We sure need a new video about shoe drops. This subject is so controversial and complicated and I will be happy to hear your updated opinion!(already saw your old vid)
Something everyone forgets regarding drop: It's useless to compare a hard midsole 10 mm drop to a soft midsole 10 mm drop. It's LOADED DROP that matters! A soft shoe, when you stand on it might be closer to a 5 mm actual drop. There is a huuuuge difference between for example my Peg 37s (soft 10mm drop) and my NB 1400v6 (hard 10mm drop).
@@QronoZ713 But if the midsole has the same foam density from heel to toes, isn't it supposed to stay in the same proportion when applying pressure on it? or maybe the pressure in the heel section is greater? But I don't heel strike so I doubt that there's more pressure in my heel than in my forefoot...
@@rhoynarr Really good point, keen observation. I'm not a biomechanist, or pediatritian, but I've heard it from one. And from what I can recall, it's that the pressure is greater in the heel area. If you're standing upright, with a high drop, you'll inevitably put more pressure on the heel to sort of level off your stance.
I will start with the fact that I don’t have different shoes for: racing, tempo days, easy days, daily trainers etc. With that being said, if I can get even remotely close to 700 miles out of a shoe, I will gladly pay $160! I second the call for a video on shoe drops! Thanks for another great vlog Seth!
QD: Novablast is definitely my favourite Asics as it was shoe choice for my first sub4 marathon. Didn't lose my toenails as enough room just one blister for each first toe which didn't take time to heal up ☺️
I understand about the price point but if I can spend $160 for 700 miles that’s better than buying two shoes at $110 that only would last 350 - 400 miles
Chris Thomason kinda debatable depending on the type of runner you are. There are just so many daily trainer options for so much less. Asics just usually overcharges for their high end stability shoes
I mostly agree with you, but long lasting shoes are also a curse for those of us who get bored of running in the same darn thing. There are shoes I want to retire but they keep on ticking :/
better not to trust anything anyone says about durability. It doesn't matter how the outsole or upper looks if the midsole is dead. For example there were pieces flying from the Hoka Clifton 6 outsole after 600k but the shoe was comfortable until 1000k and I could have continued to wear it, whereas the Nike Vomero 14 looked brand new after 500 mls, there was no wear or tear anywhere but the shoe felt dead already after 700k and I hated running in it from 700-800k and retired the shoe once it reached the 500 mls mark. I could see the difference very well because I had another, new Vomero pair to compare it to. I think that the biggest misconception about running shoes is the question how long a shoe pair lasts. Many people are measuring wrong factors. Many shoes that Seth for example is saying having a low quality, are perfectly fine after 500 or 600 mls and if you want to you can get 600 or 700 mls out of basically any pair but at the end the comfort level might be a problem. It doesn't matter if the shoe becomes slower and loses the springiness or responsiveness because one can wear a slow shoe for recovery runs but if the midsole becomes completely lifeless or hard like a brick then that pair of running shoe is not enjoyable anymore unless you run on a very soft and bouncy surface.
@@GoSlowToGoFastOG My Clifton 6 felt so “dead” after it past the 400k mark. Outsole looked ok, upper looked very good too. The shoes felt comfortable walking, but not running.
Hi @sethdemoor Just a thought to share on your latest Asics review: I think it incorrect or contradictory when you say that a shoe can go 700 miles but then criticise the cost. If a shoe can maybe last 700 miles, that's a lot of miles for a regular runner and a that's a shoe that will last a few years, a higher prices shows great value. It may even encourage people to reduce their throw away culture.
Lee - This is a great comment, and I concur. 700 miles is a lot! I've worn $120-$130 shoes that made it to half that. Also, your point about the throwaway culture is right on. Here, they're selling a shoe that will last longer AND is made from recyclable materials.
Very much agree. A pair of Atreyu, for 70 bucks that'll last 200 miles is a horrbile price per km!! Meanwhile a Nike Infinity Run might last 700+ miles, and cost 150 bucks is a much better deal!
for 20 plus years I've used the Asics Gel DC Trainer! It is my favorite shoe of all time, I use it for a daily trainer, initially/currently sells as a racer, but I use it for training.
How do you like the 24/25? I think these are too stiff. Although after 500 miles now, I am liking them more and more. The DS Trainer 9 and 22 are my all time favorite shoes.
@@rolandvaneijk I'm glad to see this comment. I too am disappointed to how stiff the DS Trainer 25 is and only use it for daily runs now and then now after my last speed work went bust. But I'm happy to hear they get better. haha. I need to put 300 more miles in them. :)
@@ptlewis2000 Bought the 26 on sale (€71) couple of weeks ago. Same midsole still, but these are lighter because of an even better upper with a gusseted tongue also. Don’t know why, but kind of like them.. Still a stiff midsole that is quite hard also. I use them a lot on the trails, so less of an issue on that surface.
I'm discovering the GlideRide this year, liking it so far. Very interesting and unsual ride for sure! By the way, I remember you mentioned you had a call with some people from Asics a few weeks ago and were exited about what's coming. I can't wait to learn more!
Haha, that's awesome! I have the GlideRide as well, but I have yet use em. It's been sitting in its box for over 3 months now. 😅😂 Can't wait to take em for a ride tho!
Hi Seth, I do believe you should rethink your scoring criteria’s according to the « category/objective » of the shoe, if a shoe is not meant for racing (a daily trainer for instance), it is quite normal that it is heavier than a racing shoe, and therefor it should score better than other daily trainers (not put it against light racing shoes), I’m not talking about this review in particular but i think you should not compare apples & oranges but compare a shoe to a standard of that category, if this makes any sense !
