KIA has the benefit of a long history with 7 and 8 seaters. Loved my 2008 Grand Carnival (Sedona). Lots of room, comfort and 3.8L power. This EV9 looks like a carry-on of this, minus the petrol engine. If I had the money it would be top of my list. Well done KIA. Thank you for showing this on this channel.
Nice first drive review. As someone who has had a Niro EV for the past year, I absolutely would buy the EV9 over the others. Quality looks really good and we cannot forget that 7 year Kia warranty. The Niro is a perfect size for my needs now but if you have a young family, the EV9 would be fantastic.
Love my (2023) Niro EV4. This one would be too big and too pricey for me, but delighted that KIA are continuing to forge ahead in the BEV market. First KIA I’ve owned and I’m a definite convert. Enjoy the channel, thank you.
Great review and great news on the driving experience, I am certain this is the replacement for my BMW iX and as soon as I can get pricing from the Salary Sacrifice company I will be placing an order.... Assuming the residuals have not priced it out of my budget .... Thanks Ginny
@@kiwan5425 Just not big enough for me I am afraid ...... I drove 24,000 miles on it with no problems but the 500L boot is just not big enough for a family of 5 to get off on Holiday with 5 full cases .... I recommend the iX to anyone who needs less boot space though ... its fabulous and SO well appointed
I’m an Audi eTron driver. Just had a look at the EV9 in a showroom. Seriously impressive car. Love the design. Not quite Audi materials, but it offers so much more - space, equipment, tech , charging speed etc and for less money too. Want to see the Ioniq 7 before I sign up to lease one as a replacement for the Audi.
In my experience of range rovers, it is going to be much more reliable than anything they make. But like everything this size, merc and the rest included, it is too big for the UK.
I know nobody cares... but the fake buttons are capacative buttons! Haptic feedback is simply the vibration you get when you press one. Just like your smartphone has a capacative screen which may or may not give haptic feedback depending on whether or not you turn on vibrations. I'm not moaning at Electrifying, I love this channel... and in any case, all car channels are guilty of this. Anyway, back to the video. I really like the EV9. I owed a 27kWh Soul and loved it. But the price of an EV9... I could get an ID Buzz for similar money. And I think if I ever did have £60k+ I probably wouldn't get an EV9.
I’ll be ordering one next year. Now Tesla no longer make the 7 seat Model X in RHD ( and even if they still did it would be over £100K) for £76K, 7 seats, all electric, and with over 300 miles of range the EV9 is actually great value.
The value on this car is just mad. No competition comes even close to the figures this car costs in terms of bang for buck. It is just ridiculous how far in the back windown the competition is when it comes to large EV design and price compared to quality and features.
I suppose it has exclusivity on its side at this stage anyway with no other electric 6 seaters other than the Model X, I'm guessing. To be fair, it looks great inside in my eyes. There is the EX 90 coming as well as the Ionic 7. EVs, especially with a 100kw battery, are still pricey, too
Looks better than the BMW IX...and the EQS. and those cars are way more expensive. In the US, it looks to be right at 70k USD for the gt line. which undercuts both by a substantial amount.
Looks better from inside imo; exterior won’t be to all tastes, and I’m struggling with that! You have to applaud Kia though for making this, and putting themselves in the 6-7 seater market with little realistic competition. Should go on to be a roaring success, but I’m going to hold back and see how Ford go with the new electric Galaxy.
Can you do a proper review of the Microlinio? An actual, in the rain, pothole avoiding one. I’m really interested in it as a city car, but it’s a huge leap to commit to one without anything but the puff pieces that have been produced so far.
Right up there with the e-niro, by the look of it. It’s challenging combustion cars in the area where they were previously supremely dominant. And there seems to be massive sales in this area with families with infant children. Easier to take the little ones in and out of, I imagine.
can someone please tell me why so many cars that we see on here aree lefthand drive i know sometimes they are being shown from places like spain but were in the uk so any help there in cheers
If you need the space to house extra people it's a pretty decent package and given the spec and interior it's... err hmm a decent price considering some of the options taking into account the decent warranty and reliability. But it is stull a huge amount of cash however you look at it. For airport or hotel executive taxis this should make a lot of sense ferrying the corporate VIP's around. It may never end up on my drive but I sure do like it. Many thanks Ginny for sharing.
