I honestly don’t know how anyone can say First Take is better than Undisputed. It ain’t even close, Skip and Shannon are by far the best talk show in sports today and their dynamic makes every segment so much fun to watch.
@@goofy_xf6223 they will lose the audience if they talk hockey tennis soccer ect. Plus they're expertise is football and basketball. Wouldn't mind them talk mlb though since skip has such a vast knowledge
Finally get to see Shannon talk about his Broncos in a positive light instead of a negative one like in 2017. The last time they were good Undisputed wasn't on the air yet.
@@marcusgilmore5211 2015 and nothing relevant … until NOW. Defense always been solid to an extent and like shay said 11 QBS since Peyton hung up our orange and blue. Now add chandler jones and Bobby Wagner? Ooooooweeee
Finally!!! A LEGITIMATE reason to talk about Unc Shay’s Broncos!!!! Thanks for the likes. It’s nice for Undisputed to be more than just the Lebron/Brady/Cowboys Show
The Von Miller compensation took a lot of the hurt out of this trade. With him they only gave up a half year of what was turning out to be a mediocre to bad year. They would still be negotiating with Miller now even if he was with the team - he wasn't going to be franchised. I think the front office has done a great job.
Yes they have & George Patton is Brilliant So is elway for stepping aside for patton to work his Magic GO BRONCO'S Lets get Von back & Go after wagner if we can afford wag. LETS RIDE
What's amazing is skip is already crowned the Broncos and Shannon is so in love with that fact that he just ignores the fact that the Chiefs are still in the division oops forgot about that.
It’s amazing how everything went exactly opposite of what they said they’d be at the time. Reminds me just how shocking the drop of Russ truly has been. I hear all the Seattle folk saying it was already happening but for a non-Seahawks fan like me it is still insane for me to see how it happened.
The past 6 years were tuff for The Broncos and their fans…it’s nice to at least have a shot again now having Russ QB the team. The league is now the “haves & the have nots” in terms of having a top shelf QB. If you don’t have one of the best QBs, you can’t win. I hope Seattle can find a QB with our picks.
Not sure why he so excited ? Still got the Chiefs in their Div whom Den has dropped 13 straight games to! No one in today's NFL drops double-digit gms in a row to a Div rival..lol if they do than its more than just Quarterback play that's an issue! Wilson? All he's gonna do at best is have Broncos in the hunt for one of final AFC Wildcard spots come December 2022
@@bellahoughton84 I ment win a SuperBowl. With the rules being tilted in favor of the offenses now, you don’t see Super Bowls won with great defense and average QB play anymore..they are almost all won with teams with superstar QB’s like Brady, Mahomes, Manning, ect..
It's been down hill for us ever since Brock Osweiler took over! FINALLY!!! This is who I wanted since he came out of Wisconsin and I'm glad we finally got him better late then never. Younger then Manning at least
As a Seahawks fan,the Broncos are very lucky to get Wilson,he plays with determination and they will probably be one the best stat producing teams in a single season ever.
I hope he lights the sh*t out of Seattle. This will be like F8, when Dominic Toretto was forced to go rogue, and his team couldn’t stop him. Russ is going to go off in that Seattle game because he needs to beat LAC and Seattle to become just the 5th and youngest QB in NFL history to beat every NFL team. If he doesn’t beat Seattle this time, he won’t get another chance for what, 4 years? Who knows if he will still be with Denver or playing at all?
"I believe Aaron Rodgers wanted no part" exactly!! Rodgers was never going to Denver, I laughed when I heard people suggest that. He wants the easy path that the NFC North has given him his whole career. Russ has always had it tough so he's not scared.
Russell Wilson is not that good of a quarterback today you will see. After next year and then the year after that come back and say yep you were right you called it.
@@user-bg1bk6pd6e Jaguars fan here. Yes he is. 8 out of 10 playoffs, 2 SB appearances and 1 SB win. By saying what you said, I know that you don't know what it means to suffer. When you find yourself praying for just one win, that's when you'll know what you had in Russell Wilson. We Jags would've given him everything he asked for and more. We would've bought him an island off the coast of Jacksonville if he wanted it. You don't know suffering, but you will. Good luck
Wow it’s been a long time coming, I was 15 the last time broncos were even talked about, especially in a hopeful way. Now I’m 22 and everybody has got sumn good to say again and giving us hope! This is what being a fan is about fr I love the journey dawg 🙏🏽
Shay Shay always floors me with his oh so confident predictions. This aged like buttermilk in August. Yum. "Eff dem picks!". Just gold. Denver would tell where Jimmy Hoffa is to get em bk Let's Ride!!
It was actually because of Pete's system and 40+ years of knowledge of the game, that he knew which were the best positions to put Russell into for him to have success. RW has the talent, but Pete knew that Russell struggled with the terminology, staring down reads, and it took a lot to work around Russell's weaknesses offensively when it came to play calling.
