Yes. I agree with you guys: the Gold Wing is a clear winner. Larger fuel tank and more stowage space would make it perfect. BMW is a great bike but really, nothing compares to this new Gold Wing…
I have four bikes, a 2009 BMW RT that I recently acquired with 13,000 miles, 94 BMW R1100RS, ‘97 Honda Valkyrie with 102,000 miles and Triumph Bonneville T100. I am mulling over selling all but the Triumph and getting a new Gold Wing or BMW. The RT has already cost me $1,300 in routine maintenance, plus has a fuel gauge (fuel strip) problem that cost me $400 and is on the fourth strip. The dealership no longer works on bikes over 10 years old and the service manager said they have numerous new BMWs that can’t be sold due to leaking brake calipers.
I always enjoy your videos. After watching this, I went with the new K1600 Grand America. Loved it so much till it hit 15K. After that, nothing but crap. I was at the dealer more then you know. It was not a Lemon bike !!! Its all the damn BOSCH sensors that this engine has plus problems with Hot and cold starts plus the major recall they had on the 6th gear which I did not have my bike for like 9 days. No loaner and far away dealer. I HAD ENOUGH !!!! Sold, lost tiny on her and went to the new Goldwing DCT Tour. I have 6K on a 2020 so far. ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO problems. She runs so good, so smooth, the Sport Mode is fantastic. I love the DCT and do not miss the clutch any more. I think GW from now on.....period.
Greetings from Oregon! Great video and review guys. 2 months ago I traded my 2014 Honda ctx1300 for the 2019 Goldwing airbag model and absolutely love it. No bike is perfect but this one really comes close. The performance is incredible. I'm getting 45-48 mpg. I'm about to go on my first roadtrip with it now that I feel very comfortable with riding it. I was amazed at how nimble the handling is for a heavy bike. Again, great video. Safe riding.
You two need to do more of these comparison videos. You do a fantastic job of going over the machines and giving your opinions with a sprinkling of humor!
I own a BMW GTL and ride it every day. I marvel at the engine, suspension and overall ride every time I am on it. Great review guys! Hello from Idaho. Ride across the USA soon and stop by this amazing state.
As my new GTL is my Bucket List bike, I hope to get out to Yellowstone and maybe beyond (from the East Coast). Idaho has always been on the list. Man, what a truly impressive state you live in!
Agreed! I bought a 2018 K1600 GTL last summer, after 20 years on my 1999 Honda Valkyrie. I test rode the new Goldwing Tour 6 speed, planning on buying it because of my long history on Honda bikes, but took a test ride on the GTL on a whim after putting a deposit on a GW. Once I experienced the difference in power and handling, ripping off clutch-less upshifts under full power, it was all over. I also liked the Beemer's additional luggage capacity, which is great on two-up trips, and the ability to easily remove the trunk when it's not needed. Ride whatever you love boys and girls!
Looked at and rode Gold Wing and K1600GA. Bought the K1600GA. Greater range, holds my helmet in the top box, smoother shifting and gearing ( manual Honda - I do not buy auto transmissions in my cars or bikes), replaceable GPS, etc.
Great review gentlemen, very fair and complimentary to both fantastic bikes. I ride a 1500 Valkyrie which shares some of the characteristics of the Gold Wing without accoutrements of comfort. I've test ridden the BMW 1600 and other models, and the BMW indeed has strengths for agility, but for cruising, the chassis of the Gold Wing cannot be beat. I wished you had addressed mountain ascents and descents, as this is where the Gold Wing suffers, like the Valkyrie. I've ridden all the European Alps and find the weight of the Wing, and the need to remain in 2nd and 3rd on ascents while using the same on descents, requires extreme diligence on the part of the rider. Doing it two-up is nearly crazy, as weight, inertia of mass on descents in hairpins makes this a challenge. I'm sure the BMW does this better. The comment about road surface is spot on; roads in Europe transition from cobblestone, to flat stone surfaces, to asphalt, and the heavy Wing must be extremely careful. Great review!
I own GTL E 2018 and I have bought myself the most expensive coffee do to lots of service visit. Use this bike daily done 10000 miles have new engine fitted, problems with electronics etc. and as always bike pull to left. I found myself that bmw owners are like Harley owners, everything is perfect, bike have no issue yet then you see them in dealer drinking coffee same as me. For me is a problem because is no other touring bike in market with this performance so let’s go for another coffee
For the longest time I looked at the Goldwing as my grandfather's motorcycle but the new version looks meaner and stealthier I'm all for some Goldwing now.
Love the Honda, interaction between you two, scenery and beautiful buildings around the town square, hoping to visit one day! Very informative review guys, cheers!
Great video! You two remind me of Ari and Zach from (used to be) Motorcyclist. You both have great comments and your personalities work very well together! Bravo!!!
I own a 2020 BMW R9T Pure and I’d pick the Goldwing. The quality of the features are just so much nicer. (Not really featured in this review, but other reviews point this out)
Really good review. I've only been on a Harley Elecraglide Ultra Classic as far as a touring machine goes. I've been on BMW boxers and K bikes. I've owned a Yamaha FZR750R, as well as a Kawasaki 750 Vulcan. At 58 years old I'm ready to drop some serious $$ on my "retirement" bike. The fact that you two younger guys liked the Honda so much makes me lean heavily in that direction. A touring machine with enough finese and performance to satisfy. Your total delight with the machine confirms why it is the cult classic! Can't wait to take my turn! And yes I would love to visit Transylvania😊
You are not wrong, boss. I sold my Grand America 2 years old since new. Sadly, too many issues and electrical problems. I had enough. I loved that bike. I just got 2020 Goldwing DCT Tour. Do not regret for a min. The K1600 is an amazing machine....AS LONG AS they run smoothly. If not, say hi to the dealer more then you think. Also, very hard to work on.
@@alp3781 IDK. The K bike is a bit different. As someone that rides one up 99.99% of the time, a K1600GT appeals to me more than the GW. The luggage is quick detachable and compared to the 2018-2020 GW, it has more storage. The ergos are better for me too. That being said, the maintenance on the K bike leaves me cold. If I got another BMW, I'd get a RT again.
