Hugh Hammer, Ulf the White, Addam & Allyn of Hull - Dragonseeds Explained! House of the Dragon

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  • SPOILERS Fire & Blood - Everything you want to know about the dragonseeds - what they do in Fire & Blood, how they're being adapted so far, who they are as people, and more. Hard Hugh Hammer, Ulf the White, and Addam of Hull (and Allyn of Hull) get the full treatment. These are shaping up to be incredible characters!
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  • @Mink-yu8nu
    @Mink-yu8nu 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

    Oh to see Seasmoke being happy and smiling again!

    • @anorangetabby
      @anorangetabby 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Until he's murdered by his own kind. 😢

  • @mohammedyesufu9360
    @mohammedyesufu9360 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +174

    Great video… however I think they already addressed the Laenor plot point in episode 3. When Rhaenera mentions how restless his dragon is, and Mysaria responds “may be he (the dragon) is lonely” that seemed to hint the dragon was mourning. My guess is it sensed Laenor had died, where ever he was.

    • @Solitude102
      @Solitude102 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      I got the same vibes.

    • @bennyinict8768
      @bennyinict8768 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

      Also the look on Rhea’s face (unnerved or maybe surprised). To me it felt like Mysaria’s words/observation made her snap into consider about Laenor’s wellbeing. Almost like a “oh shit, I hope Laenor is ok.” moment. I feel like they’re setting it up to write him off as dead.

    • @Darkness-ie2yl
      @Darkness-ie2yl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I'm betting after the events of next episode, laenor pops up from wherever he's hiding and gets himself slain....

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The general audience is never going to understand what the line in passing means

    • @Tinkerbe11
      @Tinkerbe11 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I had the same thoughts.

  • @MrFox-gz7wm
    @MrFox-gz7wm 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +119

    The Velaryons have been intermarrying with the targaryens prior to aegons conquest. Aegon's mother was a velaryon who in turn was half targaryen; their continued condition to marry the velaryons after the conquest further affirms this. The velaryons at this point have a little "dragon riding blood" within them, enoguh it seems for addam to tame seasmoke. I'm primarily a book reader. Moreover, in general, the "blood of the dragon riders" is a hand wavy concept in the books itself. it functions as george wants it to function. The point of the dragon seeds narratively is to pointedly undermine the targaryen doctrine of exceptionalism. They were given said exceptionalism by the high septon because they had to intergrate with westerosi feudal society but moreover, it is a concept by which george can critique those with perceived absolute power being the same as everyone else in reality. By all accounts, dany shouldn't have been able to perform her ceremony. She is a quarter blackwood, martell and valyrian. The point im making is anyone with a smidge of dragon riding blood has the CHANCE to tame a dragon but not the assurity. Whatever the percentage in addam allowed him to fully tame the seasmoke without issue.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      yep i agree with all that, and like I was saying, they make great foils for the Targs. Hugh seems especially interesting

    • @jorose343
      @jorose343 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@MrFox-gz7wm I too at first questioned how Adam could claim a dragon if he was Corlys son but yes if you look at the family line there is probably targaryens in his ancestry as well. It will be interesting to see the timeline of the brothers birth because at the moment Allyn looks older than Leanor but Adam looks like he may be the same age or younger. We shall see 🫣. He is definitely already considering them for his heirs though, the line ‘another opportunity may present itself’ and then the look back at Rhaenys, to me that was a ‘hmm how do I bring this up with her’ look.

    • @Nubin2000
      @Nubin2000 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Recent or Constant Valyrian Blood is needed for Dragon Riding. However, Bonding can still be an issue due to the particular dragon.

    • @thomasleonardis711
      @thomasleonardis711 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Perhaps Seasmoke was willing to bond with a Velaryon because he had already been bonded to one. Yes, Addam had less Targaryen blood then Laenor but he still had some and the rest of his blood (Velaryon) was familiar to the dragon. We aren’t sure how the bond actually works.
      Edit: or his mother could be a dragonseed since we haven’t seen her yet.

    • @MrFox-gz7wm
      @MrFox-gz7wm 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@Nubin2000 Thats not even remotely true. We have no clue how much dragon blood is needed. What we do know is that having some helps by a large margin but doesnt guarantee it. Even sons of house targaryen would be weary to tame a dragon ala fire and blood.

  • @bonghitsandheavyriffs
    @bonghitsandheavyriffs 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +241

    THE SEED IS STRO- wait, wrong house.