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese pro bowls are a popularity contest if you make it when you don't deserve it. In Russ situation he damn well deserved at least 6 of those and he made all pro. Great thing about Russ is his consistency. And Pete Carroll is just above average not good. If big Ben and Philip rivers is considered elite then Russ is also elite
I know this is a different situation than it was in 2010, but Pete Carroll and John Schnieder did this once before. They cleaned house and brought in talents that weren’t big names and turned that into two Super Bowl appearances and the greatest play in Super Bowl history. As far as I know only one other team was looking at Russell in the 2012 draft. Maybe it was the worst move Seattle could make and I definitely went out for a drink but I’m going to maintain some hope for Seattle that we’re just doing something that’s never been done
@@TONEakaSHOW didn’t he have the most wins in the first 10 years of any QBs career? That is pretty good. He wins another super bowl or two and he’s in top 5
Shannon just described the Broncos problem at the 10:50 mark : "No team in the last 5 years plays defense well enough to compensate for poor QB play. If you have an average QB, you can't win."
This is worse robbery than the tom brady trade (yes i know he won a superbowl, which is hard to beat). But Russell is 13 years younger than Brady and is in his prime.
@@tropicalterrarium1742 Tom brady wasn't a trade. Free agent signing. So getting TB for nothing is better than a prime Russ for a bunch of picks. Broncos still won the deal.
i will say i think they will...but i think it could take a season or two to get acclimated to denver...even manning had to do so...but i DO think, with wilson, we Will make the playoffs and possibly within, 2 to 4 years, with him we can make another superbowl win
100%. They have a great D, and solid offensive players. Russ is so smart. He'll play the game manager role for 3 quarters and win it in the 4th. You can't win with a great d and mediocre qb's anymore, but you can win with great d and mistake free qb play. I think 25tds and 6 ints will be good enough.
Been a hawks fan since the 70’s. This trade is like skip said the steal of the century. Best QB seattles ever had and his status is seriously downplayed because a lot of people don’t like his personality. Too goody goody, teammates have supposedly said “not black enough”, praising God in interviews. You push all that aside and look at what he’s accomplished on the field. He’s gonna tear it up in the AFC west. Have fun
@@tylertipke4885 Yes. Won a Superbowl, should’ve been 2 but that’s a different story. In the playoffs damn near every year and is very consistent. Plus, he basically single-handedly won most of their games the past few seasons because his defense was bad. You know what you’re getting from him when he is on the field.
@@vinestheviking84 yes and no. He has built a rapport with lockett in scramble drills and games and he can't see over the line to make a 5 yard slant. He isn't a traditional qb so you have to build the run/play action game with him
I'm not just saying this because Russ has now gone to Denver but if I had to pick 3 teams to support the Broncos would be one of them. I wish Russ nothing but the best and even though he and Wagner have gone I will always be a Seahawks fan because I love them
I called it when it was happening. Russ did check out on Pete. He only rushed back from that injury to prove to other teams that he could play, and it worked.
Sorry but you are stuck with Mayfield.. Don’t worry though, Mayfield was the #1 overall pick and he says he is a great quarterback so you will be fine.. just ask him 😊
Oh Shannon about to be going crazy for his Broncos now. On a side note AFC West next year it's gonna be a bloodbath when the worst QB is Carr you know it's crazy.
@@1Scital1 Average at best? He makes some bad late game decisions, but certainly better than average. Please tell me the 15 qb's that are better. When half the qb's are trash, its hard to say average at best. I'm not a raiders fan or a carr fan, but thats such an idiotic statement.
If russ says yes shannon finally gets to talk about his broncos regularly idk if fs1 will allow it though, also the turning point is when the decision was made not to give marshawn the ball, it will go down as one of the greatest what ifs and what would brady do, would the patriots still win? After all these years i still remember watching it i wonder how russ feels and marshawn, skip said essentially russ gave up last season and was injured lol
Skip was correct about it being the "steal of the century", but the other way around. To their credit, they were mostly right about the Broncos' defense, though.
I really do question what’s going on in Seattle… this is a clear rebuild. I’m shocked they just gave up Bobby Wagner, and didn’t even try to get a suitor for him.
Making too much money. He was going to make like $20 million next year with a huge cap hit. He can probably get picked up by somebody, but that contract wasn't moveable.
I'm excited for Wilson! Finally, we'll get to see the real RW! I'm a Hawks fan, but a bigger Wilson fan. I think Carroll suppressed, and stunted Wilson as a QB. I'll be watching Wilson! I'll be watching Pete Carroll's answer to Wilson's absence. No one to bail out Pete in the final minutes anymore... I think Pete may retire early, when it becomes obvious his successes were on the shoulders of Wilson. No Q B in that division? Good luck!
Russ had underrated talent surrounding him. Hes good enough to take a strong team far but he isnt even a shadow of what we thought he could be as that superbowl team slowly disappeared. Honestly when was the last magical season with Russ...14-15
@@dallasbishop6519 My goodness with the pathetic offensive line, and no consistent running game. With the worst defense in the N F L? With a coach that's still thinking 50's football.... He was never allowed to open up his game. Still probably the most accurate long ball thrower in the N F L....
@@keithsparling5537 The grass is not always greener on the other side. If it is, it could be because that's where the dogs are shitting. Seattle treats it's players very well (Wagner notwithstanding). Ask any vet who came there from somewhere successful.
What Skip said starting at 5:00 is REAL it is ABSOLUTELY a QB & offensive game nowadays!! The rules have changed so much that an elite defense is just not as good as a elite offense & personally it kinda sucks for me because I LOVED the hard hitting smash mouth football but it is what it is now it's a scoring league!!
