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Zootropolis was a damn good movie! Disney running at some of their best! It's a movie made for everyone, and has a real mature message intertwined in it. And what scene stands out to me as the most memorable one? It has to be the moment everything turns sour as Judy Hopps accidentally slips up in front of a room of journalists. Changing the direction of Zootopia into one of separation and prejudice. A political message anyone can digest. Let's see just what it does so well...
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…This came off as way more political than I intended. But doing it tastefully in a children's movie? This could very well be one of the best examples honestly!
When Nick said, "Oh there's a 'them' now?", my jaw dropped. That was super heavy.
meaning bi?
@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 no... Lol what?
@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 even if it was in terms of sex, bi is a sexuality, not a gender
fucking hit me. that's exactly how i feel with my "friend". being very racist, she tells me things like: "you're different from 'them' because you're Russian"
@Ryandal Gilmore I'm too smart to give a fuck about your attempts to trigger everyone in this comment section. I've seen you already
This movie proves that politics in films doesn't make them a bad film, it's the way it's handled
In the wrong hands politics in film are heavy handed, distracting from the story, and quickly make films seem dated. It takes a lot of filmmaking talent to pull off what the Zootopia team did here to have a more universal message that speaks to a wider audience.
@@johnmckeon4498 yeah it just seems a lot smarter to choose a topic that will never go away that way it will always be relevant no matter when it is watched than trying to be political about a singular recent event
Just like in the clone wars which used politics in to improve the story which showed what goerge wanted to do with the prequels
@@dionelmejia8093 close, I was more talking about politics like lgbt
@@godbutter3140 well there are some good LGBTQ movies but most of the time the people.who make those dont know how it is to be in the community
For people who don't know, in some countries, Zootopia is called Zootropolis.
thanks I didn't know this
i was confused about that, thx
Do you know why?
...Why though? That seems like a weird thing to change.
Rolls off the tongue like a piece of slightly chewed bubble gum.
Fun fact: Zootropolis was the first Disney Animated Feature to use the phrase "Oh my god" since Brother Bear (2003).
Whoa, cool
Really?
@@twist_ending7545 Yep
I don’t remember them saying oh my god in brother bear but yeah
Cool channel, keep up the good work
People should totally talk more about zootopia. It's goes so much deeper than people give it credit for.
@@THGMR-ox7sd depends on the country
@@THGMR-ox7sd in the US its zootopia in the UK it's zootropolis
@@THGMR-ox7sd it's zoomania in germany
so does beastars
@@DussyBestroyer69 which is dumb because Zootopia is a pun on Utopia, but only available in the US
The best part of it is this quote
Judy: stop it your not like them
Nick: oh there’s a THEM now
For a pg film it is extremely deep
I don’t understand…could you explain, please? I know it’s a dumb question, but I didn’t quite catch on the meaning..
@@ViceMystery Judy is insinuating that Nick is "not like other predators". hes a good guy! unlike OTHER predators. its meant as a compliment, but its upsetting bc shes essentially saying that nick is the exception to the rule that "all predators are bad by nature" which is a horrible, generalized way to think of an entire group of people
@@harayaalirak4040 oooh thank you 🙏
@ViceMystery basically it's Zootopia version of racism. Imagine the same conversation between 2 different race people
@@harayaalirak4040 I think you'd call that a backhanded compliment..she essentially said "you're good for a predator" which is like saying "you're strong for a girl" or "You're not as dumb as you look"; it's meant to be a compliment but comes from putting something else down making it an insult too.
Pigs are omnivores. No worries though. However, that would contextualize his frantic demeanor since he’s kind of half carnivore
Oh I guess that makes sense but it may also be that pigs would still be considered prey? Wild boars may be able to eat rodents that they come across but any carnivore big enough to have a hope of hunting a pig would go for it, especially a domesticated breed with no tusks and more fat than gristly muscle
@@pipedream2556 Worst of both worlds. Could hurt someone or be hurt. Both could have been on his mind. Losing myself and hurting others seems worse to me than being killed or attacked. But that’s a subjective take
@@pipedream2556 a domestic can turn wild at any time. While it can't be said for every place at least in Texas almost all wild bores come from mixed stock. Pigs are dangerous and even ones that have been in a pen it's whole life will not hesitate to eat you if it wanted
Yes, but they don’t generally hunt mammals and don’t have the obvious anatomical features to mark them as a “predator” like sharp teeth and claws, etc, so I think they’re pretty much seen as “prey” in this world. Indeed, when we see the racist pig tell the leopard to go back to the forest later on, he refers to her as “predator”, implying he does not identify with the label himself.
@@simonj3413 it's a very grey area due to how generalist their diet is. They would undoubtedly be equal to our case would they not? Except between a full grown pig and human the pig has a higher chance if killing and devouring the human . It's literally taken us thousands of years to domesticate them. And it takes one generation to turn feral again
I also really like the reactions of the predator journalists, a lot of them slowly looking more concerned and angry as Judy keeps speaking.
Whoa I didnt even notice that
Hello fellow pancake!!
I love your pfp sm
Unsurprisingly, and did anyone else notice that Doug was one of the reporters there too? He's the ram that asks, "So, predators are the only ones going savage?"
@@gabrielgraham6877 yes! noticed on my second watch as a kid. Really happy that they showed that. A lot of misinformation can easily spread by anyone posing as a "journalist" to cause chaos. The movie subtlety showing it in a way you'll only notice in hindsight was pretty neat
“Pigs are herbivores”
Pigs, who go feral at the smell of blood and will get rid of a human body in minutes: Are you sure about that :)?
Pretty much any herbivore will eat bones
@@dustyrose192 Pigs are omnivores.
@Ryandal Gilmore maybe you should find real life friends lmao
@@siberiasian Oh boy the war begins
yes! A dozen pigs can completely destroy a human carcass in around 8 minutes of chomping, bones and all. Feral pigs are KNOWN to kill and eat everything from rodents, deer, and birds, to snakes, frogs, lizards and salamanders.
I completely forgot her parents gave her the fox repellent. All this time, I was like, "what is he talking about?" "It's standard issue..."
u forgor
@@fleetway3077 yeah they forgor
they forgor 💀
U forgor 💀
It being standard issue would be even more on the nose about it bing discrimination.
Just imagine if cops had a "black people repellent" or something.
