"You think that's baaad? Remember the time I took on Usain Bolt with a broken leg?" *quick cut to foot race track* "Hey, we runnin', or what?" *cut back to living room* *canned laughter*
Piers just can't understand that people as intelligent as Jon and Seth can work out their own disagreements on their own without making it a national boxing match, and they did. Funny how it's the comedians that end up being the more mature and respecful than the the serious media personalities.
+Throat Yogurt that debate helped no one. 'THEY WORK IN TV' and protested more money? Overpaid they are for what I wanted cancelled! Too much writers are in line.
+Tiana Pi Tesr The people striking were mostly the people that never step foot in front of a camera. Writers practically get pennies on the dollar compared to actors. Yet they are the reason we get everything that's not strictly improvisational or reality television.
So apparently nobody here knows the story behind it, so I'm just gonna put it out there: The thing with the writer's strike was that, unlike other shows Jon was technically in charge of the show, but when it came to the payment they had to work something out with Comedy Central. So he had no Influence on whatsoever; he did run the show after all because of the other employees (camera-men, production assistants and so on). It was a writer's strike, not an everyone-who's-on-the-show strike, but without a show no payment for the other employees. I think Seth's heart was with all the writers over the country, while Jon thought of all the employees on the show. So technically, I think they both have a reasonable point and there is no simple way to solve such a problem. So what happened was, Jon called Seth, explained his point to him, they had a debate, they came to a conclusion, all fine. And then comes Piers and makes a problem out of it... like, seriously dude. They are smart, grown-up men, they can handle it. Btw, Seth's teeth are so white they are blinding me XD
Well thankyou for that because I watched the clip and still didn't understand what it was all about, I had an idea but your post cleared it up it also didn't that Morgan just wouldn't STFU and let Seth speak, what's the point of asking a question only to talk over their answer
Yeah, people need to stop polarizing every issue so much... Piers seems sooo determined to spark a conflict there, when even Seth is like "It wasn't that big a deal, he called me up and kind of lectured me" or whatever, and Piers is like, "Jon Stewart's a pompous dick! You hate him, right? Come on, let's start a fight!!" ...The zero-sum nonsense needs to stop, m'kay? Also Family Guy needs to stop
Yep. I had a supervisor like this. He tried to make these two coworkers who were good friends fight each other by telling each of them that one was trying to frame the other for a mistake. We all knew this guy was a grade A shit-stirrer who had zero respect for his subordinates, so they saw through the horseshit. It just added to the list of reasons we didn't respect him.
***** yah he did "such a great unbiast job" that he LOST said job. Was FIRED. He had NOBODY who agreed with him... He was one of the most ignorant and arrogant ppl on television. They recognized it after so much hate against him constantly.. So Much that their entire network was losing viewers, support, donations etc... Yeah so ur "unbiast" and journalist who "did a great job" is an anti american prick, who lost his job for his biased and opinionated reporting....
We were so glad when he left the UK for the USA. He left after being involved in multiple scandals. We thought we were shot of him but now he's back on British tv even though no-one wants to see him. I was hoping America would keep him.
Nobody of Seth's stature should be in a room with Piers Morgan, the narcissist's narcifssist. If anyone should ever be cancelled, Morgan should be. Morgan is an important voice for Morgan.
Funny thing is his arc is somewhat similar to Kanye West's. People loved them for hating Bush to the point of self-parody. But when those people realized that the two of them found a Republican they could love in Trump, everyone involved in the love-in started to look like fools. Even though the signs they were mentally wanting in matters political were there from the start.
Respect to Seth MacFarlane for maintaining his composure and dignity. It's clear that he really respects Jon Stewart and that, despite disagreeing with Jon, he acknowledges how what he did could be seen as being in the wrong. Great respect for both him and Stewart. Piers Morgan on the other hand, fuck him. He was so horrible at his job. Even in this interview, he's just trying to rile Seth up unnecessarily, and create a feud where there doesn't need to be one.
Personally, I think Stewart is a total hypocrite if his argument was "Who are you to be the moral arbiter" when that's his whole career. Looks to me like Seth was just afraid that Stewart had a better forum for ridiculing him. that makes Stewart a hypocrite AND a bully.
Stewart didn't really make this public though, it was a private conversation between the two of them where Stewart made his opinions known. It would be bullying if he did this publicly on his show and used his fanbase to harass Seth, but that's not what happened. His career IMO isn't to be moral arbiter, but to point out the hypocrisies of those with a voice and influence (the media, the government). He's a satirist, he ridicules. I get where you're coming from, but again IMO, he does a good job, better than most, at managing to be a critic while not having an agenda. That's why he refuses to ever go into politics, because he likes that outsider role.
@@Martial-MatJon doesn’t act like he’s always the moral arbiter. He’s a comedian who makes jokes and pokes fun at the hypocrisy of politics. You’re the same idiot who conflates Chris rock making fun of John McCain for gettin captured in a comedy special with Trump openly disrespecting him without provocation and directly citing him being captured, during the same armed conflict which Trump famously refused to serve in out of blatant cowardice, as a reason for not liking or respecting him.
I'm no fan of Seth MacFarlane as a person, but he was trying to explain a respectful disagreement, and Piers couldn't grasp that. No wonder they kicked him out of Britain.
We kicked him out because (1) he hacked a dead teenage girl's cell phone, and (2) because in 1995 he was guilty of share-tipping in the tabloid newspaper he was editor of. The teenage girl was 13-year-old Milly Dowler, who was murdered.
Đuro Razbojnik Everyone has an opinion. The ones that can convey that opinion with eloquence are the ones that deserve respect. This guy is an obnoxious idiot.
Being able to articulate your opinions like an adult, with big boy words and no contempt, is earning it. Perhaps you missed my point. Or maybe you don't value communication. You definitely read too many motivational posters though.
I love that Piers made this huge attempt to try to make people pick sides between Seth MacFarlane and Jon Stewart (two people everyone knows have flaws, but the general opinion is that they are very good, passionate, honest people) and the end result is everyone agreeing that Piers is a piece of crap.
Seth is hit-or-miss with me: I either think he's goddamn hilarious or just completely unfunny. That being said, I totally agree with you. There are politicians - people whose job it is to be diplomatic - who have not responded with such grace. Well done, Seth.
In the first minute of this, Seth asks at least 3 times how Piers found out about this; almost everyone back here in the UK will know exactly how Piers found out.
+Véronique Lafrance About 20 years ago, Piers Morgan worked for a newspaper here in the UK called the Daily Mirror. Whilst he was there, it became widely acknowledged that he and others would hack into people's phone messages (like celebrities) to get news/scoops for their articles. I'm assuming he did the same or similar to Seth here.
Ryan Dixon yep. Both he and Jon are. Surprised Jon unleashed on him. Especially because you can tell Seth looked up to him politically. Strange world we live in. Piers is just another dude in a tie with an agenda.
So... Neither Seth or Jon has ever told this story about a PHONE call, and Piers Morgan, ex-editor of a MURDOCH newspaper, the Daily Mail, knows about said phone call? Leveson anyone?
Team BombHead Ah, right you are. Shocking mistake on my part, but there we go. Though of course Morgan did edit the Mail, and we all know what kind of a rag it was and is, as well as what kind of stuff he got on with when behind that desk...
The writer's strike was Nov 2007 - Feb 2008, which was several years after the hacking scandal was uncovered. The hacking all took place prior to 2005 is my understanding.
