Slow Driver, Fast Car vs Fast Driver, Slow Car
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- Today we’re going to find out how fast WillNE, a NORMAL DRIVER, is against me, a PRO DRIVER…. AND how much faster I can make him through driver coaching alone….
To do that, we’ve set a challenge. Will is going to set a time in the 500 horsepower 911 GT3 - and THEN, I’m going to coach Will to see if he can be FASTER THAN THAT in a 150 horsepower Mazda MX-5.
Taking you along for the ride in HOW I COACH SOMEONE to be as FAST AS A PRO. But, the first order of the day was to see what Will can do in the MX-5 with ZERO coaching.
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OVERDRIVE fans! I know this is similar to the video we did with Max Fosh, but we wanted to make it more focused on driving technique and so decided it was better for it to sit on Driver61. There will be new content coming out on OVERDRIVE soon, so stay tuned! Cheers, Scott.
Nearly commented on how "overdrive" this when it started.
I don't see any problem. Here or on OVERDRIVE the content is still at 10/10 level.
@@aleksanderklimczak6066 No issue, just it was the first thing i thought when i started the video
@@aleksanderklimczak6066 Callum left and will got made redundant
if you do more of this kind of stuff your channel will blow up quick. assumed everyones been away for the holidays but keen to see what you have new year
This was so much fun - Ty for having me!
Great to have you Will. And really, excellent driving my man. Who do you nominate next?
@Driver61 weirdly, Will just said I was next? 🤷😬
Now you can finally drive your Porsche properly lol
@@Driver61geowizard
Well done! What an impressive jump in times and skill.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the steel balls Scott must have to put himself in a car with a noob and telling them to send it 👏
Thanks for the compliment 😁
not just a car a fucking 500hp monster lmaooo
Seriously. Mad respect.
@@Driver61Noob? 🤨 I hope he's a mate of yours.
it's great just seeing him crack up every time
I think this video speaks better of Scott as an instructor than of Will as a student. Will did a fine job, but Scott's way of teaching is quite remarkable!
Yes, it does say a lot of Scott's teaching, but don't underestimate a student willing to learn and listening to the teacher, internalise the new skills. Will started out overly aggessive (which could have been a habit that is hard to let go off within a few laps)
@@marcodebruin5370 not underestimating Will at all. It's just that I've been a teacher for many decades and I can easily tell remarkable teachers/students apart from unremarkable ones. Will did fine but there was nothing remarkable about him, however, the way Scott went about things and his teaching methods seem very outstanding to me.
i wish i could hear what he was instructing better.
But the vid prob wasn't made to instruct the audience. Plus being British, he was difficult to understand at some points (for me).
wtf dawg @@luceatlux7087
Scott was brilliant but you cant teach a donkey to be a racehorse so full kudos to Will… he has some talent IMO.
Damn, someone has talent! With one bloody day of training he improved so damn much. No imagine a full week of training. I reckon he might have a shot at some amateur class racing series with a bit of training.
He was genuinely very good, for sure her could drive in an AM series.
@@Driver61 I mean, you were giving him the exact right advice he needed to hear at the right moments, the coaching was excellent as well
Most improved student!
he's probably at that level already lol, he's genuinely good
@@scottex.he does karting too
3:39
The moment he thought Scott would brake, then realising Scott didn't brake until a full second later 🙂
Excellent moment 😂
🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely love this moment!! Will's face and reaction was classic😂😂
the panicked looking around after the "bang!" is hilarious like "brake already you madman"
Coming from someone who's been a club instructor for 15 years, it's validating to see a pro instructor start with the same fundamentals: Vision, weight transfer, and smoothing of inputs. Regarding the first, at our schools we mark the turn-in, apex, and track-out of each corner with orange cones. I try to get my students to focus on the track-out cone as soon as possible. And once it's obvious they're going to get tot that cone, be looking down the track for the next turn-in. Another trick I've seen used (but I haven't done this) is to put a piece of tape on the windshield about 1/3 up from the bottom, and tell the student their eyes should always be pointing to a spot above it.
