Altra Escalante 2.0 After 100 Miles
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2020
- It's taken me a while to get around to reviewing an Altra shoe, but I'm very glad I finally did. In many ways, it was not what I was expecting at all, and I was continually surprised at just how good of a daily trainer this shoe was. First, I will point out that it's not a minimalist shoe. There's 24mm of stack height throughout the shoe. And it's a very good midsole material.
The main thing I was concerned about was the transition to zero drop. But, in my personal experience, I didn't have any issue with it at all. My body really notices the difference in the first half mile or so of the run, but after that, while it does feel different than a 10mm drop shoe, it's not an issue.
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I just crossed 500 miles on my escalante 2s and theyre still holding up, continuing to take them on runs
Literally just was thinking of buying this shoe, thank you for your thoughts!
Altra Torin 4 review would be interesting. Great video as always
Man, I really enjoyed the music on this review!! Great review, as always!!
Thanks for the review! I was thinking about ordering a pair to try since they were on sale and your review convinced me. Got them yesterday and did 13.1 in them today. They felt super, better than the squishy feel of the Torin Plush I have in the rotation.
Thanks for the review. One of my favorites to run in and I feel like I can go fast in these, use them for track workouts. Agree with your comment about hills, really feel the calf/achilles stretch going up and a bit unsettling coming down. Still want to try the Racer version.
Great review as usual Kofuzi! I am going all in for Altra now after having tried them years ago and not really working out for me at that time. I bought the Superior 4.5 which turns out to have less stack then what I need but have been using them for casual use to get used to zero drop. I subsequently bought the Timp 2 (which I think you would love) and so far that is working very well! Plan to get the Torin 4 based on that experience and looking to get the Escalante 2 (on sale) for casual use as well. I am getting to the point where I don’t want to wear anything but zero drop! I am becoming a believer very quickly.
My favorite shoe this year by far
I started a curiosity adventure with Altra and I am totally sold now. Rotation includes Torin 4.0 (not plush), Escalante 2.0, Timp 2.0 and Superior 4.0 and no complaints 😎
I do also like Altras much. started with Escalante, Lone Peak and now Torin and Superior. My only issue is that the midsole is wearing out fast and I don't get more than 500km/300mi out of the shoes. I am 75kg and mid-foot/fore-foot runner.
How are the Torins for longer runs? I've had the Escalante 2.0 and now I'm interested in an Altra for longer runs, like 15 miles.
@Matt Ball…I am a believer now too, and couldn’t agree more about the Torin 4 vs plush…keep buying the plushes online bc they’re cheaper, but the regulars are worth the cost. What terrain is best for Timp and Superior?
@@shannonsides6017 I got the escalante and the timp i mostly choose these cause of a wide toe box, i run mostly in the timp cause of trail running. But they are really my go to shoe now, they feel great they a light and you just feel the road so i highly recommend them for anyone out there.
Altra Escalante 2.0 was my first Altra 0d shoe as well. I've been enjoying it for the easy/steady paces as well. I find it gives a good work out on the legs/calves, and probably helps strengthen the legs/joints. I plan to mix it into the rotation going forward.
What I love about this review is there is no comparison to the 1 or 1.5! I have heard so many negative things about these shoes and it's good to hear some positive things from an experienced runner who has not previously ran in Altras! I may pick up a pair!
I come in with a blank slate, for better or worse. But I agree that there is a lot of contrasting going on in against the prior versions
Full respect for always going to 100mi on your full reviews- have you ever been tempted to lower the threshold so you can go through more shoes?
Nice review! For me the Escalante are for tempo and steady runs. My last road altras were the Instinct with a similar feeling
Great review! I snagged a pair of escalante 2.0 for $65 and looking forward to what the zero drop world is like
I think with the 2.5 coming out very soon, a lot of places are deep discounting them. It’s a win win.
Just ordered the the escalante racer. Way too excited.
The biggest downside of Escalante is that they last for so long and give me no excuses to buy a new pair of shoes :( A bit under 1000 miles and no signs of wear
Well, I love zero drop... I have a pair of Solstice... but they are almost dead after under one year..... I run a few times a week.....but I got them in Feb' so....not too long. I guess it depends on the model. i have just ordered these....