    • @steffurness
      @steffurness 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Nah, it all fits. ✌

    • @yogadork_namaste
      @yogadork_namaste 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Still works! Dragon rider seeds are strong, too :)

    • @ThommyofThenn
      @ThommyofThenn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Well to be fair you don't get a nickname like Hard Hugh without being pretty yoked

    • @bennyinict8768
      @bennyinict8768 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Ahahaha

    • @Covers-and-Commentary
      @Covers-and-Commentary 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Loool

  • @jorose343
    @jorose343 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    Theory: Nettles is Hugh daughter. Description fits and she is dragon seed through her dad. She seems sick right now but claiming a dragon she is brought back to full health (jaehaerys calling for an egg for sick daenerys link). Something happens maybe during the riots in kingslanding to Hugh’s wife and he flees from kings landing with daughter to dragonstone. A wide reach but I know everyone is desperate for nettles 😂

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I thought she looked like a child maybe I'm wrong?

    • @jorose343
      @jorose343 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      @@DavidLightbringer she did look young, younger than Jace but she looked a little older or same age as Luke maybe. It could be next season she would claim the dragon giving her time to age a little. Haha definitely a wiiiiiiiiiide reach only a thought really 🤔 only a justification for him even having a daughter where as in the books there was no mention of him having a family. But I think you are right in saying the reason they showed him having a family is to give us more perspective on the small folk. I unfortunately think it is much more likely that something bad will happen to them 🥲

    • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
      @jonhauge-evaldsson783 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@jorose343I love that theory!

    • @Darkness-ie2yl
      @Darkness-ie2yl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      she's coming season 3. we're not getting 2 major battles this season

    • @thomasleonardis711
      @thomasleonardis711 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Ugh. It would be Daemon grooming again…. Otherwise I’m totally onboard with this theory.
      My personal theory is his daughter will die in the KL riots serving as the catalyst to his betrayal.

  • @dominic3797
    @dominic3797 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    "Hugh the Hammer and Sickle" if a superb joke i almost missed 😂 Hats off for that Dave

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      hehehe

    • @ThommyofThenn
      @ThommyofThenn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This post brought to you by the Hammer Liberation Front

    • @lobomedina6312
      @lobomedina6312 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@DavidLightbringer
      Glad someone else caught that. Che "El Chacal" Guevara and The Beard "disappeared" a lot of "smallfolk" including family and friends.

  • @MarcosSantos-dj6lk
    @MarcosSantos-dj6lk 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Hugh Hammer is the one that I'm more excited the actor looks exactly like I imagine him

  • @gleann_cuilinn
    @gleann_cuilinn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    I re-read fire and blood recently and it seems like Nettles doesn't actually start doing things until after I expect season 2 to wrap up. I think there's a good chance that she will be in the show but they're not introducing her yet, so as not to overwhelm viewers who aren't lore nerds.

    • @last7509
      @last7509 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      yeah. she features in the second big battle and they definitely are managing the cgi budget carefully so she won't show up this season

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I mean the books didn't have Baela going after Cole or Rhaenys storming through the dragon pit so the show could've easily introduced us to Nettles already if she exists that is

    • @last7509
      @last7509 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @MrFredstt the battle she features in is considerably larger cgi budget. they want to also manage our short attention span and our emotions so for this season shes not needed

  • @kristi4113
    @kristi4113 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Addam watching Sea Smoke flying overhead with such wonder was telling. He was curious and for sure wanted to know where that beautiful dragon was going. I suspect we will find out soon that Addam indeed follows and then claims.

    • @Maegorsteats
      @Maegorsteats 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’ve been thinking he was watching Baela patrol on Moondancer which would be its own awesome Easter egg but it being seasmoke also works.

  • @ktosco793
    @ktosco793 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    24:35 with the way seasmoke has been acting, i think laenor dying is possible

  • @rudzanimunyai2090
    @rudzanimunyai2090 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    Mushroom said Addamm & Alyn were Corlys’ and he lied about them being Leanor’s 😅 The writters have gone with some of Mushroom’s theories thus far and judging by the cast (age) we can be sure they’re Corlys’s, afterall.

    • @TheOriginalAliKat
      @TheOriginalAliKat 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      But I thought the Velaryons weren't dragon riders unless they had mixed blood with the Targaryens? Cuz Rhaenys children had dragons because of her

    • @last7509
      @last7509 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i mean it's not really theory when you have insurmountable evidence bro. laenor does not participate in activities that bring forth children....

