I have really grown to like the Double Dragon, my favorite fixed loop currently. I typically prefer Blake’s hitch over the Farrimond, but Farrimond is useful for when an “exploding” friction hitch is desired.
Great video and useful knots, thanks. I knew all three of them already, but you made me realise that indeed I only need these three for hammock camping.
I think the only disadvantage to that F Hitch it looks like it takes more rope than a regular taunt line hitch. But it all comes apart real easy nice job!
One of the things I like about this video is that the knot tying demonstrations are performed the way a person would tie the knots in the field (a right handed person anyway). Some other videos show the knots in convoluted, awkward orientations.
Nice Video, thank you. The Farrimond friction hitch is my favorite knkt ever, however one of the main advantages is that you can tie it without weaving the end of the line through anything, so it is great for tying it with lots of excess line. In your configuration, when you’re close to the end of the line, I would just use a tautline hitch with a bight. Instead of your dragon loop, I do the anglers loop/ perfection loop which is really really similar, or a figure of eight loop. And in the middle of a line i do the butterfly loop/ alpine butterfly because of the way the lines exit parallel to each other. As a stopper knot, I would recommend the single figure of eight which is a little bulkier and easy to undo. And lastly, another important knot would be the sheet bend or the butterfly bend to tie two ropes together.
Farrimond = BRILLIANT! Thank you. I've been looking for a good slip tension knot for a tarp ridge. More hardware that will sit unused in my bin = awesome.
Cool knots. I had seen the Farrimond before but had forgotten how to tie it. For my stopper knot I use a modified marlin spike hitch which is even bulkier than your double overhand and almost as easy to tie, but the double dragon was totally new to me. I found it easy to tie after your first demonstration and I think I like it a lot. Very instructive video,, good work!
Nice selection, I also prefer to avoid hardware and knowing good knots make that simple. Sometimes I prefer a figure-of-8 or figure-of-9 for a loop because they are arguably a bit easier than DD in the dark etc whilst just as strong and secure. Same for Magners hitch vs Farrimond. Also an honourable mention for Hedden hitch as a very effective unidirectional friction knot which works better than the Klemheist. Can be very useful for tensioning guy lines. And of course what about the essential Truckers hitch?!
@TacBlades Yes I understand what you mean. The only essential one missing here then is probably Truckers hitch as sometimes Farrimond or Magners just won't produce/hold enough tension. Twice though the loop on Truckers also gives a locking mechanism which can be very handy.
excellent video very clear great new knots to try out. I was wandering what knots to use with dyneema, now i know thanks to you. keep them coming love the video you put on
Thanks for the tutorial, that farrimond knot was the one I've been searching for but couldn't find, mainly because I didn't know the name before and searching for prussik on a guy line found nothing. Thanks again.
Ah! Just sent you a message about help with a porch idea for the Quechua 2 man with rearward sloping front. Just ditched my taughtline hitch after learning your Farrimond. The TL slips on some cordage!
Ta for pics. If my tent was pointed at top that would be fine but Quechua is long so would need very long tarp to reach over. Wondering if just laying tarp, say a few inches over front of frame & bungying with downward pressure would secure it top & sides without distorting tent shape. Food for thought! Bless you for trying.
The angler’s loop I know of seems to be much more stable i three directions than the bowline. And now I wonder if the dragon one is even better. It sure was even easier to tie and as easy to untie. It seems to be stronger i all directions but perhaps somewhat bigger.
It's close. They're both tugboat hitches (perfection loop also used in fishing). Note, his double dragon, the standing end isn't between the 2 loop pieces, but, to the side. See www.southee.com/Knots/Knots_SingleLoops.htm (#13).
This dragon loop is a perfection loop, except you're going between the loops twice rather than once. If you do the dragon knot the way you do it but only going around once, you will get the perfection loop. Good because it pulls evenly in the middle as opposed to like a bowline. But the perfection loop jams really badly when tied normally (not sure if going around twice would minimize the jamming in any way), and it's bad enough that you would have to cut it.
