My mother in law and her sister were orphaned in the Blitz. 22 March 1941.Aged 6. She lived in London until 1961 and does not recall any black people before 1955.
My father was born in 1914 and grew up in Brixton. He told me that, until after the war, it was so rare to see a black person that people would rush to touch them for good luck.
@@ronmatthews1738my gran said that two of her school mates ran up behind a lone black person and lifted up the person’s coat because they had never seen a black man before and thought he might have a tail. This was not a bad joke, she was entirely serious- such was children’s curiosity of a totally unrivalled event in their town as the arrival of somebody so utterly foreign and different.
My mum grew up in Birmingham, born 1930. She recalled seeing a black man in 1937 in the street - the neighbours were all out as it was the first time any of them had ever seen a black person.
I wonder how long before "misremembering" will be a crime.? Anyone who says there were few or no black people around before a certain period will be arrested for it.
My father was a child in London during the blitz. Such misrepresentation by this film is an insult to the people of London who lived, died, suffered and endured at that time. l hope the film 'bombs' and if enough people ignore it, it will. How can we allow our history to be constantly rewritten with lies like this. What is the matter with us!
The Imperial War Museum display on the Blitz last year, was fronted by a life size photograph of a black woman seeing her children off on a rail platform as evacuees. An FoI request found the photo was taken in Hastings in 1958. Deliberate misrepresentation.
That is unacceptable for such an esteemed museum. Wow. I live in an area of Canada that accepted a great many child evacuees during the war. They, of course, were 100 percent white.
I'd rather see a movie about 🎶 Leroy Brown, the baddest man in the whole damned town, and meaner than a junkyard dog. At least that's what Jim Crotch's song says.
I saw some footage of Eamon Holmes questioning Kenneth Branner, in person, about his film 'Belfast' and the completely false imagery of black and Asian people. He replied 'I simply wouldn't get the funding needed to make it without it." Says it all.
It's totally the other way around. They appropriate EVERYTHING. Why would we want to appropriate anything from them? The pinnacle of black achievement is the mudhut.
The BBC series “Sherwood” is guilty of this. It depicts black people on the picket lines of striking miners in 1984. I grew up and worked in those mining communities….while black and Asian working class people were strongly represented in transport, health, hospitality, retail and manufacturing…they were almost entirely absent from what were known as “heavy industries. Such as mining, quarrying, steel and ship yards
I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.My aunt nursed in London during the Blitz and she never saw a black person.Is there now no part of British history that these people will not muscle into ?
@@jackdeniston6150 No, in English, to muscle into something means to force or to push your way in. You're welcome. The English language is very rich in expressions.
@@sonnyirish3678 Ridiculous ckaim I have friend who's family came to England from 1919, a military family heavily decorated, the is it Ignorance or wishful thinking, but in 1940s London around ten thousand blacks are listed as living in the city, good grief the Ignorance is embarrassing, simply google black population of london 1940 , while your at it google the draft proclamation letter, from the 1700s from the Queen about the Black people living in England, Ignorance is rufe and embarrassing !
About bloody time there was a movie made about the millions of black people that suffered during the WWII London blitz. Hopefully the Norman Conquest, the English Civil War and the Reformation will be addressed too, all having such traumatic effects on the black community of England.
I lived in London from January 1938 to April 1941 and remember the blitz very well, but I never saw a single black child, or adult for that matter. I cant say there weren't any. but I can say from personal experience that they were very rare. After spending a few years in Cardiff, where outside Tiger Bay black children were also rare, I returned to London in January 1946 and remained there throughout the forties without seeing a single black child. The first black person I ever saw was a black American soldier in Cardiff.
I was a kid in the 70s and I never saw a black person until I was 18 in the mid 80s. It was quite an event and everyone was staring at her because nobody had ever seen a black person before in my town.
My mother didn't see a black person till 1957, and that was when she started nursing in South London. My father didn't see any during his National Service in the early 50s. My mother-in-law saw a black man during her childhood in Birmingham in the mid-30's - she remembers the excitement that such an extremely rare event produced.
I'm a Second World War buff. I've seen literally thousands of hours of newsreel/documentary footage of the war shot by the Germans, Soviets, French, Japanese, Chinese, Dutch, Italians, Americans, Indians, Canadians--basically the entire gamut of countries involved in the conflict. I can honestly say I've never seen any authentic British films from that period in which a black person was even in the background.
A.I will be used extensively to "correct" all of that footage. You never existed. Rumours to the contrary are nothing more than a "conspiracy theory". Welcome to oblivion.
@@Ligerpride IIndians and Ghurkas fought in North Africa, Africans and Caribbeans in East Africa and the Middle East, Moroccans with the Free French forces in Italy, native forces with the British, American and Australians in the Pacific, Filipino forces with the Americans in the Philippines, not to mention the Chinese with their own armies. There were certainly some Africans with the Italian army, but to say the Allies weren't diverse and the Axis were is to completely disregard the intensely nationalistic ideologies of the Axis forces and flies in the face of the evidence.
@@Ligerpride Yes, to a point. The German invading force into the Soviet Union had divisions of Hungarians and Romanians. When the Americans were fighting the Germans in France, they discovered many Russians who chose to fight for the Germans rather than starve to death. They often surrendered quickly. As one captured German officer amusingly pointed out, "It is difficult to motivate Russians to fight for Germany in France against Americans."
Exactly. If all this black washing had any hint of truth, they would need to cram it down our throats so so much. We know the score, but this is a strategy to lie to children so that future generations believe it.
It is common among under-achievers. Due to their lack of recordable accomplishments, they need to assume the mantle of others who have actually done the work - a kind of "stolen valour" in the field of world development. I recall a detour from the original idea of "The Darling Buds of May", where a black fella was a regular in the rural setting of the series, having qualified as an accountant in late 40's/early 50's England! Not saying there were no black accountants in England in the early 1950's, but it would be needle and haystack stuff trying to find them.
I was a kid in the '60's and one day while walking with my mother through our local town, we happened to see a black man walking towards us. My mother stopped dead and stared at him, not out of hate, or anything like that, but curiosity I suppose, as she had never seen a black person in real life before. And, as I mention, that was in the 60's!
As a child. I saw my first black man on the dockside of the Ship Canal in Manchester... 1963. He was likely from the ship and not a local man... While open mouthed in surprise, my dad dragged me away out of embarrassment for the poor bloke...