Seth's being a rational adult and Piers is screaming "kick him in the yarbles!" I think Piers just wanted to make this a public feud and get it as heated and nasty as possible to boost his own ratings. Which makes him an asshole.
royalparadigm piers Morgan is a sick cunt he tapped the phone of a girl who was murdered "Millie Dowler". Before her body was found giving her parents hope she was still alive
fshfrghedht64 Joking aside: I don't actually dislike Seth. I just think he's a lazy sellout who could be making some brilliant TV if he just applied himself. I actually met an actor from Family Guy on the set of a movie once. At one point--I don't remember how this came up--I said "The Family Guy writers seem really smart, but are incredibly lazy." He confirmed all my suspicions when he told me the Family Guy writer's "room" is actually a Tiki Hut in the middle of a warehouse, with pot smoke constantly wafting out. It explains everything.
+LAVATORR Doing what you want to do everyday and making a living out of it is not selling out. I can see why you would call him lazy but that doesn't make him a sellout.
The Klespyrian he's a sellout because he's capable of much, much better work. In every episode of Family Guy there' at least one or two jokes that are really, really funny and make you think "God damn, this guy could be so much more if he just applied himself."
Piers morgan is a tabloid hack that got fired for making shit up about abuse of military prisoners. Why the fuck did anyone give him a podium to shout from in the US? You have far more interesting and talented people than this sack of shit.
It both surprises and disturbs me that Americans(seemingly) don't know this - Piers Morgan has been possibly the most reviled person in Britain for the last 15-20 years. He is loathed by both the right AND the left(which is quite a feat considering), he is regularly used in jokes that require a particularly oily, treacherous character for the punchline and Britain's most august satirical magazine, Private Eye, prints his name as Piers Moron so consistently that earlier in this post I almost typed it myself by mistake. To the vast majority of Britons it is both baffling and dismaying that the man has made such a success of himself Stateside in spite of his crimes against good journalism, human decency and general not-being-a-cuntness.
But he has money and a TV show here in america which means people listen to him. If you actually looked up his "statistics" you would realize hes a blithering idiot but people here dont do that. Just hope that most people understand common sense.
I really know nothing at all about him except that he has a show on CNN that I don't watch and never plan to unless he does something exceptionally stupid, in which case the American media will devour him like rabid dogs cause that's just what they do!
"It came from a good place, but it's execution was so completely over the line it bordered on ruthlessness" sums up the whole of Seth McFarlane's work in a nut shell. He's a satirist, but he's just not a very smart one. He makes his point, or tries to, by appealing to the lowest common denominator. I like the guy, but at the same time I don't understand the level of importance and power he's achieved. HE seems smarter than the material he puts out. I like him as person better than every show or movie he's ever done combined.
moonlily1 At least when South Park goes over the line it is to make a statement about something that means something. Like confronting censorship about Muhammad
ZeroChaosInferno It doesn't always mean something. Much of the time it's twenty minutes of viciously humiliating easy targets and then including a ten second "You know I learned something today" as a get out of jail free card at the end. They are very good at justifying petty cruelty. They do harm.
I think both shows have done more towards dumbing down the culture and normalizing cruelty than either of them have actually worked on a subversive level to make people more tolerant, or critical thinkers.
aerialkate the reason these shows are ruthless is because they separate the people who are able to make fun of themselves and society from those who have gigantic egos.
aerialkate I don't think either show CAUSES bullying. Bullying has always existed, and in some ways kids are becoming more aware and sensitive than they used to be. The shows just reinforce the message that cruelty is funny and that childish idiocy is marketable, and is sometimes hurtful to the viewer. How does a girl who gets picked on for her appearance feel watching Meg Griffin constantly being treated like complete shit for no reason except she's chubby and wears glasses, while her stupid and morbidly obese brother is exempt from the same kind of teasing and rejection? Basically, it's parents mentally and emotionally abusing their daughters being played for laughs.
Someone needs to do something about the way Twitter conducts themselves, especially with this suspension power they have. It's totally biased and unfair, and I am beginning to think more and more that it is a company that is backed by the GOP. I was suspended for 24 HOURS because I called Trump a "wanker". A wanker??? Oh, come on now. For 24 goddamn hours I was suspended for saying that, meanwhile you see Trump every fucking day saying worse shit than that about his enemies *and they let him get away with it!* Twitter needs to be confronted with this. I can't say anything about Trump, but he gets away with bloody murder just because he's president. Something doesn't smell right!
I appreciate how aware he is of situational dis Abel to say he still likes/respects someone who screamed at him and accept it was partially his fault without caving on his POV. A master class of grace from the least likely suspect
It is quite sad that Piers Morgan got all that flak for the gun control thing, and not for any of the gutter-journalist antics he committed before that. On gun control, he was more or less *in the right*, yet he got a hail-storm of abuse and threats of deportation. Here we see him trying to dig dirt out of a polite and mature McFarlane like the lowest form of pond scum, and in other cases we see Morgan soft-balling puff piece interviews with war criminals and traitors to democracy instead of doing his fucking job and demanding real answers. None of *that* drew flak! Morgan is and always has been a corporate shill, a joke, a Christian when it suits him to be, a smarmy holier than thou walking insult to true journalism.
check his twitter, he has evolved into something amazing. I hated him, now i enjoy watching his points on some stuff, he is still a prick though dont get me wrong.
Seth is such a diplomatic respectful dude. Got the same vibe off him when those radio presenters tried to get him to say shit about the creators of south park
Interesting fact: Seth MacFarlane was scheduled to board the flight that was hijacked and flown into the North Tower on 9/11, but missed it by 10 minutes because of a hangover and an incorrect departure time given to him by his travel agent.
Didn't know that, had to check the validity, and it is true. Although he doesn't consider the experience impacting, saying "it hasn't really affected me... people have a lot of close calls; you're crossing the street and you almost get hit by a car..... this one just happened to be related to something massive"
***** That's cool and all, I don't have an opinion one way or another on the guy, I just thought it was an interesting fact, but as for "I have no way of proving if what you are saying is true," there's a section of his Wiki page devoted to that, whether you want to accept/doubt that as a source that's up to you.
Seth handled this interview like such a professional and seems (even more) like a gentleman. But I totally agree with Jeremy Clarkson's negative comments of Piers (eg in Top Gear), because Piers is terrible at interviews. He interrupts Seth all the time, just starts talking about something else completely. In the meantime, he cuts Seth off in the middle of sentences. As well as taking too much focus from his guest. The guest should always be the main subject. Not the host, who should be a good listener, ask well formulated questions (probably follows a script), and a host must come up with good follow up questions. Piers does none of that, just an exceptionally bad host. Piers is awful and I am so bloody happy to see that his show got cancelled! Win!
Brian Griffin's character in Family Guy really shows that Seth MacFarlane does have a sense of humor about himself. It's almost as if he wrote that character to mock his own pretentiousness.
No, he did that LATER, due to audience-complaints; before that, he really WAS that pretentious, and started token-writing to make the dog LOOK pretentious. Like Quagmire preaching about celibacy.
Very good point. Family Guy was great in the early years, then once Brian became the liberal voice in the final few years of the Bush administration, some episodes were unwatchable. It's rounded back the past couple years and has been much better, although part of me is surprised it's still on the air at all given how many times MacFarlane himself has said he wants to end it.
Seth played this smart. He explained why he disagreed w/ Jon but didn't take Piers' bait and exacerbate the situation any further. Piers came off as such an ass-hat, clearly butt-hurt at all the times Jon skewered him and the other folks over at CNN on his show. He was so desperate to get his revenge through Seth, but Seth's clearly got a lot of respect for Jon and focused more on why the phone call happened as opposed to just the phone call itself. He probably even agrees w/ Jon about these guys. Good on you Seth.
Piers is a pussy...wanted for his involvement in a phone hacking scandal in 'bloody' ole England..that's why he is over adding to the liberal diatribe.
gotta admire MacFarlanes diplomacy. because Jon Stewart is a juggernaut and he really is a voice of rationalism and empathy, but I was surprised that he didn't stand in solidarity however I have to admit I'm not totally familiar with the strike and I know Jon Stewart in the past has been on the side of the Working Man so he might have had his reasons
My Union has given me everything I have. I was treated like hell at dozens of jobs, and got nowhere. The Teamsters have guaranteed my family a home and a future.