K1600 is one of my favourite bikes of all time. Its a big comfy tourer, but that engine is very special ! So addictive to do big miles on it. Ive the comfort package, different brown hand made seats, akrapovic cans and some other mods. Love it. Getting the right screen took a bit of time as im 6ft3 , but it was fun.
I had a k1600b, made a mistake and sold it and bought the goldwing. Within a month i was lucky enough to get rid of that huge scooter and got back on a new bagger again. Thank God.
@@hereb4theend hi buddy. The biggest reason for me was the DCT box. The bike just felt like a huge scooter. I guess I am not ready for a gearbox to think for me on a bike yet, let alone change five gears in a matter of 100mts. I know you can put it in sport mode, etc, but it was still a schlep for me. Also, I live in south Africa, and here we do not get the nav on the goldwing, and it is totally senseless to have such a huge screen to only display radio stations. Unlike other parts of the world, for every 1 honda dealership, we have 50 bmw dealerships. The bike also is speed limited to 200kph. The k1600 GTL is about R100k less than the Honda, but it certainly does not have more than R100k worth of extras to justify. Just a few of my reasons.
@@zunaidkajee4540 I love these kinds of stories about riders finding their perfect bikes and the emotional connection they find in them. Thank you for sharing your experience. The K1600 is definitely a one of a kind cruiser. 😊
There's a bike for everyone out there. In the big sports touring class, these are the two big dogs no doubt about that. IMO even with the refinements on the newer Honda Goldwing DCT which I love I still feel that the BMW rides more like a motorcycle rather than a large luxurious scooter again IMHO. Either way one may appeal to one and one to another. You can go wrong with either one of these bikes. I picked the BMW which suites my riding style and am happy with my decision. Good review and the last part with y'all sitting and comparing like 2 old men bickering made me LOL Great Job !!!
I was surprised by the outcome, I was convinced the BMW was the winner, I watched your review of the 2018 BMW K1600GT and it influenced me to purchase a 2019 K1600GT. Both are iconic Motorcycles, my opinion is the K1600GT is more off a versatile Motorcycle take of the Top case you have an incredible sport cruiser, while the Goldwing is built as a cruiser. FYI on the BMW there is a shortcut menu to get your right to the handlebar grips. When I am out on a long road trip I really feel better about the BMW fuel Capacity. Either way the scenery and camera work Is brilliant and I enjoyed watching.
well said! I owned a gold wing and I think for a tourer like this the small tank size is a bit of a concern. It always annoyed me why they didn't put at least a 25 liter tank on it.
I really enjoyed this video and speaking English is a bonus and appreciated. I own a BMW R9T and it's a bit more maintenance than I'm used to and like to do my oil changes and maintenance so I look for all the best attributes
🇨🇦 Hello from a Honda F6B owner. A few other advantages of the GW might be Apple Car Play and for the general population it's slightly more affordable both to purchase and to service (with a larger dealer network for longer touring) I would think. I enjoy your review format and wish you all continued success.
And the winner is...The BMW R1250RT. All the comfort and enough torque and power to enjoy a "sporty" ride. 80 kilos lighter feels like a true motorcycle not a luxo barge on steroids. Waiting for mine...
@@mistery00t29 This boat, trailer whatever can smoke the tires like a hyabusa and pull wheelies like a 400 lb sport bike, you've obviously NEVER ridden a K1600 GT, because if you had, you wouldn't have made that comment. And trust me, in case your wondering, my last ride was a 2003 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird, so I'm quite familiar with high hp and insane speed. The K1600 GT is simply put, a superbike in a fat suit.
@@denniskarnes8680 RT ets it for brakfast on alpine twistyes. Every time. You should try one for comparisson, I own them both, 80kilos really pulls you out of the corner with centrifugal force much more noticeably.
@@zoranv12 I don't know how you can possibly say a 1250 can "eat for breakfast" a 1649cc motor that has much more HP and torque, I don't understand how you can make this comparison. Me thinks you are referring strictly to the RT's lighter weight and ability to handle turns, that may be good for where you live but here in the states, we have miles and miles of straight highway and have no need for a bike that can handle twisties, we like top speed, comfort, and a smooth ride and the K1600 excels in these areas.
Great video thank you really enjoyed all the perspectives not to mention the riding views -- really fantastic video gentleman "thank you" for your service!!!
Yeppers. I bought my '12 GW at age 39 and love it 7 years later... averaging close to 10k/year with it in the upper midwest where we're lucky to get a 6 month riding season at best.
Two “Wild & Crazy” motorcycle guys. Interesting review but wasn’t really complete without having a test with passengers as well. Truth is you can’t go wrong with either one of these great bikes, if you can afford the very high cost! My gorgeous and affordable 2014 Yamaha FJR 1300 will do fine for now, thank you very much.
I have been a BMW K1200LT owner since 2005. I have been waiting for GTL with the same features as my LT. Power center stand for example. That stand comes in handy.
Hi, I have a 2018 BMW K 1600 GTL. The best bike I’ve had so far. Smoothness, performance, ergonomics and long term comfort. Option 719 with all options and a reverse. Also have a 2008, Road King Classic Super tuner and screaming Eagles Slip ons, for shorter day cruising
Good job guys, you both have strong accents but I hung in there because you both talk very knowledgeable about these two bikes and hit on so many important things that a buyer needs to know. I may end up with one of these some day soon and you two helped me a lot. I am leaning to the Gold Wing mainly because of reliability over the BMW. I hear way too many bad stories about BMW breaking down, I don't care if it's under warrantee when I'm 300 miles from the nearest town and 600 from the nearest BMW dealer. Break downs are a deal breaker for me. I know my Honda's and Yamaha's just don't break down, bullet proof reliability is the most important thing for me, over price or style or anything else. I may end up wit either a Gold Wing to the Yamaha FJR 1300.
Thanks a lot, Bill - we're glad if these videos are useful and relevant for those who are looking for more information. Hope you'll get the right bike for you.
A great video guys. Good camera work and informative on specs. Didn't hear price comparisons. I had a Gold Wing from 2012 to 2016 then bought a BMW 1200 RT LE with lots of extras.
