I have a comment. I have twenty five years as a tractor trailer operator.Now... I went over this over and over again. This company has been at this for many many years. I am shocked that nobody did the math once the load crested the hill the weight became 10 times greater. That being said,Why didn't the trailer brakes hold there was sufficient weight on the trailer for it to stop. The way the lead tractor was behaving is as if the trailer brakes were not even connected which by today's technology makes no sense because they just wouldn't release. And the rear tractor was using a chain to control the load when it became taught instead of a tow bar. And no one bothered to clear the road ahead and there was plenty of space next to the structure in the distance. A lot went wrong here and that machine is no toy.
You missed the fact that the brakes WERE adequate to lock up the wheels! The braking problem was because of the dirt and gravel road. Other than that you are correct about the comedy of errors going on here.
I'm surprised that this is Mammoet. I've escorted them on many supermoves during my time as a P/O and they were always 100% safe, experienced and professional. They navigated my city with massive objects like it was nothing, without incident
I agree I would have let the brakes off and let it roll. I have had 200,000 lb coal trucks push me like that you have to let the brakes off pick up a little speed and stay ahead of it but not let it control you and you control it. I think the pusher truck could have helped more. But at least no one got hurt that's the most important thing. This accident could have been a hell of a lot worse
mostly correct, Kevin. The driver of lead tractor, should have just ' let 'er go.....to save himself from jacknifing....and poor leadership, leaving vehicles on the road lower down below....oh well. NO one ' physically ' injured.....just a humbling xperience, for all. And insurance companies.....etc...
My 2 cents... Most of the comments are as stupid as this accident. The ONLY this that would have prevented this is working trailer brakes. Too much load weight for two trucks alone to stop on that loose surface period. They actually lucked out that it stopped without gaining speed. This was the best possible outcome and no lives lost. I feel like the top heavy load would have broke the tie downs and been ejected at a high speed. I bet if any of them still have a job they test brakes before they are needed next time. I know I would have if I was moving something like this (after watching this video) but probably would have ASSUMED like they did that everything was working... Very easy to watch this and judge and comment. If you have all the brake lines attached it should work... Right?? one would think. I'm sure everyone on here physically checks to see the calipers are pushing the pads against the rotors every time before they drive by the comments I have read. If you live on a hill do you hit your brakes before you actually need them every day just to be safe and test them? We all get in our vehicles and drive and know when we hit the brake pedal they will work. Why not? They worked yesterday... Again. Very easy to judge this video. Learn from other people's mistakes is the best way to live life. You might live another day.
Stupid comment. Of course PROs check the brakes and tires to keep them in perfect condition. Because it the only way to prevent this very stupid accidents and dying early.
Never been a part of moving this kind of load but as a traffic controller we are taught about spotting and distance to the load being moved. rule of thumb is outside of "oh shit it went bad" zone plus room to retreat. Lots of people lollygagging and way to close to the load. Road ahead should have been completely clear and the speed of load kept much slower initially.
the brakes were locked-- it was sliding, the guy out in front running-- was warning everyone to clear out.. Brave guy. The back truck wheel were rolling when the guy jumped out,,, it was not locked up. Put as all accidents who ever was in charge screwed up. I have had bosses that tell you to lie,cheat, steal.. I have always said no or quit. I think it was some boss pushing to do it wrong to try to save a buck.
Boss : Guys did you get the crane unloaded ? Workers : Yep it came off slick as snot on a door knob . Boss : Excellent . Workers : Think we could get our holiday pay early Boss for getting it off the train so quick ?
Off the brakes, back on when your straight, off again, back on, you will get down the hill faster but without dumping the load. Additionally this was a result of poor site preparation. Low traction surface plus too steep a grade plus inexperienced driver. you get a crane over the side.
stupid question but did the trailer actually have brakes or did they fail... seems like a pretty obvious outcome lol. If traction was an issue for the trailer then wouldn't it have been locking up aswell. I couldn't see traction being an issue with that much weight on it spread across a large contact patch.