Man I would love to see the shocked face when a coprorate VIP orders a "limo"-service and a 6-seater Relax version drives up with a chauffeur in black suit. Dude jumps in the back right seat and feels absolute S-class ridiculousness with the reclining electric seats and that legroom/headscpace combination. Makes you rethink brands all of a sudden.
First thought huge, second odd looks but then I thought so is a G-Wagon but this half the price. So I had a second look at this 5 meter long monster. It’s practical and for the price you do get a lot including big cup holders for Ginny. The id buzz springs to mind as a alternative to carry a large family around but it’s limited range and lack of performance would make me think. Not for me but I think we will see a few of these around London and on the school run.
Really good review here, but it’s very expensive and it would be interesting to see what the actual range figures would be for the target “audience” ie a 4-5+ family on a fully laden journey, considering you can pick up a 7 seater Kodiaq for half the price, you could plant a lot of trees for £35K…
Won’t look quite so attractive wedged into UK parking spaces in the supermarket. It may look pretty up a Spanish mountain and it might pollute less than a conventional barge but is just as dangerous to pedestrians in town (where they will be used).
Love the looks of the car, especially in that blue. That shinny black plastic trim looks great when new. Couple of trips to the supermarket, and a few grannies with out of control trolleys later and it will look 💩
Great review @ginny - interesting car! Lovely colour too. I would definitely prefer to JLR (but I’d prefer a LADA to one of those 🤣) needs driving…. Thanks!
We have an XC90 T8 PHEV and I've been thinking about when we need to replace it. I love the amount of space it has and it's a great car, but we are debating going fully electric with both cars. Whilst this would be a great option: I think it would be more sensible to get something smaller for our day to day and if absolutely necessary, hire a large car for longer trips (maybe once a year). It's a really tough one, but I want to try to follow the philosophy of getting a smaller car and keeping it for the lifespan of that car.
You can not ignore the fact of when you get to drive this (go and do that). The absolute BOSS-feeling this car gives while driving is unmatched. I was lucky to drive this couple of days ago and a BMW iX and a Model X felt like a peasants car.
@@Harhawink lol I think if I wanted that feeling I’d have a G63! 😂 the Taycan is nice enough for my own use, with the family if needed, it’s more just a nice comfortable family day to day we want and I can’t decide between massive with lots of space and smaller more practical for Englands roads/car parks. I’m erring on the smaller more practical side tbh
Finished product looks better than the concept, which was way too boxy for me. Nothing to dislike apart from the price. Ouch!, if i was forkng that amount of money out, i'd want much more miles out of a charge
How much do you drive per day? People get stupid with range. Charge time should be more of a priority and even then it isn't really a defining concern. Considering how much they normally drive on average...and Considering most people would charge at home every night. Hell I have owned an EV for 5 years now on level 1 charging...and never ever have issues in the winter. Obsessing over range is stupid once you get over 200 miles
I think that the planet would probably be better off if we all hung on to our 10 or even 20-year-old 7-seaters for a decade or two longer and let car manufacturers concentrate on more affordable electric cars. We're doing no living thing any good by producing 2.6-tonne behemoths using 100kWh batteries.
Another car that doesn't fit into a parking space in the UK. I thought the idea of EVs was that the packaging would be so good that you could fit more people into a smaller car. It just seems that they get bigger and bigger. I know I'm in the minority and it seems a lot of people want the largest car they can afford regardless of whether they need the space or not. I am a hypocrite in a way because I live alone in a three bedroom house.
Living in America...yes you are in the minority. This is meant for larger markets like North America....although I can see this doing well in northern Europe as well. I mean is the UK still a major market?
Sure it's a well designed practical family car but just imagine trying to get this into your adverage UK parking space. Yes it might just fit but how much room are you going to have to open the doors if there are already cars either side of you ?. That's where this becomes a non starter.
If 7 people sit there and I wonder where will they place their luggage (luggage for 7 people, not necessary 7 luggages but for 7 people). I don't see good space for luggage if all 7 sits there :)
Good Looking EV-SUV car... Would like to see a side by side test with other EV-SUV cars,, Also the test should be on the base version on each EV-SUV Car !!
