1969 Charger 500 - 426 Hemi - vintage road test
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- MuscleCarFilms.com/ for more info! This is a vintage road test of one of the rarest, fastest, and today one of the most valuable of all of the classic Mopars; the 1969 Dodge Charger 500, with the 426 Hemi engine.
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Absolutely priceless! I grew up with these cars (Never owned a hemi, I drove a 70 Torino Cobra SCJ 4 speed) and hemi's were VERY highly respected along with 427 Chevy's etc. Well tuned cars that were well driven on slicks were terrors in our local street race scene. it's a lot of fun watching one being put through it's paces in stock form.
"And if that doesn't excite you, you better check your pulse." I love vintage clips. They though they were so clever!
"If that doesn't excite you, you better check your pulse." "More spins than a Las Vegas roulette table." That's good!
' he hit 60 in 6.9 seconds, and that's fast enough to wipe the stripes off!' XD
"This is one of the quickest ways I know of to do your things."
Bud Lindeman is classic play by play
I have to admit that all three biggies had some pretty cool muscle cars, but as a kid in the sixties I always got real excited around Road Runners and Chargers! And I'm a Ford guy!
I had a '69 in the '70s and knew about the 500, from the flat grille and headlights to the rearglass 'tunnel' being erased.
Nice bit of history here.
I had a red one with the Hemi from 79-81. I had no idea what a 500 was. I thought it didn't have hideaways because it was some cheap stripped model or something. I bought it because it had a big engine and huge rear tires. It really was pretty beat though. I think I found out that the 500 was special in the 90's. I knew someone with a 71 charger 500 and it actually was a stripped 318 nothing car
This is an awesome old clip to find.. The 500 grille & rear window absolutely killed the looks of the Charger, but it's still a HEMI Charger being thumped on in 1969!
Even though the ‘69 Charger Daytona was more successful than the ‘69 Charger 500, the 500 has its own charm to itself.
They stole the grill out of the coronet 68 I believe. Cause it was more flush mounted. The recessed charger grill was causing lift in the front, and the back tunnel window caused lift also.
I'm like you tho. Standard charger grill and back window 68-70 chargers is in my opinion the best looking car ever made, from every angle. First car I every remember riding in was my dad's 70 charger 500. The 70 500 nit same as 69. Doesn't have the flush back window. I prefer the 68 over all of them tho. I love the round taillights and how the did the backup lights, and the clean 68 grill amd round marker lights.
I love that car, but the Hemi's were not daily driver material. Out on the highway they were fine, but in city traffic on a warm to hot day, they would overheat and load up the plugs. The 440 was better suited for a daily.
Shut the fuck up!!! You have never owned a hemi so stop your bullshit.
@@springwoodslasher79 He is right and you better know enough to keep one in tune . Most people don't . I worked on them and they need special attention just like a L88 or 427 Ford they all eat spark plugs , need the valves adjusted somebody that can set dual points and make sure the carb or carbs are working right . Unless you don't want it to run at it's best . Even a 440 six pack needs a good tuner .
Pretty much any big block muscle car with a solid lifter cam needs periodic valve adjustments and things like that to keep them running right. The 440 was a much better engine for everyday street use...and the 440 +6 was practically just as fast as a Hemi but way cheaper and way more manageable to drive every day
@@jeremythompson9895 That's true. I saw an article in a magazine once that talked about the best balanced musclecars (engines, brakes, tires, transmissions, etc.) and it said the same thing. The highest horsepower engines were seldom recommended. As the article put it, "they drank gas, ate spark plugs like candy, and required more tuning than a Kmart radio."
Thanks for the info.i like to own one if got the opportunity and money.
All the catchphrases of a 1970s TV detective. Great post.
7MPG. Now that's how you know this is a real car.
Damn right! Those everyday commuters will be assholes and use their hybrids with toaster oven engines, while real men drive big heavy cars with big V8s! Also I like how the guy said why did they put the glove compartment in the back! Lol that guy would see today's hatchbacks and say why did they smash the trunk?
haha right.
