I've lost track of how many times I've wanted the Indians to win, even though I know they didn't. Thank you 💛 for your excellent work. I enjoyed watching. Looking forward to seeing more.
There is an important part of the Sand Creek massacre that shouldn't be left out here. That chief raised the US flag because the band that was attacked at Sand Creek was friendly. John Chivington attacked the wrong group and his massacre was fueled by pure racist bloodlust. One of the other commanders present that day was Silas Soule, who knew that the camp they were attacking was friendly, and that this was just a rage massacre of civilians. He belayed Chivington's orders and instead ordered his men to stand down. Soule would go on to write a damning letter detailing the savagery of Chivington's men to the congress, as well as to his friend and contemporary the poet Walt Witman. The truth about this massacre spread far and wide, and while this wouldn't lead to disciplinary action against Chivington during his time in the military, it did ruin his political aspirations as he became known as "the butcher of sand creek". You can find that letter online today, and it's displayed at the Sand Creek massacre site, and I recommend reading it. Soule was later murdered in the streets of Denver by some of Chivington's men. There is a plaque in that spot today. Before joining the Colorado 1st, Silas had served as part of the network of "conductors" on the underground railroad helping slaves escape to the north, and he also fought in abolitionist militias during the bleeding Kansas period along side another friend, John Brown. Silas Soule is a true hero, and here in Colorado we still decorate his grave today.
Thank you. On Memorial week we ought to remember the American Indigenous People who fought bravely to hold onto their land and way of life. They, too, were Patriots.
how about all of the native american service members who fought for all of our freedoms. they believed in the U.S.A. too, don't forget, compromise, right?
Bowdoin College was the home of Professor Joshua Chamberlain, the hero of Little Round Top and, who was wounded multiple times, was promoted to brevet Major General and accepted Lee's surrender from John Gordon of Georgia, another great volunteer officer. Both men served as governors of their respective states. Give the time Beecher attended Bowdoin College, Chamberlain was almost probably one of his professors.
The remark that Carrington, “by all accounts,” ordered Fetterman not to cross Lodge Trail Ridge is somewhat misleading. There was only one account, and it was Carrington’s, because everyone else present died that day. It was, I’m pretty sure, Carrington’s exciuse for having allowed the sally in the first place. His first wife, who was at the fort, repeated her husband’s claim in her book about the episode. After she died, Carrington married the young widow of Lieutenant Grummond (who was a bigamist, and had left another wife back East). This second wife, who was also at the fort, wrote about the experience-probably with Carrington’s encouragement-and she, too, emphasized Carrington’s self-serving claim. I don't think either wife actually heard the exchange between Carrington and Fetterman, and it would perfectly fit Carrington’s deceitful character to put the blame on a dead man. The legend that Carrington was suspected of cowardice by his men is almost certainly true. Although he nominally commended the 18th U.S. Infantry throughout the Civil War, he spent that entire conflict finagling to avoid service in the field. His favorite ploy was promoting a theory of disloyal "Copperheads" conspiring to overthrow the government in order to make his "intelligence" work indispensable to Indiana Governor Oliver Morton, who interceded whenever Carrington was ordered to the front. General Sherman himself admitted being aware of Carrington's horror of danger. Fetterman, having served through the war in the field with the 18th Infantry, would have been fully posted on Carrington's timidity. I suspect Carrington was also the original source of the assertion that Fetterman boasted about riding roughshod over the whole Sioux nation with 80 men. The quote is just too perfect, since that was exactly how many men Fetterman led into his last fight.
Everyone present didn't die that day. Carrington was heard by witnesses inside the fort warning against chasing the indian past Lodge Trai Ridge. Read "Indian Fights and Fighters: The Soldier and The Sioux" by Cyrus Townsend Brady. He lived back then and interviewed many of the individuals who were at Fort Phil Kearney. This book is as contemporary as it gets.
By coincidence in the day of Dec, 21 (my birthday), Fetterman had 80 men. As the enjoyable history, "The Long Death" noted as Fetterman attacked, "While the entire Sioux nation was not on the other side of the ridge, there were enough to test his theory."
Ironic? There are three very famous Lakota sioux Indian war leader chiefs! Actually name American horse. To the Oglala, minneaconjou and the hunkpapa bands. Of the proud warrior people of the north great plains. A must admired very typical name to the very proud Lakota sioux indian people. My great inspiring wisdom for today. Have a great fabulous wonderful day.😀
When I was at the age of 13 I read " Bury my heart at Wounded Knee" it for ever changed my impression of American politics and the treatment of the native population of American. They went to war to free the black slaves and distory the native peoples for gread.