    • @Darkness-ie2yl
      @Darkness-ie2yl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      the evidence tells you laenor would never be their dad...

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would be surprised if they weren't his. And now he's being wishy washy about naming Rhaena or Joffrey his heir right after his scene with Alyn?

    • @SolitaryLark
      @SolitaryLark 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheOriginalAliKatthe Velaryons and Targaryens have constantly intermarried it’s almost the same bloodline.

  • @ReallyGoodandKind
    @ReallyGoodandKind 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I can’t wait for the “Loyal” moment. It’s my favorite part of the Dance in Fire and Blood

  • @Kceam
    @Kceam 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    What do you think of the Theory that Otto might take over the role of Hobart Hightower in the show and be part of the Caltrops and take Ulf out? It would fit with him going to Daeron and Oldtown right now, and give the viewers a character they know in the Reach storyline. I think it could be a good change.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      yeah that could make a lot of sense, he would turn that scene into something truly epic like he did the confrontation with Aegon

    • @aplusrecommends9406
      @aplusrecommends9406 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Alicent specifically told Otto to go to the reach and manage the tyrells, not old town.

    • @three-eyed_magpie
      @three-eyed_magpie 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      It's an interesting idea but I just don't see Otto willingly drinking the poisoned wine and sacrificing himself. He's the kind of person that sacrifices others.

    • @captainziggy82
      @captainziggy82 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aplusrecommends9406that’s not gonna happen for long if it does go that way

    • @persephone342
      @persephone342 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@three-eyed_magpieI could see Otto drinking poisoned wine to take Ulf out. After everything he sacrificed to it Aegon on the throne, he will do anything.

  • @nonfiction9849
    @nonfiction9849 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I think Rhaenyra/Daemon will be shook when Seasmoke gets claimed. Will have a convo that Laenor must’ve passed, Seasmoke was upset.

    • @anorangetabby
      @anorangetabby 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      If Rhaenyra and Daemon ever speak again.

    • @andrewb2156
      @andrewb2156 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh sweet summer child

  • @three-eyed_magpie
    @three-eyed_magpie 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I hope they show at least a glimpse of Marilda, another awesome smallfolk character from the book.

  • @AntoineVello
    @AntoineVello 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    David. Thank you so much for pointing out that Baelon was madly in love with Alyssa and likely is not Ulf's father. (I say likely because we obviously never know)
    I was annoyed to see people talking Ulf at his word when people lie about absent parents all the time.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      yeah I mean if I was writing that character, I would never have him say anything that was totally true. This is a guy who bends everything to make it a little better

    • @octaviablackthorn9
      @octaviablackthorn9 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do I believe Ulf’s lying? Yes. But at the same time, men who love their wives cheat all the time. Especially in a society where there’s nothing wrong with men sleeping with women not their wives (at long as it’s not another man’s wife). Corlys clearly loves Rhaenys a great deal, that didn’t stop him from fathering two bastards (on the same woman I might mention) while away from her.

    • @natedogg890
      @natedogg890 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Jay Z cheated on Beyonce, just saying. No man can be just assumed to be above temptation

    • @mosthatedty9585
      @mosthatedty9585 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Didn’t Alyssa die young in their marriage and Baelon never remarried who’s to say he never went to a brothel after her death

    • @natedogg890
      @natedogg890 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@mosthatedty9585 Facts, that would be a great throwback to Tywin too

  • @ameliayoung1133
    @ameliayoung1133 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    man, your content really is so wonderful! I read fire and blood several years ago, so things are a little hazy in my memory, but you're bringing it all right back!!! also i have sent your daemon's dragon song video to anyone who will listen lmao i think it's one of the coolest asoiaf theories ive ever heard!! thanks for keepin the good stuff comin :)

  • @14Tamayo
    @14Tamayo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    After Leanor surviving season one I thought he was going come back at some point with a bastard son claiming both were Corlys bastards to keep the story of his fake death.

  • @thomasleonardis711
    @thomasleonardis711 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Alyn “Oakenfist” Velaryon, a legend in his own right.

  • @aerynmusick4548
    @aerynmusick4548 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I just caught up on the show the other night. It’s been a rough few weeks not being able to watch your videos, glad that’s over!