It's not about miles per gallon, it's about smiles per mile ;)
Kartking4e Eric Dodge demon with 840hp and the New Dodge Charger hellcats with 707hp Are beast.
@@chargermaster586
That they are.
The Hellcat is much faster. After 50 years it better be but it is.it breaks and turns better ofcourse as well.
Some people like me, im 53, i drive daily ( except winter) a 69 440 6 bbl Road Runner and a 1970 RT/SE 440 CHARGER. BOTH IN ABSOLUTE MINT CONDITION. BOTH HAD THEIR ORIGINAL NUMBERS MATCHING EMGINES TAKEN OUT AND STORED WHEN I WAS 19.
THE CHARGER RT/SE ENGINE HAS 9,126 MILES.
THE ROAD RUNNER 6 BBL HAS 5, 877 MILES ON IT.
I COULD SELL ONE OF THESE ALL NUMBERS MATCHING AND BUY ME A BRAND NEW HELLCAT OR RED EYE AND I THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT IT TOO. TOOK THE HELLCAT FOR A RIDE 3 STRAIGHT YEARS. 2 CHARGERS AND 1 CHALLENGER. TOOK THE RED EYE OUT 2 TIMES.
I BOUGHT THE RED EYE BUT......... I DID NOT SELL EITHER CAR. THEY WILL BOTH BE DRIVEN EVERY WEEKDAY AND BE THE ONES MOSTLY RACED.
THE 440 6 BBL IS A 6BBL BLOCK BUT ITS A VERY BUILT 440. 456 GEARS, A 727 BUILT AS STRONG AS CAN BE WITH A SHIFT KIT MY GRANDFATHER AND ME INVENTED/DESIGNED IN IT. THE THING REMINDS ME SOMEWHAT OF THE SHIFTING IN THE CAT.
LESS GEARS OFCOURSE BUT THE THING SHIFTS RIGHT ON MARK AND PUSHES YOU BACK AND CHIRPS EVERYTIME.
IT HAS 118 000 MILES ON IT WITH A FEW TRANS TUNES. IT GETS BEAT UP BUT.... CANT TELL.
LOVE THOSE TORQUFLITES.
HAS A HUGE( CANT GIVE ALL AWAY DOUBLEPUMPER) AND ALOT OF GO FAST GOODIES FROM MOPAR.
THE ENGINES IN BOTH WERE FINISHED BEING BUILT BY ME WHEN I WAS 19. I DID ANOTHER REBUILD 28 YRS LATER ON EACH.
THEY WERE RUN HARD A 1/4 AT A TIME WITH ABOUT 20 1 MILE RUNS THERE TOO.
THEY ALSO DID NOT GET TO SLOW DOWN ON THE STREET MUCH.
UNTIL THE LAST FEW YEARS A LITTLE MAYBE.
I WILL NEVER SELL THEM AND I WILL KEEP THE RED EYE AS WELL.
I OWN A 6 BAY GARAGE AND 2 PIT BAYS FOR EASY OIL CHANGES AND FOR SOME CARS TO PULL TRANNYS OUT, REPLACE Difs, etc. Behind the garge i had a much smaller but big enough machine shop and a large bay to build customers race engines.
Mostly HEMIs, 440 6 bbls or 440s and 340 6 bbls and 340 stoplight screamers. I got lucky and built a 426 max wedge, a 413, 4, 360's
Atleast 3, 318s. Yea i know but i was getting 450 HP out of them before i believe car craft did.
1 of the 318s was a stock build, the other 2???
475HP AND 460HP.
I have built a few fords. A 428, a 427, 2 351 C and 4 5.0s.
3 GENERAL MISTAKES ERRRR MOTORS.
2 454s ls6 engines and a vette 327.
The mopars?? I believe 58 total.
I KNOW I HAVE BUILT 6, 426 HEMIs 3 of the OLD 392 HEMIs and a heck of alot 440 and 340 6 bbls/packs whether you had a plymouth or dodge.