I bet it will give you an unemployment check too when your bosses get wise and realize that all the unskilled labor can be done by immigrants for half the cost.
I'm not sure what you're driving at with that generalization, Bestof1983, but if you're referring to mrthebillman's craft as unskilled labor, which is doubtful since it's covered by the teamsters, don't you think the bosses would have done that already years ago? Also (and this is not perpetuating the teamsters involvement with the mob persona) the teamsters is not a group i would cross the line with if i were either a boss or an employee. they are a pretty powerful union.
not referring to anyone's skills, you're doing all of the inference yourself Fred LeBrun...and by the way, a powerful union like the teamsters would certainly make me as a boss want to go south of the border. as long as nafta's around, that's what's going to happen.
The irony of piers morgan saying, "if you can't take it don't dish it out" is jolting. Talk about someone who is completely unaware of his own hypocrisy. What a perfect tool he is.
If I was Seth I would have paused. Looked Piers dead in the eyes and said "I don't know what you're talking about, I never received such a call from Jon Stewart." I doubt Stewart would admit to it. So I would put Piers in a position where he would only be able to continue talking about it if he admitted phone hacking.
The whole point of why John Stewart was pissed at Seth is that Seth had enough integrity to call Stewart out. It is that integrity that likely would keep Seth from lying about the call. And Stewart should be ashamed at his hypocrisy.
Actually Jon Stewart staying on the air during the writer's strike was the greatest endorsement for the writers, that the writers are crucial to any show including Jon Stewart's which he was the head writer of. The reason it was such a great endorsement was because the show sucked while the writers were on strike and I remember Jon Stewart even poked fun at this fact and gave them his support on his show during the writer's strike. If the writers never came back to his show I would have stopped watching it because it was significantly less funny without them and I suspect I was in the majority with that opinion for those who remember watching his show before and during the writer's strike.
You are an extremist, just like the terrorists in the Middle East, because you want to kill people who have different views. You're radicalized and unable to have a rational conversation. You're what's wrong with your country, and anybody who isn't extremist, conservative or progressive, would agree.
Generally pretty much anyone who is able to think agrees with you here, niamh. Its funny how the one talking about a supposed "extreme leftist narrative" is using the word brainwashed. Claiming that Jon Stewart is brainwashing people by saying stuff you dont want to hear because it doesnt fit your worldview is kinda ironic, John, considering where your worldview comes from. One look at your profile and the stuff you watch (Lauren Southern, really? Holy shit you are beyond saving) shows us everything we need to know.
+john allen Who the hell are you talking to? Nothing you just said is a an actual reply to any of the comments above. You're just talking to yourself. I suggest a safe space where you can talk to fellow extremists whose opinion on anything in life nobody wanted to hear: /r/the_donald
John Allen has just learned more Truth about EVERYONE in hollywood than the rest of you clearly. I'm sure much of his frustration comes from having to speak to people who are sleeping through their life and think their opinions are just as valid as his. No offense, but if you are still a part of the sleeping hive-mind narrative then you should sit back and listen a little more. If you don't realize for a fact that over 95% of individuals in hollywood are broken beyond repair then you are in for a rude awakening.
Wtf Piers Morgan? I can not stand tv hosts who just talk over their guests the whole time and constantly interject these stupid run-on questions. Makes me wonder why the hell he invited a celebrity on his show if he was just going to drown them out with his own bs interruptions the whole time..
***** I'm a bigger of Jon too but that doesnt make him right. Of, course, we don't know the whole story but it appears at this point insanely hipocritical and ego-driven to call up Seth. Seth even conceded that the joke itself was too far, but stood by his stand point.
If you had actually seen the skit, it was basically Seth calling the writers assholes and Jon who was a big time supporter of the writer strike. Seth's argument: Writers earn 100-200k a year and should be happy with that since that's much higher than the average person, they can still afford pricey cars and other junk, and everyone earns less than their boss. Jon's argument: They're part of multimillion dollar projects and their bosses earn tens of millions of dollars a year, and have the right to request more money since the projects couldn't exist without them. You can think what you want and I've tried to leave my views out of my description of it. That being said, Seth is jokingly pompous, and less genuine than Jon in my opinion. In the same way Colbert can't let the satire routine shut down, Seth can't let his hiding behind one-sided hyperbole routine shut down. So, I find them both annoying outside of their shows, but brilliant in them. Jon I just find brilliant virtually every time I see him. On a separate note though, I can't blame Seth on this show since it was forced out of him - Everyone has differing views, so why make a big deal out of it Piers? Oh right, because his program is like 80% of other programs like it, a drama whore.
What was the dispute between Seth and Jon about? Did it have something to do with The Writer's Strike? What was the 'ill-measured" joke on Family Guy about?
Or Seth told him beforehand so he had an excuse to bring it up and clear the air on what actually happened if anyone else did hear about it. Also it makes for a good interview. Jesus.
That's bullshit though. I do think Jon Stewart is an fantastically talented person, nobody can take that away from him. But that phonecall though? That's some ironic shit. And you do know if the situation was reversed, Stewart would have crucified Macfarlane publicly, in a heartbeat too. Be honest.
If anyone doesn't know, Jon Stewart said some shit about piers morgan (like "a british guy no one knows") when larry king was leaving CNN. I don't think Piers ever let it go. Piers is a lot better though than someone like Tucker C, who literally was radicalized more out of desperation for job security (due to jon stewart)
Dang. I clicked on here expecting to hear a line of crap from MacFarlane about Stewart. But I totally understand his point of view. He was calm, he was rational, and he didn't bring emotion into it. I respect both men and I'm glad to see that my respect is justified.
Sounds like Seth has no problem with Jon... They just had a minor disagreement and played jokes on each other and it got blown way out of proportion. So what?
You're absolutely right - this was a minor difference of opinion that both parties (The Fine Gentlemen & Comedic Geniuses that they are) had no interest in pursuing, but that "Big Media" just had to sensationalize. Small wonder that CNN tagged & uploaded this clip....like a spoiled child screaming for attention - their sad desperation is palpable. "I think everyone should treat one another in a Christian manner. I will not, however, be responsible for the consequences."
"He can dish it out but he can't take it," said the man who got up and walked off a newscast because he didn't like the way his coworkers were talking about him.
That awkward moment when ajournalist who in the past has illegally hacked people's phones starts talking to you about the details of a phone call that you hadn't made public
Jesus Christ... You ask a guy a question he starts to answer and you IMMEDIATELY interrupt him EVERY FUCKING TIME. How did this guy EVER have a talk show???
He's sneaky. I think he's trying to get Seth on edge so he will make an impulsive statement that he doesn't want to. He knows Seth isn't going say anything unless he goads him and he seems to have no 'journalistic' integrity. Results oriented.
I like how he seen both sides. And knows where he went long, yet knows where the job is the job. He knew the right and wrong and agnolaged his, and the opposers down fall, or argument if you will. Pretty cool.
From 2:46 to 3:05...That is one of the BIGGEST pet peeves of mine. Cutting people off and not letting them get a word in. I almost yelled "DUDE, STFU AND LET HIM TALK!" But then I remembered they can't hear me lol.
I love Seth as the Captain in "The Orville." If we ever go to war with China over Taiwan, I want Seth MacFarlane commanding our Space Fleet. Yes, we have a Space Fleet. Don't you ever watch CNN?
By staying on the air, Jon Stewart brought heaps of attention to the writer's strike, it was the theme of those shows. He definitely did the right thing and Seth is blind to it, to say that he should have been "out there helping us."
Seth is a writer obv, and was looking out for himself and friends, probably threw out Stewart’s name for views. You hit the nail on the head, either he’s incredibly dumb for insulting Jon in the first place then calling him out for the very thing he has been doing for ages (helping the little guy out). Or it was all a ploy, great acting and smart for garnering attention/discussion.