  • @HeartTranslucent
    @HeartTranslucent 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love what you offer. Everytime you find the hidden angle. You also have such a sharp mind and great humor, adds so much. I love watching your videos❤

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      aww thank you so much that made my day

  • @natedogg890
    @natedogg890 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Im here for Hugh Guevara ✊🏽🇨🇺

    • @mohirender
      @mohirender 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ✊🏽

    • @haymaker710
      @haymaker710 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Viva la Westeros Libre

    • @ThommyofThenn
      @ThommyofThenn 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      😂 i love this communities sense of humor

  • @lanam.9235
    @lanam.9235 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love these mid week videos!

  • @bear_eater254
    @bear_eater254 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "That's father"😂😂. I knew i had seen him somewhere i just couldn't remember.😅

  • @GreyWasteTim
    @GreyWasteTim 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It'd be pretty neat if Laenor and Qarl's end comes at the hands of a flamboyant purple pirate, making for that to be their introduction. It was the 2 of them who brought it up in Season 1.

    • @last7509
      @last7509 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      sounds likely. they come back and die. which releases the dragon for when jace calls for the seeds....

  • @yogadork_namaste
    @yogadork_namaste 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think when seasmoke gets claimed is when rhaenyra realizes that leanor has passed away. We really dont need any more than that to assume he has died. At least he got a few years to be free over in essos!

  • @molleh3180
    @molleh3180 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I can't wait to see Silverwing!

  • @lonewizzy
    @lonewizzy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Alyssa died 17 years before Baelon did. It'd make sense if he wasn't celibate after she passed

    • @MARKCRASTO
      @MARKCRASTO 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ikr! The sheer stupidity of these narrators is craazy.

  • @hinakhodiyara7883
    @hinakhodiyara7883 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome video. Thanks David.

  • @HaldirMark
    @HaldirMark 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    NGL Bro, I actively disliked this new tune you gave us (maybe immaturely because I fw the other two so hard) but it's DEFINITELY growing on me. I've had to restart this vid a few times (ADHD distractions) and the last time, I found myself bobbing along vigorously to the intro music. Ya got me with ya bright wizardry!

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      music is weird like that sometimes thanks for not hating it haha

    • @HaldirMark
      @HaldirMark 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DavidLightbringer Shiiiet thanks for making it. We got 3 bangers now.

  • @rashelleobey7626
    @rashelleobey7626 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Loyal Addam 😢😢

  • @ginao6810
    @ginao6810 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like the show’s choice to make foils of Ulf and Hugh.
    Ulf is a lazy, honour-less, craven, hedonist only looking out for himself. Hugh is a hardworking family man. He feels honour bound to contribute to the war effort for his king, while trying provide for and protect his beloved wife and daughter.
    Two very different motivations for pursuing their dragon seed claims. Also two different POV within the Kingslanding small folk. There not much point to including both characters if they serve the same POV with the same motivations.
    It also makes for a more tragic arcs for Hugh if they follow the book path. If you’re looking for a potential classical chivalrous king of medieval lore, a hardworking family man of honour is a prime candidate; like a low born Ned Stark. George loves to take these classical tropes and turn them on their head. I could see Hugh becoming a honourable man corrupted by power, or perhaps his vengeance for his lost family drives him down a dark path.

  • @bennyinict8768
    @bennyinict8768 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another banger Lightbringer!

  • @Darksun93
    @Darksun93 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    loved this video. I'm so looking forward to see more of the dragon seeds in the show. To see how the show adapts these moments.

  • @daxmommy
    @daxmommy 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely loving the new intro 🎉🎉🎉

  • @HowAboutNo_426
    @HowAboutNo_426 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Been waiting on this one. Lets do it!🎉

  • @johnbuxton4484
    @johnbuxton4484 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I can't wait for Bold Jon Roxton

  • @dellcoc
    @dellcoc 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Are they going to omit Nettles from the show? That would be a huge mistake.

  • @scottregister200
    @scottregister200 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Best Dragonseed video ive seen 💪

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    0:50 which is why i'm excited to see how they're adapted for television. One of the strengths both GOT and HOTD have are shooting scenes that feel like POV chapters. Perfect for a large ensemble cast, especially with multiple dragonseeds now in the mix!
    4:56 the way Ulf immediately pivots to "hail to the king!" mode after his storytelling had me rolling. Also very effecient character building

  • @Phoenixonfire31
    @Phoenixonfire31 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yesss thank you for making this can’t wait to listen.. I’m rusty on my the reading but I just found my copy funnily enough

  • @konstantinospetrakos2536
    @konstantinospetrakos2536 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This intro is pumping me up making me move around on my chair makes me spinn!