The 340s if they are all in the log were from 365 hp to 550.
The 440s were from 420- 590.
Yes that 340 duster with a actually a 545 HP 340 was a NASTY CAR
THERE WERE VERY FEW AND I ABSOLUTELY MEAN VERY FEW BBs that it lost too.
It has beaten 440s. 454s, 427s 455s 389 tri power goats, 400 ram airs built 383s and those are what i remember and the 3 pictures with drag slips pn them hanging in the office.
Great video! Every time I watch a test like this I always wonder how much better these cars would be if someone could have put some proper wheels/tires on them.
That body roll is serious.
Mopar or Nocar baby, YEAH!!!
Back in the late '70s or so, Richard Petty was interviewed by one of the car magazines of the day and he spoke on the smaller engines they were using vs. the Hemi: "Horsepower is what uses the gas, not high RPM on a small engine. The 426s flat used up the gas!"
True that.
Trying to get 425+ hp to the ground with 14" skinny tires and a primitive suspension will prove to be an exercise in futility - albeit a fun one.
+1VaDude More like 490... the 425 figure was for insurance pourposes...
He did say 425+. My 68 Coronet dyno'ed at 505HP bone stock. With headers it went up to 530. All these cars really needed were good gears and headers. A good intake helped a lot too. The 427 Vettes were pretty hard to catch, but it often depended on the driver and the rear gears.
The 425 HP rating was a GROSS rating.
Actual power at the rear wheels was in the 315 HP range:
www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-9912-hemi-vs-viper-roadtest/
I'll also note that unlike 0 - 60 times and ET, trap speed varies little with off the line traction variables. The absolute best case trap speed for this Charger in 100% production line stock state (but fitted with the tires of your choice) is 106 MPH. 101 - 103 MPH would be more "real world."
Just not fast by today's standards.
Still Awesome! We have lots of people not realize that our concours restored Charger 500 is perfectly correct. Many people haven't seen one before. They can win a 440 in our current Charger Dream Giveaway. Love this- burnout!
"...the parking lot attendants would move it every 5 minutes just for the fun of starting it!" LOL
That recessed rear window may have increased drag (at way up over 100 mph), but it certainly looked great on the Chargers.
The trick with those old bias ply Fiberglass belted tires was to run the air pressure way up. 32 psi was their max rated pressure, but to really make them work required upping the pressure to 40+ psi. (some racers used to run them as high as 60 psi!!!) They were an incredible piece of engineering actually. A "Tune-Able" tire. Muscle Car Review magazine did a tire comparison with several DOT drag tires and a pair of drag slicks. One of the "Old Timers" suggested taking a pair of Fiberglass belted tires along just to show what these cars were using when they were new. After all the testing was done they threw the bias ply PG tires on, and at door sticker pressures they did exactly what everyone figured they'd do. Then the "Old Guy" told them to try them with the pressure jacked up the way they did it back in the day. They were using a GTO Judge with a 400 and a 4 speed. When the driver launched the car it bogged bad. So they tried it again, at a higher launch rpm. It still bogged. When they finally found the limit it was launching at 4000 rpm. On par with the drag slicks they had just tested. Albeit there was a problem in that the bias ply tires had no "Give" in the sidewall making any hard launch extremely hard on u-joints and clutches, so 4 speed cars had to exercise care on the launch, but automatic cars could take full advantage of the PG tires tune-ability and were able to greatly improve standing start acceleration as well as cornering ability back in the day, IF you knew how to "Tune" your tires. F.A.S.T. competitors are well aware of the air pressure aspect of bias ply Polyglass belted tires capabilities. That's one reason they are running into the single digits on those "crappy" old bias plies...
That's some great info there. Thanks for posting it.
My dad was a dodge salesman for dodge in the 60s and 70s! I never knew what car he would come home with! Dart GT, Hemis,Challenger TA
Charlie, my dad also, Scranton Dodge. It was great being a kid then....
those cast wheels are SUUUUPER rare. They were recalled literally days after they were released. if you have a set, you just won the lottery !