@@bassetdad437 We fought the wrong people. We destroyed the very ideology that would have protected Europe and prevented this from happening. It was the tragedy of the 20th century. 😞
I saw the opening to a cartoon version of a Christmas Carol that came out a couple years ago. It shows people walking up and down the streets of London in their 1840s clothes. Half of them were black. They want kids to think it was really like that. The number on the British isles at that time would probably fit in one room.
When I hear the name Steve Mcqueen, I see an image of the actor who starred in things like Bullitt, The Great Escape, The Magnificent Seven etc. Sorry. What this guy is attempting to do reminds me of Winston Smith in 1984, more specifically his job at the Ministry
I always thought it was a common courtesy to change your name in showbiz, if another performer/director had the same name to avoid confusion (Even if they were no longer around). Harry H. Corbett added the H, becuase Harry Corbett (sooty) already had that name.
Perhaps they could film this sequel on location next August Blood on the streets , corpses strewn around, people fleeing in panic,( no need for extras,), mayhem chaos & destruction abounds - ideal
During the Netflix movie Churchill/'Darkest Hour' set in pre-blitz of the 1940 commencement of the Battle of Britain, Churchill was wandering the streets of London seeking inspiration from common folks. He took a tube, and wandered down the isle greeting and being greeted by passengers. He happened to sit down in an empty seat next to an African who then gave him the missing inspiration that he was seeking. Whereupon Churchill subsequently delivered his famous " we shall fight them in the beaches, etc." speech in Parliament. All white persons throughout and hardly a black person visible anywhere in the movie until that critical, high impact inspiring encounter in the train.
@@sarz747 yes the policy is to cram them in even where they never were, and to always and only show them to be amazing, wise, knowledgeable, insightful, advisors... laughable when you know what they're really like.
I dont think it was called Churchill but I know the one you mean.. That scene Ruined that film,made it a joke. The Gathering Storm with Albert Finney is a much better film
Just like in the ridiculous film Darkest hour where Churchill asks a blaq man on a train his advice on the war ,of course he gives a quote from Shakespeare for his reply 🙄
Darkest Hour refers to the man's skin. And didn't you know that in the headwaters of the Congo, von Clausewitz is standard fare on every family's bookshelf?
Do you really think Steve McQueen chose that name? McQueen is of Caribbean heritage. Most Caribbean people have Irish, Scottish and Welsh names. There was event called slavery where they were stripped of their original African names. The level of ignorance is astonishing.
@@mark314158 For all intents and purposes, alternate and alternative are synonymous. Both words date to the middle of the 16th century, and both describe a choice apart from what is first offered: an alternate viewpoint; an alternative suggestion. If you wish to be a pedant then the following is a better way to define both words. An alternate is something or someone that serves in place of another. An alternative is a second option that does not replace the first. For example, when a road undergoing maintenance is closed to traffic, you have to take an alternate route. But when an under-construction road is still accessible to traffic, you might choose to take an alternative route to avoid congestion. The first option is still there, and the alternative gives you a choice.
Got photographs from beach holidays on Tyneside 1960s. My family, and hundreds of strangers in the back ground. ALL indigenous. Not a non white face to be seen anywhere.
My mum grew up in islington.. She was 17 when the war broke out... The first black person she ever saw was an American GI coming out of Highbury Tube station in 1943... It made her jump out of her skin to paraphrase her recall.....
The only Steve McQueen I remember is the white blonde haired fellow who acted in many great films and actually served in the Korean war for his country America.. 🗽🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
The Great Escape with the REAL Steve McQueen was a great film 👍 Ironically, Black Steve McQueen's films are about escapism , from the real world and truth 😂
Yes, my enjoyment of a recent movie about Churchill was marred by his fictional encounter on the London underground with an unusually literate and erudite young man of African appearance who was supposedly a typical Londoner.
Is it any worse that seeing the film Belfast and seeing black policemen on the streets of Belfast in the 60's. Beyond crass and moronic. I walked out of the film.
What point are you trying to make? Because you didn’t see something with your own eyes, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Prior to the Windrush, most black people in Britain lived in Port cities such as Liverpool, Bristol, Cardiff and London. Even though Simon calls himself a historian. He does very little research. I can google and see evidence of black people in London in the 1930’s and 1940’s. There were plenty black and mixed race children. So to suggest that there were no black children is ridiculous.
@@Devie141 Typical ‘lefties’ reply. Where did I say there were no Black people? It infers there were very few. I google photos Liverpool 1940’s and out of hundreds of photos there was one taken in Pitt st that had Blacks on it.
Having left London in April 1941, I returned for a weekend in 1944 and spent two uncomfortable nights sleeping on the platform in the tube because of the air raids. I returned again for good in January 46 and throughout the forties I never saw a single black child.
That's because of the limitations of photo emulsions at the time: A much shorter exposure was required. Otherwise all blac_ objects would get washed out.
Yep, I felt exactly the same way. It was totally ridiculous. I actually thought it was some kind of surreal dream sequence. I'm surprised he didn't say "Lumme Guvnor" 😊
Almost impossible to watch anything these days without out of place blacks in it, and often they are poor actors and always victims or in positive roles, it's propaganda.
I get sick of seeing the Guardian's begging letter and talk of "because of bad actors" they need to beg to support their "brilliant journalism" - what a laugh. I only ever read their articles to check what garbage they're talking this time after someone directs me to it. Fish n chip wrapping.
If the Londoners saw a black person in 1940, they almost certainly would have been more shocked and horrified of them than the bombs dropping outside!!!
American GI's came to the UK , and there is a story of the White GI's wanting segregation in the pubs , the Brits did not like that and it came to blows , after all if someone will die for/with you , you can drink with them.
My mum said the same about Manchester. She grew up in the late thirties near Salford docks and she says that the first blck or asians she saw were American soldiers.
Lot of Military families from the commonwealth settled in Britain from 1919 are you all this slow, some people in Britain has not seen a Black person before in 2024 much less the 40s , the Ignorance is hilarious!
