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I have owned three MacBook Pros since 2007. I am very happy with my most recent machine, a 15 Inch 2015 model. I have seen various reviews and comments from other TH-camrs who have mentioned the same issues as this video highlights. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the new 16Inch MacBook Pro lives up to the hype. As for video creation/editing , I use iMovie myself and I am very happy with this.
@@bibletwink666 Exactly. I considered the new surface book and surface laptop, mainly because i liked the 3:2 aspect ratio which is very similar to mac's 16:10. Turns out the surface book has a major hardware issue with cracking screens because the design makes the glass at the top of the screen touch the base when closed. Just check out the reviews for these surface devices on microsoft's own website, full of broken screens and other issues and these devices sadly cost just as much as the macbooks they compete with. If Dell ever makes an XPS model with a 3:2 or 16:10 aspect ratio I would certainly consider it but all the pc laptop makers stick to 16:9 :(
@@DKprojects9 them having bad reviews on their own website. Exactly! I looked at the surface pro 6 on their website and it had quite an amount of bad reviews. On their own website.
Agree. That's why with the most basic of all problems the keyboard, it isn't worth paying so much for MBP. Its asking price isn't justifiable. I would build a hackintosh.
Hollywood dumped final cut years ago when apple dumped Final Cut server and no loner manufacturers or supports server infastructure. Avid media Composer has the largest marketshare for professional video editors, followed by Adobe Premier.
@@lakorai2 As a Windows user, I'm curious what other video editing program offers background rendering? I'm no Apple fan, but that's why many are, when it comes to Final Cut.
@@narwhal4304 Adobe Media Encoder and Resolbe both support background rendering with GPU accelleration (nVidia CUDA etc). Premier hands off the workload to Media Encoder. AVID and Adobe can push jobs to a rendering server or farm, something that Final Cut used to aupport but dumped when they went to Final Cut X.
Ha, Thinkpads of today SUCK. I've had 3 X1 Carbons. My first two had poor build quality and battery problems. Lenovo sent me a replacement. Screen was warped. Sent it back. The 3rd one had overheating issues, drains battery on basic tasks and fans are way too noisy. Also had a problem with the "T" key not registering. Brand new Thinkpads , JUNK. A friend of mine has an X1 Extreme. He hates it but can't return it since he's past his return period. Don't get me started how horrible Lenovo's customer service is. Worse computer, worse customer service.
@@v5000a Thinkpads are junk now. IBM Thinkpads were good. Lenovo's Thinkpads with their horrible customer service is something everyone should stay away from. Quit the darkside and bought a 2018 MacBook Pro. Love it. Sorry it took me this long to switch.
As a data scientist, I switched from MBP to Thinkpad T480 running Windows a month ago and could not be happier. Finally got out of the abyss of horrible stucky keyboard and dongle city, I appreciate the dedicated Nvidia card, upgradability, great keyboard and touchpad, and all the ports while remain pretty portable in today’s premium Windows machines. Thought I cannot move away from MacOS but I find myself even more comfortable with Windows than MacOS. Anyone tempts to do it, just do it now. It feels good to get rid of MBP from your life.
Anyone going from macos to windows would disagree with u. Glad u happy. U r probably the exeption confirming the rule. I have had macbook air and mbp 15 2015. I use windows for gaming, and oh boy have i had problems with windows. Took 2 days to install it. Laggy, blue screens, advertizing everywhere. Bloatware. Proffesional. Sure. I would never use windows for 3d work, web development, drawing, coding, app development etc. Windows is for teenagers, gamers and technicians. Not creatives. Reability surpasses all. Try working on a computer that wont even boot up, that freeze or bluescreens just opening software. Wifi wouldnt even work with windows 10...
@@NGameReviews oh yes it does. If u buy parts, especially amd ryzen motherboards which i did 2016 u in a world of hurt... windows might work ok on pre installed laptops - not so great when building mobos out which must be thousands of unproven combinations... i fi ally solved even installing it after watching forums and videos with 100 of thousands of views. I am not alone.
It's the last MacBook that Apple made which was worth buying before they started caring more about the design than functionality (aka the new keyboard design and removing all the ports). My 2015 model is i7, 16GB ram and 1TB of storage and it runs better than all the new models out there. I'll never buy a new model because it just doesn't make any sense.
Apple please hold this L, I swear people who buy macbooks always say "I cant wait for the next, better macbook" like that's ever gonna come, they even prove it themselves by getting the "next, better macbook", then immediately say the same thing and repeat this loop of overall: bad products
The 2016-... models are prone to problems, the 2012-2015 ones didn't had that many issues in the past. Please don't think Apple is alone in that race, ALL the laptop companies have had problems recently (Dell with coil whine, Lenovo with BIOS, ...)
If you think that’s bad, I feel sorry for lots of surface pro owners. They went through far worse shit until the surface pro 5, and even that had freezing lock screen and pen jitters. Yet lots of of them kept buying the next version. Maybe there was lots about it to love it. Just like the macs. And now your mind is blown.
one of those future macbook pros is gonna be so great that the keyboard actually works! and then they'll make a johnny-ive style video about it to have the i-(whatever we are supposed to call them if we are not allowed to call them certain names on this page) drooling.
Not only this keyboard is unreliable, when it works, it’s the worst typing experience! And after 3 years of owning one, I still dislike it as much as I did in day one.
Yeah good luck with that. I was in the same spot with my MBP 2011, it was great and I didn't want to buy the new MBP 2018 for the reasons described in this video. Unfortunately planned obsolescence is forcing me to pull the trigger, my MBP can't even run MATLAB anymore (despite being way more powerful than it should need to) and for an engineer that's a deal-breaker. It's a love-hate relationship with Apple but there's nothing we can do about it.
I gave up on Macs maybe five or six years ago. To be clear, I'm not a professional, and I'm not here to tell anyone that they're "wrong" for still liking or enjoying Apple products: if Mac and iPhone still works for you, that's awesome. I honestly miss a lot of things about Mac, but all of the little annoyances and difficulties just built up for me to the point where I ditched the ecosystem and went back to Windows. Apple's simple and efficient design aesthetic used to be the gold standard of computers (especially laptops), but at least for me, they've really lost sight of that standard. They still make beautiful devices from design standpoint, and they're still brilliantly functional, but there are so many little drawbacks, bugs, and compromises now that it's just not worth it to me to shell out for a MacBook Pro every few years when I can just build a high-end desktop PC and buy a cheap Windows laptop to do all the other stuff I need to be able to do on the go. And again, to be clear, I am not a professional, I don't use my desktop or laptop for video editing, at most I do a bit of hobbyist-level music production. So I understand that someone tied into Final Cut would find it very hard to cut the cord. Anyway. I'm rambling, but, yeah, I share your sentiment. If I felt I could RELY on the MacBook Pro the way I used to, I'd go back to it. It's just not for me anymore.