State of the art suspension! Man have we come a long way.......
one of my dream cars. 1969 Hemi Charger
Justin Myslive next to a hellcat.
this video sound like those old videos you had to watch in school great vid
Your Right just as the big block 454 had over 500 as well. Truthfully all the high performance engines from the big three where had under rated horsepower because insurance companies looked at the ratings
I love that these guys only seem to test panther pink cars. Also the vintage lingo is the balls! Sweet video!
You can put your rear end anywhere you want it
426 was really a beast at high RPM. It could walk most cars down on top end.
But imagine the 426 HEMI with additional *twin-turbochargers* !
I wish more people would go out and enjoy the cars like this now a days instead of being trailer queens
With the prices of these old muscle cars, not many people can...
You would regularly drive a 1969 Hemi Charger on public streets running errands on a regular basis?
There are probably a few dozen of these cars left on the entire planet.
scdevon If I was given the opportunity I probably would. And I realise all of the difficulties with this.
scdevon b i still own my 1969 dodge charger rt i bought in 1976 i still drive time to time
Ron Your overpaying for a car that's falling apart with the money that people are asking for it you can buy a new 840hp Dodge demon or a dodge hellcat.
Precision through the corners, no body roll, fantastic brakes etc.
Well that's the cars we drive today which makes these old muscle cars great to watch on the track.
gotta love these vintage road tests.
These cars were new when filmed.
' body roll is not excessive' back in that day it was :)
Some years back Muscle car Review did a tire test with a 1969 GTO Judge 400 4 speed. They were testing contempory tires I.E. radials both street and DOT as well as wrinkle wall slicks. And at the end they also tested a set of Poly Glass repops. The 400 was able to get wheel spin out of all of them. Then an "Old Guy" explained about tuning the Poly Glass tires by over inflating them. They tried it. The 400 bogged bad out of the hole so they raised the launch rpm to 4000! It hooked! SUPER TIRES!
In '68 I managed to crank an unattended Hemi Road Runner in a small showroom in Mississippi. There were no sales people around until that thing fired off and then they were everywhere.. My buddy and I were told in no uncertain terms to get out and stay out! It was fun while it lasted.
I remember the 60's well. It is amazing how bad the tires were. The technology of the day was bias belted tires. The sidewalls were stiff and they had hardly any rubber on the road. In fact, the NHRA limited tires, even slicks for the stock classes to 7 inches wide. I watched a test on the 68 Hurst Olds. It was a second faster 0-60 and about a second faster through the quarter. All this because neither could get traction. I loved the 7 mpg. They got about 12 on the highway if you kept your foot out of it. Back then we didn't care. Ethyl (premium) was less than 40 cents a gallon.
+C moore Actually the bias-ply tires grip pretty good on a launch, but cornering is another story
They still don't compare to radials. The stiff side wall allows for no flex.
C moore In the pure stock drags, the bias-ply tires are quicker in the 1/4 mile...but on corners, they don't handle well
amen to that. good ol days,wish I would have came up then.
+C moore When I got my license in 1971-1972 gas was 35-37 cents a gallon for regular seemed every kid/guy working at a gas station had a hot car. I moved from NY to MA in 74 and built a 67 Camaro RS Yenko clone, 427/425 with 456 gears and a 4 speed, about a year r so after that the 1st 'gas stortage' hit and people were convinced that in 20 years we wouldn't have anymore gas. I used to street race my Camaro when I borrowed my buddies slicks all cars were in the mirror. Drove it up to New England dragway in Epping NH on Wed/grudge night and with some slicks got right into the 12's at 108 -110. You know its funny that the times of old cars like a Hemi Charger or anything were a good run if you got a low 14 or even into the 13's. New Camaro with 455 hp runs 12.5 at 115 with the manual, the guy I borrowed the slicks from used to race and he told me if I had a 800-850 holley DP instead of that junk 780 and a better intake I should be running 12.4 or better. Amazing how far we have come with technology, now you run mid 12's and still do 155 mph and cruise all day on the highway but yeah still respect the sound of the solid lifter cam and headers
Still almost can smell the rubber burning.😁Nice video thanks for sharing.👍
Actually, they did. Shoulder harnesses first appeared in 1968, but you had to attach them to the seat belts each time that you used them. Few people used them until they made it mandatory that that they were secured to the seat belts in 1974. You can see it clearly hanging down behind the driver at 5:40 in this video. When not in use they were stored with a clip on the roof parallel to the top of the window. This is why you don't see the one on the passenger side hanging down.
