Between this and Venom Deathtrap, I’m loving the ongoing saga of Thunderball being the most competent villain around being forced to work with absolute morons.
Before there was Red Hood, before there was The Winter Solider, there was Midnight. P.S. The Secret Empire just makes me wish there was an “The Office” style tv show, portraying how incompetent they all are.
The whole Aunt May watching wrestling thing reminds me of stories that my dad told me about my grandma screaming and swearing at the TV while watching wresting. She was livid when Roddy Piper hit Jimmy Snuka with the coconut 😆
Man crazy to think I used to listen to you guys pre-Comicpop while feeding my newborn daughter in the middle of the night, and now she's turning 7 and y'all are still talking on a couch and it's great. Thanks for the years of fun listening gents (and Tiffany).
This has some of the funniest bits that back issues has ever had. Moonknight telling peter parker he’s being cycled is the best thing this book has to offer
Me every time Sal bashes Sleepwalker: Hides my complete collection in shame...but at least my complete Darkhawk run is safe Ethan: What DID happen to Darkhawk? Sal: Nothing good... Me: GOD DAMN IT!
43:27-Ben: “What money?” Sal: “The sex money!” Amazing how I’ve been watching this show for years now and it always me with a gut buster of a line I never would have thought I’d hear in a million years.
Also remember Bagley himself a little annoyed as he was just coming off a big team book of New Warriors, had hoped to have a break with a solo hero like Spider-Man...and then his first big story on ASM is a multiple character team-up that's a sequel to a story from another character's book.
I have never heard of this story before especially with Spider-Man teaming up with moon knight punisher and darkhawk because this team up sounds really awesome and tons of fun.
Sounds that way, execution not as good. But, as they said, it's fun to have a six issue storyline that is a lot more action than guys standing around talking for most of an issue.
@@Anynom true on paper this sounded like a cool idea but execution wise like you said this sounded like a complete and utter mess which is a shame because all 4 of these characters really awesome and deserve a way better team up story then this but oh well at least like you said it has action then guys standing around and talking for most of this team up story.
@@TevyaSmolka this may sound like a hot take- but most 90s Spider-man comics is pretty good, even the Clone Saga had a couple of good stories. Honestly, its only gets real bad when John Byrne arrives & does the Gathering of Five/Final Chapter storyline that leads into the dreadful 1999 relaunch.
@@94evangelion Indeed and honestly in my opinion I am one of the few people who actually maintained the 90's clone saga did actually have some good stories especially with Peter parker and Mary jane being married and her becoming pregnant with there child little mayday parker spider-girl made me so happy and I was excited to see them become parents in the future, sadly unfortnately we all know how that went badly with little mayday parker getting kidnapped by Norman Osborn and the gather of five story like you said being the final nail in the coffin for Peter parker and Mary Jane's child Mayday parker and her getting killed and replace for aunt may who no one wanted to come back to life myself included, which lead to the terrible awful 1999 relaunch of Spider-Man which was just garbage on so many levels it ain't even funny.
@@TevyaSmolka what are your thoughts on Defalco's original plan for the Gathering of Five?= where Baby May gets rescued & Norman Osborn is truly killed off once & for all. In Defalco's view, he thought this was the best way to salvage the damage left behind by the clone saga
As somebody who went on an insane quest to read all of Amazing Spider-Man (currently around issue 500 I think? Haven't continued in a bit) it's always fun to see you bring up random stories nobody talks about from there.
Agreed. And wait you started at issue 1 onward? Super amazing feat. I intend to read every Spidey titled comic in my lifetime if possible. Amazing, Web Of, Spectacular, Sensational, Self-titled, Ultimate anyhow.
@@MrFaceNumeroUno every spider-man appearance as well or only the ones that Spidey titled in? Will you be reading Marvel Teamup as it was basically a spider-man book?
Spider-Man stories are the best on this channel. Especially the older ones. You can feel the reverence (or deteste) Sal has for Spidey stories and its alot of fun
Hello. Thank you Comic Pop for introducing me to even more obscure Marvel characters that I now wish were given more chances to do stuff like the Seekers.
