Great video Bob. I love how specific you get when you do your videos. I think the way you have been disseminating information has and will continue to aid in the development of the bee industry worldwide. Have a great one ,and keep on keeping on. (Philbert, Jamaican)
Wow after I sent you this question I looked back at some of the comments an I saw two years ago I ask you the same question. I guess that’s what happens when I get older . Well at least I am consistent. So thanks for answering the same question two years ago . LOL . I will try to not ask this one again ( we never know tho ) LOL .
Thanks you so much for taking the time to do this review. It was a very in-depth review and as a rapidly growing honey producer, I appreciate the effort.
Thank you for specifying the pouring temperature. I was worried that it would have to be heated past 38C (100F). Enzymes die off at that temperature and the honey is 'cooked'.
Bob, I’m over the robotics/ controls at a coffee and tea facility in the south and I just would like to suggest that if you put a simple relay between a thermostat on your honey tanks to the filling machines e-stop circuit, that would stop the machines from running if it’s not the correct temperature thus eliminating the chance of burning up motors. Shouldn’t cost more than a $100 bucks.
Hello Bob on your foot pedal on your bottle filler . With the machine in auto mode do you just hit the foot pedal one time an let off to get it started ? . An I would guess on manual setting you would hold the pedal down till your bottle is filled to the correct amount ?. Thanks
Hello Bob on the foot pedal do you just hit the foot pedal to start the fill an then it turns it self off on each bottle when it is full or do you have to hold the foot pedal down till it is full an then let off when the bottle is full. I saw where there was a auto and manual switch on the control so I thought it may be both ways . ?? As always your video’s are very informative as you put much thought an detail in to everyone you do . Thanks
Hi Kathy. One tap starts it. It will go through only one fill cycle until full, even if you tap it again while it's filling. The manual button will over ride everything.
Love your input. I am based in Botswana, Africa and starting a honey bottling business. Looking at the Dadant Fill Master and really enjoy the look of it. Asking how many tonnes would you estimate you put through that machine alone in a month? This would really help our purchasing decision.
What model number is the smaller Rosedale filter you have hooked directly up to your Dadant fillmaster? Would you have preferred a different bag filter when pulling directly from a barrel?
4-12-11/P-1-500-SBN POLY. We use 400, 600 or 800 mesh filter bags depending on the need. Usually 600 or 800 when bottling from a drum (we call our honey raw).
Hello friend,we produce many kinds of filling capping labeling and other packing machines,Email : sale15@landpacking.com Whats-app/Wechat:+8618688219385.
We have seven tanks total in this room. Five are 600 gallons each and two are 300 gallons. They are heated from the bottom. If you look closely you can see the seam for the water portion about 6 inches from the bottom. If I was having them made again I would only make this part 3 or 4 inches.The hot water circulating through the bottom is from a large on demand hot water heater. Each tank has its own circulating pump and thermostat set at 95 f which is the temperature at which we bottle. The tanks were custom made to my drawings at Hud Industries in Gardena, California. www.yelp.com/biz/hud-industries-gardena They can make just about anything you want out of stainless steel.
We run it through an 800 micron filter on the way to the tanks and settle for at least one day. Minimal heat. For more info see our video "Packing Honey".
@@bobbinnie9872 Hello Bob Thanks for sharing your expertise and Videos. It is very helpful. I m buying honey from the farmers in 5 gallon buckets (12 buckets each time in my SUV.) and Strain it in Maxant water jacketed tank. Keep the thermostat on 95°F and manually bottle it. I m planning to buy a Dadant or Ez fill for bottling. Lifting barrel above the filling machine is not practical in our place. Our room size is 15'×30' with 2 exhaust fans to keep it little cooler, no AC. What machine do you suggest for me, considering temperature and the position of the barrel! This will be the first time I will pump directly from the barrel so I can't strain out other particles. Also I really don't want to buy another pump to pour it into Maxant tank to strain it, so what do suggest about straining or filtering the honey! Is there any attachment or something I can use? I would highly appreciate your advice. Thanks. Sorry for the long text.
Hi Jay. Although I have heard decent comments about the Ez Fill I can't speak to it because I've never used one and don't have enough information to form an opinion. When looking at bottling equipment you need to understand the term "flooded". Some bottling machines do best when the product source is at or above the level of the machine so it doesn't need to suck and only needs to push. This means it's "flooded". The machines in this video have different needs. The Chadam works better than the fill master as long as it's flooded but the fill master is far better at pulling honey out of a drum or bucket on the floor. It will also pull honey through the filters seen in this video by creating a good vacuum. I don't know where the Ez Fill stands on this issue but considering your situation it sounds like you need to figure that out before you buy. I understand the newer fill masters have bigger pumps and motors than the ones I have, are much better, and will pump cold honey. They also have stainless steel pumps, not plastic. Good luck with your decision.