I've been using Macs professionally for nearly two decades now, for video, photo, graphic design, and audio production. I still have to use Macs at work, because it's what we have there. But, Apple has massively declined in quality and reliability for their devices, and the OS that runs them. And so I now only buy Windows devices; they are cheaper, more powerful, and just as reliable. It used to be that people ran Macs because 'it just works', but that statement is just not true anymore. And not only that, but many of their really brilliant creative professional products have either been downgraded or discontinued. Why buy an unreliable Mac for FCPX, when you can instead use Resolve, Avid, or Vegas? Better yet, most professionals have Adobe CC anyways, so just use Premiere (which is much better). Sketch? Use XD, which is free.
Keeping it positive here. I enjoy Rene Ritchie's approach and respect the fact he built a career analyzing Apple and communicating his perspective in a detailed and nuanced way.
Can I just say something here?.....I watch all the videos created by the big boys in tech (MKBHD, Dave2D, Rene, etc).....but I gotta say, of them all....I really enjoy your format the most. The edits, the concise reporting, the quippy quips. A sincere thank you for all of the hard work you put into it all and for making my TH-cam viewing experience that much better. 🤙🏼 #NeedMacbookProRedesignNOW
Can't help but notice such better quality of content and flow of information on your videos Mr. Mobile. Please continue doing what you're doing. A fan.
I don't think I've ever bought from a sponsor link before, but here I am with a 2014 15" MBP that I'm biding out this chassis generation with for all of the reasons in this very video, and I need exactly that lol
Apple should pull the MacBooks from the market as it's a defective product. That's what companies are supposed to do - Don't sell us defective stuff. Redesign the Macbook, hire a few folks from Lenovo to design the new keyboard, and release a MacBook worthy of the name. Sadly, this ain't our Apple anymore. This iteration of Apple has a very hostile view toward it's customers, whether it's soldering on RAM and SSD's, throttling phones to push new purchases, lazily updating processors yet still charging premium prices for underperforming machines and most damning, fighting efforts to allow consumers to repair their own machines. Michael, this Apple sees customers the way used car lots sees customers - as marks to be had.
Couldn't have said it better. I've been an Apple user and evangelist since 2000 and these past few years and products have properly let me down to the point that i'm now telling people to go buy a windows machine to get a lot of bang for their bucks. I'm personally not buying new Apple computers until Tim Cook leaves. His one and only focus is profit over everything else. Apple needs a proper visionary to come in like Satya Nadella replacing Balmer (another profit hungry bean counter) at Microsoft.
I switched from the windows eco system to Ubuntu! It's much cleaner. Only thing I hate is the lack of support of Major softwares like Adobe and Microsoft..... But like always there's a way to solve the problem
I have a Sony Vaio from 2013 that's still going strong, in spite of the obsolete hardware. One reason for that is the astonishing build quality. I'm sure it can last another four years if I take good care of it. That being said, I don't understand how a premium product like Apple Macbook can pass the production line with problems like thermal throttling and fragile keyboard, things you have to put up with daily. Oh well, wish I could buy a Sony laptop now, but competition like Apple drove them out of business.
Its staggering to me people still buy in to these and use them. Back when the Apple trackpad was leagues above anyone else, people would say "they just can't use a laptop PC because the trackpad is so bad". But now the keyboard, arguably far more important than a trackpad, is basically unusable.
It isn’t for many and that’s why people still buy them. Some people like them. Millions use their MacBook with no problem whatsoever. The keyboard design is flawed. It thermal throttles and I wouldn’t buy one until they fix it. But your average customer has no idea about these issues and just buy for the brand. So, it shouldn’t be staggering to you at all when you understand the context.
Michael. I really appreciate your original take on reviews. I can't quite put it into words but your personality comes through and it makes the material interesting. Just wanted to leave a word of commendation, I don't usually post these. Please keep up the good work.
OH! THAT TEAM UP! WOO! Also, I agree 100% with your assessment. I love using a Mac, but my first gen touchboar has been so frustrating for me. It makes me want to just get an iMac Pro or the updated Mac Pro, whenever that comes, instead of another Macbook pro.
I've been there. It is hard to change workflow, but I am not married to any software. Everyone can absolutely relearn and get better at software. Something annoying as keyboard failing on multiple generations of laptops is enough for me to change. It is ridiculous to stick to high priced failing hardware for one program.
I wish all of the people in the comments would be put this much energy into keeping the Windows manufacturers accountable, when they do the same things with their expensive “pro” or “gaming” devices that crap out after 24 months, because, you know...Windows 10 anything...🤦🏽♂️
I think the issue that makes it worse for Apple is there are dozens of manufacturers for Windows devices; the OS isn't married to the device. This makes it nearly certain that every failing is blamed on Apple. Whereas Windows laptop manufacturers enjoy a level of dissociation from the OS, making it a little more easy to avoid the same numbers of complaints.
I have a late 2016 macbook pro, and I'm REALLY hope this years update will fix a lot of these problems since I was planning on upgrading. The touchbar is useless and the keyboard had to be replaced for me, which was a huge hassle when I was traveling.As I said..... fingers crossed for the new model. Since I still very much prefer to work on this machine compared to Windows, including a few exclusive programs to Mac OS I use. The workflow are just way quicker on Mac OS.
I know it might hurt at first but make the switch to premiere and then to a Lenovo Carbon Thinkpad of some sort. It is great to be able to pick a laptop you actually want and not have to spend more on one u don't. Just saying.
Hey Michael, I remember you made a video a couple of years ago about using the ipad and pixel c as your main writing tools when you were on the go. You should do a 2019 version. Since the new iPad pro was such a radical change. I want to know your experience with it or how useful has been to you.
Surface Book 2!! I bought one today and it's literally the best laptop / tablet in 1 you can get out there. Fast performance, powerful built in graphics card, insane battery life and the screen detaches to use as a tablet. But unfortunately for me as well Final Cut Pro X just can't be beat, so I'm sticking with my Mac 😕
Great video! I was one of these "final cut pro slaves" once. But when I had to upgrade my old iMac, the prices for a new one just didn't make sense. Ended up selling that old iMac and with some more money, builded a custom PC waaaay more powerful --and hackintoshed it! With dual boot, I could even use Windows to game. Nowdays I just use windows, with Premiere Pro. I know, it's not even close to Final Cut's easy of use. But it gets the job done, and at the end that's what matters (and the money it took to do so). Still like Apple, just not so much. I feel kinda betrayed.
You should check out Davinci Resolve. Idk how it compares to Final Cut, but I switched over from Adobe and can't go back now. Would also prevent you from being bent over by Apple
Davinci Resolve is great, as there is even a Linux version, and he really should consider a rolling distro like Manjaro on a Lenovo Thinkpad if he does not want to go with Windows 10.