You have to think about it this way though. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart is the largest (or was at the time) source of news for Americans. Sure, it might be on comedy central, but one could argue that if he were to shut down his show for a writer strike, he can no longer COVER the strike. His time would be better spent reporting on the strike. Also, what if you took down an "actual" news show for the writers' strike? I think this illustrates that Stewart is in a very gray area here. I think Stewart made the right choice.
Coco Parker-Wilt No, the biggest problem is that shows like the Daily Show and The Colbert Report are the closest thing to news the US has. Sure, there are indeed other good sources as well, but many of them of foreign nature, like RT. (Although RT in the US is its own company of course) This however is not to say that that makes everything all fair and square, I'm merely commenting on how much the DS is in fact news or at least an extremely important addition to whatever you pick as your news source of the big networks.
My issue wasn't about the strike in anyway or who covered what..my issue is calling it news in anyway. Does Bill Maher's show get labeled as news? No a talk show with comedy talking about news events. Not news in any way
Oh absolutely! I'm just saying, that you'd better get news from them, albeit a talkshow, than from say FAUX. But as in what category BM, JS and SC should be put, indeed that'd not be news.
It would be nice if Piers would shut up and let his guests talk.
Jarod Smith it would be nice if piers could stop talking all together
Jarod Smith Thats why he doesnt have a show any more.....
Unfortunately, he never does, and I don't think ever will!
I started clapping after “if piers would shut up”
i agree
"Let's take him on together! I'm not scared!"
Taking on Jon Stewart with Piers Morgan is like taking on Usain Bolt with a broken leg.
Not nearly enough likes on this one, and I don't even understand all the piers hate.
It's like fighting Dio Brando with Speedwagon.
Obligatory jo-jokes.
"You think that's baaad? Remember the time I took on Usain Bolt with a broken leg?" *quick cut to foot race track*
"Hey, we runnin', or what?" *cut back to living room*
*canned laughter*
Eu Because he is garbage.
American idol
Piers just can't understand that people as intelligent as Jon and Seth can work out their own disagreements on their own without making it a national boxing match, and they did. Funny how it's the comedians that end up being the more mature and respecful than the the serious media personalities.
+Throat Yogurt love it so true
+Throat Yogurt serious media personalities? where?
verbaledge People who aren't comedians but unwittingly say things that are just as laughable
+Throat Yogurt that debate helped no one. 'THEY WORK IN TV' and protested more money? Overpaid they are for what I wanted cancelled! Too much writers are in line.
+Tiana Pi Tesr The people striking were mostly the people that never step foot in front of a camera. Writers practically get pennies on the dollar compared to actors. Yet they are the reason we get everything that's not strictly improvisational or reality television.
So apparently nobody here knows the story behind it, so I'm just gonna put it out there:
The thing with the writer's strike was that, unlike other shows Jon was technically in charge of the show, but when it came to the payment they had to work something out with Comedy Central. So he had no Influence on whatsoever; he did run the show after all because of the other employees (camera-men, production assistants and so on). It was a writer's strike, not an everyone-who's-on-the-show strike, but without a show no payment for the other employees. I think Seth's heart was with all the writers over the country, while Jon thought of all the employees on the show. So technically, I think they both have a reasonable point and there is no simple way to solve such a problem. So what happened was, Jon called Seth, explained his point to him, they had a debate, they came to a conclusion, all fine. And then comes Piers and makes a problem out of it... like, seriously dude. They are smart, grown-up men, they can handle it.
Btw, Seth's teeth are so white they are blinding me XD
Nat Vasch Thank you. You saved me a google search.
@@mirenda5160 You're welcome :D
Nat Vasch thank you for not commenting about how obnoxious piers Morgan was
Well thankyou for that because I watched the clip and still didn't understand what it was all about, I had an idea but your post cleared it up
it also didn't that Morgan just wouldn't STFU and let Seth speak, what's the point of asking a question only to talk over their answer
Yeah, people need to stop polarizing every issue so much... Piers seems sooo determined to spark a conflict there, when even Seth is like "It wasn't that big a deal, he called me up and kind of lectured me" or whatever, and Piers is like, "Jon Stewart's a pompous dick! You hate him, right? Come on, let's start a fight!!"
...The zero-sum nonsense needs to stop, m'kay?
Also Family Guy needs to stop
Piers just comes across as a sneaky little weasel trying to get Seth and Jon to feud with one another.
There's a reason why Piers Morgan comes across as a sneaky little weasel. It's probably something to do with him being a sneaky little weasel.
Good one . . . LOL!
Yep. I had a supervisor like this. He tried to make these two coworkers who were good friends fight each other by telling each of them that one was trying to frame the other for a mistake. We all knew this guy was a grade A shit-stirrer who had zero respect for his subordinates, so they saw through the horseshit. It just added to the list of reasons we didn't respect him.
and you come across as a libtard douche
Seth sounds extremely civil here while Piers comes off like a desperate teenage girl wanting to go after someone.
more like a desperate adult man
BlueHeartXXX an ankle-biting bitch
***** Unbiased? You mean when he insults people? When he belittles his guests for daring to disagree with him?
You should stfu if you don't know what you are talking about...
***** yah he did "such a great unbiast job" that he LOST said job. Was FIRED. He had NOBODY who agreed with him... He was one of the most ignorant and arrogant ppl on television. They recognized it after so much hate against him constantly.. So Much that their entire network was losing viewers, support, donations etc... Yeah so ur "unbiast" and journalist who "did a great job" is an anti american prick, who lost his job for his biased and opinionated reporting....
Piers Morgan was just awful. One of the most ignorant/arrogant people in media.
We were so glad when he left the UK for the USA. He left after being involved in multiple scandals. We thought we were shot of him but now he's back on British tv even though no-one wants to see him. I was hoping America would keep him.
He IS awful. Just one of the worst people within the media.
Nobody of Seth's stature should be in a room with Piers Morgan, the narcissist's narcifssist. If anyone should ever be cancelled, Morgan should be. Morgan is an important voice for Morgan.
Funny thing is his arc is somewhat similar to Kanye West's. People loved them for hating Bush to the point of self-parody. But when those people realized that the two of them found a Republican they could love in Trump, everyone involved in the love-in started to look like fools. Even though the signs they were mentally wanting in matters political were there from the start.
Was going to say the same thing but you got there 5 years before me
I don't think Morgan's parents taught him that speaking over people is rude.
Piers, it's rude to talk over people
Us brits hate him. At least Seth can be polite
If you try to tell him that he wouldnt let you finish that sentence
Respect to Seth MacFarlane for maintaining his composure and dignity. It's clear that he really respects Jon Stewart and that, despite disagreeing with Jon, he acknowledges how what he did could be seen as being in the wrong. Great respect for both him and Stewart.
Piers Morgan on the other hand, fuck him. He was so horrible at his job. Even in this interview, he's just trying to rile Seth up unnecessarily, and create a feud where there doesn't need to be one.
Personally, I think Stewart is a total hypocrite if his argument was "Who are you to be the moral arbiter" when that's his whole career. Looks to me like Seth was just afraid that Stewart had a better forum for ridiculing him. that makes Stewart a hypocrite AND a bully.
Stewart didn't really make this public though, it was a private conversation between the two of them where Stewart made his opinions known. It would be bullying if he did this publicly on his show and used his fanbase to harass Seth, but that's not what happened. His career IMO isn't to be moral arbiter, but to point out the hypocrisies of those with a voice and influence (the media, the government). He's a satirist, he ridicules. I get where you're coming from, but again IMO, he does a good job, better than most, at managing to be a critic while not having an agenda. That's why he refuses to ever go into politics, because he likes that outsider role.
Piers claiming Jon’s relevance is purely moralistic??? look in the mirror Piers. You are it.
