The resulting pattern was awesome before you even painted it. The painting after was just a nice touch. I approve, and I'm certain that my 6 year old would also approve.
Those wrinkles may have been caused by the rags you used to separate de carbon fiber from the plastic bag, as they were not perfectly flat it made the fiber copy those bumpy shapes. Also you have to spread each layer of epoxy with that credit card so you don't get air pockets
There are a couple things someone can do to avoid wrinkles. First of all use the exact ammount of epoxy. The data sheet of any fiber material gives you information on either weight or volume percentage of resin/fiber. Too much resin and the matrix could develop cracks, too little and the matrix will not achieve peak strength and may delaminate. During the vacuum process use special perforated foil and fleece on top. This way the excess epoxy can escape through the holes and gets soaked by the fleece.
I would say carbon probably wasn't the best material for this job anyways. You can get heavy, Triax, fiberglass for about $3 a foot and it's gonna be much stiffer than carbon like that. Also to maximize torsional stiffness, you'll want a triax composite on the top and bottom of the deck; I would say having one layer on top and one on the bottom is much better than 2 on the bottom.
I thought this was great. Awesome learning experience. Over here thinking what deck i want to try this with. I have some old street setups that it may be interesting to see if i can bring ine back to life with thia process.
Hey man, i can't say much because I've never done this but one thing i do know about epoxy is it tends to heat up during the curing process. I think maybe what happened is the clear plastic sheet you put on first heated up and shrunk/wrinkled taking in epoxy with it and also causing those voids elsewhere. With the amount of resin you used i dont see it being a structural issue. But it looks really cool! Cheers man
Cool video! I like tinkering with projects like this, but I think you convinced me to not give this a go given how things can go wrong without more specialized equipment. Great video though, I enjoyed watching the process!
Formica is durable withstanding heavy impacts and unlike fiber glass and even carbon fiber isn't an irritant to the sensitive or for that matter anyone once it gets beat up and scratched. Heat resistant, moisture resistant, easy to maintain, hygienic, multiple texture and extensive aesthetic choices.
Tri-axial fibers on the bottom (unidirectional fibers parallel to the long side of the board) and bi-axial fibers on top gives you the best sandwich to stiffen up the board. The unidirectional fibers on bottom reduce flex, and the biax fibers reduce torsion.
@@nickamarit in this case just use biaxial fibers top and bottom. I forgot to mention that the fibers must lay in a +45° and -45° orientation to the length achsis of the board. However, no matter what kind of laminate you put on your board it will affect stiffness in all modes... but like this it will mostly affect torsional stiffness.
I fiberglassed both sides of my board with strands in offset directions either side. Big improvement. And I enjoyed the job, even though it was a hell of a lot of work 😂 Board is a bit warped unfortunately, which I probably should have tried to fix before. But it works fine anyhow 👌
@@owencampbell777 yeah, that was one thing they were very cautious about at the shop where I bought it. Apparently, the Epoxy doesn't have an immediate toxic effect on the skin, but repeated skin contact can lead to over-sensitization and development of very strong allergy to the compounds in it
Toothbrush mixer went crazy
Definitely my favorite part of the video, and I like the video.
custom marble 38 cannot go wrong, its so good
The resulting pattern was awesome before you even painted it. The painting after was just a nice touch. I approve, and I'm certain that my 6 year old would also approve.
Those wrinkles may have been caused by the rags you used to separate de carbon fiber from the plastic bag, as they were not perfectly flat it made the fiber copy those bumpy shapes. Also you have to spread each layer of epoxy with that credit card so you don't get air pockets
Yup, I should have bought a layer or two of fleece or some other fabric I could have laid flat
There are a couple things someone can do to avoid wrinkles.
First of all use the exact ammount of epoxy. The data sheet of any fiber material gives you information on either weight or volume percentage of resin/fiber.
Too much resin and the matrix could develop cracks, too little and the matrix will not achieve peak strength and may delaminate.