£20k less means it be would cheaper than Kia’s other smaller EV’s 🤣 The EV9 is the cheapest car in it’s class, by about £30k ! Welcome to 2023 car prices
@@yitzele - All car prices are up, starting from 2022, so you need to adjust your price thresholds ! Else every car you see will be ''well overpriced'🤣
Once again we saw a road test review from What Car, that shows how it should be done. I for one am not that interested in Ginny's coffee mug! Rather more important is the look and feel of this car, which What Car sensibly points out, is not good enough at this price point. Its fine having testers like Nicola Hume who produces videos more for entertainment than as anything serious, but if you are going to be serious channel you really need to up your game!
Looks like a transit van, interior looks cheap and nasty, try driving this van in a UK city street. Dies nothing for UK economy, from a country that still eats dogs
If you need the carry the people. This uses less energy than two small EVs still. If it was about environmental impact per £, plugin hybrids would be thing they promote and not EVs.
@@MrRaitzi Plugin in Hybrids can never make back the emissions used in their manufacture as they are still creating them when used. Whille it will take a long time for something this big it is still very much possible.
@@MrRaitzi Do that life cycle emissions factor in the fuel emissions? Also plug-in hybrids produce far more emissions in real world tests as people use them on motor ways more than the test cycle.
Too expensive, especially the base trim with mediocre performance and interior which doesn’t match other luxury vehicles from Mercedes, Lexus, etc… at the same price range
Sorry - which large (5m+) FULL 7 seat Mercedes SUV can you buy “at this price point”. An EQS SUV is about £140,000 vs this at say £60k or about 40% Mercedes do not make anything that even remotely matches this at anything even close to the price - you need to take off the blinkers.
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KIA has the benefit of a long history with 7 and 8 seaters. Loved my 2008 Grand Carnival (Sedona). Lots of room, comfort and 3.8L power. This EV9 looks like a carry-on of this, minus the petrol engine. If I had the money it would be top of my list. Well done KIA. Thank you for showing this on this channel.
I only have 3 people who would use the passenger seating, but there's something about this KIA EV9 that makes me REALLY WANT IT ❤
Nice first drive review.
As someone who has had a Niro EV for the past year, I absolutely would buy the EV9 over the others. Quality looks really good and we cannot forget that 7 year Kia warranty.
The Niro is a perfect size for my needs now but if you have a young family, the EV9 would be fantastic.
I have an EV6 GT-Line, that I love. I don't need an EV9 at all - but I really want one😄
This is the first EV9 video on youtube that I find the car color is really accurate.
It‘s a huge beast but i love the design, i would never be in need for such a huge car, but Kia seems to outplay some other brands here
Love my (2023) Niro EV4. This one would be too big and too pricey for me, but delighted that KIA are continuing to forge ahead in the BEV market. First KIA I’ve owned and I’m a definite convert.
Enjoy the channel, thank you.
love your review just right. I test drove the ev9 yesterday 23rd December mine is on its way date given 15th January i love it so much.Its a dream
Great review and great news on the driving experience, I am certain this is the replacement for my BMW iX and as soon as I can get pricing from the Salary Sacrifice company I will be placing an order.... Assuming the residuals have not priced it out of my budget .... Thanks Ginny
What's up with your iX?
@@kiwan5425 Just not big enough for me I am afraid ...... I drove 24,000 miles on it with no problems but the 500L boot is just not big enough for a family of 5 to get off on Holiday with 5 full cases .... I recommend the iX to anyone who needs less boot space though ... its fabulous and SO well appointed
It really is a stunner. Great video (as always) team!
I’m an Audi eTron driver. Just had a look at the EV9 in a showroom. Seriously impressive car. Love the design. Not quite Audi materials, but it offers so much more - space, equipment, tech , charging speed etc and for less money too. Want to see the Ioniq 7 before I sign up to lease one as a replacement for the Audi.
In my experience of range rovers, it is going to be much more reliable than anything they make. But like everything this size, merc and the rest included, it is too big for the UK.
I love it. Now, make something a tiny bit smaller - EV7 - and I'm yours.
I know nobody cares... but the fake buttons are capacative buttons! Haptic feedback is simply the vibration you get when you press one. Just like your smartphone has a capacative screen which may or may not give haptic feedback depending on whether or not you turn on vibrations.