I first met a brown person in around 1955 when I was 8 or so. He was a very nice man who always wore an overcoat no matter the weather and would give me a penny every time we met. At that time he was a curiosity
I'd like to see a movie about "1632" from Eric Flint. There are even two spots open for black actors. Dr. James Nichols and his daughter Sharon The only black people in Grantville West Virginia(visiting for a wedding), when it was transported back in time to 1632 Thuringia in the ongoing 30 years war. 🤗
There were actually quite a lot of black and brown soldiers in WW1, recruited from the British and French empires. They usually fought in units of their own rather than mingling with white soldiers.
@@bernardedwards8461 Indian troops started arriving on the Western Front from September 1914. Sikh soldiers fought bravely, receiving world wide news coverage of their involvement in the war. The Sikh troops played a crucial role in the first battle of Ypres, yet their contribution was not widely rewarded after the war. Some were shown sitting in the back of troop trucks mixed with the brits, moving towards the front in the movie 1917.
Let us look at this logically. It is estimated that prior to 1942, when American troops arrived in Britain, the black population for the entire country numbered 8,000 to 10,000 and were mostly centred in port cities and dockyard areas . The population of London in 1939 was 8.5 million and in ‘central London’ was just over 4 million. The chances of a blond English girl having a relationship (let alone marrying) a black man in the late 1930’s was highly unlikely. Not only would such a union be frowned upon, indeed the couple being ostracised, but such a girl, unless extremely well travelled or hung around the docks, would probably never even meet a black person.
An Asian personality reminiscing on a documentary some years ago, claimed as a child he would run indoors when heard the sirens during the WW2, the problem with that is he wasn't born until 1962. The virtual signalling started many years ago and has gathered pace especially in the last two years.
One of the few TV shows I can be bothered to watch these days is the Footage Detectives on Talking Pictures TV. For those unfamiliar with this brilliant show presenters Noel Cronin and Mike Read uncover all sorts of footage from Britain's past and its people at work, rest and play. It really is fascinating. We see a homogenous cohesive country at ease with itself across the social spectrum. Uncomfortable viewing for the "Britain was always multicultural" brigade, I fear 😄
There really is no big surprise here. This is the way that ideological takeovers always work; the past must be seen through the lens of the present and completely rewritten.
I was born in Edinburgh in 1944. The first person of colour I ever saw was at university there and his name was Vijay Kumar. The first person from the Caribbean was in Manchester 1963 when visiting my boyfriend. This was so uncommon that I have remembered it all these years later.
I'm always surprised that there is an audience for these Films , and even more surprised that they can find Financial backers to make them in the First place ?
So long as we are remaining silent outside the exclusion zone of certain "medical" facilities....we should be OK! (Maybe need to pace out 150 yards, then add ten steps for luck!)
McQueen's problem is that he was born 29 years too late. Those of us who were part of the immediate recovery from the war (albeit in a very junior status) were able to recognise in our number the early very British black faces that were not from mixed marriages but the black GI left overs that grew up as part of White families. The most memorable feature of the few I came into contact with is that in conjunction with the highlighting of fundemental needs and stress relief that accompanied peace these children were absorbed without wrecking families or being different to the rest of us in any way other than the colour of their skin. Those were times when the back door might be open but visitors knocked to announce their arrival instead of blundering in unvited.
you would need to have a bonfire night every night for a year or two to get rid of all of those british family photo albums with not a foreign face in sight.
The only job my grandpa could find when he came back from the war was a bus driver. So surely they were actually taking the jobs from people who needed them?
I heard a radio program this morning on the BBC about a black man who had been promoted & walked to the North Pole or somewhere.I expect next he will be eclipsing Shackelton.🙂
@@bernardedwards8461 Yet that is exactly what you did do when you said "To give brown people their due, Sherpa Tensing was equal first to the top of Everest with Hilary in 1953."
My father was an auxiliary fireman between 1940 -1942. He were a Londoner and the thought of a black-skinned child watching Luftwaffe bombs falling from the sky would have had him choking on his biscuits in disbelief.
In 1951, there were only 30k black people in the entire UK. My mother was born in the early 1950s and didn't see a black person until the 1970s when she moved to Manchester after getting married. My mother never said or did a racist thing in her entire live, my father, on the other hand, travelled the world and had been in the army, was very racist. It's an interesting comparison.
As someone who lost a grandmother and two aunts in the Blitz, I feel insulted by how they are allowed to make something which is nothing but a downfaced lie about that period of history.
There was a huge input during and after the War from black, brown and all other folk in the commonwealth and elsewhere. Much was in the services both here and overseas where people served with hard work and valour. To most older or young educated British people this is very much appreciated. The UK was populated mainly by white people in a domestic situation until the 1960's. I like the people of my age know this as fact, we travelled our country, we were there. To knowingly lie or distort history should be a criminal offence in whatever form, media, from government, in education etc. There must be a clear distinction between fact and fiction in law before we can regain the balanced society we had in the recent past. Our young people deserve nothing less.
We shouldbe able to report and comment on inaccuracies and falsifications without being censored, but the MSM want us all to live in their fantasy world.
My mother in law and her sister were orphaned in the Blitz.
22 March 1941.Aged 6.
She lived in London until 1961 and does not recall any black people before 1955.
My father was born in 1914 and grew up in Brixton. He told me that, until after the war, it was so rare to see a black person that people would rush to touch them for good luck.
@@ronmatthews1738my gran said that two of her school mates ran up behind a lone black person and lifted up the person’s coat because they had never seen a black man before and thought he might have a tail. This was not a bad joke, she was entirely serious- such was children’s curiosity of a totally unrivalled event in their town as the arrival of somebody so utterly foreign and different.
Battle of Jumbawumba.
My mum grew up in Birmingham, born 1930. She recalled seeing a black man in 1937 in the street - the neighbours were all out as it was the first time any of them had ever seen a black person.
I wonder how long before "misremembering" will be a crime.? Anyone who says there were few or no black people around before a certain period will be arrested for it.
My father was a child in London during the blitz. Such misrepresentation by this film is an insult to the people of London who lived, died, suffered and endured at that time. l hope the film 'bombs' and if enough people ignore it, it will. How can we allow our history to be constantly rewritten with lies like this. What is the matter with us!
well the answer to your question is because you are cowards and defeatists
We all lie now and again, but to blatantly do it and try to $teel from under 0ur nose, time and time again: Def1nitely a sandwich short of a picnic
My dad was as well, in Ilford.
The Imperial War Museum display on the Blitz last year, was fronted by a life size photograph of a black woman seeing her children off on a rail platform as evacuees.