During the vacuum process use special perforated foil and fleece on top. This way the excess epoxy can escape through the holes and gets soaked by the fleece.
Sick cover up job!
Thank you!!!
I would say carbon probably wasn't the best material for this job anyways. You can get heavy, Triax, fiberglass for about $3 a foot and it's gonna be much stiffer than carbon like that. Also to maximize torsional stiffness, you'll want a triax composite on the top and bottom of the deck; I would say having one layer on top and one on the bottom is much better than 2 on the bottom.
Great advice, thanks!
Yeah I tried this too last year and it was so bad haha
I thought this was great. Awesome learning experience. Over here thinking what deck i want to try this with. I have some old street setups that it may be interesting to see if i can bring ine back to life with thia process.
Hey man, i can't say much because I've never done this but one thing i do know about epoxy is it tends to heat up during the curing process. I think maybe what happened is the clear plastic sheet you put on first heated up and shrunk/wrinkled taking in epoxy with it and also causing those voids elsewhere. With the amount of resin you used i dont see it being a structural issue. But it looks really cool! Cheers man
Great video, and the snafu art came out great. DIY isn't easy when you to purchase everything. Owning or having access to tools is key.
Take my work for it: my toeslides are fkn sick now
Great video. Editing was very fun. U smashed on them cookies. Board looks cooler than the pre sand now.
Cool video! I like tinkering with projects like this, but I think you convinced me to not give this a go given how things can go wrong without more specialized equipment. Great video though, I enjoyed watching the process!
Thanks for putting this out there. Salute 🫡 for taking one for the team.
Formica is durable withstanding heavy impacts and unlike fiber glass and even carbon fiber isn't an irritant to the sensitive or for that matter anyone once it gets beat up and scratched.
Heat resistant, moisture resistant, easy to maintain, hygienic, multiple texture and extensive aesthetic choices.
If it's still got too much torsional flex, you could also do the top too (diagonally this time)!
That’s a good idea, but I don’t want to put any more money into this board. The flex has been locked down enough
Tri-axial fibers on the bottom (unidirectional fibers parallel to the long side of the board) and bi-axial fibers on top gives you the best sandwich to stiffen up the board.
The unidirectional fibers on bottom reduce flex, and the biax fibers reduce torsion.
@@andi_fuuuu What if we only want to reduce torsional flex and not flex in any other direction?
@@nickamarit in this case just use biaxial fibers top and bottom. I forgot to mention that the fibers must lay in a +45° and -45° orientation to the length achsis of the board.
However, no matter what kind of laminate you put on your board it will affect stiffness in all modes... but like this it will mostly affect torsional stiffness.
@@andi_fuuuu So for bottom = 2 sheets: +45 & -45, and for top is same = 2 sheets: +45 & -45... so a total of 4 sheets, correct?
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YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!
Super cool cool 🤙🤙🤙
You could also just hand laminate it. Safes heaps of trouble with vacuum bags. Also definitely good gloves mate.
Oh yeah, big learning moment
Looks like the wrinkles are from the clothing ? Looks cool though tbh
Yup, if I used something flat and thick as a breather fabric (fleece maybe?) then it would have been better
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Thanks for lending us your credit card XD
Hope it helped
I made a carbon fiber without plastic vacuum seal
What wheelbase do you have it set up on?
Currently set to 25 inches
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Epoxy is NOT good for your skin
I fiberglassed both sides of my board with strands in offset directions either side.
Big improvement.
And I enjoyed the job, even though it was a hell of a lot of work 😂
Board is a bit warped unfortunately, which I probably should have tried to fix before.
But it works fine anyhow 👌
Good to know! That’s why this isn’t a tutorial video, haha
@@owencampbell777 yeah, that was one thing they were very cautious about at the shop where I bought it.
Apparently, the Epoxy doesn't have an immediate toxic effect on the skin, but repeated skin contact can lead to over-sensitization and development of very strong allergy to the compounds in it