Yeah, trying to run to catch up to the front rig PAST THOSE ROCKS & almost falling under the wheels, well.... I guess we would be watching another video!!
I was thinking it was going to involve the guy walking on the lower side, so close to all them wheels. What a legend though. When he realises its going wrong, he runs ahead to warn others!
If only the first driver had kept his wheels spinning, he would have been able to keep the direction he wanted. The rear drive could have locked up his truck to slow it down a little until they hit the flat ground. Some people..
Yep. They probably could have rode that out if the back had locked his wheels up while the front steered towards safety. Then again there's no telling what would've happened if it got bouncy or if someone was in the way. All in all this was a pretty good outcome I'd say.
I went out camping with my dad and we had our 5000lb trailer heading along some dirt trail that was loose. My dad said if you move to fast and try to turn that will happen with it just pushing you and you can't stop. Looks like he got a little to fast and then was trying to adjust course which set it off.
Ok dude.... let me be clearer: I said "another" truck at rear... which means plus, extra, additional.... etc. I saw the one at the rear but it wasn't enough to hold back the massive weight.
Path should have been cleared before attempting. Lead driver would have been able to coast down with heavy braking and rolled to a stop at the bottom. Instead he locked up brakes and jackknifed because he had nowhere to go.
As the trailer crested the hill, the weight of the trailer wheels was mostly on the rear ones. The front ones without any weight are locked up under braking. The lead tractor is going to lock up easy with relatively little weight on the drives. The loss braking traction at the beginning lead to the runaway. Speed was building quickly; and control was easily lost. I had wondered why the driver did not lift off the brakes and attempt a straight threshold controlled run down as the Forman was indicating him to do; but just at the end you see the path being blocked by a white truck hauling a crane boom. There should have been no traffic at all in the path of travel for this move. What I originally thought was driver error. I now think was a driver with no place to go and running out of options. Might also have been in too low a gear on the planetary drives causing too much braking force on the drive wheels leading to an imbalance in the braking force being applied to the trailer. Lifting off the foot valve and grabbing the independent hand valve (if available) would have also been good. LOL, so easy for us all to armchair drive this in hindsight! I wonder how long it took the driver to stop shaking after this?
Never had an accident like that but I that exact feeling. Coming down a really long grade and there were flashing yellow lights telling you there was a traffic light ahead. I started gear down and braking but the hill was steeper and load heavier than I thought. I started blowing my horn and flashing my lights. Nobody moved. I was able to stop but it was on the other side of the intersection. I guess I wasn't the first truck to do this. Yes, skid marks are a real thing.
I hear ya. But still, the trailer should of helped some. But yes the chain of events here must of been get that freaking thing there we got work to do. Judging from the rear operator jumping from his tractor like that makes me think there's a lot more going on there than the film shows.
Wow, I wish all cameramen were this good! Didn't shake the camera once, kept it on the action instead of dropping it and freaking out, didn't even start yelling and carrying on. Thumbs up for that alone! As for the accident, I don't know. Someone says it was because the truck at the bottom arrived and was in the way. It doesn't appear to have moved, you can see the door open and the driver walking around; if it had been there so long, why didn't they notice it before they got onto the slope? But, on the other hand, the place it's parked doesn't appear to leave any room for the crane to get past, so I don't know. Maybe it did just show up. I also think that the chain they had the second truck attached with seems really small. Wouldn't a bigger chain or drawbar be better? The driver was kind of dumb to jump out like that too. Did he think the crane was going to fall uphill on him or what? Last, I love those trucks; I wish all trucks looked like that. Modern trucks look like Toyota Priuses.
That driver had no clue what he was doing. He locked up the brakes. The second that truck started to slide he needed to ease off so the trailer didn't push him sideways.