An FoI request found the photo was taken in Hastings in 1958.
Deliberate misrepresentation.
Yeah it was faked. Expect to see lots more of that in the coming years, when they usurp our history.
That is unacceptable for such an esteemed museum. Wow. I live in an area of Canada that accepted a great many child evacuees during the war. They, of course, were 100 percent white.
I no longer watch any IWM content, as like you I find most of it untrustworty..
@@roum22 Imperial War museum commiting fraud!!. What other exibits do they offer deceit?
That is extremely disappointing to learn. I had such great respect for that institution during my visit to London in 1987.
His next film is expected to be about Leroy Armstrong, the first man on the moon, and his blonde white wife, Wendy Armstrong.
Or Louis Armstrong, the famous white Jazz trumpet player! 😂
@@robertdell4612 Ah yes, briefcase mouth.
There is nothing they won't fake.
I'd rather see a movie about 🎶 Leroy Brown, the baddest man in the whole damned town, and meaner than a junkyard dog.
At least that's what Jim Crotch's song says.
Not my version of history. I seem to remember that the first person on the moon was a blac_ woman. They had a helluva time making a spacesuit to fit.
I saw some footage of Eamon Holmes questioning Kenneth Branner, in person, about his film 'Belfast' and the completely false imagery of black and Asian people.
He replied 'I simply wouldn't get the funding needed to make it without it."
Says it all.
This is the problem yes.
that is appalling
Those who control the money are ending our world. Why?
At least he was honest and truthfully none of us can be shocked, dismayed but not shocked.
@@oliverheaviside2539demons
The dangerous lies show no sign of stopping. Right out of the Orwellian playbook
And yet we're constantly being admonished for "cultural appropriation"...
It's totally the other way around. They appropriate EVERYTHING.
Why would we want to appropriate anything from them? The pinnacle of black achievement is the mudhut.
"One day my spirit will rise from grave and the world will see I was right "
AH
They're being convinced they were European and not African. It's bizarre
"gentlemen I fear that we have fought this war on the wrong side & in the future will pay a terrible price for this mistake " General George Patton
Yet they dye their hair blonde and straighten it, no one says that’s cultural appropriation do they?
No doubt MSM will promote this as a piece of groundbreaking cinema. The best the public can do is not to pay to see it.
The government will buy all unsold tickets.
I shan't
I shall be avoiding it like weaponised syphilis.
Yes boycott this crap
The BBC series “Sherwood” is guilty of this. It depicts black people on the picket lines of striking miners in 1984.
I grew up and worked in those mining communities….while black and Asian working class people were strongly represented in transport, health, hospitality, retail and manufacturing…they were almost entirely absent from what were known as “heavy industries. Such as mining, quarrying, steel and ship yards
Everywhere now.. in British Media..
The gnosticism of the middle class doesn't care about truth and objectivity just their vision of a world they want.
I can't bear to watch it cos of that
@@DivorcedFL Perhaps they hadn't been through the showers yet !
Exactly why I gave Sherwood a miss . Was 100% certain that white colour steal would occur .
I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.My aunt nursed in London during the Blitz and she never saw a black person.Is there now no part of British history that these people will not muscle into ?
you may mean lie about.
Muscles are for strengrh
@@jackdeniston6150 No, in English, to muscle into something means to force or to push your way in. You're welcome. The English language is very rich in expressions.
@@sonnyirish3678 Ridiculous ckaim I have friend who's family came to England from 1919, a military family heavily decorated, the is it Ignorance or wishful thinking, but in 1940s London around ten thousand blacks are listed as living in the city, good grief the Ignorance is embarrassing, simply google black population of london 1940 , while your at it google the draft proclamation letter, from the 1700s from the Queen about the Black people living in England, Ignorance is rufe and embarrassing !
Muscle in ? You mean steal ?
@TommeahTommeahTommeah Worth giving a miss more like.
About bloody time there was a movie made about the millions of black people that suffered during the WWII London blitz. Hopefully the Norman Conquest, the English Civil War and the Reformation will be addressed too, all having such traumatic effects on the black community of England.
True. How many people of today know that William the Conqueror was born in Nairobi?
I lived in London from January 1938 to April 1941 and remember the blitz very well, but I never saw a single black child, or adult for that matter. I cant say there weren't any. but I can say from personal experience that they were very rare. After spending a few years in Cardiff, where outside Tiger Bay black children were also rare, I returned to London in January 1946 and remained there throughout the forties without seeing a single black child. The first black person I ever saw was a black American soldier in Cardiff.
Then Churchill should have asked a cab driver. They are better informed than the BBC and the Ministry of Defense.
Outside of TV, I never saw a black person until I was 14 or so.
I was a kid in the 70s and I never saw a black person until I was 18 in the mid 80s. It was quite an event and everyone was staring at her because nobody had ever seen a black person before in my town.
Stop making trouble 😂😂😂
My mother didn't see a black person till 1957, and that was when she started nursing in South London. My father didn't see any during his National Service in the early 50s. My mother-in-law saw a black man during her childhood in Birmingham in the mid-30's - she remembers the excitement that such an extremely rare event produced.
The rewriting of history. Surprising how many people are unaware.
My Lunch Break, for people who are unaware.
Yes that's the scary thing our children being taught incorrectly
I'm a Second World War buff. I've seen literally thousands of hours of newsreel/documentary footage of the war shot by the Germans, Soviets, French, Japanese, Chinese, Dutch, Italians, Americans, Indians, Canadians--basically the entire gamut of countries involved in the conflict. I can honestly say I've never seen any authentic British films from that period in which a black person was even in the background.
A.I will be used extensively to "correct" all of that footage.
You never existed. Rumours to the contrary are nothing more than a "conspiracy theory". Welcome to oblivion.
The axis powers were more diverse in terms of ethnicity than the Allied powers. Even the German army alone was more diverse than the Allied one.
Ah! Keyword being "authentic".
@@Ligerpride IIndians and Ghurkas fought in North Africa, Africans and Caribbeans in East Africa and the Middle East, Moroccans with the Free French forces in Italy, native forces with the British, American and Australians in the Pacific, Filipino forces with the Americans in the Philippines, not to mention the Chinese with their own armies. There were certainly some Africans with the Italian army, but to say the Allies weren't diverse and the Axis were is to completely disregard the intensely nationalistic ideologies of the Axis forces and flies in the face of the evidence.
