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- Penn Jillette on Atheism and Islamophobia
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Penn Jillette just uttered the words: "I opened my heart to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit filled me." What does it mean? Will the magician, champion of atheists, and passionate Libertarian really live the rest of his life as a Christian in service to the Lord, and abracadabra open the gates of heaven when they rightly hesitate to let him in?
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PENN JILLETTE :
Penn Jillette is a cultural phenomenon as a solo personality and as half of the world-famous Emmy Award-winning magic duo Penn & Teller. His solo exposure is enormous: from Howard Stern to Glenn Beck to the Op-Ed pages of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and the Los Angeles Times. He has appeared on Dancing with the Stars, MTV Cribs, and Chelsea Lately and hosted the NBC game show Identity. As part of Penn & Teller, he has appeared more than twenty times on David Letterman, as well as on several other TV shows, from The Simpsons and Friends to Top Chef and The View. He co-hosts the controversial series Penn & Teller: Bullshit!, which has been nominated for sixteen Emmy Awards. He is currently co host of the Discovery Channel's Penn & Teller Tell a Lie and the author of God, No! and Presto!
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TRANSCRIPT:
Penn Jillette: About three years ago I came in to Big Think and I talked very strongly and very passionately about atheism, how I did not believe in God. And over the past three years I opened my heart to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit filled me. And all of a sudden I realized that everlasting life is possible by following in the ways of Jesus Christ our Lord. I have since then dedicated my life to Jesus Christ. I have joined the Church and I will live the rest of my life and die as a Christian in service and in joy with Jesus Christ Our Lord. I’m just fucking with you. For a minute, just for a minute did I - just for a second did I have you going? Just for a minute? Can you imagine how much money I would make if I could just convert to re - I don’t have to convert. If I just pretend to convert. Can you imagine if I just took and threw away my atheism, if I threw away my morality and said I was religious and went out and started preaching? Can you imagine the amount of money I would make. But what good if a man gained the whole world but lose his soul. No. I’m still an atheist. I’m still doing fine. I just spoke at a Young Americans for Liberty conference, you know, a lot of conservatives, a lot of people that are too young to be wearing suits were wearing suits.
I liked them. And afterwards a man came up to me probably 20 years old and he was slight in build, very dark complected and he said to me I wanted to talk about this during your lecture but I was very, very frightened that there were cameras there. And I said well there were cameras there so at least you’re not frightened by UFOs. You’re frightened by spiders, something that’s real. I can respect that. I made this kind of light of his wording there. And then he shut me up because then he said my family is from Pakistan and everybody in my community is a devout Muslim. And my mom and dad are devout Muslims. And I’m an atheist. And if I said that while you were speaking, if I raised my hand and said that with the cameras on, said that declared a statement I’m an atheist. My mom and dad would not kill me but they would disown me and they would never speak to me again. And I would be an apostate and it is not unlikely that someone in my community would kill me.
And he didn’t mean that figuratively. He didn’t mean that word kill like comedians mean it. He meant they would take his life away. Now I know Ayaan Hirsi Ali so I know he wasn’t bluffing. And then it got worse because then he said and yet with my dark skin and my straight black hair the other side considers me Muslim and wants to get me out of the country and treat me badly. And I hear Trump giving his speeches against people of my ancestry. And I realize that there’s nobody for me.
Nobody. And he said I want to talk to you because - and this is him saying this - he said some stuff about me being the only one who would understand which is clearly not true. Everybody understands. Virtually everybody understands. But, you know, as an atheist Christopher Hitchins, my friend, my hero, my mentor even though he isn’t much older than me but he’s so much smarter. He used to say, you know Penn, if you dislike C...
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"There is no God. So we have to do Gods work. Because he wont. " Love it
Novaverse That quote hit me as soon as he said it, that was amazing.
Novaverse Atheist new slogan? sounds awesome,I might quote this a lot 😆😆😆😆
Novaverse kill babies and burn witches?
One problem, there is a God :) And you are doing His work.
"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
not gonna lie, he actually got me for a second there
lmao that prank intro 😂😂😂
"no such thing as god so we have to do god's work".
RequiemFor America *communism.
Robert's Art Studio
yep. And he makes sense and he is right
>Communism
>Penn is Libertarian and that is the exact opposite of Communism
Yup sure thing, buddy
Communism isn't the answer.
Joseph Wilson
it's the opposite of war, greed and "winner takes all" mentality. You cant let that in a capitalist society!
i gotta admit, he got me going for a second .