@@jannickjeppesen4218 talk about...i remember my favorite shop ( for over 30 yrs) a sure sign it was soon to be out of business... the tech in the back was clueless ...on every level. I walked away and was completely heart broken. So no more BMW's for me after almost 40 + years and 250,000 miles......so damn sad
@@davidfalgout7304 i love bmw, but there bikes, cant hold a candle to there cars. My 1200LT, a bike that I Denmark where I’m from, costs a whopping 94.000$ from new..! No im not crazy, not lying,.... that is the price we pay. Same goes for cars,.... so at that price, you do expect quality, but no... things kept breaking, heated grips, chrome fell off, small things, but newer had that on my Honda’s. The taxing isent bmws fault, but still, they’re supposed to build quality bikes
Two great machines and two great presenters. I've been to that wonderful country and to magnificent Sighisoara (unfortunately on a bus). I'd love to revisit on my K1600GTL. The roads in Transylvania are perfect for motorcycling and look incredible in the Autumn/Fall when the colours are at their best. Greetings from Dublin.
Great review, gentlemen! Quality camera work and amazing scenery as well. I have to admit that I was a bit surprised by the outcome. I thought for sure the BMW would be declared the winner. The Honda must have really impressed! If my Vision ever quits I would certainly consider both of these bikes as it's possible replacement.
Good sandwiches - integral part of road trip 😄. Great reports, lovely scenery and fair reviews. Good quality filming too. Very entertaining, I don’t actually want either of these bikes at the moment. If and when I do I think your country would be a good destination to tour from UK 🇬🇧
Just found this review and really enjoyed it guys, thank you. I am picking up my 22 Goldwing Tour DCT in a couple of weeks. I know this review is a few years old and I think Honda have now improved slow speed throttle response (DCT) with better calibration. Thanks again for a great review. 😊👍
I've loved the honda motorcycles in Japan. I had some CB and valkyrie. But for sports touring, K1600GT is the best in the world.It's so exciting, comfortable and safe.
Except nowhere on BMWs website do they even advertise it as a sports tourer... That’s why they make the 1250RS and s1000XR to fill in for sport touring needs
I got 280 miles out of my 7 gallon tank. Bmw feels extremely smooth like skating on ice ! GW rides more like a tractor & smaller fuel tank. My opinion for touring BMW ...
It's not really a sportstourer, it's just more sporty than the Gold Wing, and most bikes are. The Honda is better for going in long straight lines and the BMW is better on the corners. It's not easy to choose between them.
@@eddiebenzz I've gotten 286 miles from the 5.5 gallon fuel tank with my 6-speed 2018 Gold Wing ...the 2018 Gold Wing offers much better fuel mileage than the old model did
I have a 2003 Gl1800 and still LOVE it. Even though the BMW is nice, it looks more pieced together, where as the Gold wing looks more like one piece and it all flows together.
Where did you film this ride? I am on the fence with these two, rented the K1600 for an event don't need that much power am more used to the boxer engine. I bought the 1800 Gold Wing over the BMW when it was first released but would like to try out the new one with DCT. Just got a Vespa 300 GTS for beach rides and I love the "twist and go" smoothness without shifter, very stress-free and relaxing ride. Thx for great review
Good video. Yes we all know Honda makes great bikes but the BMW K1600GT is the King of the Road. Overall it beats the Wing but mainly on the sport touring side of things. Thank you guys, say hi to Dracula.
Another great video!! Apart from the bikes i also dig that light gray jacket!! Would you mind telling me what brand it is? It would be great if you guys left info about gear you use bcs its always great looking and i suppose you wear something functional and quality made given your experience. Cheers!
I ride a Gold Wing, here in Florida, USA 🇺🇸, but do not like the look of the 2018 Gold Wing. Therefore, in this comparison, my winner would be the BMW. Great video! Thanks for sharing. Ride Safely!
I was quite excited about the news of the new Wing but when it finally appeared and was heavier and slower than the K16 and with less luggage capacity and fuel capacity that ruled it out for me. I'd been hoping that the new Honda would beat the old BMW but sadly not. My K16GT is a daily ride and with panniers off and a bag on the rack it's not bad at cutting through traffic on the daily commute.
The Gold Wing is only marginally slower than the BMW GTL version, officially 0.2 sec 0-60, 8mph on top speed. But it’s really not for congested urban roads, strictly distance touring. Unless the extra tech is important, my Kawasaki Z1000SX does both jobs at half the price, has all t essentials, is considerably faster than either of them, and on my last run it returned 55mpg.
Thank you for the very nice reportage. In my opinion, there shouldn't be a winner. Those two big tourers with a different proposal. More comfortable driving position for the Goldwing and more sporty for the BMW K1600 GT. The GTL is more similar to the Goldwing. Why didn't you picked that up to compare? The BMW is outdated and I agree that a new make-up would more than welcome from BMW estimators. I am the lucky owner of a K1600 GTL and I use it every day in a big crowded city like São Paulo. I have not so much problems driving between the lines of the cars. The only BIG problem of the GTL is the heat that comes from the engine, in the city traffic, that makes you regret the buy when you drive it in summertime in a tropical country. The rest is pure fun! So, every one should buy the motorcycle that best fits his needs. The most important thing is that there is somebody that test them for us honestly pointing out pros and cons.
@@maxpm1587 Oi Max, tudo bem? Não sei responder à sua pergunta primeiro por não ter tido uma Goldwing e segundo porque nunca fiz uma viagem tão longa com a 1600. Conforto, segurança e potencia a moto tem de sobra. Eu vendí a minha para comprar a GS 1250 Adventure com a qual me divirto muito mais!! Espero que curta a sua viagem! Abraços
I still own and ride my flawless 2000 BMW R1100RT with just over 16000 original miles on it. it's still a great bike. If I had a choice to upgrade to a newer bike...... well, Mines paid for, and, I didn't have to take out a loan to buy it. Having said that, those two expensive bikes look amazing. They each would be a pleasure to own and ride.
Definitely will choose the Golden Wings. Beautiful shape. Excellency. More streamlined. not emit heat from the engine As BMW. More practical. Spare parts are available and much cheaper than bmw. resales value is retained. But BMW loses a lot. Regular maintenance prices at BMW are very very very high. so the winer is GOLD WINGS
Please do an update on this video. There is no "Best" when it comes to these two bikes. Just please do the differences and compare the pros and cons. Thank you. Great video. I have watched it more than once.
