I'm very blessed to have grown up studying Torah and Midrashim etc, so I'm familiar with a lot of this, but R Singer does weave it together so beautifully and his knowledge of the texts is impressive. I hope people appreciate how lucky they are to hear what he's teaching. He spent all his life learning to pass this on to others. 🙏💙🔯
@Abraham Mani: NOWHERE did God ever mention the name "Jesus" (NOR "Yeshua" that you constantly quote to us), NOR did He tell us that we need to be "saved", NOR did He tell us that he requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!) as atonement for our sins, NOR did He tell us to expect FURTHER SCRIPTURES after Mt. Sinai. You need to realize, accept and research for yourself, that the "NT" is absolutely NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, buy a Hebrew Bible (says "TANACH" on the cover) and learn from the Rabbis as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11. In the absence of the Temple, the Rabbis are our spiritual teachers.
@@Yce_Take it always says the L-rdd appeared to abraham or L-rd appeared to Moses. Then after we see that means he is about to make his presence known. After we see burning bush and Moses and gext says an angel in the fire Or Abraham who right after didn't instantly recognises the 3 men were angels and text later tells us explicitly angels
@@Yce_Take if they were all 3 together we might have to say why did it say 2 angels but they had split with 2 going thisbway and one not. You have tk understand that we have explicit unambiguous texts everywhere. No man can see me amd love. Multiple of straight out G-d s not a man. And my favourite right after my entire nation witnessed G-d'a giving commandments at Sinai G-d says ti take special note and remember thatvwr saw no image of him there. And here you come with torturous explanations full of ambiguity trying to argue. You need evidence as good as the unambiguous evidence we have t9 argue
thank you Ravtovia . I live in Nyeri in Kenya. i am very blessed through Rabbi Tovia Singer's teaching. HASHEM has blessed me in a mighty way . HASHEM bless my Rabbi Tovia Singer. kamuya ng'arua
@Abraham Mani like how you believe in paganism right ? I mean john 1:1 is regarded as a fabrication by scholars a verse that was added later on lmao your salvation is in vain come back to the true god of Abraham moses jesus and Muhammad peace be upon them
Love you rabbi. Don't know how you put up with blatantly ignorant people who use that to then boost their pride, but hey, you certainly must be doing your job right to be upsetting so many people. Thanks for showing us the Love of HaShem and His Written and Oral Torahs.
@Abraham Mani: You need to realize, accept, and research for yourself, that the "NT" is absolutely NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, and learn from the Rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11. In the absence of the Temple, the Rabbis are our spiritual teachers.
@Abraham Mani: You need to stop quoting from your twisted, mistranslated, taken out of context, bastardized, blasphemous "OT"!! It is NOT the word of God!! .
@Abraham Mani: God already TOLD us what we need to do, which is to CONFESS our sins to Him (and ONLY Him!), REPENT of those sins, and ASK Him for His forgiveness. NO dead criminal on a cross required!! God specifically told us that one man CANNOT die for another man's sins! The false, pagan, man-made "NT", where you get your indoctrination from, is absolutely NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. NO FURTHER scriptures were given to mankind after Mt. Sinai. PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "TANACH' on the cover), so you can see for yourself what God actually said to us at Mt. Sinai. Also extremely helpful to you would be Rabbi Singer's 2-vol. set of books "Let's Get Biblical - Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah?".
Thanks again. I've got to disagree regarding the moment Abraham saw the three men. Genesis 18:2 says, "And he lifted his eyes and saw, and behold, three men were standing beside him, and he saw and he ran toward them from the entrance of the tent, and he prostrated himself to the ground." This is clearly stating that from the moment he saw them he knew these were not ordinary men, thus bowing down to them seemingly rather immediately. I agree that something is missing in the text, but it is not when a transition from being aware that these three men were angels because the text implies that he knew rather immediately. I think what;'s missing is HOW he knew they were angels and HOW he was aware of it so immediately. Love your videos and your insight.
The old testament guys seems to be aware of qualities we arent aware of. Maybe they were extraordinary...physically...theres a special trait which they seem to spot and immediately know its an angel. Like how we see a woman and know its a woman and not a man
@@daphnedaph8003 😆😆 nowadays I get confused to know which is man and which is woman. On a serious note, did Lot know that they were angels? According to the NT he didn't know.
@@btrueeth The Angels appeared to look like men, as a test to the people of Lot who were gays and into men. They did failed the test and demanded those "men" aka the Angels to be with them. Lot offered them his daughters in an attempt to bring them back to the straight path. Only then the Angel revealed to Lot that they were Angels and came to destroy his people.
@Abraham Mani Yeah, for the people whom Jesus pbuh was sent for as Jesus clearly mentioned he was sent ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL. In the time of Moses pbuh, the only way you can get to Paradise is through Moses. In the time of Abraham pbuh, the only way you could get to Paradise is through Abraham pbuh. The only Prophet that has made a claim to come FOR YOU and ALL MANKIND (AND DJINKiND) is The Last Prophet, Muhammad pbuh. And only through his teachings one could get to Paradise.
One guy said to me: one of the angels was acctually God in man form. So I linked your video to him, however he wanted facts of the scripture. These Nasara(Christians),will never listen.
@@jeremiahhenley3407 Where do you think the scripture came from? The same people that transmitted this, transmitted these traditions. If you trust one, you have to trust the other. No? I mean I think they are both imperfectly preserved.
@@stevenv6463 No, because the written Thora was written down before Jesus, these traditions ("Oral thora") were written down after Jesus. The orthodox jews after Jesus obviously had an interest in interpreting scripture in a way that doesnt point to Jesus.
Of course we christians want evidence from the scripture. The scripture seems to indicate pretty clearly that one of the man was God in the flesh. How can God blame us to believe that?
Christians do not believe that the 3 men that encounter Abraham gives proof of a Trinity.. What the encounter does proves is that the “Lord” (Christians call him Christ or the second person of the God) visited him face to face.. Genesis 18 is not confusing, Abraham has a conversation with the Lord concerning Sodom and it’s destruction.. The Lord tells Abraham that HE, will not destroy Sodom if 10 righteous are found he (The Lord) will not destroy the city.. The Lord then leaves Abraham.. One of the three men.. This is not confusing
Exactly. I don't know who thinks that these 3 men are a presentation of the trinity. Me as a Christian always knew that the 2 men who visited the city were angels. Even in the translation it says "angels". It's not like Christians twisted the words.
Basically you need to be able to read Hebrew and or have someone who does and has no preconceived notions and doesn't read things into scripture teach you. No orthodox Jew would ever misunderstand these passages. The text is clear. Tou need to know who is talking to
Yes. Good comment. You need to record all yourbquesyiojs andbseel answers and if answers are not satisfying continue to seek them. As an orthodox jew from grade 4 in primary school we had hebrew onky text for this and hebrew only rashi. But i remember in late primary school age thinking up questions at night and asking rabbis and teachers after. I wanted to know what is with days when 4th day son and moon made and stuff like that
Rabbi… you say Genesis 18 is missing information.. This has to be your position so that it can fit your narrative of the events.. Moses wrote this chapter, and I am sure he penned the events the way they authentically happened.. Nothing is missing..
Who is the third one? Ex-plain the third one to me, two depart for Sodom... whois the one that stayed with Abraham? Couldnot be the Father, but he is called as haShem ? Who was that? Are we getting it?
Essentially the Jews and Muslims share the commonality with Abraham. However the religion of Abraham is Islam complete submission to Allah. The friend of Allah.
God clearly appeared to Abraham through angelic agency. If God can speak directly through prophets, how much more can He speak through His holy angels? The Hebrew Bible proves that the Messiah is the anthropomorphic arm of YHWH Himself revealed (Isaiah 53:1; 52:10; 59:16) rather than an alleged God the Son revealed. The Jews of old always believed that only the Father Himself is God.
In Josephus’s book antiques of the Jews he tells the story and writes that it was 3 angels and god’s presence one told Sarah about the baby then left and the other two went to sodom this proves that the pre rabbinic and early Christian interpretation was always 3 men and early Christians such as Jerome didn’t think it was important to change the manuscript to 2 Angels with one being god because they didn’t believe it was god but they did change one of Josephus’s books to say that Jesus was the messiah
(Genesis 18:1-8) "And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; {2} And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, {3} And said, 👉My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee (singular/1st person), from thy servant: 👈 {4} Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree: {5} And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said. {6} And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth. {7} And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it. {8} And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat."
if you believe in jesus as being el,s holy lamb...you are a son of god, if gods holy spirit lives within you.. if not, your dead in your sins, an trespasses.
Jesus is solely lamb, do you mean passover Lamb? Because Herr this is the passover Lamb. In exodus 8:21-22 "and pharoah said to Moses and aron saying go sacrifice ti yoir G-d in the land. But Moses said, "it is improper to do that, fir we will sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to G-d our L-rd. Will we sacrifice the diety of the Egyptians before their eyes and /hey will not stone us?" So later on when 9 of the 10 plagues had taken place God through Moses ibsteucts the people to kill and eat the Lamb. Told to sprinkle blood on door posts. I think now you may start to see what is going on. Going to have a 10th plague where first born gets killed. As you know the sngel of death passed over horses that had the blood on the door posts. Point is to kill and eat the false pagan G-d of the Egyptians. To showboat we fear G-d above fearing the Egyptians and their death penalty pf stoning us. So we make it public to them Notice as well this is not a sin, or repentance or atonement Sacrifice. Is a sacrifice of the righteous. This shows that they are worthy of the 10 plague to be carried out for them and to be taken out of Egypt. And we still have mezuza on oir door posts today with relevant scripture inside. Now much later this very foreign religion emerges called christianity. And we see at approx passover time (exacts date depends on which gospel you read) jesus is crucified. This has nothing to do with passover or passover Lamb. Knowing what I told you above please tell me how you ever intend to get Jews to think jesus is the passover Lamb? You must now realise that when we hear jesus is passover Lamb that we are heating that jesus is a pagan egyptian diety.
In the Christian N.T., the book called "Hebrews" at chapter 1:1&2, we are told that God spoke in the prior days to Israel through the persons of the prophets, but in these recent last days, He has spoken to us by a son. Even if Yeshua was the "Pre-incarnate Christ", which he isn't, the writer of Hebrews says he only began to speak to us now. That means that the Christian writer of Hebrews did not believe that God the Son came to visit Abraham. Trinitarians can't solve the problem of which of their four living Beings they identify as "God" came to eat with Abraham. Was it the person, God the Father, or was it the person, God the Son, or was it the person, God the Holy Ghost, or was it the "incomprehensible Divine Mystery" God, not one person but three, who came to Abraham? What a mess. It is the worst evil the church has inflicted on it's self. That is what happens when any religion "marries" the government and uses that power to "get their way". Please, my Christian friends and relatives, think! Stop believing stupid stuff. No matter what you think being dead means, GOD CAN NOT BE DEAD, not even for a few hours or days. Be careful where you put your commas when translating Greek into English. "I tell you today, you will be with me... " not "I tell you, today you will be with me..." Then be careful which words you capitalize. It is God's logos not God's Logos. At no place in scripture does God's word become a person. No, God's word comes to people and enters them. "I will put My words in his mouth". John is mistranslated and thus misunderstood to make us think that God's Word is Jesus incarnate in the flesh. Why is that not to be found somewhere in 66 books? Because it ain't true, that is why. I quit for now but I AM NOT done.
If the Trinity is real why would G*d make it a test of let’s see who can decipher this secret? Why wouldn’t the scriptures clearly say it. You know what the scriptures clearly say? That he is one and that he won’t give his glory to no other. You guys known what else doesn’t make sense? If the Trinity were true why would G*d care what form of him you worship? If he really is all three as long as you believe in one you still believe in him. But either way this is just a hypothetical example because I know the Trinity is not true. The law says he is one and nothing about three essence in one. The law also says listen to the true prophet. It doesn’t say believe in the death and resurrection of the Messiah for the forgiveness of your sins.
It is clear that calling God "the father" and "my father" and calling a righteous person "son of God" and calling a Prophet "God" and prostrating "worship" out of veneration and respect... All of these together spelled a recipe for deifying Jesus, especially by gentile converts learning about Jesus, after having left religions and cults that believe in godmen.
When God makes an appearance to Abraham, Moses etc,..it's called a theophany. So, either 3 angels manifesting themselves were visiting Abraham or 1 was a theophany of God and the other 2 were angels. Either way, it's not a trinity. Abraham wouldn't bow down intentionally to the ground if they were just angels because angels don't accept worship and would have refused him to do so. Abraham calls one Lord and not Lords. So, one is the Lord and the other 2 are angels
It definitely can seem confusing, but if you continue to read where Lot is speaking to them. You see in 19:1 that they are definitely angels. But if you look at 19:18 Lot states, "oh, not so, my LORD". So why is Lot calling them LORD? The rabbi is correct, these are 3 angels as Gods messengers. There is no reason the believe the one person who Abraham is with is God in flesh, if Lot continues to call these other 2 LORD also. That would make no sense. But It makes perfect sense that Abraham and Lot are both calling these messengers LORD if they are all Gods messengers.
I'm a Christian and I appreciate the insight from rabbi Singer, especially when it comes to his interpretation on how the word Elohim was applied to Moses and the angels and when others were addressed as if they were directly talking to God. I agree with his interpretation on those other passages and seems consistent to me, but I beg to differ when it comes to the entire account in Genesis 18. For example, in his example in Isaiah 7:10, the vessel of God through which He delivered His message is clearly identified as Isaiah in verse 3. In Exodus 7:1, the vessel is identified as Moses. When we notice this apparent contradiction is when identifying the vessel as not being God becomes hugely important and therefore we can conclude with a big amount of certainty that this is a vessel of God. Genesis 19 fulfills these criteria as angels are identified, therefore it is also reasonable to say that verse 21 chapter 19 reflects this same idea of vessels speaking on behalf of God and being addressed as such. Chapter 18 is very singular in my opinion; the third man speaks in first person as God, just like in the other examples but the singularity in this is that this third man is identified as Yahweh in verses 1, 22, 26 and 33, as opposed to how the other 2 are identified and I don't see strong reasons to apply the vessels interpretation to this, it contains very different elements and context. I hope whoever reads it can analyze this issue closely and discern which interpretation best explains the accounts.
Don’t you Christian’s ever consider the fact that the NT Never once uses this Genesis 18 theory. Never once. The NT writers would have jumped all over that if it was possible to use as a fulfillment citation. Get over it. The Genesis 18 theory that G-d came down in human form is desperate, and in a way, even anti Jew. You Christian’s hate Jews who will not convert. You’re all evil.
You're mixing things rabbi and the context of the Lord said when a man is talking is understood clearly by Christians that the man is not God. The trinity being a progressive revalation does not mean someone invented it later. An angel never accepts an act of worship such as a man bowing to them this is clear in Daniel. Two of the men where angel and one was the living word the same one Adam and Eve hid from in the Garden. The two angels are angels. The covering cherub are not a part of the trinity.
GOD blessed us with Rabbi Tovia speech. God Bless Him with strength . Well! christians should understand that they have the Bible to follow not the the church teachings?? May GOD bless All of us.
Tovia, I agree with your argument that Gen. 18 is definitely not the Trinity. I also agree that two of the men were angels as proved in Gen. 19. Where I disagree with you completely is in assuming that the one speaking with Abraham was also an angel. The Old Testament clearly states in Gen. 18:1 that "the Lord appeared." Abraham spoke to God and was glad. Gen. 18:33 says that after communing with Abraham, the Lord went his way." Check out the Hebrew for "Lord" in these verses.
Big contradiction if you believe all three were angels. Anyone reading Gen. 18 will learn that a conversation takes place with Abraham. The angels did not converse with the prophet, but left for Sodom (ch. 19). It was the Lord who stayed and conversed. It was the Lord who rained fire from heaven, etc.
He will write it off no matter what. Pretty easy to say every time the LORD appears and speaks it's an Angel. What language would they use if it was the Lord? Would it be identical to a Angel being called God because he is speaking on behalf of God? At the least he could say it could have been a Angel or God reading the language they use. It would be intolerable for him to say God as a person talked to Abraham, so he makes something up to cover it up. He would lose his job. Jacob himself said he wrestled God and he said 'he still lived' after seeing God in Genesis also. He did not make that kind of statement after he saw the Angels at Jacob's ladder. So obviously it was not a mere Angel. In Genesis Adam and Eve hid from God in the Garden because they heard his footsteps and then he personally cruses the snake. What would this guy say? It's one of the Angels finding them and on the spot judging, cursing all of humanity on behalf of God again? It's not logical.
The problem is The Angel of the lLord speaks as God in the first Person, he even turns his neck to face the speaker as if he is God as it says God turned to face him. Now the previous verse says it was the Angel of the Lord sitting there . So The angel Of the Lord turns to face the speaker and God turns to face the speaker. Yes some prophets were called God as you say but show me anywhere in the Bible that the Prophet speaks as God in the first Person . This would then corroborate your point. If you cant do this then you are trying to equate one scenario with another and they are completely different!
