John, with in the past year I have been laid off from my job. After several long discussions with my wife I decided to go back to school. After some thought I ended up choosing to get into CNC machining technology and I would like to thank you and your videos for helping me make up my mind on what way to go.
If theres one single little piece of experience i want to pass along for lathe work its, only use loc line as an absolute last resort when running automatic, parts here and there onzie twozies its just fine but chips LOVE to pull those off and distroy tooling. whenever you buy or use a new tool holder bend a nice copper hardline to apply the coolant best you can, keep the lines hugging the turret and tool so there is as little chance the chips can push or pull them around as possible. for things like insert drills coolant pressure is absolutely critical for their survival.
ohhhh baby ! that a sweet looking lathe. looks like it has lots of room to work on it and service it,everything seems to be laid out nice. Can not wait to see it make chips with all it extremities haha. Good work guys :)
Hi John. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Shaun from England and I am so impressed with all that you do within your workshop and the way yo have self taught yourself ie mills lathes. I love your videos so much. I am 50 years of age and as an older man who is very mechanically minded I am inspired by such a young man who has such a fantastic attitude to all you turn your hand to. In addition I love the fact you make family time at weekends and seem to truly have a fantastic balance between work and Family. Good on you. John back in 1989-1994 I worked at Hygena Kitchen manufacturers running a Fanuc Six headed Heian Router making centre Panels and Profiles on Doors. I loved it but left to pursue a self employment in mechanical engineering. Now semi retired I would love to invest in a Cnc Mill- Lathe. I would be extremely grateful if you could give some advise as to what machine to start with and some direction as to software to use. Like you I intend to self teach myself but would like something forgiving to start with. I wish you all the best John, Eric and all your family from here in England. Cheers Sean. Show less
Wicked cool! That's a machine. I read the comments in the last video if this was the right thing for you to do. Never mind that. You have yourself an awesome setup now, and what a progression from that little Sieg just a few years ago. That said, I hope you know what you are doing, financially. You're young and eager, hard work and brains goes a long way. Best of luck.
YO!!! Mr Grimsmo :~) You have been keeping me in suspense with this new lathe.... it's been a month plus since your last video.... I think i speak for all your fans.... the suspense is killing us bro :~) Tell us how it's going :) a picture or two... possibly a rough video.... we want to share your excitement!!!! :)
Oh, and I think you interchanged X and Y servo. I believe the lower servo is the Y axis which most likely works like a wedge that is pushed/pulled in and out. But I'm not 100% sure if thats how Nakamura realises their Y axis.
Was thinking about an old video u had about wood inlays. How about u first cut them to inlay size using the tormach and then use the saw to cut the thinness of inlays. That might work.
+jonathon friedl if i get a waterjet then I'll need a double disc grinding machine and a lapping machine too, since those are the first and only 3 things we send out for.
That's just too much fun. How do I buy a GK sticker for my 8-year old Tormach. I'm going to repaint it soon (rustier than yours was), and it's going to have some clean spots that could use some character.
so cool, keen to see it in production ! PS I made my first 2 knives 2 weeks ago. Cut up an old circular saw blade to make some concept cheese knives. Really need a jig for getting the grind angles right (-:
Did the service tech have to perform activation on the control? Some multi-axis machines actually require this. BTW you don't want to know how much that levelling tool costs. It's accurate to within a few arc minutes. Only the Wyler ones are better.
Holy shit, 8k$ for that Wyler levelling tool! Thank god I'll probably never have to buy this myself. Oh and control activation by a service tech is pretty much standard right now, don't know which machining centers or lathes don't require it. It plays a pretty important role for warranty.
just like @mrliamcooley said, 6mm cobber pipe them thread the end and bend it and cut it, so it fits like you wont it to that's the way we do it at work.