Good lord I almost love Undisputed more then NFL lol. I listen to Skip and Shannon every single day. These guys are the absolute BEST in the sports talk show realm. Love this stuff. Love these 2 hosts. Best show on TV. Period. Sportscenter is great too. But I take Undisputed all day long!!!!
Lock will get a chance to compete, but it is simply not in Seattle's nature when they are addressing a position to just have one guy. My guess is either they flip the capital for a veteran QB, maybe even Watson, or they use the picks to build the team and use Lock as a passible bridge or they draft a QB in the second round they think can do the job. Lock will get his chance to compete, but you should not be looking at this as we traded Russell Wilson for Drew Lock, that is not at all what happened.
I wish Russell Wilson nothing but the best. I am a Hawks fan through and through. However, I am a Russell Wilson as well and I will be getting a Russell Wilson Broncos jersey. Yep! I said it and I'm keeping his Seahawks jersey too.
We easily won this, if we can protect Wilson, then we are an automatic threat. He’s 33 and I see him having his fire reignited with our young receivers
@@mokaPCP I mean I don’t miss the goose egg russ put up against greenbay so I mean if he wanted out whatever we can ride with geno for one year and find out what we can do the year after
I'm watching this and all I could think about is "Russ burned the whole damn meal" "let russ cook, we are going to starve" " broncos country, let's hide!" LMFAO
Easily the Denver Broncos won this trade. They get Russell Wilson, a known commodity, and an elite NFL quarterback. The Seahawks are getting draft picks and a few nice players, but if they repeat their history of whiffing on draft picks, the best thing they may receive from this might be Noah Fant who is a pretty good, not great yet, at this point, tight end. And don’t they already have Gerald Everett on their roster? Who might objectively be a better player at this point.
Seahawks aren’t winning another SB. They’ll won’t land a great QB. It is evident the Broncos are legit contenders now. The line in Denver will have Wilson throwing dime passes.
Skip probably thought the Vikings fleeced the Cowboys in 1989 with the Herschel Walker trade. Pete Carroll and John Schneider should be charged with robbery. Unless Russ makes the greatest career comeback ever, this deal sets the Broncos back for years.
I realize these shows are about having strong opinions to get a reaction, but there is no way to know who won this trade before we see how good the Broncos are with Wilson and how well the Seahawks use the draft picks and players to rebuild. And maybe there is no winner. It could end up being a win-win for both teams.
if it looked like it worked, then why not...aint no secret...everyone will do what it takes to win...cant shame Denver in doing so...just wouldnt wanna be a seahawks fan right now lol...i think id be scared to wear a denver jersey in washington lol
To be fair, Denver was willing to do it last year too with Aaron. So they weren't exactly copying the Rams, this has always been the play since Paton came in.
Let Russ age poorly in Denver. First week of December and Broncos have clinched a losing season. Seahawks have seven wins, which I am guessing is two more wins than the most optimistic expert forecast for them to win this season.
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Not even gonna mention Josh Allen??? WoW!
What about Shannon’s podcast why doesn’t he get a shout out
Yeah them two together is better. Undisputed.
Not even in the same conversation
It’s because they actually know what they’re talking about and they’re just not spewing non sense
This aged really well 😂
Lol
Lol Let's Go Croncos!
Russell just "gave up" his last year in Seattle 😆 Seahawks Fleeced the Broncos
Tremendously so
🤣
I honestly don’t know how anyone can say First Take is better than Undisputed. It ain’t even close, Skip and Shannon are by far the best talk show in sports today and their dynamic makes every segment so much fun to watch.
If you took the chemistry of undisputed and mixed it with the range of topics and production of first take it'd be perfect
It's been this way ever sense Ship left espn and hired Shay Shay
They need to talk about more than just cowboys Brady and Lebron tho.
There’s college sports, hockey and baseball.
@@goofy_xf6223 they will lose the audience if they talk hockey tennis soccer ect.
Plus they're expertise is football and basketball. Wouldn't mind them talk mlb though since skip has such a vast knowledge
@@goofy_xf6223 Shannon is TE man and Skip reported on football. It's gonna be mostly football and some star players in other sports like LeBron
Finally get to see Shannon talk about his Broncos in a positive light instead of a negative one like in 2017. The last time they were good Undisputed wasn't on the air yet.
What happened in 2017?
@@JayJay-vt7xs I think he just means he’s been talking bad about them for the past few years
@@JayJay-vt7xs they won a Super Bowl...
@Jay Jay They had a topic about what team was in worse shape the Raiders or the Broncos. Also the fight between Michael Crabtree and Aqib Talib.
@@marcusgilmore5211 2015 and nothing relevant … until NOW. Defense always been solid to an extent and like shay said 11 QBS since Peyton hung up our orange and blue. Now add chandler jones and Bobby Wagner? Ooooooweeee
Finally!!! A LEGITIMATE reason to talk about Unc Shay’s Broncos!!!!
Thanks for the likes. It’s nice for Undisputed to be more than just the Lebron/Brady/Cowboys Show
and not the lakers lol
Lmfao ikr
@@GoatedAtNFS lol facts bro
And with the broncos entering the conversation I’ll at least get two segments with my chargers 😭
Damn aint that the Truth
“This is flat out highway robbery” 😂😂😂
How little did they know it absolutely was highway robbery. Just not in the direction they thought. 😂
HIGHWAY ROBBERY ?