@@antoniopadro1760 Sorry, My Bad. I misquoted the verse. It's Gen 19:24 Then the Lord rained upon aSodom and upon Gomorrah cbrimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; God sending rain from The God in heaven. Who is the Yahweh sending rain from THE YAHWEH in Heaven?
@@cptarchangel257 nvm i see you're trying to point to the trinity somehow well then let's explain through scriptures shall we. Exodus 33:20-22 no man can see my face and live. Angels are messengers of God If Abraham saw God's face in genesis 18 then he wouldn't of lived
Trinitarian does not believe the 3 angels are for the Trinity. However, it is the 3rd one, the one that stayed in front of Abraham as the other 2 angels went to Sodom, is believed to be the Word of God ( Jesus ), because it is written Abraham stood before The Lord. Why is one of them considered to be Jesus ? Because He is also a Messanger that is literally coming of of the Father ( just as the Word of God coming out of God ). That is why Jesus forgive sins and give life to whomever He wants. Moses on the other hand, was potrayed as like God to Pharoah.
Than how come the NT never once uses this Genesis 18 “Jesus visited Abraham” theory? The NT would have jumped all over that if it was possible to use it as a fulfillment citation. This is a total con. Christian’s cannot stand Jews who refuse to convert. They come up with hundreds of things that the NT never uses. Rediculous. Every day I hate Christianity more. It’s sick, twisted and demonic. Jesus is in Gehinom.
God chose the Jews out of all other people on earth. If at any time during their 5000 year history the Jews ever believed that God was a trinity, that notion would have been carried down from one generation to the next to this very day. But they didn't, and it wasn't. The trinity is a Christian invention.
Israelites did believe in 3 Gods. Abraham, Moses, Jeremiah, Amos...etc etc. That's why you have most other pagan religions Trinity in them. Because they are all descendants of Noah's Sons. Who were scattered around when God confused the language. They all said the same stories but in different ways.
If a Christian wants to see the Trinity in the three angels that visited Abraham, who can really stop him - or her? People see what they want to see in Scripture, or in anything else, depending on their own internal biases and past conditioning. But I'm sure the Rabbi will offer up a good Jewish explanation for this passage of Scripture... Let me watch the video...
@Abraham Mani You quote well-known passages of New Testament scripture in support of your views, Mr. Mani, but you must remember that Jewish rabbis like Mr. Singer to not accept the New Testament as being sacred or authoritative. Obviously for you, the passages you quoted are foundational to your own personal belief system. Furthermore, your comment is a digression,, and is not really pertinent to the subject of the video - that is, the question of whether the three angels who visited Abraham actually foreshadowed the Christian Trinity.
i dont fallow rome.i dont put a tree,i dont say easter bunny, i dont believe mary was the mother of god... shes not queen of heave just because rome says so..no man has any way with god but his son. only by his blood does he sit at gods right hand...if you do not believe this, an do what he wills your lost..
@@mannymannyson6720 No, reading from the Tanakh it is clear that one of the three is the Lord. And if you continue through to ch 19 it clearly says the Lord on earth called down fire from the Lord in heaven.
Ok i admit that the verse in Genesis 18 was talking about angel's i just remembered what you said in an debate that just because their called God does not mean they are God , it means that they represent God but not that they are actually God, But in the Bible we see that there were multiple encounters of God's people with the Angel of the Lord , for example ,Judges 6:20-23 we see that Gideon was afraid that he was going to die because he had seen the Angel of the Lord ,
Yes as the Rabbi said, this concept of "shaliah" or the Jew Law of Agency is found THROUGHOUT the Hebrew Bible. There are at least 33 or so instances where the angel of the Lord appears to people; sometimes he is called God because he is a representative & instrument of Yahweh, and sometimes not. At the end of the day, an angel is an angel; not God. In fact, sometimes the angel of the Lord prays to God and cries out "O Yahweh Almighty!" (Zech 1:12). Even in Judges 6:12, the angel says to Gideon, "the Lord is with you, mighty warrior." He did not say "I myself am with you" because he himself was not the Lord. He was only a messenger of God (that is what the Hebrew word Angel/Malak means) My friend, even look at Moses in Deuteronomy 29:2-6. In the last verses of his speech to Israel, Moses proclaims "I am Yahweh your God!". He said it in first person. Yet we do not believe Moses was God. Only a Prophet of God, serving as his mouthpiece.
Abdul S., you state... "My friend, even look at Moses in Deuteronomy 29:2-6. In the last verses of his speech to Israel, Moses proclaims "I am Yahweh your God!". He said it in first person. Yet we do not believe Moses was God. Only a Prophet of God, serving as his mouthpiece." My response, wow, that is an amazing point. I have read this verse so many times but did not realize what I was reading till you pointed this out for me. Thanks.
@@jeremiahhenley3407what translation are you reading that from. I’m not looking to argue, I’m really not, I’m genuinely interested. Do you speak Hebrew. Is that a literal translation from Hebrew. I’ve looked in t three different translations (I Tanakh and two different Christian translations) and all three say “I am the Lord your G-d.
Revelation 3 :9 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Am I misunderstanding something I am reading 2 Angels the other one seems to be referred to as the Lord ? If I am wrong please give me verse it says 3 angels
My interpretation of Genesis chapter 18 is that in the story there was Abraham, Sarah, three angels/men and God. * We begin with God appearing to Abraham and Abraham seeing 3 men/angels and running towards them. - Abraham asked Sarah to prepare some food. - The men/angels ate with Abraham. - The three angels spoke to Abraham. - Then one angel said in verse 10; “your wife Sarah will have a son." And Sarah heard from the entrance of the tent, and it was behind him.” - Sarah laughed to herself (verse 12) not believing the angel. - Then in verse 13 God said “Sarah will have a son”. - Then in verse 16 the 3 men/angels stood up, they looked at Sodom, and Abraham walked with them. - In verses 17 to 21 God is speaking directly to Abraham. - In verse 22 the 3 men/angels leave to go to Sodom but God remains and Abraham stands before Him. - In verses 23 to 32 Abraham has a conversation with God. - In verse 33 the conversation is over, God leaves and Abraham returns to his home. * Since one Angel has completed his task of informing Sarah, that angel will eventually leave the situation by the end of the chapter on the way to Sodom - There are two separate events which lead up to Genesis chapter 19:1; A. An Angel leaves and now there are two angels/men left. B. The Lord departs from his discussion with Abraham. ** I have to establish two things to support my interpretation. 1. Are there any verses in Genesis where God speaks to Abraham directly? - Yes. Below I have listed and quoted from 35 verses where God speaks directly to Abraham. This establishes that God does not need an angel to speak to Abraham. - So, my view is that God is also speaking directly to Abraham in Chapter 18. 2. When an angel is done with their task, can the angel leave without an exit text in scripture? Again, yes. - In Genesis chapter 16: 6-12 an angel spoke to Hagar and when the conversation was finished, there is no exit language. The angel is just gone. - My view is that after the angel finished his task with Sarah, he left the situation. ** 35 verses where God speaks to Abraham directly with no angel. - Genesis chapter 12: 1-3 (Chabad) “1. And the Lord said to Abram, "Go forth from your land and from your birthplace and from your father's house, to the land that I will show you. 2. And I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you, and I will aggrandize your name, and [you shall] be a blessing. 3. And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you." 4And Abram went, as the Lord had spoken to him,” - Genesis chapter 13: 14-17 (Chabad) “14. And the Lord said to Abram after Lot had parted from him, "Please raise your eyes and see, from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward. 15. For all the land that you see I will give to you and to your seed to eternity. 16. And I will make your seed like the dust of the earth, so that if a man will be able to count the dust of the earth, so will your seed be counted. 17. Rise, walk in the land, to its length and to its breadth, for I will give it to you."” - Genesis chapter 15: 1, 4-5, 7, 9, 13-16, 18-21 (Chabad) “1. After these incidents, the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Fear not, Abram; I am your Shield; your reward is exceedingly great." “4. And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, "This one will not inherit you, but the one who will spring from your innards-he will inherit you." 5. And He took him outside, and He said, "Please look heavenward and count the stars, if you are able to count them." And He said to him, "So will be your seed."” “7. And He said to him, "I am the Lord, Who brought you forth from Ur of the Chaldees, to give you this land to inherit it."” “9. And He said to him, "Take for Me three heifers and three goats and three rams, and a turtle dove and a young bird."” “13. And He said to Abram, "You shall surely know that your seed will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and they will enslave them and oppress them, for four hundred years. 14. And also the nation that they will serve will I judge, and afterwards they will go forth with great possessions. 15. But you will come to your forefathers in peace; you will be buried in a good old age. 16. And the fourth generation will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites will not be complete until then."” “18. On that day, the Lord formed a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your seed I have given this land, from the river of Egypt until the great river, the Euphrates river. 19. The Kenites, the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, 20. And the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Rephaim, 21. And the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Girgashites and the Jebusites."” - Genesis chapter 17: 1-2, 4-16, 19-21, “1. And Abram was ninety-nine years old, and God appeared to Abram, and He said to him, "I am the Almighty God; walk before Me and be perfect. 2. And I will place My covenant between Me and between you, and I will multiply you very greatly."” “4. "As for Me, behold My covenant is with you, and you shall become the father of a multitude of nations. 5. And your name shall no longer be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham, for I have made you the father of a multitude of nations. 6. And I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make you into nations, and kings will emerge from you. 7. And I will establish My covenant between Me and between you and between your seed after you throughout their generations as an everlasting covenant, to be to you for a God and to your seed after you. 8. And I will give you and your seed after you the land of your sojournings, the entire land of Canaan for an everlasting possession, and I will be to them for a God." 9. And God said to Abraham, "And you shall keep My covenant, you and your seed after you throughout their generations. 10. This is My covenant, which you shall observe between Me and between you and between your seed after you, that every male among you be circumcised. 11. And you shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be as the sign of a covenant between Me and between you. 12. And at the age of eight days, every male shall be circumcised to you throughout your generations, one that is born in the house, or one that is purchased with money, from any foreigner, who is not of your seed. 13. Those born in the house and those purchased for money shall be circumcised, and My covenant shall be in your flesh as an everlasting covenant. 14. And an uncircumcised male, who will not circumcise the flesh of his foreskin-that soul will be cut off from its people; he has broken My covenant." 15. And God said to Abraham, "Your wife Sarai-you shall not call her name Sarai, for Sarah is her name. 16. And I will bless her, and I will give you a son from her, and I will bless her, and she will become [a mother of] nations; kings of nations will be from her. "” “19. And God said, "Indeed, your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you shall name him Isaac, and I will establish My covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his seed after him. 20. And regarding Ishmael, I have heard you; behold I have blessed him, and I will make him fruitful, and I will multiply him exceedingly; he will beget twelve princes, and I will make him into a great nation. 21. But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you at this time next year."
@@bb1111116if G-d spoke plainly to Abraham without the agency of an Angel (or a dream or vision) than you can throw the Torah into the toilet. Why? Because it is a clear verse in the same Torah (Numbers 12:6) that says otherwise. Only Moses had that privilege (to hear Hashems words plainly spoken without the agency of an Angel or vision or dream), according to Numbers 12:6.
@@noahroad6577 ; it is important to see the verses in Numbers 12:1-8 in context. - First, there is no mention of angels in Numbers 12:1-8. - With Numbers 12:1, Aaron and Miriam are criticizing Moses about this wife. All three are awake. - In Numbers 12:4, God joins the discussion and tells Moses, Aaron and Miriam to go to the tent of meeting. They are still awake. - With Numbers 12:6-8 God explains to Aaron and Miriam that God communicates with them and others through visions or dreams. They are awake and so Aaron and Miriam are experiencing a vision from God. God then explains that God speaks to Moses with more clarity (not with riddles) and that Moses can see God more clearly. * Back to Abraham, God spoke to him in a vision as he had spoken to Aaron and Miriam in Numbers 12:4-8.
@@noahroad6577 ; My detailed comment to you has been blocked. A summary. it is important to see the verses in Numbers 12:1-8 in context. - First, there is no mention of angels in Numbers 12:1-8. - In Numbers 12:1-8, Aaron and Miriam are awake and are experiencing a vision from God. - With Numbers 12:4, God tells Moses, Aaron and Miriam to go to the tent of meeting. - With Numbers 12:6-8 God explains to Aaron and Miriam that God speaks to Moses with more clarity (not with riddles) and that Moses can see God more clearly. * Back to Abraham, God spoke to him in a vision as he had spoken to Aaron and Miriam in Numbers 12:4-8.
I'm the one HE stood over with my sister"wisdom", and said, this one is beloved and will close HIS books. So the values in their words are not to them. As David said of my family. To save them for what I've done. To ensure the words fell not short.
There was a Hasidic Rabbi who explained that the Holy Spirit represents the Spirit which may have a higher morality in ourselves than even the Law, if that person is spiritually higher than others. The Father represents God the Father and the Son represents ourselves-the soul. Something to that effect. It's a Rabbinic kind of code that Jesus expounded and it was misinterpreted.
John 1:1 God becomes Man. Romans 14:9 Man becomes God. Coming Soon.... God becomes Woman, Woman becomes God. God the Father, God the Daughter, God the Holy Ghost.
*The guests received by Abraham and visited Lot that is mentioned in Genesis (from the current Torah) were angels. This is the belief in Judaism and non-trinitarian Christians. Allah chooses from the angels, messengers and from men. Surely, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing. (Al-Quran 22:75) *In the Quran, the guests are referred to as Messengers: And certainly did Our rusul (messengers) come to Abraham with good tidings; they said, "Peace." He said, "Peace," and did not delay in bringing a roasted calf. But when he saw their hands not reaching for it, he distrusted them and felt from them apprehension. They said, "Fear not. We have been sent to the people of Lot." (Al-Quran 11:69-70) *And the guests did not reach for the food being served. And his Wife was standing, and she smiled. Then We gave her good tidings of Isaac and after Isaac, Jacob. She said, "Woe to me! Shall I give birth while I am an old woman and this, my husband, is an old man? Indeed, this is an amazing thing!" They said, "Are you amazed at the decree of Allah ? May the mercy of Allah and His blessings be upon you, people of the house. Indeed, He is Praiseworthy and Honorable." (Al-Quran 11: 71-73) *Angels informing the coming of a newborn child is consistent with angel Gabriel announcing to Mary about her future son, Jesus and an angel informing Zachariah about his future son, John (Yahya), both incidents mentioned in the current gospels and in chapter Maryam (Mary) of the Quran. They said, "O Lot, indeed we are rusul (messengers) of your rabb (lord); [therefore], they will never reach you. So set out with your family during a portion of the night and let not any among you look back - except your wife; indeed, she will be struck by that which strikes them. Indeed, their appointment is [for] the morning. Is not the morning near?" (Al-Quran 11:81) *The guests identified themselves to Lot as messengers. [Abraham] said, "Then what is your business [here], O messengers?" They said, "Indeed, we have been sent to a people of criminals, Except the family of Lot; indeed, we will save them all Except his wife." Allah decreed that she is of those who remain behind. (Al-Quran 15:57-60) *Abraham referred to them as messengers. Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as arbaban (lords). Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims? (Al-Quran 3: 80) Allah - there is no ilah (deity/god) except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of existence. He has sent down upon you, the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Injil. Before, as guidance for the people And He revealed the Criterion (Qur'an). Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution. (Al-Quran 3:2-4) *The original Torah was revealed to Moses and the original Injil was revealed to Jesus. The word Injil is closer in pronouciation with the word Gospel in other languages. The Quran is the most recent Revelation and is the Criterion.