True. I have a '70 Boss 302 Mustang, which was officially rated at 290 hp. I put it on a dyno one time back in the late '70's and they measured it at 345 hp at the rear wheels, with one flaky spark plug wire.
Thats modified engine, at stock it would only have 120 whp
That thing is almost scrubbing off the whitewalls in the turns...yipes!
The mans commentary is legendary!!
Love the vintage road testing to see that big car being beat on is awesome.
Named in honor of the Daytona 500. The 2nd gen Hemi was legendary on the NASCAR circuit from the moment Chrysler introduced it - so legendary that it was banned from competition, after much crying from the GM and Ford boys.
NOPE!!! It was Bill France that put a stop to it when he seen the KING COBRA TORINO test. The FORDS were TOO fast. That's what happened. The 429 BOSS was the REAL killer!!! And GM was the first to die!!!!!!!
@@eugeneschulte4950 Don't for the almighty 427 SOHC 2V Cammer V8 as well that demolished the 426 Hemi on the race track in Nascar.
I like the impression of the neutral drops for the acceleration runs.
Or were they?
The way the tires burned instantly it’s suspect of a neutral drop 😂
With sand and marbles all over the track, surprised he kept it off the grass.
I got me one of thoes but its not all original. It just got sanded down and where touchin up on some things and just got my door rubbers today. Man she runs nice not street ready yet but its comming. Great vid
Wow; great video macca!
Tires or lack of held these cars back so much. Can't explain, had to be there.
I learned first hand how much tires heled these cars up when an old challenger 340 blew the doors off my modified starion. only upgrades were a nice tuneup and wide rear tires.
+C moore I'm pretty sure the owner figured that out and I learned not to trust those old 0-60 times or hp figures.
but try telling me this in 04 when that happened lol. h
I had a friend inmy senior year of high school that got a 67 Plymouth GTX with a hemi and an automatic. When it got in, he was really disappointed. The timing was so retarded that when you nailed it, there was a hesitation. He took it to a guy that ran a top fuel car and he put it on a dyno. It was only putting out a little over 200 hporsepower at the rear wheels. After changing the distributor to a mallory,and setting the timing and dwell the way it should be, it was a different car. It had so much torque that you could nail it at 30 mph and it would try and get sideways. Granted, it had little G70x14's but the point is that it was a completely different car.
The muscle cars of the 60's all ran on bias ply tires. Most were actually 2 ply from the factory. It was possible if you tried really hard to burn up a set of rear tires in a thousand miles. One of the things that gave the cars even more appearance of speed was the lack of traction.
C moore whats your point when you say "the tires gave these cars the apperance of speed"?
Because they are still fast ass cars by today's standards and here we are 50 years later 😏
0-60 in 6.9 seconds while laying black lines halfway down the track, LOL!
The tires (and often the pavement) were absolute garbage compared to 2017
They got 5.3 seconds to 60 in the '68 Hurst Olds Cutlass...
That is about as quick as the Northstar engine in the Cadillac. Not bad for 1969.
I think it was because of the tire spin in the Dodge.
Car and driver magazine road test a 1968 HEMI 4 speed as follows 0-60 = 4..2 s ,1/4 Mile = 13.8s , 0-100mph =12.5s with civic Tires. If you want to list the performance, try to find standard nation wide official times, like they do for Motocycles.
Thank you very much.
Same 0 to 60 as new 8 speed 3.6 v6 Charger! Technology is a magical thing!