  • @adababs
    @adababs 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I feel like they've addressed the Laenor thing as much as they're going to address it - Rhaenyra said Seasmoke had been restless recently and then she stops and looks said - I took that to mean she must have realized Seasmoke was restless because he felt that Laenor had died. It was incredibly subtle but for those paying attention, it seemed like enough. Though, knowing the writers, they may beat us over the head with it later on in whatever episode Addam claims him (I'm guessing that's what the beach scene is and Nyra will monologue or something).

  • @SRosenberg203
    @SRosenberg203 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    9:35 Didn't Otto say that Hobart Hightower was his nephew last episode? I think his older brother has died, in the show at least, and his nephew rules in Oldotwn. Though if they named the nephew Hobart in the show, it seems like maybe they're combining him with Ormund, who gets killed in the book leading to Hobart taking over?
    13:00 I kinda love Hugh as being on Team Smallfolk too. And that's not even super incongruous with his book depiction, because if he was truly advocating for peasant revolt, the Citadel would have every reason to malign him in their sources since he challenges the status quo. That's why it's totally reasonable for Alicent and Rhaenyra to be much more sympathetic than the book depicts them to be, since neither Maesters nor Septons are known for having particularly high opinions of women as a group.

  • @rena7123
    @rena7123 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Coffee and Tea Time in Europe ☕🍰✨🐲

  • @darksister96
    @darksister96 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! 👏Cant wait for your Dragon dream video💚

  • @d.m.collins1501
    @d.m.collins1501 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OMG Ertac Altinoz's art of Jon Roxton slipping in Hugh Hammer's entrails is more fun than a fireworks display! I'm feelin' the same gory glory as I did watching Evil Dead II.

  • @Nicholas_Chen_
    @Nicholas_Chen_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I find it interesting Hugh seems to be portrayed as sympathetic and kinda lovable. Very curious change to the character.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I'm always in favor of more perspectives from the small folk, and this story has so many nasty people why not make something a little different? or maybe he'll have some crazy villain origin story when his family dies

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      it's bound to be interesting in the actor has a lot of presence

    • @captainziggy82
      @captainziggy82 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same, looking forward to his character arc

    • @thechroniccinephile4824
      @thechroniccinephile4824 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Still waiting for the moment Daeron throws wine in his face.

    • @jlworrad
      @jlworrad 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There's a line in The Death Of Stalin: 'Nothing more dangerous than a weak man.' His desire for an easy life is alright, even loveable, when he's in a tavern trying to get a drink, but when you give that attitude a dragon...

  • @AshtheGreenMan
    @AshtheGreenMan 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Praise Garth

  • @namonibblonian
    @namonibblonian 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank YOU for being wonderful and friendly, and for all the hard work and amazing content!

  • @SimpleTides
    @SimpleTides 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think we will see a situation similar to Ned with Hugh's story, where they basically say he was trying to usurp the throne. It should be interesting to see his character develop!

  • @OriginalMicycle
    @OriginalMicycle 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video but just a quick note about pronunciation because I saw that you're putting in corrections. "Celtigar" has a hard C sound like "crimson", "caterpillar" and "cat" not a soft C sound like "city" and "cent".
    For reference, the Celtigars of Claw Isle are referred to by name in House of the Dragon Season 1 episode 10 at approximately the 21 minute mark by Maester Gerardys.

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent video. Hopefully Nettles will show up in S3.

  • @WhitneyAllisonGG
    @WhitneyAllisonGG 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Corlys successor also have a surviving problem as well not just being sailor.

  • @justins.9858
    @justins.9858 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I need them to work in the line, "Please Hammer don't hurt 'em."

  • @MichelMawon4982
    @MichelMawon4982 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I’d be really pissed if they don’t resolve Laynor. His parents deserve that after their loyalty to someone they think killed him.

    • @last7509
      @last7509 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      bet he reappears after next episode....

    • @MichelMawon4982
      @MichelMawon4982 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@last7509 I really hope so, even if only to resolve it. I want his mom to see him.