Sorry, I have to disagree with you on your evaluation of people as good overall. Most people aren't good or bad. They are "sheep" (for lack of a better word) that don't think for themselves and take the path of least resistance.
Sheep is such a cringe worthy word -_-
He just meant "good" in the sense that
they hold to our society's behavioral norms
and aren't planning to attack you. That there's no reason to fear any such individual
compared to any other stranger.
No, he means good. As in, they don't want war, they're genuinely empathetic, and don't want to hurt anyone. You know, a good person? Unless you're a sociopath, this should be common sense. That, or you're incapable of comprehending sonder, so you massively over simplify your worldview.
same sentiments as mine. different words.
except that I don't believe that humans generally possess a strong natural empathy.
some do. I think it's rare.
but putting that aside,
whatever we can expect from a white or European person,
we can expect from any other.
What does being good or bad have to do with being a sheep?
Why can't you hate people for their ideas? People hate politicians for their ideas all the time.
Terrorism isn't even the biggest concern, so to go on and on about it is pointless.
The main problem is how Muslims change the societies in which they move. The loving and compassionate people in Western civilization are happy to give up the important things that make it great, and that is unacceptable to me.
gantmj forgot about slavery? Bravo.
Evo Fraction
The slavery of whom?
Evo Fraction Muslims had Slaves as well and they had slaves longer than all western countries.
Dylan Boyd The black slave trade died in America in the 1863.
An Islamic "slave" ruled over Muslim lands. Show me where a slave ruled over America, even once.
Islamic "slavery" is nothing like the animalistic slavery of the West.
Evo Fraction Wow have you heard of the Janissaries. Are you saying slavery is good one way but not the other. Have you heard of Serfdom almost exactly the same as slavery. Your missing the point btw slavery happened every where it wasn't just a western thing to try and say it was only western culture that did bad slavery, cause there's a good kind according to you.
oh my God you actually got me. thank you comment section for saving me I was seriously about to be very sad for a long time Penn jillette is one of our greats we can't lose him over to nonsense
O Ooooooooo my Universe!! .. My heart! I fucking fell for it... Pheewwwwww....
I knew that it was coming as soon as he said he was a Christian! Love you, Penn!
Modern day Christianity and modern day Islam don't even compare in terms of the horrible things that they believe and do. And yes, you can hate people for their beliefs (depending on how you define hate). If people believe things that are horrible, it makes them less good as people.
"And I realised there's nobody for me." So true words. I started crying...
@Someone wait what?
Oh shit I believed the mad man thank goodness he didn't go mad
Penn was on the NPR show Fresh Air a few years ago. I think he was talking about his book. His mother was a devout Christian and he had a generally good experience among Christians. He's one of the few public atheists that doesn't go far out of his way EVERY single chance to caricature Christians to try to get points from other atheists.
dont know why the dislikes. sure he could have made some better points but he was very genuine and was reaonable
Thanks BigThink, it's good to revisit these exceptional segments.
Don't do that to me almost gave me a heart attack!
Thanks a lot you killed my buzz with that opening
For a moment I thought this guy was crazy, even after he admitted to joking, but this video is great. Very well explained
as a person raised with the fear of an eternal hell aka Islam, I feel u talking to me here Penn. Respect. I'm a man in the dark looking for the light of souls that will accept me as I accept them.
0.50...you had me going there Penn LOL
To link to a certain time in the video, you have to use a colon, no a dot or decimal point.
Like this 0:50.
I think we would have noticed that hell (which doesn't exist) had frozen over and pigs (which do exist) could fly.
Never been to America, but love it; think it's the greatest society in the world, because of people like Penn Jillette. But I think he's wrong in this case, and wrong about President Elect Donald Trump: help the refugees, but help them to remain in safe zones in thier own countries. Some who have been fully vetted could be resettled; but an uncontrolled influx is asking for trouble.
Is this a re-upload? I am certain I have seen this before.
Mr. Jillette, that was a strange and also wonderful video. I appreciate your willingness to be vulnerable and to acknowledge the complexity of our country's moral challenges. Thank you for saying it passionately that atheists must follow the higher path of compassionately loving people, especially muslims (who are so easily scapegoated). As an atheist myself, I wish that more atheists would talk freely and openly about the counter-productive (and boring) strategy of "shouting loudly that God is dead." Why are so many public atheists arrogant one-note canaries? Why are so few actively modeling the really difficult (and truly admirable) character traits of compassion, humility, loving-kindness, justice and moral imagination? We so need these virtues as individuals and as a community.