Well lets say that this car body weighs 100 ton , you can easily get 2 crawlers close enough to pick it , PLUS the company moving this is a top class outfit , they have lots of resources
Surely you’d think they would of known it would be a job to control a load like that on a gradient especially when the roads made of type 1 stone or similar, should of had a D9 creeping in front stopping that load running anywhere!! That’s a lot of a job to get that back on the trailer ! And I can only imagine how that would slow progress down on that job with that firmly down the batter there ! Crazy ! P45 s flying everywhere! And everyone will be blaming the other guy , I can practically feel the excuses from here !!
the driver was getting hand signals from the guy on the ground. this may have caused him confusion and led to improper braking when he should have just let it go. The white truck in front of him may have been another concern that led him to make the wrong decision. Does anyone else find the very small steel cable connecting the second truck to the trailer worrisome?
I like how the second driver bailed out then jumped back in hoping nobody will notice
He jumped back in to apply his brakes
@@hughezzell10000 Had he been doing that all along they may have had a chance!
Friggin' clown🤡
@@mjhmech4903 its a semi, button on the dash will release air pressure and set all brakes at 100%
I have a comment. I have twenty five years as a tractor trailer operator.Now... I went over this over and over again. This company has been at this for many many years. I am shocked that nobody did the math once the load crested the hill the weight became 10 times greater. That being said,Why didn't the trailer brakes hold there was sufficient weight on the trailer for it to stop. The way the lead tractor was behaving is as if the trailer brakes were not even connected which by today's technology makes no sense because they just wouldn't release. And the rear tractor was using a chain to control the load when it became taught instead of a tow bar. And no one bothered to clear the road ahead and there was plenty of space next to the structure in the distance. A lot went wrong here and that machine is no toy.
You missed the fact that the brakes WERE adequate to lock up the wheels! The braking problem was because of the dirt and gravel road. Other than that you are correct about the comedy of errors going on here.
bulruq
the wheel on the trailer were still rolling, aka the brakes failed. the only stoping force this had was engine braking from both trucks.
Right that's what I thought I saw. The trailer brakes did not work.
I'm wondering if the axles on that trailer even HAVE brakes....
surly they would? but then again people do strange things.
Need a video on how they get that crane off the hillside.
Another crane.
That spotter up front was pretty damm brave... He barely looked back while the shit was hitting the fan
They say it was a crane, but it sure as hell looked to me like a laser cannon turret on the Death Star...
I want to see the video of the crane they bring in and set up to lift that crane out!
I can't believe there were no brakes on the bogies
On the bright side, at least the craine didn't go any further down the hill. :D
You know, I love how the guy in the rear truck jumped out like a pansy... But the driver in the front truck stayed with it till the end...
@@kerismith4034 Careful, your IQ is showing in that comment...
@@kerismith4034 Based off of your responses, pretty much...
I'm surprised that this is Mammoet. I've escorted them on many supermoves during my time as a P/O and they were always 100% safe, experienced and professional. They navigated my city with massive objects like it was nothing, without incident
Are We Sure It's Really Mammoet And Not A Cheap Chinese Knock Off???
Imagine the paperwork after that!
I'm not an engineer or a truckdriver and probably a bit 'simple minded' but I saw THAT coming!
God Bless the people who do this for a living. Got to be one one scariest jobs...
Well Ollie that’s another fine mess you got me into 😂
HEY.ABBOTT..
Probably less than 10 percent who watched this will understand that reference.
I agree I would have let the brakes off and let it roll. I have had 200,000 lb coal trucks push me like that you have to let the brakes off pick up a little speed and stay ahead of it but not let it control you and you control it. I think the pusher truck could have helped more. But at least no one got hurt that's the most important thing. This accident could have been a hell of a lot worse
mostly correct, Kevin. The driver of lead tractor, should have just ' let 'er go.....to save himself from jacknifing....and poor leadership, leaving vehicles on the road lower down below....oh well. NO one ' physically ' injured.....just a humbling xperience, for all. And insurance companies.....etc...