Okay to clear something up:
It is called "Zootropolis" only in European versions of the film (and the subsequent markets that receive those versions instead of the American versions) because of a copyright issue dealing with the name "Zootopia" in Europe because of a Danish Zoo that holds the same name. In German speaking nations however, "Zootropolis" is too close to "Zootopolis" which is the name of a children's book from 2010 so it ended being called "Zoomania" in the German speaking market. Everywhere else basically just calls it Zootopia. At least here in the Western Hemisphere.
In Australia it's called Zootopia
I'm Australian and we call it Zootopia here
Thanks, I was really confused
And then there's Poland...
Also, Moana (the character) is called Vaiana in Italy, because of a prominent adult film star named Moana.
Zootopia shows a world in which there is discrimination everywhere. Some of this is obvious, like the predator bullying the prey. Or that nobody takes her seriously because she is just a little rabbit.
Others are very subtle and can only be seen if you look closely.
Only after her interview does she realize that she is part of the problem. Without knowing it, she has absorbed all the prejudices and unwittingly acted on them.
When Clawhauser called her cute, he meant it, because rabbits are cute. That she felt attacked is because they are only reduced to that. Nobody takes them seriously because they are cute and therefore nobody is allowed to call them that. So they react to discrimination with discrimination. Clawhauser is the only one here who did nothing wrong and is still punished.
That is why she is stepping back. She thought she was better all the time, but she was just like everyone else and that's too much for her at the moment.
Here I love Chief Bogo's reaction. He no longer looks down on her and has the utmost respect for her. He tells her that the world has always been broken and it's not her fault. At this point he has realized his prejudices and is trying to do better, and that's only thanks to Judy. That's why he wants her to stay, because she's not just part of the problem, she's the solution.
It's not about not having prejudices, it's about recognizing them and not acting on them.
One could even consider the different zones and neighbourhoods to be species based ghettoisation, as blatant and systemic racial segregation. It even is noticeable how certain professions are filled by specific species, like all the bank clerk gophers.
Exactly, and a damn good theme for a children's theme that was handled surprisingly well
@@StarlasAiko I would say you can no longer compare 1:1 with our society here. The animals in Zootopia all have very special requirements and the city is adapted accordingly. Small animals have their own area, arctic animals another. This is not only due to living comfort, but also safety aspects.
It would only be ghettoization here if one district received less money than the others and thus perished.
As for the professions, we lack information here. It is quite possible that certain animals are naturally good at certain jobs. Much like Vulcans are particularly good scientists. You only have discrimination here if other animals are not allowed into the job, as Judy had to experience as a police officer.
How not wanting to be called a certain thing that offends u is discriminalization??
@@atanaZion Because of context. If a Nazi calls you a nigger, it's racist. But is it also racist when 2 black people say this to each other (which is normal in some social circles)? The answer is no, because of context.
Once it's racist, once it's not. And treat both as equivalent is discriminatory.
In a milder form, we have Judy with "cute". She only feels attacked because others mean it racist and reduce rabbits to it. But she did not pay attention to the context and attacked Clawhauser for it. That was discriminatory towards him.
Banning words is not the solution. You have to change the way people think.
I rewatched Zootopia recently and man, Nick's childhood scene was more heartbreaking than I remembered but the fox repellent scene towards the end really hit hard
you know about the protype version right?
@@kaiyodei with the shock collars? Ye, it was such an amazing concept but I get why they had to scrap it. But at the same time, I would've loved to see how that concept would've played out
Am I the only one who thought the misunderstanding cliché in this movie was just clumsy and ham-fisted? Just because Judy had made a general assumption about predators going savage doesn't mean she meant it in a cruel or condescending way, and I expected Nick to have thicker skin and better understand what she really meant.
In the original movie, the reason Nick and Judy split was because the Sheep in Wolf's Clothing, I think his name is "Wooly", spilled the beans and yelled out loud that Judy was the reason why Wilde Times was shut down, and that Nick was branded a criminal. Naturally, he would be upset, because the bunny he worked with to clear his name was the same bunny that got him arrested in the first place, so the feeling of betrayal would've been obvious.
@@M1GarandMan3005 I agree, I don't understand why Nick got so mad at her when to her knowledge what she said was facts. Nick was even there when they heard that it could be because of their DNA??
@@M1GarandMan3005 It's because the story is meant to be a parallel to real life racism. Something similar actually did happen in real life kind of like in the movie. There was a massive outbreak of the drug coke in San Francisco, in a predominantly black area. This led to a lot of (mainly white) people in the surrounding areas not wanting them to be able to move freely in case they brought the drug with them to other areas.
Now, it's not necessarily based on that event and could just be a generic thing. However, if one of those men/women from a black area heard one of their white friends say "Yes, it's only affecting them (following a leading question)." Then insinuating it could be because their DNA is different, it's not great. Especially since there's literally NOTHING to support her saying that. Yes, they say that it COULD be that, but it's just because they literally don't know what's happening. All saying that does is create a panic, and an "us versus them" mentality when they should all be working together.
That's why Nick is mad, and justifiably so. Everything she implied while on the stand was that predators, who are just victims of this, are the problem. Now, it's not entirely her fault that things went that direction (see the leading questions). Her attempts to justify what she said also make things worse.
I just love that the core of this film as it was being created was the prejudices people hold. The earlier versions of the film was a little too dark, with predators being forced to wear shock collars. The movie almost didn't happen if it wasn't for a little kid picking up on the idioms of animals. "Sneaky as a fox", "Quick as a rabbit", "Stubborn as an ox", "Brave as a lion" and that just paved the way for telling this very mature story about prejudice, fear and tolerance to be as amazing as it became.
I agree! Love the darker tone of the previous story, but the final product we got was definitely the right decision!
interesting detail, as judy makes her accidental speculation... you can see the carnivore reporters looking ESPECIALLY concerned, not so much for what she's saying, but for what they are starting to see in their herbivore associates.
The fact that pray reporters were hounding her with questions that ended up derailing the press conference COULD have been paid off by the then deputy mayor. I didn't even think about this until watching this video. Great work Dazz.
Yep that's what happen with Doug. He was there so predators to take blame and Judy be used as pawn.
Damn it looks like every person has a hidden agenda and is sussy
Well, some of the reporters ARE sheep
I love that the deputy mayor's name is Bellwether. First time I saw the movie I decided there was something shifty about her because I happened to know what a bellwether is (a sheep used to lead other unwitting sheep into the slaughterhouse. Sometimes a goat known as a Judasgoat for obvious reasons is used instead).