Nice!
thats what i was always taught as well, smooth is fast. look around the corner, plan the exit, and your times will drop quickly.
I tell my students (based on the math) that inside a certain distance in front of the car, they’re actually “looking into the past” because actions they’ve already taken will determine what the car does in that distance
I've done lots of autocross and track days and I still don't look far enough ahead. It is a really important skill! You are right to put attention to it.
@@eyemastervideo I gotta confess, I should know better, but I still catch myself looking too low. High speed driving is basically unnatural.
Who would you like to see next? Let's get a leaderboard going!
Mark Fernie from Drive Tribe. Darcinefel ....cuz a Navel Historian driving fast sounds funny to me.
Might be a tough ask but anyone from Donut media would probably be fun
Ashens! I wonder if he would be up for this?
How about me :) A non-Tuber should go up against everyone on the leaderboard.
Tom scott duh
8:22 "We found the limit and we decided to tell the limit to piss off" I love that
A true Pastor Maldonado moment, right there.
The roundness of the helmet somehow emphasizes his square head even more
The energy in this video is immaculate. Smiling almost the whole time. Well done, Scott and crew! Massive ups to Will for being absolutely rapid.
Agree so full of nice athmosfere and occational one liners like when Scott says 'Did that feel well?' when HE just had the roller coaster ride of his life (or at least week). Was like one of those 'pro driver takes whife/woman/anyone for a ride and scares the sh*t out of them', Will looking totally fearless all the time.
So fun. The collision of an incredible instructor with a hungry student is absolutely beautiful. And what an experience. So much fun.
This was one of your better videos. I really like the conclusion with both Scott and Will in the Porsche. I feel like some of the previous videos ended without a satisfying conclusion.
Haha yes! I was almost mad he didn't do a gt3 lap. Very thorough 😃
Wills last lap in the Mazda looked amazing, what a difference! Incredible coaching, I would love to have this opportunity, I've done quite a few track days in the past and even had a little bit of coaching, but nothing like this.
I've never done anything of the sort but I'm wishing I had when I actually had a bloody sports car for ~6 years (03 350Z). Kinda a mix of a little fear and uncertainty kept me from ever seriously considering doing something like that. I inherited my dad's 2012 Merc E350 which at least 0-60 wise is apparently about on par with my Z but doesn't have the brutal suspension, so that's always something I could try to have fun with but I definitely wouldn't want to go into something like that without some kind of instruction otherwise I'll either be driving way too cautiously or fuck up bad somehow.
11:28 - that explanation of gentler braking and throttle, and how it helps weight transfer, finally got me to understand trail braking.
Yep. I was taught by an instructor that while he held a half filled 500ml bottle of water on it's side/horizontal, for me to drive as smoothly/quickly as possible, so as to try to keep the water as level as possible and not all going to either end of the bottle.
This is the style of video we like. Driver61s main advantage over other car yt channels is the skill and experiance of one of their drivers. We love these driver training videos and tips
Not only a skillfull and experienced driver, but a skillfull and experienced coach. It's one thing to be able to drive quickly, but another to coach well.
Great point. @@nickel36
The thing about trail braking is that it's one of those addictive feelings. Once you learn to do it right, it just feels sooo good, that you want to experience it constantly. Especially in a manual car. Yeah, doing fast laps is great and all, but that feeling of full control over the car and the feedback, especially from something mid-engined like an MR2... absolute bliss.
Same goes for using it cornering on bikes with the rear brake.
@@Gl-my8fw Ex-racing driver here, still can't fathom the size of the balls on race bike riders!
Driving skills are the one thing but knowing the track is the other which makes you faster.
This is a really cool format. _Much_ better than the "every time they lose, we upgrade their car" format, frankly. I loved seeing the progression! It made me feel like I was really involved, feeling his victories and improvements rather than just watching a video.
Plus you don't have to get half a dozen cars at once, so it's got to be an easier format to organize!
Definitely enjoying the coaching aspect for normal drivers! Perfectly suited for Driver61!
