I've seen Fanucs do stuff like that. My favorite robot trick is the ability to hold a large part motionless in the air while the entire robot arm rotates. Think of it like putting your hand up to a window and then rotating your arm 180 degrees and bend your elbow backwards without moving your hand from the glass.
Kuka robots can sell for as little as $10.000 AUD so, let's assume those plates sell for around 12c per unit, that gives us 833 units that it needs to fulfill and that it takes 2 minutes to fabricate each piece based on the video, then it can take as little as 27 hours for it to pay for itself.
That's not how economics work, first of all you're a factor 100 off (833 units x 12ct = ~$100) so nearly 2800 hours or 115,7 days non-stop without maintenance shutdown to just process it's lowest possible cost if material, initial installation, maintenance, power and replacement parts were free. You'd need to compare it to a human operator or competing robotic system to determine how long it would take for the investment to pay back.
The weight of the Kuka robots makes them extremely stable and precise ... just be someplace else because they move very quickly and can take off your head.
The jobs aren't going away, they're just changing. Takes a team of people to make sure the robots stays functional, takes a whole factory(ies) to manufacture a part when something breaks, takes people in trucks to drive that part to the team that's fixing the robot, takes power plant employees to run the power plant that generates the power that the robot consumes, takes teachers and professors to teach that workforce the skills they'll need for those jobs. The jobs aren't going away, they're just becoming more sophisticated. Go to school; get an education; learn math, chemistry, and computer technology and you won't give a bigger shit about the job market.
techtronicman1 Thet a myth, a industrial machine can replace dozens of people! Do you realy think they can become all academics and if they can, there are not enough jobs for them. It's long proven that jobs, replaced by machines are gone. because the most jobs, to repair or build the machines are allready existing!
The only reason this would be true, would be that the robots caused overpopulation. People who now have different jobs, also aren't dying out making mistakes because of exhaustion
A smaller version with 4 wheels moving like a car, able to replace its own tires and refuel with magnetic spinners, and also two arms instead of one, with many cameras
Looks pretty reasonably fast to me. That is a heavy robot after all. 2 parts in 5 minutes, not bad with that many bends. A CNC machine capable of traveling that robots' entire reach basically goes just as fast.
I agree that reliably can be more important than speed and that this is faster than a automated CNC. On the other hand robots are very much designed to run reliably at high speed. That is why we use them.
As you can see, the engineer is staring at the screen with little gears turning between the ears trying to keep up with the motion of the robot and figure out ways it could do the job better. Turning the robot speed up to eleven in that situation is often not helpful.
@@aleksandersuur9475 Not really. This robot running quite slowly and inefficiently it would be quite easy to make significant improvements to the process time. Production = Profit. Often the machines can't keep up with the robot and in that case I agree that there is no point making the robot run flat out, stop and wait. This looks like the machine is waiting a lot for the robot and the robot is not close to full speed. Perhaps turn it up to 7 or 8 (not 11). The moves in this are also quite sharp with a lot of stops and short abrupt moves (classic robot dance, but not how modern industrial robots usually function), linking those so the robot can smooth out the path would speed up the processing time while reducing wear on the robot.
Interesting watching I noticed the part slipping on the bend flattening process I wonder if this could be stopped by over bending the part more on previous bend
You raise a good question: how do automation and technology change employment? There isn't one answer, but it's a fascinating conversation. Generally speaking, new technology always leads to some job loss and some new jobs that didn't previously exist. Also, the trend in technology (and robotics as well) is to make manufacturing safer and more ergonomic. Robots take over heavy lifting and repetitive tasks, for example. But it's a big topic. Feel free to drop into the KUKA Facebook group to meet KUKA robot operators and discuss the topic further and more in depth: facebook.com/groups/KUKAGlobal/
how the robot detect metal sheets, theyre are not in the same place taken and released in a preprogramed position, take-working-release, and do this proces hundred times, i think is just one program with all proces cycle, in a continuous mod, i work just with ABB robots
What a huge waste of machinery for the application. Maybe put it to weld where it can replace a $100k good salary welder and where it would be worth the complex movements
@N Weld but this system would cost at least $400k That is a lot of money to have tied up making very little profit. Think of the return on investment. Thankfully real robotic systems are much faster than this.