34:09 Midnight should've said "I was good once until that accursed Moon Knight ruined my life", maybe then he'd be popular. Alternatively, he could say that he'll eat brains, that'll make the kids love him!
The spider-knights. I'm loving the epic collections because it bundles tales up together in order of story rather than release. I'm currently smashing out vol 1 of doc strange
This was back when I was buying Marvel comics, and up until like a couple of years ago I never got the first part of this story...I finally got it in trade and I will enjoy my 90s comics gosh durn it to heck. Also, Cardiac, the doctor who will kill you, for medicine, is 90s exemplified.
This was the funniest episode in a little bit. And you guys have had some funny episodes lately! That ending had me dying!!! "S for Seekers! Come on guys!"
Man, I miss the old Marvel "bi-weekly summer stories" they'd do. A few good ones but of course some rough ones too yet felt fun to have two issues a month back when that was rare.
One of the first major appearances of the Secret Empire was in a 70s Captain America Comic. It was actually pretty cool. The guy in charge of it actually funded TV ads to make people think Captain America was evil and said head ended up getting defeated by Cap in the end. But unfortunately for Cap the Secret Empire would still go on.
this is like my sixth time putting this on, though I admit four of those its my background podcast while playing Elden Ring, which is what I'm doing now on this lovely lazy sunday off work, back issues and elden ring with a coke zero for working these gaming muscles lol
I thought you’d be able to do the Marvel team up from the 2000’s where Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Captain America and Wolverine fight the Ring Master. It’s such a good story and also includes Sleepwalker, Luke Cage, Punisher and Blade.
OMG! Someone else remembers this story! This was out in the heyday of my comic collecting. It was a huge team-up (with Spidey even saying "who's book is this anyway!?" on one cover). Also, it had Night Trasher who talked about how if he had leverage he could turn the tide of battle against a giant armored guy.
So glad you decided to cover this. After you brought this story up in an else world's exchange episode a little while back, I went back and reread it. It was the first multi-part comic story I bought for myself from a little thrift shop in my hometown. Young me was drawn in by the number of different superheroes most of which I knew nothing about on the covers with Spidey. It's not the best comic ever written but it is a fun story and I'll always associate it with the joy of discovering new comics and new characters.
Usually when You guys post a video, It’s for a well known book I haven’t read yet, but should read for context. But occasionally In the case of this video, it’s some obscure story that I actually read very recently and have vivid recollection of (and also liked) So this will be fun! Darkhawk is one of the more underrated Marvel characters in my opinion, and with 90s Nostalgia in full swing, I think the Marty Mcfly/Power Ranger gimmick would fit perfectly onscreen, even if it’s comedic.
So I'm flipping through invaders eve of destruction when I get all the way to the back "the monster hunters in the marvel universe"...and who do I happen to see but... "GORGILLA" 😂😂😂 thanks comic pop.
I think I remember Dark Hawk from some time around the annihilation series. In short, I think the crystal is supposed to overtake his mind, but his mind happens to be strong enough to withstand it. And also there are other powers that he has, which he never knew of, that other "dark hawks" taught him. Also, the other dark hawks are bad guys.
Buy this collection here! amzn.to/35Lbm6U
$100? Is there a limited print run on these epic collections?
@@kevinconleysage2659 the epic line of books are notorious for going out of print. Be patient, everything gets reprinted eventually
@@kevinconleysage2659 Marvel's terrible reprint policy makes everything a limited print run!
The whole “I’m Moon Knight. I’m gonna go kick Spider-Man’s ass for you, Peter” thing had me *dying*.
The “Hey everyone, welcome to back issues, I’m Chain! I’m Sonic! And I’m Grasp!” Was also gold
So Aunt May hated Spidey all this time because he beat Crusher in the ring?
May was a Crusher mark?! What a twist!
It all makes sense now
THAT’S CANNON
😂
"Mr. Milgrom? Al? We need you to think of plot for the next Spider-Man story ar-"
*Al Milgrom:* _"RANDOM BULL5H!T GO!!!"_
"Alright who's his girlfriend right now? Let's snap some necks people!"