Definitely, the transport companies of South America are the champions in accidents due to bad management.
now they need another crane to pick up that crane.
Lol
My 2 cents... Most of the comments are as stupid as this accident. The ONLY this that would have prevented this is working trailer brakes. Too much load weight for two trucks alone to stop on that loose surface period. They actually lucked out that it stopped without gaining speed. This was the best possible outcome and no lives lost. I feel like the top heavy load would have broke the tie downs and been ejected at a high speed. I bet if any of them still have a job they test brakes before they are needed next time. I know I would have if I was moving something like this (after watching this video) but probably would have ASSUMED like they did that everything was working... Very easy to watch this and judge and comment. If you have all the brake lines attached it should work... Right?? one would think. I'm sure everyone on here physically checks to see the calipers are pushing the pads against the rotors every time before they drive by the comments I have read. If you live on a hill do you hit your brakes before you actually need them every day just to be safe and test them? We all get in our vehicles and drive and know when we hit the brake pedal they will work. Why not? They worked yesterday... Again. Very easy to judge this video. Learn from other people's mistakes is the best way to live life. You might live another day.
Stupid comment. Of course PROs check the brakes and tires to keep them in perfect condition. Because it the only way to prevent this very stupid accidents and dying early.
That was a multi million dollar accident. Glad I had no involvement.
Right about there will do fine. Thanks guys.
I love the arm Waving and the anchor tractor driver bailing out
Never been a part of moving this kind of load but as a traffic controller we are taught about spotting and distance to the load being moved. rule of thumb is outside of "oh shit it went bad" zone plus room to retreat. Lots of people lollygagging and way to close to the load. Road ahead should have been completely clear and the speed of load kept much slower initially.
the brakes were locked-- it was sliding, the guy out in front running-- was warning everyone to clear out.. Brave guy. The back truck wheel were rolling when the guy jumped out,,, it was not locked up. Put as all accidents who ever was in charge screwed up. I have had bosses that tell you to lie,cheat, steal.. I have always said no or quit. I think it was some boss pushing to do it wrong to try to save a buck.
Every axle should have had brakes on it.
And yes, they do have "jeeps" with air brakes. Run off the same compressor system as the air levelors.
Excellent video, camera man!!! Rock steady & good angles... Wish all fuck ups on camera were this quality hahaha
Enrique ¿cómo hubieras sacado tu esa máquina?. Me interesa mucho tu respuesta.
Boss : Guys did you get the crane unloaded ?
Workers : Yep it came off slick as snot on a door knob .
Boss : Excellent .
Workers : Think we could get our holiday pay early Boss for getting it off the train so quick ?
Without the boom the crane looks like some king of awesome anti-aircraft gun....
Do the trailer axles have brakes on them?
Looks like someone missed physics class
Off the brakes, back on when your straight, off again, back on, you will get down the hill faster but without dumping the load. Additionally this was a result of poor site preparation. Low traction surface plus too steep a grade plus inexperienced driver. you get a crane over the side.
Well you definitely sound like you know what your talking about
Should have winched it down that hill,slower but you will get it there safely. All good in hindsight though.
stupid question but did the trailer actually have brakes or did they fail... seems like a pretty obvious outcome lol. If traction was an issue for the trailer then wouldn't it have been locking up aswell. I couldn't see traction being an issue with that much weight on it spread across a large contact patch.
Just looking at the materials trowed all around and you know there is some potential at that working place for some issues.
finaly someone figured it out loll good for you...not many did so far
Did any one notice that there were no brakes on the trailer?none apply at the time?
That dude was brave running out ahead of that thing.
Stupid not brave! I would dismiss him for gross incompetence.
Yeah, trying to run to catch up to the front rig PAST THOSE ROCKS & almost falling under the wheels, well.... I guess we would be watching another video!!
Is he is called a safety officer?