@@Ligerpride Yes, to a point. The German invading force into the Soviet Union had divisions of Hungarians and Romanians. When the Americans were fighting the Germans in France, they discovered many Russians who chose to fight for the Germans rather than starve to death. They often surrendered quickly. As one captured German officer amusingly pointed out, "It is difficult to motivate Russians to fight for Germany in France against Americans."
They are so hilariously desperate to believe they are something they arent and can never be.😅
Exactly. If all this black washing had any hint of truth, they would need to cram it down our throats so so much.
We know the score, but this is a strategy to lie to children so that future generations believe it.
Says a nobody ' lol
It is common among under-achievers. Due to their lack of recordable accomplishments, they need to assume the mantle of others who have actually done the work - a kind of "stolen valour" in the field of world development.
I recall a detour from the original idea of "The Darling Buds of May", where a black fella was a regular in the rural setting of the series, having qualified as an accountant in late 40's/early 50's England!
Not saying there were no black accountants in England in the early 1950's, but it would be needle and haystack stuff trying to find them.
@@HaleyChain-vw8rr I think you're missing the point. Not very bright, are you?
@@HaleyChain-vw8rr You just did, lol..
I was a kid in the '60's and one day while walking with my mother through our local town, we happened to see a black man walking towards us. My mother stopped dead and stared at him, not out of hate, or anything like that, but curiosity I suppose, as she had never seen a black person in real life before. And, as I mention, that was in the 60's!
As a child.
I saw my first black man on the dockside of the Ship Canal in Manchester... 1963. He was likely from the ship and not a local man...
While open mouthed in surprise, my dad dragged me away out of embarrassment for the poor bloke...
Changed days.
My grandmother was born in 1900 and used to tell us how she would cross the road to touch a black man for luck.
@@ArafTryfan I was told that about coal covered Chimney Sweeps...
Like being in a nightmare you can't wake up from.
Oh FFS, utter lies
Seems the plot may have been lifted from the novel The Painted Bird
Amazing, another film I’ll be avoiding, it’s fantasy film
FFS! Just why is this guff being allowed to be made. What a total joke they are making of our history. Its disgraceful.
It's deliberate to undermine us and destroy our morale.
@@bassetdad437 We fought the wrong people. We destroyed the very ideology that would have protected Europe and prevented this from happening. It was the tragedy of the 20th century. 😞
They're doing it with history in living memory now.
I believe it is being done with the intent of demoralising whites as part of the obvious push to divide and undermine white social cohesion.
@@292NigelAbsolutely spot on. The good Guys lost the war.
You don't seriously expect any of us to read the Guardian do you Mr Webb?
I doubt anybody under 20-25 years old will even notice and that is the point to gaslight people
It works. Tell the lie long enough. Those who know different pass on, those who don't come about.
Hence Stalin purging the military of anyone over 30
I saw the opening to a cartoon version of a Christmas Carol that came out a couple years ago. It shows people walking up and down the streets of London in their 1840s clothes. Half of them were black. They want kids to think it was really like that. The number on the British isles at that time would probably fit in one room.
I agree . All planned . The same way young white people don't even noticed they are being systematically being removed from all ad campaigns .
we are so much more radical than you guys when we do wake up, though.
When I hear the name Steve Mcqueen, I see an image of the actor who starred in things like Bullitt, The Great Escape, The Magnificent Seven etc. Sorry.
What this guy is attempting to do reminds me of Winston Smith in 1984, more specifically his job at the Ministry
No need to apologise 😊
More appropriation. Starts with the names
Same for me. Up until I watched this video, he--the actor who died at age 50--is the only Steve McQueen I've ever heard of.
Yes, I have never heard of any other Steve McQueen.
I always thought it was a common courtesy to change your name in showbiz, if another performer/director had the same name to avoid confusion (Even if they were no longer around). Harry H. Corbett added the H, becuase Harry Corbett (sooty) already had that name.
I've seen lots of sooty-looking people in Blitz photos, but that was due to the grime and smoke.
@@maccadamn Bit borderline , potential prison sentence 😂
That was the name of my cat🤫
@@julianmorris9951 same 🤗🤗
Yes...next we'll have a history film about 'black' coal miners....
@@valeriegrimshaw1365 Not good enough for their propaganda as all miners were black down the pits.
The council workers are working day and night to clean the streets of Notting Hill, honestly it looked like the place has been tarred and feathered.
True but look at white middle class Glastonbury, a disgusting mess. Is it the young people?
I will now retrieve my dictionary from the shelf and alter the definition of the word "enrichment". It will be changed to: "turned into a sh*t-hole".
Perhaps they could film this sequel on location next August
Blood on the streets , corpses strewn around, people fleeing in panic,( no need for extras,), mayhem chaos & destruction abounds - ideal
@@396-m7e i’m not sure I would want to watch it but it would be true
ban the so called carnival
The only war movie that'll make you wish we'd lost.
Did you win?
England is a shambles. Japan has preserved its culture.
Look around, we did.
Should not have bothered.
Coventry Blitz no Black people's around
Or in the Plymouth blitz.
None in my Dad's Coventry Street,.😂
None when i went to school in Tottenham in the 60s.@@tennysonfordblackbird2087
Or Sunderland
Or Manchester
Much prefer the real Steve McQueen.
Oh, that'll be the black guy that Churhill managed to find on the Underground with his white girlfriend in that film. Uncanny luck.
The black guy who knew the ancient world.They have the subtlety of a sledge hammer.
Churchill would never of been on the tube
Direct descendant of Stonehenge of course
@@TheAsa1972 Nor would he seek advice from ordinary Londoners'.
The film wouldn't be allowed without that scene.
During the Netflix movie Churchill/'Darkest Hour' set in pre-blitz of the 1940 commencement of the Battle of Britain, Churchill was wandering the streets of London seeking inspiration from common folks. He took a tube, and wandered down the isle greeting and being greeted by passengers. He happened to sit down in an empty seat next to an African who then gave him the missing inspiration that he was seeking. Whereupon Churchill subsequently delivered his famous " we shall fight them in the beaches, etc." speech in Parliament. All white persons throughout and hardly a black person visible anywhere in the movie until that critical, high impact inspiring encounter in the train.
