Windows 10 on Windows XP? - An Attempt
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More correct name for this video:
Windows 10 inside Windows XP inside Windows 10
Basically a Windowsandwich.
@@DryPaperHammerBro Lol my PC ate a windowsandwich
Put a hundred of them inside of each other. Good luck not running out of RAM. Windows 10x100=Windows 1000
@@MikeL100 Let's use Windows 10 Pro and add 1TB RAM.
w i n c e p t i o n
You should have run Windows XP on real hardware when trying Windows 10 virtual machine!
I don't think you can run your latest hardware on a windows xp machine without a virtual machine due to incompatability.
@@reecescott3559 New hardware still normally supports Windows XP, not 100%, but most of the things work fine.
@@E-virtuosEu Right but video drivers nowadays do not even have drivers for their latest cards, meaning most things won't work fine because to me a gpu is worth a pretty hefty percent.
Reece Scott so just use an old gpu, who said it had to be fast
@@bakedpotato1238 Because you're running a windows 10 virtual machine? 🤔
Jebus Michael you blow me away. Although it didn't work as planned, Windows 10 running Windows XP running Windows 10 is one crazy Windows sandwich. I hope if you do get it working you post a follow up video.
Virtual Box 5.2 works with XP! Try with that as Virtual Box 3.1.6 or Virtual PC 2007 are too old
Royal Kingdom no, the latest VirtualBox version supported on XP is VirtualBox 5.0
nolemretaW yes but he can’t use 5.2 on XP
Yup actually works for me, although i also made sure my VM supported hardware passtrough for maximum compatibility. Very sluggish but it runs fine! :D
@@pikaaxyt You're wrong, Virtual Box 5.x works in XP! 6.0 does not work because it only support 64 bit Windows, I assume it works with XP 64 bit
@@pikaaxyt I installed 5.2 and it worked
that virtualbox ui is so nostalgic, reminds me of 2012 and messing around with my thinkpad t41 and vms ;w;
Take a shot every time he says "actually"
i have poisoned alcohol now
Try using XP 64 bit, it might work...
and a newer version of VirtualBox lol
Or newer version of VMware if it works on Windows XP 64-bit
@@NoobyXPSP2 haha funny to get a reply from such an old comment...
@@shay1117 ?
@@TorutheRedFox this is WIndows Xp.
I've run Windows 10 on a VM on XP on physical hardware. Doing it on a VM is less likely to work.
You should make a part two where you attempt it on 64-bit XP with a bunch more RAM. Not sure the memory is the issue here, but it's something to try!
Second this, 32-bit is dumbdumb to try this on.
Did you know that an old version of QEMU is able to run under DR DOS and FreeDOS using HX DOS Extender? You definitely should try to do a reverse virtualization on DOS.
I'd love to see you do some new Windows Beta videos. Those were my favorites of yours.
Yeah it has been a while. I'd love to do some more videos on betas!
@@MichaelMJD I like the $5 Windows 98 PC videos you make
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Hey Michael, I got the Windows 8 installer to start because XP was on the native machine! It went into the installer just fine and now I’m entering the product key.
You actually can use more than 4GB of RAM on x86 via PAE and most hypervisors should be able to enable PAE for the guest OS, and KVM master race.
I also hate commies
You've heard of backwards compatibility, now get ready for forwards compatibility!
The reason why Windows 10 is stuck at logo on boot:
*Old VirtualBox versions set the paravirtualization mode to Legacy, which Windows 10 doesn't support*
_and it's unchangable unless you update the VBox Version to 4.3 or newer_
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4:26 That pop, such a nostalgic sound effect
Those old versions of VB and VMWare Player probably don't support PAE, or SSE2, which is required to run Windows 8 or later. VPC 2007 definitely won't work. I believe VB 5 is the final version to support Windows XP. Try VirtualBox 5 and see if that works.
Anyone remember when druaga1 did videos like this a while back? Pepperidge Farm remembers!
As do i, didn’t he manage to do it a couple times in, vm in a vm inside another vm?
