How To: Honda CRF300L/Rally - Zeta XC Handguard Fitting
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- How To: Honda CRF300L/Rally - Zeta XC Handguard Fitting
This video is the replacement of the stock handguards on my 2021 Honda CRF300 Rally. The bars and guards are the same fitting for the CRF300L so this video can be used for both versions.
The stock guards are not particularly robust, and are so flexible that they are likely to cause the loss of a lever in the event of an off.
I have replaced them with the Zeta rails for taper bars and XC guards:
www.dirtbikexpress.co.uk/bike...
00:00 Introduction
00:56 Left overview
01:09 Right overview
1:26 Left stock guard removal
2:26 Stock and Zeta comparison
2:59 Left side fitting
6:30 Right stock guard removal
7:20 Right side fitting
10:30 Conclusion
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Another master video on the CRF Rally! You have become my "go to" guy for this bike. Much appreciated.
Thanks Henry, you’re welcome. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king 🤣🤣🤣
You’ve done the best detailed XC handguard installation video on TH-cam
Thanks Kenneth. It was lockdown. I had time 🤣
Well done, and thanks for the demonstration.
I hope to make the same upgrade to my CRF when it comes in.
I like those articulating hex wrenches you’re using here.
Happy Trails
The hex wrenches are more popular than the videos! 🤣. They don’t come cheap but are readily available and are made by Bondhus and are called Hex-Pro. They also do similar torx wrenches. (I have a BMW too...)
Just got a new 2023 Rally 300, Great video and answered some questions that I had, Thanks for the video and keep them coming, Thanks
Awesome, I must admit that I haven’t done much with my ‘300 for a while, but there’s a big playlist with (I think) over 60 videos…
Just got mine on! Different issue with my stock handlebars though. Both ends were plugged with a solid steel plug a good 3/4” deep, threaded of course with a 6mm hole.
Bit of extra work. Had to drill out the hole with a larger hole and re-tap with a M-8x1.25 thread tap.
I then had to put an oversized SS nut between the handlebar and drop down arm to use as a spacer in order to get the clearance on the throttle grip.
All in all it has worked out well and looks great 😊
Fine work. The oversized SS nut sounds like a good solution! Happy riding 👍
Thanks for another great tutorial, Andre. What makes it stand out in my opinion it that you make clear why you change the original handguards and why the new Zetas are better suited to your purposes. Others may rave about beauties like Rizoma ;-)
The rizomas are a work of art. But after they’ve bashed a few rocks, they’ll be all scratched 🤣. And they do seem to charge a bit for their stuff!
@@PeakMotorcycles Yes, Andre, I agree. What a work of art this hammer is - no scratches at all ;-) An enduro is a tool. Things have to be rugged, not look rugged.
Thanks for your videos. Just got mine back in July and enjoy watching what one can do to customize and improve the motorcycle. From America, thank you!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching. It’s a lockdown hobby that got out of hand! 🤣
@@PeakMotorcycles nothing wrong with that!
Brilliant! Really helpful and clear. Much appreciated
You’re welcome.
Got one of these on order from Honda hopefully get it sometime in September can’t wait
Nice. Sounds like a reasonable lead time at the moment. I did wonder if Honda would get better with their supply chain now that things are returning to normal.
Awesome! Hope the lockdown end soon, so you can ride again!
Monday 29th 🤣. 6 days to go. Then the videos can stop! I think that would be best for everyone!
Top job bud 👌🏻
Thanks. Lockdown ends in a week and daylight savings in the UK kicks in, so I'm trying to get as many videos done before I can go for evening rides!
So no issues with clearance from screen on full lock (with the risers)? I found that challenging with Barkbusters plus risers on the stock bars. Had to angle the handguards down more than ideal.
No issues for me, though the SW-Motech risers had some forward/backward adjustment which had to be checked to make sure the guards didn’t snag the screen. It’s tight, but I didn’t have any problems.
I heated the Barkbusters plastic and eased it back a bit to stop any contact on mine.