This information is in the Lance and shield, the life an times of sittingbull. The Lakota sioux indian wars actually extended to 1881, Near the Canadian Montana territory. The very large Lakota sioux indian encampment had been hidden away since October 1876 along the popular river region of Montana territory near the Canadian border. The us found out by word of a crow Indian scouting party were the Lakota sioux indian people's hidden place is at! They sent a us soldiers there! A large number of us soldiers would cross the frozen river and open fire at a very large encampment of over three hundred hunkpapa and Oglala Lakota sioux Indian encampment site! Know as the battle of the popular river January 2nd 1881, the frighten sioux Indian people would escape north to the serounding hills! One woman was screaming to end the very fierce fighting! She was hit by a stray flying bullets! Eight poor innocent Lakota sioux Indian warrior people lay dead on the frozen snow near their encampment site! The fighting would last over a hour! In the us favor probably because they had way better of the most powerful weapons in use! All the Lakota sioux indian people came down an surrendered to the us military! Crowking of the Oglala Lakota sioux indian people and chief gall of the hunkpapa Lakota sioux indian people. Chief gall look like a an old Roman General when he handed his weapon to the us commander! The very last us military campaign of early January 1881. No us soldiers were killed in this operation! Just eight poor innocent Lakota sioux Indian warrior people! The once very proudly Lakota sioux warrior people would have to walk to the over twenty miles to fort Burford ND in the very hard frozen temperatures will under us military prisoners of war! This actually happened a decade before the wounded knee massacre December 29th 1890. My great inspiring wisdom for today. Have a great fabulous wonderful day.😀
If Sand Creek was the flashpoint, why was the war fought on Crow land? Fetterman Massacre, Wagon Box, and the Hayfield fight were all within treaty Crow land. Perhaps the conflict had more to do with Sioux trying to establish more control over the rich hunting ground of the Big Horn Mountains? The Bozeman Trail (again vast majority on Crow land) and specifically the military posts posed an obstacle to the Sioux being able to carry out their campaign to either eliminate or push the Crow out of the Big Horns. See Battle of Pryor Creek between the Crow and Sioux. Sand Creek may have helped increase tensions, but there a number of far more immediate causes to the Red Cloud War that should be explored.
Chivington and the Colorado troops were mostly raw militia...a fair % little better than bar sweeps. A regular Army officer who was going to testify against Chivington and the Governor was murdered in Denver. By the time that the Army high brass fully made aware, the "100 Dayzers" were discharged and beyond Army discipline. Black Kettle had tried to locate next to the fort, but was ordered to camp far away at Sand Creek...making them "fair game" for Chivington who couldn't have found, let alone fought...actual hostiles. Chivington had managed to do some actual service to the country against a Confederate column earlier...but by this point his ambition, combined with his fanaticism...resulted in wanton murder. YP
"On the high plains of North America, during the mid-1860's in the area that would become the State of Colorado a decade later, clashes between the..." just a suggestion.
Not all greed. Settlers a better life are not the same as gold fever. It's sad history. Not black and white. As a historian I've learned not to use presenting too much but rather to try and place myself in that time.
First of all there ain't no such thing as a peaceful Village if these people have raided settlers and murdered them just because they were all sleeping thinking they were far away and safe don't mean that they're a peaceful Village
How come the casualty and fighting parties estimated numbers,always seem to vary by such ridiculously large margins? I mean 100 and 600 should be very obvious with no more than a second or two glance? I mean ya could probly do better than that,more often than not blind folded and guessing. Were there a larger percentage of the population that were just straight full of 💩? Or was there a very large number of people who simply could not count but would just blurt out any type of number that they could recall hearing before thinkin nobody be able to tell they couldnt count!? Or was it intentional to seem bigger and badder to any of those who may be considering whether or not it'd be smart to move on us ? I mean some of these numbers couldn't even be accomplished by Rambo,Chuck Norris, the A-Team,Super Man and Wonder Woman and her invisible jet for air support all working in unison and under the comand of Rooster Cogburn and the Outlaw Josey Wales.
@@bonnieprincecharlie6248 I think that's definitely one reason for it. I could be wrong. But most (if not all) estimated, pre-battle, native warriors to u.s. troops acounts I've heard. Seem to be laid on, quite a bit thicker. Than even the most questionable post battle casualty numbers. And it kind of makes me think that it was most likely intentionally done for political purposes.