I ran Windows 10 on a Windows 7 virtual machine and the hardware was pretty damn old
CrAzYgIrL and i ran windows 10 on my windows 7 pc back then when i still had windows 7 (since i upgraded it) and it’s was buggy as hell
@@Serichuwu I was running the insider preview, it was very odd. I remember video looked very strange and obviously didn't really run. Edge was also a piece of shit. I mean, it always was that's why it's dead but it was even worse back then.
CrAzYgIrL Paint 3D also looked like shit.
You could try this experiment once again on a Windows XP x64 edition.
However, This Experiment is so interesting to watch.
Thanks Sir.
Thx I’ve been looking for this kind of video
Awesome video Michael
All the syptoms and error messages are related to the processor not supporting the NX feature. I assume that the old virtualization software you are trying to run Windows 8/10 on just does not have support for NX within the VM, as it was not needed for the older OSes...
The next best thing that I think you could try is maybe QEMU? I'm not sure if there is a version of QEMU that supports Windows XP but its probably a good place to start
I succesfully ran Windows 10 on XP using a combination of VMWare Workstation (Modified EXi Profile for hardware virtualization passtrough) and Virtualbox 5.2 (In my case a modified one i had laying around but the original should work fine).
I like how back in the day windows xp had a seperate version for x64 with its own product keys and shit, so you couldnt use a product key for windows xp home x86 on windows xp home x64, its even specified that its an x64 instillation when you start the computer
Yeah, Virtualbox would have most likely have worked as many other comments are saying. Anyways, good try though! Keep up the good ideas, I am enjoying them! :)
I made a windows 10 vm inside xp and it worked
Why are you using such an old version of VirtualBox?
Cuz the newest version not supported windows xp
I personally call the Windows 10 bootloader wheel the "dot wheel" or ".wheel", it's the most accurate term I can think of, and it rolls off the tongue to boot. We need to spread the terminology for the sake of simplicity!
Just a quick thing xp WILL NOT RUN natively on any intel cpu newer than 4th gen. A 3930k 3770k or a q6600 would be ideal any thing newer than 2008 should work just make sure it has VT-X compatibility
I hope you do this, I'm having similar issues trying to install a Windows 8.1 VM on my Windows 10 host, technically I could go to my old HP Stream 11 if I ever wanted to use Windows 8.1 (well Windows 8.1 with Bing, maybe you could do a video on it). The main issue is that virtualization is not enabled
You can enable it on your bios
Go find it somewhere
@@Sulfuricdev that didn't work though, I still got an error and it broke all my other Virtual Machines.
Please try this on real hardware! That would be really interesting to actually see.
Have you tried booting from that ISO in a PC? Because i've downloaded the official x86 ISO from the Microsoft Download Center and the same happened to me when triying to install 32 bits Windows in a regular PC via USB stick. No wheel spinning, no error messages, just frozen. 64 bits versión worked fine instead.
Hmm that’s interesting. I am going to try this on a real XP machine to see if it yields different results.
You can install a much newer version on virtual box on xp
Super nice Michael :)
i just realized you were using a very old version of virtualbox whch did not have virtualization implemented, if you use the latest 5.2 version of virtualbox it could work.
Windows xp
It Works on a 64 Bit Windows XP.
Running a newer system on an older one is a challenge? Windows 10 on Windows 7 or Windows 10 on Windows 8.1 should be pretty easy.
Is it a vm in a vm?
Yes i think
The emulated processor of the XP VM is missing the required x86 instruction set. Windows 8.0 is the latest version that I believe will run on XP era processors.
Install XP on a spare HDD on your main PC. Both to try and achieve this and also just because it would be amazing to check out in a video of its own.
Why didn't you use your Dell Latitude?
Very cool video idea but you can not install windows 10,8.1,8 because you are running an very old version of virtualbox and windows xp isn't supported any more also the limit of this version of virtualbox is to Windows 7.
I recall that with Windows 8, Microsoft started requiring hardware DEP to even boot the installer. Ran into that trying to install Windows 8 on an older Pentium 4 machine without DEP, the damn install would just crash with that cryptic black error screen you showed in the video.