Agree, I've 800KM with the 2.0, no major damage. Have to donate to old shoe re-cycling program
I have Escalante2.5 for work as fedex driver. It’s like a sock, similar to free runs but way more supportive and comfy. I haven’t thought about wearing them for running yet for fear that it might not be thick enough in cushion for me. I’m over 200 pounds. These are my favorite walking shoes for sure. I really like that soles seem to be super strong and durable. I might convert to everything Altra once my NB 1080v11 are finished!
Great review. The shoe fits perfect us guys with wider toe box.
Have a pegasus pair sidelined due to being to narrow
ay nice shirt, good to see u guys supporting each other like that !! keep up good work mate
Thanks Oli!
Thanks Oli!
I have over 500 miles on my Altra Escalante 1’s. I still use it for runs of 6 miles or less. Love them.
May I ask why 6 miles or less? I'm looking at transitioning to zero drop shoes to minimise joint pain as I build up to half marathon distances. I usually run 3-6 miles per session. TIA!
So pumped to see this review - totally would love to see you test some more Altra shoes out - Although I think they really shine on the trails. I have heard good things about the Provision but I know that you do have some issues with even mild stability shoes so perhaps not. If you were testing some out I would check out the newer Torins when they are released (any day now) I have had a few issues with the Torin 4 (both versions) different ones with each. The other one that would be interesting to have your take on is the Escalante Racer - less soft and more responsive. If you were going to try a trail shoe I believe you would enjoy the Timp 2
I have the escalante Singapore racer version and it is a marvel for me. I just bought the Torin 4 yesterday I wonder what sort of issues you experienced in it?
@@LifeInTheLongRun There is a spot on the regular torin 4 on the medial side, kind of close to the heel where it feels like a seam , makes the midsole harder - it just hits me in the wrong spot causing a bit of annoyance and if I wear them too long, pain. In the plush I experienced some hot spots closer to the ball of my foot. was quite disappointed because I was very interested in these.
130k in the Escalante 2.0, I love them. I like Altra, I think I'll buy the Provision for my next marathon (as a heavier runner, I need more stack height for longer distances)
Altra it's just on another level. I've tried the Lone Peak 4 and 5 and now the Escalante 2.5. I was using my old LP 4 also on the road, and while they're perfect for trail running/walking, I've found that they kinda slow you down when used for road running (too much cushoning for that). The escalnte on the other hand are just perfect and fast. I was able to run 2.5 minutes faster than I usually did with the LP.
that tshirt though... seek beauty with SJD... thumbs up.
Just found you through the TH-cam rabbithole... Awesome review... My daily trainer (and race shoe) is the escalante racer... Like the escalante, but better
Helpful review, thank you. I started using the Altra Escalantes right before they stopped making them and moved to the 1.5s. I am not a big fan of the 1.5 since I find the sole stiffer and not "bouncy." It doesn't sound like the bounce is back from the original, but the flexibility and room of the upper might be (?). I have also heard that the 2.0's are a little narrow in the middle. How did you feel in these through the midfoot area?
Great Review, plan on buying that shoe. I have an Altra Paradigm pair, and they are very confortable.
The Foot shape helps guys like me that have a wider toe box, not necesarily wide feet. It makes Altras (I only have tried the Paradigm as of yet) very confortable.
I have a pair of nike pegasus, but those I had to stop using, since they cramp my toes, as for me its a very narrow shoe on the toe box.
I have Altra Kayenta and purchased Altra Torin 4 Plush just waiting if I see them ever arrive. I feel zero drop makes my stride lower but cadence gets automatically higher.
Love my Altra shoes. Very comfy. Only drawback is the last of sole. Not very durable and I've run under 100 miles in them.
Like the shirt, bud! 👍🏻
Quality shoe review....I also brought some of Seth’s merch....a running vest👍
Does sjd have running hats
As someone who is prone to blisters the fit in these is downright revelatory. I’m 200 miles in and haven’t felt any rubbing. Really want to try the racer version
I started with the Singapore racer version and no issues. Good responsive and quick on steep hill roads. I enjoyed it so much that I use it on my long runs 20Km. And I bought the Torin 4 yesterday to add to my rotation. I plan to get the escalante 2 to be my daily trainer. 💯👍
I used the racers for over 600 miles and they held up well for a racing shoe
Altra has been in the back of my mind for a while and it would be an interesting choice to introduce into my shoe rotation. Escalante or Timp for trails are the ones which caught my attention. Good to hear your thoughts on them, as I normally run between 5-8mm drop shoes
It’s a brand that frequently gets overlooked
Kofuzi, the wear in the front is probably a good sign that you are using that horse-pawing motion in your mid/forefoot gait, and maybe the dirt+stones and the uphills (neither of which you encounter in Chicago) are making that visible wear difference on the sole. BTW, my coach’s wife is a shoe expert and she told me wear on the rear lateral corners is almost universal. Even if a runner lands first on their mid or forefoot, the vast majority of runners touch down at least a little on that back outer corner. And of course whatever walking we do in our running shoes has us striking there as well.