God is only one. God sent messengers. God is not a messenger. Jesus was a messenger from a long line of messengers. Messengers are chosen from men to convey message to men. The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. (Al-Quran 5:75) Their messengers said to them, "We are only men like you, but Allah confers favor upon whom He wills of His servants. It has never been for us to bring you evidence except by permission of Allah . And upon Allah let the believers rely. (Al-Quran 14:11) God sent Jesus. God is not Jesus. Allah chooses from the angels, messengers and from men. Surely, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing. (Al-Quran 22:75) There are angel messengers He sends down the angels, with the inspiration of His command, upon whom He wills of His servants, "Warn that there is no ilah (deity/god) except Me; so fear Me." (Al-Quran 16:2) Angel Gabriel is referred to as The Spirit. And mention, in AlKitab (the Book), Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place toward the east. And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Spirit (Angel Gabriel), and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man. She said, "Indeed, I seek refuge in the Most Merciful from you, [so leave me], if you should be fearing of Allah ." He said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy." She said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?" He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.' (Al-Quran Translation/interpretation Chapter Mary/Maryam(19) : 16-21) Gabriel identified himself to Mary as "the messenger of your Lord". The story of Gabriel appearing before Mary(Maryam) to inform her about her future son (Jesus/Isa) is also mentioned in the bible. Angels have wings. [All] praise is [due] to Allah, Creator of the heavens and the earth, [who] made the angels messengers having wings, two or three or four. He increases in creation what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. (Al-Quran 35: 1) God sent angels. God is not an angel. It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allah," rather, "be rabbaniyyun, because you are teaching the Book, and you are studying it." Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as arbaban (lords). Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims? (Al-Quran 3:79-80) There are angel messengers There are human messengers. God is only one. God have no son. God is not one third of three. God is not a messenger. God sent messengers. Indeed, Allah is but one ilah (deity/god). Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. (Al-Quran 4:171)
Genesis 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
Between us three we hit every prophecy. He or Christ staged the false god and the peril of following another a door was given and they took it. Mine being named Lord from the womb and Yeshurun later meaning upright Lord have had a terror of our own. So don't feel alone but Christ is the path of death and I'm in this carrying the debts left behind. Words that did not immediately occur so prophets... Hmm I sent it out what a prophet looks like. Coming out of fulfillment? Are we done yet? When shall we hey be thrusted out? Because if they are what's standing in the way of a clear path. Well whenever you're ready I say. Otherwise let's get on track. I know some positions are not meant for the reckless who have no backing from GOD. They seek answers from the devil and the Vatican. Same place same source where he started. We know one thing. It's time to work out the lies. Free we are from those chains. My duty isn't complete yet. Or is it? Different in the latter days. Christ was the cost of adding books. False god,idolatry, wooden carved images, poison and all else that is full on evil. He is death. We served a defying path. Defying our own goodwill and understanding to suffer what we otherwise wouldn't of done. Foolish love? IDK I just know neither he or I are GOD. Lessons. Power of words. Reliable is the one of suffering in use of power only when used not alone but relying on the source of power. So much is mine that I'm at bay. But move I will suddenly and complete what's opened. Their Pandora's box. Take a sure way. Take nothing of GOD's glory. The king is the Messiah and Christ didn't set you free with GOD by being directed by GOD. He is who he said he was not who GOD said he was. In order we came. What's eternally blessed? Mercy not sacrifice? I sure hope that stands. I hate killing or the idea of it. It must have to occur. Otherwise use the loyalty ways and instruct well. Shalom
Rabbi Tovia Singer how do you do it?? i mean after all these years still saying these things, Defending the Torah. Dont you get tired and want to go home to your family?? i Would just go live my life. I dont envy you. Or God made you for this. I would lose my mind.
They usually teach that this was somehow the Son of Man, or in their view Jesus and two other angels. Or sometimes they say that Michael the Archangel is really Jesus and he was with Gabriel and Uriel.
This is the same reason why the Gospel of John says "and the Word was God". Not because Jesus (the Word) was ontologically God (like the Greeks, and Trinitarians, and "deity of Christ" people think), but because, like the Rabbi says a few times in this video "the prophet who is carrying out the will of God can be called God". In word and deed Jesus, the human Messiah (the biblical Messiah Jesus, not the Roman-Byzantine god-man), carried out the will of God.
Yeshua or Christ never present with HASHEM. Always dark ones or my sister who left and he began speaking. The sell caused by experience I was yet to find I had to fight for myself also. A demon is christ
So do you remove God's name and translated with the name where do you get the right to change scripture you talk about gentiles or Christians you changing the Old testament which by the way your auntie wasn't written until 7th century
No, but they can appear in human form. Same for demons. But the main difference between Angels and demons, Angels can only do what God tells them to do as they have no free will, but demons can do whatever they want as they are creation like human - with free will. Satan is from the djin kind (the unseen often being credited to supernatural, paranormal activities) not Angels, that's why he can disobey God's command. There's 2 kind of Djin, one that actually follows the religion of the human Prophet of their time and one that follows Satan. Magic is the work of these unseen being. Light magic from the "good" djin, while black magic from the bad djins aka demons. Human who dabbles in magic often use rituals to call these unseen beings without understanding of their nature, and call it many names.
And that is from Islamic belief, I think in Jewish tradition, Satan is an Angel who only obey God's order. And in Islamic belief, Satan was a being of smokeless fire (the Djinkind) who was the most righteous among his kind, until God raised his among the Angels in Heaven. But when Adam was created, all the Angels bowed down to Adam as God's commanded, but Satan being with free will, disobeyed God and questioned his being from fire thus superior than human created from dirt and clay.
@@nutzhazel we don't believe that. No demons thwt goes away ftom monotheist belief. Same for dhajjal thqt isba dualist idea. You laws of shirk are perfect I am disappointed in islam to see they adopted the dyakosy dhajjall idea
Toviah did not answer this question correctly , the question is not about trinity, the question is , why 3 angels (men) came to Abraham but then 2 angels(men) leave for Sodom but one Angel stays with Abram, than Abraham has a conversation with the remaining Angel as a conversation with God? Gen 18:22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD (YHVH)Gen 18:33 And the LORD(YHVH) went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place. Gen 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; Gen 19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it. Who was the 3rd Angel YHVH? Why did the 3rd Angel appear to Abraham as a man?
But you are leaving one thing. the other 2 Are not Angels. Read before the 2 men went down to Sodom. Yahweh Himself was speaking and said Im going down Read, Gen 19:4
I reject the Trinity and believe in one God. Why are you not addressing Gen 18:22 where Abraham remains standing before YHWH (one of the three men)? We know the other two are angels. The Tanach doesn't state there were three angels, but three men, two of which are called angels in Gen 19:1. Did YHWH take on immortal, human form? If so, did He leave all of heaven to appear before Abraham? I believe HaShem is omnipresent, for He is Spirit. Why, then, could He not, by His Spirit, be begotten of the flesh (a temple of mortal flesh), in order to sacrifice Himself as the Lamb? (Acts 20:28)
Genesis 19:24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; Who is the Yahweh sending rain from THE YAHWEH in Heaven?
@@cptarchangel257 I think it's simply repeating the same thing: Then YAHWEH rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire, so the brimstone and fire was from YAHWEH out of heaven.
@@adeliawilliams4884 It's not repeating...Check other verses to understand the God of Israel. Who are 3. David writes " My God said to my Lord, sit at my right hand" My God is Yahhweh God, My Lord is Jesus who is sitting at the right hand of God.
There is a Trinity, if you take the inner meaning. The One flows down into a triune stream. Abraham is right column, Issac is the left column, Jacob is the center column. Akedah, the right binds the left, so that the center channel can emerge. Moses, Aaron, Joseph, the next triad. In music you can not have a chord without a triad of 3 notes, such is the nature of creation.
😆 so abraham cannot determine if the 3 are angels or God. ...while Lot knows that his guests are angels... 😆. I need an eyeglasses... Hmmm I just wonder why those angels accepted the worship of Abraham.. 😆
LOL i see just take that. Except thay then if you ignore that it says angels or anything else you are going against what is written We learn by reading all that whenever it says 'The Lord appeared to someone' that G-d is about to make his presence known. Says that with Moses rhen right after we see the text say an angel in the fire And here right after he has 3 angels visit and text tells us they're angels. Now dont go against what is written.
It actually makes more sense from a Christian view to believe those visitors were not G-d since like Jews, Christians acknowledge what both faiths call G-d is a spirit.
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The way they dress and like those you meet and feel connected. They are like that. I've met them those on high and GOD formally before this. In the womb my hearing HIM layer seeing HIM while teething. It was HIS voice I remembered and I leaped inside with joy and my gift of memeu or your seeing eye that's not vision I see but know and we work together. We curve together we build together and we remove together. In the grand scale this is worked on together. Like it was with Moshe it is now. I however had hell and shame and all else to carry. It appears they had bitterness in prophecy to state another was to come. Sad but I still forgive this. What had to be has had to be.
It’s not a reference to the Trinity. The scripture shows that one of the men is the Lord and the other two are angels. “Now God appeared to him near the oak of Mambre, while he was sitting at the door of his tent at midday. And looking up with his eyes he saw, and see, three men stood over him” -Gen 18: 1, 2 “Then the Lord went away, when he had left off speaking to Abraam, and Abraam returned to his place” -18:33 “Now the two angels came to Sodoma at evening, and Lot was sitting beside the gate of Sodoma.” - 19:1a It’s right there. There’s no reference to trinitarian teaching in the Hebrew Scriptures. It’s just not there. But to show you I’m a good sport I actually quoted the Septuagint to show it’s not even there in the ancient Christian Bible. The church fathers were just liars basically.
The Torah is the Tree of life (Proverbs 3:18). Not sure where your "the fruit of" comes from. The NT is in the same category as the Illiad, the Vedas, and the Ainulindale and Valaquenta.
If the pole with the serpent is the cross than could it be correct to say the new testament is the "Tree of Knowledge of good and evil" from the garden in Genesis ? Fruit is the individual perception one would get from reading Torah.
+ChiliMcFly1 As an analogy to your suggested interpretation: If 42 tasted purple, then could it be correct to say that the square root of a peanut butter jar is a jellyfish?
sorry you lost me at purple. I believe we all have our own relationship with G d. So when we each read the Torah there who be what the spirit and ourselves through meditation with G d can build on that relationship. We should grow and gain in wisdom and understanding.
Rabbi you are correct god does not change his nature but he does change his form - when Abraham met Melchizdek the great high priest without father without mother no beginning of days, that was Christ the theophany now that theophany became flesh in a temple called JESUS
Melchizedek is shem the son of Noah. Uou just attributed alot to the guy and it says nothing like that in tanach aboit him. On fact I checked with my Evan shoshan hebrew concordance and he only appears that one time in genesis and once in psalms. You certainly can't be using the chridtian bible to try tell us stuff aboitbtanach's characters. Not when we are here trying to prove the Nt false or true
@@threshingfloor8591 'Ours' , 'US' denotes plurality. Are u saying the the G-d of the Hebrew Scriptures is more than one and in essence that there are more than one G-d ?
At 25:00 did u hear tovia singer start talking about Africans living in Egypt? He knows the Hebrews were black hence why moses was able to live in the house of pharaoh until he was 40! These people are slick
Angels can appear as men if they want to for the purpose ofbwhatever their mission is and the text says angels outright. Don't argue with the text about what the text says.
However, you are not completing the name of our Lord. Yahushua Mashiach or Mashiach Yahushua משיח יהושוע Eliyahu=אליהו Yahushua= יהושוע Yahuhah=יהוה The Mashiach Ben Yahuhah = האל משיח בן יהוה = 112 Adam = אדם=18 Eve = חוה = 19 Yahuhah = יהוה =26 63 מישך = 63 משיך ששש = 63 Revelation Chapter 11 שני הזיתים=112 Milk = חלב = 22 King = מלך = 44 66 books of the Bible 23/23 chromosomes each parents is 46 112 האל משיח בן יהוה אהיה אשר איהיה אליה and Honey = ודנש = 33 חלב = 22 55 Only 3 ancestors with gematria of 55, one pre flood, one post flood. Are you man enough to find out? 5, 13, 21 = 39 משה 1-22 Son of Adam is 23
The doctrine of the Trinity is entrenched throughout the Old (Tanakh) and New Testaments. Man is in the image of God, and too is a trinity, spirit, soul and body.
Hermes is a God and an Angel, so with a trinity your argument doesn't work just as it would not with Greek religion. However, I have a big fish for you to fry. Ehyeh means "I am", literally the first person singular "to be" Yahweh means "He is", literally the third person singular "to be" "And Elohim(Great Gods) said unto Moses, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh(I am who I am) [in other words Elohim said don't ask who I am]: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Ehyeh hath sent me unto you. And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Yahweh Elohi(He [who] is Great Gods of) your fathers, Elohi Abraham, Elohi Isaac, and Elohi Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my nature for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations." - Exodus 3:14-15 the problem is that unity can make a group into a singular entity even tho it is plural in nature. El Elyon is Father of [the] Elim(Gods) ("When Elyon gave the nations as an inheritance, when he separated the sons of man, he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of El. For Yahweh's portion was his people; Jacob was the lot of his inheritance". - Deuteronomy 32:8-9 in the Dead Sea Scrolls) Jesus was the Ba'al of Israel, but is later retitled as Ish. (see: Hosea 2:16, Isaiah 54:5, Deuteronomy 32:9) But note that I don't believe in Christian Biblical version of Jesus. Ruach HaKodesh is named Chokmah/Wisdom in the book of Proverbs, but Ruach HaKodesh is a sevenfold spirit according to Christians.
When are You going to stop that?? I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now salvation and strength and the kingdom of God and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren who accused them day and night has been cast down." That night the king could not sleep. So One was commanded to bring the book of the records of the Chronicles, and they were read before the king. So let His robe and horse be delivered to the hand of one of the king's most Noble princes, that he may array the man whom the king delights to honor..Then parade him on horseback through the city square and proclaim Indonesia , or I forgot to mention that the episle to the Hebrews was given to The Jews to be recorded in the Law of the Persians and the Medes, so that it will not be altered, as to allow the whole book of Daniel to call herself a prophettess... (( For I was also delivered from the mouth of The Lions , but not with the mandate to raise up a mother in Israel as 5 Judges 😪😴 for " As I live" says the LORD God, surely in this place where the king dwells who made him king, whose oath he despised and whose covenant he broke - with him in the midst of Babylon he shall die ))
I don't how in the world this guy is a Jewish rabbi. He has no problem to butchering the Bible to disprove Christianity . It's ok to oppose us but at least be honest in your approach . Genesis 18 and 19 are the clearest chapters in the Bible about the multi personality within the being of God . It's true that some Christians run into a misreading of the texts to conclude that theses 3 men are the one true God because both Abraham and Lot address them as Lord. But the vastly majority of qualified Christians scholars understand that is not the case. A close reading of the texts shows that one of the men is God and the 2 others are angels as simple as that. The argument is over when we get to Genesis 19:24 when the God on earth drew fire from the God out of heaven . A literal interpretation goes like this : 2 Gods one on earth and one in heaven.. to make sense of the shema the doctrine of the trinity is the solution.one God 3 distincts persons.
*Sonny blaise:* So you know ZERO about the original Hebrew of God's ETERNAL Torah, and you DARE to disparage an extremely learned man such as Rabbi Singer??!! What unbelievable, self-righteous arrogance!! God ABHORS human sacrifice, therefore He did NOT have "Jesus" murdered to 'pay for people's sins' - this is preposterous, and is a HUGE insult to God. He DID NOT say anywhere in the Hebrew Bible (His ETERNAL Torah, given to Moses at Mt. Sinai) that he requires HUMAN blood to pay for sins! PLEASE do some honest research on the origins of Christianity FOR YOURSELF, and you will discover that it did NOT come from God, Creator of the universe.
Genesis 19:24 King James Version 24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; Yahweh rained sulpher FROM THE YAHWEH IN HEAVEN? Who are the 2 Yahweh's?
In their own texts, the jews were and are so stiff neck. they were only whipping boys to see what happens when you disobey God. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER!!! Have they changed? NO! Isaiah 6:9-11 9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. 11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,
Trinity is just a word a word that helps us to know that Yahweh speaks through his son Jesus the living true word coming out of Jesus words is our God we will call him Mighty he's our King Jesus he is God in the flesh God With Us
*Edila Lewis:* Not a good idea! God ABHORS human sacrifice, therefore He did NOT have "Jesus" murdered to 'pay for people's sins' - this is preposterous, and is a HUGE insult to God. He DID NOT say anywhere in the Hebrew Bible (His ETERNAL Torah, given to Moses at Mt. Sinai) that he requires HUMAN blood to pay for sins! PLEASE do some honest research on the origins of Christianity FOR YOURSELF, and you will discover that it did NOT come from God, Creator of the universe.
Genesis 19:24 King James Version 24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; Yahweh rained sulpher FROM THE YAHWEH IN HEAVEN?
Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through? This verse always made me wonder why Christians worship differently than Jews. I was born into a Christian family. I have read the bible my whole life. I have found home only this past week and I have found the truth and repented. I continue to weep in sorrow the years that have been lost. May HaShem have mercy. Thank you for all your videos Rabii Singer. I have devoured these words as a starving soul. God bless you.
He plays a lot of games, he is known for this don't misjudge Christian faith based on the heresies of one respected Rabbi. This is the same Rabbi that lies and says that Jacob is named Israel because it means "wrestled with God" since He wrestled with God, this is a lie. This is the same Rabbi that says Abraham was sacrificing Isaac to God and God intervened. Wrong and Wrong. He is filled with lies.
Kate Usera many blessings to you!!! Same for me two months ago!! I've spent 40 years in complete idol worship! HaShem did not give any of us a religion. He gave us a covenant and a choice! I'm so thankful to finally know! Shalom!
Uchiha Shisui sir/ma'am, please ignore this Rabbi and his followers, they spread nothing but lies and mistruth. He has never produced anything that has worth on his channel, he prostitutes God's Word for Muslims but then turns around and trashes Christians which is another sign of his gross manipulation and twisted-ness. The end of the covenant is marked by the Messiah. Tell me, what is the point of New Jerusalem? How does a person (Jew or non Jew) become an immortal citizen of that city like it says in Ezekiel? I will not bother you if you answer me that question, In the Name of Jesus the Christ.