Those crazy highway robbers gave Russell Wilson $245 MILLION ! ! !
It actually turned out to be true...just not for the team Skip says.
Let russ cook! "He burned the whole damn meal and we all going to starve" "broncos country, let's hide!!! 🤣🤣🤣
A guy with CTE and also Shannon Sharpe.
I used to watch this video on repeat cause of how excited I was for Russ, oh how times have changed
The Von Miller compensation took a lot of the hurt out of this trade. With him they only gave up a half year of what was turning out to be a mediocre to bad year. They would still be negotiating with Miller now even if he was with the team - he wasn't going to be franchised. I think the front office has done a great job.
Yeah, Paton is proving to be an excellent GM. Let's go!
And here iam a giants fan 🤦🏾♂️
@@jonathanjacobs7063 could be worse, could be a texans fan like me lol
@@jonathanjacobs7063 we didn’t have enough to pay russ and a trade would’ve made us worse than we was. Which is saying something
Yes they have & George Patton is Brilliant So is elway for stepping aside for patton to work his Magic GO BRONCO'S Lets get Von back & Go after wagner if we can afford wag. LETS RIDE
Skip has always liked Russell Wilson but he is going to start to love him now that he's directly opposing Mahomes
Hahaha yup
I wonder how this is going to work for unc since he loves both 🤣🤣
What's amazing is skip is already crowned the Broncos and Shannon is so in love with that fact that he just ignores the fact that the Chiefs are still in the division oops forgot about that.
With good reasons Mahomes gets a lot of hype that he doesn’t deserve - as beautifully talented as he is.
Not to think chargers to and chargers have. A new good quarterback
It’s amazing how everything went exactly opposite of what they said they’d be at the time. Reminds me just how shocking the drop of Russ truly has been. I hear all the Seattle folk saying it was already happening but for a non-Seahawks fan like me it is still insane for me to see how it happened.
Denver is one of those under the radar franchises that makes a culture changing move every 4-5 years. Champ Bailey/Manning/Russell.
Shows Denver cant draft bro
@@Hawaiian_Cheesehead_85 No it doesn’t. They drafted most of the good players from this roster and the Sb roster.
GL on the season bro.
@@Hawaiian_Cheesehead_85 I’m a Eagles fan. I like how Denver runs their organization
@@Hawaiian_Cheesehead_85 that is completely false smh
Shannon is like a kid in a candy store today now that he can finally talk about his broncos 😂
F yeah he is lol....Broncos all the way for him lol
The past 6 years were tuff for The Broncos and their fans…it’s nice to at least have a shot again now having Russ QB the team. The league is now the “haves & the have nots” in terms of having a top shelf QB. If you don’t have one of the best QBs, you can’t win.
I hope Seattle can find a QB with our picks.
Not sure why he so excited ?
Still got the Chiefs in their Div whom Den has dropped 13 straight games to!
No one in today's NFL drops double-digit gms in a row to a Div rival..lol if they do than its more than just Quarterback play that's an issue!
Wilson? All he's gonna do at best is have Broncos in the hunt for one of final AFC Wildcard spots come December 2022
@@markmansfieldsbwc4674 Chiefs won with Steve DeBerg/Trent Green/Alex Smith
@@bellahoughton84 I ment win a SuperBowl. With the rules being tilted in favor of the offenses now, you don’t see Super Bowls won with great defense and average QB play anymore..they are almost all won with teams with superstar QB’s like Brady, Mahomes, Manning, ect..
Let's be real, Shannon is loving this trade to his beloved team.
He wishes he still was...
im not denver broncos fan but low key im excited to see how this play out cuz im big russ wilson fan been liking him in his college days
Broncos need to focus only on the oline at this point, it's the most important part of the offense easily
Yes, the dline as well to be able to run the ball and stop the run...OG
Please give him a good oline. Russell is magic when he has time. 90% of the time he was running for his life w/ us.
We really only need a solid right tackle and we’ll be good
Absolutely.
They could draft Abraham Lucas in the second round and be fine. Right tackle is the only glaring hole on the o-line
Its going to be weird seeing Wilson in a Broncos jersey but I'm excited to see how he does.
His Bad 🤣😂🤣
@@AH-tq1tj really bad
It’s been very exciting for me!!! Go Hawks!!
He did awful
This aged well 😂😂😂😂
russel wilson let's hide
Ik Shannon happy he finally get to talk about his squad
0:50 “The high 20s or 32” Nope let’s try a top 3 pick.
It's been down hill for us ever since Brock Osweiler took over! FINALLY!!! This is who I wanted since he came out of Wisconsin and I'm glad we finally got him better late then never. Younger then Manning at least
Bring back Brock!!
😂😂😂
"We have no future if we can't do anything in the present" 15:05 I felt that... Gem 💎.
Powerful quote 🙌
I also like Skip at 17:55 - He is ready to lift up! I believe that - look out, world, the Broncos are back!!!
Lmao! I love trolling these old videos hahahaha sincerely a HAWKS FAN!