Excellent point! Pretty much what i said only you elaborated and in different wording. Seth and Jon are two great men
@@Martial-MatJon doesn’t act like he’s always the moral arbiter. He’s a comedian who makes jokes and pokes fun at the hypocrisy of politics. You’re the same idiot who conflates Chris rock making fun of John McCain for gettin captured in a comedy special with Trump openly disrespecting him without provocation and directly citing him being captured, during the same armed conflict which Trump famously refused to serve in out of blatant cowardice, as a reason for not liking or respecting him.
I'm no fan of Seth MacFarlane as a person, but he was trying to explain a respectful disagreement, and Piers couldn't grasp that. No wonder they kicked him out of Britain.
But why did he have to come here?
We kicked him out because (1) he hacked a dead teenage girl's cell phone, and (2) because in 1995 he was guilty of share-tipping in the tabloid newspaper he was editor of. The teenage girl was 13-year-old Milly Dowler, who was murdered.
@@MattSingh1 yo WHAT.
@@MattSingh1 well he's on good morning britain now isn't he
@@danzwku edit: he is no longer on Good Morning Britain
Its no wonder Morgan got fired. Hes just obnoxious.
that's also why we kicked him out to the States, and now you've gone and sent him back, bastards, we thought we were rid of him
If you find Mr. Morgan interesting, then its not surprising that you don't see 'it'. You likely don't see much.
Đuro Razbojnik Everyone has an opinion. The ones that can convey that opinion with eloquence are the ones that deserve respect. This guy is an obnoxious idiot.
Wulf NOBODY "Deserves" respect... and to think someone does, equates to no respect at all. Respect is earned, never "Deserved."
Being able to articulate your opinions like an adult, with big boy words and no contempt, is earning it.
Perhaps you missed my point. Or maybe you don't value communication. You definitely read too many motivational posters though.
Morgan: "if you cant take it dont dish it out"
Also Morgan: "you guys are being mean, im walking out of a live show"
I love that Piers made this huge attempt to try to make people pick sides between Seth MacFarlane and Jon Stewart (two people everyone knows have flaws, but the general opinion is that they are very good, passionate, honest people) and the end result is everyone agreeing that Piers is a piece of crap.
this
Wait what did Jon Stewart do?
he was a scab during a strike basically and seth called him out on it
LOL so perfectly put.
I don't care for either one, but MacFarlane is more of an all-around satirist, whereas Stewart is a shill for the Democrat Party.
I'm not a fan of Seth, but he handled himself extremely well in this interview. He is very gracious and humble here. Very measured.
Seth is hit-or-miss with me: I either think he's goddamn hilarious or just completely unfunny. That being said, I totally agree with you. There are politicians - people whose job it is to be diplomatic - who have not responded with such grace. Well done, Seth.
He can be an extremely funny human being, but his staunch support for Hillary Clinton is pretty disgusting. I loved A million ways to die.
Because we should support Trump? You are the reason the U.S. is going down the toilet.
Kevin Russell Exactly who are talking to here?
+Stephen Schaal he endorsed Bernie first
In the first minute of this, Seth asks at least 3 times how Piers found out about this; almost everyone back here in the UK will know exactly how Piers found out.
nigga be hacking phones lol
+Véronique Lafrance About 20 years ago, Piers Morgan worked for a newspaper here in the UK called the Daily Mirror. Whilst he was there, it became widely acknowledged that he and others would hack into people's phone messages (like celebrities) to get news/scoops for their articles. I'm assuming he did the same or similar to Seth here.
+Véronique Lafrance and you KNOW Seth KNOWS THAT ! ! !
+Shinoda908 Is it weird that I read your post in an English accent?
Gurwinder Singh Hahaha, it's understandable!
goddamn piers morgan is that dude in the background that just screams fight even though he's the weakest looking dude in the group
"You are the most deep digging journalist"
It's called phone tapping Seth!
😂😂😂👍🏻
+BowNow beat me to it.
+BowNow I was about to say - run a "bug test" in your house!
+David Gooding
I wouldnt doubt that at times...?
+BowNow As soon as Seth said "I've never told anybody that" It was pretty obvious that Piers done some phone hacking.
Why does that man bother having guests?
he doesn't anymore. canceled show.
canceled cause he sucks?
Micah Amey thank God.
Lol exactly
No wonder jeremy clarkson punched him
he punched which one?
+Penske Material morgan
Last of Brunnen G lol I had no idea
Clarkson talks about it in a parkinson interview I think, go find it, its pretty funny
It was piers who got punched? Fuck that sucks Jeremy is 10 times the man Piers is
I don’t like family guy but Seth is a really personable, smart guy.
Ryan Dixon yep. Both he and Jon are. Surprised Jon unleashed on him. Especially because you can tell Seth looked up to him politically. Strange world we live in. Piers is just another dude in a tie with an agenda.
You don’t like family guy ?
You’re dead to me
Same, I really enjoy Orville though...
He is brilliant in The Orville, if you like Seth you will probably like that show
Modern family Guy Is Garbage
American Dad is....Ok
No wonder the British don't want him back.
How about we keep John Oliver and you Brits take Piers? 😏
We really dont.
He's the first thing people wake up to in this country, isn't he? XD
@@CommonCent how about you have them both?
@@2_mutch what if we threw in Donald Trump? You guys seemed to enjoy him during his last visit
So... Neither Seth or Jon has ever told this story about a PHONE call, and Piers Morgan, ex-editor of a MURDOCH newspaper, the Daily Mail, knows about said phone call? Leveson anyone?
The Daily Mail isn't owned by Murdoch. Piers wrote for the News of the World, which WAS owned by Murdoch.
Team BombHead Ah, right you are. Shocking mistake on my part, but there we go. Though of course Morgan did edit the Mail, and we all know what kind of a rag it was and is, as well as what kind of stuff he got on with when behind that desk...
The writer's strike was Nov 2007 - Feb 2008, which was several years after the hacking scandal was uncovered. The hacking all took place prior to 2005 is my understanding.
Oh I see. And it's my understanding that no one cares buddy.
Jesus Christ, let the man speak. This guy likes the sound of his own voice too much.
Which is ironic, because Seth's voice is so much more pleasant.
@@pryingeyes1551Yeah, Seth should get into voice work.
@@HOTD108_ bird is the word
"How did you find out about this phone call?" Well Seth he probably hacked your phone, that's kinda his thing
Howard Stern told him I bet.
Seth's being a rational adult and Piers is screaming "kick him in the yarbles!"
I think Piers just wanted to make this a public feud and get it as heated and nasty as possible to boost his own ratings. Which makes him an asshole.
uhm seth mcfarlane is scared to death saying anything about jon stewart
Gregory Eatroff was that "yarbles" in reference to clockwork orange? If so, horrorshow comment.
Gregory Eatroff if he ever comes back to the uk he will be charged with gross Larson and phone tapping
@@dr.banana2828 or scared to death of accidentally starting a pointless feud that has zero upside
Yes, Piers was being an a-hole. Seth is smart enough to know Jon is bot the guy to debate because he is really smart.
Seth is like "No dude. Seriously. How the fuck do you know about that." and Piers Morgan is just like "Nah man. It's cool. Don't worry about it."
royalparadigm piers Morgan is a sick cunt he tapped the phone of a girl who was murdered "Millie Dowler". Before her body was found giving her parents hope she was still alive
It takes a lot to make me side with Seth McFarlane, but Piers Morgan is so unlikeable he actually causes a person to argue against their own position.
+LAVATORR After a hard, difficult day, you actually made me laugh.
+LAVATORR how come some people hate seth , i dont know much about him apart from hes the main creator of familly guy ,
fshfrghedht64 Joking aside: I don't actually dislike Seth. I just think he's a lazy sellout who could be making some brilliant TV if he just applied himself.