Ok John it's been since sept since you last put out a video we all know you have a new toy and I think we're all dying to see how that new toy is working and what other neat things are going on with it. So buddie please not keep us in suspense any longer and let us see what's up. P.s. Don't take this the wrong way it's kinda a joke and kinda my own selfishness wanting to see the new lathe.
I would say that a cosmetic dent that probably happened during shipping and moving isn't worth the hassle. You have to think of all the logistics of moving a machine that large. The time it takes, the money spent, etc. Not to mention how long they would be waiting just for a new machine without a dent they covered with a sticker anyway.
Hi I hope you guys are going great. I tried to buy a few times but website still says sold out and I've had to settle for something else unfortunately. I don't make knives but I make metal artwork and do sell out on occasions but when I do I put a date on website when they will be available again. I'm no where as big as you guys just a small fish in the ocean, with only 50 subscribers on TH-cam and around 4000 on FB but I can understand how stressful it can be when receiving plenty of orders when all you want to do is complete current work. I would love to put name down or, Is there any chance of a deposit system? Love your work guys and look forward to watching the great videos. Cheers Rick Australia
I would get away from those brass coolant balls you have if possible (might be the best for options wise). Reason being is that they have a tendency to spray the tool holder before the tool, wasting potential coolant, and when you cinch them down, they will eventually start to develop flats from the clamping mechanism so they become harder to move around for different setups (greater tendency to return to said that position). Loc line is awesome but they do have a PSI rating (unknown) as well as a flow rating (30 gph?), so they can be kicked around with high pressure. I wish I had a straight this is the best "product" answer but after my time trying to get it all figured out, I have concluded coolant lines are only best if they are considered a consumable to be replaced after x amount of time and wear, or the money is spent on coolant through tooling; awesome but VERY expensive.
As opposed to pouring the water into the oil? I don't think it really makes any difference how you mix the coolant as long as you mix it. To my understanding all you have to remember is to mix the coolant outside the machine and then pour it into the tank. Don't try pouring in the water and oil seperately.
[...]When adding “soluble oil” concentrate to water, the emulsifiers suspend the oil particles in the water, and will form the stable emulsion desired. If the water is added to the concentrate, the emulsifiers “release” part of the concentrate to “grab” for the water. This forms an “inverted emulsion”, causing parts of the fluid such as the lubricant package, biocide package or rust inhibitor package to be lost. Some or all of the chemical packages within the fluid may be affected. The mix stability, concentration, and the dye may also be affected by inverting the emulsion. The concentration of the fluid will be less than required and the dye (if the metalworking fluid is dyed) will be partially lost to the floating layer, leaving the fluid a lighter color than would be expected with a properly mixed fluid.[...] www.milacron.com/proper-mixing-practices/ [...] It is a general rule that concentrates should be added to the water last and mixed thoroughly. One way to remember the proper sequence of addition is to remember "O.I.L.", meaning "oil in last".[...] www.masterchemical.com/na_en/technical_information/tech_faqs.php www.dlindustrial.com/profiles/blogs/7-things-you-want-to-know [...]The first rule in mixing metalworking fluids is that you always add fluid concentrate to water -- not the other way around, unless instructed to do so by the manufacturer. Doing it this way ensures that the emulsifiers will properly suspend the oil in water, which is what you want to happen.[...] www.acculube.com/lubricant-best-practices.html
Again, When can end users start having an opportunity to purchase your knives? Your website has no contact access and is always out of stock with knives. What about resellers? A bit frustrating! Maybe need to streamline production so consumers can have an opportunity to own your knives instead of moving on to another maker. As well, I resorted to this media outlet because you have no contact option on your website. Come on guys!
Understandable and I really hope you can find a solution to your delayed production issues. Why not have Knifecenter or Blade HQ as your resellers as other Mid tech and custom knife makers are doing.I purchase mostly mid techs and customs and in the arena of people I talk to, we have almost given up on your knives and purchase other makers' knives. I think your production issues really need to be looked at. It really should not be a long term issue since your knives are not one offs.