Hi Andre, great videos. I finally got my Rally and am putting on handguards. My question is around getting off the weighted bar ends. I finally got the black weighted ends off using the duct tape and brute force method. Once off, I found that in my handlebar tube ends are a silver receiver nut that's very tightly embedded in the tube somehow. I cannot see how to get them out. How did you get them out? I cannot install my handguards without removing this piece.
I didn’t. I switched my bars to the Renthal fat bars, and the inserts are still in my stock ones on a shelf in the garage. I appreciate this isn’t particularly helpful, for which I can only apologise.
Choices for you (if the stock bars are the right height) are to get some other 22mm bars, the Renthal ones are rather good, as are the ProTapers. It saves weight and they are stronger.
If you’d rather stick with stock, first make sure that the inner clamp for your handguards can attach without being constrained by the fixed cross brace on the stock bars. I know this didn’t work for some.
If that bit is ok, then your choices for the end inserts are to drill them out or to re-tap them to the size of the bolts for your guards. I think re-tapping them is the better solution as they are fixed in really well. That said, I haven’t done it myself, so if you can find someone who has, they could say for sure.
My apologies that I don’t have a full answer for you but that’s the best I can offer not having done it.
@@PeakMotorcycles That's all excellent context and advice. I'll consider these options as I proceed.
@@rjandres17 hi Rob, I have the same issue with the stock Rally bars, I managed to get the (Oxfords)grips off but that core is not budging. I phoned my dealer but said you just depress the tabs you can see through the holes on the bars, easier said than done! Have you made progress? any advice greatly received 🙏
Hi Andre, put the Barkbusters on my 300 Rally yesterday. When I did the throttle side (right) I put the clamp connecting the handguard OVER (on top) of the brake line. Any reason that is bad? Just saw you did yours UNDER the line. You seem more experienced than me, but I can't see a reason why it being over the line would be a problem.
Nope, I think the brackets for each type of guard are different, so go with whatever snags the throttle cable the least. As long as that’s free (lock to lock) then either way is fine.
Broke my clutch lever last weekend so bought some zeta levers for my rally and picked up a set of zeta handguards today to protect my investment so this video is very helpful ! Quick question about the plastic washer on the throttle side , Is that from the already installed bar ends that come with the bike stock or something seperate I need to buy ? I'm not seeing one in my kit I bought
No, I don’t think it comes with the bike. On the L I think you have regular grips that cover the end. On the Rally there are bar end weights. I’m pretty sure the plastic washer came with the guards. It’s to have a low friction surface between the guard and the twist throttle. Maybe check the bag or see if it’s stuck to anything? I had to check twice for mine.
Thank you
You're welcome
Again great video, I have used your videos for tons of research to prepare for my rally. This time it was for the triple clamp bolt orientation (forward vs side). I may try the triple clamp mounts from Zeta for the handguards. Lots of pros and cons . Why did you go with bar clamps?
Hi Brian, I didn’t know there was another option! The triple clamp fittings look interesting, but I’m not sure how well they’d work with the fat bar conversion risers. If you’re using a 22mm handlebar, then I expect they’d be ok. If you’re going to a 28mm bar and have the 20mm risers, I wonder if that lifts it too far from the triple clamp mounting point? I’d be interested to know how it works out though.
Here is the video that brought it to my attention. He is using the Chub Tusk fatbars with risers. Looks super solid. Its a 300l but should work w/ the rally. Adventure Daily is his channel, th-cam.com/video/KXJ6ukgVZOM/w-d-xo.html
Andre, looking to get these handguards for my rally. The only thing not shown in your video is the clearance between the handguard and windscreen lock to lock. I assume there was no problem. Also thinking of getting the front mounting (ZE71-1821) that goes on the triple tree, do you believe that would work. Saw a video from Jake TheGardenSnake where he installed them on the 300L
Hi Chris, the lock to lock windscreen clearance was the only near touching point. The front mounting looks interesting but I haven’t tried them I’m afraid so can’t really say one way or another. After this video I switched from 50mm to 20mm risers, but that actually brought the bar slightly closer to the screen (but there was still clearance).