I actually met an actor from Family Guy on the set of a movie once. At one point--I don't remember how this came up--I said "The Family Guy writers seem really smart, but are incredibly lazy." He confirmed all my suspicions when he told me the Family Guy writer's "room" is actually a Tiki Hut in the middle of a warehouse, with pot smoke constantly wafting out.
It explains everything.
+LAVATORR Doing what you want to do everyday and making a living out of it is not selling out. I can see why you would call him lazy but that doesn't make him a sellout.
The Klespyrian
he's a sellout because he's capable of much, much better work. In every episode of Family Guy there' at least one or two jokes that are really, really funny and make you think "God damn, this guy could be so much more if he just applied himself."
Considering Piers Morgan's history with hacking phones and MacFarlane's confusion on how he found out about this...I've got to wonder...
I was thinking the very same thing.
This brit would get ripped apart by John Stewert, simple as that. Seth MacFarlane would stand a far better chance.
Piers morgan is a tabloid hack that got fired for making shit up about abuse of military prisoners. Why the fuck did anyone give him a podium to shout from in the US? You have far more interesting and talented people than this sack of shit.
United States of Nerd Guy was a sign that CNN clearly doesn't give a shit anymore.
He's a rating juggernaut unfortunately. One of the main reasons I stopped watching TV. The US can keep him.
SamcroSon Thankfully CNN canned his ass, he's not been on TV since I don't think.
Why do you have to mention that he's british...its not relevant haha plus we dont want to be associated with piers morgan...hes your problem now
I don't think Piers Morgan understands the purpose of hosting interview guests.
It both surprises and disturbs me that Americans(seemingly) don't know this - Piers Morgan has been possibly the most reviled person in Britain for the last 15-20 years. He is loathed by both the right AND the left(which is quite a feat considering), he is regularly used in jokes that require a particularly oily, treacherous character for the punchline and Britain's most august satirical magazine, Private Eye, prints his name as Piers Moron so consistently that earlier in this post I almost typed it myself by mistake.
To the vast majority of Britons it is both baffling and dismaying that the man has made such a success of himself Stateside in spite of his crimes against good journalism, human decency and general not-being-a-cuntness.
I signed the petition to have him deported.
Your points show just how unthinking our liberals are in whom they choose to follow.
I really don't care where he's from or who he is cause nobody I know watches him anyway so he can go anywhere to be ignored as far as I'm concerned
But he has money and a TV show here in america which means people listen to him. If you actually looked up his "statistics" you would realize hes a blithering idiot but people here dont do that. Just hope that most people understand common sense.
I really know nothing at all about him except that he has a show on CNN that I don't watch and never plan to unless he does something exceptionally stupid, in which case the American media will devour him like rabid dogs cause that's just what they do!
Why am I just seeing this 12 years later?
"It came from a good place, but it's execution was so completely over the line it bordered on ruthlessness" sums up the whole of Seth McFarlane's work in a nut shell. He's a satirist, but he's just not a very smart one. He makes his point, or tries to, by appealing to the lowest common denominator. I like the guy, but at the same time I don't understand the level of importance and power he's achieved. HE seems smarter than the material he puts out. I like him as person better than every show or movie he's ever done combined.
moonlily1 At least when South Park goes over the line it is to make a statement about something that means something. Like confronting censorship about Muhammad
ZeroChaosInferno It doesn't always mean something. Much of the time it's twenty minutes of viciously humiliating easy targets and then including a ten second "You know I learned something today" as a get out of jail free card at the end. They are very good at justifying petty cruelty. They do harm.
I think both shows have done more towards dumbing down the culture and normalizing cruelty than either of them have actually worked on a subversive level to make people more tolerant, or critical thinkers.
aerialkate the reason these shows are ruthless is because they separate the people who are able to make fun of themselves and society from those who have gigantic egos.
aerialkate
I don't think either show CAUSES bullying. Bullying has always existed, and in some ways kids are becoming more aware and sensitive than they used to be. The shows just reinforce the message that cruelty is funny and that childish idiocy is marketable, and is sometimes hurtful to the viewer. How does a girl who gets picked on for her appearance feel watching Meg Griffin constantly being treated like complete shit for no reason except she's chubby and wears glasses, while her stupid and morbidly obese brother is exempt from the same kind of teasing and rejection? Basically, it's parents mentally and emotionally abusing their daughters being played for laughs.
Piers Just SHhhhhhhhhh ok shhhhhhhush
JaxBlade and
JaxBlade it seems like whatever video I watch you are in the comments somewhere
Someone needs to do something about the way Twitter conducts themselves, especially with this suspension power they have. It's totally biased and unfair, and I am beginning to think more and more that it is a company that is backed by the GOP. I was suspended for 24 HOURS because I called Trump a "wanker". A wanker??? Oh, come on now. For 24 goddamn hours I was suspended for saying that, meanwhile you see Trump every fucking day saying worse shit than that about his enemies *and they let him get away with it!* Twitter needs to be confronted with this. I can't say anything about Trump, but he gets away with bloody murder just because he's president. Something doesn't smell right!
Yeah, let Seth speak.
JaxBlade Someone please shut that go nad up.
Seth was reasonable, Piers is annoying.
I appreciate how aware he is of situational dis Abel to say he still likes/respects someone who screamed at him and accept it was partially his fault without caving on his POV. A master class of grace from the least likely suspect
His normal voice is bryan
idonotmakevidsyet Bryan’s normal name is Brian
have no fear captain obvious is here
Brain*
Someone call?
It's always weird how his voices changed over time. Especially Bryan
It is quite sad that Piers Morgan got all that flak for the gun control thing, and not for any of the gutter-journalist antics he committed before that. On gun control, he was more or less *in the right*, yet he got a hail-storm of abuse and threats of deportation. Here we see him trying to dig dirt out of a polite and mature McFarlane like the lowest form of pond scum, and in other cases we see Morgan soft-balling puff piece interviews with war criminals and traitors to democracy instead of doing his fucking job and demanding real answers. None of *that* drew flak! Morgan is and always has been a corporate shill, a joke, a Christian when it suits him to be, a smarmy holier than thou walking insult to true journalism.
Wow, well said, I completely agree
Thank god Piers Morgan is off the air
Yeah thanks he's back over here now, thought we had got rid of him. blokes a plonker
check his twitter, he has evolved into something amazing. I hated him, now i enjoy watching his points on some stuff, he is still a prick though dont get me wrong.
Seth is such a diplomatic respectful dude. Got the same vibe off him when those radio presenters tried to get him to say shit about the creators of south park
You can TELL he wants this converation to end. These are colleagues having a professional disagreement and Piers was trying to turn this into a feud
Interesting fact: Seth MacFarlane was scheduled to board the flight that was hijacked and flown into the North Tower on 9/11, but missed it by 10 minutes because of a hangover and an incorrect departure time given to him by his travel agent.
Didn't know that, had to check the validity, and it is true. Although he doesn't consider the experience impacting, saying "it hasn't really affected me... people have a lot of close calls; you're crossing the street and you almost get hit by a car..... this one just happened to be related to something massive"
Chasen Kukuda You didn't blindly trust information given to you by a stranger on the internet in the TH-cam comments section?
*****
That's cool and all, I don't have an opinion one way or another on the guy, I just thought it was an interesting fact, but as for "I have no way of proving if what you are saying is true," there's a section of his Wiki page devoted to that, whether you want to accept/doubt that as a source that's up to you.
So your saying being drunk and stupid saves lives? Well hell, I should play the lead in the next Superman movie in that case.
***** I didn't know the story until I read my comment so plz don't hate.
Seth handled that like a gentleman. It was the host that was begging the question for ratings. Seth wasn't trying to badmouth anyone.