Wow, they really do hate us
@@sarz747 yes the policy is to cram them in even where they never were, and to always and only show them to be amazing, wise, knowledgeable, insightful, advisors... laughable when you know what they're really like.
@@roringusanda2837 And here we are with present day TV ads.
I dont think it was called Churchill but I know the one you mean..
That scene Ruined that film,made it a joke.
The Gathering Storm with Albert Finney
is a much better film
I thought exactly same at the time,though the people watching with me couldn't see it, doesn't look like a change is at all close.
The Dam Busters....starring Lenny Henry and David Lammy, with special guest star Diane Abbott as the love interest 🫣
@@RussEdgar445y7tlfj Bravo 👏 😂 or 'Cracker' 😉
Oh no. You ruined it at the end there!
@@IanConcannon Oh go on, I bet you would 😈
Brilliant comment! 😂😂
@@LordSnobbington-6776 15 pints needed first.
Just like in the ridiculous film Darkest hour where Churchill asks a blaq man on a train his advice on the war ,of course he gives a quote from Shakespeare for his reply 🙄
😂
Ha, shake spear !
@@smogthehorse9409 😅
Actually, it's Britain's darkest hour now both literally and figuratively.
Darkest Hour refers to the man's skin.
And didn't you know that in the headwaters of the Congo, von Clausewitz is standard fare on every family's bookshelf?
Cultural appropriation of the name 'Steve McQueen' 🤣
I bet they'd find it weird if I changed my name to Oluremi or something. I'm whiter than tipex
@@BulletProof_Viking As things are here currently I suspect you would be arrested and charged with some sort of hate crime! 😒
Do you really think Steve McQueen chose that name? McQueen is of Caribbean heritage. Most Caribbean people have Irish, Scottish and Welsh names. There was event called slavery where they were stripped of their original African names.
The level of ignorance is astonishing.
Ah... an alternate history SciFi/Fantasy movie. 🤪
An episode of the Twilight Zone
Alternate? Soon this will be the *only* version of history.
* alternative
@@mark314158 For all intents and purposes, alternate and alternative are synonymous. Both words date to the middle of the 16th century, and both describe a choice apart from what is first offered: an alternate viewpoint; an alternative suggestion.
If you wish to be a pedant then the following is a better way to define both words.
An alternate is something or someone that serves in place of another. An alternative is a second option that does not replace the first. For example, when a road undergoing maintenance is closed to traffic, you have to take an alternate route. But when an under-construction road is still accessible to traffic, you might choose to take an alternative route to avoid congestion. The first option is still there, and the alternative gives you a choice.
@@ronnietexan The Paratime Patrol of the Crosstime Trade Consortium approves your explanation.
Be excellent to each other, and... PARTY ON!!! 😸
This is why all footage and archives of our history need to be preserved at all costs.
Got photographs from beach holidays on Tyneside 1960s. My family, and hundreds of strangers in the back ground. ALL indigenous. Not a non white face to be seen anywhere.
@@Occident.Exactly
Just wait for AI to change that,
@@Occident.
Soon all evidence to contradict the narrative will become contraband
Appears TH-cam removed my comment again
In decades to come old people will talk about when they were a majority all across the country and that its not a myth.
Nonsense. They'll get arrested for even whispering that.
Is the movie about them hearing it in the news in africa?
Oh mammy, we done got blitzed now !
@@smogthehorse9409 Is the movie fiction?
"This is BBC Africa". We have no shortages of potential presenters.
My mum grew up in islington.. She was 17 when the war broke out... The first black person she ever saw was an American GI coming out of Highbury Tube station in 1943... It made her jump out of her skin to paraphrase her recall.....
It happens. I saw my first b on a London bus when I was about 3 in the 1960s. My mum shushed me up after I had pointed to him and said "dirty".
By 1940 most London children had been evacuated to the country.
-apart from the Black ones?....🤔😆
They didn’t have any family or friends in the country
I wasnt
The only Steve McQueen I remember is the white blonde haired fellow who acted in many great films and actually served in the Korean war for his country America.. 🗽🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
He was a helluva driver as well.
The Great Escape with the REAL Steve McQueen was a great film 👍 Ironically, Black Steve McQueen's films are about escapism , from the real world and truth 😂
Handsome man too....
"blond" unless he has had gender reassignment surgery.
The real Steve McQueen ❤
Steve looked so different in The Great Escape.
Yes, he looked like just about any old Tom, Dick or Harry.
When they remake it the camp commandant will be African.
I think you may be mistaking it for the part he played in The Dam Busters. I'm sure you know which one. Woof woof!
@@marekohampton8477
I’d heard a rumour that Dambusters was to be remade. In it Guy Gibson is played by Idris Elba and he has a white dog named Honky.
There’ll only ever be one Steve McQueen.
Yes, my enjoyment of a recent movie about Churchill was marred by his fictional encounter on the London underground with an unusually literate and erudite young man of African appearance who was supposedly a typical Londoner.
I should have scrolled down. I make the same point above. I think it was 'The Darkest Hour'
@@charlytaylor1748dors the title refer to the encounter on the underground ?
@@smogthehorse9409 never thought about it, but it's obvious now you say it
Is it any worse that seeing the film Belfast and seeing black policemen on the streets of Belfast in the 60's. Beyond crass and moronic. I walked out of the film.
A total disgrace😮
A personal view of the blitz as seen from Basutoland.
It's so disrespectful and so 'in your face' that it can only come from a deep hatred and spite. A real 'hate crime' as it were.
Perhaps his next film could be about a German death camp where all the prisoners are sub-Saharan Africans.
Labour camps.
Oh yes please...😂
That would be set in German South West Africa, or Namibia in 1904.
I could watch that.
Surely it should be all the camp guards that are black
My dad was born in 1930, lived in Sheffield and didn’t see a Black person till he was 15 or 16yrs old.
That's Sheffield for you.
Please elaborate @@bassetdad437
What point are you trying to make? Because you didn’t see something with your own eyes, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Prior to the Windrush, most black people in Britain lived in Port cities such as Liverpool, Bristol, Cardiff and London.
Even though Simon calls himself a historian. He does very little research. I can google and see evidence of black people in London in the 1930’s and 1940’s. There were plenty black and mixed race children. So to suggest that there were no black children is ridiculous.
@@Devie141 Typical ‘lefties’ reply. Where did I say there were no Black people? It infers there were very few. I google photos Liverpool 1940’s and out of hundreds of photos there was one taken in Pitt st that had Blacks on it.