I couldn't agree with your perception the thermal throttle problem, seems like your expectation is too underwhelming to comprehend what thermal throttling really means, anything on the I9 that cannot run consistently with 4.3 GHz On ALL cores is considered to be throttling, and we only have two laptops that can do that as of now, Acer Helios 500 and MSI GT75
Apple seriously need to go back to the old keyboard ports and magsafe. Going thinner has been the real problem here. But then when you think about it, Apple have been screwing the customers over for a while now
Sad thing is Apple is not the only company with reliability issues in their machines. I have a Dell laptop that, for the past 2 years, has given me nothing but problems. I have had to send the machine off to the service center 7 TIMES, with 2 replacement machines in a year due to issues that fell under the warranty, ranging from touch screen issues to a faulty palmrest that caused the keyboard to dip down into the chassis. I am a student, and being without my laptop for up to 3 weeks due to constantly shipping the laptop back to the service center (Because Dell put the wrong part on, or didn't do the work that they were supposed to) made my classes much harder. Even the laptop I have now (which they gave to me new, but without a warranty, as it had run out during one of the trips to the service center) has issues with the touchscreen failing (I ended up writing a script that I keep in my taskbar to disable and reenable the touchscreen to fix the problem). Not to mention the first model (The one I have now is a later generation of the design) had 1 USB 3 port, and a USB 2.0 port on a mid-to-high-end computer purchased in 2017, as well as a USB C port that didn't support Thunderbolt.
1) I actually like the 4 USB-C ports (2 on each side) on my 15" MBP 2018. I can use the adapter to plug my peripherals on any side I want. This is great when working in tight spaces and I want the cords on just one side. Better cable management. 2) Never had a TouchBar or Keyboard issue (knocks on wood, cause I know the keyboard issue is real). 3) The money I spent on my MBP is NOT worth it. I do love the touchpad and like some MacOS only editing software, but there are plenty of PC laptops that are much better bang for the buck.
The problem is not only the keyboard issues but also the fact that apple knew that these issues was about to come when designed this type of keyboard and still didn't do anything.....just pushed to the market...
should i tell you that with a windows based computer you can practically do the same thing that apple os does, but a whole lot better. like you can make it almost like apple os, but not shit. and use your right clicks for shit, besides being another left click button, like who fucking thought that was needed. or just use linux that way you dont use the shitty apple hardware and get an apple OS port for linux.
My late 2013 15-inch rMBP is still going strong today, I’ve never had a single issue, it’s never skipped a beat, it’s been the most reliable system I’ve personally owned along side my old 2011 Mac-mini. I won’t upgrade until Apples gets their act together again. I’m really hoping the new rumoured 16-inch redesigned pro is going to be everything we all want it to be.
I currently rock a 2018 pro but CONSTANTLY find myself reverting back to my 2012 retina out of comfort and convenience. I love my 2018 one for what it could be, but the 2012 just seems like the better of the two, especially considering how well it’s aged and hasn’t slowed down one bit.
I upgraded and got the 2018 13” MBP and I haven’t experience any of these problems with the keyboard or Touch Bar. I’m a writer and use my MBP about 8-10 hours a day and besides the keyboard getting some time to get used to, I’m really happy with it.
The keyboard alone is the reason why I'm still using my late 2013 MacBook Pro. I've never had a problem with it, even after eating lots of random crap over it through the past six years. This is the laptop I got back in my senior year of high school to replace my 2008 MacBook. I'm now almost two years post-college. Honestly, if Apple just fixed the keyboard and dropped the pointless Touch Bar, I'd be all in on a new laptop, since mine is definitely slowing down. But, sadly, I don't think they'll fix it anytime soon, which means probably no new OS upgrades at some point and I'll be forced to get a crappy computer.
I’m not a video editor, so my movement over Thinkpad two years ago was very smooth and easy transition. I have windows and Fedora installed and I have no problems. The thinkpad keyboard is the best I ever used.
I purchased a 2015 MacBook Pro Retina 13" i7/16gb/512gb SSD in April 2015 and used it until April of this year. I purchased an HP Spectre X360 15" i7/16gb/1tb SSD and don't regret anything. I ditched my iPhone after having one since 2010 in 2017 for a Note8 and now have a Note9 and again have zero regrets. Life without Apple is great.
Z3U5 It depends. FCPX is definitely well-optimized, and works fairly well even on mid-range hardware. It's editing and color tools are a bit lackluster though, especially compared to Premiere. It's definitely easier to learn, but lacks true JKL editing and anything resembling a sophisticated trim mode like AVID.
If you don't mind waiting a bit longer on rendering video, then it's not really a problem. Unless you use a 500 dollar Windows Laptop. If you're using a 2000 dollar laptop with dedicated graphics, it's shouldn't be much of a problem. Yes, I like FCPX. But the price of affording a Mac for it is too high for an average consumer. So yes, I compromise the hardware optimisation for DaVinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 (I can't really afford CC).
I have used a MacBook Pro's since they first came out. However I remained with my 2012 MacBook 15" inch model, with an upgraded logic board, as the other one broke. So I have a 2.4 GHz i7 with 2013 logic board. Not fast for doing 4K editing. I have been using FCP since that came out as well, and like most of the people here, I have stuck with Apple because of that. So I didn't upgrade in 2016, and I am glad I stuck with the older, more ports model. Let's hope Apple listen to their pro customers. I am not bothered if it weighs a bit more. Rather more ports than less weight. I guess we will find out very shortly.
Just a comment on Apples Customer Service, my Grandfather wanted to make an appointment at the Genius Bar in an Aplle Store here in Germany. They wouldn´t even let us talk to a real human on the phone before paying a 30€ cosultation fee. I´m glad that a lot of people have made better experiences tho.
I have had nothing but an amazing experience with my MacBook Pro 2017. I am an app developer and spend most of my time with the MacBook pro on a stand and connected to a 4k monitor with wireless keyboard and mouse. However when I travel I also use it on its own and have had no problems with the keyboard or anything else. It should be noted that I have the 2017 No Touch Bar model
I'm sad to see Apple's designs falling behind. Competition is essential. iOS phones fell behind Android years ago. Apple tablets are now losing to chromebooks (just look at how the education industry is switching). Are Mac books next?
Thanks so much for having me on Michael! It's an honor. Great job on the video. Fingers cross Apple has listened to all the feedback and the upcoming redesign addresses all these issues.
Customer support unmatched? Are you mad? Why do you think companies depend on Lenovo and Dell for their laptops? It's because a technician will come to you to get the laptop working again immediately.
The problem is that Apple's Enterprise software, like Final Cut and iWork, eclipse their competition. The reason why Michael made this video was basically to address the problem that Apple seems to have: massively defective hardware that plagues at a higher rate than launch 360s.
I loved Apple once too. Used to own all the iPhone from the 3GS to the 6S. But then the way they handled the iPhoneX and the Macbook Pro made me give up on the 'eco-system' and move on... Looking back on it now, I'm so glad I made the switch earlier rather than later.
You-tubers uniting to make excuses for shitty apple workmanship....including mr mobile himself........its all quite incestuous. If these guys were actually honest and genuinely looking out for their viewership ( hey you-tubers, we're not fans, just viewers) there is no way a mac pro could be recommended. Since they receive free products (ahem, products for review, ahem) from manufacturers, including apple they really are just becoming shills and settling into a really cosy relationship with apple. Look at Dave 2 Dave...you think his "expose' of apple devices was real?...ffs he looked like a deer in the headlights when they came a knocking and told him to calm down. He of course still uses a mac pro. Just admit you love apple sponsorship mr mobile, buy an iphone and be done with it. Disappointing to say the least.