Seth handled this interview like such a professional and seems (even more) like a gentleman. But I totally agree with Jeremy Clarkson's negative comments of Piers (eg in Top Gear), because Piers is terrible at interviews. He interrupts Seth all the time, just starts talking about something else completely. In the meantime, he cuts Seth off in the middle of sentences. As well as taking too much focus from his guest. The guest should always be the main subject. Not the host, who should be a good listener, ask well formulated questions (probably follows a script), and a host must come up with good follow up questions. Piers does none of that, just an exceptionally bad host.
Piers is awful and I am so bloody happy to see that his show got cancelled! Win!
This video was more about Piers Morgan than Seth McFarlane. He wouldn't even let the poor dude talk.
Seth MacFarlane is THE model of how to conduct yourself in an interview. Absolutely love his comedic genius and composed self when in public.
Brian Griffin's character in Family Guy really shows that Seth MacFarlane does have a sense of humor about himself. It's almost as if he wrote that character to mock his own pretentiousness.
No, he did that LATER, due to audience-complaints; before that, he really WAS that pretentious, and started token-writing to make the dog LOOK pretentious. Like Quagmire preaching about celibacy.
Very good point. Family Guy was great in the early years, then once Brian became the liberal voice in the final few years of the Bush administration, some episodes were unwatchable. It's rounded back the past couple years and has been much better, although part of me is surprised it's still on the air at all given how many times MacFarlane himself has said he wants to end it.
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Brian literally is the human being, personified. That's the irony in the show really. Pretty sure he originally wanted to name it "Family Dog".
Brian reminds me of Bill Maher.
"You're the most deep-digging journalist I've ever seen." Oooohhh, Seth, you've got no idea.
I would love to wake up every day to the sound of Seth MacFarlane, narrating my life as I go about my day.
If there's one expert on the subject of "You can dish it out, but you can't take it", it's definitely Piers Morgan.
Seth played this smart. He explained why he disagreed w/ Jon but didn't take Piers' bait and exacerbate the situation any further. Piers came off as such an ass-hat, clearly butt-hurt at all the times Jon skewered him and the other folks over at CNN on his show. He was so desperate to get his revenge through Seth, but Seth's clearly got a lot of respect for Jon and focused more on why the phone call happened as opposed to just the phone call itself. He probably even agrees w/ Jon about these guys. Good on you Seth.
Piers is a pussy...wanted for his involvement in a phone hacking scandal in 'bloody' ole England..that's why he is over adding to the liberal diatribe.
exactly what I wanted to say, thankfully I was reading comments to avoid that awkward double post.
Why you would go on his show at all..... I can’t imagine 🤷🏻♂️
Seth: "How did you find out about this?"
OH GOD, IF ONLY YOU KNEW ABOUT PIERS AND HIS TIME IN BRITAIN.
gotta admire MacFarlanes diplomacy. because Jon Stewart is a juggernaut and he really is a voice of rationalism and empathy, but I was surprised that he didn't stand in solidarity however I have to admit I'm not totally familiar with the strike and I know Jon Stewart in the past has been on the side of the Working Man so he might have had his reasons
Piers kept talking over him so much I have no idea what the argument was about
wow, piers wasn't trying to lead him at all
lol, no kidding
My Union has given me everything I have.
I was treated like hell at dozens of jobs, and got nowhere. The Teamsters have guaranteed my family a home and a future.
Yes, but a "union" sounds sooo much like _Soviet Union_ and I'm too uneducated to know the difference, so.. I'm down-voting your comment.
amanda miller
omfg! You ruined sports for me!!
I bet it will give you an unemployment check too when your bosses get wise and realize that all the unskilled labor can be done by immigrants for half the cost.
I'm not sure what you're driving at with that generalization, Bestof1983, but if you're referring to mrthebillman's craft as unskilled labor, which is doubtful since it's covered by the teamsters, don't you think the bosses would have done that already years ago? Also (and this is not perpetuating the teamsters involvement with the mob persona) the teamsters is not a group i would cross the line with if i were either a boss or an employee. they are a pretty powerful union.
not referring to anyone's skills, you're doing all of the inference yourself Fred LeBrun...and by the way, a powerful union like the teamsters would certainly make me as a boss want to go south of the border. as long as nafta's around, that's what's going to happen.
The irony of piers morgan saying, "if you can't take it don't dish it out" is jolting. Talk about someone who is completely unaware of his own hypocrisy. What a perfect tool he is.
If I was Seth I would have paused. Looked Piers dead in the eyes and said "I don't know what you're talking about, I never received such a call from Jon Stewart." I doubt Stewart would admit to it. So I would put Piers in a position where he would only be able to continue talking about it if he admitted phone hacking.
You're less honest than Seth MacFarlane.
The whole point of why John Stewart was pissed at Seth is that Seth had enough integrity to call Stewart out. It is that integrity that likely would keep Seth from lying about the call. And Stewart should be ashamed at his hypocrisy.
Actually Jon Stewart staying on the air during the writer's strike was the greatest endorsement for the writers, that the writers are crucial to any show including Jon Stewart's which he was the head writer of. The reason it was such a great endorsement was because the show sucked while the writers were on strike and I remember Jon Stewart even poked fun at this fact and gave them his support on his show during the writer's strike. If the writers never came back to his show I would have stopped watching it because it was significantly less funny without them and I suspect I was in the majority with that opinion for those who remember watching his show before and during the writer's strike.
+adfggffffffddffd didn't the daily show just put up reruns during the writers strike??
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Nope and it sucked.
Interesting perspective.
+adfggffffffddffd People don't go on strike so that they can get an "endorsement", they do it so they can improve their circumstances.
Dr Tarantism
An endorsement from someone can help lead to improving their circumstances.
Seth always comes across as likeable and pragmatic.
Seth McFarlane and Jon Stewart are both liberal propagandists ! They should both be shot for brainwashing this countries youth.
You are an extremist, just like the terrorists in the Middle East, because you want to kill people who have different views. You're radicalized and unable to have a rational conversation. You're what's wrong with your country, and anybody who isn't extremist, conservative or progressive, would agree.
Generally pretty much anyone who is able to think agrees with you here, niamh. Its funny how the one talking about a supposed "extreme leftist narrative" is using the word brainwashed.
Claiming that Jon Stewart is brainwashing people by saying stuff you dont want to hear because it doesnt fit your worldview is kinda ironic, John, considering where your worldview comes from. One look at your profile and the stuff you watch (Lauren Southern, really? Holy shit you are beyond saving) shows us everything we need to know.
+john allen Who the hell are you talking to? Nothing you just said is a an actual reply to any of the comments above. You're just talking to yourself. I suggest a safe space where you can talk to fellow extremists whose opinion on anything in life nobody wanted to hear: /r/the_donald
John Allen has just learned more Truth about EVERYONE in hollywood than the rest of you clearly. I'm sure much of his frustration comes from having to speak to people who are sleeping through their life and think their opinions are just as valid as his. No offense, but if you are still a part of the sleeping hive-mind narrative then you should sit back and listen a little more. If you don't realize for a fact that over 95% of individuals in hollywood are broken beyond repair then you are in for a rude awakening.
PIERS TAPPED HIS PHONE THAT’S HOW HE KNEW
Wtf Piers Morgan? I can not stand tv hosts who just talk over their guests the whole time and constantly interject these stupid run-on questions. Makes me wonder why the hell he invited a celebrity on his show if he was just going to drown them out with his own bs interruptions the whole time..
I like Seth, but my love of Jon is above any other celebrity. So, I'm gonna have to choose my side.
***** I'm a bigger of Jon too but that doesnt make him right. Of, course, we don't know the whole story but it appears at this point insanely hipocritical and ego-driven to call up Seth. Seth even conceded that the joke itself was too far, but stood by his stand point.