"Can we make Dracula an Avenger?"
Between this and Venom Deathtrap, I’m loving the ongoing saga of Thunderball being the most competent villain around being forced to work with absolute morons.
Shit like that is what I love comics for man; these books have gem characters that you find that'll stick around with you 😭
Before there was Red Hood, before there was The Winter Solider, there was Midnight.
P.S. The Secret Empire just makes me wish there was an “The Office” style tv show, portraying how incompetent they all are.
There's a Hank Johnson agent of Hydra oneshot you should check out.
33:00 "Regular or menthol?" I haven't seen that movie in 20 years, and I can see the scene in my head with perfect clarity.
This is one of the MOST fun Back Issues in a long time. Sal should do more 90's adventures from his childhood they always make killer episodes.
The real identities of Ethan, Sal & Ben:
44:43 😮😂
YES, 90s spiderman stories always kill me😆
35:49 I've also seen a lot of them😂
44:54 GOLD🤣
The whole Aunt May watching wrestling thing reminds me of stories that my dad told me about my grandma screaming and swearing at the TV while watching wresting. She was livid when Roddy Piper hit Jimmy Snuka with the coconut 😆
"I'm Chain, I'm Grasp, and I'm Sonic" had me in fucking stitches at the end, amazing 😂
Can't not imagine Sonic The Hedgehog 😭
"No one would believe Spider-Man is being an asshole" Johnny Storm remembering 1960s pre-friendship Peter: "HE'S A MENACE!"
Aunt May:
*BONE SAW IS READY*
Man crazy to think I used to listen to you guys pre-Comicpop while feeding my newborn daughter in the middle of the night, and now she's turning 7 and y'all are still talking on a couch and it's great. Thanks for the years of fun listening gents (and Tiffany).
This has some of the funniest bits that back issues has ever had. Moonknight telling peter parker he’s being cycled is the best thing this book has to offer
Me every time Sal bashes Sleepwalker: Hides my complete collection in shame...but at least my complete Darkhawk run is safe
Ethan: What DID happen to Darkhawk?
Sal: Nothing good...
Me: GOD DAMN IT!
Darkhawk is underated. I loved that run.
43:27-Ben: “What money?”
Sal: “The sex money!” Amazing how I’ve been watching this show for years now and it always me with a gut buster of a line I never would have thought I’d hear in a million years.
As a huge Darkhawk fan (there are dozens of us), it's awesome to have you look at the character! Never thought I'd see the day.
Still probably more than us Cardiac fans XD
I’m hoping they do something in the future with dark hawk, have a lot of nostalgia with that character lol
Ahh yes, Edgeman!
Also remember Bagley himself a little annoyed as he was just coming off a big team book of New Warriors, had hoped to have a break with a solo hero like Spider-Man...and then his first big story on ASM is a multiple character team-up that's a sequel to a story from another character's book.
Bagley : Dammit I have to draw Spiderman AND some shitty characters.
“Thunderball is too good for this bullshit” is basically his whole story in the Coates Black Panther run
I've enjoyed how far Ben and Ethan comic book knowledge has come. Ben actually remembers the name of Mary Jane's soap opera secret hospital
So many great episodes to return to and re-watch. Among them this might be my favorite
Ah yes, another great episode from the usual Comicpop crew, Chain, Sonic and Grasp! Ha! Love this channel.
I have never heard of this story before especially with Spider-Man teaming up with moon knight punisher and darkhawk because this team up sounds really awesome and tons of fun.
Sounds that way, execution not as good. But, as they said, it's fun to have a six issue storyline that is a lot more action than guys standing around talking for most of an issue.
@@Anynom true on paper this sounded like a cool idea but execution wise like you said this sounded like a complete and utter mess which is a shame because all 4 of these characters really awesome and deserve a way better team up story then this but oh well at least like you said it has action then guys standing around and talking for most of this team up story.