The knifemaker has a contract with a certain reseller and then the knifemaker does not worry about filling individual orders. They make in batches that goes to the resellers like Knifecenter and BladeHQ. I just bought several Ramon Chaves American Made Redencion 228 Midtechs. He has none available on his website because he just concentrates on a few options of this knife and makes batches of them. Check out the midtech offerings with these resellers and this is how most knifemakers do this
Dude. He does not worry about his books with hundreds of individual orders. When he finishes a batch he sends them to the reseller. Did you check out Ramon Chaves like I indicated. And even so, Ramon's knives in some options have sold out too on Knicecenter and BladeHQ. Grimsno has nothing going out at all.
He would not always have the reseller stockede! He would have batches and when they are ready he ships. Then He does another batch. They will sell out too, but the resellers will have preorder and give customers at least a better opportunity to have a chance at his knives.
Mark Steven I worry that he got in over hios head. He now has to sell what I figure is over 500k dollars in knives to recover. Then again, he only has to appeal to less than 1% of the world population to get well over that...
John, with in the past year I have been laid off from my job. After several long discussions with my wife I decided to go back to school. After some thought I ended up choosing to get into CNC machining technology and I would like to thank you and your videos for helping me make up my mind on what way to go.
So excited to see this amazing machine doing its thing soon!
I know how excited you are... but you don't know how excited I am for you!!!! Pumped to see this baby in action and the videos you create with it!
As always, your enthusiasm and joy in you work makes these a joy to watch. Could you, perhaps, film your first production part on the Lathe?
Congratulations John,can not wait to see her run, very exciting!
Congrats John and what a beauty that is. Can't wait to see the parts turned out!!! Time to run some code now!!!
For the coolant get some copper tubing. Works great, you can bend it around your tools and everything.
If theres one single little piece of experience i want to pass along for lathe work its, only use loc line as an absolute last resort when running automatic, parts here and there onzie twozies its just fine but chips LOVE to pull those off and distroy tooling. whenever you buy or use a new tool holder bend a nice copper hardline to apply the coolant best you can, keep the lines hugging the turret and tool so there is as little chance the chips can push or pull them around as possible. for things like insert drills coolant pressure is absolutely critical for their survival.
crimson knifes
Holy cow, those servos are enormous.
ohhhh baby ! that a sweet looking lathe.
looks like it has lots of room to work on it and service it,everything seems to be laid out nice.
Can not wait to see it make chips with all it extremities haha.
Good work guys :)
Hi John. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Shaun from England and I am so impressed with all that you do within your workshop and the way yo have self taught yourself ie mills lathes. I love your videos so much. I am 50 years of age and as an older man who is very mechanically minded I am inspired by such a young man who has such a fantastic attitude to all you turn your hand to. In addition I love the fact you make family time at weekends and seem to truly have a fantastic balance between work and Family. Good on you.
John back in 1989-1994 I worked at Hygena Kitchen manufacturers running a Fanuc Six headed Heian Router making centre Panels and Profiles on Doors. I loved it but left to pursue a self employment in mechanical engineering. Now semi retired I would love to invest in a Cnc Mill- Lathe. I would be extremely grateful if you could give some advise as to what machine to start with and some direction as to software to use. Like you I intend to self teach myself but would like something forgiving to start with. I wish you all the best John, Eric and all your family from here in England. Cheers Sean.
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I would definitely look into a mist collector for that lathe. HP coolant and a lathe that place will be fogged up in no time.
With dual collets it won't be much of an issue. I used to run Super NTM3's at a previous job and they were fine with three turrets working at once.
How are you going to maneuver even a 4ft bar back there to load? Looks tight back there.
Amazing machine - Have lots of fun. Want to see the parts catcher filled.
Wicked cool! That's a machine. I read the comments in the last video if this was the right thing for you to do. Never mind that. You have yourself an awesome setup now, and what a progression from that little Sieg just a few years ago. That said, I hope you know what you are doing, financially. You're young and eager, hard work and brains goes a long way. Best of luck.