Oh, I didn't know you were from a Hindu background. Aha, you are Muslim. Did you know Rabbi Tovia Singer shills for Muslims? That is why you are comfortable with him. Muhammad is one of the first false prophets Jews will mention. Tovia Singer lives in a muslim country and has to watch what he says for the sake of his life. I can show you brother Islam cannot be true, without disrespect of course. Are you Sunni or Shia?
So you are Sunni muslim. In Islam, Allah is one, he is one being and he is a spirit/ruh in arabic. Allah is on the throne in the spiritual realm and he has never left or moved etc. But where is Muhammad right now? In barzakh?
I wonder that too! Hahaha plus, simple math, you have God's presence in the tent and 3 men standing outside the tent. So what, now we have a quadrinity? I tell Christians this sometimes and I'm met with "that's stupid " I ask why, it fits your beliefs perfectly you believe that these 3 guys are the trinity and you have God in the tent, so elementary school math, 4 beings. Hahaha they don't like that their proofs are not proofs but rather complete misapprehensions.
@@hitoshura2800the three men are not the trinity one of them was God Abraham bowed to one and called him Lord the other two where angels. Then he asked the same one to spare sodom. When Daniel bowed to the angel it was forbidden. Why is it this angel accepted Abraham bowing. Father son and holy spirit have never appeared together on earth as a trinity but every time every man had an encounter with God physically or visually this was an encounter with the living word the sam one that walked in the Garden in Genesis 3.
Thank you Rabbi Singer for this amazing session. Not only you make things clearer but also strengthen my faith in HaShem and make me want to read Torah more. And I thank you for your patience in dealing with the idol worshippers who call themselves Crisstians. HaShem has blessed you with such patience trying to teach the truth to people who are not only blind but also def but not muted. So Mashiach now to mute them all!
@@Yce_Take And may I please ask kindly not to spell ineffable name like that. It’s a holy name for the Jews and the Noahides as unless your mouth, hand, pen, internet, and the audience is holy you are profaning his name. Instead if I may suggest call him HaShem means “The Name”.
@@Yce_Take So what is your question? I watched this video a year ago. Not sure what is that you are not understanding. Sorry just need you to provide little more background
@@Yce_Take You’re dangerously confused dear. In Genesis 18:19 it says “For I have singled him out, that he may instruct his children and his posterity to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is just and right, in order that the LORD may bring about for Abraham what He has promised him.” . Meaning Gd singled out Abraham because, knowing Abraham, our ancestor, he was very good at teaching, and Gd wanted Abraham to teach his instructions (which believed to be part of Oral Torah- Torah is the 5 Books of Moses:Genesis,Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy) Let’s disect the sentence “that he may instruct his children and his posterity to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is just and right,” His children and his posterity. What does posterity mean? Future generations of people or the descendants of a person. So let’s apply Jesus here. If Gd singled out Abraham out of all peoples in the entire world and place his name in his Torah we must make sure to say Abraham peace be upon your name. So Abraham was singled out for what responsibility? “That he may instruct to keep the way of the LORD” Look at this!! How brilliant is my Torah! Not even one single unique mentioning of the name Jesus. Go watch Ceasar’s Messiah. So Gd in fact says, that he singled out Abraham to instruct his children and posterity to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is just and right, in order that the LORD may bring about for Abraham what He has promised him.” . Not Jesus! Nope Gd doesn’t mention Jesus’ name once in a book made of 304805 letters. Good night 💤🌙😴
Exactly Rabbi Singer. This is good basic common sense. They were Shelosh Elohim (3 High Administrators, i.e. Lords) not the false father, sin, spirit trinity of confused Christians.
Bible reading outreach. Sir perhaps you can clarify vour reasons for devoting your entire childish diatribe to assualt the Rabbi's character. You do not even know hm sir yet you pass moral judgement on him. You should have listened to his points and then put forward your points. Painstakingly obvious you need to grow up
@@altinokz wow wake up sister pay attention a bit. There are a multitude of comments. One was from a trinitarian attacking the dear Rabbi, That is who I was talking to in response. It was quite obvious had you taken the time to figure it out.
@@freefree526 I found with Trinitarians it's a defense mechanism and it's their reaction because it shacks up their faith because many of them deep down have doubts of the trinity but have fears and were conditioned into fear that if they deny the trinity they will destined to hell.
Read the Genesis 18 and 19 by yourself !!! Abraham was talking to the God YHWA himself while the 2 angels went to destroy Sodom and Camorra! Tovia is taking nonsense!!
@@mohammedariffinadenan6250 Take a rabbinic translation if you doubt the others and check with the original!!! In the Original is the Name of God used as יהוה ז YHWA!!! In translation would be Lord! Take any translation an read by yourself to whom Abraham was talking to ??? No translation changes the meaning!!! Check by yourself!! The rabbi is fooling those ignorant as you are !!
@@mohammedariffinadenan6250 What is "hungry" ghost ? Ones Tovia gave an excellent example to how to train people who are working in the banks to recognize the counterfeit money? They teach them how the REAL money look like !!! The rabbi is talking to convince those like you who do not know what the Christians teach and what is exactly written in the Bible, that's why those like you cannot detect the lies!!! But i did not just told you to believe me, but told you to SEARCH!!! This is what Jesus said: "SEARCH the scripture, because through the scriptures ONLY you can hope to have the Eternal life!!! Search it and as a Muslim you are deceived also!!!
It appears that people who claim this as a trinity don't know how to read properly. God appears to Abraham in verse 1 PRIOR to the three angels (men) coming which only occurs in verse 2. It is a sequence of events. Not a combined event. Thus there are six overall stated in the following order. God, Abraham, three angels, Sarah, and Yishmael. (referred to as the youngster in verse 7)
Wow…Abraham was counted “righteous” because of his belief and faith in God.. Yes, he was a good man, but good men have flaws.. Didn’t he, Abraham, hide the truth of his wife to the King) Again, his righteousness was connected to his faith..
Christians: reading the Bible exactly as it is written. 2 angels and God and not interpreting it as a reference to the trinity. Jews: no, all 3 are angels, and Christians take this as a proof of the trinity.
At 23:25 Rabbi said (with a smirk on his face), "Jesus Christ...Christy Christ" in a derogatory way. As a Christian I am offended. We never do that to anyone because we have love of Jesus in our hearts.
Ok but ( you skipped this part) before they went to Sodom ....Verse 18: 1 says The LORD ( יהוה yhwh Yahweh) appeared to Abraham by the oaks..thats when Abraham saw THE THREE Men STANDING across from him....Abraham/Sarah and servants fixed them something to eat and then in verse 33 The Lord ( i.e. יַהְוֶה n.pr.dei Yahweh, the proper name of the God of Israel ) went on his way when he finished talking to Abraham. Then Abraham returned home. Then 2 Angels came to Sodom in verse 19:1 ( where was the third ( YHWH) from verse 18:2) dont skip over this. This is the main point. So read all of chapter 18 not just parts. Also Abraham had met and heard Gods voice before so dont you think when he heard his voice in the ( Angel of GOD, so to speak) that he recognized YHWH? I am sure. Plus in Genesis Adam Heard GOD ( i.e. יַהְוֶה n.pr.dei Yahweh, the proper name of the God of Israel) walking in the Garden...., so God apparently robed himself in flesh this time as well. Because God is omni present.
@@frank7106 since the bible says NO MAN can see God and live, obviously you are mistaken. Why would God allow all those people to see Himself, but then hide himself from Moses when Moses asked to see His face?
@Abraham Mani but what if the NT is false? That means anything it says is false. So you better start quoting OT if you want to prove anything here, friend
I know that the text is difficult. I find Rabbi Tovias explanation (found in Yonatan Ben Uziel and quoted by Rashi, difficult.) Abraham talks to the Lord and suddenly is in middle of s conversation with the angels. The Ibn Ezra rauls against a Trinitarian understanding. And of course, Ibn Ezra is correct. However, I feel most comfortable with the Rashbam's understanding: Hashem appeared to Avrohom through three messengers. And a messanger is like the sender. So Abraham calls the messangers in the name of Ado-noi as he is Hashem's messanger. It is a simple understanding and it makes sense. No Trinity, no God-man. Just messengers sent by God.
@@cptarchangel257 The whole point of the concept that "A messanger is like the sender" questions that assertion. Rashbam has a phenomenal grasp on the text. He could have deferred to earlier analysts. However, he tries to stay as close as possible to the natural reading of the text.
@Abraham Mani: STOP promoting idolatry here! NOWHERE did God EVER tell us to "receive eternal life", or "be saved" or anything even CLOSE! NOWHERE did God EVER mention the name "Jesus" to us - that name ONLY appears in the false, pagan "NT" that absolutely DID NOT come from God, and it blasphemously preaches AGAINST what God said to us at Mt. Sinai! God has NO son other than ISRAEL. Read Isa. 52-54 where God's 'son' is ALWAYS referred to as ISRAEL! Actually LISTEN to what Rabbi Singer is saying!!
I'm very blessed to have grown up studying Torah and Midrashim etc, so I'm familiar with a lot of this, but R Singer does weave it together so beautifully and his knowledge of the texts is impressive. I hope people appreciate how lucky they are to hear what he's teaching. He spent all his life learning to pass this on to others. 🙏💙🔯
Isaiah 6:1-5 is definitely Jesus
@Abraham Mani: NOWHERE did God ever mention the name "Jesus" (NOR "Yeshua" that you constantly quote to us), NOR did He tell us that we need to be "saved", NOR did He tell us that he requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!) as atonement for our sins, NOR did He tell us to expect FURTHER SCRIPTURES after Mt. Sinai. You need to realize, accept and research for yourself, that the "NT" is absolutely NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God.
PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, buy a Hebrew Bible (says "TANACH" on the cover) and learn from the Rabbis as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11. In the absence of the Temple, the Rabbis are our spiritual teachers.
@@Yce_Take it always says the L-rdd appeared to abraham or L-rd appeared to Moses. Then after we see that means he is about to make his presence known. After we see burning bush and Moses and gext says an angel in the fire
Or Abraham who right after didn't instantly recognises the 3 men were angels and text later tells us explicitly angels
@@Yce_Take if they were all 3 together we might have to say why did it say 2 angels but they had split with 2 going thisbway and one not.
You have tk understand that we have explicit unambiguous texts everywhere. No man can see me amd love. Multiple of straight out G-d s not a man. And my favourite right after my entire nation witnessed G-d'a giving commandments at Sinai G-d says ti take special note and remember thatvwr saw no image of him there.
And here you come with torturous explanations full of ambiguity trying to argue.
You need evidence as good as the unambiguous evidence we have t9 argue
thank you Ravtovia .
I live in Nyeri in Kenya.
i am very blessed through Rabbi Tovia Singer's teaching.
HASHEM has blessed me in a mighty way .
HASHEM bless my Rabbi Tovia Singer.
kamuya ng'arua
@Abraham Mani like how you believe in paganism right ? I mean john 1:1 is regarded as a fabrication by scholars a verse that was added later on lmao your salvation is in vain come back to the true god of Abraham moses jesus and Muhammad peace be upon them
Amen!
Love you rabbi. Don't know how you put up with blatantly ignorant people who use that to then boost their pride, but hey, you certainly must be doing your job right to be upsetting so many people. Thanks for showing us the Love of HaShem and His Written and Oral Torahs.
@Abraham Mani: You need to realize, accept, and research for yourself, that the "NT" is absolutely NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, and learn from the Rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11. In the absence of the Temple, the Rabbis are our spiritual teachers.
@Abraham Mani: You need to stop quoting from your twisted, mistranslated, taken out of context, bastardized, blasphemous "OT"!! It is NOT the word of God!! .
It's awesome!! Thank you dear rabbi!!
@Abraham Mani: God already TOLD us what we need to do, which is to CONFESS our sins to Him (and ONLY Him!), REPENT of those sins, and ASK Him for His forgiveness. NO dead criminal on a cross required!! God specifically told us that one man CANNOT die for another man's sins! The false, pagan, man-made "NT", where you get your indoctrination from, is absolutely NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. NO FURTHER scriptures were given to mankind after Mt. Sinai.
PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "TANACH' on the cover), so you can see for yourself what God actually said to us at Mt. Sinai. Also extremely helpful to you would be Rabbi Singer's 2-vol. set of books "Let's Get Biblical - Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah?".
If there is a trinity, why does no prophet ever say "there are three of them..."?
Why didn't Jesus say "we are three of us..."?
Thanks again. I've got to disagree regarding the moment Abraham saw the three men.
Genesis 18:2 says, "And he lifted his eyes and saw, and behold, three men were standing beside him, and he saw and he ran toward them from the entrance of the tent, and he prostrated himself to the ground."
This is clearly stating that from the moment he saw them he knew these were not ordinary men, thus bowing down to them seemingly rather immediately.
I agree that something is missing in the text, but it is not when a transition from being aware that these three men were angels because the text implies that he knew rather immediately. I think what;'s missing is HOW he knew they were angels and HOW he was aware of it so immediately.
Love your videos and your insight.
Men prostrating to men is found all over yhe old testement
The old testament guys seems to be aware of qualities we arent aware of. Maybe they were extraordinary...physically...theres a special trait which they seem to spot and immediately know its an angel.
Like how we see a woman and know its a woman and not a man
@@daphnedaph8003 😆😆 nowadays I get confused to know which is man and which is woman.
On a serious note, did Lot know that they were angels?
According to the NT he didn't know.
@@btrueeth The Angels appeared to look like men, as a test to the people of Lot who were gays and into men. They did failed the test and demanded those "men" aka the Angels to be with them. Lot offered them his daughters in an attempt to bring them back to the straight path. Only then the Angel revealed to Lot that they were Angels and came to destroy his people.
@Abraham Mani Yeah, for the people whom Jesus pbuh was sent for as Jesus clearly mentioned he was sent ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL.
In the time of Moses pbuh, the only way you can get to Paradise is through Moses. In the time of Abraham pbuh, the only way you could get to Paradise is through Abraham pbuh.
The only Prophet that has made a claim to come FOR YOU and ALL MANKIND (AND DJINKiND) is The Last Prophet, Muhammad pbuh. And only through his teachings one could get to Paradise.
One guy said to me: one of the angels was acctually God in man form. So I linked your video to him, however he wanted facts of the scripture.
These Nasara(Christians),will never listen.
We do listen, that is why I am here : )
He wanted facts from the scripture.
@@jeremiahhenley3407 Where do you think the scripture came from? The same people that transmitted this, transmitted these traditions. If you trust one, you have to trust the other. No?
I mean I think they are both imperfectly preserved.
@@stevenv6463 No, because the written Thora was written down before Jesus, these traditions ("Oral thora") were written down after Jesus. The orthodox jews after Jesus obviously had an interest in interpreting scripture in a way that doesnt point to Jesus.
Of course we christians want evidence from the scripture. The scripture seems to indicate pretty clearly that one of the man was God in the flesh. How can God blame us to believe that?
Great teaching!
Christians do not believe that the 3 men that encounter Abraham gives proof of a Trinity.. What the encounter does proves is that the “Lord” (Christians call him Christ or the second person of the God) visited him face to face..
Genesis 18 is not confusing, Abraham has a conversation with the Lord concerning Sodom and it’s destruction.. The Lord tells Abraham that HE, will not destroy Sodom if 10 righteous are found he (The Lord) will not destroy the city..
The Lord then leaves Abraham.. One of the three men..
This is not confusing
Exactly.
I don't know who thinks that these 3 men are a presentation of the trinity.
Me as a Christian always knew that the 2 men who visited the city were angels.
Even in the translation it says "angels".
It's not like Christians twisted the words.
Beautiful video ❤, bless you!
Basically you need to be able to read Hebrew and or have someone who does and has no preconceived notions and doesn't read things into scripture teach you. No orthodox Jew would ever misunderstand these passages. The text is clear. Tou need to know who is talking to
Yes. Good comment. You need to record all yourbquesyiojs andbseel answers and if answers are not satisfying continue to seek them.
As an orthodox jew from grade 4 in primary school we had hebrew onky text for this and hebrew only rashi. But i remember in late primary school age thinking up questions at night and asking rabbis and teachers after. I wanted to know what is with days when 4th day son and moon made and stuff like that
Rabbi… you say Genesis 18 is missing information.. This has to be your position so that it can fit your narrative of the events.. Moses wrote this chapter, and I am sure he penned the events the way they authentically happened.. Nothing is missing..
Who is the third one? Ex-plain the third one to me, two depart for Sodom... whois the one that stayed with Abraham? Couldnot be the Father, but he is called as haShem ? Who was that? Are we getting it?
it was Jesus
@@isaiahbakombo8603where is the verse in the New Testament that uses this as a fulfillment citation?