@@NTiVE-tq7tjright I bet he feels it foreal now 😂😂😂😂😂
As a Seahawks fan,the Broncos are very lucky to get Wilson,he plays with determination and they will probably be one the best stat producing teams in a single season ever.
I mean they did have Peyton whos offense broken multiple records but I get your point.
Seattle had more weapns last year than the Broncos have now, so I highly doubt this.
@@battlefrontbeast97 yea and Russ will have a better offensive line it seems like now,smh the league is bout to see some precise deep balls lol
@@royalblack93 Yep! Throwing exhibitions alone does not equate to a win!
@@Nate100 to be fair no one gets sacked more than wilson.
I'm glad the Broncos didn't have to give up Patrick Surtain or one of the receivers. 😮💨
They lucked out there! Fant is a promising player, but keeping guys like Jeudy, Sutton, Williams, Surtain, etc is huge!
I’m sure Denver protected as many receivers as possible when getting a new All-Pro caliber QB in town
@@jasonserkowski7194 we still have Albert O who is an excellent TE.🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@whatsyourpoint1facts942 non broncos fans sleeping on Albert O. Dude was good last year but with real QB play he's going to feast
Facts
Gonna be nuts seeing Wilson in orange playing against Seattle in Seattle. 🙀
Seattle is about to be spanked back into irrelevance
I hope he lights the sh*t out of Seattle. This will be like F8, when Dominic Toretto was forced to go rogue, and his team couldn’t stop him.
Russ is going to go off in that Seattle game because he needs to beat LAC and Seattle to become just the 5th and youngest QB in NFL history to beat every NFL team. If he doesn’t beat Seattle this time, he won’t get another chance for what, 4 years? Who knows if he will still be with Denver or playing at all?
This comment aged well
@@Cooz-h1l LOL !!!!!! BRONCOS COUNTRY LETS DIE
@@DeCurtaRican LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO. hawks up baby
That "Legion of Boom" with that team is officially over. Their time ended with that loss to the Pats in the SB and they never recovered.
they can use their draft picks to get another legion of boom. they have 4 1st and 2nd rounds
When will you guys let this nonsense go?
Pete Carroll needs to go before that can finally be erased.
@@siliziwencanywa1138 for real..people talk more about it than us Seahawk fans do.
Well Russ got paid. They had him on the cheap for the legion of boom era
This was the steal of the century all right 😂😂 skip is a genius
Broncos: 11 starting Quarterbacks since 2015-16 damn
Future head line in 2029
Seahawks have 11 starting qbs since 2022-23.
LOL.
Isn't that funny considering elway
@@AB-nv7bz Oops...
@@DeafeningCha You need more than half a season, but good for geno.
"I believe Aaron Rodgers wanted no part" exactly!! Rodgers was never going to Denver, I laughed when I heard people suggest that. He wants the easy path that the NFC North has given him his whole career. Russ has always had it tough so he's not scared.
Your comment is so true.
Russell Wilson is not that good of a quarterback today you will see. After next year and then the year after that come back and say yep you were right you called it.
@@user-bg1bk6pd6e u better come back and say I called it. I put only two guys ahead of him at this point in time.
@@user-bg1bk6pd6e Jaguars fan here.
Yes he is. 8 out of 10 playoffs, 2 SB appearances and 1 SB win. By saying what you said, I know that you don't know what it means to suffer.
When you find yourself praying for just one win, that's when you'll know what you had in Russell Wilson.
We Jags would've given him everything he asked for and more. We would've bought him an island off the coast of Jacksonville if he wanted it.
You don't know suffering, but you will.
Good luck
@@RAconsciousness can I have that island instead of Russ?
This just keeps aging better every week!
Shannon loves this trade for the Broncos. Nostradamus R.I.P.
When it takes a whole day to even know who the Seahawks really got, that's when you know🤣
Crazy how the hawks still won the trade.
@@hijofuego What a season it has been
Wow it’s been a long time coming, I was 15 the last time broncos were even talked about, especially in a hopeful way. Now I’m 22 and everybody has got sumn good to say again and giving us hope! This is what being a fan is about fr I love the journey dawg 🙏🏽
Pete Carroll owns ur franchise
A season of misery😂😂😂😂
@@gregorycampbell9386 aye bro cmon now 😂😂😂😂
@quinburner3362 It's all love bro lol. At least they were talked about lol.
Shay Shay always floors me with his oh so confident predictions. This aged like buttermilk in August. Yum.
"Eff dem picks!". Just gold.
Denver would tell where Jimmy Hoffa is to get em bk
Let's Ride!!
As a Seahawks fan I love this video
It was actually because of Pete's system and 40+ years of knowledge of the game, that he knew which were the best positions to put Russell into for him to have success. RW has the talent, but Pete knew that Russell struggled with the terminology, staring down reads, and it took a lot to work around Russell's weaknesses offensively when it came to play calling.
Denver can make some noise next season. I have family in Denver and they're happy about this trade!!
They should’ve listened to the hawks fans. he been getting worse and worse in a team that protected him
If you get an Elite QB, you win the trade regardless of what you give up.
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese 9 pro bowls and he did make second team all pro 2 years ago. He's elite
Wilson was not elite last year...
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese lol keep hating bro..
Watch some ball then get back to us
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese facts, you can’t be elite if you’ve never gotten a single mvp vote.