Might want to check level on the mill after setting the lathe up.
Lovely bit of kit, I wish you well with it!
YO!!! Mr Grimsmo :~) You have been keeping me in suspense with this new lathe.... it's been a month plus since your last video.... I think i speak for all your fans.... the suspense is killing us bro :~) Tell us how it's going :) a picture or two... possibly a rough video.... we want to share your excitement!!!! :)
I am so excited for the new machine Mr grimsmo
Start doing small example parts so you can get all you're setting's correct.
Please come back! My sad life has me hoping everyday I get a notification of a new video!
Oh, and I think you interchanged X and Y servo. I believe the lower servo is the Y axis which most likely works like a wedge that is pushed/pulled in and out. But I'm not 100% sure if thats how Nakamura realises their Y axis.
Was thinking about an old video u had about wood inlays. How about u first cut them to inlay size using the tormach and then use the saw to cut the thinness of inlays. That might work.
Man thats a real sweet tool ..hope your making screws for other companys also.
Congrats, John! Now you just need to squeeze a Waterjet in there and you'll be set!
+jonathon friedl if i get a waterjet then I'll need a double disc grinding machine and a lapping machine too, since those are the first and only 3 things we send out for.
Any issues with the new lathe? It's been a long time without any videos, so i'm just wondering if the new machine is already working.
Supercool video! What is the M-code for low pressure cool?? It will very help
Awesome vid john best of luck with the new lathe. hey is mc D's missing Eric I saw him trying to figure out how to make a Big Mac on it.
Man that thing is awesome!
Really like your knifes do you have a list if so how does one go about getting on it
great, now I want a lathe
I like the look of your knifes but the blade why that shape?
That's just too much fun. How do I buy a GK sticker for my 8-year old Tormach. I'm going to repaint it soon (rustier than yours was), and it's going to have some clean spots that could use some character.
when will you have knives available for end users?
so exciting! more content soon please!
Hey John. How is the AS200L? I am thinking about getting one for company.
Jhon u are so luck dude l have only one takisawa ex 108 u work very good machine
so cool, keen to see it in production ! PS I made my first 2 knives 2 weeks ago. Cut up an old circular saw blade to make some concept cheese knives. Really need a jig for getting the grind angles right (-:
will there ever be kmt?
Did the service tech have to perform activation on the control? Some multi-axis machines actually require this.
BTW you don't want to know how much that levelling tool costs. It's accurate to within a few arc minutes. Only the Wyler ones are better.
Holy shit, 8k$ for that Wyler levelling tool! Thank god I'll probably never have to buy this myself.
Oh and control activation by a service tech is pretty much standard right now, don't know which machining centers or lathes don't require it. It plays a pretty important role for warranty.
Can anyone help me!
What kind of fanuc post processor match up with nakamura late as-200l?
just like @mrliamcooley said, 6mm cobber pipe them thread the end and bend it and cut it, so it fits like you wont it to that's the way we do it at work.
So, um how much coolant does it have?
Awesome! By the way - I looked up the user manual for that LVM-01 levelling device; minimum reading of 0.01mm PER METER - that's crazy!
It seems like the tidal gravity of walking near the device could have an impact at that precision...yikes that is a cool gizmo.
How are you getting on John? Any more videos on the horizon?
+Chris Lesutis lots more coming, just been busy with the new lathe and production. Cheers!
When you have caught up on back orders, how can I buy one of your knifes? and Will you ship to the UK? Cheers
What a cliff-hanger!
Hi, how are you, are you okay? when you make a new video with the new cnc working, I can not wait to see it. I love your work, good job👍
if it's threaded then why not just make you own little threaded nozzle at the length, direction and aperture you want?
Did you use tap water this time
Hey, Grimso. How are you getting the bars into that spindle? Seems pretty tight behind the machine.