+Charles Marshall With that kind of wheelspin it's no wonder 0-60 was so slow. With proper traction that car could do 60 around 5 seconds flat and run the quarter around 13.5 secs, cosiderably faster than the 3.6L and about the same as the 5.7L models. The 69 sounds way better, though!
+Paul Hudson Don't get me wrong. I grew up with Hemi B and E bodies and they were indeed brutes. The A-12 six pack cars and any under 3,000 pound 340 A-Bodys with 3.91 or 4.10 chunks were also 13 second cars. They ran the times on junk tires which made them that much more impressive. The point I was making is that the new V-6 Chargers are marvels of great engineering. 30 MPG with great comfort, safety and power for low prices. I would love to see a baby Ram truck that would weigh no more than 3,300 pounds with a normally aspirated 3.6 making about 325 HP coupled to an 8 speed auto with big brakes and coil springs on all 4 corners. A modern Duster in pickup dress.
+Charles Marshall OK; I understand. I also think it's interesting that the 5.7L Charger is about as fast as the '69 but it can get 25-27 mpg while still weighing over 2 tons. And you are right - compared to today the tires then were horrendous. It took guts to drive those cars like that with no traction control.
My biggest desire these days is a V8, RWD 4-door with a manual trans that is not loaded like the Chevrolet SS. I can afford a $45K car but I won't pay for one. I will probably get an 07 CTS-V in the next year or so - I like that no auto was offered for that version.
That was kind of intresting. I had a '69 440 charger for 23 yrs and after tweeking the supenstion a bit it was a fairly good handling car, considering it's size. I also found the mpg rating funny but you have to remeber gas was only 30-50 cents a gallon in 69. Don't think it's a pink car. the video has just degraged over the yrs. Tumbs up for this piece of history!!
23 pages of people talking about how bad "Bias Ply Tires" were. The tires on this car are F70x15 Poly Glass Red Lines. Not your average "Bias Ply" tire by a long shot. I used alot of these back in the day and what nobody has talked about is how exceptional they were. This show typically inflated test cars tires to manufacturers specs (24-28psi) which was great for ride comfort and tire wear pattern. But for performance driving like they are doing here you need to inflate them to 40-60psi.
I'm almost Seasick watching that thing corner. We had a new 68 Plymouth wagon with 383. Dyno tuned by Wild Bill in Gladstone. Back in the day. The neighbors were luckier with their 442's, Buick GS, GTO's and 396 Chevelles.
There are some hot Ford and Chevrolet classics I like, but the Mopars are Numero Uno!
Soooo right karl
@bigmax88 The street Hemi was also ridiculously detuned so that it was actually a dog off the showroom flow.
But there is a reason the mopar Hemi dominates in NHRA. In the hands of a knowledgable person, 500 horses EASY from a Hemi.
The BADDEST Auto engine ever made.
***** Boss 429 was something, but wasn't the ports a bit large for the street ?
That stinking ass ls has taken over now. I use to love it before everyone caught on and I hate it now leaving like the big block Chevy! I need a new engine
Is it really. I've witnessed a stock appearing Buick GS Stage 1 455 against a stock appearing 71 hemi Cuda, it had 2 fours, factory headers, geared lower and 400 lbs lighter than the ironed manifolded GS the Hemi redlighted and the Buick still beat him, was supposed to be 2 out of 3 runs but Mopar guy put it on the trailer and quit.
John Blair thats why its the only engine used in top fuel and funny car since the 1970s. even in the late 60s the chevy and ford powered funny cars switched to hemi power because they got tired of losing races .
@@christianmotley262 stock appearing ? I know the GS's were fast , I know people who had them back in the day also , But top fuel guys were dominating everyone with the hemi , and still are , not 455 buicks , so the title of the Baddest is The Hemi . I love the 455 olds engines too , both were torque monsters . I wish the aftermarket would have treated all engines equal instead of just making stuff cheap for chevies . We have mopars and a Sonoma sbc build and it's sickening to see the price difference in parts for each . They say they sell more chevy parts , so they are cheaper ! Well , lower your price on B.O.P. ,Ford , and Mopar parts to the chevy price and watch what happens to sales for those parts , they would not be able to keep up with the demand .
