BOTH my Rover P6s get alternators...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- In my never ending quest to get and keep my pair of Rover P6s on the road, both the 2000 and 3500 (4600) and currently its electrical gremlins doing their bit to stop that...
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The regulator and rectifier you have are completely wrong for that alternator, they fit Lucas 16-18 ACR, not yours , the sockets are a BA size, i used to recondition alternators and have done hundreds of Lucas alternators, cheers Andy
Nice one Matt, one of the P6's is running again and hopefully closer to getting th 2000 going as well. I noticed the oil pressure gauge was back in the middle at the end of the video which is good. 'Pattern' parts as they used to be called (maybe they still are I don't know) always used to be a lottery back in the day and I'd guess it's got worse in recent decades. I bought some pattern stuff to replace bits on motor bikes and gave up in the end as they just didn't fit and ended up buying genuine bits at frankly stupid prices. When the genuine parts dry up it becomes a greater challenge. Many thanks for sharing.
Older alternators (the 11AC) used a field isolation relay and a bi-metallic warning lamp control unit coded 3AW. Treat the latter mentioned unit as you would a bi-metallic flasher unit. Both are connected to the Al terminal on the alternator. Also used the 4TR regulator. There is a separate switch combined with the ignition switch. Had a Haynes manual for the P6. Was revised in the late 60's when the ACR series became available.
The "box" on the alternator is a capacitor. You can drive without it, but makes the gauges work twitchy (at least in my car it does that) - the capacitor evens out the voltage spikes. It needs to be bolted to a ground.
It looks like a radio interference suppression capacitor to me.
@@Zeem4 You´re right, but it also affects other stuff.
To check the warning light circuit, earth the small brown and yellow wire on the alternator plug with the ignition turned on and if the wiring is okay, it should light up, if not, you have a wiring fault from the alternator to the dash, if it does work, the alternator is at fault although it is charging, the light has to work to excite the field circuit, :), just thought it may have a warning light control unit, looks like an old flasher unit round aluminium unit, normally has a green label on it to say what it is, that new alternator probably wont need it but there might be a small modification to do to the wiring, cant just remember, long time since i worked on that type of charging system.
I know you’re into saving money. So it is always worth a shot if you have the time. However as a mechanic I don’t really like it when people try & save a few ££ on really important items. Alternators & brakes etc are always best bitting the bullet & spending the extra for replacement parts.
Great progress on the black P6, i'd like to see the 2000 out, thats some motor, Gaffer-tastic. Best wishes.
Well done on the alternator fix for the V8. Looks like the oil pressure came down a bit at the end.
Hello,it’s not out of the elements because it’s all open facing the fields.secure some kind of roller blind to cut off the wind blowing dust inside🤔🤔🇬🇧🇬🇧
12:55 Yep no more returning old units to where they came from. Amazes me at how many items be it alternators, starter motors, calipers etc we just throw in the scrap metal. Clearly in our case Napa Auto parts can churn out every conceivable part for such cheap (quality is sometimes questionable!!!!!) prices it just isn't worth them having the old stuck back. Very environmentally friendly!!!
NAPA is being dumped on all British motor factors…..
Time to call in the mobile mechanic for half a morning to make sure these 2 cars get sorted…..
Part of what a voltage regulator does (separate from dynamo or within alternator) is to provide a stable 10v supply for the gauge circuits…. your weird unreliable readings could stem from faulty wiring or incorrect components….
Enjoy your vids over here across the pond. I must tell a joke,Why do the British like their beer warm? Because Lucas also made refrigerators.as the former owner of a few Triumph cycles .I speak from experience,Regards
Nice work man, got there in the end 🙂 the no battery light on the 2000 will be related to the broken wires you mentioned 🙂👍
Always good to see P6 content . On another subject, are you having a social , ideally at The Motorist in Yorkshire this year ?
Been meaning to plan one!