@@katietaylor8314 I did not know that that's some great foreshadowing there
"Pig: another herbivore" flashbacks to all those reports of farmers getting eaten by their pigs lol Pigs are actually omnivores like dogs and humans.
How on earth does that happen?
@@dog_boy5123 A pigs gotta eat ._.
Wait till you find out that all large herbivores eat meat. Especially ungulates that have horns like deer and goats . Who regularly eat birds and other small prey when they need the calcium and protein for horn or child development
Yup, that how ya get rid of a body
Yes pigs are omnivores like humans however dogs aren't they are scavenging carnivores so while yes they CAN eat plants they are still carnivores.
(Just making sure it is clear that I'm not hating or anything just trying to educate)
One thing i always loved about Zootropolis was how it tried showing the problems of both prey animals and predator animals. Predator animals are seen as dangerous by many, while prey animals are seen as weak by many. In certain areas, one thrives, while in others, the other one thrives. Everything is not black and white, there is so much grey areas. This might be why i also love Beastars- though that series is most certainly much darker
I love Bestars to! So many people choose to hate on it because of it having animals as the characters when it’s really cool that way.
@@Br00ke291 Most people hate it because it's animal characters with super human bodies. Characters like Mickey Mouse is fine to people bc he's super stylized and not really "furry like" while Legolas and Nick Wilde have designs similar to the "furry style".
I think it's dumb how people judge things based on how "furry" they might look.
@@sundalosketch4769 it's not as much as the art style as it is the kind of people it attracts, not everyone wants to put up with that mess...
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Yeah, but again i think it is more of assumptions. As in: Oh this show looks like something a furry would like
And there's a heavy stigma around the idea/word "furry" and things related to it that gives people the impression that they'll have to "put up with" those kinds of people if they decide to consume media that just so happens to attract those people.
@@sundalosketch4769 I mean, is the same with Boku no Hero Academia, is the fact that certain groups with bad habits gravitate towards those properties that makes people dislike those tropes that attract the groups in the first place, they are probably better enjoyed in a vacuum
(spoilers for the film)
the fact that the first leading question implying predators are a threat is posed by a sheep is especially damning, considering the reveal that the whole scheme of predators going feral and resultantly being alienated is driven by a gang of sheep…. i wonder if that reporter was one of doug’s men?
edit: i guess it was doug lol, really nice rewatch detail
It was Doug himself
@@FireFoxie1345 Not maybe that been confirmed
That was actually Doug himself, if you look up the Zootopia wiki. He also shows up briefly when we meet Nick for the first time. :)
It came out a while ago buddy
@@cheezit2398 this comment was a while ago buddy
I went to see this as a child, and it TERRIFIED me (because my mom and I both thought it was just going to be a cute buddy movie). Nowadays I honestly love it now that I "get" scenes like this.
Yeah great, it's a Disney movie that teaches children about racism.
@@erika_itsumi5141 wow Verosika, I didn’t know you liked Disney movies
Zootopia is such a great movie and I wish we had more Disney movies like it.
ik
Let’s hope that the new series is awesome too!!
@@JimBobJoeB0b huh
they need to forget about frozen for a while
@@nuggetanimation7217 true
If you haven't already, you should dive into the original plot of the film. Originally, the movie was much darker
The taming party scene gave me chills
I be interested on how that would of played out honestly.
They should sell the rights for that movie to another company. It's not Disney brand but it's GOOD.
Great analysis. However at 12:20 I don't believe this to be weak or over the top. When Judy reached for the fox repellent she was triggered by Nick's face; it's in the same angle and he is making the same expression that Gideon Grey makes when he assaulted her. This is also foreshadowed when Gideon tells Judy "I want you to remember this moment the next time..". The childhood scenes of both Nick and Judy show us a traumatic event where they were both victims of prejudice and in this same scene they have both been triggered by ptsd.
Sadly the movie didn't do the flash cut with Judy's traumatic moment (attacked by Gideon the FOX) as it did with Nick's traumatic moment (being muzzled like the pr3dators on the screen), so I'm honestly not sure this was an intentional callback on Judy's part.
After all, the movie's entire narrative was "forget the fact that pr3dators are specifically designed for kiIIing prey such as yourself, with claws and teeth, but still you should hang out with them carelessly."
@@jadecoolness101 Zootopia is a universe where predators have evolved over thousands of years to lose their hunting instincts, so any prejudice against them is unfounded. If you want a story where predators *are* inherently more dangerous, and yet the way they're treated is still unfair, watch Beastars.
@@vickypedia1308 they lost their hunting instinct, yet retained the claws and fangs to easily do so.
Gideon Grey literally assaulted her USING those claws he was born with.
You don't have to have the pr3dator HunTiNG iNsTiNcT to harm someone. So congrats on missing the point
@@jadecoolness101 Prey also still have their evolutionary weapons made to fight off or even kill predators..think horns or antlers, only use they serve is as a weapon for the most part. Both are still capable of injuring eachother not just predators for having fangs and claws
@@jadecoolness101 You're missing the point too. Almost all of the animals shown (even herbivores) have natural weapons and it is definitely possible that several of the mammals in Zootopia would know some kind of martial fighting (which would make them more dangerous than an untrained predator), but at the same time, the instincts all the animals have are suppressed enough that any "predatory nature" doesn't come up until the conspiracy is nearly fully revealed. The narrative was less "forget the fact that pr3dators are specifically designed for kiIIing prey such as yourself, with claws and teeth, but still you should hang out with them carelessly." and more "Don't treat other people unfairly based on opinions that fall apart under scrutiny"
I'm not sure how much info you can find on it, but you should also cover the Zootopia movie we ALMOST got.
The original script was very Nick-centric, and more focused on the predators as a whole. It was a much darker story, with predators wearing collars in order to be kept under control. And it leads to Nick making an underground utopia for predators to shed those collars and be free/be themselves, even if just for a little while. Judy still plays a part in it, though a bit different.
I'm glad that they changed the story. The original story was too dark and so in-your-face. The current story reflect how the real society or how America is. You see, the real America is just like Zootopia, black people and white people live peacefully together but deep down they still somewhat hate each other. You don't need to have some collars around predators' neck to tell that society is broken and racist. Just like in real life.
@@TranNguyen-qw6ep yeah, the one we have is great, but I also really wish we got to see the other one.
I think following Judy works better, as it helps truly show the internal biases that most never realize they have
The thing I love about this movie is that it gets "political" in a way that doesn't go too far in endorsing any real world political view. The slant of the movie is generally liberal in terms of its message about diversity and inclusion, but it also shows the danger of liberal hubris. It shows that even the most well meaning progressives have their blindspots and they can unwittingly poison the narrative.