Around about 5 years ago, all I wanted was a mac. All my friends had one, all my study mates and work colleagues had one. I would sit there with my 500 dollar hp laptop which was a brick and just look over in aww. I even used their laptops and tried them out and they felt so good. But I really couldnt connect with the OS like I did with windows. I'm sure if I used it more it would become second nature to me as well but then Microsoft made a huge announcement, the surface book 2. I was like where have you been all my life, now I carry my surface book 2 around as a teacher at work, and a dance teacher and as a college student with the envious looks from all my unhappy mac book user friends. They are still amazed by it after almost 2 years of me having it and I gotta say I am too. I love it.
Ever since I started using Macs professionally I was using MacBook Pros, it was a beast, worked perfectly until it died last year. With all the issues with the current machine, that you and others have highlighted. I ended up switching to an iPad Pro as my mobile machine. I still have a desktop Mac for the big editing jobs. But as of right know I’ve found the iPad Pro perfectly suitable for illustration, photo manipulation and even video editing. With that said, I do mis have one machine that could do it all. Here’s hoping that Apple fixes these issues.
Sold my 15” Pro for a 2018 Air and I love it. Keyboard is definitely better as well on the 3rd gen. Also the 15” is giant for no reason compared to the 13” Air. Good review!
@@kevin9284 It's pretty much a hit or miss, gotta get lucky with your purchase which is pretty unfortunate for such an expensive device. Mine has been good so far thank god, but I can understand all the outrage behind the keyboard issues.
It's impossible to have a perfect computer, but if I were to spend that much money on something that is crucial to my daily work, I expect ZERO compromises. My computer(and by extension, all the technology I use) must conform to my will, not the other way around.
I don't what to call my self. I work with a macbook pro for my work place, use a usb keyboard, and a track ball mouse. I had a hell of a time just getting a hold of even the basics. To the point that I feel more comfortable working in a terminal. The hardware looks fantastic, but function and flexability is slipping down rappidly.
It's funny that Apple products are getting worse yet somehow people get excited about the next one... Edit: I'm not being sarcastic... I just think people need to be educated about the fact that there are missing out on so many decent options that other manufacturers have to offer. Apple isn't trying to make a good product anymore. They only want money. That's all.
"Apple isn't trying to make a good product anymore." I actually strongly disagree with this. In many ways the current lineup of Apple products is very good; as I mention in the video, some of it is legitimately the best you can buy. I think the difference today is that the attention to detail and quality control have lapsed, leading to more major problems with the devices that hit consumers' hands.
I work for an ISP and I get so many calls from people complaining about their internet speed. The network chips are so cheap I honestly wish we could just stop supporting Apple altogether. They sell their customers cheap junk, but at a price and in a package that makes the customer think it's top notch stuff.
I went from a pro to air ... because my 2011 MacBook Pro was never really Pro because of the GPU problem. Now that they have everything sorted on kind of feel like a throwaway computers.
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Lol terrible puns are definitely ban worthy.
Well hold up - if that's true I gotta ban myself for my own thumbnail! 😆
Another reason why I like you and I'm a long time follower...
I second this comment.
I have owned three MacBook Pros since 2007. I am very happy with my most recent machine, a 15 Inch 2015 model. I have seen various reviews and comments from other TH-camrs who have mentioned the same issues as this video highlights.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that the new 16Inch MacBook Pro lives up to the hype.
As for video creation/editing , I use iMovie myself and I am very happy with this.
When you pay that much money on anything... It MUST work perfectly.
@STS Tech but what other product works perfectly?
@@bibletwink666 Exactly. I considered the new surface book and surface laptop, mainly because i liked the 3:2 aspect ratio which is very similar to mac's 16:10. Turns out the surface book has a major hardware issue with cracking screens because the design makes the glass at the top of the screen touch the base when closed. Just check out the reviews for these surface devices on microsoft's own website, full of broken screens and other issues and these devices sadly cost just as much as the macbooks they compete with. If Dell ever makes an XPS model with a 3:2 or 16:10 aspect ratio I would certainly consider it but all the pc laptop makers stick to 16:9 :(
@@DKprojects9 them having bad reviews on their own website. Exactly! I looked at the surface pro 6 on their website and it had quite an amount of bad reviews. On their own website.
Agree. That's why with the most basic of all problems the keyboard, it isn't worth paying so much for MBP. Its asking price isn't justifiable. I would build a hackintosh.
Daniel Paz Maybach makes a $400K car. Not perfect
the litt -t little editing touches are appreciated a lot by us Michael!
Seriously inspired execution of that idea. Wish I could edit that well!
Sachindra Bhattacharya correction *lott 😂
lol I'm laughing so hard on this part
That double t speech at 4:12 was brilliant
Not gonna lie I didn't even realise...
He's a master of commentary and that's why he delivered
T-t-t-today junior!!! Haha
Michael: If I didn't need Final Cut Pro everyday then I would have moved on by now.
*Mr.Mobile** immediately flexes Final Cut skills*
Avid Media Composer, Adobe Premier and Magix Vegas (formally Sony Vegas) provide near or better functionality than Final Cut.
You can use adobe premiere on a mac tho
Hollywood dumped final cut years ago when apple dumped Final Cut server and no loner manufacturers or supports server infastructure.
Avid media Composer has the largest marketshare for professional video editors, followed by Adobe Premier.
@@lakorai2 As a Windows user, I'm curious what other video editing program offers background rendering? I'm no Apple fan, but that's why many are, when it comes to Final Cut.
@@narwhal4304 Adobe Media Encoder and Resolbe both support background rendering with GPU accelleration (nVidia CUDA etc).
Premier hands off the workload to Media Encoder.
AVID and Adobe can push jobs to a rendering server or farm, something that Final Cut used to aupport but dumped when they went to Final Cut X.
4:12 was perfect. It re-triggered by own keyboard PTSD.
Used macs all my life, moved from the 2013 Macbook Pro to a Thinkpad in 2017, no regrets.
Yup, ThinkPads are the way to go, my 1st gen carbon is still going strong at 6 years old.
@@v5000a If only Lenovo were better at marketing...
Ha, Thinkpads of today SUCK. I've had 3 X1 Carbons. My first two had poor build quality and battery problems. Lenovo sent me a replacement. Screen was warped. Sent it back. The 3rd one had overheating issues, drains battery on basic tasks and fans are way too noisy. Also had a problem with the "T" key not registering. Brand new Thinkpads , JUNK. A friend of mine has an X1 Extreme. He hates it but can't return it since he's past his return period. Don't get me started how horrible Lenovo's customer service is. Worse computer, worse customer service.
@@v5000a Thinkpads are junk now. IBM Thinkpads were good. Lenovo's Thinkpads with their horrible customer service is something everyone should stay away from. Quit the darkside and bought a 2018 MacBook Pro. Love it. Sorry it took me this long to switch.