Highly appreciate that you've taken on board some suggestions on getting in representative lap times for both yourself and the guest, at both the start and the end of the day, and in both slowest and fastest cars. Really helps the audience to see just how much they've improved and just how brilliant your mentoring is. One of the may reasons your channels are worth clicking the bell icon for notifs, the videos are always a treat
Excellent video. For me this brings the "dicking about in cool cars" format back towards the (sim) driver training format to just the right extent. Keeps it fun, but also informative/technical. Great job.
The whole point of being fast is to hit brake points and be patient, smooth through turns. This video shows exactly that. No aggression needed what so ever, which most of the drivers do exactly that, use aggression.
Yes, I see that in gokart, they drive like crazy, and seconds slower than me, I just drawing the lines smoothly.
I'm only an average sim racer with some track and karting experience but I can tell that Will has some natural feel for car handling, even on his first lap, his reactions to counter the car's oversteer shows that he has some talent, Great video!
wow that scott person was outrageous! he should be pro, great training from willNE too, such a good coach
Such a shame the overdrive team isnt around anymore. This series was class on overdrive, looking forward to see what you have upcoming regardless
Wait they aren’t?! Just thought they were taking a holiday😅
We will be producing more content on OVERDRIVE - stay tuned. Scott.
@@Driver61 F for Will though.
@@9wowable F for Callum too.
@@rorypudshas anything happened with them?
Hahah I’ve been asking for Will to be on this series for ages, bloke loves cars and motorsport. Top lad.
Seeing the difference in how settled the Mazda was around the corners before and after training was probably a better visual illustration of weight transfer than most of your more technical videos on the subject. Great work. Started out bobbling around all over the place, and after the training he just soared through the corners like a bird.
This was a mixture of brilliant coaching and brilliant driving. Great to watch.
Scott was really enjoying seeing Will's improvements, just as I do when coaching on track in my MX5. One difference with me is that I prefer my drivers to start at 80% of what they think they can do and build from there, with the same learning topics in the same order. But then I do my coaching at track days where drivers are also learning to be in traffic on track and where they don't always have such big and flat run-offs.
Smooth is fast.
0:45 _"Let's get it goin' the right direction first, and then we'll start to optimize"_
I like this dude
Will is an absolute character. Should definitely get more people on for more of this
Great video! One of my favourite things about track days is the ability to play with your car, explore the limits, experiment with the balance and improve your own skills in a relatively safe environment, with no risk of getting a ticket. This video made me wish I could do one every weekend. More please!
Smooth is fast. As a part time instructor you can tell he was getting better just watching his hands. One smooth motion out, in (apex), power down, track out. Your steering angle should be mirror your pedal application. More steering angle = less pedal, brake or gas.
This is really like something from the good old top gear, it was very very instructive in terms of what could be achieved with excellent coaching and a keen learner but it was also extremely fun and funny to watch certain parts. Nothing beats genuine enthusiasm from both parties. Just brilliant!
Its crazy how good a teacher Scott is. Made me realize I need to find a driving coach near me, this is valuable info.
Wow. No way he had no experience of driving fast was what I thought. The way he catches the drifts? Absolutely superb.
Loved the analysis, explanation coupled with the physical demonstration of the impact of braking and accelerating on the car's balance.
Not only was it a blast to watch, but I actually learnt something as well. Love the enthusiasm and humour. Thank you Scott! Well done Will!
This was a great video and also sparked some buried memories from a couple students I’ve instructed. Vision is something I can spend all day coaching on. Exactly like you put it, the further ahead you look the smoother and proactive you can be
Couldn’t agree more with looking where you go!
VR has really helped me personally by giving me that depth perception. I can really “look through the corner” like I couldn’t with a single monitor.
Great video guys! I knew Scott would be faster in the Miata in his first go!
I definitely feel like VR is undervalued by most sim racers.
@@bakedandsteakedthe horizontal fov is usually worse than triples, and some people get motion sickness. But yeah, couldn't agree more!