I was born in the 80s and was about 13 before seeing a black person in the flesh.
I can't ever recall seeing a black child in the footage of the underground during the blitz.
They'll AI edit them into archival footage soon.
@@malicant123 yep
Having left London in April 1941, I returned for a weekend in 1944 and spent two uncomfortable nights sleeping on the platform in the tube because of the air raids. I returned again for good in January 46 and throughout the forties I never saw a single black child.
You don't even have to back that far. Wife and I watched a film of London in the 1950s and there wasn't a single one.
That's because of the limitations of photo emulsions at the time: A much shorter exposure was required. Otherwise all blac_ objects would get washed out.
Think of all the opportunities to nick stuff
If you have no history of your own - steal someone elses.
The black on the tube in His Darkest hour ruined the Churchill film for me.
Blacks! There were several in that scene. Ruined the film!
Yep, I turned tv off in disgust.
Yep, I felt exactly the same way. It was totally ridiculous. I actually thought it was some kind of surreal dream sequence. I'm surprised he didn't say "Lumme Guvnor" 😊
Can someone please tell me why film directors do all this knowing that the majority of viewers will be sick of this propaganda.
@@davidcoxall3270 humiliation
Another load of tosh that I will never watch.
F*cking hell, there is no let up! I find it all childishly pathetic, and if the results weren't so bad for the country it would be funny.
It is sad, pathetic and desperate. Also bipolar as they say it's a evil history and legacy yet demand they were foundational to it.
How do these ninnies get the funding to spread such lies?
l wonder how much taxpayer money and tax breaks for this DEI film
Almost impossible to watch anything these days without out of place blacks in it, and often they are poor actors and always victims or in positive roles, it's propaganda.
And I think it does more harm than good for the cause of anti racism.
Also TV ads these days almost always seem to depict mixed-race families. But then TV is fantasyland after all.
The only Steve McQueen I know about is the star that was in The Great Escape. Great film, great actor.
I get sick of seeing the Guardian's begging letter and talk of "because of bad actors" they need to beg to support their "brilliant journalism" - what a laugh. I only ever read their articles to check what garbage they're talking this time after someone directs me to it. Fish n chip wrapping.
Exactly. They are bad actors themselves.
They might be a bit short of cash after pledging to pay reparations from their links to historic slavery.
I suspect they are already nicely looked after
No. The grueniad should not be used for fish and chip wrapping. Even on a nail on the back of the toilet door overstated it's usefulness.
Toilet paper.
If the Londoners saw a black person in 1940, they almost certainly would have been more shocked and horrified of them than the bombs dropping outside!!!
Are you this ignorant ?
Or it could have been a coal miner.
@@bernventer5949 I'm suddenly thinking of Scum now 😏
American GI's came to the UK , and there is a story of the White GI's wanting segregation in the pubs , the Brits did not like that and it came to blows , after all if someone will die for/with you , you can drink with them.
@@Handmethekeys
"I'm the daddy now!"
Child would be thinking...
'Where am I?'
Nothing new here ,it's why I stopped watching tv years ago.
Distributed by the Cohen Cartel no doubt!
Complimenting any of that Cohenstein bunch is tantamount to anti-semenism.
A different kind of blasphemy law.
"Put that light out!"
👀
"And you... put your bledin' sunglasses on..."
awa with ye, mon, let me finish me bong
"Stop smiling. This isn't funny!"
Whenever I hear the name of Steve McQueen I am amazed he did so much work before he died.
And after he died...
Everyone was black in the 1930's. Black or white depending on how you dialed the contrast on your teevee
I was a child in London during the BLITZ and did not see a black person till the Yanks arrived in 1944.
My grandfather told me same thing
@@BulletProof_Viking There was more chance of seeing Big Foot in the London Tube Station's in 1940 than a Black Man !
My mum said the same about Manchester. She grew up in the late thirties near Salford docks and she says that the first blck or asians she saw were American soldiers.
I'm sure if my Mum was still around she would confirm that
Lot of Military families from the commonwealth settled in Britain from 1919 are you all this slow, some people in Britain has not seen a Black person before in 2024 much less the 40s , the Ignorance is hilarious!
The world is nuts !
I first met a brown person in around 1955 when I was 8 or so. He was a very nice man who always wore an overcoat no matter the weather and would give me a penny every time we met. At that time he was a curiosity
So an alt history fantasy.
I'd like to see a movie about "1632" from Eric Flint. There are even two spots open for black actors. Dr. James Nichols and his daughter Sharon
The only black people in Grantville West Virginia(visiting for a wedding), when it was transported back in time to 1632 Thuringia in the ongoing 30 years war. 🤗
In the movie '1917' the occasional black soldier can be seen in the trenches, an otherwise good film ruined by historical inaccuracies.
That brings grants to the film makers.
@@bassetdad437 ....money before truth.
There were actually quite a lot of black and brown soldiers in WW1, recruited from the British and French empires. They usually fought in units of their own rather than mingling with white soldiers.
@@bernardedwards8461 Indian troops started arriving on the Western Front from September 1914. Sikh soldiers fought bravely, receiving world wide news coverage of their involvement in the war. The Sikh troops played a crucial role in the first battle of Ypres, yet their contribution was not widely rewarded after the war. Some were shown sitting in the back of troop trucks mixed with the brits, moving towards the front in the movie 1917.
@@bernardedwards8461 ...........watch 'actual' footage of WW1 and you won't see any.....!
Let us look at this logically. It is estimated that prior to 1942, when American troops arrived in Britain, the black population for the entire country numbered 8,000 to 10,000 and were mostly centred in port cities and dockyard areas . The population of London in 1939 was 8.5 million and in ‘central London’ was just over 4 million. The chances of a blond English girl having a relationship (let alone marrying) a black man in the late 1930’s was highly unlikely. Not only would such a union be frowned upon, indeed the couple being ostracised, but such a girl, unless extremely well travelled or hung around the docks, would probably never even meet a black person.
She's a ginger girl with bleach blonde hair with Irish looks. Even more unrealism for a period movie when Irish people were persecuted.
An Asian personality reminiscing on a documentary some years ago, claimed as a child he would run indoors when heard the sirens during the WW2, the problem with that is he wasn't born until 1962. The virtual signalling started many years ago and has gathered pace especially in the last two years.