Well bite my shiny metal ass, a real life bending unit.
And 6 years later, it is still probably doing the same thing 24/7, 24 hours a day.
Robots need maintance too :)
24/7 means 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
@@pawelwis7215 3h of maintenance per year... for 15 years...
I've seen Fanucs do stuff like that. My favorite robot trick is the ability to hold a large part motionless in the air while the entire robot arm rotates. Think of it like putting your hand up to a window and then rotating your arm 180 degrees and bend your elbow backwards without moving your hand from the glass.
This is Benders grandpa?
I wonder how many pieces of metal it has to bend before it's paid for.
Kuka robots can sell for as little as $10.000 AUD so, let's assume those plates sell for around 12c per unit, that gives us 833 units that it needs to fulfill and that it takes 2 minutes to fabricate each piece based on the video, then it can take as little as 27 hours for it to pay for itself.
That's not how economics work, first of all you're a factor 100 off (833 units x 12ct = ~$100) so nearly 2800 hours or 115,7 days non-stop without maintenance shutdown to just process it's lowest possible cost if material, initial installation, maintenance, power and replacement parts were free. You'd need to compare it to a human operator or competing robotic system to determine how long it would take for the investment to pay back.
10000AUD Lmao, maybe second hand on eBay or on other websites. If you want a new one that big it’s about 30000 Euro btw. So 4-5 times more.
@@MatzWerk second hand hand ))
@@jameshenderson3501 haha
The weight of the Kuka robots makes them extremely stable and precise ... just be someplace else because they move very quickly and can take off your head.
I like how the guy sits there motionless watching the robot
good job of sheet metal bending work with robot hand.
Seem's like a large cycle time for such a simple process, I'm sure the parts could be produced faster with a multi stage presstool.
+DestoryMyPhone Bruv if you need relatively small amount of components right now, then you have two reason why is it better produce this way.
For the porpouse of make this film, they slow down all the robots steps... just to appreciate the details of the different steps of the process...
You missing the point of flexibility
You can easily change the design of the part by tweaking the program, which is much cheaper than making a new press tool
These things are soooo cool and cute in their movements
The nice thing is as long no one enters the robots cage, nobody gets hurt.
The near future: Robots produce super cheap stuff but the people are to poor to buy it, because they have no jobs! ...lol
The jobs aren't going away, they're just changing. Takes a team of people to make sure the robots stays functional, takes a whole factory(ies) to manufacture a part when something breaks, takes people in trucks to drive that part to the team that's fixing the robot, takes power plant employees to run the power plant that generates the power that the robot consumes, takes teachers and professors to teach that workforce the skills they'll need for those jobs.
The jobs aren't going away, they're just becoming more sophisticated. Go to school; get an education; learn math, chemistry, and computer technology and you won't give a bigger shit about the job market.
techtronicman1 Thet a myth, a industrial machine can replace dozens of people! Do you realy think they can become all academics and if they can, there are not enough jobs for them.
It's long proven that jobs, replaced by machines are gone. because the most jobs, to repair or build the machines are allready existing!
the uneducated Connor want to work
don't want to work
The only reason this would be true, would be that the robots caused overpopulation. People who now have different jobs, also aren't dying out making mistakes because of exhaustion
A smaller version with 4 wheels moving like a car, able to replace its own tires and refuel with magnetic spinners, and also two arms instead of one, with many cameras
Amazing machines 👏
I wish i could work for kuka .
I would like to see this at full speed... If this is full speed call your engineer and tell them to fix it.
Sometimes reliability is more important than speed. Increasing speed might make it less reliable
Looks pretty reasonably fast to me. That is a heavy robot after all. 2 parts in 5 minutes, not bad with that many bends. A CNC machine capable of traveling that robots' entire reach basically goes just as fast.
I agree that reliably can be more important than speed and that this is faster than a automated CNC.
On the other hand robots are very much designed to run reliably at high speed. That is why we use them.