Look at the way they tie the Perfection/Angler's Loop with 3 coils around the hand. Once the knot is made just do an added tuck & circle & tuck you'll have your Double Dragon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angler%27s_loop
Hi There, Can the Double- Dragon knot be used as a quick-release knot? Farrimond knot is very good similar applications to an Evenk quick-release knot. cheers
Prob with double dragon it takes a lil longer then a Bowline with a two half hitches......and good luck getting it out after pulling under heavy load. I've pulled boats with bowlines with a half hitch for safe measure....and they come undone easy. The double dragon is just an Anchor hitch/perfection knot loop hybrid. Strong but wet... under load it's called a "cutter knot" only way to get it out is to cut it off.
I have not found that at all, even under heavily load it doesn't jam and you can just push one of the turns towards the main look a little and its easies out.
I'm very excited to learn the double dragon. (not sure it'll replace the bowline or butterfly loop straight away for me but it is easy to tie and seems strong) As for the double overhand stopper you use: did you try and dismiss the figure-eight knot? If so, what advantage did you find?
Yes tried the figure eight stopper but found it uses more cord and is more tricky to make sure its tied right at the end of the line, also i think it doest really provide as good a stopper. But all knots are good just depends on personal preference.
John Coleman thanks, the anglers loop or even the double tuck anglers loop does tend to jam, also the anglers loop is only for ends if you tie it mid line its tricky and jams more, also the loading on all the lines is not providing the same force.
why dragon knot instead of the bowline.why a farrimond instead of a taut line hitch? Your choices appear more complicated and after testing on different cordage diameters and stiffness I fail to see the advantage. In fact they use more cord, take more time, not any stronger.
Each to their own. But there are known failures with a bowline as a technical concept it has a lot to do with the tail and directions of force. Also lots of disadvantages with taught line especially in cold conditions with gloves on. But each to their own i am not saying these knots are better and you should use them i am just saying its what i prefer to use. You can obviously use whatever you prefer.
Bowline is known to be a little unreliable under dynamic forces as some climbers have learnt to their detriment. You can make it more secure (double, yosemite, water, etc) but then it's probably more difficult to tie and verify than double dragon and certainly more than figure-of-8 loop which is strong, secure and easy to dress.
I have really grown to like the Double Dragon, my favorite fixed loop currently. I typically prefer Blake’s hitch over the Farrimond, but Farrimond is useful for when an “exploding” friction hitch is desired.
Great video and useful knots, thanks. I knew all three of them already, but you made me realise that indeed I only need these three for hammock camping.
I think the only disadvantage to that F Hitch it looks like it takes more rope than a regular taunt line hitch. But it all comes apart real easy nice job!
Thanks to you I’m done with the tautline hitch. So simple and well taught. Cheers!
One of the things I like about this video is that the knot tying demonstrations are performed the way a person would tie the knots in the field (a right handed person anyway). Some other videos show the knots in convoluted, awkward orientations.
I tried to copy the perspective of the person tieing the knot. Which is not easy with a camera in front of your face.
Nice Video, thank you.
The Farrimond friction hitch is my favorite knkt ever, however one of the main advantages is that you can tie it without weaving the end of the line through anything, so it is great for tying it with lots of excess line. In your configuration, when you’re close to the end of the line, I would just use a tautline hitch with a bight.
Instead of your dragon loop, I do the anglers loop/ perfection loop which is really really similar, or a figure of eight loop. And in the middle of a line i do the butterfly loop/ alpine butterfly because of the way the lines exit parallel to each other.
As a stopper knot, I would recommend the single figure of eight which is a little bulkier and easy to undo.
And lastly, another important knot would be the sheet bend or the butterfly bend to tie two ropes together.
Farrimond = BRILLIANT! Thank you. I've been looking for a good slip tension knot for a tarp ridge. More hardware that will sit unused in my bin = awesome.