They're both cracking bikes.. bmw and Honda are quality machines...but since I was a teenager I've always wanted to own a goldwing ...and this new one is just stunning..but like most people way beyond my wallet ..have to keep looking for a gl 1500 great vlog chaps...👍👍🍺🍺
Both are really good bikes, you cannot go wrong either ways, it really depends what you want from the bike, the GoldWing has a great clutchless riding experience. I have ridden both bike's & if I had the money i'd buy both
I bought a 1200rt 09 a year ago with a lot of miles on it and it ran fantastically. I've been working on cars and motorcycles since the early 70's and know what I'm doing so I decided to check the mechanicals out, mainly just adjust the valves, they were so far out that I didn't know how the bike was able to run, I changed that so the idle came way down and the plugs were gapped horribly and not all the way in, some one worked on this BMW that did not know what they were doing, it runs fantastic now. I've also ridden a Goldwing 1800 and they are wonderful, I'd take either, very quiet, but I do love Harley's and would like to find an older one with a carb to chop, I've chopped a lot of them years back. Great vid.
I can’t imagine it has to be one or the other. There is room in the bike world for all examples of a great tourer. I’ve admired the GT since I saw the first one. Back then I had a K75RT and it seemed very sporty. Now I have a 2015 Goldwing and my likes have changed after having two ST1300s. Sport touring bikes have great storage but they are noisy. The GW is much more quiet and easier on my head. Maybe I am getting old. At 73 a tall seat is a real challenge.
Doesn't cost play a part in deciding which bike is best? Here in the UK the GW Tour is about £6k or over 25% more expensive than the K. I do like the GW a lot, but I think financial considerations would make me go for the K because that is also a great bike. I don't think the GW is £6k better than the K in terms of performance and equipment.
About the comment on driving in the city with a DCT. My current bike en previous bike both have DCT and you need to learn how to manage not having a clutch. It's simple if you got a hang of it. Use the rear break more often. If you would have a rearbreak lever where you have a clutchlever it would be perfect.
Did you try eco mode? Did you try a different suspension setting for highway? You have different Throttle settings as well (rain touring sport) what was yours set at in the city? Honda dealers tell you for the first few hundred miles keep it on touring so you get use to the dct then try sport because it will seem over Whelming at 1st, this is the 1st vid i see a neg. On highway handling for honda.
Great video guys! One big thing you didn't address is passenger comfort. There is no comparison there. The Goldwing wins that one easily. Look at that comfy chair. :)
For 2021/22 the rider comfort has been made better! Longer seat distance from rider, increased padding and cover material is better, higher backrest and the angle of the backrest is made for additional rearward lean! Good Rides
I recently bought a Goldwing from a co-worker with 103,759 miles on it. He logged in all of miles within 7 years. I been logging in over thousand miles per month with 130,100 miles on it now! I’ll swear to ya...this bike never had a single mechanical issues and runs like a hot butter sliding down on a burnt toast! When not riding it...it purrs like a kitten which you can’t say that about many bikes out there. My next bike will be a DCT GW because my hand is getting painful at times shifting in city streets. Damn arthritis! Anyhow, that’s my two cents of my experience thus far! I love BMW to!
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Yes. I agree with you guys: the Gold Wing is a clear winner.
Larger fuel tank and more stowage space would make it perfect. BMW is a great bike but really, nothing compares to this new Gold Wing…
I have four bikes, a 2009 BMW RT that I recently acquired with 13,000 miles, 94 BMW R1100RS, ‘97 Honda Valkyrie with 102,000 miles and Triumph Bonneville T100. I am mulling over selling all but the Triumph and getting a new Gold Wing or BMW. The RT has already cost me $1,300 in routine maintenance, plus has a fuel gauge (fuel strip) problem that cost me $400 and is on the fourth strip. The dealership no longer works on bikes over 10 years old and the service manager said they have numerous new BMWs that can’t be sold due to leaking brake calipers.
I always enjoy your videos. After watching this, I went with the new K1600 Grand America. Loved it so much till it hit 15K. After that, nothing but crap. I was at the dealer more then you know. It was not a Lemon bike !!! Its all the damn BOSCH sensors that this engine has plus problems with Hot and cold starts plus the major recall they had on the 6th gear which I did not have my bike for like 9 days. No loaner and far away dealer. I HAD ENOUGH !!!! Sold, lost tiny on her and went to the new Goldwing DCT Tour. I have 6K on a 2020 so far. ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO problems. She runs so good, so smooth, the Sport Mode is fantastic. I love the DCT and do not miss the clutch any more. I think GW from now on.....period.
Greetings from Oregon! Great video and review guys. 2 months ago I traded my 2014 Honda ctx1300 for the 2019 Goldwing airbag model and absolutely love it. No bike is perfect but this one really comes close. The performance is incredible. I'm getting 45-48 mpg. I'm about to go on my first roadtrip with it now that I feel very comfortable with riding it. I was amazed at how nimble the handling is for a heavy bike. Again, great video. Safe riding.
How many miles between fillups?
Guys you are by far my favorite! Great video, great interview and great location!
You two need to do more of these comparison videos. You do a fantastic job of going over the machines and giving your opinions with a sprinkling of humor!
I own a BMW GTL and ride it every day. I marvel at the engine, suspension and overall ride every time I am on it. Great review guys! Hello from Idaho. Ride across the USA soon and stop by this amazing state.
Thanks, Dave. We'll stop by. :D
As my new GTL is my Bucket List bike, I hope to get out to Yellowstone and maybe beyond (from the East Coast). Idaho has always been on the list. Man, what a truly impressive state you live in!
@@burnerjack01 I am overwhelmed by it's beauty every day! You have a place to stay if you come west.
Hello from Eagle....on my Goldwing.
Agreed! I bought a 2018 K1600 GTL last summer, after 20 years on my 1999 Honda Valkyrie. I test rode the new Goldwing Tour 6 speed, planning on buying it because of my long history on Honda bikes, but took a test ride on the GTL on a whim after putting a deposit on a GW. Once I experienced the difference in power and handling, ripping off clutch-less upshifts under full power, it was all over. I also liked the Beemer's additional luggage capacity, which is great on two-up trips, and the ability to easily remove the trunk when it's not needed. Ride whatever you love boys and girls!