The other interesting thing is that the thing caused this epidemic actually has effected bunnies in the past. Great film.
I mentioned it before somewhere else, but if you look in the crowd of Journalists you can see the few predator journalists recoil and look completely shocked at Judy's words. Its a very subtle detail that I love about that scene that kind of preludes to Nick's later reaction.
Judy: “You’re not like them.”
Nick: “Oh, so there’s a them now?”
“If the world’s only gonna see a fox as shifty and untrustworthy, then there’s no point in trying to be anything else.”
Also A thing I don't know if its cannon or not, but most of the sheep were in Mayweathers pocket. She could have very easily paid them off to ask the right questions to push her down this road
It is for Doug faked being a reporter.
i looked up the name Bellwether, and a Bellwether is the sheep who wears the bell and is "the leader"
Bellwether*
I never noticed before now that the first real leading question was asked by a sheep. Clever, truthful, awful.
Pigs are Omnivores, in fact there are animals that walk a fine line between predator and prey. I am a zoologist, I feel the movie could have worked better as carnivores, herbivores, and omnivores, such as: swine, skunks, bears, raccoons, hedgehogs, chipmunks, squirrels, mice, rats and sloths, yep, Flash hundred yard dash is capable of eating meat. Nevertheless, that scene in Zootopia between Judy and Nick is still powerful, and it shows us how much we can learn, about our own biases, that we have biases, and what it looks like, so we can be better people, besides, wildlife coexists better than most human habitats.
Was just about to comment that pigs are Omnivores. Wild pigs and boars are vicious.
Also, foxes are omnivores as well. Nick was enjoying those blueberries too.
Yeah, it's half similar with how people judge others off of their skin. You see someone with more melanin and assume they're black, only to find out later they're also a russian-itallian mix. So you can't put that person in one box just bc of their looks, this is something that happened with Obama too, he isn't *just* black, he's actually pretty mixed in his ethnicity, which would actually make him the first mixed president as wel as the first black.
It's something that happens to a lot of us on the daily just because it's easier than explaining the complexities of it all. Most peeps of the LGBTQ+ understand this a lot when it comes to gender and gender labels.
It's an interesting thought but chances are they'd be treated as separate faction and would prejudices against them as well.
@@Mysticgamer Foxes are not omnivores, they are quite carnivorous. Foxes, like a lot of canines, are capable of eating vegetable matter, such as berries, they are however evolutionarily meat eaters, the only exception is the manned wolf, which is a true omnivorous canine.
Dawn set up for predators to take the blame for the sheep was Doug that sparked the panic. Dawn used Judy as a pawn only stopping the interview when fear of only predators going savage got out. Same sheep that almost ran over Nick. So that question was on purpose.
The things I feel like people always forget to talk about when talking about this movie is how it isn't just a "one-way" discrimination. In real life, discrimination happens all the time, and it happens "both ways." The prey are often judged by how small and weak they look. For example, when the leapord guy tells Judy she looks cute, Judy gets defensive because she things everyone else thinks that bunnies are cute. She feels judged based on her species. We then obviously see things like this scene, where she does the same sort of thing back. She labels all predators as potentially dangerous. The same thing goes with the fox spray, and all that other stuff.
The thing that makes this even deeper is that we understand the reason why the characters do the things they do and say the things they say. We understand that the prey was once hunted by predators, and we also understand that Judy was bullied by a predator. When she talks about the predators reverting back to their wild ways, it makes sense to us why she would say those things, because she has a sort of justification behind it. That doesn't make it right, but we can understand. The same thing again happens in the real world. We judge people because of our own experiences, whether it's upbringing, personal experiences, or ignorance. It just goes to show how tricky the whole topic of discrimination is, and how it really is a problem we all struggle with. All we can do is try to better ourselves, and be careful not to come up with labels so quickly, or at all for that matter.
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100%! Prey having less notable discrimination is very much like the real world..people think only minorities can be discriminated against, like how predators get most of the noticeable discrimination in the movie; but discrimination isn't a one way street as how Judy is treated by predators (and even by the prey in the police office when she first joins) shows this well! She's called cute, told to do carrot farming, treated like a tiny thing not capable of anything but simple tasks like ticketing or farming because "that's what bunnies do"..it's discrimination albeit not as loud or intense/harsh as what's done to predators. How she's treated heavily reminds me of short people actually..we're constantly teased or called cute and tiny for our height, underestimated and people in stores commonly ask if we want help as if we can't even do something as simple as shopping; people over look how discriminated short people are even if it's not as extreme as things like racism or whatnot.
This is the only movie I can think of where the prejudice of the main character is so directly confronted. A lot of movies challenge similar issues, but this one actually forces people to consider their own views and actions
In the wrong hands politics in film are heavy handed, distracting from the story, and quickly make films seem dated. It takes a lot of filmmaking talent to pull off what the Zootopia team did here to have a more universal message that speaks to a wider audience.
The movie is called "Zootopia" in America, so every time you said "Zootropolis" I had to remind myself what I was listening to. I kind of prefer Zootopia as a name, actually, because "-opolis" just means city, but "-topia" brings to mind a utopia, and NO utopia is ever actually a utopia, so it's kind of foreshadowing.
I even prefer the name Zootopia
I wish they had left scar on her cheek from when Gideon scratched her, and draw some emphasis to it like when she is deciding whether or not to take the repellent with her we'd see her reach up to touch her scar stopping about an inch away. And when she's in her office have both the spray and Nick's application on her desk while she's touching her scar.
Bit you can't hve the bad mean eviI rac/ist have convincing motivations beyond "being bad"!!
I think that's way too on the nose, to the point of being pretentious.
The scene I found the most inspiring personally was without a doubt Gideon's reappearance as a pie seller.
It's just so wholesome and oddly satisfying to see who was once a bully and seen as a threat to Judy's family now cooperating with them because of Judy's impact to her parents, even after all the damage she inflicted.
I just noticed in the scene where Lionheart said "This could destroy Zootropolis!" you can tell his lip syncing was still for Zootopia. I wonder why the UK version of the film wss changed from Topia to Tropolis... It seems like such an insignificant and unneccessary change.
It's Zootropolis in Europe specifically because of a zoo in Denmark holding the copyright, not just the UK
Kinda like Moana being Vaiana only over there
@@leahdavis9434 it's called Oceania in come countries too.