QD: TartherEdge! it's so light and responsive. It has the classic look as well! I wonder if there is so few reviews on this pair of shoes. Perhaps, you can do a review on Asics TartherEdge if you can find one there. This year, they are coming out with Asics Tartheredge 2. TQ.
QD: Love the Novablast too! Loads of fun to run in. The Nimbus 22 is also a solid daily trainer - my favourite to run in though, is a 2019 shoe - still reaching for the Glideride for long runs.
QD: I only ever ran in the Gel-Kayano 19 (yes, I have been using them up to this year). Great shoe for those who need that amount of stability. I'm just at a point where I want more out of my running shoe, so I'm moving on. Personally, I think the Kayanos especially are for runners that only want one shoe to run comfortably and safely for a couple of years. It kind of gets a bad rep and the price is pretty steep but they really go the distance.
Qd: Love the Glideride. Picked it up for $100. And has been a long run pace dropper since I pulled it out of the box. Everytime I run in them I seem to shave off 3-5 seconds per mile. So they are definitely my Asics shoe of the year.
QD: I tried the Novablast on a couple days ago as a potential replacement when my Ride 13s die. The roads here in Tucson, AZ chewed up the outsole rubber FAST, so I'm looking for something durable. My impression was HIGH build quality but the outsole rubber is on the thin side(though I think it's AHAR as well). These Kayano look to be the better choice for rugged roads. Even though the price is high, they could potentially double the life of the Novablast, based on outsole rubber alone. Plus there's no weird shelf on the heel. Some considerations to be made. Thanks, Seth.
QD: Gel-Venture 7, great value at around $60 and very good for a commuter shoe or a shoe you want to wear out and about on a day you also plan to do some light trail running and don’t want to bring a separate pair of shoes. It also comes in 2E and 4E widths so you can really dial in the fit.
I have been using a lot my Asics Gel-Nimbus 22. I tried to run more with my Asics Nova Blast but since I'm still not fully recovered from an injury in my left foot ,I feel better running with a shoe with more stability and less vibration from impact . Once my left foot is 100% healed and strong I will do back to "tame" the instability of my Nova Blast that is an amazing comfortable and helps me run faster then a Nimbus. That's for sure !
I've run in the ASICS gel-nimbus 21 for 2 years now and I love them. They are great for everything if you just want a durable shoe that can do tempos, long, short, easy, etc and don't want to spend a ton of money.
QD: Dynaflyte 4. A lot of the guys in the team use them as trainers for the metaracers. I tried them out and they’ve been my perfect trainer. Would love to see you try them out! Make ASICS great again! Haha
As a heavy runner with large feet that firmness is a blessing, the Novablast had my ankles rocking and rolling and I don't trust Hokas reputation for durability.
QD: Novablast here. Got one pair up around 360 miles. Use them for long runs, easy, Tempo and I've even raced a half marathon in them. Honourable mention to the metaracer but I've only worn it twice. Once for a mile PB and once for a 5k PB...
I just hit a new pb doing a 9 minute mile pace. (5.65m/km pace everybody around the world) "On days when I want to baby my foot, on a 9 minute pace" now I feel like a fast sloth :D
I always buy last year's Cumulus model and they are generally around $70 by the 2nd year. I paid $69 last year for Cumulus 20 and $75 for Cumulus 21 this year. The built quality of Asics is just great and I am sure they can go at least 600 miles. Paying $70 for 600+ miles of running on a daily trainer is pretty good IMO.
QD: easily the evoride, I took it well over 400 miles held up marvelously, it’s light, it’s durable, and just a fun shoe to run in. Also 110 dollars, so great price point for what you’re getting.
Think they have a sound like swimming flippers... Yes do something about drops !!! For many years I have used shoes with high drops. Mostly Asics... As I grew older, my achilles tendons began to hurt and hurt and hurt more. After many years I stumpled acros a man that actually knew what to do. Part of that was accepting that my achilles tendons will require constant special attention and training for the rest of my life. Another thing was to loose high drop shoes ! So I gradually startet to use shoes with 0 to max 5 mm drop (I have one pair with 6mm drop...), and alternating frequently between them and stay away from concrete and asphalt as much as possible. Its been a two year proces so far and I still feel improvements. From hardly being able to walk to doing 50K+ ultraruns almost without negative sideeffects ! The high drop weakens you and ruins natural posture and gait. As you grow older it leaves a negative effect. There is a reason we where not created with high drop feet !!!
Would LOVE to see a vlog on the 'drop' situation..I have always run in 8-10mm drop shoes, really want to try Hoka shoes around the 5mm mark but am worried...thank you to you and your incredible channel, I watch every single day and look forward to it..has kept my running training consistent and motivation high! THANK YOU 🙌🙌🙌
Hi Seth, am new to the channel but loving the content so far. Am curious to see if you will complete the full review of the Asics Gel Kayano Lite as I've recently purchased a pair and would like to see if my impressions on it are the same as yours. Keep it up!
For me Kayanos have never been running shoes. They are for joggers who go to a sporting goods store every spring and want a shoe for everything (jogging, walking with the wife, taking kids to a park, going to a supermarket). Salesmen have told me many times that Kayano customers come back every single year and never even think about purchasing anything else.
QD: It's been several years since I wore ASICS. It seems like they have improved a lot in recent years, so might have to give them another try when I need a new pair.
I mostly valuate my shoes based on the $/mile basis. So if 700 mile prediction is correct, that comes to 0.23 cents per mile - anything in the 20s is pretty good. If one can get a club discount or be one of those runners that can get 1000 miles out of a shoe, then it would certainly be well worth the $160.