That makes sense!
Thanks!!
Wanted to have the Escalante2.0 to work but just to narrow at the back and arch for me, approx 20miles in them. Ended up getting the new Tourin Plush4.5 and they are awesome near perfect shoe
I have the 1.0s and the 2.0s
2.0s outsole is harder wearing/lasting longer then the 1.0s
2.0 midsole foam is denser/firmer than the 1.0
2.0 upper is more supportive than 1.0 but less breathable.
They’re both great tho, I should get a 1.5 eventually.
I had no problem running with these on the tread mill. But when I started running on the road, they hurt like crazy
Great review
I'd be interested to compare if the trail shoes with the Altra Ego foam feel the same?
Love the shirt! SJD!
We go back
Thanks my pair of Solstice started to fade... So, after watching this I just got these on Amazon...... Thanks man,
I hope you've been enjoying them!
@@kofuzi No, they are terrible. The uppers don't allow my foot to be secure and I changed them. I had little gound feeling and felt they were cheaply made. no for me. This model the 2.00 had many haters.
Altra TIMP for longer miles as the Lone Peak seems to be shorter distance shoe, at least for me. Looking forward to the reviews and maybe next up Hoka Speed Goat
I feel extremely meh with my pair. Escalante Racer crushes this shoe!!! (Frame of reference over 900 miles for 2020) I have had 7 pairs!!! Racer is 10000% legit! Great review. Cheers.
how much miles can you get from one pair of escalante racer?
@@tonybui9633 I have 3 pairs that I have retired and ran through mostly cooler winter to Spring months (in DFW TX area) 2 lasted to 433 miles and 1 I pushed to 550 miles. They hold up very well in my opinion.
What do you like better about the Racer?
@@bethrutland2870 its lighter 6.8oz vs 8.8oz...with minimal difference in stack height 22mm vs 24mm...better more fitted collar than the escalante 2...Super breathable upper...important for me living in DFW area in Texas...it feels less "clunky" and more responsive. Hope this helps!! Best!
I absolutely am in LOVE with the Escalante Racer! I ran 6 miles for my first run in them and didn't even realize I did that much. Also, I somehow got a PB for fastest mile (according to my Garmin)!! I was meaning to take it slow, as it is my first zero drop shoe as well but no pain and no after pain. This is why I contemplate purchasing this shoe. I'm hoping to change out every other run. I may be disappointed in these. For the current price, I'll give then a try. I just had to confirm that the racer is *THE* best!
Dude that red-winged blackbird at the end. Those cheeky bastards. One pecked me good on the head this weekend running. It’s prime nesting through mid-July. Hats help!
I’ve never had one actually make contact. But I’ve had miles and miles of escort through their airspace
@@kofuzi I've had them dive-bomb me in years past, but never full contact. I've seen more this year than ever before. I gave him a good shouting after he got my adrenaline pumping.
I’ve bought Altra Riviera last year and it was an incredible experience.
I’m going to buy the Escalante 3 today and I can’t wait to try them tomorrow for my Sunday run…
Altra should be more visible as they are so comfortable and they make running so natural…
Hope you enjoy your new shoes!
@@kofuzi Heck I did!!!
I love my 2.5's and just bought the Racers... Wow, these are aptly named and would fill in that lack of response feeling you talked about. Though they are thinner and you may not like them on runs over 10ks.
As with most shoes, as soon as I replaced the factory insoles with my preferred ones, I enjoyed my Escalante 2's.
What's your favourite insoles that you use?
Patrick Fung Dr Scholls Sport insoles. My feet are near flat and they help even everything out. By sticking with a familiar insole it helps with getting used to new shoes.