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese pro bowls are a popularity contest if you make it when you don't deserve it. In Russ situation he damn well deserved at least 6 of those and he made all pro. Great thing about Russ is his consistency. And Pete Carroll is just above average not good. If big Ben and Philip rivers is considered elite then Russ is also elite
I know this is a different situation than it was in 2010, but Pete Carroll and John Schnieder did this once before. They cleaned house and brought in talents that weren’t big names and turned that into two Super Bowl appearances and the greatest play in Super Bowl history. As far as I know only one other team was looking at Russell in the 2012 draft. Maybe it was the worst move Seattle could make and I definitely went out for a drink but I’m going to maintain some hope for Seattle that we’re just doing something that’s never been done
I wonder if Russell will continue the trend of elite QBs coming to Denver, at the end of their prime years, to win a Superbowl
Can't really say that, Colts didn't want Peyton... Also Peyton is a top 5 ever, Russ is nowhere near that caliber.
@@TONEakaSHOW you’re wrong, dude. Wilson is elite but didn’t get the opportunity at Seattle, especially during the past few years.
@@SiDung-qg7rn
Great thing about sports is, we will see.
@@TONEakaSHOW didn’t he have the most wins in the first 10 years of any QBs career? That is pretty good. He wins another super bowl or two and he’s in top 5
@@TONEakaSHOW He just passed peyton for most wins in first ten years I'm pretty sure.
Shannon just described the Broncos problem at the 10:50 mark : "No team in the last 5 years plays defense well enough to compensate for poor QB play. If you have an average QB, you can't win."
About time they discuss a new topic
This is like the Tom Brady signing 2 years ago and the Stanford trade last year
This is worse robbery than the tom brady trade (yes i know he won a superbowl, which is hard to beat). But Russell is 13 years younger than Brady and is in his prime.
@@tropicalterrarium1742 Tom brady wasn't a trade. Free agent signing. So getting TB for nothing is better than a prime Russ for a bunch of picks. Broncos still won the deal.
"Drew lock and 2 other players" lmao Drew lock is the worst of the 3 and only his name mentioned
It’s because he’s a QB
@@zacharylocke5512 😂😂
Man Skip is really good at his job. He always says what me and many are thinking when others do not.
Broncos will make the playoffs!!!!!
Facts!!!!!!!
@@EMPIRE-LLC 👍
i will say i think they will...but i think it could take a season or two to get acclimated to denver...even manning had to do so...but i DO think, with wilson, we Will make the playoffs and possibly within, 2 to 4 years, with him we can make another superbowl win
100%. They have a great D, and solid offensive players. Russ is so smart. He'll play the game manager role for 3 quarters and win it in the 4th.
You can't win with a great d and mediocre qb's anymore, but you can win with great d and mistake free qb play. I think 25tds and 6 ints will be good enough.
@@chris.w.hatred Ya that sounds right. It's just such a tough division now.
Here is a VERY unique take for this thread: This is not aging well.
It’s still crazy to me when he mentioned 88 and said “RIP” , long live DT !
As a Broncos fan I agree this is an amazing trade can't wait for Wilson finally a QB
Been a hawks fan since the 70’s. This trade is like skip said the steal of the century. Best QB seattles ever had and his status is seriously downplayed because a lot of people don’t like his personality. Too goody goody, teammates have supposedly said “not black enough”, praising God in interviews. You push all that aside and look at what he’s accomplished on the field. He’s gonna tear it up in the AFC west. Have fun
@@skeezix8156 facts bro sorry for your loss my condolences to your hawks
Making it seem like the Hawks got fleeced tho... they did not. "think" the Broncos got the better end of the deal. But it wasnt a steal lol
oops!
@@nugglife3035 😂
The team that received the elite franchise QB always wins the deal
Absolutely. Your one sentence states it perfectly.
So russ is elite?
@@tylertipke4885 Yes. Won a Superbowl, should’ve been 2 but that’s a different story. In the playoffs damn near every year and is very consistent. Plus, he basically single-handedly won most of their games the past few seasons because his defense was bad. You know what you’re getting from him when he is on the field.
@@vinestheviking84 yes and no. He has built a rapport with lockett in scramble drills and games and he can't see over the line to make a 5 yard slant. He isn't a traditional qb so you have to build the run/play action game with him
@@tylertipke4885 you’re wrong, dude. He could see over the line just fine. It was the game plan that held him back.
happy for unc. shay now he can really say MY TEAM when talking about an NFL team
I'm not just saying this because Russ has now gone to Denver but if I had to pick 3 teams to support the Broncos would be one of them. I wish Russ nothing but the best and even though he and Wagner have gone I will always be a Seahawks fan because I love them
I called it when it was happening. Russ did check out on Pete. He only rushed back from that injury to prove to other teams that he could play, and it worked.
Sigh
As a Browns fan I was hoping we'd make a move like this but alas we don't have the nuts for it like the Broncos
Don't think he agrees to be traded to the Brown anyway, so don't worry. He had a no trade clause.
Sorry but you are stuck with Mayfield.. Don’t worry though, Mayfield was the #1 overall pick and he says he is a great quarterback so you will be fine.. just ask him 😊
Well Seahawks are in the playoffs with the 5th pick in the coming draft. I think we all know who won this trade.