Nice video ! I will soon have a crf300l, since the rally isn't sold in France.
I'm looking for handguards, just for the wind. Can i put the rally's stock handguards on the crf300l ? Would be perfect.
I haven’t tried, but if the brackets are the same and you can find some then maybe. That said, the stock rally handguards aren’t great. They might keep the wind off your hands but not a lot else.
Morning Andre, nice job! I was peeping through my fingers at the start waiting to see if you dropped any fittings tools etc on the tank ;-) I always cover with a towel when I'm fitting bars or hand guards. I learnt the hard way with a nice ding in my fuel tank once. What make are your allen wrenches they are superb?
Hi, Good point, perhaps I've just got lucky so far! The hex wrenches are from a company called Bondhus and are called Hex Pro wrenches. I have a set of Hex's and a set of Torx's (I have a BMW too... they don't appear to be a fan of hex bolts!)
They aren't particularly cheap compared to others, but they are quite useful.
Thank you so much for this video. I want to install these on my 2022 CRF 300 L rally. How did you remove the black screws or weights on each end of the handlebar? Was your handlebar the original one that came with the motorcycle? And my last question, are there any modifications that have to be done to original handlebar that comes with the motorcycle to install the hand guards in your video? Thanks
Hi Karim, I just unscrewed them. The initial handlebar was the original one, the new one is a Renthal fatbar (so I didn’t have to get the inserts out!). I have not installed the handguards on the original bar, in fact I don’t think they can be fitted, as the welded crossbar on the stock bar is about where the clamps go and the clamps on these guards are for a 28mm fatbar. Stock is 22mm.
@@PeakMotorcycles Thank you! I appreciate the feedback.
Hi, I am currently driving the CRF 250 Rally and looking to change the stock hand-guard with a similar hand-guard as your in this video. I was just wondering that for the handlebar, did you have to change the handlebar because when i cut the end bit of my handlebar grip to insert the bolt that hold the metal bar for the handguard, the hole wasn't big enough so any advice on what I should do? Cheers mate!
Do you have inserts in the end of your bars? On the 300 Rally there are threaded inserts in the end for the bar end weights. If I’d used the stock bar, these would have needed to come out or be drilled and tapped. The Zeta guards did come with handlebar bolts in two sizes, one for alloy and one for steel bars. I guess due to wall thickness? All (ok, most!) bars are a 22mm outside diameter at the ends, and the metal makes the inner diameter vary. Did you get two sets of bolts with your hand guards?
@@PeakMotorcycles yes it did come with the bolts. I think I didn’t cut the throttle grip deep enough. Will give it a go with the drill. Thanks for your reply!
Hi Andre wondered if you have seen 550 performance has now produced an ECU remap for the 300 rally as you already have a hi flow exhaust you would only have to improve air box flow and an after market air filter to increase power by 18% and torque by 12% down side is you have to send your ECU to the US .
I already have it. I mailed my ECU to them in May and picked it up when I did my tail of the dragon trip in June. I also have the airbox mods from them, just haven’t had the time to fit them. I’m hoping to have more time in the winter…
I’ve ordered the air box mods but will wait till after Rally Moto Dark Sky before I post my Ecu off. How long was your ECU away ?
How are you able to actuate the clutch? The lever is pointed down at what looks like a 45 degree angle.
It’s down a bit, but not 45 degrees. It’s the same angle as the brake and it’s pretty much where my fingers would rest when sitting. Maybe rotated slightly for a bit more comfort when standing, but it’s comfortable to use. Until you mentioned it, it hadn’t crossed my mind that it was at an odd angle.
Hi again from Canada. I've recently discovered on the Zeta website a 300 rally specific handguard. Wondering if this was a product you considered or were aware of ? Perhaps it was not available when you did your install. Apologies if you have already addressed this. Thanks.