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As a data scientist, I switched from MBP to Thinkpad T480 running Windows a month ago and could not be happier. Finally got out of the abyss of horrible stucky keyboard and dongle city, I appreciate the dedicated Nvidia card, upgradability, great keyboard and touchpad, and all the ports while remain pretty portable in today’s premium Windows machines. Thought I cannot move away from MacOS but I find myself even more comfortable with Windows than MacOS. Anyone tempts to do it, just do it now. It feels good to get rid of MBP from your life.
Pascal Gu You can hackintosh it, you know. To get Mac OS back
@@ekirchman8765 Not really on a laptop. Unless you must use a MacOS only app (not many in data science), then there's no point either.
Anyone going from macos to windows would disagree with u. Glad u happy. U r probably the exeption confirming the rule. I have had macbook air and mbp 15 2015. I use windows for gaming, and oh boy have i had problems with windows. Took 2 days to install it. Laggy, blue screens, advertizing everywhere. Bloatware. Proffesional. Sure. I would never use windows for 3d work, web development, drawing, coding, app development etc. Windows is for teenagers, gamers and technicians. Not creatives. Reability surpasses all. Try working on a computer that wont even boot up, that freeze or bluescreens just opening software. Wifi wouldnt even work with windows 10...
@@TheVikingquest it sounds like you're the exception then, because that doesn't happen to everyone, and certainly not for me.
@@NGameReviews oh yes it does. If u buy parts, especially amd ryzen motherboards which i did 2016 u in a world of hurt... windows might work ok on pre installed laptops - not so great when building mobos out which must be thousands of unproven combinations... i fi ally solved even installing it after watching forums and videos with 100 of thousands of views. I am not alone.
I still use 2015 model. It holds up surprisingly well.
Nice I would to buy that one with OWC Upgraded Storage 😊😊😊
Same here. Got a maxed out one in the hopes it will hold on long enough to get back to better MacBooks someday.
It's the last MacBook that Apple made which was worth buying before they started caring more about the design than functionality (aka the new keyboard design and removing all the ports). My 2015 model is i7, 16GB ram and 1TB of storage and it runs better than all the new models out there. I'll never buy a new model because it just doesn't make any sense.
Same here, I'm using the 2012 and still going strong
Matthew Joshua Sosito 970 evo / pro would be better. My old 2015 had 2,000-2,200 write and read.
Apple please hold this L, I swear people who buy macbooks always say "I cant wait for the next, better macbook" like that's ever gonna come, they even prove it themselves by getting the "next, better macbook", then immediately say the same thing and repeat this loop of overall: bad products
The 2016-... models are prone to problems, the 2012-2015 ones didn't had that many issues in the past. Please don't think Apple is alone in that race, ALL the laptop companies have had problems recently (Dell with coil whine, Lenovo with BIOS, ...)
If you think that’s bad, I feel sorry for lots of surface pro owners. They went through far worse shit until the surface pro 5, and even that had freezing lock screen and pen jitters. Yet lots of of them kept buying the next version. Maybe there was lots about it to love it. Just like the macs.
And now your mind is blown.
one of those future macbook pros is gonna be so great that the keyboard actually works! and then they'll make a johnny-ive style video about it to have the i-(whatever we are supposed to call them if we are not allowed to call them certain names on this page) drooling.
Not only this keyboard is unreliable, when it works, it’s the worst typing experience! And after 3 years of owning one, I still dislike it as much as I did in day one.
I can totally understand your dislike on it...because i'm exactly like that....just something off with this keyboard even when it works fine...
I got two words for you: planed obsolescence.
Genius bar ?!? You should have sent it to Luis Rossmann !!!!
I still enjoy with my MBP 2015, and I won't switch to any new until Apple won't fix all the F**kups they made with MBP since 2016.
Yeah good luck with that. I was in the same spot with my MBP 2011, it was great and I didn't want to buy the new MBP 2018 for the reasons described in this video.
Unfortunately planned obsolescence is forcing me to pull the trigger, my MBP can't even run MATLAB anymore (despite being way more powerful than it should need to) and for an engineer that's a deal-breaker.
It's a love-hate relationship with Apple but there's nothing we can do about it.
Sooner Apple will drop support for the whole generation of old form factor by the new OS, they gonna force everyone to move on
I gave up on Macs maybe five or six years ago. To be clear, I'm not a professional, and I'm not here to tell anyone that they're "wrong" for still liking or enjoying Apple products: if Mac and iPhone still works for you, that's awesome. I honestly miss a lot of things about Mac, but all of the little annoyances and difficulties just built up for me to the point where I ditched the ecosystem and went back to Windows.
Apple's simple and efficient design aesthetic used to be the gold standard of computers (especially laptops), but at least for me, they've really lost sight of that standard. They still make beautiful devices from design standpoint, and they're still brilliantly functional, but there are so many little drawbacks, bugs, and compromises now that it's just not worth it to me to shell out for a MacBook Pro every few years when I can just build a high-end desktop PC and buy a cheap Windows laptop to do all the other stuff I need to be able to do on the go.
And again, to be clear, I am not a professional, I don't use my desktop or laptop for video editing, at most I do a bit of hobbyist-level music production. So I understand that someone tied into Final Cut would find it very hard to cut the cord.
Anyway. I'm rambling, but, yeah, I share your sentiment. If I felt I could RELY on the MacBook Pro the way I used to, I'd go back to it. It's just not for me anymore.
Thank you for sharing this
So what have you moved to?
I've been using Macs professionally for nearly two decades now, for video, photo, graphic design, and audio production. I still have to use Macs at work, because it's what we have there. But, Apple has massively declined in quality and reliability for their devices, and the OS that runs them. And so I now only buy Windows devices; they are cheaper, more powerful, and just as reliable. It used to be that people ran Macs because 'it just works', but that statement is just not true anymore. And not only that, but many of their really brilliant creative professional products have either been downgraded or discontinued. Why buy an unreliable Mac for FCPX, when you can instead use Resolve, Avid, or Vegas? Better yet, most professionals have Adobe CC anyways, so just use Premiere (which is much better). Sketch? Use XD, which is free.
Big fan since the PNOW days, keep up the good work, sir!
I feel sad for Rene Ritchie. He's so desperately clinging to the hope that Apple might be more than a money grubbing marketing machine...😔
He is so lame
@@LZentertainments He is awesome
Keeping it positive here. I enjoy Rene Ritchie's approach and respect the fact he built a career analyzing Apple and communicating his perspective in a detailed and nuanced way.
He's amazing, and so are his ideas. And while some of his defences for apple makes sense, others are just "apple needs money", just sugar coated
Can I just say something here?.....I watch all the videos created by the big boys in tech (MKBHD, Dave2D, Rene, etc).....but I gotta say, of them all....I really enjoy your format the most. The edits, the concise reporting, the quippy quips. A sincere thank you for all of the hard work you put into it all and for making my TH-cam viewing experience that much better. 🤙🏼 #NeedMacbookProRedesignNOW
Can't help but notice such better quality of content and flow of information on your videos Mr. Mobile. Please continue doing what you're doing. A fan.