I believe the 68-70 Mopile midsize cars were the best looking of the Chrysler midsizes and were a really good solid great handling,and nice driving car, with a great choice of engines,axles,and tranmissions.
These films are great. Thank you for posting.
Jack Trombey's Eye for an eye plays in the intro.
All 426 Hemi engines had dual 4-barrel carburetors from the factory, including the one in this Charger 500.
I wonder if that car survived. Could you imagine owning it? Charger 500, red with white stripe, black interior, power windows, auto with console shift, clock with no tach. How many were made exactly like that. Probably one. Owning that very car would be the coolest thing.
Damn, I wonder what times that thing would have put down with a set of modern day tires and a real good driver.
the fact the driver did not have that hulk flying thru the weeds when he was pushing it thru the corners is nothing short of amazing to me.
With the simple addition of modern tires it would surprise you how much faster this would be. Then suspension upgrades...
Kids that's what we call "body roll" the Achilles heel of any muscle car built during those years
We must account for the fact the tires back then are incomparable to the tires we have today.
With better traction, you can easily harness the full power of the HEMI!!!
Also on a side note: It sounds exactly like the charger from Bullitt.
Not the best test for a car that was designed for High bank oval track racing and top end. But it is fun watching this driver hammering on this beast. Considering they didn't use the tire pressure tricks others knew about back then, it still did a pretty good job of haulin ass around that track.
It's great to see vintage muscle cars being thrown around recklessly. Most people have no clue how much fun these cars were to drive. Today's cars may have superior performance, but you can't toss them around as easily as with these older cars. There are too many nanny controls to get around.
These cars weren't so much as toss, more like they crabbed around.
Look Closer - The clock is IN the tach. Hipsters used to call it the Tick-Tock Tach.
The clock is in the center, while an outer ring surrounding the clock is the tach. AMC, Oldsmobile, Buick - many corporations used a similar setup.
The redline is easily visible in the video.
What the Dogde Boys forgot to tell you here is Steve McQueen had a little difficulties trying to keep up with the '68 Charger during the "Bullit" chase scenes in his 1968 390 Mustang GT.
True. They used Sears Point racetrack for tuning sessions and the Charger was all over the Mustang. To compensate they beefed up the Mustang's suspension and fitted the skinniest tires they could find to the stock 440 Charger. The engine/exhaust sound for McQueen's Mustang was actually from a Ford GT40.
That's because they discovered what a dog the Mustang was during shakedown tests at Sears Point race track and extensively modified the suspension and powertrain. They left the Dodge stock and fitted the skinniest tires they could find.
phambo101 i heard that the stunt driver in the charger had to slow down a little so Steve. Could catch up that Charger in Bullet can smoke that mustang.
The Charger in this video was in raw "off the Dealers lot" form. Strange as it may seem these cars were not "Tuned" for performance from the dealer. It is one of 392 "500's" built to qualify for competition in NASCAR and USAC racing. Most of these cars had the 440 Magnum this one is one of the few with the Hemi. It was considered a "Super Car" which is beyond muscle car performance levels. But it was probably the heaviest at over 4000lbs curb weight. Fat yes. But still faster than you!
7 mpg! Lol my kenworth gets that now.
7177, Or a 32 ft RV
Yeah, but I doubt your Kenworth is as much fun to drive.
My Camry is a second faster to 60 and gets over 30 mpg
"recovery from a drift" the Dodge Charger was sideways before drifting was "cool" and before the first GT-R's rolled off the showroom in Japan
It really needs 17" 250 size rubber to make THAT perfect full power drift even bunta fujiwara can't even dream of.AWESOME CAR
Notice how the guys' voice sounds like the old NFL films. Nobody sounds like that today!!