No, we are still using these machines at times and also want to keep every thing for back up. The new line is up and running and so far has been doing great.
Bob Binnie at Blue Ridge Honey Company My friend is going to update his bottling line to an automated system. Do you have any suggestions for an automated bottler?
@@3Beehivesto300 We purchased our system, which works great, from Chadum Consultants in Indiana which was recently bought out by Apex Filling Systems. Mike Salyer who owned Chadum highly recommended Apex as a company to deal with. We have called them for advice and they were very helpful. You might give them a call. They come up on Google easily. Prepare your friend for sticker shock. This stuff isn't cheap.
They come from the factory clean and because honey is a safe food (somewhat self sterilizing) we are not required to rewash as long as our storage facility passes inspection, which it always has.
The bubbles should float to the top which can turn into a film of foam on top. If they are very fine it can take a long time to disappear. If you have a Fill Master that is introducing excessive fine bubbles it is most likely sucking air through a fitting or seal.
Our automated system was custom made by Chadum Consultants which was recently purchased by Apex Filling Systems LLC. Because it was custom it does not have a model number.
The total system which includes feed table, feed reservoir, four head filler, cap tightener, used Universal Labeler, inkjet lot code machine and receiving table cost around $78,000.00
Hello friend,we produce many kinds of filling capping labeling and other packing machines,Email : sale15@landpacking.com Whats-app/Wechat:+8618688219385.
@@ronikazhang5585 hi there . please provide me more information about the filling machine. if you have the mini one please send the catalog to viktor.maresa@gmail.com
I bought a used fillmaster for cheep. Come to find out the pump is not factory and is made of cast iron. Do you have any info on the factory pump. Dadant said they didn’t make them anymore and had to buy the stainless pump for big $... A picture of the I’d tag or owners manual. I’m just tying to find the info for the original brass pump in hope of finding one.
@@bobbinnie9872 *VERY* GOOD ON YA'LL. BEEN SUBD., FOR AWHILE AND FROM THE FIRST VID I SAW OF YOURS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT. GOOD LUCK AND HOPE YA'LL LAST ANOTHER 100 YEARS.
I have been programming robotics and other automation for years now this is what I’ve seen: When I was in the automotive industry, I helped launch machinery with 6-8 robots that would eliminate four jobs and those people were cut throat and workers were simply “units”. Now I work for a coffee and tea company that when a machine is upgraded with automation, the operators literally sit in office chairs and nod off to sleep with their machines running. That being said, it would really be left up the owner on what profit margin they want in my opinion.
We course filter to make sure there isn't anything dangerous in the honey. It's possible to have splinters if wood and small pieces of nail or wire from the comb frames in the honey. It happens only rarely but it does happen.
Great video Bob. I love how specific you get when you do your videos. I think the way you have been disseminating information has and will continue to aid in the development of the bee industry worldwide. Have a great one ,and keep on keeping on. (Philbert, Jamaican)
It’s very nice to see how clean all the equipment is, that’s something you don’t see that often in factories where drinks or food is packaged. 👍
Thanks.
Only when she picked up the foot peddle with her hands and continued working without cleaning her hands 😂
Wow after I sent you this question I looked back at some of the comments an I saw two years ago I ask you the same question. I guess that’s what happens when I get older . Well at least I am consistent. So thanks for answering the same question two years ago . LOL . I will try to not ask this one again ( we never know tho ) LOL .
No worries. I can relate. 👍
Bob! You just interrupted production!
Love the video! Excellent work 👍
Make more, keep talking
People say do more. I don't know how in the world you publish so much and do all the work you do. Thanks for the comment.
Off the cuff, slap it together, push it out lol
Thanks you so much for taking the time to do this review. It was a very in-depth review and as a rapidly growing honey producer, I appreciate the effort.
Thanks for your comment
Hi Niki. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for specifying the pouring temperature. I was worried that it would have to be heated past 38C (100F). Enzymes die off at that temperature and the honey is 'cooked'.
everything looks very clean, my respects !
Very informative! Looking forward to getting Fillmaster!
I hope this helped you decide
Impressive! Thanks for sharing!