Great review made by two friendly guys. Since a year I own the new Goldwing DCT/Airbag and I am really happy about it
I'm a BMW fanatic but believe you guys nailed it, the new Gold Wing is an amazing bike.
Great video
Looked at and rode Gold Wing and K1600GA. Bought the K1600GA. Greater range, holds my helmet in the top box, smoother shifting and gearing ( manual Honda - I do not buy auto transmissions in my cars or bikes), replaceable GPS, etc.
yeah, right.
....i dO nOt BuY aUtO TrAnSmIsSiOns.....
Great review gentlemen, very fair and complimentary to both fantastic bikes. I ride a 1500 Valkyrie which shares some of the characteristics of the Gold Wing without accoutrements of comfort. I've test ridden the BMW 1600 and other models, and the BMW indeed has strengths for agility, but for cruising, the chassis of the Gold Wing cannot be beat. I wished you had addressed mountain ascents and descents, as this is where the Gold Wing suffers, like the Valkyrie. I've ridden all the European Alps and find the weight of the Wing, and the need to remain in 2nd and 3rd on ascents while using the same on descents, requires extreme diligence on the part of the rider. Doing it two-up is nearly crazy, as weight, inertia of mass on descents in hairpins makes this a challenge. I'm sure the BMW does this better. The comment about road surface is spot on; roads in Europe transition from cobblestone, to flat stone surfaces, to asphalt, and the heavy Wing must be extremely careful. Great review!
I own GTL E 2018 and I have bought myself the most expensive coffee do to lots of service visit. Use this bike daily done 10000 miles have new engine fitted, problems with electronics etc. and as always bike pull to left. I found myself that bmw owners are like Harley owners, everything is perfect, bike have no issue yet then you see them in dealer drinking coffee same as me. For me is a problem because is no other touring bike in market with this performance so let’s go for another coffee
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That. Is. So. Confusing.
just go for RT next time, or at least go for a ride with one, while waiting there :) I did it, and never looked back (at least not with passion).
Zoran Veličkovski RT is for elderly people i am in my 30s and dont want granda bike with no performance
It only means youre subjective, and never gave it a try ;)
For the longest time I looked at the Goldwing as my grandfather's motorcycle but the new version looks meaner and stealthier I'm all for some Goldwing now.
I own a K1600GT, love the bike and for me it's perfect but two-up touring I'd lean towards the Goldwing.
Love the Honda, interaction between you two, scenery and beautiful buildings around the town square, hoping to visit one day! Very informative review guys, cheers!
Great video! You two remind me of Ari and Zach from (used to be) Motorcyclist. You both have great comments and your personalities work very well together! Bravo!!!
I own a 2020 BMW R9T Pure and I’d pick the Goldwing. The quality of the features are just so much nicer. (Not really featured in this review, but other reviews point this out)
Really good review. I've only been on a Harley Elecraglide Ultra Classic as far as a touring machine goes. I've been on BMW boxers and K bikes. I've owned a Yamaha FZR750R, as well as a Kawasaki 750 Vulcan. At 58 years old I'm ready to drop some serious $$ on my "retirement" bike. The fact that you two younger guys liked the Honda so much makes me lean heavily in that direction. A touring machine with enough finese and performance to satisfy. Your total delight with the machine confirms why it is the cult classic! Can't wait to take my turn! And yes I would love to visit Transylvania😊
The goldwing would be easier to live with from a maintenance perspective and more reliable.
You are not wrong, boss. I sold my Grand America 2 years old since new. Sadly, too many issues and electrical problems. I had enough. I loved that bike. I just got 2020 Goldwing DCT Tour. Do not regret for a min. The K1600 is an amazing machine....AS LONG AS they run smoothly. If not, say hi to the dealer more then you think. Also, very hard to work on.
@@alp3781 What's the price of both in USA?
@@sinister2423 These days, I would say the same price more or less. The Honda seems like of a more bike for the dollar.
I have to agree, my local Honda service department is head and shoulders above the BMW shop
@@alp3781 IDK. The K bike is a bit different. As someone that rides one up 99.99% of the time, a K1600GT appeals to me more than the GW. The luggage is quick detachable and compared to the 2018-2020 GW, it has more storage. The ergos are better for me too. That being said, the maintenance on the K bike leaves me cold. If I got another BMW, I'd get a RT again.
RIP Cristian. I love your reviews🤟
K1600 is one of my favourite bikes of all time. Its a big comfy tourer, but that engine is very special ! So addictive to do big miles on it. Ive the comfort package, different brown hand made seats, akrapovic cans and some other mods. Love it. Getting the right screen took a bit of time as im 6ft3 , but it was fun.
Please, let me know what screen you have because I am 6’ 2.5” and plan to buy a 2017 K1600GT in only a few months.
did you get it?
I had a k1600b, made a mistake and sold it and bought the goldwing. Within a month i was lucky enough to get rid of that huge scooter and got back on a new bagger again.
Thank God.
Why the change of heart? 😯
@@hereb4theend hi buddy. The biggest reason for me was the DCT box. The bike just felt like a huge scooter. I guess I am not ready for a gearbox to think for me on a bike yet, let alone change five gears in a matter of 100mts. I know you can put it in sport mode, etc, but it was still a schlep for me.
Also, I live in south Africa, and here we do not get the nav on the goldwing, and it is totally senseless to have such a huge screen to only display radio stations. Unlike other parts of the world, for every 1 honda dealership, we have 50 bmw dealerships. The bike also is speed limited to 200kph. The k1600 GTL is about R100k less than the Honda, but it certainly does not have more than R100k worth of extras to justify. Just a few of my reasons.
@@zunaidkajee4540 I love these kinds of stories about riders finding their perfect bikes and the emotional connection they find in them. Thank you for sharing your experience. The K1600 is definitely a one of a kind cruiser. 😊
There's a bike for everyone out there. In the big sports touring class, these are the two big dogs no doubt about that. IMO even with the refinements on the newer Honda Goldwing DCT which I love I still feel that the BMW rides more like a motorcycle rather than a large luxurious scooter again IMHO. Either way one may appeal to one and one to another. You can go wrong with either one of these bikes. I picked the BMW which suites my riding style and am happy with my decision. Good review and the last part with y'all sitting and comparing like 2 old men bickering made me LOL Great Job !!!