I'm not moaning at Electrifying, I love this channel... and in any case, all car channels are guilty of this.
Anyway, back to the video. I really like the EV9. I owed a 27kWh Soul and loved it. But the price of an EV9... I could get an ID Buzz for similar money. And I think if I ever did have £60k+ I probably wouldn't get an EV9.
Capacitive
I’ll be ordering one next year. Now Tesla no longer make the 7 seat Model X in RHD ( and even if they still did it would be over £100K) for £76K, 7 seats, all electric, and with over 300 miles of range the EV9 is actually great value.
The value on this car is just mad. No competition comes even close to the figures this car costs in terms of bang for buck. It is just ridiculous how far in the back windown the competition is when it comes to large EV design and price compared to quality and features.
I've had my E.V kia niro level 4 for 2 months and I love it the kit they give you is great 👍 👌
At just under £77'000 it had better feel nice and plush.
I suppose it has exclusivity on its side at this stage anyway with no other electric 6 seaters other than the Model X, I'm guessing. To be fair, it looks great inside in my eyes. There is the EX 90 coming as well as the Ionic 7. EVs, especially with a 100kw battery, are still pricey, too
Looks better than the BMW IX...and the EQS. and those cars are way more expensive. In the US, it looks to be right at 70k USD for the gt line. which undercuts both by a substantial amount.
Looks better from inside imo; exterior won’t be to all tastes, and I’m struggling with that! You have to applaud Kia though for making this, and putting themselves in the 6-7 seater market with little realistic competition.
Should go on to be a roaring success, but I’m going to hold back and see how Ford go with the new electric Galaxy.
Do you plan to test the V2G feature in the future when it becomes available ?
Ginney, totally agree with your views, id definitely have one, especially in that loveky blue.
@Ginny As you were not climbing a mountain for this test drive, could you comment on the efficiency you saw while driving the EV9? Thank you.
Can you do a proper review of the Microlinio? An actual, in the rain, pothole avoiding one. I’m really interested in it as a city car, but it’s a huge leap to commit to one without anything but the puff pieces that have been produced so far.
Right up there with the e-niro, by the look of it. It’s challenging combustion cars in the area where they were previously supremely dominant. And there seems to be massive sales in this area with families with infant children. Easier to take the little ones in and out of, I imagine.
can someone please tell me why so many cars that we see on here aree lefthand drive i know sometimes they are being shown from places like spain but were in the uk so any help there in cheers
If you need the space to house extra people it's a pretty decent package and given the spec and interior it's... err hmm a decent price considering some of the options taking into account the decent warranty and reliability. But it is stull a huge amount of cash however you look at it. For airport or hotel executive taxis this should make a lot of sense ferrying the corporate VIP's around. It may never end up on my drive but I sure do like it. Many thanks Ginny for sharing.
Man I would love to see the shocked face when a coprorate VIP orders a "limo"-service and a 6-seater Relax version drives up with a chauffeur in black suit. Dude jumps in the back right seat and feels absolute S-class ridiculousness with the reclining electric seats and that legroom/headscpace combination.
Makes you rethink brands all of a sudden.
Best Kia design yet
First thought huge, second odd looks but then I thought so is a G-Wagon but this half the price. So I had a second look at this 5 meter long monster. It’s practical and for the price you do get a lot including big cup holders for Ginny. The id buzz springs to mind as a alternative to carry a large family around but it’s limited range and lack of performance would make me think. Not for me but I think we will see a few of these around London and on the school run.
Thank goodness a proper large SUV that can take it to Mercedes GLS or Range Rover. As long as you can get over badge snobbery.
Really good review here, but it’s very expensive and it would be interesting to see what the actual range figures would be for the target “audience” ie a 4-5+ family on a fully laden journey, considering you can pick up a 7 seater Kodiaq for half the price, you could plant a lot of trees for £35K…
Rear wiper?
Won’t look quite so attractive wedged into UK parking spaces in the supermarket. It may look pretty up a Spanish mountain and it might pollute less than a conventional barge but is just as dangerous to pedestrians in town (where they will be used).
great review practical
Love the looks of the car, especially in that blue.
That shinny black plastic trim looks great when new. Couple of trips to the supermarket, and a few grannies with out of control trolleys later and it will look 💩
Your spelling of shiny and trollies doesn't look great.