I was thinking the same... No room for bars / bar feeder?
Looking good!!!
The Norseman is my grail knife, hope I can have one someday.
hi ,no more video ? we would like to see your new toy in action !!!
Ok John it's been since sept since you last put out a video we all know you have a new toy and I think we're all dying to see how that new toy is working and what other neat things are going on with it. So buddie please not keep us in suspense any longer and let us see what's up. P.s. Don't take this the wrong way it's kinda a joke and kinda my own selfishness wanting to see the new lathe.
Hi John and Eric,
Why do you put up with a machine that has a dent in it direct from the factory, for this cost I would expect a perfect finish!?
I would say that a cosmetic dent that probably happened during shipping and moving isn't worth the hassle. You have to think of all the logistics of moving a machine that large. The time it takes, the money spent, etc. Not to mention how long they would be waiting just for a new machine without a dent they covered with a sticker anyway.
probably got a rebate for the dent anyways, it's purely cosmetic so who cares ?
Hi I hope you guys are going great. I tried to buy a few times but website still says sold out and I've had to settle for something else unfortunately. I don't make knives but I make metal artwork and do sell out on occasions but when I do I put a date on website when they will be available again. I'm no where as big as you guys just a small fish in the ocean, with only 50 subscribers on TH-cam and around 4000 on FB but I can understand how stressful it can be when receiving plenty of orders when all you want to do is complete current work. I would love to put name down or, Is there any chance of a deposit system? Love your work guys and look forward to watching the great videos. Cheers Rick Australia
why did you go with such a big machine instead of a swiss size machine?
because they make very small parts
false, they make up to 50mm bar, this guy is making 1cm size screws at most.
yes, I agree, they are making small screws. I have 2 cats also meowcats.
therefore he should not have bought such a large machine. Waste of money unless he wants to stop making knives and become a job shop.
I think he mentioned in an earlier video that this was the smallest machine he could get that had all the features he wanted.
Steps aside Grim, there's a new sheriff in town; NYC CNC with his $154,515.00 Haas VM3 5-axis rig.
hey i am just wondering how you guys got into cnc machining . iam looking into programs for bcit and i was wondering if you had any advice
Bcit - Msg me @ "475rq-5777570256 ==at== sale.craigslist.org"
Thanks for All the Great Vids., Do you really think it will take 9 Months for me to get my Rask ? Bob Clapper
Where are the new videos :)
Nice!
WHEN DO YOU LET US SE IT RUNNING AND USING THE SUB SPINDEL?? EXITED!! ITS BEEN TWO WEEKS!?!
Congrats
Awesome!
Wish you had videos every few days, this one took 12 days :(
Why are these knives so damn expensive? Damn near have to take out a loan to purchase one. When are we going to see more designs other than norseman?
Good night! How can I order Your knife? I'm from Russia. Thanks in advance!
Wait until your first "NT Nurse" alarm.
Oi! It's over a month! Come on, time for a new little video! Even a grind...
I would get away from those brass coolant balls you have if possible (might be the best for options wise). Reason being is that they have a tendency to spray the tool holder before the tool, wasting potential coolant, and when you cinch them down, they will eventually start to develop flats from the clamping mechanism so they become harder to move around for different setups (greater tendency to return to said that position). Loc line is awesome but they do have a PSI rating (unknown) as well as a flow rating (30 gph?), so they can be kicked around with high pressure. I wish I had a straight this is the best "product" answer but after my time trying to get it all figured out, I have concluded coolant lines are only best if they are considered a consumable to be replaced after x amount of time and wear, or the money is spent on coolant through tooling; awesome but VERY expensive.
M6! Metric thread mention! I am shocked
Don't mess with this one
lol,,a 4ft bar can still whip dumb dumb..depends on whats it made of and what rpm its going,,,duh
You should always pour the oil into the water and not like Eric did it. That's at least what our coolant sales guy always tells.