@@leahdavis9434 The character Moana is called Vaiana in Italy, because of a prominent adult film star named Moana.
@@Jose04537 I know the reason. But the reason for Zootopia is very similar, the name was already in use so they picked a different one.
I’ve said this before and I’ll continue saying it until I die: Zootopia is this century’s Animal Farm. A relevant sociopolitical allegory for all to consume and understand.
The video should definitely have one of my fave lines of the scene
"Nick you're not like them!"
"So there's a 'them' now?"
Such a small but incredible line.
Zootropolis was one of the pits film I ever watched within a month of it coming out and it’s still in my top 5 movies of all time
Damn the bots like this post clearly
Disney is sure taking their time with the sequel. I hope it doesn't get canceled or something that would be so sad.
Yeah.
We can only hope
I dunno man, Disney animated sequels have been... not great.
especially because this is my favorite movie, its just so good, i hope they do a good job with the second one if they make it :/
Honestly I would LOVE if they made a full sequel exploring other animals like birds and lizards and how that would into Zootopia. But it NEEDS to have a damn good story and hopefully not rehash already explored themes from the first one. And more of Judy and Nick being buddy cops cuz its adorable.
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It’s actually a common misconception that pigs are herbivores! Pigs are known to eat practically anything, making them omnivores! Hope this helps!
I think in this movie, a pig would be a herbivore, since pretty much every animal doesn’t eat meat (I think)
"Common misconception" Is it? I'm not trying to be smart or anything, it's just that when I was in school and we would talk about carni-, herbi-, omnivores, the most common examples for omnivores we would be given (other than humans) were boars/pigs. So reading people generally think they're herbivores seems rather strange.
Hi, lovely video, just wanted to mention that some people speculate that Judy reached for her Fox repellent instinctively due to her own personal childhood trauma with Gideon Grey, and that’s why she reacted when Nick jumped. Just thought I’d point that out, awesome video!!! I love how you dissected how slimy reporters can be
Nope it has to deal with her bigotry against foxes. Don't forget about the ice cream scene.
@@catherineterry1111 it can be both. She had trauma from a predator and her early interaction with Gideon both fuelled the stereotypes of "predator bad" for her because the only person who traumatised her was a predator like the stereotypes say. She knew not all predators are the same or fit stereotypes but she has had experience that fuelled them and was taught that early on. She's clearly trying to unlearn what she was taught about the prejudices but they were taught so early that she just overlooked the signs of prejudice like the foc repellent
i feel like what's going on in this movie can be related to what our government is doing to blind us with racism, sexism, etc.
true
Also:Racism dont exist, uuuuh bruuuhh
@@atanaZion your brain doesn't either
@@candyoblivion6228 Sure
@@atanaZion sir, the kkk is still sort of around. There is an entire movement against racism. COPS ARE SHOOTING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN TONE
Small fact: while pigs are often portrayed as herbivores, they are actually omnivores - just like humans. They will happily hunt smaller prey or eat scavenged large corpses.
Meat is fantastic for their health, but we do not feed FARMED pigs meat as meat can easily go off or carry diseases. We need to be careful about how we prepare meat for human consumption - that level of care cannot be taken on a mass farming scale for pigs.
Pigs CAN thrive on a purely herbivorous diet - just like humans - but also like humans, pigs are naturally omnivorous.
Same with chickens. Their ideal diet includes meat such as snakes, lizards, mice, small birds, bugs and scavenged larger animals.
Judy:"I mean its not like a bunny can go savage."
Let me say this watch Watership down if you have not seen it. But I gonna give a warning first it is pretty graphical and some few children would maybe be scared, so maybe watch it with a adult and stop if you can't finnish the movie, or let a adult watch it first so they can tell if you can watch it or not. I know some adults grew up with that movies from their was a children, but maybe todays genaration who have been mostly secured/protected by the modern society would not probably manage to see the movie, except some children.
I don't think I can watch that one. I can watch people getting slaughtered all day, but when it's animals I'm a wreck.
I read the book. Its incredible but definitely not for the weak stomachs. And yes, it proves Judy is very wrong in that statement 🤣
Yo perrero sola
Watership Down gave me nightmares for weeks as a child.
But is it a brilliant movie? Absolutely.
Bad Bunny
I actually disagree about the part with Judy almost using the repellent useless or weak. I've never seen anyone else ever saying that, so I can't say for sure that it was intentional, but when I first saw this part in the cinema, it clicked for me in a painfull way. With how the shot was made, it gave me an immediate flashback to Judy's childhood, the moment when she kicked Gideon in the nose and he attacked her, giving her a cut. She wasn't badly hurt, of course. But remember how scared she was while he loomed over her, flaunting about how pray used to be eaten by predeters like him years ago, and then jumped at her with a growl and claws. That could have given Judy, well, I don't think trauma is a fitting word, but that could have given her a reason to act like that. She wasn't actually afraid of Nick, after all. With the way her movements were animated, I can say that it looks a lot like a sort of knee-jerk reaction to him making a threatening motion while looming over her, very similarly to what Gideon did. It doesn't help that he's a fox too.
Judy only deserves some empathy. Don't forget she almost spray Nick for no reason for getting ice cream. The only reason she didn't because Judy thought he was a father and was being discriminate. Dude almost got ran over and she investigated him for bias reasons. Nick the victim not her and he was never going to hurt her it was just to show her.
Judy: (Quickly solves a complicated mathematical problem) “I may be just a dumb bunny, but we are good at multiplying.”
(It’s a sex joke)
I think the Nick "Think I might eat you>" scene would have been better if he just started growling mid argument. And then he would stop to point out her reaching for her fox spray. But the point is still driven home. I love this movie.
I also liked when Nick finds out about Judy's family having blueberries, and he eats them happily and saves some for later
(which is used later in the plot)
But it also shows the fact that while foxes _are_ predators_ , they AREN'T carnivores...They're OMNIVORES.
I mean they are considered the ultimate survivor's and has the highest population
Wait wait wait? It's called zootropolis elsewhere? Why? That's so weird it's changed. Even if it's only called Zootopia here in America it's still weird that it was changed to that for one or a select few countries.
Anyway. I love this movie. It's impressive how well the subject was handled and remained just an overall joy to watch.
haha it’s called Zootopia here in Australia as well
In Europe Zootopia was already trademarked
Idk there was some Danish zoo that was also called zootopia
And some copyright issues happened
So they changed it to zootropolis in most of Europe
(and in Germany they even changed zootropolis to zoomania Because it sounded similar to zootopolis witch was also trademarked)
It’s not even only in America. It’s always been called Zootopia here in New Zealand too.