Hi Matt, I hadn’t as it wasn’t available earlier last year. Looks interesting though, with the mounts further up. I think it’s a universal one that looks it would fit the stock bar and perhaps avoid the welded crossbar.
How about the standard bars have Honda put those impossible to get out fittings inside
Not impossible, just nearly impossible. Though the standard bars are quite soft and will likely bend after a few drops so I don’t know of many people who have gone to the trouble of getting the inserts out. I think a few have drilled and tapped them to fit the bolts that came with their new handguards, but the fixed cross-brace means that a lot of aftermarket handguards won’t fit the stock bars on the inner end. If you don’t need the rise, get some Renthal or ProTaper 22mm high bend bars which have a very similar profile to the stock bar but are a lot stronger.
Hi André.
I read getting the original insert out of the bar ends is a nightmare. What did you do and how easy/hard was that bit?
Hi, I didn’t. When I fitted the handguards, I changed the handlebars to the Renthal fat bars so didn’t have to get the insert out. I think most folks who stick with the stock bars either get bolts to fit (M6?) or drill them and re-tap for the bolts that come with the new guards.
@@PeakMotorcycles Ah yes you did, thank you for confirming.
How come your 300 has a chrome or metal shiny gas cap? 300's I've seen have a black plastic gas cap.
No idea, it’s just how it came, stock from the dealer...
Andre, did you discard the bar end weights because they don’t fit with the handguards or because they aren’t necessary? My bar end weights fit with my Acerbis handguards but wondering if I should discard them anyways, every bit of weight savings helps :)
Hi Rob, actually I didn’t try fitting them. Between the handguards and double take mirrors I’m sure I’ve added more weight than I took off. I haven’t had any problems with vibration or stability, so just left them off. I can try fitting them if you like, I still have them, but I don’t think they are needed. Crash protection perhaps 🤣
@@PeakMotorcycles thanks for the reply. If you don’t get any vibration without them it’s probably best to save the weight and keep them off. Good to know
Do the hand guard hit the windshield when the bars are turn completely on header side ?
Do you thing the Trimble clamp adaptor from zeta would work or it would hit the windshield ?
Mine don't, but I do have 20mm risers on them too. Not sure if that makes the difference. Do you have a link to the 'Trimble' clamp adaptor? I'm not sure what that is and Google was no help! 😶
@@PeakMotorcycles how close dose it come to touching ?
@@PeakMotorcycles Zeta ZE71-1822 Armor Tc-Mount Side
@@petelafontaine4641 aha. The clamp mounts. Not sure, I’ve seen them on the FB page but haven’t tried them myself. I guess it comes down to distance from the triple clamp to the bar end, and how much adjustment there is in the hand guard.
How did you remove the Honda bar end weights cylinder? That cylinder is really tough to remove, not counting the glued grips
Do you mean the handlebar insert that the bar end weights bolt in to? Or the bar end weights themselves? If the weights, mine just undid. I know others had problems but an impact wrench seems to help. As for the inserts, I changed by bars so never had to get them out of the stock ones.
@@PeakMotorcycles yes, the inserts is a bitch to remove. I will probably get new bars, simpler.
@@PeakMotorcycles the inserts are the problem. Most of us don’t have that special “pincer” tool required. Changing the bars is by far easier as you did, still a royal pain!
Hi Andre, do you have a link to where these were bought please? Thanks in advance
Hi, I've added it to the description, but here it is too: www.dirtbikexpress.co.uk/bike_parts/motocross_handguards/zeta_motocross_handguards/zeta_armor-guard_curved_handguard_kit_-_black
They are currently showing as out of stock, but I'm sure they are available elsewhere. Note that I ordered the 28mm Fatbar fitting ones. If you have the stock bar, it'll be 22mm (if it's possible to fit them with the cross brace...
Good luck.
Thank you
Thank you
Very nice job. Are those original bars? I like how you used a small breaker bar instead of a ratchet.
