Great demonstration of three different ways of tying this useful loop knot. I’ve never seen the midline example before. This is a hugely popular loop knot in the UK but for some reason not as popular in the United States.
@jakemccoy Absolutely right. I just intended to convey that I haven't considered using the DD as a mid-line loop. The only difference between 1 & 2 is 1 uses the working end to make the two wraps & 2 uses a section of a standing section of the line - it's the same. I almost always use the omni-directional Alpine Butterfly for mid-line loops. For directional loop applications I've sometimes used a Directional Fig-8 loop. I'll have to remind myself to give the DD a try instead to see how it works for me.
@@JohnGreen_USGood stuff. For a directional midline loop on a trucker hitch, I use the Span Loop. It is easy to tie and falls apart easily after a monster load. It works amazing well, but I think it is unpopular only because it is not visually pleasing.
@@jakemccoy Thanks for that suggestion, interesting loop knot. I'll give that a try for different applications of a directional loop under high tension - easy to tie & untie.. I typically don't use a fixed loop for the Trucker's. I almost always use a slip knot formed with a second twist, which makes it based on a Fig-8, like an Evenk/Siberian. Haven't had a problem with it slipping or jamming. After the tensioning end is removed, It pops untied with a yank virtually every time.
It is a loop knot based on a double sheet bend, so it is very much in the bowline family. It uses different joined ends that eliminate the stability and strength issues common to the other bowlines.
I don’t think it’s very closely related to a double sheet bend. A double sheet bend is a way of grabbing onto a bight of another rope. The double dragon grabs onto the loop’s collar in the same way that a double sheet bend grabs onto a bight, but the similarities end there. The double dragon is more closely related to a “double” angler’s loop. The only difference is that the angler’s loop has a twist in the collar that the loop goes through, and the dragon does not.
@@ajnosek1528, I consider that the classic Perfection Loop (angler's loop) with double tuck you've mentioned, which is very similar to this double dragon loop, is even better.
One of my favourites when I learned it was comparable to bowline or alpine butterfly (although not quite as good as alpine if memory serves... been a while since I looked).
Don't you consider that the classic Perfection Loop with double tuck ("double angler's loop"), which is very similar to this double dragon loop, is even better?
I think these knots are referred to as Tugboat A and Tugboat B knots, from what I have gathered. Obviously the Perfection Loop is not new to me, but both of these knots were. I like the ease of tying the Double Dragon, and it seems to be a little easier to untie than the Tugboat B, or Double Perfection Loop. Though I wouldn’t say either are necessarily easy to untie after being loaded with substancial force.
Would you say it’s an accurate assessment to say that knot combines the bowline, square kit and sheep end into one? That’s what is reminds me of because it combines features of all of those.
Now I need to go listen to the Double Dragon theme from NES. Anyway, I can't be mad about learning another loop knot can I? But there's also an inline figure 8 loop which will come off parallel to the rope as well, but maybe uses more rope to tie. Not sure. I'm getting redundant with all these knots I'm learning. I actually don't have that much day to day use for most of them but maybe sometime it'll come in handy.
I used to be knottarded and now in my twilight years I've gotten about a half dozen pretty much remembered from memory and can tie them with my eyes closed. Bowline, cowboy bowline, eskimo bowline, marline spike hitch, clove hitch, constrictor knot, alpine butterfly scaffold knot, taut line hitch , truckers hitch, ashley stopper knot. This seems like a cool knot, but it doesn't seem like its going to add much to my repertoire. Any suggestions for me?
I’m in a similar place, close to twilight years and have learned pretty much the same knots as you. I’m just learning this DD knot and from what I'm reading/watching would prefer it over the bowline (regular and cowboy) because it is more reliable, possibly stronger and a big plus is that it also can be tied in the middle of a line and not just the end. Also I like that it is directional, which is good for some applications. However, I do like the alpine butterfly knot/loop as well
Learning knots seems like a useful hobby to pick up. Thanks for the demonstration.
15 years ago, a girlfriend broke up with me because I could not tie down a load on a truck. That caused me to become a knot expert.
Clear and comprehensive instructions, and never seen it a s a midline loop. Thanks for sharing.
Useful knot. Thank you for sharing!
Absolutely, thank you for watching.
I really like this one, thanks!!!
Great knot. Great explanation. Thank you
Absolutely! Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Great knot, great tip for mid line loop. Thanks for sharing...
You’re most welcome.
Thanks for the great explanation! That is an excellent knot.
I like this one for a number of reasons.
Great demonstration of three different ways of tying this useful loop knot. I’ve never seen the midline example before. This is a hugely popular loop knot in the UK but for some reason not as popular in the United States.
Well maybe we can change that. I think this is a really excellent midline or end line loop.
For memory purposes, it was really just 2 ways. The first way was the same as the second way. The first way was just closer to the end.
@jakemccoy Absolutely right. I just intended to convey that I haven't considered using the DD as a mid-line loop. The only difference between 1 & 2 is 1 uses the working end to make the two wraps & 2 uses a section of a standing section of the line - it's the same. I almost always use the omni-directional Alpine Butterfly for mid-line loops. For directional loop applications I've sometimes used a Directional Fig-8 loop. I'll have to remind myself to give the DD a try instead to see how it works for me.