Bob, I’m over the robotics/ controls at a coffee and tea facility in the south and I just would like to suggest that if you put a simple relay between a thermostat on your honey tanks to the filling machines e-stop circuit, that would stop the machines from running if it’s not the correct temperature thus eliminating the chance of burning up motors. Shouldn’t cost more than a $100 bucks.
Thank you for the suggestion.
Hello Bob on your foot pedal on your bottle filler . With the machine in auto mode do you just hit the foot pedal one time an let off to get it started ? . An I would guess on manual setting you would hold the pedal down till your bottle is filled to the correct amount ?. Thanks
Hello Bob on the foot pedal do you just hit the foot pedal to start the fill an then it turns it self off on each bottle when it is full or do you have to hold the foot pedal down till it is full an then let off when the bottle is full. I saw where there was a auto and manual switch on the control so I thought it may be both ways . ?? As always your video’s are very informative as you put much thought an detail in to everyone you do . Thanks
Hi Kathy. One tap starts it. It will go through only one fill cycle until full, even if you tap it again while it's filling. The manual button will over ride everything.
Me and my friends are new into bee keeping
I would love to learn more about that machine and where to get it
www.dadant.com/catalog/new-and-improved-fill-master-m006262
Love your input. I am based in Botswana, Africa and starting a honey bottling business. Looking at the Dadant Fill Master and really enjoy the look of it. Asking how many tonnes would you estimate you put through that machine alone in a month? This would really help our purchasing decision.
We can bottle two 55 gallon drums in one day with this machine. The new fillmasters are better than the one shown here.
@@bobbinnie9872 That is awesome - thank you for your input
Are you going to do a video of your new filling system anytime soon?
Yes, I'm planning too.
Do Chadam filler still make honey bottling machine!
That company was bought out by Apex. They service our equipment and have parts. I would recommend them. apexfilling.com/
What model number is the smaller Rosedale filter you have hooked directly up to your Dadant fillmaster? Would you have preferred a different bag filter when pulling directly from a barrel?
4-12-11/P-1-500-SBN POLY. We use 400, 600 or 800 mesh filter bags depending on the need. Usually 600 or 800 when bottling from a drum (we call our honey raw).
@@bobbinnie9872 What about the bag part number?
Hello friend,we produce many kinds of filling capping labeling and other packing machines,Email : sale15@landpacking.com
Whats-app/Wechat:+8618688219385.
Please i want to buy a full factory equipments...how i can contact you
What size are your honey tanks, and are they heated, and lastly where did you purchase them?
We have seven tanks total in this room. Five are 600 gallons each and two are 300 gallons. They are heated from the bottom. If you look closely you can see the seam for the water portion about 6 inches from the bottom. If I was having them made again I would only make this part 3 or 4 inches.The hot water circulating through the bottom is from a large on demand hot water heater. Each tank has its own circulating pump and thermostat set at 95 f which is the temperature at which we bottle. The tanks were custom made to my drawings at Hud Industries in Gardena, California. www.yelp.com/biz/hud-industries-gardena
They can make just about anything you want out of stainless steel.
How do you process your honey before filling Bib? Great video
We run it through an 800 micron filter on the way to the tanks and settle for at least one day. Minimal heat.
For more info see our video "Packing Honey".
@@bobbinnie9872 Hello Bob Thanks for sharing your expertise and Videos. It is very helpful.
I m buying honey from the farmers in 5 gallon buckets (12 buckets each time in my SUV.) and Strain it in Maxant water jacketed tank. Keep the thermostat on 95°F and manually bottle it. I m planning to buy a Dadant or Ez fill for bottling. Lifting barrel above the filling machine is not practical in our place. Our room size is 15'×30' with 2 exhaust fans to keep it little cooler, no AC.
What machine do you suggest for me, considering temperature and the position of the barrel!
This will be the first time I will pump directly from the barrel so I can't strain out other particles. Also I really don't want to buy another pump to pour it into Maxant tank to strain it, so what do suggest about straining or filtering the honey! Is there any attachment or something I can use? I would highly appreciate your advice. Thanks.
Sorry for the long text.
Hi Jay. Although I have heard decent comments about the Ez Fill I can't speak to it because I've never used one and don't have enough information to form an opinion.