Essentially the Jews and Muslims share the commonality with Abraham. However the religion of Abraham is Islam complete submission to Allah. The friend of Allah.
God clearly appeared to Abraham through angelic agency. If God can speak directly through prophets, how much more can He speak through His holy angels? The Hebrew Bible proves that the Messiah is the anthropomorphic arm of YHWH Himself revealed (Isaiah 53:1; 52:10; 59:16) rather than an alleged God the Son revealed. The Jews of old always believed that only the Father Himself is God.
Wow, thank you for this, i almost became a Christian again over this !
In Josephus’s book antiques of the Jews he tells the story and writes that it was 3 angels and god’s presence one told Sarah about the baby then left and the other two went to sodom this proves that the pre rabbinic and early Christian interpretation was always 3 men and early Christians such as Jerome didn’t think it was important to change the manuscript to 2 Angels with one being god because they didn’t believe it was god but they did change one of Josephus’s books to say that Jesus was the messiah
(Genesis 18:1-8) "And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; {2} And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, {3} And said, 👉My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee (singular/1st person), from thy servant: 👈 {4} Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree: {5} And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said. {6} And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth. {7} And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it. {8} And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat."
if you believe in jesus as being el,s holy lamb...you are a son of god, if gods holy spirit lives within you.. if not, your dead in your sins, an trespasses.
Jesus is solely lamb, do you mean passover Lamb? Because Herr this is the passover Lamb.
In exodus 8:21-22 "and pharoah said to Moses and aron saying go sacrifice ti yoir G-d in the land. But Moses said, "it is improper to do that, fir we will sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to G-d our L-rd. Will we sacrifice the diety of the Egyptians before their eyes and /hey will not stone us?"
So later on when 9 of the 10 plagues had taken place God through Moses ibsteucts the people to kill and eat the Lamb. Told to sprinkle blood on door posts. I think now you may start to see what is going on.
Going to have a 10th plague where first born gets killed. As you know the sngel of death passed over horses that had the blood on the door posts.
Point is to kill and eat the false pagan G-d of the Egyptians. To showboat we fear G-d above fearing the Egyptians and their death penalty pf stoning us. So we make it public to them
Notice as well this is not a sin, or repentance or atonement Sacrifice. Is a sacrifice of the righteous. This shows that they are worthy of the 10 plague to be carried out for them and to be taken out of Egypt.
And we still have mezuza on oir door posts today with relevant scripture inside.
Now much later this very foreign religion emerges called christianity. And we see at approx passover time (exacts date depends on which gospel you read) jesus is crucified. This has nothing to do with passover or passover Lamb.
Knowing what I told you above please tell me how you ever intend to get Jews to think jesus is the passover Lamb?
You must now realise that when we hear jesus is passover Lamb that we are heating that jesus is a pagan egyptian diety.
In the Christian N.T., the book called "Hebrews" at chapter 1:1&2, we are told that God spoke in the prior days to Israel through the persons of the prophets, but in these recent last days, He has spoken to us by a son. Even if Yeshua was the "Pre-incarnate Christ", which he isn't, the writer of Hebrews says he only began to speak to us now. That means that the Christian writer of Hebrews did not believe that God the Son came to visit Abraham. Trinitarians can't solve the problem of which of their four living Beings they identify as "God" came to eat with Abraham. Was it the person, God the Father, or was it the person, God the Son, or was it the person, God the Holy Ghost, or was it the "incomprehensible Divine Mystery" God, not one person but three, who came to Abraham? What a mess. It is the worst evil the church has inflicted on it's self. That is what happens when any religion "marries" the government and uses that power to "get their way". Please, my Christian friends and relatives, think! Stop believing stupid stuff. No matter what you think being dead means, GOD CAN NOT BE DEAD, not even for a few hours or days. Be careful where you put your commas when translating Greek into English. "I tell you today, you will be with me... " not "I tell you, today you will be with me..." Then be careful which words you capitalize. It is God's logos not God's Logos. At no place in scripture does God's word become a person. No, God's word comes to people and enters them. "I will put My words in his mouth". John is mistranslated and thus misunderstood to make us think that God's Word is Jesus incarnate in the flesh. Why is that not to be found somewhere in 66 books? Because it ain't true, that is why. I quit for now but I AM NOT done.
If the Trinity is real why would G*d make it a test of let’s see who can decipher this secret? Why wouldn’t the scriptures clearly say it. You know what the scriptures clearly say? That he is one and that he won’t give his glory to no other. You guys known what else doesn’t make sense? If the Trinity were true why would G*d care what form of him you worship? If he really is all three as long as you believe in one you still believe in him. But either way this is just a hypothetical example because I know the Trinity is not true. The law says he is one and nothing about three essence in one. The law also says listen to the true prophet. It doesn’t say believe in the death and resurrection of the Messiah for the forgiveness of your sins.
It is clear that calling God "the father" and "my father" and calling a righteous person "son of God" and calling a Prophet "God" and prostrating "worship" out of veneration and respect... All of these together spelled a recipe for deifying Jesus, especially by gentile converts learning about Jesus, after having left religions and cults that believe in godmen.
When God makes an appearance to Abraham, Moses etc,..it's called a theophany. So, either 3 angels manifesting themselves were visiting Abraham or 1 was a theophany of God and the other 2 were angels. Either way, it's not a trinity.
Abraham wouldn't bow down intentionally to the ground if they were just angels because angels don't accept worship and would have refused him to do so. Abraham calls one Lord and not Lords.
So, one is the Lord and the other 2 are angels
It definitely can seem confusing, but if you continue to read where Lot is speaking to them. You see in 19:1 that they are definitely angels. But if you look at 19:18 Lot states, "oh, not so, my LORD". So why is Lot calling them LORD? The rabbi is correct, these are 3 angels as Gods messengers. There is no reason the believe the one person who Abraham is with is God in flesh, if Lot continues to call these other 2 LORD also. That would make no sense. But It makes perfect sense that Abraham and Lot are both calling these messengers LORD if they are all Gods messengers.
I'm a Christian and I appreciate the insight from rabbi Singer, especially when it comes to his interpretation on how the word Elohim was applied to Moses and the angels and when others were addressed as if they were directly talking to God. I agree with his interpretation on those other passages and seems consistent to me, but I beg to differ when it comes to the entire account in Genesis 18.
For example, in his example in Isaiah 7:10, the vessel of God through which He delivered His message is clearly identified as Isaiah in verse 3. In Exodus 7:1, the vessel is identified as Moses. When we notice this apparent contradiction is when identifying the vessel as not being God becomes hugely important and therefore we can conclude with a big amount of certainty that this is a vessel of God. Genesis 19 fulfills these criteria as angels are identified, therefore it is also reasonable to say that verse 21 chapter 19 reflects this same idea of vessels speaking on behalf of God and being addressed as such. Chapter 18 is very singular in my opinion; the third man speaks in first person as God, just like in the other examples but the singularity in this is that this third man is identified as Yahweh in verses 1, 22, 26 and 33, as opposed to how the other 2 are identified and I don't see strong reasons to apply the vessels interpretation to this, it contains very different elements and context.
I hope whoever reads it can analyze this issue closely and discern which interpretation best explains the accounts.
Shut up already..
@@jsane8647 maybe you should if you don't know how to respectfully answer.
Don’t you Christian’s ever consider the fact that the NT Never once uses this Genesis 18 theory. Never once. The NT writers would have jumped all over that if it was possible to use as a fulfillment citation. Get over it. The Genesis 18 theory that G-d came down in human form is desperate, and in a way, even anti Jew. You Christian’s hate Jews who will not convert. You’re all evil.
Although away from me Christ would of been but it could be me. Who am I that I deserve saving? All I've had is my heart and it's been through hell
you're not alone....Abraham Rocks!
They sent out a list looking for me. Well here I am.
You're mixing things rabbi and the context of the Lord said when a man is talking is understood clearly by Christians that the man is not God. The trinity being a progressive revalation does not mean someone invented it later. An angel never accepts an act of worship such as a man bowing to them this is clear in Daniel. Two of the men where angel and one was the living word the same one Adam and Eve hid from in the Garden. The two angels are angels. The covering cherub are not a part of the trinity.
GOD blessed us with Rabbi Tovia speech. God Bless Him with strength . Well! christians should understand that they have the Bible to follow not the the church teachings?? May GOD bless All of us.
Isaiah 6:1-5
@You Say read Daniel 7:13-14
Read, Gen 19:4
Tovia, I agree with your argument that Gen. 18 is definitely not the Trinity. I also agree that two of the men were angels as proved in Gen. 19. Where I disagree with you completely is in assuming that the one speaking with Abraham was also an angel. The Old Testament clearly states in Gen. 18:1 that "the Lord appeared." Abraham spoke to God and was glad. Gen. 18:33 says that after communing with Abraham, the Lord went his way." Check out the Hebrew for "Lord" in these verses.
Big contradiction if you believe all three were angels. Anyone reading Gen. 18 will learn that a conversation takes place with Abraham. The angels did not converse with the prophet, but left for Sodom (ch. 19). It was the Lord who stayed and conversed. It was the Lord who rained fire from heaven, etc.
He will write it off no matter what. Pretty easy to say every time the LORD appears and speaks it's an Angel. What language would they use if it was the Lord? Would it be identical to a Angel being called God because he is speaking on behalf of God? At the least he could say it could have been a Angel or God reading the language they use. It would be intolerable for him to say God as a person talked to Abraham, so he makes something up to cover it up. He would lose his job.
Jacob himself said he wrestled God and he said 'he still lived' after seeing God in Genesis also. He did not make that kind of statement after he saw the Angels at Jacob's ladder. So obviously it was not a mere Angel. In Genesis Adam and Eve hid from God in the Garden because they heard his footsteps and then he personally cruses the snake. What would this guy say? It's one of the Angels finding them and on the spot judging, cursing all of humanity on behalf of God again? It's not logical.
Three That's right. Unfortunately, even Christians are now saying the same thing.
BYJOB You need to understand the Scriptures. Have you ever heard of "Theophanies?" Study.
Even Jews believe in the revelations of God in the Old Testament. Read the prophets, please.
The problem is The Angel of the lLord speaks as God in the first Person, he even turns his neck to face the speaker as if he is God as it says God turned to face him. Now the previous verse says it was the Angel of the Lord sitting there . So The angel Of the Lord turns to face the speaker and God turns to face the speaker. Yes some prophets were called God as you say but show me anywhere in the Bible that the Prophet speaks as God in the first Person . This would then corroborate your point. If you cant do this then you are trying to equate one scenario with another and they are completely different!
Haggai 1:1-10 God first person speaking through haggai the prophet verse 3.
@@cptarchangel257 what does that have to do with anything I just said
@@antoniopadro1760 Sorry, My Bad. I misquoted the verse.
It's Gen 19:24
Then the Lord rained upon aSodom and upon Gomorrah cbrimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
God sending rain from The God in heaven. Who is the Yahweh sending rain from THE YAHWEH in Heaven?
@@cptarchangel257 I have no idea what you're trying to say can you be more specific or whatever it is you're trying to say
@@cptarchangel257 nvm i see you're trying to point to the trinity somehow well then let's explain through scriptures shall we.
Exodus 33:20-22 no man can see my face and live.
Angels are messengers of God
If Abraham saw God's face in genesis 18 then he wouldn't of lived
Trinitarian does not believe the 3 angels are for the Trinity. However, it is the 3rd one, the one that stayed in front of Abraham as the other 2 angels went to Sodom, is believed to be the Word of God ( Jesus ), because it is written Abraham stood before The Lord. Why is one of them considered to be Jesus ? Because He is also a Messanger that is literally coming of of the Father ( just as the Word of God coming out of God ). That is why Jesus forgive sins and give life to whomever He wants. Moses on the other hand, was potrayed as like God to Pharoah.
Than how come the NT never once uses this Genesis 18 “Jesus visited Abraham” theory? The NT would have jumped all over that if it was possible to use it as a fulfillment citation. This is a total con. Christian’s cannot stand Jews who refuse to convert. They come up with hundreds of things that the NT never uses. Rediculous. Every day I hate Christianity more. It’s sick, twisted and demonic. Jesus is in Gehinom.
God chose the Jews out of all other people on earth. If at any time during their 5000 year history the Jews ever believed that God was a trinity, that notion would have been carried down from one generation to the next to this very day. But they didn't, and it wasn't. The trinity is a Christian invention.
Did God choose the Jews to show to the world how to wear payos ( side curls) ?
Israelites did believe in 3 Gods.
Abraham, Moses, Jeremiah, Amos...etc etc.
That's why you have most other pagan religions Trinity in them.
Because they are all descendants of Noah's Sons.
Who were scattered around when God confused the language. They all said the same stories but in different ways.
Love you
If a Christian wants to see the Trinity in the three angels that visited Abraham, who can really stop him - or her? People see what they want to see in Scripture, or in anything else, depending on their own internal biases and past conditioning. But I'm sure the Rabbi will offer up a good Jewish explanation for this passage of Scripture... Let me watch the video...
@Abraham Mani You quote well-known passages of New Testament scripture in support of your views, Mr. Mani, but you must remember that Jewish rabbis like Mr. Singer to not accept the New Testament as being sacred or authoritative. Obviously for you, the passages you quoted are foundational to your own personal belief system. Furthermore, your comment is a digression,, and is not really pertinent to the subject of the video - that is, the question of whether the three angels who visited Abraham actually foreshadowed the Christian Trinity.
i dont fallow rome.i dont put a tree,i dont say easter bunny, i dont believe mary was the mother of god... shes not queen of heave just because rome says so..no man has any way with god but his son. only by his blood does he sit at gods right hand...if you do not believe this, an do what he wills your lost..
What about 18:33?
What about it? Each angel gets 1 mission. Or at least 1 mission at a time. Just as Rabbi Singer said at the time stamp that you gave
@@mannymannyson6720 No, reading from the Tanakh it is clear that one of the three is the Lord. And if you continue through to ch 19 it clearly says the Lord on earth called down fire from the Lord in heaven.
@@mannymannyson6720 and what I gave wasn't a timestamp it was in reference to Genesis 18 verse 33
Ok i admit that the verse in Genesis 18 was talking about angel's i just remembered what you said in an debate that just because their called God does not mean they are God , it means that they represent God but not that they are actually God, But in the Bible we see that there were multiple encounters of God's people with the Angel of the Lord , for example ,Judges 6:20-23 we see that Gideon was afraid that he was going to die because he had seen the Angel of the Lord ,
Yes as the Rabbi said, this concept of "shaliah" or the Jew Law of Agency is found THROUGHOUT the Hebrew Bible. There are at least 33 or so instances where the angel of the Lord appears to people; sometimes he is called God because he is a representative & instrument of Yahweh, and sometimes not. At the end of the day, an angel is an angel; not God. In fact, sometimes the angel of the Lord prays to God and cries out "O Yahweh Almighty!" (Zech 1:12). Even in Judges 6:12, the angel says to Gideon, "the Lord is with you, mighty warrior." He did not say "I myself am with you" because he himself was not the Lord. He was only a messenger of God (that is what the Hebrew word Angel/Malak means) My friend, even look at Moses in Deuteronomy 29:2-6. In the last verses of his speech to Israel, Moses proclaims "I am Yahweh your God!". He said it in first person. Yet we do not believe Moses was God. Only a Prophet of God, serving as his mouthpiece.
Abdul S., you state... "My friend, even look at Moses in Deuteronomy 29:2-6. In the last verses of his speech to Israel, Moses proclaims "I am Yahweh your God!". He said it in first person. Yet we do not believe Moses was God. Only a Prophet of God, serving as his mouthpiece." My response, wow, that is an amazing point. I have read this verse so many times but did not realize what I was reading till you pointed this out for me. Thanks.
@@celestialknight2339 He says, " Yahweh says..". Get it right.
@@jeremiahhenley3407what translation are you reading that from. I’m not looking to argue, I’m really not, I’m genuinely interested. Do you speak Hebrew. Is that a literal translation from Hebrew. I’ve looked in t three different translations (I Tanakh and two different Christian translations) and all three say “I am the Lord your G-d.
Revelation 3 :9 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Am I misunderstanding something I am reading 2 Angels the other one seems to be referred to as the Lord ? If I am wrong please give me verse it says 3 angels
One to bring the news of Isaac’s birth to Sarah, and one to overturn Sodom, and one to heal Abraham, for one angel does not perform two errands.
My interpretation of Genesis chapter 18 is that in the story there was Abraham, Sarah, three angels/men and God.
* We begin with God appearing to Abraham and Abraham seeing 3 men/angels and running towards them.
- Abraham asked Sarah to prepare some food.
- The men/angels ate with Abraham.
- The three angels spoke to Abraham.
- Then one angel said in verse 10; “your wife Sarah will have a son."
And Sarah heard from the entrance of the tent, and it was behind him.”
- Sarah laughed to herself (verse 12) not believing the angel.
- Then in verse 13 God said “Sarah will have a son”.