I’m surprised you can find an insole that is the same shape as the Altra insole🤔
I’ve run 2 marathons in the escalante, one in the 1.5 and the other in the 2.0. I currently have over 600 miles in my Torin 4.0s and have run multiple trail races from 50k to 100k in the lone peak 4s.
@toptrigger for my last marathon and 50k, I ran in my Torin 4s and plushes,, respectively. I have a pair of Escalante 1.5s, but my feet got sore racing in half marathons with them.....any other model you’d suggest for marathon distance or should I stick with the Torin’s..... I’ve had them from 3.0 up. Thanks!
Yo! Altra time! Lone peak, king and Torin!
You enjoying your time with nature? Must be nice to get away from the eeriness of the city at this time
I like the 1.5 and will probably get some more Escalantes but the upper isn’t very strong and my big toes wore holes in a short time.
I had 1.5s and now 2.0s. The upper in the 2s feels like it will last a lot longer. The 1.5s were like wearing slippers!
Just started running in Torrin 4's & am loving the zero drop. Only negative so far is how poor they are on wet sidewalks when trying to pick up the pace.
Aaron K. I had exactly the same experience! Plus making some turns made them slip as well. Still enjoy the shoes but a bit more careful here in the PNW.
Do you find with the zero drop shoe your calf gets built up more? helping you with a faster pace when going back to a 8mm drop shoe?
I always go back to altra ... i still use my lone peak 3.5
Wouldn't some discussion of foot/arch support, how high or pressed are the toes in the toe box, the fit vs you standard size, heel support and side to side stability be useful? These are just some thoughts.
So glad to see you had a mostly positive experience in your first Altra shoes! If your interested in something that’s a little more capable of faster paced but still built for daily training I’d point you towards the Torin 4.0, key difference between them and escalates are ‘Quantic’ foam rather than Ego foam and a more traditional mesh upper with welded overlays that provides incredible lockdown 👍🏼
Thanks for the suggestion!
hi Kofuzi, listening to you from Chicago suburbs. I was planning to purchase Altra Escalante 2.5, from your wearing these altra escalantes, did you find these run small? .. I'm hearing mixed feedback, that these run 1/2 size small. the store I'm ordering from has only online order option for this brand. kindly requesting your feedback, to see whether I should be ordering these 1/2 size larger, than what I usually wear. thanks ! happy running
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wow, first time first ever
Hey Kofuzi... I have a request. Another somewhat obscure brand i haven't seen you try or review is the NEWTON. I used to love the Newton Distance III. It's a lot like Altra in that you need excellent running mechanics to "survive" in the shoe.
Just the opposite. They correct bad running form.
There are a lot of negative reviews on the Escalante 2, so I am considering to get the Escalante racer.
I didn’t read any of the prior reviews and came in with a blank slate. What I found was a shoe that I liked.
I bought the Escalante Racer CIM/ Chicago Marathon and I am approacing 500 miles on them. I have been very happy with the shoe performance, I'm at about mile 60 on the Altra London racer that I am using for my 8 - 11 mile training runs, in a city with a lot of concrete in the parks and the streets.
I do look forward to Altra putting out the Altra Escalanter Racer that I've seen another video saying the shoe would be out May 2020.
kofuzi thanks for your reply, I got the Escalante 2 (my first Altra shoe) and their really comfy and light! I don’t know why they receive so many negative feedback, the toe box is wide.
The first escas made cornering a little sketchy for me but I love them. Keen to try the 2s
I actually thought they had good grip for a road shoe because of the forefoot. I feel like my feet can really spread out and grab the concrete or dirt well
My first race in Escalantes (version 1) had a u-turn around a cone, wow, thought I was going to fall out of the shoes. The upper was much improved in the 1.5.
Grip from the shoe is great, but my foot would slosh around in them if i cornered too aggressively.
I had that experience with cornering in the escalante racers. It's too bad because they're a fun shoe but i had to return them because of that. The Lone Peaks i've tried (4 and 4.5) and Superior 4s had me experiencing a similar issue on sidehilling. I'm thinking of trying the Escalante 2. Did you order a pair and if so what do you think?
I have a pair of lone peak 4s with ~200km on them but they're falling apart. I'll wait a bit before I try again
I love mine too
mid foot strike..💪
Would anybody have advice on goin up to a little more cushion from my merrel glove 4s?
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Wear on the front due to the hills?
