear
To be fair that callsign is terribly long
lol, the swiss accent at the end e4
I bet I saw this plane at the gate today... dang
PAX vaping at 6:00pm on PHX 7L tower frequency caused DL 2067 to turn around!! FYI for your videos. October 3
Such a boring emergency. Boring emergencies are a good thing
Good one Luke. I'd say it was those darn professionals that made the emergency so boring.
@@roderickcampbell2105 must agree
Odd hearing FL70. Most ATC always say anything under 10,000 as what it is. Climb 7,000ft instead of climb to FL70. Usually only hear FL for altitude above 10,000ft.
Depends solely on the Transition Altitude. There are many countries with an TA below 10.000ft.
Depends on where TA/TRL are
"FL" depends on what country you are flying in; US: FL starts at 18,000', mush of Europe: FL starts at 6,000', etc.etc.
@@arkiefyler Oh jeah, americans going to Netherlands... FL40.... Actually quite a large part of Europe has transition altittudes below 10'000 as long as there are no larger known obstructions like mountains, buildings and adjacent air spaces with such rulings.
@@florianhofer2476 Been nearly 25 years since I flew over there! Switched to A300's, Continental 48 only to avoid O-Dark-thirty , in-the-eyes Sun rises! 🤣 19 years since I last parked even that jet! 😁