- Then in verse 16 the 3 men/angels stood up, they looked at Sodom, and Abraham walked with them.
- In verses 17 to 21 God is speaking directly to Abraham.
- In verse 22 the 3 men/angels leave to go to Sodom but God remains and Abraham stands before Him.
- In verses 23 to 32 Abraham has a conversation with God.
- In verse 33 the conversation is over, God leaves and Abraham returns to his home.
* Since one Angel has completed his task of informing Sarah, that angel will eventually leave the situation by the end of the chapter on the way to Sodom
- There are two separate events which lead up to Genesis chapter 19:1;
A. An Angel leaves and now there are two angels/men left.
B. The Lord departs from his discussion with Abraham.
** I have to establish two things to support my interpretation.
1. Are there any verses in Genesis where God speaks to Abraham directly?
- Yes. Below I have listed and quoted from 35 verses where God speaks directly to Abraham.
This establishes that God does not need an angel to speak to Abraham.
- So, my view is that God is also speaking directly to Abraham in Chapter 18.
2. When an angel is done with their task, can the angel leave without an exit text in scripture?
Again, yes.
- In Genesis chapter 16: 6-12 an angel spoke to Hagar and when the conversation was finished, there is no exit language. The angel is just gone.
- My view is that after the angel finished his task with Sarah, he left the situation.
** 35 verses where God speaks to Abraham directly with no angel.
- Genesis chapter 12: 1-3 (Chabad)
“1. And the Lord said to Abram, "Go forth from your land and from your birthplace and from your father's house, to the land that I will show you.
2. And I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you, and I will aggrandize your name, and [you shall] be a blessing.
3. And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you." 4And Abram went, as the Lord had spoken to him,”
- Genesis chapter 13: 14-17 (Chabad)
“14. And the Lord said to Abram after Lot had parted from him, "Please raise your eyes and see, from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward.
15. For all the land that you see I will give to you and to your seed to eternity.
16. And I will make your seed like the dust of the earth, so that if a man will be able to count the dust of the earth, so will your seed be counted.
17. Rise, walk in the land, to its length and to its breadth, for I will give it to you."”
- Genesis chapter 15: 1, 4-5, 7, 9, 13-16, 18-21 (Chabad)
“1. After these incidents, the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Fear not, Abram; I am your Shield; your reward is exceedingly great."
“4. And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, "This one will not inherit you, but the one who will spring from your innards-he will inherit you."
5. And He took him outside, and He said, "Please look heavenward and count the stars, if you are able to count them." And He said to him, "So will be your seed."”
“7. And He said to him, "I am the Lord, Who brought you forth from Ur of the Chaldees, to give you this land to inherit it."”
“9. And He said to him, "Take for Me three heifers and three goats and three rams, and a turtle dove and a young bird."”
“13. And He said to Abram, "You shall surely know that your seed will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and they will enslave them and oppress them, for four hundred years.
14. And also the nation that they will serve will I judge, and afterwards they will go forth with great possessions.
15. But you will come to your forefathers in peace; you will be buried in a good old age.
16. And the fourth generation will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites will not be complete until then."”
“18. On that day, the Lord formed a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your seed I have given this land, from the river of Egypt until the great river, the Euphrates river.
19. The Kenites, the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
20. And the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Rephaim,
21. And the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Girgashites and the Jebusites."”
- Genesis chapter 17: 1-2, 4-16, 19-21,
“1. And Abram was ninety-nine years old, and God appeared to Abram, and He said to him, "I am the Almighty God; walk before Me and be perfect.
2. And I will place My covenant between Me and between you, and I will multiply you very greatly."”
“4. "As for Me, behold My covenant is with you, and you shall become the father of a multitude of nations.
5. And your name shall no longer be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham, for I have made you the father of a multitude of nations.
6. And I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make you into nations, and kings will emerge from you.
7. And I will establish My covenant between Me and between you and between your seed after you throughout their generations as an everlasting covenant, to be to you for a God and to your seed after you.
8. And I will give you and your seed after you the land of your sojournings, the entire land of Canaan for an everlasting possession, and I will be to them for a God."
9. And God said to Abraham, "And you shall keep My covenant, you and your seed after you throughout their generations.
10. This is My covenant, which you shall observe between Me and between you and between your seed after you, that every male among you be circumcised.
11. And you shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be as the sign of a covenant between Me and between you.
12. And at the age of eight days, every male shall be circumcised to you throughout your generations, one that is born in the house, or one that is purchased with money, from any foreigner, who is not of your seed.
13. Those born in the house and those purchased for money shall be circumcised, and My covenant shall be in your flesh as an everlasting covenant.
14. And an uncircumcised male, who will not circumcise the flesh of his foreskin-that soul will be cut off from its people; he has broken My covenant."
15. And God said to Abraham, "Your wife Sarai-you shall not call her name Sarai, for Sarah is her name.
16. And I will bless her, and I will give you a son from her, and I will bless her, and she will become [a mother of] nations; kings of nations will be from her. "”
“19. And God said, "Indeed, your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you shall name him Isaac, and I will establish My covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his seed after him.
20. And regarding Ishmael, I have heard you; behold I have blessed him, and I will make him fruitful, and I will multiply him exceedingly; he will beget twelve princes, and I will make him into a great nation.
21. But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you at this time next year."
@@bb1111116if G-d spoke plainly to Abraham without the agency of an Angel (or a dream or vision) than you can throw the Torah into the toilet. Why? Because it is a clear verse in the same Torah (Numbers 12:6) that says otherwise. Only Moses had that privilege (to hear Hashems words plainly spoken without the agency of an Angel or vision or dream), according to Numbers 12:6.
@@noahroad6577 ; it is important to see the verses in Numbers 12:1-8 in context.
- First, there is no mention of angels in Numbers 12:1-8.
- With Numbers 12:1, Aaron and Miriam are criticizing Moses about this wife. All three are awake.
- In Numbers 12:4, God joins the discussion and tells Moses, Aaron and Miriam to go to the tent of meeting. They are still awake.
- With Numbers 12:6-8 God explains to Aaron and Miriam that God communicates with them and others through visions or dreams. They are awake and so Aaron and Miriam are experiencing a vision from God.
God then explains that God speaks to Moses with more clarity (not with riddles) and that Moses can see God more clearly.
* Back to Abraham, God spoke to him in a vision as he had spoken to Aaron and Miriam in Numbers 12:4-8.
@@noahroad6577 ; My detailed comment to you has been blocked. A summary.
it is important to see the verses in Numbers 12:1-8 in context.
- First, there is no mention of angels in Numbers 12:1-8.
- In Numbers 12:1-8, Aaron and Miriam are awake and are experiencing a vision from God.
- With Numbers 12:4, God tells Moses, Aaron and Miriam to go to the tent of meeting.
- With Numbers 12:6-8 God explains to Aaron and Miriam that God speaks to Moses with more clarity (not with riddles) and that Moses can see God more clearly.
* Back to Abraham, God spoke to him in a vision as he had spoken to Aaron and Miriam in Numbers 12:4-8.
I'm the one HE stood over with my sister"wisdom", and said, this one is beloved and will close HIS books. So the values in their words are not to them. As David said of my family. To save them for what I've done. To ensure the words fell not short.
There was a Hasidic Rabbi who explained that the Holy Spirit represents the Spirit which may have a higher morality in ourselves than even the Law, if that person is spiritually higher than others. The Father represents God the Father and the Son represents ourselves-the soul. Something to that effect. It's a Rabbinic kind of code that Jesus expounded and it was misinterpreted.
Shalom , of course because Abraham is the chosen and the most important man through all the Scriptures , for ADONAI ELOHIM to achieve all His purposes .
וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו אֲנִי יְהֹוָה אֲשֶר הוֹצֵאתִיךָ מֵאוּר כַּשְׂדִּים לָתֶת לְךָ אֶת-הָאָרֶץ הַזֹּאת לְרִשְתָּהּ׃
Transliteration: Va-Yo-Mer E-Lav A-Ni A-Do-Nai A-Sher Ho-Tse-Ti-Kha Me-Ur Kas-Dim La-Tet Le-Kha Et-Ha-A-Rets Ha-Zot Le-Rish-Ta.
בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא כָּרַת יְהֹוָה אֶת-אַבְרָם בְּרִית לֵאמֹר לְזַרְעֲךָ נָתַתִּי אֶת-הָאָרֶץ הַזֹּאת מִנְּהַר מִצְרַיִם עַד-הַנָּהָר הַגָּדֹל נְהַר-פְּרָת׃
Transliteration: Ba-Yom Ha-Hu Ka-Rat A-Do-Nai Et-Av-Ram Be-Rit Le-Mor Le-Zar-A-Kha Na-Ta-Ti Et-Ha-A-Rets Ha-Zot Min-Har Mits-Ra-Yim Ad-Ha-Na-Har Ha-Ga-Dol Ne-Har-Pe-Rat.
וַיְהִי אַבְרָם בֶּן-תִּשְעִים שָנָה וְתֵשַע שָנִים וַיֵּרָא יְהֹוָה אֶל-אַבְרָם וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו אֲנִי-אֵל שַדַּי הִתְהַלֵּךְ לְפָנַי וֶהְיֵה תָמִים׃
Transliteration: Va-Ye-Hi Av-Ram Ben-Tish-Im Sha-Na Ve-Te-Sha Sha-Nim Va-Ye-Ra A-Do-Nai El-Av-Ram Va-Yo-Mer E-Lav A-Ni-El Sha-Dai Hit-Ha-Lekh Le-Fa-Nai Veh-Ye Ta-Mim.
וְאֶתְּנָה בְרִיתִי בֵּינִי וּבֵינֶךָ וְאַרְבֶּה אוֹתְךָ בִּמְאֹד מְאֹד׃
Transliteration: Ve-Et-Na Ve-Ri-Ti Bei-Ni U-Vei-Ne-Kha Ve-Ar-Be Ot-Kha Bim-Od Me-Od.
וַיִּשָׂא עֵינָיו וַיַּרְא וְהִנֵּה שְלֹשָה אֲנָשִים נִצָּבִים עָלָיו וַיַּרְא וַיָּרָץ לִקְרָאתָם מִפֶּתַח הָאֹהֶל וַיִּשְתַּחוּ אָרְצָה׃
Transliteration: Va-Yi-Sa Ei-Nav Va-Yar Ve-Hi-Ne She-Lo-Sha A-Na-Shim Ni-Tsa-Vim A-Lav Va-Yar Va-Ya-Rats Lik-Ra-Tam Mi-Pe-Takh Ha-O-Hel Va-Yish-Ta-Khu Ar-Tsa.
וַיְהֹוָה אָמָר הַמֲכַסֶּה אֲנִי מֵאַבְרָהָם אֲשֶר אֲנִי עֹשֶׂה׃
Transliteration: Va-A-Do-Nai A-Mar Ha-Ma-Kha-Se A-Ni Me-Av-Ra-Ham A-Sher A-Ni O-Se
וְאַבְרָהָם הָיוֹ יִהְיֶה לְגוֹי גָּדוֹל וְעָצוּם וְנִבְרְכוּ-בוֹ כֹּל גּוֹיֵי הָאָרֶץ׃
Transliteration: Ve-Av-Ra-Ham Ha-Yo Yih-Ye Le-Goi Ga-Dol Ve-A-Tsum Ve-Niv-Re-Khu-Vo Kol Go-Yei Ha-A-Rets.
כִּי יְדַעְתִּיו לְמַעַן אֲשֶר יְצַוֶּה אֶת-בָּנָיו וְאֶת-בֵּיתוֹ אַחֲרָיו וְשָמְרוּ דֶּרֶךְ יְהֹוָה לַעֲשׂוֹת צְדָקָה וּמִשְפָּט לְמַעַן הָבִיא יְהֹוָה עַל-אַבְרָהָם אֵת אֲשֶר-דִּבֶּר עָלָיו׃
Transliteration: Ki Ye-Da-Tiv Le-Ma-An A-Sher Ye-Tsa-Ve Et-Ba-Nav Ve-Et-Bei-To A-Kha-Rav Ve-Sham-Ru De-Rekh A-Do-Nai La-A-Sot Tse-Da-Ka U-Mish-Pat Le-Ma-An Ha-Vi A-Do-Nai Al-Av-Ra-Ham Et A-Sher-Di-Ber A-Lav.
וַיִּקְרָא מַלְאַךְ יְהֹוָה אֶל-אַבְרָהָם שֵנִית מִן-הַשָּמָיִם׃
Transliteration: Va-Yik-Ra Mal-Akh A-Do-Nai El-Av-Ra-Ham She-Nit Min-Ha-Sha-Ma-Yim.
וַיֹּאמֶר בִּי נִשְבַּעְתִּי נְאֻם-יְהֹוָה כִּי יַעַן אֲשֶר עָשִׂיתָ אֶת-הַדָּבָר הַזֶּה וְלֹא חָשַׂכְתָּ אֶת-בִּנְךָ אֶת-יְחִידֶךָ׃
Transliteration: Va-Yo-Mer Bi Nish-Ba-Ti Ne-Um-A-Do-Nai Ki Ya-An A-Sher A-Si-Ta Et-Ha-Da-Var Ha-Ze Ve-Lo Kha-Sakh-Ta Et-Bin-Kha Et-Ye-Khi-De-Kha.
כִּי-בָרֵךְ אֲבָרֶכְךָ וְהַרְבָּה אַרְבֶּה אֶת-זַרְעֲךָ כְּכוֹכְבֵי הַשָּמַיִם וְכַחוֹל אֲשֶר עַל-שְׂפַת הַיָּם וְיִרַש זַרְעֲךָ אֵת שַעַר אֹיְבָיו׃
Transliteration: Ki-Va-Rekh A-Va-Rekh-Kha Ve-Har-Ba Ar-Be Et-Zar-A-Kha Ke-Khokh-Vei Ha-Sha-Ma-Yim Ve-Kha-Khol A-Sher Al-Se-Fat Ha-Yam Ve-Yi-Rash Zar-A-Kha Et Sha-Ar Oi-Vav.
גּוּר בָּאָרֶץ הַזֹּאת וְאֶהְיֶה עִמְּךָ וַאֲבָרֲכֶךָּ כִּי-לְךָ וּלְזַרְעֲךָ אֶתֵּן אֶת-כׇּל-הָאֲרָצֹת הָאֵל וַהֲקִמֹתִי אֶת-הַשְּבֻעָה אֲשֶר נִשְבַּעְתִּי לְאַבְרָהָם אָבִיךָ׃
Transliteration: Gur Ba-A-Rets Ha-Zot Ve-Eh-Ye Im-Kha Va-A-Va-Ra-Khe-Ka Ki-Le-Kha U-Le-Zar-A-Kha E-Ten Et-Kol-Ha-A-Ra-Tsot Ha-El Va-Ha-Ki-Mo-Ti Et-Ha-She-Vu-A A-Sher Nish-Ba-Ti Le-Av-Ra-Ham A-Vi-Kha
וְהִרְבֵּיתִי אֶת-זַרְעֲךָ כְּכוֹכְבֵי הַשָּמַיִם וְנָתַתִּי לְזַרְעֲךָ אֵת כׇּל-הָאֲרָצֹת הָאֵל וְהִתְבָּרֲכוּ בְזַרְעֲךָ כֹּל גּוֹיֵי הָאָרֶץ׃
Transliteration: Ve-Hir-Bei-Ti Et-Zar-A-Kha Ke-Khokh-Vei Ha-Sha-Ma-Yim Ve-Na-Ta-Ti Le-Zar-A-Kha Et Kol-Ha-A-Ra-Tsot Ha-El Ve-Hit-Ba-Ra-Khu Ve-Zar-A-Kha Kol Go-Yei Ha-A-Rets.
עֵקֶב אֲשֶר-שָמַע אַבְרָהָם בְּקֹלִי וַיִּשְמֹר מִשְמַרְתִּי מִצְוֹתַי חֻקּוֹתַי וְתוֹרֹתָי׃
Transliteration: E-Kev A-Sher-Sha-Ma Av-Ra-Ham Be-Ko-Li Va-Yish-Mor Mish-Mar-Ti Mits-Vo-Tai Khu-Ko-Tai Ve-To-Ro-Tai
If abraham know they are angels then why he bow down before them becouse god is not human and dont have human body
John 1:1 God becomes Man.
Romans 14:9 Man becomes God.
Coming Soon....
God becomes Woman,
Woman becomes God.
God the Father,
God the Daughter,
God the Holy Ghost.
It was three Angels Gabriel Michael and Rafael
*The guests received by Abraham and visited Lot that is mentioned in Genesis (from the current Torah) were angels.
This is the belief in Judaism and non-trinitarian Christians.
Allah chooses from the angels, messengers and from men.
Surely, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
(Al-Quran 22:75)
*In the Quran, the guests are referred to as Messengers:
And certainly did Our rusul (messengers) come to Abraham with good tidings; they said, "Peace." He said, "Peace," and did not delay in bringing a roasted calf.