Precisely what I wanted to say
I didnt think the keyboard experience was bad till I used the older model
Wish there was an upgrade option here for the old MacBook pro
Moved to a surface 2 from a MacBook Air and don’t regret it! 🙂
im on a surface pro 4 as my portable editing machine. My only complaint is that the battery life is a bit weak but its not too bad!
I don't think I've ever bought from a sponsor link before, but here I am with a 2014 15" MBP that I'm biding out this chassis generation with for all of the reasons in this very video, and I need exactly that lol
DO IT! I have an aura pro x2 in my late 2013 15" and it doubled my disk speeds
Apple should pull the MacBooks from the market as it's a defective product. That's what companies are supposed to do - Don't sell us defective stuff. Redesign the Macbook, hire a few folks from Lenovo to design the new keyboard, and release a MacBook worthy of the name.
Sadly, this ain't our Apple anymore. This iteration of Apple has a very hostile view toward it's customers, whether it's soldering on RAM and SSD's, throttling phones to push new purchases, lazily updating processors yet still charging premium prices for underperforming machines and most damning, fighting efforts to allow consumers to repair their own machines. Michael, this Apple sees customers the way used car lots sees customers - as marks to be had.
Couldn't have said it better. I've been an Apple user and evangelist since 2000 and these past few years and products have properly let me down to the point that i'm now telling people to go buy a windows machine to get a lot of bang for their bucks. I'm personally not buying new Apple computers until Tim Cook leaves. His one and only focus is profit over everything else. Apple needs a proper visionary to come in like Satya Nadella replacing Balmer (another profit hungry bean counter) at Microsoft.
Glad I stayed with Windows
I switched from the windows eco system to Ubuntu! It's much cleaner. Only thing I hate is the lack of support of Major softwares like Adobe and Microsoft..... But like always there's a way to solve the problem
There's no such thing as a "Windows ecosystem". lol.
@@samuelmurillo2244 fine. I'm glad I stuck with Windows OS. Good lord.
@@bassamsiraj2175 Ubuntu is great. Windows 10 is not.
@@samuelmurillo2244 It's good enough
I've personally never used my i9 MacBook as a laptop since I've owned it. I bought a dock and never un docked it since lol
I have a Sony Vaio from 2013 that's still going strong, in spite of the obsolete hardware. One reason for that is the astonishing build quality. I'm sure it can last another four years if I take good care of it. That being said, I don't understand how a premium product like Apple Macbook can pass the production line with problems like thermal throttling and fragile keyboard, things you have to put up with daily. Oh well, wish I could buy a Sony laptop now, but competition like Apple drove them out of business.
You can get some in decent condition on EBay.
Its staggering to me people still buy in to these and use them. Back when the Apple trackpad was leagues above anyone else, people would say "they just can't use a laptop PC because the trackpad is so bad". But now the keyboard, arguably far more important than a trackpad, is basically unusable.
It isn’t for many and that’s why people still buy them.
Some people like them.
Millions use their MacBook with no problem whatsoever.
The keyboard design is flawed. It thermal throttles and I wouldn’t buy one until they fix it. But your average customer has no idea about these issues and just buy for the brand.
So, it shouldn’t be staggering to you at all when you understand the context.
Michael. I really appreciate your original take on reviews. I can't quite put it into words but your personality comes through and it makes the material interesting. Just wanted to leave a word of commendation, I don't usually post these. Please keep up the good work.
OH! THAT TEAM UP! WOO!
Also, I agree 100% with your assessment. I love using a Mac, but my first gen touchboar has been so frustrating for me. It makes me want to just get an iMac Pro or the updated Mac Pro, whenever that comes, instead of another Macbook pro.
"I bought a fruit turd and it's making me crazy."
"It makes me want to buy another fruit turd!"
"This is Tech Today
" indeed.
Been hearing the "can't move on because Final Cut" for years now. Just move on, it is time. Let the Mac die, burn it if you have to.
When you use a program for a long time you get efficient and fast and there is virtually not turning back ....
I've been there. It is hard to change workflow, but I am not married to any software. Everyone can absolutely relearn and get better at software. Something annoying as keyboard failing on multiple generations of laptops is enough for me to change. It is ridiculous to stick to high priced failing hardware for one program.
I wish all of the people in the comments would be put this much energy into keeping the Windows manufacturers accountable, when they do the same things with their expensive “pro” or “gaming” devices that crap out after 24 months, because, you know...Windows 10 anything...🤦🏽♂️
I think the issue that makes it worse for Apple is there are dozens of manufacturers for Windows devices; the OS isn't married to the device.
This makes it nearly certain that every failing is blamed on Apple. Whereas Windows laptop manufacturers enjoy a level of dissociation from the OS, making it a little more easy to avoid the same numbers of complaints.
I have a late 2016 macbook pro, and I'm REALLY hope this years update will fix a lot of these problems since I was planning on upgrading. The touchbar is useless and the keyboard had to be replaced for me, which was a huge hassle when I was traveling.As I said..... fingers crossed for the new model. Since I still very much prefer to work on this machine compared to Windows, including a few exclusive programs to Mac OS I use. The workflow are just way quicker on Mac OS.
LOVED Tttttttthis review Mike! I canttttttttt waitttttttt for more!
I'm probably just gonna build a hackintosh :D
I know it might hurt at first but make the switch to premiere and then to a Lenovo Carbon Thinkpad of some sort. It is great to be able to pick a laptop you actually want and not have to spend more on one u don't. Just saying.
Finally a reviewer that doesn't do that annoying voice dip thing at the end of EVERY sentence. Thank you!
Hey Michael, I remember you made a video a couple of years ago about using the ipad and pixel c as your main writing tools when you were on the go. You should do a 2019 version. Since the new iPad pro was such a radical change. I want to know your experience with it or how useful has been to you.
*Question:* If final cut pro was not specific to mac
Which laptop would you be using now
Surface Book 2!! I bought one today and it's literally the best laptop / tablet in 1 you can get out there. Fast performance, powerful built in graphics card, insane battery life and the screen detaches to use as a tablet. But unfortunately for me as well Final Cut Pro X just can't be beat, so I'm sticking with my Mac 😕
you are the type of person that can't quit an abusive relationship despite being mistreated all the time...
Great video!
I was one of these "final cut pro slaves" once. But when I had to upgrade my old iMac, the prices for a new one just didn't make sense. Ended up selling that old iMac and with some more money, builded a custom PC waaaay more powerful --and hackintoshed it! With dual boot, I could even use Windows to game.
Nowdays I just use windows, with Premiere Pro. I know, it's not even close to Final Cut's easy of use. But it gets the job done, and at the end that's what matters (and the money it took to do so).
Still like Apple, just not so much. I feel kinda betrayed.
You should check out Davinci Resolve. Idk how it compares to Final Cut, but I switched over from Adobe and can't go back now.
Would also prevent you from being bent over by Apple
Davinci Resolve is great, as there is even a Linux version, and he really should consider a rolling distro like Manjaro on a Lenovo Thinkpad if he does not want to go with Windows 10.