QD: Evoride. I did a lot of long run training ( 50 + km). they died after 1000 km, holes in the upper... and less cushion.... I really enjoyed running with them
QD: Interesting that we're talking about another Asics "Lite" shoe today. My favorite Asics (and it barely beat out the Novablast) is the Nimbus Lite. I was surprised that the Kayano Lite didn't debut along with that shoe. The Nimbus Lite is my easy day shoe and it works well for that purpose. Same drop as the KL, but the stack height is 5mm higher. Comparing my efforts at the durometer test to this video, the midsole seems a lot softer. My beef with both shoes is the same. These shouldn't be the "Lite" versions--they should be the regular versions of their respective lines. Even though the Nimbus Lite is a bit lighter, it's still not a light shoe by any means. From the video, it appears they screwed up in the same place on both shoes--the heel counter. I don't understand why it's so stout on the lighter version of the shoe. Certainly, those could've been reduced to make the sure lighter, and although I like the plushness, it doesn't have to be THAT plush. Hey, Asics -next year, make these the regular versions and truly come out with an 8-8.5 ounce lite version of both shoes. Yes, I just knocked my favorite Asics shoe of the year, but I still love them. I just wish they were what they should have been.
My favourite shoes for 2020 was definitely adizero Adios 8 (never tried the boston or the pro ones) Since I got them already beat my PR for 10 and HM . Not yet tried asics Novablast but love too gt2000 and normal kayano shoes for recovering days.
Qd: Has to be the Glideride, i always have to hold back when i use them for a long run otherwise i just won't be able to keep up with them. Novablast i'm only starting to appreciate now after about 175 miles. No issues with the heel counter though contrary to the laces that bit in my feet and i had to replace. Will probably not buy Novablast again.
Hi Seth, I've been running in ASICS Gel Keyano's since the 16...I update every 500+ miles....and since my recent GK 26 are both around 400+ I opted for the GK Lites... I don't think it can replace the GK26's..the stability of this shoe is legendary and Lite is not quite as stable. I don't have the 27's YET!
Maybe use the Lite for faster long runs. Just saw an engineer say Lite is more performance oriented. Thinking about dumping the super shoe + Insole and use the Lite for my next marathon since my faster girlfriend uses her for tempo work with NO INSOLE! Anyway, just a thought.
Yes please for a heel to toe drop vlog, I'm about to retire a pair of Brook Ghosts for New Balance Beacon V2. Running a while in both and feel like my body just cant do the Ghosts anymore due to the drop
15 years ago, I had flat feet, I was over-weight, and needed strong stability shoes. I got into minimal shoes (for walking), lost weight, and relearned to run. Now, I have repaired my arches and form so I don't need overbuilt running shoes like these.
Went out on a run for the first time in the Kayano Lite today -- so painful that i had to turn back and walk. The right side of the right shoe was bruising my lower ankle so badly and no matter how many times i stopped to adjust the laces, socks, positioning of my foot, nothing could ease the pain. Got back to the house, swapped shoes (asics glideride), and went back out -- zero pain. I wanted to like the Kayano Lite but it's not happening. these are getting returned.
QD: The Novablast is my nr. 1 favoride. I love that shoe because it makes daily runs faster with little effort. Just amazing cushioning. However, I also enjoy running in the Evoride. It's great for uptempos for example or any run where I want to pick-up the pace a little bit. Metaracer is of course nice too. I would have used it but the injury screwed up things with racing shoes. Others I don't like. For example the Dynablast is kind of a terrible shoe. Looks bad because the upper is uglier than a grandma's coach, has a too high drop, doesn't provide the trampoline effect that the Novablast has and isn't fast feeling like the Evoride is. I think that one is for joggers or walkers. Nimbus, Kayano, Cumulus, GT, DS-Trainer etc., aka the traditional Asics models I haven't bothered to test because they are just not modern enough and the newer Nimbus Lite didn't arrive here at all.
Terrific shoe. As a trainer or a mathaton shoe. We DO NOT need "high stack ehight and max cush". Going that route you sacrifice stability and nimbleness. And having more comfort inside the shoe prevents rubbing of the foot...something no one wants during any run....training or marathon. WIch is what happens the thinner the material used for the uppger e.g. mesh/see-through. I think companies are just getting lazy and greedy when choosing what kind of material to use for the upper. You can still get ""enough breathabilty" using "knit based" material. Just takes more time/money developing/testing/manuf.... Hmmm....a single layer of THIN mesh vs a 2 or 3 layer knit WITH "enough" breathability...hmmm... THis shoe is on my short-list... "flats baby!1" :)
Looking forward to getting hold of and reviewing this shoe once it's released here in the UK (why do Asics release their shoes so much later in the UK?). Interesting what you said about the AHAR on the mid foot area. I think they have done the same thing on the Kayano 27, making the mid foot rubber softer than at the rear/heel area. If so I very much doubt I'll get 700 miles out of the shoe. The AHAR on the mid foot area of the Kayano 27 is wearing excessively after on 200 miles! Do like the idea that Asics have completely re-engineered this stability shoe and agree, the price is too high. Can't help thinking that the Asics marketing department is using the Kayano name (on what is a competely different shoe) to hike the price.
I wear regular Kayano 27s, switched from Peg, overpronation, low arches and inner side knee tendonitis. At first, everything bothered me, clunkers, stiff, but my knees and joints were relieved. Having ran a couple of months now I tried Pegasus again, it felt like a sock in front and my leg was literally vibrating from hitting the ground. Went back to Kayanos, and they felt much faster. I am looking for a race day stability shoe, but also something to keep me injury free. These K lite looked the part, shaving off regular Kayanos 300+grams is easy, but now I'm wondering if there is something even better out there?