Looks like it's already mixed. The coolant we used in college looked like cooking oil but went white after adding water. Was pretty cool
As opposed to pouring the water into the oil? I don't think it really makes any difference how you mix the coolant as long as you mix it. To my understanding all you have to remember is to mix the coolant outside the machine and then pour it into the tank. Don't try pouring in the water and oil seperately.
[...]When adding “soluble oil” concentrate to water, the emulsifiers suspend the oil particles in the water, and will form the stable emulsion desired. If the water is added to the concentrate, the emulsifiers “release” part of the concentrate to “grab” for the water. This forms an “inverted emulsion”, causing parts of the fluid such as the lubricant package, biocide package or rust inhibitor package to be lost. Some or all of the chemical packages within the fluid may be affected. The mix stability, concentration, and the dye may also be affected by inverting the emulsion. The concentration of the fluid will be less than required and the dye (if the metalworking fluid is dyed) will be partially lost to the floating layer, leaving the fluid a lighter color than would be expected with a properly mixed fluid.[...]
www.milacron.com/proper-mixing-practices/
[...] It is a general rule that concentrates should be added to the water last and mixed thoroughly. One way to remember the proper sequence of addition is to remember "O.I.L.", meaning "oil in last".[...]
www.masterchemical.com/na_en/technical_information/tech_faqs.php
www.dlindustrial.com/profiles/blogs/7-things-you-want-to-know
[...]The first rule in mixing metalworking fluids is that you always add fluid concentrate to water -- not the other way around, unless instructed to do so by the manufacturer. Doing it this way ensures that the emulsifiers will properly suspend the oil in water, which is what you want to happen.[...]
www.acculube.com/lubricant-best-practices.html
cliff hanger
Again, When can end users start having an opportunity to purchase your knives? Your website has no contact access and is always out of stock with knives. What about resellers? A bit frustrating! Maybe need to streamline production so consumers can have an opportunity to own your knives instead of moving on to another maker. As well, I resorted to this media outlet because you have no contact option on your website. Come on guys!
+zero 4U getting this lathe will definitely help streamline production and increase output, it just takes time to grow things the way we want to.
Understandable and I really hope you can find a solution to your delayed production issues. Why not have Knifecenter or Blade HQ as your resellers as other Mid tech and custom knife makers are doing.I purchase mostly mid techs and customs and in the arena of people I talk to, we have almost given up on your knives and purchase other makers' knives. I think your production issues really need to be looked at. It really should not be a long term issue since your knives are not one offs.
The knifemaker has a contract with a certain reseller and then the knifemaker does not worry about filling individual orders. They make in batches that goes to the resellers like Knifecenter and BladeHQ. I just bought several Ramon Chaves American Made Redencion 228 Midtechs. He has none available on his website because he just concentrates on a few options of this knife and makes batches of them. Check out the midtech offerings with these resellers and this is how most knifemakers do this
Dude. He does not worry about his books with hundreds of individual orders. When he finishes a batch he sends them to the reseller. Did you check out Ramon Chaves like I indicated. And even so, Ramon's knives in some options have sold out too on Knicecenter and BladeHQ. Grimsno has nothing going out at all.
He would not always have the reseller stockede! He would have batches and when they are ready he ships. Then He does another batch. They will sell out too, but the resellers will have preorder and give customers at least a better opportunity to have a chance at his knives.
Tormach is producing a clone of this lathe for $29,995.00..........will be awesome!!!
Wait, seriously ??!?!?!
even if true, no use in this shop, too inexpensive.
Mark Steven I worry that he got in over hios head. He now has to sell what I figure is over 500k dollars in knives to recover. Then again, he only has to appeal to less than 1% of the world population to get well over that...
That machine is complete over kill x10 for what you're doing.
two kids!! jajajaj
lol ..if u can afford a million dollar lathe, u can get mastercam
Do you not make knives any more as you have put anything on your website for a year and you don't make any good knife videos any more!
is this channel dying?