I couldn't agree with your perception the thermal throttle problem, seems like your expectation is too underwhelming to comprehend what thermal throttling really means, anything on the I9 that cannot run consistently with 4.3 GHz On ALL cores is considered to be throttling, and we only have two laptops that can do that as of now, Acer Helios 500 and MSI GT75
Apple seriously need to go back to the old keyboard ports and magsafe. Going thinner has been the real problem here.
But then when you think about it, Apple have been screwing the customers over for a while now
YOU ROASTED APPLE
APPLE FANS GETTEN TRIGGERED
Sad thing is Apple is not the only company with reliability issues in their machines. I have a Dell laptop that, for the past 2 years, has given me nothing but problems. I have had to send the machine off to the service center 7 TIMES, with 2 replacement machines in a year due to issues that fell under the warranty, ranging from touch screen issues to a faulty palmrest that caused the keyboard to dip down into the chassis. I am a student, and being without my laptop for up to 3 weeks due to constantly shipping the laptop back to the service center (Because Dell put the wrong part on, or didn't do the work that they were supposed to) made my classes much harder. Even the laptop I have now (which they gave to me new, but without a warranty, as it had run out during one of the trips to the service center) has issues with the touchscreen failing (I ended up writing a script that I keep in my taskbar to disable and reenable the touchscreen to fix the problem).
Not to mention the first model (The one I have now is a later generation of the design) had 1 USB 3 port, and a USB 2.0 port on a mid-to-high-end computer purchased in 2017, as well as a USB C port that didn't support Thunderbolt.
Joseph Still stop watching porn. Problem solved. Messes up computers.
I have loved the MacBook pros I have owned (09) (18 Vega 20) the keyboard on the latest model is unforgivably horrid though.
It's the best keyboard ever on a Mac
1) I actually like the 4 USB-C ports (2 on each side) on my 15" MBP 2018. I can use the adapter to plug my peripherals on any side I want. This is great when working in tight spaces and I want the cords on just one side. Better cable management.
2) Never had a TouchBar or Keyboard issue (knocks on wood, cause I know the keyboard issue is real).
3) The money I spent on my MBP is NOT worth it. I do love the touchpad and like some MacOS only editing software, but there are plenty of PC laptops that are much better bang for the buck.
The problem is not only the keyboard issues but also the fact that apple knew that these issues was about to come when designed this type of keyboard and still didn't do anything.....just pushed to the market...
depend on final cut pro .. get a hackintosh problem solved
WaschBaer 😂😂
It is OSX that is good, not the macbook!
should i tell you that with a windows based computer you can practically do the same thing that apple os does, but a whole lot better.
like you can make it almost like apple os, but not shit. and use your right clicks for shit, besides being another left click button, like who fucking thought that was needed.
or just use linux that way you dont use the shitty apple hardware and get an apple OS port for linux.
@@Thekilleroftanks oh boy
@@Thekilleroftanks go try to update your idiot PC. You'll regret it so much.
My late 2013 15-inch rMBP is still going strong today, I’ve never had a single issue, it’s never skipped a beat, it’s been the most reliable system I’ve personally owned along side my old 2011 Mac-mini.
I won’t upgrade until Apples gets their act together again.
I’m really hoping the new rumoured 16-inch redesigned pro is going to be everything we all want it to be.
I currently rock a 2018 pro but CONSTANTLY find myself reverting back to my 2012 retina out of comfort and convenience. I love my 2018 one for what it could be, but the 2012 just seems like the better of the two, especially considering how well it’s aged and hasn’t slowed down one bit.
I have a 2011 MacBook Air since it came out and is working fantastic
Apple is done. Learn to live with Windows or go Linux.
I upgraded and got the 2018 13” MBP and I haven’t experience any of these problems with the keyboard or Touch Bar. I’m a writer and use my MBP about 8-10 hours a day and besides the keyboard getting some time to get used to, I’m really happy with it.
The keyboard alone is the reason why I'm still using my late 2013 MacBook Pro. I've never had a problem with it, even after eating lots of random crap over it through the past six years. This is the laptop I got back in my senior year of high school to replace my 2008 MacBook. I'm now almost two years post-college. Honestly, if Apple just fixed the keyboard and dropped the pointless Touch Bar, I'd be all in on a new laptop, since mine is definitely slowing down. But, sadly, I don't think they'll fix it anytime soon, which means probably no new OS upgrades at some point and I'll be forced to get a crappy computer.
I won't buy a MacBook until they fix the keyboard.
Resolve 16 probably would be the best reason for us to ditch mac os afterall
I do really hope Apple fixes these issues in the near future. That butterfly keyboard as well as the lack of ports doesn't bode well really.
I still use 2013 13” MacBook Pro. Can’t change it because of our bad economy, but you make me scared of new MacBooks.
Huawei matebook x pro is the NEW macbook Pro as the matebook x pro is a beast and fantastic quality.
Next MacBook will not have those problematic letters.
You will need to buy it separately.
Okay this one got me. LoL.
I’m not a video editor, so my movement over Thinkpad two years ago was very smooth and easy transition. I have windows and Fedora installed and I have no problems. The thinkpad keyboard is the best I ever used.
Great vid
I always l-love your reviews!
Are just-t so good.
Customer service? You mean customer scam? Maybe you need to speak with Louis Rossmann a little.
Because apple are obsessed with thinness this is why the keyboard is crap. Should of gone back to the previous keyboards.
I purchased a 2015 MacBook Pro Retina 13" i7/16gb/512gb SSD in April 2015 and used it until April of this year. I purchased an HP Spectre X360 15" i7/16gb/1tb SSD and don't regret anything. I ditched my iPhone after having one since 2010 in 2017 for a Note8 and now have a Note9 and again have zero regrets. Life without Apple is great.
Just learn to use Davinci Resolve or Adobe Premiere it's not that hard.
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Those are better NLEs but have a higher skill threshold. In all fairness, FCPX is pretty powerful and hassle-free in some ways.
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It depends. FCPX is definitely well-optimized, and works fairly well even on mid-range hardware. It's editing and color tools are a bit lackluster though, especially compared to Premiere. It's definitely easier to learn, but lacks true JKL editing and anything resembling a sophisticated trim mode like AVID.
If you don't mind waiting a bit longer on rendering video, then it's not really a problem. Unless you use a 500 dollar Windows Laptop. If you're using a 2000 dollar laptop with dedicated graphics, it's shouldn't be much of a problem.
Yes, I like FCPX. But the price of affording a Mac for it is too high for an average consumer. So yes, I compromise the hardware optimisation for DaVinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 (I can't really afford CC).
Premiere is meh on Laptops. Davinci is definitely getting better and better. It has a great potential.
@@twistedoracle1144 Agree, plus if you don't like Windows, you can always go to a Linux distro with Davinci.
Great video!!
I have used a MacBook Pro's since they first came out. However I remained with my 2012 MacBook 15" inch model, with an upgraded logic board, as the other one broke. So I have a 2.4 GHz i7 with 2013 logic board. Not fast for doing 4K editing. I have been using FCP since that came out as well, and like most of the people here, I have stuck with Apple because of that. So I didn't upgrade in 2016, and I am glad I stuck with the older, more ports model. Let's hope Apple listen to their pro customers. I am not bothered if it weighs a bit more. Rather more ports than less weight. I guess we will find out very shortly.