@@Nickbaldeagle02
I'll give you shiny , predictive text is great.
As for trollies, it's a plural noun.
Your English knowledge isn't great, is it 🤣🤣
Great review @ginny - interesting car! Lovely colour too. I would definitely prefer to JLR (but I’d prefer a LADA to one of those 🤣) needs driving…. Thanks!
We have an XC90 T8 PHEV and I've been thinking about when we need to replace it. I love the amount of space it has and it's a great car, but we are debating going fully electric with both cars. Whilst this would be a great option: I think it would be more sensible to get something smaller for our day to day and if absolutely necessary, hire a large car for longer trips (maybe once a year). It's a really tough one, but I want to try to follow the philosophy of getting a smaller car and keeping it for the lifespan of that car.
You can not ignore the fact of when you get to drive this (go and do that). The absolute BOSS-feeling this car gives while driving is unmatched. I was lucky to drive this couple of days ago and a BMW iX and a Model X felt like a peasants car.
@@Harhawink lol I think if I wanted that feeling I’d have a G63! 😂 the Taycan is nice enough for my own use, with the family if needed, it’s more just a nice comfortable family day to day we want and I can’t decide between massive with lots of space and smaller more practical for Englands roads/car parks. I’m erring on the smaller more practical side tbh
Oh do grow up, it sounds like your lacking something @Harhawink
Looks like a large KIA Soul to me.
Jack got in the back seats that's on The Fully Charged
EV9 'GT-Line S 6 Seat' @ £76,995 before options - ha ha ha ha ha ha
Cheapest range rover before options £102k…
What do you think Land Rover will charge for their unreliable, old tech BEV ? If they get to launch one before going bankrupt (which they deserve to).
Great review Jenny
i wish i had the money to buy this Ev9 love it👍
Finished product looks better than the concept, which was way too boxy for me. Nothing to dislike apart from the price. Ouch!, if i was forkng that amount of money out, i'd want much more miles out of a charge
How much do you drive per day? People get stupid with range. Charge time should be more of a priority and even then it isn't really a defining concern. Considering how much they normally drive on average...and Considering most people would charge at home every night. Hell I have owned an EV for 5 years now on level 1 charging...and never ever have issues in the winter. Obsessing over range is stupid once you get over 200 miles
I understand the coffee cup situation I'm the same
I'm a huge fan of this vehicle but not completely convinced that folks will spend $75K for a Kia. We shall see.
I’m struggling to understand this. With a 100kWh battery pack (BTW, any word on what the chemistry is?) and 2.5ton in weight, it seems at odds.
At odds with what?
@@Nickbaldeagle02 The whole green thing.
Soon to have vtg as well 😊👍👍
Good luck selling this model. The price is well into the European and British marque territory.
I think that the planet would probably be better off if we all hung on to our 10 or even 20-year-old 7-seaters for a decade or two longer and let car manufacturers concentrate on more affordable electric cars. We're doing no living thing any good by producing 2.6-tonne behemoths using 100kWh batteries.
Is that actually correct?? My 2012 XC90 uses 15L/100km, so another 100,000km will release 35t of CO2.
Fully loaded in canada comes in at 45,000 pounds but we have a free trade agreement with Korea.
And that’s the right price @Holeyguagaamoley.
If only a car manufacturer would invent a people carrier....
Wouldn’t touch a Land Rover with a barge pole! But the Kia EV9 on the other hand….
Its a great family car
Oh jesus. The old "low centre of gravity". Just waiting for the "wind and tyre noise which is more noticeable because there's no engine".
Another car that doesn't fit into a parking space in the UK. I thought the idea of EVs was that the packaging would be so good that you could fit more people into a smaller car. It just seems that they get bigger and bigger. I know I'm in the minority and it seems a lot of people want the largest car they can afford regardless of whether they need the space or not. I am a hypocrite in a way because I live alone in a three bedroom house.
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If you want small, you can choose a Citroën Ami (and its derivatives), the Microlino or if you need more space and speed a Fiat 500e or Citroën ë-C3.
Living in America...yes you are in the minority. This is meant for larger markets like North America....although I can see this doing well in northern Europe as well. I mean is the UK still a major market?