Does it fit true to size or slightly bigger? I wear a 10 normally.
I didn't like them, I used and loved the Escalantes 1 and 1.5 but noticed the 2.0 are more narrow and have noticed the same with the Lone Peaks 4.0 😭 so I'm wearing the Torins now , they don't have the pop like the 1.0 and 1.5 Escalantes, 🤞 my fingers they bring they wideness back, I guess I'm going to start doing all my 100 milers in Torins 🥴!
That’s seems to be the consensus for people who have tried the prior versions
Thanks for doing this review. I've owned several pairs of escalante's, v 1, 1.5, and 2. Although the 2's are comfy as a walking shoe, I enjoy the 1 and 1.5 more for running. Unfortunately, they don't produce the 1 and 1.5's anymore, I believe. Going from the 1.5 to the 2, there was just too much weight added for my taste. I realize I'm probably in the minority on this view though. But, overall, a great shoe. I think I'm a zero-drop lifer now because of it. At least as a good healthy change-up in the running rotation. Thanks again for the review.
I agree with you. The 1 and 1.5 were a lot nicer to run in.
That's what happened with the hoka clifton
@@kaismithley7384 that's very interesting and good to know. I came to the party late with respect to Cliftons. My first Clifton's were the model 6. Thanks for the historical perspective.
@@ryanniclasen3350 thanks, I appreciate the feedback.
Your not in the minority. Matterfact, your in majority. Go look at consumers views of the 2.0 on Running Warehouse. Lots of negatives compared to the 1 and 1.5. Altra has heard the complaints I hope. Judging from the previews for the 2.5, ( I got my fingers crossed) expect that show to return to its former glory. As far as running down hill and I can only speak for the 1 and 1.5 that's when the shoe really shines. As far as Kofuzi saying the 2.0 having a sock like fit, that's a head scratcher because the main complaints from fans of the older iterations was the soft sock like fit was gone and also the added weight.
Yo Mike, what max distances did you take these to? Half marathon? 20 milers? I’m interested to try and wondering if they’d be a good long run shoe. Thanks again.
i think the longest i took them on was 17 miles or so. i think they make a great long distance shoe
kofuzi I appreciate the response, thanks a lot 👍🏻
I love mine
A very good shoe
What is the weight (and size) on yours?
Hi again so the grip and the experience is good enough on gravel/ trails
it's gotta be pretty packed and dry, but yeah. if you need something more robust, check out the lone peak. a very similar shoe, geared for trail, and can also handle a bit of pavement, if necessary.
You are a walking....errr... I mean running testament that anyone with good running mechanics can run in *any* drop running shoe. Your footstrike (and overall form and gait) have always been on point (mid-foot to forefoot), so I'm not surprised that you had zero issues with zero drop.
Herbinator_88 totally agree with you about his foot strike and why any drop works for him. Kofuzi I’ve watched form videos and for downhills you don’t really want to brake and heel strike, rather just shorten your stride! Maybe that’s why your feet hurt on the downhill Tunnel Marathon 🤷♀️ I sound like a know-it-all thru text 🙈
Still have the Escalante shoes (The First) I run the Marathon here in Greece it went great. Great shoes and after 2 years still are soft. Love them.
P.S Great Seth James DeMoor T shirt!!
*Butter on my Bread, Butter on my Bread*
That’s great durability!
Quality Shoes the Altra!
I have the escalante 1.0 and they are way too hot to run in most of the year. There is no breath-ability at all especially in the toe box. I can' t run with them.
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why would you skip to there? that's when it gets boring
Escalante 2 or Skechers Razor 3?
I’d prefer the Escalante as a daily trainer and the razor 3 as a faster day shoe
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If your Cadence is over 170...you won't notice anything!!!
No speed in a zero drop shoe compared to a shoe with a drop height. Also, you are slightly overpronating in this shoe. Given you are a neutral runner, I think they aren't stable in the slightest. I also doubt that outsole will have any traction after a few hundred miles.
people usually tell me that I'm over pronating like crazy, so the slight overpronation you note is perhaps an improvement?
Was very sceptical about the altra but, since recently a triathlon athlet told me to take a look on them and seeing now your video I will definitely give them a try.
Actually I search some daily's for 8-15k routes, do you think they are suited for such distances? In my Peg 36 I feel uncomfortable over 8k