Apples hate for well designed thermal solution on every device that isn't an iphone or an ipad really hurts my brain
Quinn needs to get in there and build you a hackintosh. or just plug in a USB keyboard at home lol
James Russo better yet, make it a Thinkpad X1 carbon or Thinkpad X1 extreme hackintosh
@@ekirchman8765 YES
Real pros and people with morals dont use stolen software......ie no Hackintoshs FFS.
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I see you bought the Blackberry Key2 Red edition.
Just a comment on Apples Customer Service, my Grandfather wanted to make an appointment at the Genius Bar in an Aplle Store here in Germany. They wouldn´t even let us talk to a real human on the phone before paying a 30€ cosultation fee. I´m glad that a lot of people have made better experiences tho.
I have had nothing but an amazing experience with my MacBook Pro 2017. I am an app developer and spend most of my time with the MacBook pro on a stand and connected to a 4k monitor with wireless keyboard and mouse. However when I travel I also use it on its own and have had no problems with the keyboard or anything else. It should be noted that I have the 2017 No Touch Bar model
I'm sad to see Apple's designs falling behind. Competition is essential.
iOS phones fell behind Android years ago.
Apple tablets are now losing to chromebooks (just look at how the education industry is switching).
Are Mac books next?
Chromebooks =/= iPads, not the same price nor the same target.
What a review 👌🏽..... Really informative I appreciate because this is pure "Edutainment"
Teacher: What are you doing on your phone?
Me: Watching MrMobile
Teacher: Continue on
You're the only tech reviewer where I can sit through the entire video without skipping through it. Keep up the fantastic work.
Thanks so much for having me on Michael! It's an honor. Great job on the video. Fingers cross Apple has listened to all the feedback and the upcoming redesign addresses all these issues.
Customer support unmatched? Are you mad?
Why do you think companies depend on Lenovo and Dell for their laptops? It's because a technician will come to you to get the laptop working again immediately.
you might aswell try getting an aero 15 or msi GS65 and use resolve with the FCX layout.
The problem is that Apple's Enterprise software, like Final Cut and iWork, eclipse their competition. The reason why Michael made this video was basically to address the problem that Apple seems to have: massively defective hardware that plagues at a higher rate than launch 360s.
The t-t parts made me laugh. Thanks.
I loved Apple once too. Used to own all the iPhone from the 3GS to the 6S. But then the way they handled the iPhoneX and the Macbook Pro made me give up on the 'eco-system' and move on... Looking back on it now, I'm so glad I made the switch earlier rather than later.
Why are you dependend on final cut pro?? There are alternatives.
Davinci Resolve is superb.
/and it works on PC too.
Lol. Star Trek reference. "Ship out of danger?" 😁
The 2018 model with 32GB , I enjoy it a lot as a dev but I put a keyboard protection... 8 months of intensive use as developer without à glitch
What keyboard protection
Lool how you spoke the double Ts😂😂
Seriously waiting for a design shift on MacBook Pro.. expecting it would fix these problems.
Else moving to ThinkPad.
You-tubers uniting to make excuses for shitty apple workmanship....including mr mobile himself........its all quite incestuous. If these guys were actually honest and genuinely looking out for their viewership ( hey you-tubers, we're not fans, just viewers) there is no way a mac pro could be recommended. Since they receive free products (ahem, products for review, ahem) from manufacturers, including apple they really are just becoming shills and settling into a really cosy relationship with apple. Look at Dave 2 Dave...you think his "expose' of apple devices was real?...ffs he looked like a deer in the headlights when they came a knocking and told him to calm down. He of course still uses a mac pro. Just admit you love apple sponsorship mr mobile, buy an iphone and be done with it. Disappointing to say the least.
Around about 5 years ago, all I wanted was a mac. All my friends had one, all my study mates and work colleagues had one. I would sit there with my 500 dollar hp laptop which was a brick and just look over in aww. I even used their laptops and tried them out and they felt so good. But I really couldnt connect with the OS like I did with windows. I'm sure if I used it more it would become second nature to me as well but then Microsoft made a huge announcement, the surface book 2. I was like where have you been all my life, now I carry my surface book 2 around as a teacher at work, and a dance teacher and as a college student with the envious looks from all my unhappy mac book user friends. They are still amazed by it after almost 2 years of me having it and I gotta say I am too. I love it.
Ever since I started using Macs professionally I was using MacBook Pros, it was a beast, worked perfectly until it died last year. With all the issues with the current machine, that you and others have highlighted. I ended up switching to an iPad Pro as my mobile machine. I still have a desktop Mac for the big editing jobs. But as of right know I’ve found the iPad Pro perfectly suitable for illustration, photo manipulation and even video editing. With that said, I do mis have one machine that could do it all. Here’s hoping that Apple fixes these issues.
Sold my 15” Pro for a 2018 Air and I love it.
Keyboard is definitely better as well on the 3rd gen.
Also the 15” is giant for no reason compared to the 13” Air.
Good review!
It's like you didn't watch the video. His 2018 model has the keyboard issues lol
Kevin Then I’m not sure, my 2018 Air with the 3rd gen is much better than my 2017 15”.
@@kevin9284 It's pretty much a hit or miss, gotta get lucky with your purchase which is pretty unfortunate for such an expensive device. Mine has been good so far thank god, but I can understand all the outrage behind the keyboard issues.
Switch to ThinkPad my friend . Search your feelings . You know its true
Final Cut Pro..
@@BrawndoQC hackinstosh
@@BrawndoQC hackintosh ? Is it possible on a laptop
It's impossible to have a perfect computer, but if I were to spend that much money on something that is crucial to my daily work, I expect ZERO compromises. My computer(and by extension, all the technology I use) must conform to my will, not the other way around.
I don't what to call my self. I work with a macbook pro for my work place, use a usb keyboard, and a track ball mouse. I had a hell of a time just getting a hold of even the basics. To the point that I feel more comfortable working in a terminal. The hardware looks fantastic, but function and flexability is slipping down rappidly.
typpinng thiss from my Maccbook Prroo!!! XD
It's funny that Apple products are getting worse yet somehow people get excited about the next one...
Edit: I'm not being sarcastic... I just think people need to be educated about the fact that there are missing out on so many decent options that other manufacturers have to offer. Apple isn't trying to make a good product anymore. They only want money. That's all.
"Apple isn't trying to make a good product anymore." I actually strongly disagree with this. In many ways the current lineup of Apple products is very good; as I mention in the video, some of it is legitimately the best you can buy. I think the difference today is that the attention to detail and quality control have lapsed, leading to more major problems with the devices that hit consumers' hands.
I work for an ISP and I get so many calls from people complaining about their internet speed. The network chips are so cheap I honestly wish we could just stop supporting Apple altogether. They sell their customers cheap junk, but at a price and in a package that makes the customer think it's top notch stuff.
I went from a pro to air ... because my 2011 MacBook Pro was never really Pro because of the GPU problem. Now that they have everything sorted on kind of feel like a throwaway computers.