As you can see, the engineer is staring at the screen with little gears turning between the ears trying to keep up with the motion of the robot and figure out ways it could do the job better. Turning the robot speed up to eleven in that situation is often not helpful.
@@aleksandersuur9475 Not really. This robot running quite slowly and inefficiently it would be quite easy to make significant improvements to the process time.
Production = Profit. Often the machines can't keep up with the robot and in that case I agree that there is no point making the robot run flat out, stop and wait. This looks like the machine is waiting a lot for the robot and the robot is not close to full speed. Perhaps turn it up to 7 or 8 (not 11). The moves in this are also quite sharp with a lot of stops and short abrupt moves (classic robot dance, but not how modern industrial robots usually function), linking those so the robot can smooth out the path would speed up the processing time while reducing wear on the robot.
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Interesting watching I noticed the part slipping on the bend flattening process I wonder if this could be stopped by over bending the part more on previous bend
Lilkely by design
Simple move the metal storage to the "centered position corner" and you have cut the time! Wasting time in the movement of Kuka)
Isn't that the mother of Bender?
you can kiss my metallic ass it aint.... :-P
Friggin amazing math.
will auto robot replace worker in future?
Such high technologies and such low productivity.
Why in 1:03 robot is changing place?
Ok kuka I'm off to lunch...
Kuka: ok don't come back you illogical flesh body
You raise a good question: how do automation and technology change employment? There isn't one answer, but it's a fascinating conversation. Generally speaking, new technology always leads to some job loss and some new jobs that didn't previously exist. Also, the trend in technology (and robotics as well) is to make manufacturing safer and more ergonomic. Robots take over heavy lifting and repetitive tasks, for example. But it's a big topic. Feel free to drop into the KUKA Facebook group to meet KUKA robot operators and discuss the topic further and more in depth: facebook.com/groups/KUKAGlobal/
How on earth did I run into you on here
how the robot detect metal sheets, theyre are not in the same place taken and released in a preprogramed position, take-working-release, and do this proces hundred times, i think is just one program with all proces cycle, in a continuous mod, i work just with ABB robots
What a huge waste of machinery for the application. Maybe put it to weld where it can replace a $100k good salary welder and where it would be worth the complex movements
how much does this setup cost
high tech stuff but 240p video...
is it kuka 30-4 ks model??
Please insert girder
I would already have made that by hand
4:35 - sheet slipped out towards the left side?
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Do you need money to LCD monitor?
Kuka means trash can in Hungarian language. :D
Kuk means cock in Swedish.
It least it won't call in sick, or come to work with a hangover. I could make 20 while this robot make one, slow.
you are fast, that's 7 seconds for one piece
and the most important - you don't have to pay them
@N Weld but this system would cost at least $400k That is a lot of money to have tied up making very little profit. Think of the return on investment. Thankfully real robotic systems are much faster than this.
@@antaguana wrong this system will cost as little as 30-40k
What if gravity doesen't exist
but using robot to operate need to big place, and more setup time, if produce is flexible I personal no recommended.
Von Hand macht das ein angelernter Arbeiter wohl zehn mal so schnell ...
I'd rather pay for handmade high quality shit.
+Falcon The Pickle Smuggler No, I believe a human can be more intricate and detailed than a machine
Falcon The Pickle Smuggler Get a robot to make a katana then, vs a master swordsmith.
Falcon The Pickle Smuggler LMAO. Okay man. You keep thinking that.
Let's see a human make a CPU
Tesla use hundreds of KUKA robots BTW
Es una mamada este trabajo para un kuka, bien lo podria hacer un troquel, aparte para ser en serie resultaria un proceso muy caro.
what happens when it gets a virus? :)
BENDER!!
Trumpf BendMaster is much better and faster^^
Slip happens
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cool, but it could be work a human is doing.
that is to expensive cost just foe bending metal sheets, just commercial :)
can robot build a gun
:))
Ow
no kuka muu muka
slowwwww
And 10 years later, it is still probably doing the same thing 24/7, 24 hours a day.
unpaid too😥