@@stevenfrench7940 Chuck is a dangerous man no doubt about it,buddy! But I've seen an interview with him saying that much like u.s. army estimates in Custer's day. His body count has gotten way outta hand. Mainly due to the extremely large number of his fanbase that aren't. To put in his own words,"I wouldn't ever say that they're nuts. But they probably aren't well." And his true body count is actually only halfway to infinity. But if they could've formed a special emergency crack team consisting of Joey Diaz at the hight of his karate school days,the Kung fu Hillbilly, Philo Betto's "ma" from any which way you can,Randall Tex Cobb and Shirley from what's happenin. With Walker Texas Ranger in charge!? And a time machine with Capt. Kirk at the helm and Chunk from the Goonies as door gunner to get em in and outta there. I can guarangoddamtee ya little big horn would've went down alot more different than it did! There would've been alot of lives saved I could tell you that. They may have even talked it out.
It blows my mind you don’t have at least a million subscribers. One of the best channels on TH-cam.
I've lost track of how many times I've wanted the Indians to win, even though I know they didn't. Thank you 💛 for your excellent work. I enjoyed watching. Looking forward to seeing more.
Thank you Judith!
There is an important part of the Sand Creek massacre that shouldn't be left out here. That chief raised the US flag because the band that was attacked at Sand Creek was friendly. John Chivington attacked the wrong group and his massacre was fueled by pure racist bloodlust. One of the other commanders present that day was Silas Soule, who knew that the camp they were attacking was friendly, and that this was just a rage massacre of civilians. He belayed Chivington's orders and instead ordered his men to stand down. Soule would go on to write a damning letter detailing the savagery of Chivington's men to the congress, as well as to his friend and contemporary the poet Walt Witman. The truth about this massacre spread far and wide, and while this wouldn't lead to disciplinary action against Chivington during his time in the military, it did ruin his political aspirations as he became known as "the butcher of sand creek". You can find that letter online today, and it's displayed at the Sand Creek massacre site, and I recommend reading it. Soule was later murdered in the streets of Denver by some of Chivington's men. There is a plaque in that spot today.
Before joining the Colorado 1st, Silas had served as part of the network of "conductors" on the underground railroad helping slaves escape to the north, and he also fought in abolitionist militias during the bleeding Kansas period along side another friend, John Brown. Silas Soule is a true hero, and here in Colorado we still decorate his grave today.
Thank you for sharing this information.
Wow that letter is gut wrenching. I can’t even fathom that event in person
One of the best channels on TH-cam
This channel along with Wild West Extravaganza are by far the best at telling these stories in my opinion.
Bloody Beaver Buddy.
Dates and dead guys is also a good western history channel.
Thank you. On Memorial week we ought to remember the American Indigenous People who fought bravely to hold onto their land and way of life. They, too, were Patriots.
Can't disagree more. But we have opinions
how about all of the native american service members who fought for all of our freedoms. they believed in the U.S.A. too, don't forget, compromise, right?
Thanks for all your work! It really has helped me through rough some times 😊
Awesome, I love these longer form videos!👏🏼🙌🏼👏🏼🙌🏼👏🏼
Great work once again!
One of if not the best history channel on TH-cam
Thank you!
Bowdoin College was the home of Professor Joshua Chamberlain, the hero of Little Round Top and, who was wounded multiple times, was promoted to brevet Major General and accepted Lee's surrender from John Gordon of Georgia, another great volunteer officer. Both men served as governors of their respective states. Give the time Beecher attended Bowdoin College, Chamberlain was almost probably one of his professors.
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Thank you for all your work on this long play version , nice job ✌️
I love all of these.
Thank you brother
There is a statue of Thomas K. Beecher in my hometown. Another member of that family.
Hell yeah brother
I might add I read the book just before the protest at Wounded Knee.
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The remark that Carrington, “by all accounts,” ordered Fetterman not to cross Lodge Trail Ridge is somewhat misleading. There was only one account, and it was Carrington’s, because everyone else present died that day. It was, I’m pretty sure, Carrington’s exciuse for having allowed the sally in the first place. His first wife, who was at the fort, repeated her husband’s claim in her book about the episode. After she died, Carrington married the young widow of Lieutenant Grummond (who was a bigamist, and had left another wife back East). This second wife, who was also at the fort, wrote about the experience-probably with Carrington’s encouragement-and she, too, emphasized Carrington’s self-serving claim. I don't think either wife actually heard the exchange between Carrington and Fetterman, and it would perfectly fit Carrington’s deceitful character to put the blame on a dead man.