Really nice video - great chat, beautiful countryside, big bikes!
I was surprised by the outcome, I was convinced the BMW was the winner, I watched your review of the 2018 BMW K1600GT and it influenced me to purchase a 2019 K1600GT. Both are iconic Motorcycles, my opinion is the K1600GT is more off a versatile Motorcycle take of the Top case you have an incredible sport cruiser, while the Goldwing is built as a cruiser. FYI on the BMW there is a shortcut menu to get your right to the handlebar grips. When I am out on a long road trip I really feel better about the BMW fuel Capacity. Either way the scenery and camera work Is brilliant and I enjoyed watching.
well said! I owned a gold wing and I think for a tourer like this the small tank size is a bit of a concern. It always annoyed me why they didn't put at least a 25 liter tank on it.
Is it true that the BMW is governed at 100 mph?
@@robertoterriquez2132 no
very impressive review guys. phantastic cameraviews and almost replicable rider impressions. thanks a lot!
BEST CHANNEL EVER! sorry for the caps but it means it's truly true. Love you from Belgium!
THANK YOU!
You two guys are always a pleasure to watch on TH-cam, simply the BEST. Thank you from us all motorcycle riders.
Damn, Sure miss this guy. Always a pleasure to watch.
I really enjoyed this video and speaking English is a bonus and appreciated. I own a BMW R9T and it's a bit more maintenance than I'm used to and like to do my oil changes and maintenance so I look for all the best attributes
You guys are awsome as always, pleasure to following your tests. You are the best!
I really enjoyed you presentation of these two bikes. Thanks for the good job guys.
Great video guys!! Loved it!! My second time watching...
🇨🇦 Hello from a Honda F6B owner. A few other advantages of the GW might be Apple Car Play and for the general population it's slightly more affordable both to purchase and to service (with a larger dealer network for longer touring) I would think. I enjoy your review format and wish you all continued success.
Mike C pretty sure they’re in Europe, meaning BMW’s dealership network should be just as good as Honda’s. For North America, you’re probably right...
You guys are always entertaining, with also giving an in depth review. Cheers too you...
Very nice video guys. I've seriously been considering the Beemer, and glad I watched your review. Time to look at the Goldwing.
You guys are so good together. So much fun to watch. A big thumbs up. ;-) Good video by the way.
i love their accents but it's sometime hard to tell when they are being serious or sarcastic with each other. love the content
And the winner is...The BMW R1250RT. All the comfort and enough torque and power to enjoy a "sporty" ride. 80 kilos lighter feels like a true motorcycle not a luxo barge on steroids. Waiting for mine...
You are 100% right...first,the look of RT is amazing,more than enough 1250cc...for what reason they made this boat...trailer...whatever...
@@mistery00t29 This boat, trailer whatever can smoke the tires like a hyabusa and pull wheelies like a 400 lb sport bike, you've obviously NEVER ridden a K1600 GT, because if you had, you wouldn't have made that comment. And trust me, in case your wondering, my last ride was a 2003 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird, so I'm quite familiar with high hp and insane speed. The K1600 GT is simply put, a superbike in a fat suit.
@@denniskarnes8680 RT ets it for brakfast on alpine twistyes. Every time. You should try one for comparisson, I own them both, 80kilos really pulls you out of the corner with centrifugal force much more noticeably.
@@zoranv12 I don't know how you can possibly say a 1250 can "eat for breakfast" a 1649cc motor that has much more HP and torque, I don't understand how you can make this comparison. Me thinks you are referring strictly to the RT's lighter weight and ability to handle turns, that may be good for where you live but here in the states, we have miles and miles of straight highway and have no need for a bike that can handle twisties, we like top speed, comfort, and a smooth ride and the K1600 excels in these areas.
Great video thank you really enjoyed all the perspectives not to mention the riding views -- really fantastic video gentleman "thank you" for your service!!!
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The Goldwing is a GOOD bike at any age.
*Any age over 75
I'm 28 and I own a 2018 GW.
David Gifford *Any age when you don’t give a shit about other people’s opinions.
I’m starting that at age 41.
Yeppers. I bought my '12 GW at age 39 and love it 7 years later... averaging close to 10k/year with it in the upper midwest where we're lucky to get a 6 month riding season at best.
@@keemez I had a '13 and put 45k miles on it, I still marvel at that bike and miss it. The boxer engine made valve checks easy.
Two “Wild & Crazy” motorcycle guys. Interesting review but wasn’t really complete without having a test with passengers as well. Truth is you can’t go wrong with either one of these great bikes, if you can afford the very high cost! My gorgeous and affordable 2014 Yamaha FJR 1300 will do fine for now, thank you very much.
I have 2011 FJR 1300, and I love it - but I want the new one because of the 6-speed, the electronic cruise control, and the lower seat height.
Steve Martin and Dan Aykroyd...my first thought while watching this video.
I don't remember the Goldwing's double wishbone front suspension being discussed. That is a big plus for comfort. I love it.
I have been a BMW K1200LT owner since 2005. I have been waiting for GTL with the same features as my LT. Power center stand for example. That stand comes in handy.
Hi,
I have a 2018 BMW K 1600 GTL.
The best bike I’ve had so far.
Smoothness, performance, ergonomics and long term comfort.
Option 719 with all options and a reverse.
Also have a 2008, Road King Classic
Super tuner and screaming Eagles Slip ons, for shorter day cruising
Good job guys, you both have strong accents but I hung in there because you both talk very knowledgeable about these two bikes and hit on so many important things that a buyer needs to know. I may end up with one of these some day soon and you two helped me a lot. I am leaning to the Gold Wing mainly because of reliability over the BMW. I hear way too many bad stories about BMW breaking down, I don't care if it's under warrantee when I'm 300 miles from the nearest town and 600 from the nearest BMW dealer. Break downs are a deal breaker for me. I know my Honda's and Yamaha's just don't break down, bullet proof reliability is the most important thing for me, over price or style or anything else. I may end up wit either a Gold Wing to the Yamaha FJR 1300.
Thanks a lot, Bill - we're glad if these videos are useful and relevant for those who are looking for more information. Hope you'll get the right bike for you.
A great video guys. Good camera work and informative on specs. Didn't hear price comparisons.