But when he saw their hands not reaching for it, he distrusted them and felt from them apprehension. They said, "Fear not. We have been sent to the people of Lot."
(Al-Quran 11:69-70)
*And the guests did not reach for the food being served.
And his Wife was standing, and she smiled. Then We gave her good tidings of Isaac and after Isaac, Jacob.
She said, "Woe to me! Shall I give birth while I am an old woman and this, my husband, is an old man? Indeed, this is an amazing thing!"
They said, "Are you amazed at the decree of Allah ? May the mercy of Allah and His blessings be upon you, people of the house. Indeed, He is Praiseworthy and Honorable."
(Al-Quran 11: 71-73)
*Angels informing the coming of a newborn child is consistent with angel Gabriel announcing to Mary about her future son, Jesus and an angel informing Zachariah about his future son, John (Yahya), both incidents mentioned in the current gospels and in chapter Maryam (Mary) of the Quran.
They said, "O Lot, indeed we are rusul (messengers) of your rabb (lord); [therefore], they will never reach you. So set out with your family during a portion of the night and let not any among you look back - except your wife; indeed, she will be struck by that which strikes them. Indeed, their appointment is [for] the morning. Is not the morning near?"
(Al-Quran 11:81)
*The guests identified themselves to Lot as messengers.
[Abraham] said, "Then what is your business [here], O messengers?"
They said, "Indeed, we have been sent to a people of criminals,
Except the family of Lot; indeed, we will save them all
Except his wife." Allah decreed that she is of those who remain behind.
(Al-Quran 15:57-60)
*Abraham referred to them as messengers.
Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as arbaban (lords). Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims?
(Al-Quran 3: 80)
Allah - there is no ilah (deity/god) except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of existence.
He has sent down upon you, the Book in truth, confirming what was before it.
And He revealed the Torah and the Injil.
Before, as guidance for the people
And He revealed the Criterion (Qur'an). Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution.
(Al-Quran 3:2-4)
*The original Torah was revealed to Moses and the original Injil was revealed to Jesus.
The word Injil is closer in pronouciation with the word Gospel in other languages.
The Quran is the most recent Revelation and is the Criterion.
God is only one.
God sent messengers.
God is not a messenger.
Jesus was a messenger from a long line of messengers.
Messengers are chosen from men to convey message to men.
The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth.
(Al-Quran 5:75)
Their messengers said to them, "We are only men like you, but Allah confers favor upon whom He wills of His servants. It has never been for us to bring you evidence except by permission of Allah . And upon Allah let the believers rely.
(Al-Quran 14:11)
God sent Jesus.
God is not Jesus.
Allah chooses from the angels, messengers and from men.
Surely, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
(Al-Quran 22:75)
There are angel messengers
He sends down the angels, with the inspiration of His command, upon whom He wills of His servants, "Warn that there is no ilah (deity/god) except Me; so fear Me."
(Al-Quran 16:2)
Angel Gabriel is referred to as The Spirit.
And mention, in AlKitab (the Book), Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place toward the east.
And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Spirit (Angel Gabriel), and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man.
She said, "Indeed, I seek refuge in the Most Merciful from you, [so leave me], if you should be fearing of Allah ."
He said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy."
She said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?"
He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.'
(Al-Quran Translation/interpretation Chapter Mary/Maryam(19) : 16-21)
Gabriel identified himself to Mary as "the messenger of your Lord".
The story of Gabriel appearing before Mary(Maryam) to inform her about her future son (Jesus/Isa) is also mentioned in the bible.
Angels have wings.
[All] praise is [due] to Allah, Creator of the heavens and the earth, [who] made the angels messengers having wings, two or three or four. He increases in creation what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent.
(Al-Quran 35: 1)
God sent angels.
God is not an angel.
It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allah," rather, "be rabbaniyyun, because you are teaching the Book, and you are studying it."
Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as arbaban (lords). Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims?
(Al-Quran 3:79-80)
There are angel messengers
There are human messengers.
God is only one.
God have no son.
God is not one third of three.
God is not a messenger.
God sent messengers.
Indeed, Allah is but one ilah (deity/god). Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
(Al-Quran 4:171)
Genesis 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
Between us three we hit every prophecy. He or Christ staged the false god and the peril of following another a door was given and they took it. Mine being named Lord from the womb and Yeshurun later meaning upright Lord have had a terror of our own. So don't feel alone but Christ is the path of death and I'm in this carrying the debts left behind. Words that did not immediately occur so prophets... Hmm I sent it out what a prophet looks like. Coming out of fulfillment? Are we done yet? When shall we hey be thrusted out? Because if they are what's standing in the way of a clear path. Well whenever you're ready I say. Otherwise let's get on track. I know some positions are not meant for the reckless who have no backing from GOD. They seek answers from the devil and the Vatican. Same place same source where he started. We know one thing. It's time to work out the lies. Free we are from those chains. My duty isn't complete yet. Or is it? Different in the latter days. Christ was the cost of adding books. False god,idolatry, wooden carved images, poison and all else that is full on evil. He is death. We served a defying path. Defying our own goodwill and understanding to suffer what we otherwise wouldn't of done. Foolish love? IDK I just know neither he or I are GOD. Lessons. Power of words. Reliable is the one of suffering in use of power only when used not alone but relying on the source of power. So much is mine that I'm at bay. But move I will suddenly and complete what's opened. Their Pandora's box. Take a sure way. Take nothing of GOD's glory. The king is the Messiah and Christ didn't set you free with GOD by being directed by GOD. He is who he said he was not who GOD said he was. In order we came. What's eternally blessed? Mercy not sacrifice? I sure hope that stands. I hate killing or the idea of it. It must have to occur. Otherwise use the loyalty ways and instruct well. Shalom
Rabbi Tovia Singer how do you do it?? i mean after all these years still saying these things, Defending the Torah. Dont you get tired and want to go home to your family?? i Would just go live my life. I dont envy you. Or God made you for this. I would lose my mind.
There were 2 angels, not 3...
tovia admires abrahams good works. works of the flesh...look up admire? its wereship.
They usually teach that this was somehow the Son of Man, or in their view Jesus and two other angels. Or sometimes they say that Michael the Archangel is really Jesus and he was with Gabriel and Uriel.
Funny the language u used son of man when the jesus character of the Nt is the only guy I know who is not the son of man
This is the same reason why the Gospel of John says "and the Word was God". Not because Jesus (the Word) was ontologically God (like the Greeks, and Trinitarians, and "deity of Christ" people think), but because, like the Rabbi says a few times in this video "the prophet who is carrying out the will of God can be called God". In word and deed Jesus, the human Messiah (the biblical Messiah Jesus, not the Roman-Byzantine god-man), carried out the will of God.
Yeshua or Christ never present with HASHEM. Always dark ones or my sister who left and he began speaking. The sell caused by experience I was yet to find I had to fight for myself also. A demon is christ
So do you remove God's name and translated with the name where do you get the right to change scripture you talk about gentiles or Christians you changing the Old testament which by the way your auntie wasn't written until 7th century
Doesn’t Paul hate & change scripture as well
Is angles have body like humans?
No, but they can appear in human form. Same for demons. But the main difference between Angels and demons, Angels can only do what God tells them to do as they have no free will, but demons can do whatever they want as they are creation like human - with free will. Satan is from the djin kind (the unseen often being credited to supernatural, paranormal activities) not Angels, that's why he can disobey God's command. There's 2 kind of Djin, one that actually follows the religion of the human Prophet of their time and one that follows Satan.
Magic is the work of these unseen being. Light magic from the "good" djin, while black magic from the bad djins aka demons. Human who dabbles in magic often use rituals to call these unseen beings without understanding of their nature, and call it many names.
And that is from Islamic belief, I think in Jewish tradition, Satan is an Angel who only obey God's order.
And in Islamic belief, Satan was a being of smokeless fire (the Djinkind) who was the most righteous among his kind, until God raised his among the Angels in Heaven. But when Adam was created, all the Angels bowed down to Adam as God's commanded, but Satan being with free will, disobeyed God and questioned his being from fire thus superior than human created from dirt and clay.
@@nutzhazel we don't believe that. No demons thwt goes away ftom monotheist belief. Same for dhajjal thqt isba dualist idea. You laws of shirk are perfect I am disappointed in islam to see they adopted the dyakosy dhajjall idea
Avram has food for them ...what food did he offer? meat milk bread (Genesis 17:7-8-9
A sheep actually, concerning the Qur'an.
Maybe Abraham threw a few T bones on a grill with a baked potato. 😆
Toviah did not answer this question correctly , the question is not about trinity, the question is , why 3 angels (men) came to Abraham but then 2 angels(men) leave for Sodom but one Angel stays with Abram, than Abraham has a conversation with the remaining Angel as a conversation with God? Gen 18:22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD (YHVH)Gen 18:33 And the LORD(YHVH) went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place. Gen 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; Gen 19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it. Who was the 3rd Angel YHVH? Why did the 3rd Angel appear to Abraham as a man?
But you are leaving one thing. the other 2 Are not Angels.
Read before the 2 men went down to Sodom. Yahweh Himself was speaking and said Im going down
Read, Gen 19:4
I reject the Trinity and believe in one God. Why are you not addressing Gen 18:22 where Abraham remains standing before YHWH (one of the three men)? We know the other two are angels. The Tanach doesn't state there were three angels, but three men, two of which are called angels in Gen 19:1. Did YHWH take on immortal, human form? If so, did He leave all of heaven to appear before Abraham? I believe HaShem is omnipresent, for He is Spirit. Why, then, could He not, by His Spirit, be begotten of the flesh (a temple of mortal flesh), in order to sacrifice Himself as the Lamb? (Acts 20:28)
Genesis 19:24
Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
Who is the Yahweh sending rain from THE YAHWEH in Heaven?
@@cptarchangel257 I think it's simply repeating the same thing: Then YAHWEH rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire, so the brimstone and fire was from YAHWEH out of heaven.
@@adeliawilliams4884 It's not repeating...Check other verses to understand the God of Israel. Who are 3.
David writes " My God said to my Lord, sit at my right hand"
My God is Yahhweh God, My Lord is Jesus who is sitting at the right hand of God.
There is a Trinity, if you take the inner meaning. The One flows down into a triune stream. Abraham is right column, Issac is the left column, Jacob is the center column. Akedah, the right binds the left, so that the center channel can emerge. Moses, Aaron, Joseph, the next triad. In music you can not have a chord without a triad of 3 notes, such is the nature of creation.
😆 so abraham cannot determine if the 3 are angels or God. ...while Lot knows that his guests are angels... 😆. I need an eyeglasses... Hmmm
I just wonder why those angels accepted the worship of Abraham.. 😆
Prostating yourself doesnt automatically mean you're worshipping someone as God it also acts as a sign of respect
Have you look at ( flat Earth ) it mostly live .
God appeared to Abraham, any other explaination is going against what is written in Torah.
LOL i see just take that.
Except thay then if you ignore that it says angels or anything else you are going against what is written
We learn by reading all that whenever it says 'The Lord appeared to someone' that G-d is about to make his presence known. Says that with Moses rhen right after we see the text say an angel in the fire
And here right after he has 3 angels visit and text tells us they're angels.
Now dont go against what is written.
It actually makes more sense from a Christian view to believe those visitors were not G-d since like Jews, Christians acknowledge what both faiths call G-d is a spirit.
הללויה
What does it mean in English
@@queensuzanna1031: Any time you want to know what a foreign language means, just right-click near the text and select "Translate to English" from the menu.
The way they dress and like those you meet and feel connected. They are like that. I've met them those on high and GOD formally before this. In the womb my hearing HIM layer seeing HIM while teething. It was HIS voice I remembered and I leaped inside with joy and my gift of memeu or your seeing eye that's not vision I see but know and we work together. We curve together we build together and we remove together. In the grand scale this is worked on together. Like it was with Moshe it is now. I however had hell and shame and all else to carry. It appears they had bitterness in prophecy to state another was to come. Sad but I still forgive this. What had to be has had to be.
It’s not a reference to the Trinity. The scripture shows that one of the men is the Lord and the other two are angels.
“Now God appeared to him near the oak of
Mambre, while he was sitting at the door of
his tent at midday. And looking up with his eyes he saw, and see, three men stood over him” -Gen 18: 1, 2
“Then the Lord went away, when he had left off speaking to Abraam, and Abraam returned to his place” -18:33
“Now the two angels came to Sodoma at
evening, and Lot was sitting beside the gate
of Sodoma.” - 19:1a
It’s right there. There’s no reference to trinitarian teaching in the Hebrew Scriptures. It’s just not there. But to show you I’m a good sport I actually quoted the Septuagint to show it’s not even there in the ancient Christian Bible. The church fathers were just liars basically.
Question; Would you say that the NT is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the Torah is the fruit of the tree of life ?
The Torah is the Tree of life (Proverbs 3:18). Not sure where your "the fruit of" comes from. The NT is in the same category as the Illiad, the Vedas, and the Ainulindale and Valaquenta.
If the pole with the serpent is the cross than could it be correct to say the new testament is
the "Tree of Knowledge of good and evil" from the garden in Genesis ?
Fruit is the individual perception one would get from reading Torah.
+ChiliMcFly1
No.
+ChiliMcFly1 As an analogy to your suggested interpretation: If 42 tasted purple, then could it be correct to say that the square root of a peanut butter jar is a jellyfish?
sorry you lost me at purple. I believe we all have our own relationship with G d. So when we each read the Torah there who be what the spirit and ourselves through meditation with G d can build on that relationship. We should grow and gain in wisdom and understanding.
Rabbi you are correct god does not change his nature but he does change his form - when Abraham met Melchizdek the great high priest without father without mother
no beginning of days, that was Christ the theophany now that theophany became flesh in a temple called JESUS
Isaiah 6:1-5
Melchizedek is shem the son of Noah. Uou just attributed alot to the guy and it says nothing like that in tanach aboit him.
On fact I checked with my Evan shoshan hebrew concordance and he only appears that one time in genesis and once in psalms.
You certainly can't be using the chridtian bible to try tell us stuff aboitbtanach's characters. Not when we are here trying to prove the Nt false or true
Let "Us"(Plural) 'make man in "OUR"(Plural) Image!
@Lights Life Shouting will NOT..stop the truth!...plural "our" "us"
@@threshingfloor8591
'Ours' , 'US' denotes plurality.
Are u saying the the G-d of the Hebrew Scriptures is more than one and in essence that there are more than one G-d ?
"US". G-D the father, the son and the Holy ghost.
So three men appeared to Abraham and two angels go to Sodom and one man, Yahweh stays and talks to Abraham. So we know that God became man here.
No all 3 were angels.
@@mannymannyson6720 Where did the third Angel go? Just, disappeared?!
@@wordsthatbrighten1035 went to Sodom. They each only 1 task at a time
At 25:00 did u hear tovia singer start talking about Africans living in Egypt? He knows the Hebrews were black hence why moses was able to live in the house of pharaoh until he was 40!
These people are slick
The three angels were 'messengers' (astronauts from planet X. They were real men!
Angels can appear as men if they want to for the purpose ofbwhatever their mission is and the text says angels outright. Don't argue with the text about what the text says.
However, you are not completing the name of our Lord. Yahushua Mashiach or Mashiach Yahushua משיח יהושוע
Eliyahu=אליהו
Yahushua= יהושוע
Yahuhah=יהוה
The Mashiach Ben Yahuhah = האל משיח בן יהוה = 112
Adam = אדם=18
Eve = חוה = 19
Yahuhah = יהוה =26
63
מישך = 63
משיך
ששש = 63
Revelation Chapter 11
שני הזיתים=112
Milk = חלב = 22
King = מלך = 44
66 books of the Bible
23/23 chromosomes each parents is 46
112
האל משיח בן יהוה
אהיה אשר איהיה אליה
and Honey = ודנש = 33
חלב = 22
55
Only 3 ancestors with gematria of 55, one pre flood, one post flood. Are you man enough to find out? 5, 13, 21 = 39 משה
1-22 Son of Adam is 23
The doctrine of the Trinity is entrenched throughout the Old (Tanakh) and New Testaments. Man is in the image of God, and too is a trinity, spirit, soul and body.
Hermes is a God and an Angel, so with a trinity your argument doesn't work just as it would not with Greek religion. However, I have a big fish for you to fry.
Ehyeh means "I am", literally the first person singular "to be"
Yahweh means "He is", literally the third person singular "to be"
"And Elohim(Great Gods) said unto Moses, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh(I am who I am) [in other words Elohim said don't ask who I am]: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Ehyeh hath sent me unto you. And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Yahweh Elohi(He [who] is Great Gods of) your fathers, Elohi Abraham, Elohi Isaac, and Elohi Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my nature for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations." - Exodus 3:14-15
the problem is that unity can make a group into a singular entity even tho it is plural in nature.