It's called Zoomania here in Germany lol
That scene on the train where the rabbit mom pulled her child closer when a tiger sat next to them and she looked fearful... yeah that hit too close to home. Definitely one of Disney's best.
Don't think we're gonna get a sequel about police brutality but it would be interesting.
I've heard rumors they're planning a sequel. If they tackle police brutality or another complicated and relevant topic, that'd make my day. I also would like to see interracial couples addressed too, but maybe that's my bias because I ship Judy and Nick. Just as long as it isn't a generic storyline for the sake of a cash-grab, I'd look forward to it.
@@starsiadraws The probability of them butchering the topic is quite high.
The beauty of Zootopia is that it showcases both sides of the story. Hollywood will definitely jump on a certain agenda.
The story doesn’t need to get that dark, honestly. Remember that it’s still a comedy.
They won't. ON the nose and only more relevant to less developed countries.
@@starsiadraws I don't trust them with sequels anymore; odds are all the good things about it are gonna be destroyed just like in most sequels and reboots in recent years...
This movie was such a good film, great characters, great story, great world building! ect. And i reallllly hope more is made in this universe. The more we declare we love this movie, hopefully, the more will be made of it.
Pst, hey, we’re getting a Disney+ series!
Exactly! I find it crazy that despite the film's incredible popularity it hasnt gotten anywhere near as much content from Disney as its other properties, well at least until now!
@Mom lol you’re welcome, love the movie too!
@a.starribunni it made my night to hear it made your day 😊 I’m excited too!
It'd be cool if they tackle autonomy rights - considering the "be who you want to be" messaging present in the first movie. What if one species really identifies as another? There's already pressure for Judy to be like other bunnies. So many angles to explore.
Oh your title "Zootropolis" made me think there was a sequel I didn't know about lol
Haha good one!
No, it’s what it’s called in another country (don’t really know which place know)
@@silashurd3597 most countries use zootropolis
@@HyperrealisticLuigi ohh. Ok
@@HyperrealisticLuigi Western Europe isn't most countries
You should talk about Nick’s cut scenes that could’ve changed the entire movie.
Yesssss the whole original plot for the film that was darker! Ngl the world building and themes in that film was equally as hard hitting and epic, but I'm happy they changed direction.
@@jamesw5287 I do think that there were some great idea's that were cut and it's a shame we will never get to see them in full. Though luckily we also got beastars that deals with a lot of those themes.
@@ultgamercw6759 Agreed! Though I've never seen Beastars, I did read about it and it sounds like another interesting take on the concept!
@@jamesw5287 If you are curious about the scrapped scenes from this film then id recommend watching Beastars. It does go for a much more mature and darker theme that we rarely get with anthro characters.
@@ultgamercw6759 yo i haven’t watched that in a while. is there a new season?
Her flinching with the fox repellent was most likely a result from the time she was attacked when she was 9. Gideon literally got up in her face, claws out, and scratched her. It was probably an instinctive response to that event
this scene reminds me of that quote, I honestly don’t remember who said it, but it’s like “there’s a difference between raclst behaviour and raciaIIy insensitive behaviour, but that difference doesn’t really matter when you’re on the receiving end.”
we sympathise with Judy, we understand that she was pushed into a corner by the reporters’ questions, but we also understand that what she said was, intentionally or not, fear mongering, and it ended up causing a lot of harm.
but even if she hadn’t said that stuff to a room full of reporters, and she’d just been talking to Nick, it would’ve still been like a micro aggression, and his feelings are completely understandable, even if it didn’t just trigger his childhood trauma (which it obviously did).
the one thing I wish they would’ve done is portray Nick a bit more sympathetically, wether that would be through dialogue or camera angles. even though most grownups and older teens are able to see his perspective in this scene, when I watched this movie for the first time, while I did understand that Nick was hurt, I saw it mainly as a misunderstanding, and not a Judy actually letting some internal biases get the better of her and saying something harmful.
from her perspective, it wasn’t really wasn’t intended, and was at most a bit thoughtless and insensitive. but that, understandably, doesn’t really make a difference for Nick, and I just think his perspective could’ve been portrayed a bit better in the movie - but I agree that this is an overall great scene.
I thought you were talking about a short I didn't know existed. Until I remembered you're from the UK, which means ZooTropolis is the Uk name for ZooTopia
I draw special attention to the fact that the one asking the leading question was a SHEEP. A minion of the actual villain was the one who tricked Judy into helping forward the villain's goals.
This really is an excellent example of gaslighting. This sort of thing runs rampant in news media and politics today. You can see the damage it causes in this movie, of which is my favorite new animated film Disney has done. But it's important to take this scene in and remember it and recognize when this is done in reality. There are so many narratives being spun to divide people today, it's good to recognize this when you see it, and this scene, and movie over all is a good reminder that we all have a lot more in common than we think, and just because media touts that issues exist, doesn't mean that it's true or as bad as they make it out to be.
Maybe I'm missing something (probably) but is that gaslighting? I understand gaslighting in the sense of media and politicians etc diminishing the pain groups of people went through by spinning the narrative and making other people victims (who wernt) and essentially saying it wasn't a big deal in history or for the group and ignoring it. Or have I just reworded your comment, I just can't really think of examples of that in zootropolis
That’s not gaslighting. It’s pushing a narrative. Gaslighting is denying objective reality and trying to convince the victim that they’re imagining it all and/or going insane. It’s a form of lying intended to make the victim question their own perception of reality. The gaslighter doesn’t believe what they’re saying. They know what happened.
I agree, this is a great scene. Also the reason why Judy has such a big reaction to Nicks 'Eat you' is because its reactionary to what we've seen earlier of her as a kid. When Gideon harmed her. But that is also where her pejudices come from, as we see in her little show from the beginning. Judy is quite literally retelling her own show + some of the things the raccoon said to the mayor.
Zootopia: It's not like a bunny could go savage.
Monty Python: Look at the bones!!!
Why change the name of the movie
Judy jumping at Nick trying to scare her felt like the right move. Why? Because JUDY WAS ATTACKED AS A CHILD. Reaching for a defense weapon is a response to danger, and Judy’s subconscious knows how to recognize danger from experience.