  • @donjuan9602
    @donjuan9602 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That intro rocks

  • @yensid4294
    @yensid4294 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like the idea of Dragon Dreams coming from the dragons themselves. Both Bran & Jon had very symbolic visions (wolf dreams) & it would make sense that a dragon communicating telepathically would be similar since animals don't have language the way humans do. Dream Logic is symbolic not literal. Niiiice. 👍

  • @AntoineVello
    @AntoineVello 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I don't like the idea that Corlys cheated on Rhaenys. They were Madly in love. Only competent couple on the show. Only adults in the room.
    While I don't like the idea that House Velaryon is now a dragonriding house because it means other Velaryons should've gone missing trying to claim Vhagar among other things.
    I at least prefer the idea that before Corlys and Rhaenys were married that Corlys had them.
    In all truthfulness I think that Addam is Laenor's son, as Laenor hints he's been with women before to Rhaenyra and that's how he knows he's gay. But the actors are on the older side for them to be going that way.

    • @rudzanimunyai2090
      @rudzanimunyai2090 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They both have same mother, the writers can’t make us believe that she gave birth to sons from Father and Son. Secondly, the actors they cast are too old to be from Leanor’s. Lastly but most importantly for you, it’s best to believe he had them before he married Rhaenys.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      when I read the books I thought maybe they were Laenor trying to "go straight" and then in season 1 that seemed hinted at, but they are way too old. They gotta be Corlys's

    • @rudzanimunyai2090
      @rudzanimunyai2090 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DavidLightbringer Totally 💯 he did say that he doesn’t like goose very well 😃

    • @tstone9151
      @tstone9151 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of course he cheated man. what’s wrong with males in this generation? Men are like dandelions, we spread our seed far and wide, even when we love someone. Y’all don’t live in the real world, you probably never been in danger or never gotten punched in the face. Wake up

  • @sommer8337
    @sommer8337 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I just opened up TH-cam for the first time today and, imagine my utter joy when my notifications said ‘David Lightbringer has released a new video!’ Woohoo!I haven’t even begun watching the video yet, but I had to leave a comment because I am SO excited to hear your take on the Dragonseeds on HOTD! Let’s goooooooooo!

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      this is a fun one

    • @sommer8337
      @sommer8337 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DavidLightbringer Loved it!

  • @Airhead348
    @Airhead348 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nettles will be there. They showed her breifly in one of the bar scenes. The camera was behind her as she walked in. It looked like thecsame girl from season 1 who worked for Miseria.

  • @fmc7774
    @fmc7774 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can see them having Alys Rivers coming up with the Hammer prophecy, she tells Daemon and then Daemon tells Rhaenyra/the dragon seeds after meeting up with them at Kingslanding.

  • @sharonkaysnowton
    @sharonkaysnowton 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yeah- Corlys is the father of Addam and Alyn of Hull, I have no doubts. We all know his son with his wife (she who was never queen) favored men and not women. But, his daddy??? Oh yeah- Corlys likes the women. Those Velaryons!!! Gotta love em. Also, I want to know who will play the character of Nettles??? I can't wait!!!

  • @ZendikarMage42750
    @ZendikarMage42750 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If Hugh actually was team smallfolk in the book cannon, I could definitely see the Maesters going out of their way to slander him

  • @kevonthompson4047
    @kevonthompson4047 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    intro scared me out of my sleep one time 😭

  • @jackashmore
    @jackashmore 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like to think Allyn being Corlys bastard now could mean that cannibal and him are bonded making his funeral epic

  • @pankratos5017
    @pankratos5017 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1:26 small correction: Aegon and his sisters didn't conquer all of Westeros. They failed to conquer Dorne.

  • @cariocaemfuria3946
    @cariocaemfuria3946 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They already kind of explained what happened to Laenor. On episode 3, Seasmoke is restless like he never was before according to Rhaenyra. To me this is pretty clear "oh, Laenor died offscreen".

    • @last7509
      @last7509 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      no point in keeping an actor alive on the show for no reason when the moment actually called for him to die....

    • @cariocaemfuria3946
      @cariocaemfuria3946 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@last7509 You mean they should've killed him onscreen? Not sure, I actually like what they did considering how far they went to stablish that Rhaenyra is a "good" people. If they made her as ambitious as the rest of the lot, like in the book, then maybe. But THIS Rhaenyra they've stablished woudn't do it.

  • @b0baf00t8
    @b0baf00t8 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Praise Garth. I was getting bored at work.