El Elyon is Father of [the] Elim(Gods) ("When Elyon gave the nations as an inheritance, when he separated the sons of man, he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of El. For Yahweh's portion was his people; Jacob was the lot of his inheritance". - Deuteronomy 32:8-9 in the Dead Sea Scrolls)
Jesus was the Ba'al of Israel, but is later retitled as Ish. (see: Hosea 2:16, Isaiah 54:5, Deuteronomy 32:9) But note that I don't believe in Christian Biblical version of Jesus.
Ruach HaKodesh is named Chokmah/Wisdom in the book of Proverbs, but Ruach HaKodesh is a sevenfold spirit according to Christians.
When are You going to stop that??
I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now salvation and strength and the kingdom of God and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren who accused them day and night has been cast down."
That night the king could not sleep. So One was commanded to bring the book of the records of the Chronicles, and they were read before the king.
So let His robe and horse be delivered to the hand of one of the king's most Noble princes, that he may array the man whom the king delights to honor..Then parade him on horseback through the city square and proclaim Indonesia , or I forgot to mention that the episle to the Hebrews was given to The Jews to be recorded in the Law of the Persians and the Medes, so that it will not be altered, as to allow the whole book of Daniel to call herself a prophettess... (( For I was also delivered from the mouth of The Lions , but not with the mandate to raise up a mother in Israel as 5 Judges 😪😴 for " As I live" says the LORD God, surely in this place where the king dwells who made him king, whose oath he despised and whose covenant he broke - with him in the midst of Babylon he shall die ))
I don't how in the world this guy is a Jewish rabbi. He has no problem to butchering the Bible to disprove Christianity . It's ok to oppose us but at least be honest in your approach . Genesis 18 and 19 are the clearest chapters in the Bible about the multi personality within the being of God . It's true that some Christians run into a misreading of the texts to conclude that theses 3 men are the one true God because both Abraham and Lot address them as Lord. But the vastly majority of qualified Christians scholars understand that is not the case. A close reading of the texts shows that one of the men is God and the 2 others are angels as simple as that. The argument is over when we get to Genesis 19:24 when the God on earth drew fire from the God out of heaven . A literal interpretation goes like this : 2 Gods one on earth and one in heaven.. to make sense of the shema the doctrine of the trinity is the solution.one God 3 distincts persons.
*Sonny blaise:* So you know ZERO about the original Hebrew of God's ETERNAL Torah, and you DARE to disparage an extremely learned man such as Rabbi Singer??!! What unbelievable, self-righteous arrogance!! God ABHORS human sacrifice, therefore He did NOT have "Jesus" murdered to 'pay for people's sins' - this is preposterous, and is a HUGE insult to God. He DID NOT say anywhere in the Hebrew Bible (His ETERNAL Torah, given to Moses at Mt. Sinai) that he requires HUMAN blood to pay for sins! PLEASE do some honest research on the origins of Christianity FOR YOURSELF, and you will discover that it did NOT come from God, Creator of the universe.
Genesis 19:24
King James Version
24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
Yahweh rained sulpher FROM THE YAHWEH IN HEAVEN? Who are the 2 Yahweh's?
In their own texts, the jews were and are so stiff neck. they were only whipping boys to see what happens when you disobey God. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER!!! Have they changed? NO!
Isaiah 6:9-11 9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. 11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,
Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,
Trinity is just a word a word that helps us to know that Yahweh speaks through his son Jesus the living true word coming out of Jesus words is our God we will call him Mighty he's our King Jesus he is God in the flesh God With Us
I will and shell die in the name of Jesus Christ amen
*Edila Lewis:* Not a good idea! God ABHORS human sacrifice, therefore He did NOT have "Jesus" murdered to 'pay for people's sins' - this is preposterous, and is a HUGE insult to God. He DID NOT say anywhere in the Hebrew Bible (His ETERNAL Torah, given to Moses at Mt. Sinai) that he requires HUMAN blood to pay for sins! PLEASE do some honest research on the origins of Christianity FOR YOURSELF, and you will discover that it did NOT come from God, Creator of the universe.
@@janishart5128 I notice that Edila didn't reply to you. Could be she died already, poor lady.
@@MarkDiffin: Yeah, who knows! Also, a lot of times people don't answer when they know they've been proven wrong.
Tovia Singer is being disingenuous regarding this matter🤨🤔
How?
@@leolei03 Read all of Genesis 18👉 3 men = The LORD and 2 angels✅
Genesis 19:24
King James Version
24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
Yahweh rained sulpher FROM THE YAHWEH IN HEAVEN?
Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through?
This verse always made me wonder why Christians worship differently than Jews. I was born into a Christian family. I have read the bible my whole life. I have found home only this past week and I have found the truth and repented. I continue to weep in sorrow the years that have been lost. May HaShem have mercy. Thank you for all your videos Rabii Singer. I have devoured these words as a starving soul. God bless you.
He plays a lot of games, he is known for this don't misjudge Christian faith based on the heresies of one respected Rabbi.
This is the same Rabbi that lies and says that Jacob is named Israel because it means "wrestled with God" since He wrestled with God, this is a lie.
This is the same Rabbi that says Abraham was sacrificing Isaac to God and God intervened. Wrong and Wrong.
He is filled with lies.
Kate Usera many blessings to you!!! Same for me two months ago!! I've spent 40 years in complete idol worship! HaShem did not give any of us a religion. He gave us a covenant and a choice! I'm so thankful to finally know! Shalom!
Uchiha Shisui sir/ma'am, please ignore this Rabbi and his followers, they spread nothing but lies and mistruth.
He has never produced anything that has worth on his channel, he prostitutes God's Word for Muslims but then turns around and trashes Christians which is another sign of his gross manipulation and twisted-ness.
The end of the covenant is marked by the Messiah.
Tell me, what is the point of New Jerusalem? How does a person (Jew or non Jew) become an immortal citizen of that city like it says in Ezekiel?
I will not bother you if you answer me that question, In the Name of Jesus the Christ.
Oh, I didn't know you were from a Hindu background.
Aha, you are Muslim. Did you know Rabbi Tovia Singer shills for Muslims?
That is why you are comfortable with him. Muhammad is one of the first false prophets Jews will mention. Tovia Singer lives in a muslim country and has to watch what he says for the sake of his life.
I can show you brother Islam cannot be true, without disrespect of course.
Are you Sunni or Shia?
So you are Sunni muslim.
In Islam, Allah is one, he is one being and he is a spirit/ruh in arabic. Allah is on the throne in the spiritual realm and he has never left or moved etc.
But where is Muhammad right now? In barzakh?
I wonder: if Abraham had encountered 5 angels, would Christians believe in the Quinity?
I wonder that too! Hahaha plus, simple math, you have God's presence in the tent and 3 men standing outside the tent. So what, now we have a quadrinity? I tell Christians this sometimes and I'm met with "that's stupid " I ask why, it fits your beliefs perfectly you believe that these 3 guys are the trinity and you have God in the tent, so elementary school math, 4 beings. Hahaha they don't like that their proofs are not proofs but rather complete misapprehensions.
Lol
Stop it😂😂😂😂😂.
You killing me🤣
@@hitoshura2800the three men are not the trinity one of them was God Abraham bowed to one and called him Lord the other two where angels. Then he asked the same one to spare sodom. When Daniel bowed to the angel it was forbidden. Why is it this angel accepted Abraham bowing. Father son and holy spirit have never appeared together on earth as a trinity but every time every man had an encounter with God physically or visually this was an encounter with the living word the sam one that walked in the Garden in Genesis 3.
@@hitoshura2800 Did Abraham bow down to 3 men. Look at when the 2 went to Solomon gamora And the townspeople wanted the Men
U.S. President Truman destroyed two cities in Japan with "fire" from the sky and those cities were destroyed by men sent by President Truman.
@@busterbiloxi3833 this video..didn't you get it?
But those men didn't pretend to be President Truman! Duh!
@Abraham Mani Isaiah 43:11
IN ISLAM EVEN THIS METAPHOR OF CALLING PROPHETS,ANGELS,ETC.. GOD IS NOT ALLOWED AND ITS CONSIDERED AN IDOLATRY,BLASPHEMY.
@@gabrielleangelica1977 no no, its not a troll thing
Wasn't clear if you were evangelical or Muslim. 🤝
@@gabrielleangelica1977 muslim
@@B.Y.A Oh, thank Heaven! ☪️
@Abraham Mani Sorry, I'm not into paganism. 🏛️
Thank you Rabbi Singer for this amazing session. Not only you make things clearer but also strengthen my faith in HaShem and make me want to read Torah more. And I thank you for your patience in dealing with the idol worshippers who call themselves Crisstians. HaShem has blessed you with such patience trying to teach the truth to people who are not only blind but also def but not muted. So Mashiach now to mute them all!
@@Yce_Take What are you talking about?
@@Yce_Take And may I please ask kindly not to spell ineffable name like that. It’s a holy name for the Jews and the Noahides as unless your mouth, hand, pen, internet, and the audience is holy you are profaning his name. Instead if I may suggest call him HaShem means “The Name”.
@@Yce_Take So what is your question? I watched this video a year ago. Not sure what is that you are not understanding. Sorry just need you to provide little more background
@@Yce_Take To all the things you wrote I have one thing to say: CEASAR’S MESSIAH
It’s on TH-cam. Enjoy it! Not everyone is as blessed as you are.
@@Yce_Take You’re dangerously confused dear. In Genesis 18:19 it says “For I have singled him out, that he may instruct his children and his posterity to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is just and right, in order that the LORD may bring about for Abraham what He has promised him.” . Meaning Gd singled out Abraham because, knowing Abraham, our ancestor, he was very good at teaching, and Gd wanted Abraham to teach his instructions (which believed to be part of Oral Torah- Torah is the 5 Books of Moses:Genesis,Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy)
Let’s disect the sentence “that he may instruct his children and his posterity to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is just and right,” His children and his posterity. What does posterity mean? Future generations of people or the descendants of a person. So let’s apply Jesus here. If Gd singled out Abraham out of all peoples in the entire world and place his name in his Torah we must make sure to say Abraham peace be upon your name. So Abraham was singled out for what responsibility? “That he may instruct to keep the way of the LORD” Look at this!! How brilliant is my Torah! Not even one single unique mentioning of the name Jesus. Go watch Ceasar’s Messiah.
So Gd in fact says, that he singled out Abraham to instruct his children and posterity to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is just and right, in order that the LORD may bring about for Abraham what He has promised him.” . Not Jesus! Nope Gd doesn’t mention Jesus’ name once in a book made of 304805 letters. Good night 💤🌙😴
Exactly Rabbi Singer. This is good basic common sense. They were Shelosh Elohim (3 High Administrators, i.e. Lords) not the false father, sin, spirit trinity of confused Christians.
Bible reading outreach. Sir perhaps you can clarify vour reasons for devoting your entire childish diatribe to assualt the Rabbi's character. You do not even know hm sir yet you pass moral judgement on him. You should have listened to his points and then put forward your points. Painstakingly obvious you need to grow up
Who are you talking to besides yourself here?
@@altinokz wow wake up sister pay attention a bit. There are a multitude of comments. One was from a trinitarian attacking the dear Rabbi, That is who I was talking to in response. It was quite obvious had you taken the time to figure it out.
@@freefree526 sorry to much time has passed, I don't know what comment you are talking about but I am happy that you were defending our dear Rabbi.
@@altinokz of course, Rabbi Singer shows love to us, and to the christians, and he always tries to educate all people in the truth. Shalom sister.
@@freefree526 I found with Trinitarians it's a defense mechanism and it's their reaction because it shacks up their faith because many of them deep down have doubts of the trinity but have fears and were conditioned into fear that if they deny the trinity they will destined to hell.
I just love to hear when christians say jews confused and misinterpreted hebrew text😁😁😁
Read the Genesis 18 and 19 by yourself !!! Abraham was talking to the God YHWA himself while the 2 angels went to destroy Sodom and Camorra! Tovia is taking nonsense!!
@@dand1260 jew is talking nonsense 🤣🤣🤣. Religious of english translation knows better🤣🤣🤣
@@mohammedariffinadenan6250 Take a rabbinic translation if you doubt the others and check with the original!!! In the Original is the Name of God used as יהוה ז YHWA!!!
In translation would be Lord!
Take any translation an read by yourself to whom Abraham was talking to ??? No translation changes the meaning!!! Check by yourself!! The rabbi is fooling those ignorant as you are !!
@@dand1260 christians are awesome 🤣🤣🤣. It must be "hungry" ghost helps u guys
@@mohammedariffinadenan6250 What is "hungry" ghost ?
Ones Tovia gave an excellent example to how to train people who are working in the banks to recognize the counterfeit money?
They teach them how the REAL money look like !!!
The rabbi is talking to convince those like you who do not know what the Christians teach and what is exactly written in the Bible, that's why those like you cannot detect the lies!!!
But i did not just told you to believe me, but told you to SEARCH!!! This is what Jesus said: "SEARCH the scripture, because through the scriptures ONLY you can hope to have the Eternal life!!!
Search it and as a Muslim you are deceived also!!!
It appears that people who claim this as a trinity don't know how to read properly. God appears to Abraham in verse 1 PRIOR to the three angels (men) coming which only occurs in verse 2. It is a sequence of events. Not a combined event. Thus there are six overall stated in the following order. God, Abraham, three angels, Sarah, and Yishmael. (referred to as the youngster in verse 7)
How did God "appear" to Abraham?
Does Angels speak like they are God, who does things on their own.
Wow…Abraham was counted “righteous” because of his belief and faith in God.. Yes, he was a good man, but good men have flaws.. Didn’t he, Abraham, hide the truth of his wife to the King)
Again, his righteousness was connected to his faith..
Christians: reading the Bible exactly as it is written. 2 angels and God and not interpreting it as a reference to the trinity.
Jews: no, all 3 are angels, and Christians take this as a proof of the trinity.
Love you
At 23:25 Rabbi said (with a smirk on his face), "Jesus Christ...Christy Christ" in a derogatory way. As a Christian I am offended. We never do that to anyone because we have love of Jesus in our hearts.
Ok but ( you skipped this part) before they went to Sodom ....Verse 18: 1 says The LORD ( יהוה yhwh Yahweh) appeared to Abraham by the oaks..thats when Abraham saw THE THREE Men STANDING across from him....Abraham/Sarah and servants fixed them something to eat and then in verse 33 The Lord ( i.e. יַהְוֶה n.pr.dei Yahweh, the proper name of the God of Israel ) went on his way when he finished talking to Abraham. Then Abraham returned home. Then 2 Angels came to Sodom in verse 19:1 ( where was the third ( YHWH) from verse 18:2) dont skip over this. This is the main point. So read all of chapter 18 not just parts. Also Abraham had met and heard Gods voice before so dont you think when he heard his voice in the ( Angel of GOD, so to speak) that he recognized YHWH? I am sure.
Plus in Genesis Adam Heard GOD ( i.e. יַהְוֶה n.pr.dei Yahweh, the proper name of the God of Israel) walking in the Garden...., so God apparently robed himself in flesh this time as well. Because God is omni present.
God is spirit. You’re reading descriptions as literal instead of the intended way.
@@josephpack7315 is that right…hummm are you sure
@@frank7106 since the bible says NO MAN can see God and live, obviously you are mistaken. Why would God allow all those people to see Himself, but then hide himself from Moses when Moses asked to see His face?
@@josephpack7315 God does what he does.
God appeared to Moses in His full glory.
Read Gen 19:4
@Abraham Mani but what if the NT is false? That means anything it says is false. So you better start quoting OT if you want to prove anything here, friend
I know that the text is difficult. I find Rabbi Tovias explanation (found in Yonatan Ben Uziel and quoted by Rashi, difficult.) Abraham talks to the Lord and suddenly is in middle of s conversation with the angels. The Ibn Ezra rauls against a Trinitarian understanding. And of course, Ibn Ezra is correct. However, I feel most comfortable with the Rashbam's understanding: Hashem appeared to Avrohom through three messengers. And a messanger is like the sender. So Abraham calls the messangers in the name of Ado-noi as he is Hashem's messanger. It is a simple understanding and it makes sense. No Trinity, no God-man. Just messengers sent by God.
Messengers never speaks in first person but third person.
@@cptarchangel257 The whole point of the concept that "A messanger is like the sender" questions that assertion. Rashbam has a phenomenal grasp on the text. He could have deferred to earlier analysts. However, he tries to stay as close as possible to the natural reading of the text.
@Abraham Mani: STOP promoting idolatry here! NOWHERE did God EVER tell us to "receive eternal life", or "be saved" or anything even CLOSE! NOWHERE did God EVER mention the name "Jesus" to us - that name ONLY appears in the false, pagan "NT" that absolutely DID NOT come from God, and it blasphemously preaches AGAINST what God said to us at Mt. Sinai! God has NO son other than ISRAEL. Read Isa. 52-54 where God's 'son' is ALWAYS referred to as ISRAEL! Actually LISTEN to what Rabbi Singer is saying!!
Sorry I don't believe in the Trinity