Would love to hear your take on drop! In my current shoe lineup I run in everything from Altra (0 mm drop) to New Balance (8 mm) to vary my foot strike/gait and keep my stabilizing muscles thinking
I wear the GT-2000. Better price point with the stability needed. Glad to see this review though because I was wondering about the cost/ benefit of getting the Gel Kayano.
I had the kayano 26 and ran with it loads.. almost 1800km with no real problem. I just bought the GT-2000 because I can't spend so much atm. I am happy with both but the Kayano are a little wider, so a little comfier I'd say. If I could I'd have a pair of each to rotate. But I would definitely say that the Kayano are worth the money.
I was sadly disappointed in this shoe. I ran in them a few weeks ago but returned them. I found the midsole waaay too stiff for my legs. Love the stability and the weight for a stability shoe, but that’s about all I ended up liking. :(
be sure to test the new nike zoom structure 23. similar concept to the kayano lite, no post or whatsoever. its very different from the old structures. please test it out. nike compared it with the infinity react flyknit and thrash that shoe. im curious to know ur opinion
Even though it may technically be a 2019 shoe, still loving the gliderides. Believe mine are at 375 miles and still feeling great. Not quite the same forefoot cushion roll feel but still plenty for the longer runs. Excited to see how asics updates this model. Hopefully we will hear something in the next few months
I’ve ran a lot in the Fujitrabuco Pro this year, and also the Fujitrabuco 8 and Gel Venture 7 (entry level stable trail shoe). The Fujitrabuco Pro is excellent, great grip in all trail conditions I’ve encountered and nimble on technical trails. I’m an ASICS fan but not slavishly devoted.
QD I have not tried out any different running shoes for the last 2 years since getting the GT-2000s since i need massive support when i run but i would like to try out some sort of different running shoe soon... but the GT-2000s is where im at now
Hey Seth, do you think the look of a shoe can affect your choice of shoe. Sometimes wearing a nice looking shoe gives me more confidence even if its not as good as an uglier shoe.
Seth: Your merch! I want to buy a vest (tank top) for training/races. Are they technical running vests, ie: moisture wicking, quick dry polyester? Cotton obviously is a no go.....
Seth - I have a question about the personal message perk. What is the mechanism by which we request a message? Also, maybe a FAQ for the perks in all categories? Some are obvious, but some maybe could use some hashing out for folks. All the best, Gregg
Hey Seth, quick question. I’m a high school athlete trying to make states for XC and Track. I currently train in the Brooks Hyperion Tempo. Do you think it would be better for someone like me to run in 2 different shoes or just one? Thanks, keep up the food work!
Those asics ‚lite‘ shoes can be incredibly hard to find online, since there is also a ‚lite show‘ (high reflectivity) version of many models. Ugh. Who does asics‘ marketing?
I think you should try to interview shoe engineers for the channel. I would definitely enjoy watching that
We sure need a new video about shoe drops. This subject is so controversial and complicated and I will be happy to hear your updated opinion!(already saw your old vid)
Something everyone forgets regarding drop: It's useless to compare a hard midsole 10 mm drop to a soft midsole 10 mm drop. It's LOADED DROP that matters!
A soft shoe, when you stand on it might be closer to a 5 mm actual drop.
There is a huuuuge difference between for example my Peg 37s (soft 10mm drop) and my NB 1400v6 (hard 10mm drop).
@@QronoZ713 But if the midsole has the same foam density from heel to toes, isn't it supposed to stay in the same proportion when applying pressure on it? or maybe the pressure in the heel section is greater?
But I don't heel strike so I doubt that there's more pressure in my heel than in my forefoot...
@@rhoynarr You bring up a good point regarding what Blixten said. Id like to hear his reply to your comment
@@rhoynarr Really good point, keen observation. I'm not a biomechanist, or pediatritian, but I've heard it from one. And from what I can recall, it's that the pressure is greater in the heel area. If you're standing upright, with a high drop, you'll inevitably put more pressure on the heel to sort of level off your stance.
But also, just try it for yourself and you'll notice a big difference.
I will start with the fact that I don’t have different shoes for: racing, tempo days, easy days, daily trainers etc. With that being said, if I can get even remotely close to 700 miles out of a shoe, I will gladly pay $160! I second the call for a video on shoe drops! Thanks for another great vlog Seth!
QD: Novablast is definitely my favourite Asics as it was shoe choice for my first sub4 marathon. Didn't lose my toenails as enough room just one blister for each first toe which didn't take time to heal up ☺️
I understand about the price point but if I can spend $160 for 700 miles that’s better than buying two shoes at $110 that only would last 350 - 400 miles
Chris Thomason kinda debatable depending on the type of runner you are. There are just so many daily trainer options for so much less. Asics just usually overcharges for their high end stability shoes
I mostly agree with you, but long lasting shoes are also a curse for those of us who get bored of running in the same darn thing. There are shoes I want to retire but they keep on ticking :/
better not to trust anything anyone says about durability. It doesn't matter how the outsole or upper looks if the midsole is dead. For example there were pieces flying from the Hoka Clifton 6 outsole after 600k but the shoe was comfortable until 1000k and I could have continued to wear it, whereas the Nike Vomero 14 looked brand new after 500 mls, there was no wear or tear anywhere but the shoe felt dead already after 700k and I hated running in it from 700-800k and retired the shoe once it reached the 500 mls mark. I could see the difference very well because I had another, new Vomero pair to compare it to. I think that the biggest misconception about running shoes is the question how long a shoe pair lasts. Many people are measuring wrong factors. Many shoes that Seth for example is saying having a low quality, are perfectly fine after 500 or 600 mls and if you want to you can get 600 or 700 mls out of basically any pair but at the end the comfort level might be a problem. It doesn't matter if the shoe becomes slower and loses the springiness or responsiveness because one can wear a slow shoe for recovery runs but if the midsole becomes completely lifeless or hard like a brick then that pair of running shoe is not enjoyable anymore unless you run on a very soft and bouncy surface.