  • @aecides3203
    @aecides3203 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Dragonseed stuff's really interesting (obviously) but I'd love to hear your theories about the Tavern Wench (Dana? Diana?) who flinches and takes a deep breath when Ulf slaps her backside - she's the serving girl that Aegon uh...treated in a way which caused Alicent to give her a bag of coin and send her away.
    This raises a number of questions to me -
    1. What happened to the coin? The bag, even if it's silver not gold, looked like enough for her to live off for a very long time as a peasant, if not buy the tavern outright (and she doesn't seem like the owner). The easy answer is she was robbed, but there are a lot of more interesting answers.
    2. Why is she working in a Tavern Aegon seems to frequent? It seems like, even if she needed a job for whatever reason, she'd look elsewhere the first time her attacker came in given that she (entirely understandably) doesn't seem to have 'gotten over it' judging by her controlled trauma reaction to being touched from behind.
    3. Why did she serve him? Again, even if she's the tavern owner, or stuck working there, surely someone else would've been willing to give the King his drinks?
    Talking about it with my friend, we came up with two main possibilities - that, despite how it appears, she's the owner/bought it for her family and has just had to learn to tolerate the King coming in because it's not like she can ban him.
    Or that she was recruited by Alicent's handmaid into the White Worm's network, and now works in the Tavern the nobles like to slum it in as an asset who will recognise important people from the palace and know how to act in a way that sets them at ease and doesn't draw attention.

  • @jackcarterful
    @jackcarterful 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks.

  • @redladie8528
    @redladie8528 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It'd be awesome to see the isle of faces

  • @timmyb7734
    @timmyb7734 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I say bring on the rando's, nice to see they have introduced some of the seeds, but will we see any or many of the other, less fortunate dragonseeds?

  • @cityslacker6221
    @cityslacker6221 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    always nice to see Frank the Tank on his way to Home Depot or Bed Bath and Beyond

  • @foxsquad6992
    @foxsquad6992 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I just don’t understand why the writers would go out of the way to change up from the book and NOT kill off Laenor, only to kill him offscreen. What would be the point of that?

    • @TubiTuesdays
      @TubiTuesdays 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      To make Rhae seem not as bloodthirsty

    • @Covers-and-Commentary
      @Covers-and-Commentary 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Because the book is not the truest account. The show is. The book is told from 3 perspectives its rumor and speculation with truth sprinkled in

    • @mouse3872
      @mouse3872 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@Covers-and-Commentary HOTD is ONLY fully canon to GOT. There are somethings that can be carried over due to not conflicting with stuff like the Song of Ice and Fire Prophecy from Aegon. BUT there are many things from the show that completely don't match up with book canon. Fire and Blood isn't supposed to be "untrue" Fire and Blood when it comes to the Dance of Dragons is a "choose your own adventure" book. Fire and Blood gives you 2 to 3 versions of what could have happened and it lets the reader choose. In theory you could have one reader who interprets Fire and Blood with Daemon being a faithful and mostly honorable member of House Targaryen and another reader who interprets Fire and Blood with Daemon being completely and fully evil.

    • @Darkness-ie2yl
      @Darkness-ie2yl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly. This is why I believe he will turn up after hearing what happens to his mom and do something ill-advised and then perish

    • @HeyJudeDontBeSad
      @HeyJudeDontBeSad 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      IMO they didn't want us to hate Team Black too early in the show so they let him live. 🤷🏼

  • @tracymetherell8744
    @tracymetherell8744 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Holding out hope for my girl Nettles

    • @last7509
      @last7509 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      have no fear. season 3 for sure. they were together at harrenhal so the historians couldn't have gotten that part wrong.

  • @varanaut1308
    @varanaut1308 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mark my words, an unexpected dragon seed or targ will survive the dance with dragon in tow.

  • @AmorCorona5
    @AmorCorona5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This got me thinking, wasn't the Grey king a new king who arose when the hammer supposedly slayed a water dragon? 🤔

  • @michaelnewman4649
    @michaelnewman4649 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Laenor must have really disliked the life of royalty, because I don’t think I could give up a bond with such a beautiful beast to live a life of anonymity

  • @efrent-vr3bm
    @efrent-vr3bm 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think the show is going to switch Hugh and Ulf's stories. "We should be lords" is something show Hugh would say. "We should be kings" that's something show Ulf would say

    • @Darkness-ie2yl
      @Darkness-ie2yl 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I bet if you had an unlimited ammo helicopter in medieval England, you probably would want to rule the world too 😂

  • @AussBosss
    @AussBosss 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    12:50 If ya smellllllllalalala, what the Ro, oh, that’s just the sewage from King’s Landing.