All the old british electrical's are b.a. sizes although being small sizes, metrics usually work OK. I take it you haven't yet looked for the ignition relay for the warning light. I have in the past got around the lug issue with alternators by removing the 3 long bolts holding the alternator together, then you can twist the casing around till the lugs are in the right place and refit the bolts
I thought I had it but it was the starter relay
Is the oil warning light working? I believe they are on the same circuit as the ignition warning light. I may be wrong as it's a long time since I worked on rovers and of course the wiring changes depending on age and type. The wiring is usually a white wire and may have a yellow, or different colour stripe
Lovely to hear the blub blubs through your mic when you checked the battery!
This looks easy to fit compared to the grand picasso i did last week that took me 3 days to do.... picasso alternators are up to a grand each if you're unlucky 🙄👍🇮🇪
And definitely easier than a Smart car!
I didn't even realise you had 2 of em! and I've been watching a few years now 😂
That rev counter is working on my nerves 😅
Just love the 2000, white with red interior is perfection! Great job on the alternators.
Wrong handed Lucas alternator? Remove the though bolts and rotate the housing. Hey presto, opposite handed alternator. Many motor factors only stocked one hand (cheaper that way) and flipped them to suit.
Good trick!
thanks for writing that, saved me a few mins..
I used the same or similar kit on my alternator. So far very happy with it.
Awesome Derek,
Well done Bentley
Well, ye learn summat new every day, Didn't know there was no swap on alternators . That will no doubt be our asian friends again. Your not the only one whose had faulty issues with new parts.. ME 2. Anyways good bit of chasing finally gets you the right parts. Next thing will be the yankee bus on the road. I am still curious to see what it costs to put that on the load. Thanks for vid. Coffee time Later.
I love Glass Bowl fuel pumps. I have one in my shed from a Hillman Hunter (I think).
I really enjoy a tinkering video! This is my the UK has so many good engineers.
You need to buy the farm, Matt. By which I mean you need to move to a de-landed farmhouse that still has a significant sized barn (or series of useful outbuildings) - ever consider moving to the north of England where your house value would probably get you something of the sort?
Mrs F would like to go north, but we have a lot of ties here and our son is at secondary about to start GCSEs so not a good time to move away
I did that but went from the South East to North Devon. Trouble is the weather is S***e down here so there is plenty of time for tinkering but not for driving !
What's going on with the tacho on the V8? It's bouncing around like a kid on E Numbers!
You can rotate those alternator bodies ic you're careful
Double P6 - the best type of video bar none
This was a very HubNut episode 😂
Oh how Lucas CAV is missed, if a recon unit was not available one got a new one for the exchange price.
Good progress!
A great little tinkering video on both P6's Matt.
Thanks 👍
I do like an old Rover.
Having two of the buggers is just masochistic!
Alternators for the Rovers
Ooh , progress ( and looks like the oil pressure was normal on the drive back )
Seems like you were alternating between the two.
A refund!? From eBay?
Excuse my hollow laughter.
You lucky thing! 👍
Yeah the reg and rect are for an acr I used to rebuild these every day 😂
Oh, the joy of ebay. Still, good to see the V8 up and running again.
When do we finally get the reveal of that F40 from your intro? 😜
one day...
Need a fuel pump kit for the 2litre that is why it is not priming and not holding fuel in the bowl
SU kit from Burlen Services presumably ?
The V8 has an appealing Mad Max air about it.
Always entertaining
The world of eBay Matt... F#ck em! I basically had to get rid of my Fiat Stilo Schumacher as eBay sellers kept sending the wrong headlights after promising they were correct... After the 5th one I just gave up. No MOT due to light alignment.. Sent it to scrappy and they auctioned it for me... eBay account shut down and deleted for ever... Grrrr hate hate hate....
Fiat Stilo Schumacher! Haven't thought about them in many years! Nice!
Lovely E.T. Headrests in the 2000.
Thanks, yes they are rather tasty!
They provide great support to you upper back as they don't really adjust very high.
Ah, the joys of pirchasing parts from eBay...
Ever thought of electric fuel pumps?….keep asking hubnut same thing…..hearing starters being over worked
The V8 has one, essential to stop vapour lock, the 2000 has never had a problem as long as its kept in use
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Yipee I'm 4th I thnk?
Furious vs hubnut for tinkering time videos 🤓🧰🔧⚒️🛠️
I'd say it's a draw at the moment.?.😂