@@baltsu you must weigh 120lbs soaking wet to be getting that kind of mileage from any shoe. Retiring my Clifton 6 once it gets to 300 miles.
@@GoSlowToGoFastOG My Clifton 6 felt so “dead” after it past the 400k mark. Outsole looked ok, upper looked very good too. The shoes felt comfortable walking, but not running.
One thing is for sure. Asics builds their shoes to go the distance. Hopefully the shoe will loosen up a bit as you get more miles in it.
Hi @sethdemoor
Just a thought to share on your latest Asics review:
I think it incorrect or contradictory when you say that a shoe can go 700 miles but then criticise the cost. If a shoe can maybe last 700 miles, that's a lot of miles for a regular runner and a that's a shoe that will last a few years, a higher prices shows great value. It may even encourage people to reduce their throw away culture.
Lee - This is a great comment, and I concur. 700 miles is a lot! I've worn $120-$130 shoes that made it to half that. Also, your point about the throwaway culture is right on. Here, they're selling a shoe that will last longer AND is made from recyclable materials.
Very much agree. A pair of Atreyu, for 70 bucks that'll last 200 miles is a horrbile price per km!! Meanwhile a Nike Infinity Run might last 700+ miles, and cost 150 bucks is a much better deal!
QD: Novablast, no doubt! Actually looking forward to (your review of) the Nimbus Lite 2 ... probably early 2021?
for 20 plus years I've used the Asics Gel DC Trainer! It is my favorite shoe of all time, I use it for a daily trainer, initially/currently sells as a racer, but I use it for training.
How do you like the 24/25? I think these are too stiff. Although after 500 miles now, I am liking them more and more. The DS Trainer 9 and 22 are my all time favorite shoes.
@@rolandvaneijk from 2002 to 2007 I was in heaven, hope someday they will go back to the old version.
@@rolandvaneijk I'm glad to see this comment. I too am disappointed to how stiff the DS Trainer 25 is and only use it for daily runs now and then now after my last speed work went bust. But I'm happy to hear they get better. haha. I need to put 300 more miles in them. :)
@@ptlewis2000 Bought the 26 on sale (€71) couple of weeks ago. Same midsole still, but these are lighter because of an even better upper with a gusseted tongue also. Don’t know why, but kind of like them.. Still a stiff midsole that is quite hard also. I use them a lot on the trails, so less of an issue on that surface.
I'm discovering the GlideRide this year, liking it so far. Very interesting and unsual ride for sure!
By the way, I remember you mentioned you had a call with some people from Asics a few weeks ago and were exited about what's coming. I can't wait to learn more!
Haha, that's awesome! I have the GlideRide as well, but I have yet use em. It's been sitting in its box for over 3 months now. 😅😂
Can't wait to take em for a ride tho!
Hi Seth, I do believe you should rethink your scoring criteria’s according to the « category/objective » of the shoe, if a shoe is not meant for racing (a daily trainer for instance), it is quite normal that it is heavier than a racing shoe, and therefor it should score better than other daily trainers (not put it against light racing shoes), I’m not talking about this review in particular but i think you should not compare apples & oranges but compare a shoe to a standard of that category, if this makes any sense !
QD: TartherEdge! it's so light and responsive. It has the classic look as well! I wonder if there is so few reviews on this pair of shoes. Perhaps, you can do a review on Asics TartherEdge if you can find one there. This year, they are coming out with Asics Tartheredge 2. TQ.
Was looking forward to your review of this. Got a pair a few weeks ago and think I’ve found my shoe.
QD: horses for courses, but for me... this one
Glideride of course. Just love the shoes.
Definitely the novablast also. Although I am pretty excited having tried the kayano lite on. Can't wait to take it for a spin.
QD: Love the Novablast too! Loads of fun to run in. The Nimbus 22 is also a solid daily trainer - my favourite to run in though, is a 2019 shoe - still reaching for the Glideride for long runs.
Actually trying to get a second pair of Gliderides.... on special in South Africa at the moment.
QD: I only ever ran in the Gel-Kayano 19 (yes, I have been using them up to this year). Great shoe for those who need that amount of stability. I'm just at a point where I want more out of my running shoe, so I'm moving on. Personally, I think the Kayanos especially are for runners that only want one shoe to run comfortably and safely for a couple of years. It kind of gets a bad rep and the price is pretty steep but they really go the distance.
Working my way (or rather my ankles) up to the Novablast though, wanna know what all the hype is about
Qd: Love the Glideride. Picked it up for $100. And has been a long run pace dropper since I pulled it out of the box. Everytime I run in them I seem to shave off 3-5 seconds per mile. So they are definitely my Asics shoe of the year.
QD: I tried the Novablast on a couple days ago as a potential replacement when my Ride 13s die. The roads here in Tucson, AZ chewed up the outsole rubber FAST, so I'm looking for something durable. My impression was HIGH build quality but the outsole rubber is on the thin side(though I think it's AHAR as well). These Kayano look to be the better choice for rugged roads. Even though the price is high, they could potentially double the life of the Novablast, based on outsole rubber alone. Plus there's no weird shelf on the heel. Some considerations to be made. Thanks, Seth.