@@JohnGreen_USGood stuff. For a directional midline loop on a trucker hitch, I use the Span Loop. It is easy to tie and falls apart easily after a monster load. It works amazing well, but I think it is unpopular only because it is not visually pleasing.
@@jakemccoy Thanks for that suggestion, interesting loop knot. I'll give that a try for different applications of a directional loop under high tension - easy to tie & untie..
I typically don't use a fixed loop for the Trucker's. I almost always use a slip knot formed with a second twist, which makes it based on a Fig-8, like an Evenk/Siberian. Haven't had a problem with it slipping or jamming. After the tensioning end is removed, It pops untied with a yank virtually every time.
It is a loop knot based on a double sheet bend, so it is very much in the bowline family. It uses different joined ends that eliminate the stability and strength issues common to the other bowlines.
I don’t think it’s very closely related to a double sheet bend. A double sheet bend is a way of grabbing onto a bight of another rope. The double dragon grabs onto the loop’s collar in the same way that a double sheet bend grabs onto a bight, but the similarities end there.
The double dragon is more closely related to a “double” angler’s loop. The only difference is that the angler’s loop has a twist in the collar that the loop goes through, and the dragon does not.
@@ajnosek1528 Did you even tie a double sheet bend and check? Then you just tuck one tail end thru, and bingo - double dragon.
@@martinhafner2201 I did check, acually. I put them next to each other and inspected them. I'll give them another look
Now that you say that, it does have similar characteristics to the Double Sheet Bend.
@@ajnosek1528, I consider that the classic Perfection Loop (angler's loop) with double tuck you've mentioned, which is very similar to this double dragon loop, is even better.
Very instructive video and great knot!
Thanks you are great at knots
Hope they proof useful for you down the line, thanks for watching.
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Thanks! This would really scare my parents when they see me!
One of my favourites when I learned it was comparable to bowline or alpine butterfly (although not quite as good as alpine if memory serves... been a while since I looked).
i didn't wanna like it, but i like it!
Looks very similar to a Perfection knot.
Great video, as always! Do you think this would be a good mid-line loop to use in a trucker's hitch setup to tie down a load?
I do. I like how this one lays more inline. I need to try it out loading it heavily, but I think it will work well.
@@txtoolcrib Guess I could have scrolled down and seen the other comment from 30 mins ago, huh? Oh well! Thanks again.
Don't you consider that the classic Perfection Loop with double tuck ("double angler's loop"), which is very similar to this double dragon loop, is even better?
I think these knots are referred to as Tugboat A and Tugboat B knots, from what I have gathered. Obviously the Perfection Loop is not new to me, but both of these knots were. I like the ease of tying the Double Dragon, and it seems to be a little easier to untie than the Tugboat B, or Double Perfection Loop. Though I wouldn’t say either are necessarily easy to untie after being loaded with substancial force.
So the bights are named Billy and Jimmy Lee, right? Either way I'ma use this in more places I used to use the overhand loop.
I’m guessing that is a reference to the character names from the video game.
@@txtoolcrib Guilty as charged.
Omg coming back to this comment to realize I didn't misspell Billy's name is disorienting
Would you say it’s an accurate assessment to say that knot combines the bowline, square kit and sheep end into one? That’s what is reminds me of because it combines features of all of those.
Now I need to go listen to the Double Dragon theme from NES.
Anyway, I can't be mad about learning another loop knot can I? But there's also an inline figure 8 loop which will come off parallel to the rope as well, but maybe uses more rope to tie. Not sure. I'm getting redundant with all these knots I'm learning. I actually don't have that much day to day use for most of them but maybe sometime it'll come in handy.
Useful for a mid line loop for a truckers hitch?
Better than most actually.
Yes, and it unties fairly easily even if it has been heavily loaded, as the loop in a truckers hitch does.
I used to be knottarded and now in my twilight years I've gotten about a half dozen pretty much remembered from memory and can tie them with my eyes closed. Bowline, cowboy bowline, eskimo bowline, marline spike hitch, clove hitch, constrictor knot, alpine butterfly scaffold knot, taut line hitch , truckers hitch, ashley stopper knot. This seems like a cool knot, but it doesn't seem like its going to add much to my repertoire. Any suggestions for me?
I’m in a similar place, close to twilight years and have learned pretty much the same knots as you. I’m just learning this DD knot and from what I'm reading/watching would prefer it over the bowline (regular and cowboy) because it is more reliable, possibly stronger and a big plus is that it also can be tied in the middle of a line and not just the end. Also I like that it is directional, which is good for some applications.
However, I do like the alpine butterfly knot/loop as well
@dennisboyd2859 there's a reason is the queen
What type rope are you using for this demonstration?
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Easy to get 👍🙏
Great stuff thx!!!
Are you left-handed?
No
Now I know where The Bear Essentials got his info at. 👍👍
Fun fact: when I was in the navy, double dragon was when you were vomiting and had diarrhea
Yikes!
why not just a bowline?
I'm not used to seeing this tied "left handed".
Nice!
I use the DD when I don’t trust the security of the Bowline.
Ooooooo love it
Double tugboat.
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You had me until you decided to shit on the alpine buttelfly.
What are you talking about? Lol, that’s hilarious! I was simply highlighting that this is a situational knot.
Honestly, I’ve never seen anybody get so worked up over a knot. Comedy gold right there!
Pointless.