The legend that Carrington was suspected of cowardice by his men is almost certainly true. Although he nominally commended the 18th U.S. Infantry throughout the Civil War, he spent that entire conflict finagling to avoid service in the field. His favorite ploy was promoting a theory of disloyal "Copperheads" conspiring to overthrow the government in order to make his "intelligence" work indispensable to Indiana Governor Oliver Morton, who interceded whenever Carrington was ordered to the front. General Sherman himself admitted being aware of Carrington's horror of danger. Fetterman, having served through the war in the field with the 18th Infantry, would have been fully posted on Carrington's timidity.
I suspect Carrington was also the original source of the assertion that Fetterman boasted about riding roughshod over the whole Sioux nation with 80 men. The quote is just too perfect, since that was exactly how many men Fetterman led into his last fight.
Everyone present didn't die that day. Carrington was heard by witnesses inside the fort warning against chasing the indian past Lodge Trai Ridge.
Read "Indian Fights and Fighters: The Soldier and The Sioux" by Cyrus Townsend Brady. He lived back then and interviewed many of the individuals who were at
Fort Phil Kearney. This book is as contemporary as it gets.
@@bobbybooshay8641 Thanks for the tip. I'll see if I can find it.
Chivington was a madman and his "sodiers" were mostly drunken miners from Denver. Black Kettle's band was peaceful. It was it a massacre.
You really don't know your history
I worked in South Dakota and your reviews are spot on, things and people haven't changed much.
By coincidence in the day of Dec, 21 (my birthday), Fetterman had 80 men. As the enjoyable history, "The Long Death" noted as Fetterman attacked, "While the entire Sioux nation was not on the other side of the ridge, there were enough to test his theory."
Ironic? There are three very famous Lakota sioux Indian war leader chiefs! Actually name American horse. To the Oglala, minneaconjou and the hunkpapa bands. Of the proud warrior people of the north great plains. A must admired very typical name to the very proud Lakota sioux indian people. My great inspiring wisdom for today. Have a great fabulous wonderful day.😀
Sorry I was late,thanks
It's OK but don't let it happen again. It will go on your permanent record, and what would your parents say then?
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The mooning heard round the world.
Classic
If I ever win one of those $300,000,000 lotteries, I’m going to make these stories into movies …
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When I was at the age of 13 I read " Bury my heart at Wounded Knee" it for ever changed my impression of American politics and the treatment of the native population of American. They went to war to free the black slaves and distory the native peoples for gread.
The losers of the Civil War started it because they were greedy. It had nothing to do with the freedom of the slaves themselves.
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This information is in the Lance and shield, the life an times of sittingbull. The Lakota sioux indian wars actually extended to 1881, Near the Canadian Montana territory. The very large Lakota sioux indian encampment had been hidden away since October 1876 along the popular river region of Montana territory near the Canadian border. The us found out by word of a crow Indian scouting party were the Lakota sioux indian people's hidden place is at! They sent a us soldiers there! A large number of us soldiers would cross the frozen river and open fire at a very large encampment of over three hundred hunkpapa and Oglala Lakota sioux Indian encampment site! Know as the battle of the popular river January 2nd 1881, the frighten sioux Indian people would escape north to the serounding hills! One woman was screaming to end the very fierce fighting! She was hit by a stray flying bullets! Eight poor innocent Lakota sioux Indian warrior people lay dead on the frozen snow near their encampment site! The fighting would last over a hour! In the us favor probably because they had way better of the most powerful weapons in use! All the Lakota sioux indian people came down an surrendered to the us military! Crowking of the Oglala Lakota sioux indian people and chief gall of the hunkpapa Lakota sioux indian people. Chief gall look like a an old Roman General when he handed his weapon to the us commander! The very last us military campaign of early January 1881. No us soldiers were killed in this operation! Just eight poor innocent Lakota sioux Indian warrior people! The once very proudly Lakota sioux warrior people would have to walk to the over twenty miles to fort Burford ND in the very hard frozen temperatures will under us military prisoners of war! This actually happened a decade before the wounded knee massacre December 29th 1890. My great inspiring wisdom for today. Have a great fabulous wonderful day.😀
Nobody went to war to free slaves this is a modern concept
Now they are destroying the American population for greed carry on
If Sand Creek was the flashpoint, why was the war fought on Crow land? Fetterman Massacre, Wagon Box, and the Hayfield fight were all within treaty Crow land.
Perhaps the conflict had more to do with Sioux trying to establish more control over the rich hunting ground of the Big Horn Mountains? The Bozeman Trail (again vast majority on Crow land) and specifically the military posts posed an obstacle to the Sioux being able to carry out their campaign to either eliminate or push the Crow out of the Big Horns. See Battle of Pryor Creek between the Crow and Sioux.