I like the guy in the red jumpsuit flaping his arms like a bird....flap flap crash
I was thinking it was going to involve the guy walking on the lower side, so close to all them wheels.
What a legend though. When he realises its going wrong, he runs ahead to warn others!
If only the first driver had kept his wheels spinning, he would have been able to keep the direction he wanted. The rear drive could have locked up his truck to slow it down a little until they hit the flat ground. Some people..
Yep. They probably could have rode that out if the back had locked his wheels up while the front steered towards safety. Then again there's no telling what would've happened if it got bouncy or if someone was in the way. All in all this was a pretty good outcome I'd say.
relying on drum brakes on a near 45 angled slope. do they use ps controllers for steering and braking
The rear truck driver is my hero.
The beast part is hey lets pull this back up.
I think it's best to about 4 blocks away when observing things that big in motion. :)
The first guy rightly said: go! go! faster! don't slow down! He was right I think.
I went out camping with my dad and we had our 5000lb trailer heading along some dirt trail that was loose. My dad said if you move to fast and try to turn that will happen with it just pushing you and you can't stop. Looks like he got a little to fast and then was trying to adjust course which set it off.
Truck pulls in the way and blocks their exit. Outstanding.
That's another fine mess you've got me into!
Obviously Stan and Hollie were driving.
That was awesome!
Ok dude.... let me be clearer: I said "another" truck at rear... which means plus, extra, additional.... etc. I saw the one at the rear but it wasn't enough to hold back the massive weight.
There was no intention of braking at first, it's a oncoming vehicle who made them fail.
not that the driver wasn't trying to stop. its just that it can't because of the weight of that crane, it was pushing it.
If the lead driver just had the guts to take his foot off the brakes.
I hope no one was injured; "Dear Boss, OH FUCK!"
Signed, the crew that just quit....
They needed more prime movers on the back of the trailer to slow it down!
Thanks to the camera operator. Kept a cool head to capture it all.
NAILED IT!
LUNCH ANYONE
nice work it saves them unloading it !
Nice truck you got there
Now they are going to need to haul in a piece of machinery that lifts heavy things.
Yo, Boss... much water has passed under the bridge since we last spoke!
0:36 When the Banksman trips over, things will not end well.
Who did the task analysis on that?
Having that man running ahead of the lead truck certainly didn't help.
That guy never should have rode the brakes he created it
Path should have been cleared before attempting. Lead driver would have been able to coast down with heavy braking and rolled to a stop at the bottom. Instead he locked up brakes and jackknifed because he had nowhere to go.
Good publicity for mammoet. Gonna need a mammoet crane to lift that back on the trailer.
The dude in the push truck made me laugh.Anyone bailing out like that is gonna try and sneak back in to the truck.any day o the week
Better hope that boss is even a little empathetic. 😏🤣
Es lo mas hermoso manejar un trailer, tengo varios videos de estos pero en el bosque
that shit looks hella heavy,,
I thought those trailers had brakes on every axle
As the trailer crested the hill, the weight of the trailer wheels was mostly on the rear ones. The front ones without any weight are locked up under braking. The lead tractor is going to lock up easy with relatively little weight on the drives. The loss braking traction at the beginning lead to the runaway. Speed was building quickly; and control was easily lost. I had wondered why the driver did not lift off the brakes and attempt a straight threshold controlled run down as the Forman was indicating him to do; but just at the end you see the path being blocked by a white truck hauling a crane boom. There should have been no traffic at all in the path of travel for this move. What I originally thought was driver error. I now think was a driver with no place to go and running out of options. Might also have been in too low a gear on the planetary drives causing too much braking force on the drive wheels leading to an imbalance in the braking force being applied to the trailer. Lifting off the foot valve and grabbing the independent hand valve (if available) would have also been good. LOL, so easy for us all to armchair drive this in hindsight! I wonder how long it took the driver to stop shaking after this?