@@surfer101ist I've never tried triple monitors but I can see how some would prefer that peripheral vision over VR. You can move your head in VR, but that's not very useful when you're trying to keep your eyes on track and you're not sure where a car is next to you because you don't have the FOV. I think the reason I like VR so much is that it's 3D and you have real depth perception. Of course you can guess with fairly good accuracy how far a car or brake marker is on a 2D screen, but adding a 2nd point of reference (1 in each eye) really helps me make sense of where things are on track. Ultimately, I would say that the best display setup is dependent on what type of driving you do and how you want to use your vision.
@@surfer101ist realism :) its like you have an actual helmet that restricts your view, as it would normally, and you look around how a normal driver would
@@amyorissa I mean, I have a reverb G2 so a racing helmet definitely has more horizontal FOV. But it definitely feels more like wearing a helmet!
What an amazing video!
It's incredible to see just how much progress can a random bloke, who loves karting make in just one day of driving. I really loved the way Will was constantly getting instructions and feedback. Keep up the good work!
2s more than your coach on your first day is awesome. This is an example of great coach and great student.
I really enjoyed watching this - and I've just learned how car balance is more important than how quick you can brake and get back on the throttle. I always believed i should stamp on the brakes, then turn, then apply full throttle as soon as possible but this video shows how thats not going to exploit the grip the car has when everything is balanced. It's a shame that track days are too expensive for me now, as I'd love to get back on track and put some of this learning into practice. I'd love to spend a day in the car with Scott and really learn how to be in control on the limit! 10/10 video guys!
It must be immensely satisfying as you coached Will, to see the huge improvements he made.
What a great video. As an instructor myself, this video encapsulates the process of every new student driver. Technique before horsepower, the last second is mega difficult compared to the previous 5+ seconds. I always ask my students, "Do you want to be fast because you bought a fast car, or because YOU are a fast driver?" Then I say, if you want the best modification to your car being YOU driving, then focus, learn, and use the techniques. This process will work with almost everyone for that initial big improvement. That last second improvement, well, that's another story and another video, IMO. Again, great video, thanks!
Epic video, the beginning was so fun and had me laughing out loud! What a great guy to work with, his enthusiasm reminds me of what I love about performance driving.
Vision was THE SINGLE biggest thing that impacted my driving for the better. I was racing in a monthly arrive-and-drive karting series of about 90 drivers, and I was consistently finding myself in the back of the B-main / front of the C-main (so around P50 to P70 of 90). I did some coaching sessions with a great coach who drilled into me how critical proper vision is.
After a few sessions with him I came back to the next month's round and found myself running mid A-main (P10-15 of 90) and sniffing at podiums!
Vision slows everything down and gives your mind time to process - it also opens up the rest of your periphery to do useful things like navigate traffic and find gaps in the pack.
Great stuff!
You’re having to teach him how to look far ahead as possible and at corner targets. My dad taught me this stuff when I was like 5 years old. Videos like this are a good reminder to everyone that majority of people are just really bad drivers and lack the understanding of how different vehicles stop accelerate etc. Learning to proficiently operate many different platforms, sizes everything from a three wheelers and 200hp liter bikes to muscle cars and 90k lb semi trucks in the snow and everything in between has been a real blessing for sure.
Hey everybody, look at this guy, was a pro driver before he could even look over the dash
@@tbunreall no but my first memories are helping and watching my old man build race cars
That was so fun to watch and made me want to work harder to get track time. WillNe got so much faster by being smooth on controls vs where he started. Very impressive! Also I drove a GT3RS (991 I think from 2013) on a track and I couldn't stop smiling for months. Life changing experience to be sure. Thanks for posting!
8 seconds of improvement after a day of training is damn impressive. Awesome job guys!
I do this for a job in Australia as an advanced driving coach. While this is a great guy to work with, sadly many are harder to coach than this. Great work and a solid improvement from the start of the day 😊
I had a student at Nelson Ledges years ago. The guy wanted to race, but was frankly scared to death. I couldn't get him to go faster than about the speed of a pace lap. Chief Steward even let me take him out in my van at speed to show him how it should be done. The scary part we lapped faster in my van than he was in his 510. That still didn't convince him he could go faster and be safe. At the end of the weekend, he was signed for the first school but with notations that he must show marked improvement in a second school. I encouraged him to go autocross all that spring and summer and do a second school in the fall. I figured the autocrosses would let him get comfortable driving the car as full out as he could before getting back on a track with real speed.