QD: Gel-Venture 7, great value at around $60 and very good for a commuter shoe or a shoe you want to wear out and about on a day you also plan to do some light trail running and don’t want to bring a separate pair of shoes. It also comes in 2E and 4E widths so you can really dial in the fit.
Epic price 💵
I have been using a lot my Asics Gel-Nimbus 22. I tried to run more with my Asics Nova Blast but since I'm still not fully recovered from an injury in my left foot ,I feel better running with a shoe with more stability and less vibration from impact . Once my left foot is 100% healed and strong I will do back to "tame" the instability of my Nova Blast that is an amazing comfortable and helps me run faster then a Nimbus. That's for sure !
I've run in the ASICS gel-nimbus 21 for 2 years now and I love them. They are great for everything if you just want a durable shoe that can do tempos, long, short, easy, etc and don't want to spend a ton of money.
Have not run in Asics since the days they were called TIGER! That being said, my favorite Asics shoe of the 80's....The Tiger Excalibur!!
wow! throwback.
Ran my best season of college cross country in1987 training in the original Gel Lytes! Loved that shoe!
QD: Dynaflyte 4. A lot of the guys in the team use them as trainers for the metaracers. I tried them out and they’ve been my perfect trainer. Would love to see you try them out! Make ASICS great again! Haha
As a heavy runner with large feet that firmness is a blessing, the Novablast had my ankles rocking and rolling and I don't trust Hokas reputation for durability.
Good to know, thanks for dropping your insights for us
QD: Novablast here. Got one pair up around 360 miles. Use them for long runs, easy, Tempo and I've even raced a half marathon in them.
Honourable mention to the metaracer but I've only worn it twice. Once for a mile PB and once for a 5k PB...
nice work on that PB!
I just hit a new pb doing a 9 minute mile pace. (5.65m/km pace everybody around the world)
"On days when I want to baby my foot, on a 9 minute pace"
now I feel like a fast sloth :D
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@@SethJamesDeMoor Also, yeah, my favourite show this year was the Novablast, that is I can't get my hands on the Endorphin Pro or Speed yet.
I always buy last year's Cumulus model and they are generally around $70 by the 2nd year. I paid $69 last year for Cumulus 20 and $75 for Cumulus 21 this year. The built quality of Asics is just great and I am sure they can go at least 600 miles. Paying $70 for 600+ miles of running on a daily trainer is pretty good IMO.
QD: the Novablast, but I find that it's not actually as versatile as I thought it would, it really likes to go fast with me
Sometimes Kayano takes a little time to 'dial' in. I got the Kayano 26 - and it took a little time to break in.
Glideride. Super comfortable
Agreed! Can't wait for the 2
QD: easily the evoride, I took it well over 400 miles held up marvelously, it’s light, it’s durable, and just a fun shoe to run in. Also 110 dollars, so great price point for what you’re getting.
YES VIDEO ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF DROPS!!!!! Love it.
Think they have a sound like swimming flippers...
Yes do something about drops !!!
For many years I have used shoes with high drops. Mostly Asics...
As I grew older, my achilles tendons began to hurt and hurt and hurt more.
After many years I stumpled acros a man that actually knew what to do.
Part of that was accepting that my achilles tendons will require constant special attention and training for the rest of my life.
Another thing was to loose high drop shoes !
So I gradually startet to use shoes with 0 to max 5 mm drop (I have one pair with 6mm drop...), and alternating frequently between them and stay away from concrete and asphalt as much as possible.
Its been a two year proces so far and I still feel improvements.
From hardly being able to walk to doing 50K+ ultraruns almost without negative sideeffects !
The high drop weakens you and ruins natural posture and gait.
As you grow older it leaves a negative effect.
There is a reason we where not created with high drop feet !!!
Great review Seth! I've tested this kayano lite and it gives the original kayano a real run for its money! Thanks for the video.
Would LOVE to see a vlog on the 'drop' situation..I have always run in 8-10mm drop shoes, really want to try Hoka shoes around the 5mm mark but am worried...thank you to you and your incredible channel, I watch every single day and look forward to it..has kept my running training consistent and motivation high! THANK YOU 🙌🙌🙌
Hi Seth, am new to the channel but loving the content so far. Am curious to see if you will complete the full review of the Asics Gel Kayano Lite as I've recently purchased a pair and would like to see if my impressions on it are the same as yours. Keep it up!
Can’t find these in the UK. Any idea when they are being released?
For me Kayanos have never been running shoes. They are for joggers who go to a sporting goods store every spring and want a shoe for everything (jogging, walking with the wife, taking kids to a park, going to a supermarket). Salesmen have told me many times that Kayano customers come back every single year and never even think about purchasing anything else.
Hey Seth😁! I looove watching your videos!! You have helped so much! Thank you for being awesome!
QD: It's been several years since I wore ASICS. It seems like they have improved a lot in recent years, so might have to give them another try when I need a new pair.
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QD: Novablasts. Just reached 500 miles in them and I still choose them over my other newer trainers on a daily basis. Just gotta love the squish
I mostly valuate my shoes based on the $/mile basis. So if 700 mile prediction is correct, that comes to 0.23 cents per mile - anything in the 20s is pretty good. If one can get a club discount or be one of those runners that can get 1000 miles out of a shoe, then it would certainly be well worth the $160.