Driver jumped out of the cab. Smart dude.
Never had an accident like that but I that exact feeling. Coming down a really long grade and there were flashing yellow lights telling you there was a traffic light ahead. I started gear down and braking but the hill was steeper and load heavier than I thought. I started blowing my horn and flashing my lights. Nobody moved. I was able to stop but it was on the other side of the intersection. I guess I wasn't the first truck to do this. Yes, skid marks are a real thing.
Skid marks in your pants I assume
@@markthebldr6834 Not that time. ;o)
Biological detergent is the answer
Hey boss, cranes here.
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how come the transporting trailer dont have alll BRAKES on all WHEELS same time
I hear ya. But still, the trailer should of helped some. But yes the chain of events here must of been get that freaking thing there we got work to do. Judging from the rear operator jumping from his tractor like that makes me think there's a lot more going on there than the film shows.
Wow, I wish all cameramen were this good! Didn't shake the camera once, kept it on the action instead of dropping it and freaking out, didn't even start yelling and carrying on. Thumbs up for that alone! As for the accident, I don't know. Someone says it was because the truck at the bottom arrived and was in the way. It doesn't appear to have moved, you can see the door open and the driver walking around; if it had been there so long, why didn't they notice it before they got onto the slope? But, on the other hand, the place it's parked doesn't appear to leave any room for the crane to get past, so I don't know. Maybe it did just show up.
I also think that the chain they had the second truck attached with seems really small. Wouldn't a bigger chain or drawbar be better? The driver was kind of dumb to jump out like that too. Did he think the crane was going to fall uphill on him or what?
Last, I love those trucks; I wish all trucks looked like that. Modern trucks look like Toyota Priuses.
That driver had no clue what he was doing. He locked up the brakes. The second that truck started to slide he needed to ease off so the trailer didn't push him sideways.
Que menso como se le ocurre frenarlo en esa bajada:v
i thought you were supposed to stay in the cab, its safer I though, but the second truck guy did a good job of jumping out
that was brilliant, have a nice big semi at the bottom where another giant truck is going to go......downhill.
Two words: trailer brakes.
Another 2 words: lack of.
I agree.. He was like fuck this I'm outta here
The Irony? that was the only crane to be able to pick itself up, lol
I'd like to see how they got that crane OUT of that predicament!
Well lets say that this car body weighs 100 ton , you can easily get 2 crawlers close enough to pick it , PLUS the company moving this is a top class outfit , they have lots of resources
Surely you’d think they would of known it would be a job to control a load like that on a gradient especially when the roads made of type 1 stone or similar, should of had a D9 creeping in front stopping that load running anywhere!! That’s a lot of a job to get that back on the trailer ! And I can only imagine how that would slow progress down on that job with that firmly down the batter there ! Crazy ! P45 s flying everywhere! And everyone will be blaming the other guy , I can practically feel the excuses from here !!
That's gonna leave a mark!
Love the guy in the rear truck jump out then jump back in after the crash
In Kramer voice: Well that didn't work.
Very surprising to see mammoet goof like this. They are world class operators, everyone is human though. Hope they’re all ok.
Part 2 ), Because the load double and even tripples its weight in downhill, Its hard to control it,
Even the ground guy was an idiot. Nice situational awareness, almost became roadkill.
Can anyone explain why the guy on the rear bailed doing 1 mph???
Para esa carga eran 3 camiones 4x3
the driver was getting hand signals from the guy on the ground. this may have caused him confusion and led to improper braking when he should have just let it go. The white truck in front of him may have been another concern that led him to make the wrong decision. Does anyone else find the very small steel cable connecting the second truck to the trailer worrisome?
Yo creo que todo iba bien hasta que alguien tiro esa cascara de plátano y valió m... Todo
Hahahahaha good one! 😆
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curious how they ended up recovering the crane
Why did the second truck driver jumped out of his truck, he didn't seem to be in a very dangerous situation?