Almost 2 years to the day they cut him lmaooo
The AFC West gonna be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yikes
The funny thing is the Broncos hired the Packers old OC but wanted Russell Wilson instead of Aaron Rodgers
That should tell you something
Aaron Rodgers re-signed with the packers so they couldn’t go for him
@@williamwalker7822 there’s no way a deal of this magnitude took place in a few hours.
They didn’t want him instead. Rodgers chose to stay.
Rodgers told hackett he was staying in GB........he got the jump
Lmao 🤣 so funny when you look back lmao 🤣
I’m mad sad about Russel leaving, but as a Seahawks fan, there have been disappointments through the years. Next man up. 💚💙
SERENITY WAKE UP. THE SEAHAWKS WON THE TRADE.
Oh Shannon about to be going crazy for his Broncos now. On a side note AFC West next year it's gonna be a bloodbath when the worst QB is Carr you know it's crazy.
Carr average at best 👌
He above avg n took down herbet
@@iddykejo8173 got a point there 🙏🙏
@@1Scital1 Average at best? He makes some bad late game decisions, but certainly better than average. Please tell me the 15 qb's that are better. When half the qb's are trash, its hard to say average at best. I'm not a raiders fan or a carr fan, but thats such an idiotic statement.
The broncos will be a major topic on this show next season 👍
I love this move since it makes it harder for the Raiders
The Raiders are the LEAST of your problems in that division! They have been relegated to bottom feeders for 20 years!
@@dacryptkeeper6836
I know lol and 20 more to come!
8-9 season incoming for the Raiders.
It also makes it harder for Mahomes.
@@TrollinOn22s say it again sir 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Literally everything said in this video is insanely wrong (other than the Broncos having a good defense). Thanks for the laugh 😂
If russ says yes shannon finally gets to talk about his broncos regularly idk if fs1 will allow it though, also the turning point is when the decision was made not to give marshawn the ball, it will go down as one of the greatest what ifs and what would brady do, would the patriots still win? After all these years i still remember watching it i wonder how russ feels and marshawn, skip said essentially russ gave up last season and was injured lol
Skip was correct about it being the "steal of the century", but the other way around. To their credit, they were mostly right about the Broncos' defense, though.
They just literally ate their words! 🤣”Broncos got the Steal of the Century” 🤣😂🤣
It might be the steal of the century, just not for the Broncos. It might be the greatest robbery since Herschel Walker.
All the 12s came right back to this segment 😂 how u like them apples shannon
Surprise… these two are wrong again!!! Go Hawks! 😂
I really do question what’s going on in Seattle… this is a clear rebuild. I’m shocked they just gave up Bobby Wagner, and didn’t even try to get a suitor for him.
Making too much money. He was going to make like $20 million next year with a huge cap hit. He can probably get picked up by somebody, but that contract wasn't moveable.
Sleepless in Seattle...
They did give you on Wagner. They gave on the huge cap hit.
@@aroperdope 🤣🤣🤣
Word on the street is that they are clearing cap space to get Deshaun Watson.
I'm excited for Wilson! Finally, we'll get to see the real RW! I'm a Hawks fan, but a bigger Wilson fan. I think Carroll suppressed, and stunted Wilson as a QB. I'll be watching Wilson!
I'll be watching Pete Carroll's answer to Wilson's absence. No one to bail out Pete in the final minutes anymore... I think Pete may retire early, when it becomes obvious his successes were on the shoulders of Wilson. No Q B in that division? Good luck!
Russ had underrated talent surrounding him. Hes good enough to take a strong team far but he isnt even a shadow of what we thought he could be as that superbowl team slowly disappeared. Honestly when was the last magical season with Russ...14-15
@@dallasbishop6519 My goodness with the pathetic offensive line, and no consistent running game. With the worst defense in the N F L? With a coach that's still thinking 50's football.... He was never allowed to open up his game. Still probably the most accurate long ball thrower in the N F L....
@@keithsparling5537 what about the let russ cook era? 7 games of great football then got figured out.
@@keithsparling5537 you got everything wrong. Do you even remember what I’m talking about the let Russ cook era?
@@keithsparling5537 The grass is not always greener on the other side. If it is, it could be because that's where the dogs are shitting. Seattle treats it's players very well
(Wagner notwithstanding). Ask any vet who came there from somewhere successful.
What Skip said starting at 5:00 is REAL it is ABSOLUTELY a QB & offensive game nowadays!! The rules have changed so much that an elite defense is just not as good as a elite offense & personally it kinda sucks for me because I LOVED the hard hitting smash mouth football but it is what it is now it's a scoring league!!
I'm with Skip here. Denver is gonna be scary. There's no "what if". They will be scary.
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lmfaooooooooo scary bad. the dumbest people are always the most confident in their assertions
Now the “what if” is “what if Denver cant turn it around” LMFAOOOO
Scary?😂😂😂😂😂
When Russ was in college he was my favorite player hands down straight 🔥
👑4 KING 👑
1 Mahomes
2 Herbert
3 Wilson
4 Carr
That’s my order too.
Good lord I almost love Undisputed more then NFL lol. I listen to Skip and Shannon every single day. These guys are the absolute BEST in the sports talk show realm. Love this stuff. Love these 2 hosts. Best show on TV. Period. Sportscenter is great too. But I take Undisputed all day long!!!!