One of the few TV shows I can be bothered to watch these days is the Footage Detectives on Talking Pictures TV. For those unfamiliar with this brilliant show presenters Noel Cronin and Mike Read uncover all sorts of footage from Britain's past and its people at work, rest and play. It really is fascinating. We see a homogenous cohesive country at ease with itself across the social spectrum. Uncomfortable viewing for the "Britain was always multicultural" brigade, I fear 😄
As my grandma always said "Don't let anyone tell you Winston was not black, the clue's in the name my boy."
These lies are very disrespectful to the real londoners that endured thr blitz
Is it a comedy, will the German pilots be black as well 😜. Just how many black English people were in London n 1940. I will never watch it.
There won't be any black Germans. The 'baddies' will all be white.
Yes they are, and hitler is played by a mixed race person 🤪
Herman Goering was a well known member of BLM.
Will the Tuskegee Airpersons feature a squadron of repressed wyt dudes ? Harsh.
There really is no big surprise here. This is the way that ideological takeovers always work; the past must be seen through the lens of the present and completely rewritten.
I was born in Edinburgh in 1944. The first person of colour I ever saw was at university there and his name was Vijay Kumar. The first person from the Caribbean was in Manchester 1963 when visiting my boyfriend. This was so uncommon that I have remembered it all these years later.
There's no such thing as coloured people. Just people from different parts of the world. All humans have a skin, hair and eye colour.
The 1987 John Boorman film Hope and Glory is a more accurate portrayal.
Well worth watching. A wonderful human story
These were dark times for London
Full of chimney sweepers
This needs a boycott. Let’s show them with our silence seeing as we can be arrested for telling our true feelings on social media.
Too late. You never existed.
I'm always surprised that there is an audience for these Films , and even more surprised that they can find Financial backers to make them in the First place ?
@@lezbarker2673 Tax money. DEI don't care!
So long as we are remaining silent outside the exclusion zone of certain "medical" facilities....we should be OK! (Maybe need to pace out 150 yards, then add ten steps for luck!)
Just as the public did with that woke clowness serie the acolyte.
I usually dont watch or buy film with Tyrone in it unless its basketball context or something 😆
Tyrone is a county they're trying to appropriate it and all
ANGLOPHOBIC BLITZ - A new film, which shows the 1940 Blitz on London through the eyes of a black person...
I thought Steve Macqueen was the bloke on the motorbike in The Great Escape.
I thought it was Steve McQueen who played in the 1958 movie The Blob.
He was the real McCoy.
'The fantasy film 12 years a slave'.
I almost crashed the car when I heard that point so casually delivered.
McQueen's problem is that he was born 29 years too late. Those of us who were part of the immediate recovery from the war (albeit in a very junior status) were able to recognise in our number the early very British black faces that were not from mixed marriages but the black GI left overs that grew up as part of White families. The most memorable feature of the few I came into contact with is that in conjunction with the highlighting of fundemental needs and stress relief that accompanied peace these children were absorbed without wrecking families or being different to the rest of us in any way other than the colour of their skin. Those were times when the back door might be open but visitors knocked to announce their arrival instead of blundering in unvited.
Their cranio-facial features are obvious to those who are educated.
I noticed a book on the History of Plymouth in Waterstones and on the cover was of course a black women !
It must have cost a fortune to edit out all the black people in contemporary films of the blitz
you would need to have a bonfire night every night for a year or two to get rid of all of those british family photo albums with not a foreign face in sight.
If they were already here why do they make such a big deal about the job seekers on the Empire Windrush?
The only job my grandpa could find when he came back from the war was a bus driver. So surely they were actually taking the jobs from people who needed them?
I heard a radio program this morning on the BBC about a black man who had been promoted & walked to the North Pole or somewhere.I expect next he will be eclipsing Shackelton.🙂
yes , he is now leader of the scouts.
Perhaps he climbed Everest. To give brown people their due, Sherpa Tensing was equal first to the top of Everest with Hilary in 1953.
@@bernardedwards8461 He was'nt a black African.He was a native & he got plenty of credit for that.
@@nicholasmorrill4711 Sherpas are all Nepalese, I didn't think it necessary to tell people that. Nepalese are brown.
@@bernardedwards8461 Yet that is exactly what you did do when you said "To give brown people their due, Sherpa Tensing was equal first to the top of Everest with Hilary in 1953."
All you need to do is look at old photos to see just how non black england was.
I bet this film is going to be a box office smash 😂😂
My father was an auxiliary fireman between 1940 -1942. He were a Londoner and the thought of a black-skinned child watching Luftwaffe bombs falling from the sky would have had him choking on his biscuits in disbelief.
My Grandfather also, 1938-1944, based in Plumstead. He would have said "What a load o' bloody rubbish!"
It's not difficult to google who is producing the film.
I thought that "cultural appropriation" was a bad thing?
Formerly our darkest hour.
In 1951, there were only 30k black people in the entire UK. My mother was born in the early 1950s and didn't see a black person until the 1970s when she moved to Manchester after getting married. My mother never said or did a racist thing in her entire live, my father, on the other hand, travelled the world and had been in the army, was very racist. It's an interesting comparison.
I've become increasing racist the more countries I have visited...
@fabiosplendido9536 It's funny, one of the interesting definitions of racism is: diversity + proximity = racism.
If I had to link 'Steve McQueen' and 'WW2 Film' I'd probably suggest 'The Great Escape'.
As someone who lost a grandmother and two aunts in the Blitz, I feel insulted by how they are allowed to make something which is nothing but a downfaced lie about that period of history.
Box, Tick, Job done…… where’s my Oscar?
There was a huge input during and after the War from black, brown and all other folk in the commonwealth and elsewhere. Much was in the services both here and overseas where people served with hard work and valour. To most older or young educated British people this is very much appreciated. The UK was populated mainly by white people in a domestic situation until the 1960's. I like the people of my age know this as fact, we travelled our country, we were there. To knowingly lie or distort history should be a criminal offence in whatever form, media, from government, in education etc. There must be a clear distinction between fact and fiction in law before we can regain the balanced society we had in the recent past. Our young people deserve nothing less.
We shouldbe able to report and comment on inaccuracies and falsifications without being censored, but the MSM want us all to live in their fantasy world.
This brings new meaning to the term "black out" concerning the London blitz during WWII.