I don't know what happened to him.
Holy shit guy improved so much and Scott teaching by the individual needs it’s what’s helped on this 🎉
Years ago, I used to autocross. Once I learned to control weight shift, and suspension loading, it was a game changer. I picked up 2 seconds on courses with 45 second lap times.
I used to run a hillclimb and this was very important as the last bit of the course at the top, the pitch of the road changed, so the car would get light. Many thought they hit oil or whatever, panic, and then the car would spin. Instead, you had to learn to ride through the weight shift and keep control of you as much as the car.
Great to see how eager he was to be fast, sometimes when they put someone without experience in a fast car it's just hopeless
What an awesome day for Will. And how awesome of you guys to give him the opportunity.
I'm speechless, otherwise.
Oh, and jealous x 100 😂🤣
This way far more entertaining than I expected. Everybody had great enthusiasm and energy!
Any biker will know looking where you want to go makes a huge impact because we basically steer where we look, so bikers are told to NOT look at the thing you want to avoid.
I enjoy videos like this as just watching will give tips and learning by proxy.
That poor MX-5 in those first laps, probably wondered what it had done wrong to be punished like that.
Very fun video to watch, as you guys clearly had a lot of fun, but it was also educational and I got to learn a ton of what happen to a car on a racetrack juste by watching mere minutes of your coaching! We want more like these! 🏎️🚗
I really liked the educational aspect of this video, great job :)
Wow! I always tell my clients how important coaching is but this is absolutely a stunning example of such.
Good work by the team! I’d love to see more of this content!
That's really good coaching. My mate Will is a lucky man. Thanks all for sharing it.
Great video. Shows what they teach you at the major driving academies - balancing the car correctly is key to a fast lap time.
Just shows, a good driving instructor could allow you to go faster than if you were in a car that was 10x the price. That was a great video. Boy would I love to have that kind of experience and learning
Coincidentally got on your channell, simply LOOOOOVED every second of this clip - and therefore, of course, subscribed immediately. Especially enjoyed the enthousiasm of the 'instructor' seeing the progress of the 'student'. Just GREAT, really. Thumbs up👍👍👍!!
Wicked video! The patience you had and your approach to coaching Will is impeccable! Cheers guys!
GOSH. I'm 68 now but way back i won a day at Silverstone with Alfa Romeo... Caroline Grant-Sale (Will Hoy's wife and v quick karter) was my instructor. 7:22 brought back memories like it was yesterday when Scott was showing how looking ahead alters the cars attitude... 🙏
Now at 12:00.. the way Scott is talking about weight transference is EXACTLY what every quick White van driver knows!!! ( Sorry the M5 driver I dived up the inside of early one morning - NOT!!! 😂😂)
This is a good evolution of the "driving with other people" videos you guys have been tinkering with. I like the focus on instruction over competioin
I loved this. I hope you do more of taking new drivers and teaching them and then seeing how they improve on time
This was an excellent idea for a video! And it was well filmed and edited all around. There is a good balance between showing the fun and thrill of driving, and discussion about racing and coaching. It highlights the coaching more than the personalities, but the personalities is what makes the video work so well.
It would be exiting to see you coach someone who isn’t initially at all comfortable going close to the limit on a race track, and ease them into it. Doing it over multiple track days might work better. For a nervous student part of the learning is emotional, not just technical, and they still need to be in front of a camera.
What I would personally like to see included is slower recaps of full laps, with commentary by you or the student. This would help audience get a better feel of the track as a whole.
Love this idea, would be funny to see the rest of the senior frogs take a couple lessons and see their endurance racing improve
17:01 I love that there was absolutly no hesitation there from Scott 😊
The most entertaining part was Will's face when he got back in the Porsche..