You really had me. I was about to turn this off. "Im a Christian now " damn. He really got me
Oh, my word, I laughed so hard at the intro. Priceless.
Oh my god he played me.
Powerful from the beginning to the end. Thanks Penn. You sent a chill down my spine with that opening.
I think it's important to point out that someone told him their community would kill them and he's saying that saying anything against those people is wrong.
Thank you, Penn. I've been saying this since October of 2001. We are who we are because we are the people who put compassion and welcoming ahead of bigotry. It's been that way since the beginning of the USA.
"You are not allowed to hate people for their ideas." I strongly disagree.
You are allowed to hate whomever you want. Should you, though?
The meaning is deeper than the words.
"Objectively shit"? This conversation is over :)
Bobby Newmark You realize that ideologies evolve and change right? Christian don't stone people to death anymore, they wear mixed fabric and they get tattoos. Many cultures and belief evolve with time. They don't evolve by isolating them or by going to war with the people who hold those belief but actually challenge the belief it's self. Best evidence for this is history. (The renaissance era.)
The point is hate the idea not the person who holds that idea. Because more than not that idea was forced upon them. We can show them different.
The biggest problem in this life that if you want to believe that there is no God you will find persuasive evidences and if you believe there is God you will also find strong evidences , the conclusion is you can create your own reality in your own life by having a point view and belief system, all in all our knowledge is always way smaller than the actual universe.
This has been on here before. Why is it being reuploaded?
I must admit I started reading the transcript during the first minute and spoiled it.
"I don't doubt that ever," is a very dangerous way to approach any worldview or belief
Is this a reupload?
Dude I almost choked on my tongue. Come on Penn don't do that shit again
So how long until AIU makes a response to this?
Wow, I must say you had me a bit scared at the very beginning! lol
But in the end I felt this was a great message and very heartfelt! It even made me stop and do some self reflecting.
Good for you Penn! I will definitely share this.
YOU SCARED ME PENN. DONT DO THAT PLEASE.
Re-upload? I believe I have seen this before.
Pearce's channel it says best of '16
Skrelp oid ah well that's what I get from not reading the whole video title?
I'll have more love and compassion when OUR OWN sick, tired, and starving are no longer so.
i was so confused for the first 50 seconds
A lot of great points. Thank you!
This is a repost?
Great talk, very well put. Scared me good in the opening too. :P
Holy shit you had me going. I was about to go join church myself.
If at first it doesn't' stick, then repeat until it does... Yes its an important message.
But why does this channel think that by reposting videos its going to be more popular?
The channel is revisiting what they consider the best of 2016, as the title claims.
just wonderful!
this was uploaded months ago
This video was uploaded b4...
I was soooo close to closing out this video in the beginning lol
why did they reissue this ??
Most important part clearly @7:35. :-D
No better way to say it.
love this guy
im such a penn fan!
Penn/Sanders 2020!
I love Penn Jillete. I find it hilarious that we need a magician to show us the truth.
love Penn jillete
I gotta admit, at the beginning he nearly got me..
dammit, I paused the video before he said it was a joke and went to make a pj sandwich pondering about my life... son of a...
Dude u had me.... lmao that was fyckeddddd
Got me.
He looks alike jeff bridges
He says he can be respectful towards christians, but does the opposite with the intro of this video. Hypocrisy is a surefire way to ensure no one takes you seriously. So I'll just extrapolate that to all of his conclusions until he gets his shit together.
Jack Culhane It was a joke. Not his fault your offended by a joke. It wasn't a slight at all.
Drhumbolt: Mockery is disrespect. I'm not offended, also not entertained, also not drawing the same conclusions as pen. Deal with it.
Jack Culhane I'm dealing by replying to you. Mockery: teasing and contemptuous language or behavior directed at a particular person or thing. Being contemptuous of someone or something means that you're combining a deep dislike for them with condescension. It was a joke.
Drhumbolt I don't run around yelling at people for not finding my jokes funny, and then yell at the other half of my audience that's upset that its their own fault they are angry. It's not my fault he needs better jokes.
Jack Culhane when was he yelling?
I exressed my ideas about atheism, good god the mind of a devout christian is thicker than kevlar. They scare me, just the amount of what they say that they dont understand themselves.