Actually, if you don’t really like the “I might try to eat you” line, I really recommend seeing this scene in the Latin Spanish dub
It’s honestly really great how much it changes the tone
4:25 That's Doug, the Breaking Bad sheep in the lab at the end of the movie. Someone pointed out that his number was in Dawn's office. He was probably instructed to ask that specific question, or lead Judy to that conclusion, so the whole scheme could work. Interesting detail.
My God, I love this scene!
It gives an extreme new taste of how racism works without the whole *"Oh it's all white people's fault"* shenanigan
It gives a brand new perspective of how racism can start or how an individual can be judged based on their people's history of being violent not them as a person.
When Nick said *"Oh there's a THEM now?"* my jaw dropped knowing full well of what direction the movie was going, in fact this whole movie shows a lot of messages.
Judy Hopps wasn't judged for being a cop because she was a female or a prey, she was judged because she was a Bunny.
A Bunny is judged for being too small, only known for carrot farming, and for living out on the country side.
When Nick was trying to buy a jumbo pop the owner immediately thought A FOX was trying to start trouble and even Judy was about ready to attack him when he hasn't even done anything.
When Judy presented Nick as a witness to show the officers that she wasn't crazy Chief Boggo asked why should he trust a Fox (because Foxes are considered sly and sneaky).
When Nick wanted to be a scout he was attacked by the other members because they didn't want to be near a predator without a muzzle on it.
I love this movie so damn much because the messages aren't shoehorned in like some retarded political message.
It shows us how a race can be judged because of its people's history or how some people aren't looked at as individuals but just someone who might start trouble when you haven't even met them yet.
Zootopia is OUTSTANDINGLY ahead of it's time and I give it a 9.2/10👌
I remember watching this movie for the first time and thinking "damn, this is some heavy stuff."
I had the same reaction when leaving the theater.
To me the best part was when Judy turned in her badge. The camera remains on the badge as she walks out the door. The word "integrity" facing forward in the word circle of the badge. The movie is indicating that if you believe you are doing more harm than good in your position, then taking a step back instead of ignoring the error give you integrity.
it's still wild to me that disney "let's make our movies as bland and marketable to literally everyone on earth so we make tons of money" disney would ever make a film like this, much less a really good film
I just noticed a small detail where the felines next to the gazelle pin their ears back at her question, and seem offended, showing the instant reaction to her response
The thing I really admire about this is the way they addressed Judy's own hidden biases without detracting from or ruining her overall character. It would've been so easy to have Judy believe her own biases and become the prejudice she always fought against, and then realizing the error of her ways later on. Instead she comes to that realization immediately after the press conference, but the damage has already been done and she has to witness the consequences of it all, and despite others assuring her she didn't do anything wrong, she does take responsibility. And I think it addresses an uncomfortable, but important truth about all of us regarding the race, gender and sex conflict.
As much as we try to be on the side of justice and equality for all, our own upbringings ultimately determine how we see the world, and we tend to categorize certain aspects that can lead to a bias that prevents us from seeing the bigger picture. That doesn't automatically mean we're prejudiced or ignorant, but if we're unwilling to let go and recognize those faults within ourselves and the perspectives of others with differing values, then ignorance and discrimination will always prevail.
when I first watched it, I never realized how impactful this was, but looking back on it.....that was intense!
but yeah, this is one of my favorite movies, I always watched it when I was younger and it fills me with warm feelings when I watch it! 😊
I don't watch it anymore cause every time I do some one calls me a furry ;-;
Alright I love Zootopia, but something has always bothered me about it's commentary on racism. It's just that choosing predators and prey is a horrible decision, because unlike with different races where the only difference is skin color and facial features and warrants no reasoning for why they would be less trustworthy or more dangerous, in an animal world we're talking about species that are literally designed to kill. I mean, a Lion literally has teeth and claws made to kill prey. It's how they're designed. While small pray animals can go savage, it's not like they can eat someone or tip them to shreds like a big cat can or a wolf. They weren't designed to do that, but predators were. So that conclusion really wasn't far off or even racist, it was scientifically sound. Trying to compare characters that actually do have dangerous physical differences to races of people that have little to no physical differences that would make one more threatening over the other is just really misleading. A fox, a creature literally evolved to hunt and kill rabbits. It is not unfair for a rabbit to be afraid of a fox. I mean, women carry around pepper spray to protect themselves from rapists. Is it bad for a prey animal to carry an equivalent? Unlike in the real world, there's just reason to say a predator is dangerous, because they...are. Meanwhile, minorities are not more dangerous than white people. So, again, that comparison is just faulty
This is my issue with using different species as an allegory for race. Orcs are a similar case in fantasy. The issue lies in exactly as you put it. Human racism has literally no basis in reality. The only difference between a black man and a white man is the colour of skin. There's no "sub species" thing going on, no real difference at all. It's the equivalent of a dog that's brown and a dog thats a darker brown. Race is socially constructed. But species aren't, an Orc is literally a different type of creature than a human. And they are often portrayed as having actual instincts towards aggressive behaviour. So trying to use them as an allegory for black people (or other races) completely reinforces the racist idea that different races of humans actually have any real level of difference.
@@thefabulouskitten7204 exactly!
It’s an allegory for prejudice, not racism specifically. The prey and predators aren’t default stand ins for “white vs. black”. Rather, the characters here are dealing with their own unique kinds of social issues. The writers were wise enough to mix in problems that only an animal society could deal with, as opposed to any real world ethnicity.
I really agree with some of this, especially given different biology means different diseases.
Having a doctor/scientist mention biology... then Judy repeats that is a huge issue.
It is completely realistic from the Panther and Otter to infer something is involving Biology and causing them to revert. They both experienced it and both came in contact while none of the prey animals have been effected. And the scientist/doctor who mentioned it might be tied with biology... after having the predators and studying them.
This movie legitimately could've went zombie apocalypse from predators.
The fact a flower can interrupt the brain's functions infinitely and be completely undetectable otherwise doesn't help.
@@hawklindbergh Of course, I still think it's fun and relatively well done, but I still think they should have at least made the animal species way more equaled out in someway because it's protraying different types of people as considerably different from each other and I think still sends a mixed message overall, and the racism angle is the most common. The fact is we're all the same, that's what we need to see. Trying to show different species that legitimately pose a threat to each other and then being judged for being afraid is just..misleading? But at the end of the day I don't think kids will really care
Something tells me that a trilogy of this would be a bad idea...