I have a spare room for my musical instruments.
Just a tip, the smaller the car, the smaller the range.
Have you ever thought about just getting a different cup ?
a Ginny in the boot- hasn't been one of them for a while🤣
you can get a nio es8 half the price and better overall........ its 7seter also.
Sure it's a well designed practical family car but just imagine trying to get this into your adverage UK parking space.
Yes it might just fit but how much room are you going to have to open the doors if there are already cars either side of you ?.
That's where this becomes a non starter.
If anyone buys this barge in the uk then they are stupid
Enormous!
Did not want to like it but I do
Well priced...
Who actually needs something this size?
It’s humongous and in no way a ‘green’ car?
Who buys this. The very well off can/do. Thats 1.4% of the UKs population BTW.
To big for me waiting for the ev5
If 7 people sit there and I wonder where will they place their luggage (luggage for 7 people, not necessary 7 luggages but for 7 people). I don't see good space for luggage if all 7 sits there :)
Good Looking EV-SUV car... Would like to see a side by side test with other EV-SUV cars,, Also the test should be on the base version on each EV-SUV Car !!
Looks like something out of Robocop
Looks like an LWB Landrover...
Its a lovely car but £1000 a month on a lease. Yikes
The price is outrageously high. Kia should be selling this for at least 20k less
20k less? Compare it to the German equivalents and you’ll be splurging out 100k+ for the same equipment levels.
£20k less means it be would cheaper than Kia’s other smaller EV’s 🤣
The EV9 is the cheapest car in it’s class, by about £30k !
Welcome to 2023 car prices
@@123silentassassin those are way overpriced too. The residuals speak for themselves
@@SDK2006b how does that make it any better. The EV6 is way overpriced too. And there's currently no class of "regular" brands 7 seat EVs
@@yitzele - All car prices are up, starting from 2022, so you need to adjust your price thresholds !
Else every car you see will be ''well overpriced'🤣
Kia, for those that don’t need a Titanic-on-wheels to bolster a fragile ego, where’s the EV1/2/3? 🤔
The EV3 concept looks great.
There are already a bunch of options in that market segment though. This is the first ev that can actually seat 7people from a mainstream automaker.
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Once again we saw a road test review from What Car, that shows how it should be done. I for one am not that interested in Ginny's coffee mug! Rather more important is the look and feel of this car, which What Car sensibly points out, is not good enough at this price point. Its fine having testers like Nicola Hume who produces videos more for entertainment than as anything serious, but if you are going to be serious channel you really need to up your game!
Thats wayyy too boxey
This isn't a review. This is an advertisement. Shame 👎
Looks like a square box on wheels, ugly for a car that cost in excess of $100 grand
as always kia/hyundai are style over substance and after awhile of owning it, you will realize how shallow their cars really are.
Too expensive, what happened to KIA producing quality cheap cars…
Looks like a transit van, interior looks cheap and nasty, try driving this van in a UK city street. Dies nothing for UK economy, from a country that still eats dogs
There really is no need of a car this size and it certainty will not reduce whole life CO2 emissions.
If you need the carry the people. This uses less energy than two small EVs still. If it was about environmental impact per £, plugin hybrids would be thing they promote and not EVs.
@@MrRaitzi Plugin in Hybrids can never make back the emissions used in their manufacture as they are still creating them when used. Whille it will take a long time for something this big it is still very much possible.
@@narvuntien plugin hybrids do much better than EVs in life cycle emissions still.
@@MrRaitzi Do that life cycle emissions factor in the fuel emissions? Also plug-in hybrids produce far more emissions in real world tests as people use them on motor ways more than the test cycle.
A family of 4 kids and 2 dogs? They exist you know.
Way overpriced imo
Too expensive, especially the base trim with mediocre performance and interior which doesn’t match other luxury vehicles from Mercedes, Lexus, etc… at the same price range
Sorry - which large (5m+) FULL 7 seat Mercedes SUV can you buy “at this price point”. An EQS SUV is about £140,000 vs this at say £60k or about 40%
Mercedes do not make anything that even remotely matches this at anything even close to the price - you need to take off the blinkers.
@@gw4182 people cross shop EV or ICE within the same price range.
Over priced kia 😂
Dang no Nicola again?!?! 😢😢