  • @HeyJudeDontBeSad
    @HeyJudeDontBeSad 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love the thought of Hugh being team smallfolk. Maybe he never really goes mad but the writers make him the villain bc they didn't want team smallfolk to get any crazy ideas in the future? Who knows, but we do know historians control how we remember history.

  • @julia-faithwill4211
    @julia-faithwill4211 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do believe she’s been cast because I saw a picture of her on set with the other dragon seeds, so hopefully we see her towards the end of the season 😭

  • @captainziggy82
    @captainziggy82 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think Orphanmaker is recovered by lord Peake no? Either way fantastic video yo

    • @gwapolindo8944
      @gwapolindo8944 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes I think so as well. Read that part yesterday.

  • @Magmafrost13
    @Magmafrost13 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly Laenor dying offscreen was my assumption from the moment he was revealed to have survived. He was already set up as having an insatiable lust for battle, it would if anything be weird if he _didnt_ go join some sellsword company in Essos and die in battle

  • @IllinoisStrider
    @IllinoisStrider 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the spoiler thumbnails

  • @pendragonsxskywalkers9518
    @pendragonsxskywalkers9518 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Corlys most likely fathered Hull boys during his marriage - if it was before, there would be no need to hide them. Also, actors are younger than Laenor currently is (though, of this show love to cast younger actors to play people much older - look at Aemond, Aegon, Helaena, Alicent and Mysaria).

  • @KarotKake
    @KarotKake 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    YAY! 🖤

  • @Evrgreens11
    @Evrgreens11 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A lot of the bad deeds accounted to Hugh will probably be done by Ulf who lies about his name in some manner to get Hugh to catch the blame (or something like that)

  • @ACPritchard
    @ACPritchard วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nettles still not cast? Child of the forest confirmed. (cant get the theory out of my head haha)

  • @BlackstreetBoys2Men
    @BlackstreetBoys2Men 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The show is low key turning me into a high hammer supporter and I’m okay with that

  • @MrBoboiscool
    @MrBoboiscool 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hugh as champion of the people and then the 'history' bweing a smear campaign from elistist monmarchists would eb top tier.

  • @ropemuse
    @ropemuse 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having just rewatched s1 again after the dragon seeds, I believe Ulf may have been the guy Rhaenyra bumps into that tells her to piss off boy whilst she's out on the town with Daemon... anyone else?

  • @melissagreye8445
    @melissagreye8445 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In episode 3 of House of the Dragon, Rhaenyra said that Seasmoke had become restless lately and she didn't know why. Maybe Laenor has died over in Essos.

  • @TheAshlynnnation
    @TheAshlynnnation 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As far as seasmokes dragon bond being broken while his rider is “still alive” puzzles me….. when rheyneara hears the mistress of whispers say “maybe he’s lonely” … that was a clear indication to me of the show addressing that leynor died. The look on rheynearas face was one of loss and immediate acceptance that her ex husband was now dead.

  • @kylecedrickgraciano9743
    @kylecedrickgraciano9743 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing I'm waiting atleast for the show is common people on dragonstone because since S1 till now they still haven't shown people living in the island besides the Royals. I wanna see houses/fishing villages near the coast.

  • @jerome9895
    @jerome9895 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey I watched a lot of your video and Im not sur if you have ever speak on potential dragon sees in the GoT timeline. Do you think that there are remaining dragon seed in the présente timeline ? Jérôme from France

    • @Lumistrocity
      @Lumistrocity 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There is one in kingslanding Rennifer Longwaters (oakenfist cheated on his targaryen wife with her targaryen neice, and started this line)

    • @jerome9895
      @jerome9895 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@LumistrocityThanks. Could be interesting for the futur plotline

  • @kevindepuy5390
    @kevindepuy5390 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Adam and Allyns age are basically because HBO reuses actors that appear in their other shows. Nothing they can do except age up the characters in order to reuse the actors. It is what it is.

  • @gururaven
    @gururaven 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With Nettles not being cast, maybe they change the source material and Allan claims sheepstealer and mixes the two book characters into one?

  • @Walkth15way
    @Walkth15way 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Doesn't Orphan Maker show up again later when house Peake launch their palace coup?