Lock will get a chance to compete, but it is simply not in Seattle's nature when they are addressing a position to just have one guy. My guess is either they flip the capital for a veteran QB, maybe even Watson, or they use the picks to build the team and use Lock as a passible bridge or they draft a QB in the second round they think can do the job. Lock will get his chance to compete, but you should not be looking at this as we traded Russell Wilson for Drew Lock, that is not at all what happened.
I can see them trading a couple of those picks and maybe lock to the texans for Watson or trading for Jimmy g from the niners.
lol no you traded for Drew Lock that’s what happened lol 😂 he’s starting guaranteed lol
I wish Russell Wilson nothing but the best. I am a Hawks fan through and through. However, I am a Russell Wilson as well and I will be getting a Russell Wilson Broncos jersey. Yep! I said it and I'm keeping his Seahawks jersey too.
Only thing they got right was Broncos defense is good
I love watching this in November '22. Fast forward to the 6:08 mark LOL! Nice call Skip!
As a Denver native I’m happy my team is making big plays this off season. Looking 2 be good year 💪🏿
hawks up baby
In terms of aging this is the chef's kiss.
We easily won this, if we can protect Wilson, then we are an automatic threat. He’s 33 and I see him having his fire reignited with our young receivers
Obviously the broncos won, by a lot, not even close. Y'all took advantage of a retirement home caliber HC.
@@mokaPCP I mean I don’t miss the goose egg russ put up against greenbay so I mean if he wanted out whatever we can ride with geno for one year and find out what we can do the year after
@@mokaPCP Lol
I'm watching this and all I could think about is "Russ burned the whole damn meal" "let russ cook, we are going to starve" " broncos country, let's hide!" LMFAO
Easily the Denver Broncos won this trade. They get Russell Wilson, a known commodity, and an elite NFL quarterback. The Seahawks are getting draft picks and a few nice players, but if they repeat their history of whiffing on draft picks, the best thing they may receive from this might be Noah Fant who is a pretty good, not great yet, at this point, tight end. And don’t they already have Gerald Everett on their roster? Who might objectively be a better player at this point.
Everett is a Free Agent. They'll likely let him walk now.
Seattle has had plenty of draft success. We call what my Eagles do on draft day as whiffing 🤣🤣
Seahawks aren’t winning another SB. They’ll won’t land a great QB. It is evident the Broncos are legit contenders now. The line in Denver will have Wilson throwing dime passes.
DK is like the only good pick they’ve had in 5 years lmao
He’s not elite,he’s Dak with a ring
Good call by Rus not going to Philly. East coast media and fans would have shredded him. He has had a safe space in Seattle.
F them picks 🤣 best analyst show on TV 😂
This is a prime example of the all the experts do really know. Love skip and Shannon just funny how this is how it should be but it up to fate.
Look Seahawks didn't have a great draft since Russell and Bobby was drafted. Denver won this trade
DK Metcalf in 2019 would like a word.
@@bryantworthing2215 better yet the 2022 NFL draft would like a word
Hmmm the future didn’t take to kindly to this comment lmao
@@ingramalwaysstoned I guess you're right sir
Skip probably thought the Vikings fleeced the Cowboys in 1989 with the Herschel Walker trade. Pete Carroll and John Schneider should be charged with robbery. Unless Russ makes the greatest career comeback ever, this deal sets the Broncos back for years.
I realize these shows are about having strong opinions to get a reaction, but there is no way to know who won this trade before we see how good the Broncos are with Wilson and how well the Seahawks use the draft picks and players to rebuild. And maybe there is no winner. It could end up being a win-win for both teams.
Only good comment from 9 months ago :) But there is always a loser.
This comment aged amazingly well. Kudos to you I’d have never had your mindset at this point in time
Wanted all day yesterday to see this today
The Seahawks needed the picks and cap space. Hate to lose #3 but he wanted out and we needed the picks.
I came back to this. November 23 2022
"F them picks." It's a copycat league. I had a feeling other teams would implement the Rams' strategy of chasing a title.
if it looked like it worked, then why not...aint no secret...everyone will do what it takes to win...cant shame Denver in doing so...just wouldnt wanna be a seahawks fan right now lol...i think id be scared to wear a denver jersey in washington lol
Sound nervous bruh??
This looks like a combination of Rams and Brady to Buccs to me
To be fair, Denver was willing to do it last year too with Aaron. So they weren't exactly copying the Rams, this has always been the play since Paton came in.
??? Broncos did this with Elway and Manning getting a QB to chase a championship 😂 so rams already had a blueprint to follow from Denver 👍🏻😌
Shannon Sharpe is a Mood 😁😁😎😎
10 months later and the Seahawks are in the playoffs and broncos couldn’t even get to .500
Shanon sharpe watched “the pivot” nice
Expert analysis, guys.
Skip & Shay is the #1 NFL talk show. Period.
Let Russ age poorly in Denver. First week of December and Broncos have clinched a losing season. Seahawks have seven wins, which I am guessing is two more wins than the most optimistic expert forecast for them to win this season.
I live literally 2 blocks from the Broncos Stadium .... Ahh Can't wait for Broncos games again!