This scene always stuck with me for the exact reasons you stated. The interview and her inability to handle it with grace just, hurt/hit different. Having an "ally" speak for you when they don't have those sorts of skills is frustrating, and also kinda terrifying. I felt so much for Nick
So many confused Americans in the comments. It’s called Zootopia in many countries, but in some regions it had to be changed due to trademark issues. I know in Europe the word “Zootopia” is owned by a zoo corporation. Same reason Moana is called Vaiana in some regions and why Wandavision had to be renamed “Scarlett Witch and Vision” in Spain.
This is such an AMAZING breakdown of this scene! Makes me really fascinated by and appreciative of the work of both storyboards and journalists!
The fact that the little sheep was conspiring it all in a divisive powergrab, going as far as trying to have Nick kill Judy really showed her true face. I really enjoyed the movie and the way they created the fur on them is next level.
Zootropolis? Yo mean Zootopia? I'm kidding I know it's called that in other regions. I love Zootopia! It's my favorite movie of all time! Well... it's actually Lady and the Tramp but they are close to each other. One question: Do you know about the original plans for Zootopia and how it was dark but then it was changed to what we know and love? Also I want a sequel to Zootopia, luckily there is a fan made one called Return to Zootpia which is amazing and I highly recommend it.
btw it's called zoomania in germany :D
Ur just assuming that he is the wrong one so u typed in "I'm kidding" to protect urself
@@bryzenishizuka9961 No I was addressing that I am aware of the name changed in other places.
@@spikeuracil I honestly like zoomania more. Sounds fun
@@Br00ke291 zoo mania sounds like a drug town
I think the whole deal with the twist villain wasn't so bad, but I know a lot of people hate it. So honestly, I think they could've gone with a more subtle, underground society of anti-predator extremists who worked together to cause all the savage targeting. Because even once someone is convicted or caught, the general problem continues to exist. A more realistic approach to representing prejudice and racism. Because no matter what is done, it will always be a problem in some shape or form.. It's nothing that can be solved overnight or fixed. The problems caused by Judy's little speech and the panic inducing fear mongering that started as a result would _not_ have gone away with the arrest of Bellweather and her goons. Paranoia and fear lingers. People are narrow minded and ignorant.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but at 11:47, when Nick mentions Judy's fox repellent, his eyes show sadness, likely due to the sense of betrayal. Also, his back is completely straight, unlike his usual lax nature. In the few previous moments, he had an arced back, but straightened up after started to get upset with Judy.
Zootopia, or Zootropolis, is the entire reason I have 90% of my friends. I met them on a forum where people discussed it when it came out. It's a movie that really has had an impact on my life and I appreciate this video a lot.
This is off topic but seriously good picks on soundtracks in this video. I recognized like nearly all of them from different franchises I love especially, the Mario Galaxy and Halo 3 ODST osts. You've got good taste. Good video mate, really cool analysis on the scene. I'll have to share this with previously mentioned friends.
In my country is called zootopia so that name sounds incredibly weird
USA. Yeah, I get you man
@@oliviawilde5646 why are you here?
Something I just noticed is the way that Bellweather pushes Judy off the stage, almost shoving her out of the way now that she's done what she needs her to
If you didn't already know, in Britain and some other places 'Zootopia' is called 'Zootropolis'.
Oh thats like in Latin America where is called zootopia but in Soain is called Zootropolis.
I've come to a conclusion, the reason that Disney animation hasn't made a lot of memorable movies recently is because of John Lasseter being fired following after a debate about how he handled himself. And, coincidently this happened a month after the release of Moana in 2016 so hey Dazz now you got your awnser
*Moana
@Ryandal Gilmore i really hope you get your brain cells back someday
@@BerserkGoblin Ana*
This scene is my favorite go to for explaining implicit bias. Judy Hopps is genuinely a good person (mammal?), she genuinely wants to make the world a better place, she genuinely believes that she is making the world a better place, everything she does, she does for the right reasons. And yet, she still causes an incredible amount of harm, because she is unaware of what unconscious biases she has. It isn't until she is forced to reflect on exactly what it is that she said that she realizes that maybe she wasn't as color blind as she thought she was. It is a good lesson for all of us to reflect on. We might genuinely be good people and genuinely want to make the world a better place and genuinely not want to be biased, but that will only happen if we make a conscious effort at it, lest we fall back on biases that we might not even be aware of because they were so subtly taught to us.
I find it interesting that the herbivores were preying on Judy’s flight or flight response.
One thing that i absolutely is the fact you can't attribute the metaphor to anything. It's a parallel world, made to make us think about our own without trying to give us the answers
I felt SO bad for Judy when this scene happened. Part of me was surprised the movie was actually going there, but it did a very good job.
I'm a furry, so this will probably sound bias, but this really is my all time favorite movie.
Same I love this movie
If you want a mature zootopia movie they should have stuck with the movie being told from nicks point of view. Also pigs are omnivores they eat any food you put in front of them.
I thought for sure that the scene that you were going to focus on was the scene where Judy apologized to Nick (the scene under the bridge). THAT scene changed the movie for me.
Watching this video, the scene changed the movie for me too, because in front of the police station, there are the news vehicles. There is a regular Zootopia-style van, and a giraffe car, but next to that giraffe car is just a random 1995 Ford Econoline which they didn’t even try to redesign. They took off the badges and they were like “Okay, I’m done here!”
Personally, I believe that the scene where nick wilde is treated horribly by the "scouts" is the most important in the movie as it gives him character depth and gives the watcher a reason to care for his development and reason because we feel sympathy for him.
I immediately thought of this scene. Its the kind you dont want to hear but you cant look away
this movie is still great! I watched it when it came out in theaters and hyped for Zootopia + and Zootopia 2
Same!
Even if Judy and Nick don't play a major part in the Plus series. We could see them cameo at points.
Both in the background, and in small parts of the episodes.
Like in the Mr.Big backstory one.. It could start with Judy hanging with Fru Fru and her daughter, and asking about Mr. Big's past or something.
In the Flash date episode, we could have the background speeding by *since sloths would move slowly normally* and see cameos of various characters in the background. Including nick and judy possibly on a date or something.
In the Bogo and Clawhauser episode, they could be dancing in the background.
In the Bonnie and Stu episode, obviously.. Nick and Judy could be there during the festival or whatever is going on.
Plus.. At the very least we could see what other animals are sentient in this movie's universe. Like are only mammals affected, or are reptiles and birds also affected.
As well as locations... We could find out actual CANON locations, which could give more places fans could use in fanfictions and such.