QD: Evoride. I did a lot of long run training ( 50 + km). they died after 1000 km, holes in the upper... and less cushion.... I really enjoyed running with them
QD:
Interesting that we're talking about another Asics "Lite" shoe today. My favorite Asics (and it barely beat out the Novablast) is the Nimbus Lite. I was surprised that the Kayano Lite didn't debut along with that shoe. The Nimbus Lite is my easy day shoe and it works well for that purpose. Same drop as the KL, but the stack height is 5mm higher. Comparing my efforts at the durometer test to this video, the midsole seems a lot softer.
My beef with both shoes is the same. These shouldn't be the "Lite" versions--they should be the regular versions of their respective lines. Even though the Nimbus Lite is a bit lighter, it's still not a light shoe by any means. From the video, it appears they screwed up in the same place on both shoes--the heel counter. I don't understand why it's so stout on the lighter version of the shoe. Certainly, those could've been reduced to make the sure lighter, and although I like the plushness, it doesn't have to be THAT plush. Hey, Asics -next year, make these the regular versions and truly come out with an 8-8.5 ounce lite version of both shoes.
Yes, I just knocked my favorite Asics shoe of the year, but I still love them. I just wish they were what they should have been.
My favourite shoes for 2020 was definitely adizero Adios 8 (never tried the boston or the pro ones) Since I got them already beat my PR for 10 and HM . Not yet tried asics Novablast but love too gt2000 and normal kayano shoes for recovering days.
QD: Novablast is probably my favorite but still occasionally getting a run in the ole glideride
Qd: Has to be the Glideride, i always have to hold back when i use them for a long run otherwise i just won't be able to keep up with them. Novablast i'm only starting to appreciate now after about 175 miles. No issues with the heel counter though contrary to the laces that bit in my feet and i had to replace. Will probably not buy Novablast again.
NB 1080 :)
Hi Seth, I've been running in ASICS Gel Keyano's since the 16...I update every 500+ miles....and since my recent GK 26 are both around 400+ I opted for the GK Lites... I don't think it can replace the GK26's..the stability of this shoe is legendary and Lite is not quite as stable. I don't have the 27's YET!
Maybe use the Lite for faster long runs. Just saw an engineer say Lite is more performance oriented. Thinking about dumping the super shoe + Insole and use the Lite for my next marathon since my faster girlfriend uses her for tempo work with NO INSOLE! Anyway, just a thought.
Asics gt 1000 9. Quite light and amazing cushion under forefoot
Great review! I would love to see your update on the impact of heel to toe drop differences on gait cycle too😀
Yes please for a heel to toe drop vlog, I'm about to retire a pair of Brook Ghosts for New Balance Beacon V2. Running a while in both and feel like my body just cant do the Ghosts anymore due to the drop
QD: ASICS Novablast baby! Love that “trampoline” feel. 😄
Me too Irelis! Fun shoe.
Novablast is certainly my favorite Asics Running Shoes....
I use the kayano as my everyday/ walking shoe. I go to work in them and travel in them, but no running or training in them.
15 years ago, I had flat feet, I was over-weight, and needed strong stability shoes.
I got into minimal shoes (for walking), lost weight, and relearned to run.
Now, I have repaired my arches and form so I don't need overbuilt running shoes like these.
Waiting for shoe drop video!
Love the videos Seth! Bout to go for a 17 mile long run😄
I've yet to run in an Asics shoe! Maybe some day I'll give them a shot for a basic daily trainer.
One suggestion is to deliver your price point score in a way which considers the shoe's overall durability. For example, $ per km/mile?
QD: Team Novablast, what a fun shoe!
Went out on a run for the first time in the Kayano Lite today -- so painful that i had to turn back and walk. The right side of the right shoe was bruising my lower ankle so badly and no matter how many times i stopped to adjust the laces, socks, positioning of my foot, nothing could ease the pain. Got back to the house, swapped shoes (asics glideride), and went back out -- zero pain. I wanted to like the Kayano Lite but it's not happening. these are getting returned.
QD: my favorite asics shoe is the metaracer
QD: Novablast and Metaracer, both totally different but really good 👍
QD: The Novablast is my nr. 1 favoride. I love that shoe because it makes daily runs faster with little effort. Just amazing cushioning. However, I also enjoy running in the Evoride. It's great for uptempos for example or any run where I want to pick-up the pace a little bit. Metaracer is of course nice too. I would have used it but the injury screwed up things with racing shoes. Others I don't like. For example the Dynablast is kind of a terrible shoe. Looks bad because the upper is uglier than a grandma's coach, has a too high drop, doesn't provide the trampoline effect that the Novablast has and isn't fast feeling like the Evoride is. I think that one is for joggers or walkers. Nimbus, Kayano, Cumulus, GT, DS-Trainer etc., aka the traditional Asics models I haven't bothered to test because they are just not modern enough and the newer Nimbus Lite didn't arrive here at all.
Terrific shoe. As a trainer or a mathaton shoe. We DO NOT need "high stack ehight and max cush". Going that route you sacrifice stability and nimbleness. And having more comfort inside the shoe prevents rubbing of the foot...something no one wants during any run....training or marathon. WIch is what happens the thinner the material used for the uppger e.g. mesh/see-through.
I think companies are just getting lazy and greedy when choosing what kind of material to use for the upper. You can still get ""enough breathabilty" using "knit based" material. Just takes more time/money developing/testing/manuf.... Hmmm....a single layer of THIN mesh vs a 2 or 3 layer knit WITH "enough" breathability...hmmm...
THis shoe is on my short-list... "flats baby!1" :)
Glideride is still my number 1👍. Dynaflyte 4 the runner up.
i used to love asics i was using gel kayano for years until i switched to Nike vaporfly and alphafly
QD: realized i have not tried any Asics this year yet but looking out for the Novablast still!