Heres part of the write up but the actual sheet is posted! Note the maximum horsepower on this dyno run - 433.5 hp (that's 463 corrected horsepower!), 405 lb-ft of torque at 6,000 rpm. Max torque was a whopping 472 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm with 336lbs of load (also max load; corrected). So when did it reach 425 horsepower, its rated level? If you use the corrected figures, it had passed 425 horses at 5,200 rpm! That would make 370 hp at the tire with standard 20% hp loss thru the drive train
Supercar?... Yes.
U notice how loose sand just happens to be not spreaded on purpose at key places to not help the car into a drift and not alleviate ugly understeer ?
You're talking about "Palerider66". He actually hit 140+ several times and the engine wasn't "Topped out" at that point. The rear axle ratio was 3.23 which is a compromise gear not a top end gear. Car and Driver tested a '69 Hemi Charger back when these cars were new. The car clocked over 166mph several times with a 3.54 gear and a 4 speed. With more road they could have gone faster. That was without the "Coronet grille and the "Aero" rear window and on the so-called crappy bias ply tires.
It is so funny to see where technology was then and now. As the owner of a 1962 Impala SS 409, I can tell you that it isn't that "fast" but the floaty suspension, raw sounding 409 and the not so direct steering make you feel like you are running 11's in the quarter every time.
Daniel Tubbs i mean fast or not its a beauty and we all have to go 30mph 70mph on highway maxs.
The new performance cars might be faster but they are nowhere near as fun to drive as a beast like this 69 Hemi Charger was. There was no traction control or any of that shit back in those days to help keep it between the ditches. Just you and the car
The ultimate American muscle car.
Awesome, though the 70 Chevelle SS 454 is definitely the King of the muscle cars mate.
"I think it was going 45 m.p.h. when we left the line but the clock said 4 seconds flat." This is one of my all time favorite vintage road tests, Bud Lindemann is classic cool. Btw,@3:43 is that tire bald already?
+Schön i hear ya! .. just perfect*****
That's with rock hard bias ply tires, now put slicks on it and see a big difference. Or today's drag radials
I can imagine that those tires limit the car quite a bit... But then again, boiling the hides at whim while hearing the elephant sucking down air is a pleasant quality in a car :-)
@boltonox If you mean the way the front looks..this is the 500 model. It looks like that.
Heres part of the write up but the actual sheet is posted! Note the maximum horsepower on this dyno run - 433.5 hp (that's 463 corrected horsepower!), 405 lb-ft of torque at 6,000 rpm. Max torque was a whopping 472 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm with 336lbs of load (also max load; corrected). So when did it reach 425 horsepower, its rated level? If you use the corrected figures, it had passed 425 horses at 5,200 rpm!
Heck of a launch technique...
Scary to watch that thing run around that road course
Wish someone would do a road test with a Charger Hellcat like this 707hp and 650 pound feet of torque is no joke.
Do you have any idea where the "track" was that they utilized for testing on this show. It does not look like any road course that was actually used for racing.
Love the neutral dumps lol
Who wouldn't accelerate a permanent smile on their face with 425hp under their right foot and a TorqueFlite in their right hand?
WOW..........puts 2015 in a whole new light, 707!!!
01REDEYEDDEVIL Not really. Throw a supercharger on this and give it the same tires as the Hellcat - this dinosaur would be right there.
Ahh the good old days!
14.1 second quarter mile.Man cars have come a long way.
I remember this show from speed channel!
i'm not a big mopar fan however those are some damn cool lookin' wheels...
I wonder how the 0-60 times would be on modern tires and modern asphalt!
ChevyBM Yeah,or put some of those tires on a Hellcat or any of the other 11 second cars of today. lol.
NOW THATS A TEST DRIVE
Yes, and that's fine, I read all the new road tests too. I was just pointing out that there were many of the period tests of stock Hemi cars that were much faster than this test. I have pretty much all of them in my library. Your Camrys are, amazingly enough in the 14s @ mid 90s these days. But there are no Camry's or Avalons that run 13.20 @ 107 stock. Hemi cars that did.
This should’ve been used in a lot of car chase scenes back then!!
now this is a road test