Cool knots. I had seen the Farrimond before but had forgotten how to tie it. For my stopper knot I use a modified marlin spike hitch which is even bulkier than your double overhand and almost as easy to tie, but the double dragon was totally new to me. I found it easy to tie after your first demonstration and I think I like it a lot. Very instructive video,, good work!
Thanks for doing this video! I always love learning new knots. The double dragon is one I'd never seen.
Its a great one and a cool name :)
Have a look at kalmyk knot as well.
That Farrimond is the knot I've been looking for.. Thanks!
Great job on the knots loved the video. Thanks!
Nice selection, I also prefer to avoid hardware and knowing good knots make that simple. Sometimes I prefer a figure-of-8 or figure-of-9 for a loop because they are arguably a bit easier than DD in the dark etc whilst just as strong and secure. Same for Magners hitch vs Farrimond. Also an honourable mention for Hedden hitch as a very effective unidirectional friction knot which works better than the Klemheist. Can be very useful for tensioning guy lines. And of course what about the essential Truckers hitch?!
@@hop333 all good but I like to keep it simple so I only have to know a few.
@TacBlades Yes I understand what you mean. The only essential one missing here then is probably Truckers hitch as sometimes Farrimond or Magners just won't produce/hold enough tension. Twice though the loop on Truckers also gives a locking mechanism which can be very handy.
excellent video very clear great new knots to try out. I was wandering what knots to use with dyneema, now i know thanks to you. keep them coming love the video you put on
Many thanks :)
Great video... I think I'll use the Farrimond Hitch to replace the Tautline from now on.
Much better than a taut-line hitch - many thanks!
Great knot. Thanks. Sir 👍
Thanks for the tutorial, that farrimond knot was the one I've been searching for but couldn't find, mainly because I didn't know the name before and searching for prussik on a guy line found nothing. Thanks again.
No problem hope it helps :)
Brilliant! With you on knots instead of gadgets. I too only use 4 for everything.
pete wright thank for watching
Ah! Just sent you a message about help with a porch idea for the Quechua 2 man with rearward sloping front. Just ditched my taughtline hitch after learning your Farrimond. The TL slips on some cordage!
pete wright cool sent you a reply
Ta for pics. If my tent was pointed at top that would be fine but Quechua is long so would need very long tarp to reach over. Wondering if just laying tarp, say a few inches over front of frame & bungying with downward pressure would secure it top & sides without distorting tent shape. Food for thought! Bless you for trying.
The angler’s loop I know of seems to be much more stable i three directions than the bowline. And now I wonder if the dragon one is even better. It sure was even easier to tie and as easy to untie. It seems to be stronger i all directions but perhaps somewhat bigger.
Great video. I've been wondering what those knots were. Very useful knowledge to add to the tool box. Thanks
Thanks for watching :)
Good job man. Great video and great explaination (easily understood).
Daniel Perley thank you :)
I believe it's the ABoK 1017 "Perfection Loop", but tied with 2 nipping loops instead of one. Nice tying technique, thanks for the video.
It's close. They're both tugboat hitches (perfection loop also used in fishing). Note, his double dragon, the standing end isn't between the 2 loop pieces, but, to the side. See www.southee.com/Knots/Knots_SingleLoops.htm (#13).
Thank you so much. The Double Dragon and stopper knots are cool. But the Farrimond beats the taut line hitch hands down.
Many thanks for watching, hope it helps ☺
double dragon knots looks like a perfection loop
Jeff Myers never heard of that
Makes a nice loop that does not close www.101knots.com/perfection-loop.html
Jeff Myers not quite the same but similar.
does the same action on the lines to make a non closing loop. I use it for mule tape to make loops on the ends
This dragon loop is a perfection loop, except you're going between the loops twice rather than once. If you do the dragon knot the way you do it but only going around once, you will get the perfection loop. Good because it pulls evenly in the middle as opposed to like a bowline. But the perfection loop jams really badly when tied normally (not sure if going around twice would minimize the jamming in any way), and it's bad enough that you would have to cut it.