QD: Personally not a fan of asics, but I am intrigued buy the novablast for an easy day shoe
How this one compares with gt 2000 9 ??? Both are stability shows and have similar weight .
Good morning everyone
Looking forward to getting hold of and reviewing this shoe once it's released here in the UK (why do Asics release their shoes so much later in the UK?). Interesting what you said about the AHAR on the mid foot area. I think they have done the same thing on the Kayano 27, making the mid foot rubber softer than at the rear/heel area. If so I very much doubt I'll get 700 miles out of the shoe. The AHAR on the mid foot area of the Kayano 27 is wearing excessively after on 200 miles! Do like the idea that Asics have completely re-engineered this stability shoe and agree, the price is too high. Can't help thinking that the Asics marketing department is using the Kayano name (on what is a competely different shoe) to hike the price.
I wear regular Kayano 27s, switched from Peg, overpronation, low arches and inner side knee tendonitis. At first, everything bothered me, clunkers, stiff, but my knees and joints were relieved. Having ran a couple of months now I tried Pegasus again, it felt like a sock in front and my leg was literally vibrating from hitting the ground. Went back to Kayanos, and they felt much faster. I am looking for a race day stability shoe, but also something to keep me injury free. These K lite looked the part, shaving off regular Kayanos 300+grams is easy, but now I'm wondering if there is something even better out there?
Did you find one? I'm also on Kayano 27 and wanted to find something more fun for tempo training.
Would love to hear your take on drop! In my current shoe lineup I run in everything from Altra (0 mm drop) to New Balance (8 mm) to vary my foot strike/gait and keep my stabilizing muscles thinking
I wear the GT-2000. Better price point with the stability needed. Glad to see this review though because I was wondering about the cost/ benefit of getting the Gel Kayano.
I had the kayano 26 and ran with it loads.. almost 1800km with no real problem. I just bought the GT-2000 because I can't spend so much atm. I am happy with both but the Kayano are a little wider, so a little comfier I'd say. If I could I'd have a pair of each to rotate. But I would definitely say that the Kayano are worth the money.
@@marekpejsek5071 thanks!
I was sadly disappointed in this shoe. I ran in them a few weeks ago but returned them. I found the midsole waaay too stiff for my legs. Love the stability and the weight for a stability shoe, but that’s about all I ended up liking. :(
What your main shoe u run in
@@speed_will I bounce between NB fuel cell prism and Brooks Adrenaline and transcend.
I'm sticking to my gliderides.
smart!!!
QD: absolutely the Glide Ride👍🏃🏻
I’ve always enjoyed the looks of ASICS, but never actually run in them. Brooks and Adidas are as far as I have branched out
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be sure to test the new nike zoom structure 23. similar concept to the kayano lite, no post or whatsoever. its very different from the old structures. please test it out. nike compared it with the infinity react flyknit and thrash that shoe. im curious to know ur opinion
Hi Seth, great review, how about compared to Kayano 27. I am an overpronator. thanks
Even though it may technically be a 2019 shoe, still loving the gliderides. Believe mine are at 375 miles and still feeling great. Not quite the same forefoot cushion roll feel but still plenty for the longer runs. Excited to see how asics updates this model. Hopefully we will hear something in the next few months
LOVE THE GLIDERIDE!!!
Hey Seth, are you able to review Asics trail shoes like the Fujitrabuco Lyte and Sky?
I’ve ran a lot in the Fujitrabuco Pro this year, and also the Fujitrabuco 8 and Gel Venture 7 (entry level stable trail shoe). The Fujitrabuco Pro is excellent, great grip in all trail conditions I’ve encountered and nimble on technical trails. I’m an ASICS fan but not slavishly devoted.
QD I have not tried out any different running shoes for the last 2 years since getting the GT-2000s since i need massive support when i run but i would like to try out some sort of different running shoe soon... but the GT-2000s is where im at now
Hey Seth, do you think the look of a shoe can affect your choice of shoe. Sometimes wearing a nice looking shoe gives me more confidence even if its not as good as an uglier shoe.
This is classic dad shoe
Seth: Your merch! I want to buy a vest (tank top) for training/races. Are they technical running vests, ie: moisture wicking, quick dry polyester? Cotton obviously is a no go.....
Seth - I have a question about the personal message perk. What is the mechanism by which we request a message?
Also, maybe a FAQ for the perks in all categories? Some are obvious, but some maybe could use some hashing out for folks.
All the best,
Gregg
Email me, good question. I'll announce on the "Community" tab as well, very soon.
sjdemoor85@gmail.com
@@SethJamesDeMoor Thanks, Seth.
QOD: ASICS evoride! Great easy day shoe 😃
off-topic: Which are some of the narrowest running shoes for men from ASICS?
Isn’t ASICS trying to do some greener tech in this shoe ? Not mentioned here ?
What's the difference between this shoe and the evoride
I want to see The different drop matrix 😁😁
Can you go over cold weather gear?
what sort of machete are you using to open boxes and your mail hahaha. some kinda Deer horn-handled crocadile dundee knife!
Hey Seth, quick question. I’m a high school athlete trying to make states for XC and Track. I currently train in the Brooks Hyperion Tempo. Do you think it would be better for someone like me to run in 2 different shoes or just one? Thanks, keep up the food work!
Greetings Seth 😎💪🏾
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my favorite asics shoes: tatheredge and sortiemagic. Are you aware of these 2 shoes?
Those asics ‚lite‘ shoes can be incredibly hard to find online, since there is also a ‚lite show‘ (high reflectivity) version of many models. Ugh. Who does asics‘ marketing?