I tried Win10 on WinXP (XP as host) and found out that you can install Win10, but you will need a LOT of patience since you can only assign 1.5GB of RAM to the VM since XP is a 32bits OS and can only see 2.9GB of RAM since MS disabled PAE on XP. I also tried with xp 64bits but virtualbox can't install. Don't have 2k3 server ATM, but I assume that you will be able to install on the 32bits release more easily since PAE is enabled on the server editions of Windows.
You can run Windows 10 on windows xp PROVIDED your actual hardware can run it which in this case is the windows xp guest which i doubt is compatible with windows 10
Interesting note, in case you didn't know, Windows 10 will be the last OS to have a 32-bit version available. This is NOT available for Windows 11.
Yes you can’t run Windows 11 on Windows XP 32- bit, but it may be possible to run Windows 11 on Windows XP 64-bit
I was actually trying to do this on a physical Vista install (old computer, just given to me) and I was looking up if it was at all possible.
After seeing this, I'm gonna try this out on my machine.
I use to run Windows 7 inside a VM on a netbook running Windows XP back in 2010
please run Android on that netbook
@@user-tj7hk1ss8d Nah the Acer Aspire One is starting to slow when I run Android. I use to use Android as my main OS, but with each update it hurts the Aspire One AOA150-ZG5.
@@ShadowUmbreon do not run Android 8, just get android 6 or 5 or 4 then you are great
but Android x86 does not receive updates once you installed it on your netbook
Last time this was attempted, the universe imploded.
Lets look in the future shall we?
try running windows 7 in the vm then run windows 10 on a vm inside windows 7. note your pc might explode
Could you emulate a 64 bit processor in a 32 bit machine if you disabled hardware virtualization?
I actually did something like this before, but it was with 64-bit Ubuntu being the guest OS instead.
I have windows 10 running on windows 7 in virtualbox 4.3.12
This version of Vbox works on XP. I recommend to use that one on XP with real hardware. I have an XP comp, but it's only got 1.5GB of RAM, so won't work.
I still use this old version on Win 7 because they added this stupid "hardening" after that and it won't run on an OS with patched files (not taking about cracked activation - it's patched DLLs).
14:09 I'm not sure but that may be because PAE/NX is not detected and this happens only with Windows 8 and above. I learned this from one time that i tried to install Windows 8 on a 2002 PC previously running XP 32 bit.
you could try it on windows xp 64 bit to see what happens. And it'd need to be a p4 prescott to meet the minimum requirements for windows 10, anything less literally doesn't have enough coding. And there is video evidence of it working (on a desktop at least)
It'd also be interesting to see how it runs if windows 10 is tweaked for performance for low end machines as much as possible and given the best scenario hardware (to prove how out of date it is, and what the result would be to upgrade such a machine to show the bottlenecks (temporarily upgrade of course) High end gpu (by modern standards), max ram speed the motherboard can support.
And to be fair if you really want to see the true potential of a p4, there are socket 775 boards with DDR3 support (Dell made some, there are non oem but those are harder to get) It'd also be interesting to put a pentium D extreme edition (2 core with hyperthread) to the same task in the same settings and try to use it in modern use scenarios (technically its capable enough if that is done but barely from what i've seen)
Amazing Video!
Where's the video where you run windows 10 on a windows xp computer? It's been over a year now.
If you go with XP real hardware, you might as well try even older host while you're at it... Windows 2000 Pro.
I believe Vbox version 1.5.6 was the last version to officially support Win2K host.
That was when it was still made by Innotek, before Sun Microsystems.
Well if atleast 5.0 runs on Windows XP (although despite it being lower than the "requirements"), then VBox on Win2K can surely go higher than 1.5.6!
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I'm sure you're right... Pretty much anything that runs on XP can be backported to 2K.
1.5.6 was just the last "officially" supported version.
I think 5.1.x was the last with XP support.
I did this many years ago on my old xp machine thinking it would give me better fps in games lol
Ah yes, I did that too as if *ram and graphics cards didn't exist*
great fun guy!!!!
i remember someone actually installing windows 7 on windows 98 lol
And someone running windows 8 on a windows xp tablet
and someone running vista,7,8,10 on a xp tablet
You need VMware 9 to do this.