Hi Wayne, They are not the original bars. They are a Renthal 604 Fat Bar. I'm not sure you can fit these to the standard bars unless you can find a way to remove the weight threads from the ends, and you can find a clamping place that doesn't interfere with the cross brace. The cross brace is welded on the stock bar, so I don't think any would fit. The guards have the bar clamp to fit a tapered bar, so if you think you do have space on the stock bar, make sure you get the one for a 22mm bar.
Just got this bike. Why did you change the bars out ? Also sucks you cant get bark busters without mods but i did notice no vibrations. After you changed bars did you get vibrations ?
How come you went with those & not Barkbusters? 🤔
Hi Clive, no particular reason. Price and availability I guess. The Zeta bars and guards were £70 delivered. I also looked at Bark Busters and Acerbis. I think they all do a similar job as long as they mount through the bar ends and onto the bar itself. I'm sure all do a great job. If I manage to break these, I'll try another!
Have you found any replacement levers yet? 2 finger pull
Hi Terry, not yet. I think Zeta do some, but I've not tried any yet. We are still in lockdown in the UK so I haven't had many opportunities to get out and find what's not right with the stock ones (other than lack of adjustability). Once I've ridden it a bit more, I'll research and sort something out.
@@PeakMotorcycles I am in the UK just waiting delivery , I have Zeta on mycrf250x hoping they will straight swap
What Renthal bars did you buy? I'm 6' tall, you look around the same or more.
I have the Renthal 604 fatbar on some 20mm Apico risers. The Apico bolts were not great though, one sheared off at below spec torque. If buying again, I’d use the ProTaper risers.
@Peak Motorcycles Yeah that's a never buy again experience. I HATE companies that cheap out on the hardware. I'd have been PISSED at that scenario.
Will you add a link to the handle bars you have on the bike in this comment ?
Hi Steve,
They are Renthal 604 Fatbars in Black. Mine came from 24MX but there are various distributors. There’s a video just on the bars and risers:
th-cam.com/video/1ZSQkGLgo0w/w-d-xo.html
I have a CRF300 playlist of all the content if you want to take a look at that for what else is covered. If there is information missing off the descriptions, happy to add it on the relevant video rather than videos about something else where you see another part of the bike. Thanks
I wish it was that easy to do on KLX300 I have to deal with the blocked end that you need to drill out
The stock bars have the threaded inserts, so I guess I dodged that by switching to the Renthal fat bars. At least you have the choice. We don’t get the KLX300 over here.
Where can I purchase Zeta products in the UK?
Hi, I guess it depends on what zeta products. The handguards in this video came from dirt bike express and I put a link in the description. Their stock levels have been variable, so it might be what you can get. If it’s something else like footpegs or levers, they are harder to come by and Google is probably a useful start, though everything is difficult to find at the moment. Good luck.
Good! Considering the Barkbusters install is horrible with this bike!
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These are great guards, I've had them on three bikes now. Your levers and guards seem to be angled a little too far down.
I adjusted them up a little after fitting. They are a bit down, but levers were angled to be comfortable when standing. For the guards, I laid the bike down, and that was the point of contact with the ground 😁
You didn't have to cut the ends off the grips? The ends are already open? If so, then wow, that's awesome - thumbs up to Honda for that! :)
I think they are for bar weights to reduce the vibration, but yes, you don’t have to cut the ends off too!
On the L the grips have to be cut off. Also, the throttle casing had to be cut off too.
@@ringonotts oh. That’s not great... and there was me thinking the Rally was just a screen, headlamp and bigger fuel tank 🤣. I hope it wasn’t too tricky.
Peak Motorcycles I fitted Oxford heated grips while I changed my bars today. I had to grind off the bumps on the throttle housing so that I could get the new grip on. Pain in the ass but simple enough to do...
@@ringonotts Yup, I think I'd have to do the same. I've some Acewell heated grips with an integral switch, so no separate controller, but I ordered an eBay special replacement throttle tube from China so I might be able to swap it without having to take the stock one off. There's definitely a few heated grip days coming up... Monday is supposed to be -3C here and only getting above 0 by lunchtime...
makes a video showing the maximum speed would be really cool (top speed). Thanks.