7:03 "The chances of a terrorist believing in Islam are pretty good. The chances of someone believing in Island of being a terrorist are very very bad, very little chance of that." He makes a very good point there.
we can virtue signal about out atheism, but there are good traits about Christianity. they at least believe in community and family.
Lovely guy
When Mr. Jillette meets his maker, and make no mistake, that day will come (weather he's an atheist or not,) I wonder what the Lord will think of the "magician" when he tries to dissappear, or pull a rabbit out of his hat, to try to trick himself out of judgment...lol 💫🌟
And yet not one religion has came forward and proved to us that their God exists. So tell me my friend imagine Zeus is real... Will you shit your pants?
Perfect ending...
Holy shit. Well said. This is so insanely on point I'm shocked.
I sure hope a terrorist doesn't get this guy. It would be hard for me to withhold my laughter should that happen.
I didn't believe this for a second. But it was funny all the same.
So you don't believe we should help those who cry out for help?
There's no such thing as islamaphobia.
I guess you're right =(
The truth is that God is real and He sent His son to save us from the damnation of unrepentant sins. Receive the testimony of Yeshua. Amen.
Eric Strait ah these comments , best joke so far
1:16 "But what good if a man gains the whole world but loses his soul?" 5:18 "You're allowed to hate ideas. You're not allowed to hate people for their ideas."
Professional victims from all directions... how about fixing their own problems in their own countries? And not running away only to bring their flawed rules on to others...
all sounds good but none of this will happen. people are good but there will always be bad.
What is Islamaphobia?
Take enough LSD and you will know God... but It won't be anything like you imagine :)
OLD video
So effin true!!! You could be that token former-atheist who could fit the role of the token black-guy is used iin the conservative evangelist community! lol. Like that "Hey now - i cant be racist! After all i have allowed one black guy into my house once upon a time" lol!
-yeah - pkay that was a bit over the tiop there - but not by all that much! more realisticaly speakig - it'd be instead something more along the lines of: "I have a black friend and therefore i cannot be racist nor have subconscious/conscious prejudices what so ever!" All you would need to be used in a similar manor would be if you were to remove the "racism" part with instead "converted-atheist" - and now they could say: 'i can't be intolerant to other religious faiths or those who have none (as in atheists) - and that i can't then be bigoted in any sorta way toward nonbelievers! After all- i have a converted former-atheist as a friend!" lol
omg, jaw dropped
This is a repeat. I've seen this before.
***** Humf. I don't have time to read entire titles.
Nothing wrong with being a Christian.
Torture is wrong > Defending use of torture is wrong > Christians necessarily define torture inflicted on unbelievers as morally right > Therefore Christianity is wrong
No. The people who practiced torture were wrong. God or Jesus are not mortal, they never condone or did torture. People dit. You cannot call Christianity wrong because a crazy ass condoned torture. That's like to say gamers are evil because games make people kill one another each day. Which they don't.
He never said it was.
dislike just because there is islamaphobia in the tittle.
"we must love them, we must help them, we must embrace them. Even if we know they are wrong" . Please cut the atheist tag. We know what was the purpose of religions. Admit that christianity values are the basis of any high form civilisation or community. Or at least dont use word by word Christ messages
My boi
IM STILL AN ATHEIST, IM STILL DOING FINE.... hahahah
(him non schalantly implying non atheists are not fine-in the head. ha)
atheism is not non religious person atheism today means its non christian.
Eddie's Psychoanalysis no no it doesn't
Eddie's Psychoanalysis dumbest thing i've heard in a loooooong while
YOU HAD ME!!!!! HAHA YOU FUNNY!!!!
It is wrong to tell people what they believe is wrong, you can’t possibly know what’s right, everyone should be able to have there own beliefs and we shouldn’t look at them like there wrong of course you can have your own opinions but to try to change others beliefs WRONG, I love the show fool us but this has completely ruined the way I see penn. not cause he’s atheist, cause he is pure ignorance to the fact that everyone has the right to believe in what there heart desires!
We work together and avoid group thinking. Diversify. Most questions answer themselves in analysis. Can't we all just get along seems to work for me most of the time. You right most people are good just each has its own definition based on experience and context. So we live and learn and look to history as well as each other. The developed and underdeveloped countries are due to history nothing we can do to change that. But we can learn from our past mistakes and then work from there. Self reflection can be good from time to time. Then back to work.
Why are you an ateist and not an pantheist?
He believed in Jesus, so Jesus took away his curse of fatness.
Cotton Candy Hair made of piss. so funny.