I tried this on VMware 9 on XP 64-bit. It doesn't work either.
However, I did get it to work by installing a Windows 7 VM, then installing VMware 15 in that, then installing a Windows 10 VM in the Windows 7 VM in Windows XP.
you should use a real windows xp pc that has vt-x/amd-v and virtualbox 5.2 (newest version for windows 32-bit)
Why are you climbing the mountain - Because its there.
I have actually Gotten Windows Vista to work in an XP VM with Virtual PC
Although Windows 32bit is limited to 4GB, Windows itself reserves 2GB to the OS and the other 2GB for the rest of the applications.
There's a 3GB switch to enable Windows XP to let the applications use 3GB instead of 2GB, you can try it following these instructions at:
knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-enable-a-3GB-switch-on-Windows-Vista-Windows-7-or-Windows-XP-s.html
Trying doing this experiment, Host PC running macOS in a VM, then Linux running in macOS, then Windows 10 running in Linux.
Tried this on a physical machine now and uploaded a video about it, in case anyone's interested in that ^^
You can actually do it but you need to give a better specs I need more than 16 MB in the video display settings do you need to set it to Windows 88.1 to 10 on the virtual box general settings depending on your version of windows are trying to get a need to tweak the settings so it gets more resources so we could actually boot and then when you’re done you need to install the virtual machine tools which can be yet with the expansion pack on the website also by downloading the William’s version of virtual box so you have compatibility
Itd be slow but couldn't you run a more modern linus inside a vm in XP, then run windows 10 inside virtual box inside that? I imagine youd get a recent distros of debian to boot fine. Even if you can get into vista somehow then emulate onwards?
try using more version of virtualbox
Why not Oracle VirtualBox?
Next vid:Virtual Machine on a virtual machine on a virtual machine
A few years ago I tried to install Windows 10 on an old laptop (Celeron M from 2007, 32-bit), and it also just got stuck at the windows logo with no spinning animation.
Hey Michael, just letting you know that I do have a copy of the full release windows 8 (not 8.1) and a copy of the windows 8 developer preview both 32bit if you want either. 👍
I was deceived..
I thought this was running modern Windows 10 apps on XP
Is better if you install something lower than the host OS. I use Windows 7 but Windows Vista kinda hogs. Windows XP and lower runs more efficiently.
I have a physical Windows 10 tablet with only 1 gb of ram and Windows 10 runs fine. XD
You can try to use VMware workstation 9.0.4 it works I have vms on it on windows xp 32bit so it will work
Good effort
Windows 8 and 10 can't work because of PAE, a feature required by newer windows and the older vm software doesn't emulate it.
i tryed VM on a mac the VM is runing windows 10 and the mac is runing MacBook Air (13-inch, Early 2015)
my grandparents are STILL using a Windows XP PC!!!!
Boomer
Windows 10 inside Windows XP inside Windows 10
My brain : its inception 2
OOOh the only reason its not booting because you did NOT give it amd vt-x or intel vt support in the vm which you could do in vmware which is the only why windows 10 could not boot cause it was trying to use sse2, pae, and NX instructions that the vm did not have due to no virtualization support available in it.
Video idea: Running Windows 10 on Windows 1.0
can you run a virtual machine on Windows 10 running Windows 7 running a virtual machine running Windows XP running a commodore 64 emulation?
YES!!! Another attempt, please!
you know its old when sun microsystems was around
What is windows XP like in 2019
AWESOME for games of the era.....I was playing Crysis on my XP box yesterday. It's so good playing the "unplayable on high resolution" game on a PC I got for $10 at the tip....and on maxed out settings aswell....
Why would you want to downgrade?
"why would i be doing this"
for fun
WHY NO IO APIC? I feel like that one is... required.
Aww. *A gigabyte is not 1024 megabytes, it's exactly 1000! The earlier is gibibytes. Also it could be some more.*
You should use VMware Player 6, it is compatible with XP, and it can run Windows 10
@@ThatRandomToast VMware 6 came with Windows 8 compatibility, which also applies to Windows 10. I tested it already before, and it worked.