When looking at bottling equipment you need to understand the term "flooded". Some bottling machines do best when the product source is at or above the level of the machine so it doesn't need to suck and only needs to push. This means it's "flooded". The machines in this video have different needs. The Chadam works better than the fill master as long as it's flooded but the fill master is far better at pulling honey out of a drum or bucket on the floor. It will also pull honey through the filters seen in this video by creating a good vacuum. I don't know where the Ez Fill stands on this issue but considering your situation it sounds like you need to figure that out before you buy. I understand the newer fill masters have bigger pumps and motors than the ones I have, are much better, and will pump cold honey. They also have stainless steel pumps, not plastic. Good luck with your decision.
Are you showing the equipment that you are phasing out because your going to sell it soon?
No, we are still using these machines at times and also want to keep every thing for back up. The new line is up and running and so far has been doing great.
Bob Binnie at Blue Ridge Honey Company
My friend is going to update his bottling line to an automated system. Do you have any suggestions for an automated bottler?
@@3Beehivesto300 We purchased our system, which works great, from Chadum Consultants in Indiana which was recently bought out by Apex Filling Systems. Mike Salyer who owned Chadum highly recommended Apex as a company to deal with. We have called them for advice and they were very helpful. You might give them a call. They come up on Google easily. Prepare your friend for sticker shock. This stuff isn't cheap.
How do you Sterilise all those jars and lids in large numbers?
They come from the factory clean and because honey is a safe food (somewhat self sterilizing) we are not required to rewash as long as our storage facility passes inspection, which it always has.
when i am bottling sometimes i have small boobles in honey that they stay inside why is this happening?
The bubbles should float to the top which can turn into a film of foam on top. If they are very fine it can take a long time to disappear. If you have a Fill Master that is introducing excessive fine bubbles it is most likely sucking air through a fitting or seal.
nice
What is the brand and model of your new automated system?
Our automated system was custom made by Chadum Consultants which was recently purchased by Apex Filling Systems LLC. Because it was custom it does not have a model number.
@@bobbinnie9872 How much does it cost?
@@bobbinnie9872 You sold me on the idea, because you have been the only person to mentioned honey temperature while using filling machines.
The total system which includes feed table, feed reservoir, four head filler, cap tightener, used Universal Labeler, inkjet lot code machine and receiving table cost around $78,000.00
You may be interested in an article I wrote. www.beeculture.com › processing-honey-a-closer-look
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hi,
where can i get one of those machine? can i get some info. I am in Indonesia.
www.dadant.com/catalog/new-and-improved-fill-master-m006262
Hello friend,we produce many kinds of filling capping labeling and other packing machines,Email : sale15@landpacking.com
Whats-app/Wechat:+8618688219385.
@@ronikazhang5585 hi there . please provide me more information about the filling machine. if you have the mini one please send the catalog to viktor.maresa@gmail.com
How can I get one
www.dadant.com/catalog/new-and-improved-fill-master-m006262
Any used fillers for sale?
Sorry, no.
Do you process and bottle honey for other beekeepers too, or just for you own business?
We do bottle for other beekeepers and also for a few distributers.
How can we get in touch with you to bottle up honey ?
I bought a used fillmaster for cheep. Come to find out the pump is not factory and is made of cast iron. Do you have any info on the factory pump. Dadant said they didn’t make them anymore and had to buy the stainless pump for big $...
A picture of the I’d tag or owners manual.
I’m just tying to find the info for the original brass pump in hope of finding one.
Our older fillmaster brass pump is a Sherwood, model 54-01, serial 5065102. Good luck.
Bob Binnie at Blue Ridge Honey Company you were correct. Good luck...
nobody has the pump or even the part number in their system.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR JOBS W/ THE AUTOMATION?
ONE OR BOTH OF THOSE LADIES GOING TO BE OUT ON THEIR CANS, W/ THAT AUTOMATION?
None. We're simply able to do more.
@@bobbinnie9872 *VERY* GOOD ON YA'LL.
BEEN SUBD., FOR AWHILE AND FROM THE FIRST VID I SAW OF YOURS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.
GOOD LUCK AND HOPE YA'LL LAST ANOTHER 100 YEARS.
I have been programming robotics and other automation for years now this is what I’ve seen: When I was in the automotive industry, I helped launch machinery with 6-8 robots that would eliminate four jobs and those people were cut throat and workers were simply “units”. Now I work for a coffee and tea company that when a machine is upgraded with automation, the operators literally sit in office chairs and nod off to sleep with their machines running. That being said, it would really be left up the owner on what profit margin they want in my opinion.
why filter the honey?
We course filter to make sure there isn't anything dangerous in the honey. It's possible to have splinters if wood and small pieces of nail or wire from the comb frames in the honey. It happens only rarely but it does happen.