I had a Gold Wing from 2012 to 2016 then bought a BMW 1200 RT LE with lots of extras.
I've been waiting for this. I like the functionality of the Honda Gold Wing strapped to a BMW K1600.
Ben go
10 years from now, the Bmw if still around, the resell price i way lover than the gw. Dont get me started on build quality. Goldwing for me 👍🏻😉
AMEN !! Not to mention... find a BMW dealer.... good luck with that
@@davidfalgout7304 ore finding one that delivers service 😂🤘🏻
@@jannickjeppesen4218 talk about...i remember my favorite shop ( for over 30 yrs) a sure sign it was soon to be out of business... the tech in the back was clueless ...on every level. I walked away and was completely heart broken. So no more BMW's for me after almost 40 + years and 250,000 miles......so damn sad
@@davidfalgout7304 i love bmw, but there bikes, cant hold a candle to there cars. My 1200LT, a bike that I Denmark where I’m from, costs a whopping 94.000$ from new..! No im not crazy, not lying,.... that is the price we pay. Same goes for cars,.... so at that price, you do expect quality, but no... things kept breaking, heated grips, chrome fell off, small things, but newer had that on my Honda’s. The taxing isent bmws fault, but still, they’re supposed to build quality bikes
Two great machines and two great presenters. I've been to that wonderful country and to magnificent Sighisoara (unfortunately on a bus). I'd love to revisit on my K1600GTL. The roads in Transylvania are perfect for motorcycling and look incredible in the Autumn/Fall when the colours are at their best. Greetings from Dublin.
Great review, gentlemen! Quality camera work and amazing scenery as well. I have to admit that I was a bit surprised by the outcome. I thought for sure the BMW would be declared the winner. The Honda must have really impressed! If my Vision ever quits I would certainly consider both of these bikes as it's possible replacement.
One is comparing two different bikes, Luxury Goldwing with the less luxury BMW. One should compare the goldwing with the BMW 1600 GLT
Appreciate your points of view and your explanations of those views. Nice job.
Good sandwiches - integral part of road trip 😄. Great reports, lovely scenery and fair reviews. Good quality filming too. Very entertaining, I don’t actually want either of these bikes at the moment. If and when I do I think your country would be a good destination to tour from UK 🇬🇧
Just found this review and really enjoyed it guys, thank you. I am picking up my 22 Goldwing Tour DCT in a couple of weeks. I know this review is a few years old and I think Honda have now improved slow speed throttle response (DCT) with better calibration. Thanks again for a great review. 😊👍
Really enjoyed this video guys, dig the colors of that Goldwing.
I've loved the honda motorcycles in Japan. I had some CB and valkyrie. But for sports touring, K1600GT is the best in the world.It's so exciting, comfortable and safe.
Honda Valkyrie wow just purchase one myself new model Wish I Had It many years ago
Goldwing is the best tourer!
BMW 1600 is the best sportstourer
Except the Goldwing has less storage. Which becomes an issue on 2 week trips.
Except nowhere on BMWs website do they even advertise it as a sports tourer...
That’s why they make the 1250RS and s1000XR to fill in for sport touring needs
I got 280 miles out of my 7 gallon tank.
Bmw feels extremely smooth like skating on ice ! GW rides more like a tractor & smaller fuel tank. My opinion for touring BMW ...
It's not really a sportstourer, it's just more sporty than the Gold Wing, and most bikes are. The Honda is better for going in long straight lines and the BMW is better on the corners. It's not easy to choose between them.
@@eddiebenzz I've gotten 286 miles from the 5.5 gallon fuel tank with my 6-speed 2018 Gold Wing ...the 2018 Gold Wing offers much better fuel mileage than the old model did
I have a 2003 Gl1800 and still LOVE it. Even though the BMW is nice, it looks more pieced together, where as the Gold wing looks more like one piece and it all flows together.
Another great video guys, I always like your stuff
The DCT changed everything in the motor world
Yes, I Love my GL1832! Best MC I've owned thus far! Thanks, Maw Honda!
Awesome video.
I've like the way y'all have done it. Very natural.
Good luck and keep up the good work 🥂
Thank you for using english in your reviews; I enjoy very much. Your, both of you, mastery of english is impressive.
awesome vid bro, keep up the good work!
Great bikes and review, excellent filming and such beautiful countryside, amazing.
Where did you film this ride? I am on the fence with these two, rented the K1600 for an event don't need that much power am more used to the boxer engine. I bought the 1800 Gold Wing over the BMW when it was first released but would like to try out the new one with DCT. Just got a Vespa 300 GTS for beach rides and I love the "twist and go" smoothness without shifter, very stress-free and relaxing ride. Thx for great review
Thank you. It's in Romania
Good video. Yes we all know Honda makes great bikes but the BMW K1600GT is the King of the Road. Overall it beats the Wing but mainly on the sport touring side of things. Thank you guys, say hi to Dracula.
Great review guys, as usual amazing camera work, thumbs up!!
Another great video!! Apart from the bikes i also dig that light gray jacket!! Would you mind telling me what brand it is? It would be great if you guys left info about gear you use bcs its always great looking and i suppose you wear something functional and quality made given your experience. Cheers!
paradoxiCk Same question!
@@itsnatedude i think i found it! Its revit ridge gtx
Thank you for this nice video with two pieces of amazing beautiful 😍❤️ art.
I ride a Gold Wing, here in Florida, USA 🇺🇸, but do not like the look of the 2018 Gold Wing. Therefore, in this comparison, my winner would be the BMW.
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Ride Safely!
I was quite excited about the news of the new Wing but when it finally appeared and was heavier and slower than the K16 and with less luggage capacity and fuel capacity that ruled it out for me. I'd been hoping that the new Honda would beat the old BMW but sadly not. My K16GT is a daily ride and with panniers off and a bag on the rack it's not bad at cutting through traffic on the daily commute.
The Gold Wing is only marginally slower than the BMW GTL version, officially 0.2 sec 0-60, 8mph on top speed. But it’s really not for congested urban roads, strictly distance touring. Unless the extra tech is important, my Kawasaki Z1000SX does both jobs at half the price, has all t essentials, is considerably faster than either of them, and on my last run it returned 55mpg.
Very enjoyable video and both guys gave their honest opinion good and bad.