Welldone Scott,a brilliant video.
@6:58 omwards should be compulsory for getting your license.
I had access to high level driver training from a young age, and as such never experienced driving without certain inherent skills.
Hearing Scott describe the visual cues used to gauge where the track surface is (and more importantly ISN'T) - really helped to articulate something i have struggled to explain to others seeking guidance on how to drive with increased confidence and/or smoothness.
I have watched like tens of the videos from you and normally there is some technology Topias- and you are telling some nice details. This video shows that motorsport is physical act and you are understanding it so high level that you can be perfect teacher.
It would be nice to have video where you are sharing what you are thinking when you hotlaping.
The balls to get in the 911 with will after that lap in the mx5…
NC Miata has SO MUCH body roll! And I say that as a proud owner.
I would rather drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow! Also Miata MX-5 are much cheaper than a 911. Scott is a very good coach.
Great video! It is really nice to see WillNe evolution through the first and last atempt!
This was genuinely such a good video - Really informative, great fun - personalities were super, amazing camera work, nice story, lovely editing. Honestly could be a TV show.
Man, well done.
[+] Did not crash
[+] Did not crash the blue car
[+] Had fun
[+] improved your time
[+] improved your technique
Respect!
Please use this Force in proper places now
Top notch, that was the most entertaining video I've seen in a long time! What a great student he is(good teacher also). Thank you so much for making this.
He doesn't seem like a total noob to me. But if he is, what a fast learner.
The only thing this video is missing is brake/throttle telemetry. would be interesting to see the overlap and curves before and after to really be able to see the changes in discipline. Great job Will & Scott!!
This is actually a great concept of an exercise/video and executed amazingly. Top video
This was very entertaining. The joy and panic blend brilliantly.
I was looking for ways to improve cornering while sim racing my Porche and Corvette and watching you train ths guy helped alot - lucky dude - which I could have experienced that. Thanks for doing this. I’m gonna go work on traction throughout the whole turn now.
this was such a joy to watch! top job , thank you!
This was a great watch, ive been sim racing for 3 years on iracing ive been at 3111 irating witch isnt bad for a rookie, ive been picking up tips from everyone matt malone, jimmy, suellio, dave cam+ more, but ive learnd how to actually look in to a corner now, that was super interesting, i just tend to focus on the outside kurbs and apex's i dont look past them in to the actual corner, cant wait to try implement some of this in the sim
A long, long time ago I was taught racing by a Ford works driver. I turned up at Brands Hatch, and the car he produced was an old Austin A35 delivery van which was only on three cylinders. As it was only 850cc, it was S-L-O-W. I did a couple of laps and found I could drive them flat out with no braking. Anyway, we timed my laps. Then he started teaching and by the end I was twelve seconds quicker. And that was just down to correct lines that don't scrub off speed.
Very enjoyable video, happy for this guy having an amazing day.
i don't think you could have made a better ad for your driving tuition skills - amazing ( and fun )
We need Behz and Josh Zerkaa doing this😂
Yes!
Really enjoyed that. Great teaching must be being able to transfer knowledge whilst making the recipient feel good about it.
Awesome Scott. I have been following and learning from you Driver61 playlist from past few years and trying to improve my sim racing and karting [sometimes] skills and gain bits of time. But replicating those tutorials into a trackday kind of thing by coaching someone really shows how important technique is in track driving. Would love to do similar [or overdrive] stuff someday😊🙌
seeing will go from a frantic madman hands flying and shouting to someone completely focused and locked in was a treat.
Looking through the corner. One of the first things motorcycle riding teaches, because _you go where you look._
This was so enjoyable. Educational, entertaining, and we got to watch a box man learn new skills 🙌🏻
He's a bloody mad man. Sign him up to the channel. 😂
amazing comparison, great teaching and a great student.(always need both to succeed)..well done everyone
Scott-"Okay we're ready!"
Will-"Oh wait oh we're ready?!?!?"
I personally love these videos like this! Also when all 3 of you guys do competition against each other. Great videos! Keep them coming guys!