If you had actually seen the skit, it was basically Seth calling the writers assholes and Jon who was a big time supporter of the writer strike. Seth's argument: Writers earn 100-200k a year and should be happy with that since that's much higher than the average person, they can still afford pricey cars and other junk, and everyone earns less than their boss. Jon's argument: They're part of multimillion dollar projects and their bosses earn tens of millions of dollars a year, and have the right to request more money since the projects couldn't exist without them.
You can think what you want and I've tried to leave my views out of my description of it. That being said, Seth is jokingly pompous, and less genuine than Jon in my opinion. In the same way Colbert can't let the satire routine shut down, Seth can't let his hiding behind one-sided hyperbole routine shut down. So, I find them both annoying outside of their shows, but brilliant in them. Jon I just find brilliant virtually every time I see him.
On a separate note though, I can't blame Seth on this show since it was forced out of him - Everyone has differing views, so why make a big deal out of it Piers? Oh right, because his program is like 80% of other programs like it, a drama whore.
What was the dispute between Seth and Jon about? Did it have something to do with The Writer's Strike? What was the 'ill-measured" joke on Family Guy about?
Seth is amazing. Such a cool guy. Love how he smiles all the time. Super intelligent and respectful
Paul
respectful ?! ....lol, good one.
Gay.
Lies again? Major Master Problem Solving
Well well well, how about that. A measured response in relation to a disagreement, and the strength to admit ones own potential flaws. Well done Seth.
How did he know about it? Probably hacked Seth's phone
No "probably" about it....
Or seth's publicist told him
Or Seth told him beforehand so he had an excuse to bring it up and clear the air on what actually happened if anyone else did hear about it. Also it makes for a good interview. Jesus.
piers used to work of a newspaper company and he and others tapped celebrities phone
Jon would have told him probably said to bring it up
They are both friends
"How did you find out about this" he hacked your phone.
So glad this show was cancelled
If Piers Morgan is on your side, then that probably means what you're doing is wrong.
my problem with Jon Stewart is that I'm not him
whaaat
I feel this on a deep, spiritual level
lol I agree. He's an AMAZING individual. Smart AND hilarious
That's bullshit though. I do think Jon Stewart is an fantastically talented person, nobody can take that away from him. But that phonecall though? That's some ironic shit. And you do know if the situation was reversed, Stewart would have crucified Macfarlane publicly, in a heartbeat too. Be honest.
Yea Seth handle this well. He said Jon is an important voice for the rational side. I totally agree.
For fuck's sake Piers won't shut up for a second to let Seth talk.
"You're Seth MacFarlane we have to know" - Pierce "Nardwar" Morgan
I'm with Seth on this one. I just appreciate that he decided to take a moderate, self-critical stance while Piers Morgan was being a pinhead.
Maybe Piers was wiretapping again.
"how did you find out about that?" - phone tapping is not an unknown method in the UK
If anyone doesn't know, Jon Stewart said some shit about piers morgan (like "a british guy no one knows") when larry king was leaving CNN. I don't think Piers ever let it go. Piers is a lot better though than someone like Tucker C, who literally was radicalized more out of desperation for job security (due to jon stewart)
Christ Piers, why not just go ahead and play the recording of the phone call for the audience?
Dang. I clicked on here expecting to hear a line of crap from MacFarlane about Stewart. But I totally understand his point of view. He was calm, he was rational, and he didn't bring emotion into it.
I respect both men and I'm glad to see that my respect is justified.
Sounds like Seth has no problem with Jon... They just had a minor disagreement and played jokes on each other and it got blown way out of proportion. So what?
You're absolutely right - this was a minor difference of opinion that both parties (The Fine Gentlemen & Comedic Geniuses that they are) had no interest in pursuing, but that "Big Media" just had to sensationalize.
Small wonder that CNN tagged & uploaded this clip....like a spoiled child screaming for attention - their sad desperation is palpable.
"I think everyone should treat one another in a Christian manner. I will not, however, be responsible for the consequences."
What do you expect from Piers Morgan? And any cable news network for that matter
"He can dish it out but he can't take it," said the man who got up and walked off a newscast because he didn't like the way his coworkers were talking about him.
That awkward moment when ajournalist who in the past has illegally hacked people's phones starts talking to you about the details of a phone call that you hadn't made public
Hah! "did you stand your'e ground like a man?' thats quite ironic coming from a guy who doesn't go in public without an armed guard.
Jesus Christ... You ask a guy a question he starts to answer and you IMMEDIATELY interrupt him EVERY FUCKING TIME.
How did this guy EVER have a talk show???
He's sneaky. I think he's trying to get Seth on edge so he will make an impulsive statement that he doesn't want to. He knows Seth isn't going say anything unless he goads him and he seems to have no 'journalistic' integrity. Results oriented.
I like how he seen both sides. And knows where he went long, yet knows where the job is the job. He knew the right and wrong and agnolaged his, and the opposers down fall, or argument if you will. Pretty cool.
From 2:46 to 3:05...That is one of the BIGGEST pet peeves of mine. Cutting people off and not letting them get a word in.
I almost yelled "DUDE, STFU AND LET HIM TALK!" But then I remembered they can't hear me lol.
all i can hear is brian lol
All I hear is Brian Griffin
I love Seth as the Captain in "The Orville." If we ever go to war with China over Taiwan, I want Seth MacFarlane commanding our Space Fleet.
Yes, we have a Space Fleet. Don't you ever watch CNN?
Someone should have photoshopped Seth out and animated Brian in
I forgot how obnoxious Piers Morgan was. He makes my skin crawl.
Am I the only one who wantss to have a good swing at Piers?
K K Jeremy Clarkson did just that.
Seth is way too rich to be mad about anything. I think he handled this way better than Piers was expecting.
By staying on the air, Jon Stewart brought heaps of attention to the writer's strike, it was the theme of those shows. He definitely did the right thing and Seth is blind to it, to say that he should have been "out there helping us."
Seth is a writer obv, and was looking out for himself and friends, probably threw out Stewart’s name for views. You hit the nail on the head, either he’s incredibly dumb for insulting Jon in the first place then calling him out for the very thing he has been doing for ages (helping the little guy out). Or it was all a ploy, great acting and smart for garnering attention/discussion.
Seth comes across as a very mature person. Really seems like a great dude.
You have to think about it this way though. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart is the largest (or was at the time) source of news for Americans. Sure, it might be on comedy central, but one could argue that if he were to shut down his show for a writer strike, he can no longer COVER the strike. His time would be better spent reporting on the strike. Also, what if you took down an "actual" news show for the writers' strike? I think this illustrates that Stewart is in a very gray area here. I think Stewart made the right choice.
The scary thing is you are calling it news and that is the biggest problem it isn't news!
Coco Parker-Wilt No, the biggest problem is that shows like the Daily Show and The Colbert Report are the closest thing to news the US has.
Sure, there are indeed other good sources as well, but many of them of foreign nature, like RT. (Although RT in the US is its own company of course)
This however is not to say that that makes everything all fair and square, I'm merely commenting on how much the DS is in fact news or at least an extremely important addition to whatever you pick as your news source of the big networks.
AlexChama So true.
My issue wasn't about the strike in anyway or who covered what..my issue is calling it news in anyway. Does Bill Maher's show get labeled as news? No a talk show with comedy talking about news events. Not news in any way
Oh absolutely! I'm just saying, that you'd better get news from them, albeit a talkshow, than from say FAUX.
But as in what category BM, JS and SC should be put, indeed that'd not be news.
LMAO! The idea that Piers Morgan could affect a takedown of John Stewart! Oh, that's damn good comedy.
Seth was right, Jon Stewart was wrong. I like both of them. This is a completely unbiased opinion.
I don't know if I'm putting much thought into this but I did feel a little bit alarmed when Seth asked Piers how he knew his info.
The difference between a comedian and an asshole is that a comedian can laugh about jokes at his own expense.
Calling Piers "THEE MOST deep digging journalist" should be a felony in any country!