Excellent details. Thanks for posting.
thank you for your video - i just learned an easy and usefull knot within seconds... thx. to you.
Metrodorus Skepsis no worries happy knotting :)
Thank u so much ! Tried the blowline that was recommanded in the facebook group, but I'll switch to this one !
Cool no jammin no slippin :)
Could you give a couple of examples of how you would use the farrimond knot for hammock camping or for the tarp.
I mainly use it for the guy lines on the tarp and sometimes the tarp ridgeline also. I always use it for guy lines on a tent.
Tac Blades , so do you use this knot from the stake to the tie out on the tarp?
@@baylytaff7106 yes fixed at tarp around the stake and then hitch
Look at the way they tie the Perfection/Angler's Loop with 3 coils around the hand. Once the knot is made just do an added tuck & circle & tuck you'll have your Double Dragon.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angler%27s_loop
Hi There,
Can the Double- Dragon knot be used as a quick-release knot? Farrimond knot is very good similar applications to an Evenk quick-release knot. cheers
I would have to think about it but if you want the strength in all directions then no it would be a fixed knot.
Easily some of the very best tips!
Macovic many thanks :)
Prob with double dragon it takes a lil longer then a Bowline with a two half hitches......and good luck getting it out after pulling under heavy load. I've pulled boats with bowlines with a half hitch for safe measure....and they come undone easy.
The double dragon is just an Anchor hitch/perfection knot loop hybrid. Strong but wet... under load it's called a "cutter knot" only way to get it out is to cut it off.
I have not found that at all, even under heavily load it doesn't jam and you can just push one of the turns towards the main look a little and its easies out.
I'm very excited to learn the double dragon. (not sure it'll replace the bowline or butterfly loop straight away for me but it is easy to tie and seems strong) As for the double overhand stopper you use: did you try and dismiss the figure-eight knot? If so, what advantage did you find?
Yes tried the figure eight stopper but found it uses more cord and is more tricky to make sure its tied right at the end of the line, also i think it doest really provide as good a stopper. But all knots are good just depends on personal preference.
does the double dragon have an Abok number?
Tac, can the Anglers loop work as well? One that seems a very secure loop as well. I enjoyed your presentation
John Coleman thanks, the anglers loop or even the double tuck anglers loop does tend to jam, also the anglers loop is only for ends if you tie it mid line its tricky and jams more, also the loading on all the lines is not providing the same force.
I meant to say, can the anglers loop be as secure as the Double dragon loop?
Thank you. Understand what you mean, now.
John Coleman with just the single turn no with a doulble turn nearly, depending on the direction of the forces.
Double dragon = figure 8 on a bight, right?
nope...
A similar knot is tied the same way only you hold the standing end, place the knot on the ground and walk. That's the 'Draggin' knot
why dragon knot instead of the bowline.why a farrimond instead of a taut line hitch? Your choices appear more complicated and after testing on different cordage diameters and stiffness I fail to see the advantage. In fact they use more cord, take more time, not any stronger.
Each to their own. But there are known failures with a bowline as a technical concept it has a lot to do with the tail and directions of force. Also lots of disadvantages with taught line especially in cold conditions with gloves on.
But each to their own i am not saying these knots are better and you should use them i am just saying its what i prefer to use. You can obviously use whatever you prefer.
Bowline is known to be a little unreliable under dynamic forces as some climbers have learnt to their detriment. You can make it more secure (double, yosemite, water, etc) but then it's probably more difficult to tie and verify than double dragon and certainly more than figure-of-8 loop which is strong, secure and easy to dress.
Двойного дракона можно вязать проще и быстрей - из простой петли. Вы поймёте! Это третий способ.
Stopper = steveadore .
triple flying kicking dragon is a LOT better