Sand Creek may have helped increase tensions, but there a number of far more immediate causes to the Red Cloud War that should be explored.
Philip St George Cooke was in charge of the Department of the Platte, not George Crook.
Lets go
My family and I are descendants of Red Cloud :) he is my 5x great grandfather
Chivington and the Colorado troops were mostly raw militia...a fair % little better than bar sweeps. A regular Army officer who was going to testify against Chivington and the Governor was murdered in Denver. By the time that the Army high brass fully made aware, the "100 Dayzers" were discharged and beyond Army discipline. Black Kettle had tried to locate next to the fort, but was ordered to camp far away at Sand Creek...making them "fair game" for Chivington who couldn't have found, let alone fought...actual hostiles. Chivington had managed to do some actual service to the country against a Confederate column earlier...but by this point his ambition, combined with his fanaticism...resulted in wanton murder. YP
"On the high plains of North America, during the mid-1860's in the area that would become the State of Colorado a decade later, clashes between the..." just a suggestion.
Who’s ever been on Red Cloud Range at Fort Stewart Georgia?
Sioux, Cheyenne and Arapaho.
Not all greed. Settlers a better life are not the same as gold fever. It's sad history. Not black and white. As a historian I've learned not to use presenting too much but rather to try and place myself in that time.
Red Cloud back stabbed Crazy Horse, which led to Crazy Horse's murder.
Explain.
Nothing has change with the american army with the last 164 years
Successful geuarilla campaign???
C'mon now!!
Native Americans fighting the USA is the same fight as Palestinians fighting the Israel and the IDF……..
First of all there ain't no such thing as a peaceful Village if these people have raided settlers and murdered them just because they were all sleeping thinking they were far away and safe don't mean that they're a peaceful Village
People leave out the facts that the natives played their part as well.
Thats right, the degradation that were committed by some of these tribe's were absolutely horrible!!
Based Trudeau
I never thought id ever say that ever 😂
Peaceful village on Sand Creek 😂😂 your leaving out some important facts your content is usually good but this one is misleading
It was a peaceful village
Personally this sounds greatly of speculation and just plain 🐂💩.
Thats bc you have no clue what you're talking about. 👍🏻
How come the casualty and fighting parties estimated numbers,always seem to vary by such ridiculously large margins? I mean 100 and 600 should be very obvious with no more than a second or two glance? I mean ya could probly do better than that,more often than not blind folded and guessing. Were there a larger percentage of the population that were just straight full of 💩? Or was there a very large number of people who simply could not count but would just blurt out any type of number that they could recall hearing before thinkin nobody be able to tell they couldnt count!? Or was it intentional to seem bigger and badder to any of those who may be considering whether or not it'd be smart to move on us ? I mean some of these numbers couldn't even be accomplished by Rambo,Chuck Norris, the A-Team,Super Man and Wonder Woman and her invisible jet for air support all working in unison and under the comand of Rooster Cogburn and the Outlaw Josey Wales.
Some people would greatly exaggerate the number of those killled to make their victory seem greater, it happened quite a bit.
@@bonnieprincecharlie6248 I think that's definitely one reason for it. I could be wrong. But most (if not all) estimated, pre-battle, native warriors to u.s. troops acounts I've heard. Seem to be laid on, quite a bit thicker. Than even the most questionable post battle casualty numbers. And it kind of makes me think that it was most likely intentionally done for political purposes.
Chuck Norris doesn’t deserve to be on that list. The man’s body count is higher than infinity.
@@stevenfrench7940 Chuck is a dangerous man no doubt about it,buddy! But I've seen an interview with him saying that much like u.s. army estimates in Custer's day. His body count has gotten way outta hand. Mainly due to the extremely large number of his fanbase that aren't. To put in his own words,"I wouldn't ever say that they're nuts. But they probably aren't well." And his true body count is actually only halfway to infinity. But if they could've formed a special emergency crack team consisting of Joey Diaz at the hight of his karate school days,the Kung fu Hillbilly, Philo Betto's "ma" from any which way you can,Randall Tex Cobb and Shirley from what's happenin. With Walker Texas Ranger in charge!? And a time machine with Capt. Kirk at the helm and Chunk from the Goonies as door gunner to get em in and outta there. I can guarangoddamtee ya little big horn would've went down alot more different than it did! There would've been alot of lives saved I could tell you that. They may have even talked it out.
Manifest Destiny