2 Amazing Bikes and 1 Amazing Country - Now I need to take my K 1600 B out and do the same :) Great Video!
Good review. For my personal preference, I like sport touring bikes and though they're both huge bikes I'd have to take the BMW.
Wouldn’t the GTL be the better comparison to the GW ? I’m thinking of the riding position.
Thank you for the very nice reportage. In my opinion, there shouldn't be a winner. Those two big tourers with a different proposal. More comfortable driving position for the Goldwing and more sporty for the BMW K1600 GT. The GTL is more similar to the Goldwing. Why didn't you picked that up to compare? The BMW is outdated and I agree that a new make-up would more than welcome from BMW estimators. I am the lucky owner of a K1600 GTL and I use it every day in a big crowded city like São Paulo. I have not so much problems driving between the lines of the cars. The only BIG problem of the GTL is the heat that comes from the engine, in the city traffic, that makes you regret the buy when you drive it in summertime in a tropical country. The rest is pure fun! So, every one should buy the motorcycle that best fits his needs. The most important thing is that there is somebody that test them for us honestly pointing out pros and cons.
A BMW tem a mesma mesma confiabilidade da Goldwing..? Posso fazer uma viagem de uns 6mil km sem medo
@@maxpm1587 Oi Max, tudo bem? Não sei responder à sua pergunta primeiro por não ter tido uma Goldwing e segundo porque nunca fiz uma viagem tão longa com a 1600. Conforto, segurança e potencia a moto tem de sobra. Eu vendí a minha para comprar a GS 1250 Adventure com a qual me divirto muito mais!! Espero que curta a sua viagem! Abraços
I still own and ride my flawless 2000 BMW R1100RT with just over 16000 original miles on it. it's still a great bike.
If I had a choice to upgrade to a newer bike...... well, Mines paid for, and, I didn't have to take out a loan to buy it.
Having said that, those two expensive bikes look amazing. They each would be a pleasure to own and ride.
You should have put at least one zero more than 16000 :) What's wrong?
Definitely will choose the Golden Wings. Beautiful shape. Excellency. More streamlined. not emit heat from the engine As BMW. More practical. Spare parts are available and much cheaper than bmw. resales value is retained. But BMW loses a lot.
Regular maintenance prices at BMW are very very very high. so the winer is GOLD WINGS
Accept the Gold Wing is an old man's bike.
The Beemer for me...!
Please do an update on this video. There is no "Best" when it comes to these two bikes. Just please do the differences and compare the pros and cons. Thank you. Great video. I have watched it more than once.
They're both cracking bikes.. bmw and Honda are quality machines...but since I was a teenager I've always wanted to own a goldwing ...and this new one is just stunning..but like most people way beyond my wallet ..have to keep looking for a gl 1500 great vlog chaps...👍👍🍺🍺
Both are really good bikes, you cannot go wrong either ways, it really depends what you want from the bike, the GoldWing has a great clutchless riding experience. I have ridden both bike's & if I had the money i'd buy both
Very good video gentlemen. If I had to pick, the BMW would be the one for me.
I bought a 1200rt 09 a year ago with a lot of miles on it and it ran fantastically. I've been working on cars and motorcycles since the early 70's and know what I'm doing so I decided to check the mechanicals out, mainly just adjust the valves, they were so far out that I didn't know how the bike was able to run, I changed that so the idle came way down and the plugs were gapped horribly and not all the way in, some one worked on this BMW that did not know what they were doing, it runs fantastic now. I've also ridden a Goldwing 1800 and they are wonderful, I'd take either, very quiet, but I do love Harley's and would like to find an older one with a carb to chop, I've chopped a lot of them years back. Great vid.
Really entertaining video thanks. Nice English skills and funny banter.
I can’t imagine it has to be one or the other. There is room in the bike world for all examples of a great tourer.
I’ve admired the GT since I saw the first one. Back then I had a K75RT and it seemed very sporty. Now I have a 2015 Goldwing and my likes have changed after having two ST1300s. Sport touring bikes have great storage but they are noisy. The GW is much more quiet and easier on my head. Maybe I am getting old. At 73 a tall seat is a real challenge.
Doesn't cost play a part in deciding which bike is best? Here in the UK the GW Tour is about £6k or over 25% more expensive than the K. I do like the GW a lot, but I think financial considerations would make me go for the K because that is also a great bike. I don't think the GW is £6k better than the K in terms of performance and equipment.
Watch out for Count Dracula! Great video.. Love the Wing
Great video guys.
Good guys, your don a good job. Thanks for that video. I like it.
Excellent comparison!
Excellent analysis.Thks again guys.
LOVE my '16 GL1800! Thanks for the video :o)
About the comment on driving in the city with a DCT. My current bike en previous bike both have DCT and you need to learn how to manage not having a clutch. It's simple if you got a hang of it. Use the rear break more often. If you would have a rearbreak lever where you have a clutchlever it would be perfect.
Did you try eco mode? Did you try a different suspension setting for highway?
You have different Throttle settings as well (rain touring sport) what was yours set at in the city? Honda dealers tell you for the first few hundred miles keep it on touring so you get use to the dct then try sport because it will seem over Whelming at 1st, this is the 1st vid i see a neg. On highway handling for honda.
Awesome, classy review gentlemen!
Hows the ride in bad roads? Like bumpy roads and lots of bumps? Is the suspension travel enough? In Mexico the roads are not very well manteined
Which Castle is this on 11:04 ?
Rupea Citadel
Great video guys! One big thing you didn't address is passenger comfort. There is no comparison there. The Goldwing wins that one easily. Look at that comfy chair. :)
For 2021/22 the rider comfort has been made better! Longer seat distance from rider, increased padding and cover material is better, higher backrest and the angle of the backrest is made for additional rearward lean! Good Rides
I recently bought a Goldwing from a co-worker with 103,759 miles on it. He logged in all of miles within 7 years. I been logging in over thousand miles per month with 130,100 miles on it now! I’ll swear to ya...this bike never had a single mechanical issues and runs like a hot butter sliding down on a burnt toast! When not riding it...it purrs like a kitten which you can’t say that about many bikes out there. My next bike will be a DCT GW because my hand is getting painful at times shifting in city streets. Damn arthritis! Anyhow, that’s my two cents of my experience thus far! I love BMW to!