That would be awesome, but I’ll probably finish the running in period of 300 miles before I run it at high revs (so far halfway there, but always riding below 6k rpm). That said, I can already tell you that it’ll do 70mph, the legal maximum for the UK. Surely you aren’t suggesting I break the law and then publish video proof on the internet?! 🤣🤣🤣
@@PeakMotorcycles I thought there were closed tracks for high speed like in Brazil.
If it did, it would be great content.
can you tell me what is the maximum speed of it in the specifications?
I’m sure there are, but everything like that has been closed for most of the last year in the UK due to Covid. I think they can open again in late May or even June. We shall see. Currently there is a stay at home order, with essential journeys only allowed.
@@PeakMotorcycles I understood. as soon as possible bring a video of this for us. tell me what is the maximum speed of it in the specifications because in Brazil it has not arrived yet.
This is not a top speed motorcycle it is a dual purpose 300cc adventure bike. If you want top speed go and buy a sport bike
I would like to buy the old handguards from you.
Thanks Javier, but they went following a similar request last summer. I don’t have them any more I’m afraid.
@@PeakMotorcycles Ok, thanks for the reply!
Yup one little off and the Honda ones snap easily 😐
Is that from experience 😐
Sadly yes, managed 198 miles before my off
@@richbrock9876 hope you’re ok. And the rest of the bike too. 😳
Just a swollen wrist for me and some broken plastics on the bike. Was having so much fun I stayed out till dark, didn’t see a tree root or something that simply threw the front wheel away instantly. Wonder how much Honda will charge for the plastic bits 😳
On the subject of money do you want sell any parts you’ve upgraded on yours? (Hand guards and luggage rack I’m thinking)
@@richbrock9876 ouch. Both for the wrist and the plastics. I’ve found Bikerzbits to be the cheapest for the plastics. As for the bits from mine, pretty much everything not on the bike has been sold already. I’ve kept a few things, stock exhaust, bars, footpegs, toolbox, but all the racks have gone (am waiting for the Outback Motortek one) as has the Yamoto bash guard. The stock handguards went to a local who asked me about them after this video went out. Apologies. Running the channel is sort of expensive, and though it makes a bit of money now, it doesn’t get close to bike or bits costs, so I generally buy something, make a video, use it for a while and when something better/different comes along, switch it out, do another video, and sell the one I’m no going to use. As long as supplies are limited, I only lose £10-20 per item, and over time, the video revenue might recover some of that if I get 5k-10k views. Many don’t though (as Mrs. Peak Motorcycles keeps pointing out 🤣🤣🤣)
This channel is, and continues to be an expensive hobby 😁
Honda must have gorillas assembling these bikes. Every nut and bolt is torqued way to tight. I could barely get some off, especially the fork pinch bolts. They are supposed to be 25 ft lbs. must have been at least 40
Yup. I had to get a few new ones as I wasn’t as careful as I should have been. As you say, way too tight.
New idea. Cruise control
On a CRF? Do you think it has enough power to make the most of it? I tend to cruise at 60mph in 6th, though opening the throttle at that speed doesn’t do a great deal. I have cruise control on my GS and only really use that for keeping a constant speed between average speed cameras. Do you think you’d use one on a CRF?
@@PeakMotorcycles Yes, I bought a Vista Cruise kit on eBay. It cost me 26 us $. He stood on my crf250l rally. Now I have installed it on my new crf 300 l rally. I use cruise control quite often, even in the city. But I also use crf for big travel. And on a long journey, the throttle lock is a great device! I think I'm not the only one who uses crf as a motorcycle for big trips.))))
@@PeakMotorcycles If you decide to install this on your motorcycle, please let me know. I have to tell you about some of the nuances.
Want to sell your old guards.....UK based.
Jon
Sure. I’m in Edale in the Peak District. By all means make me an offer! (Admin@PeakMotorcycles.com)
Thanks.......email sent
I don't understand why people want to buy those almost useless things, they won't protect your levers