@@TevyaSmolka this may sound like a hot take- but most 90s Spider-man comics is pretty good, even the Clone Saga had a couple of good stories. Honestly, its only gets real bad when John Byrne arrives & does the Gathering of Five/Final Chapter storyline that leads into the dreadful 1999 relaunch.
@@94evangelion Indeed and honestly in my opinion I am one of the few people who actually maintained the 90's clone saga did actually have some good stories especially with Peter parker and Mary jane being married and her becoming pregnant with there child little mayday parker spider-girl made me so happy and I was excited to see them become parents in the future, sadly unfortnately we all know how that went badly with little mayday parker getting kidnapped by Norman Osborn and the gather of five story like you said being the final nail in the coffin for Peter parker and Mary Jane's child Mayday parker and her getting killed and replace for aunt may who no one wanted to come back to life myself included, which lead to the terrible awful 1999 relaunch of Spider-Man which was just garbage on so many levels it ain't even funny.
@@TevyaSmolka what are your thoughts on Defalco's original plan for the Gathering of Five?= where Baby May gets rescued & Norman Osborn is truly killed off once & for all. In Defalco's view, he thought this was the best way to salvage the damage left behind by the clone saga
Guys, this was legit one of the funniest episodes you've ever done. Anytime you do 90s Spidey, especially team-ups, it's gold lol
Back Issues on my birthday, couldn’t ask for a better gift
Some of my very first comics that I fell in love as a kid with were random issues from this storyline, so this is a great surprise!
As somebody who went on an insane quest to read all of Amazing Spider-Man (currently around issue 500 I think? Haven't continued in a bit) it's always fun to see you bring up random stories nobody talks about from there.
How’s the binge been
Agreed. And wait you started at issue 1 onward? Super amazing feat. I intend to read every Spidey titled comic in my lifetime if possible. Amazing, Web Of, Spectacular, Sensational, Self-titled, Ultimate anyhow.
@@fragile4408 very very mixed and mostly just atrocious when I got.to the 90s haha. I am now at JMS' run though and that's been fun.
@@MrFaceNumeroUno every spider-man appearance as well or only the ones that Spidey titled in? Will you be reading Marvel Teamup as it was basically a spider-man book?
You have more willpower than I do, I didn't even finish Stan Lee's run 😭 I'll revisit it eventually
I’m amazed Sal still decided to still read comics,after first reading this story.
The Secret Empire is like an evil Codename: Kids Next Door
You and I both know that they aren’t nearly as cool as cool as the Knd.
Spider Man and his Not-So-Amazing Friends
I love the way Mark Bagley gave a heroic look to the Punisher. Athletic and really cool. Mass homicidal soldiers with PTSD have never looked better.
Spider-Man stories are the best on this channel. Especially the older ones. You can feel the reverence (or deteste) Sal has for Spidey stories and its alot of fun
Told my brother about Midnight, he lost his shit immediately. Like he can't believe that Moon Knight's sidekick is named Midnight.
Hello. Thank you Comic Pop for introducing me to even more obscure Marvel characters that I now wish were given more chances to do stuff like the Seekers.
Sal I sincerely hope you can do back issues on Jeff Lemire’s Moon Knight run
Oh yes
That would be so awesome.
@@valiantshadow89 I know right it’s such a good run and it’s my personal favorite
THERE ARE MORE PANELS TO THE DRACULA "Where's my money" ONE?! I had no idea!
Spider-Man and Moon Knight oddly make a really fun duo. Also, Yay, Mark Bagely!
This is peak comic books in my eyes really takes me back.
Hey... Those ninjas are Tiffany's magic ninjas. Yup, magic ninja henchmen... 😂
The moon knight thinking mary jane is cheating on peter with spider-man bit i feel like would kill as a short😂 great episode!
44:58
The Seekers bit had me rolling.
34:09 Midnight should've said "I was good once until that accursed Moon Knight ruined my life", maybe then he'd be popular. Alternatively, he could say that he'll eat brains, that'll make the kids love him!
Seeing everyones different take on a comic is nice! Always love watching these guys! Cheers! 🤘🤘🤘
The spider-knights.
I'm loving the epic collections because it bundles tales up together in order of story rather than release. I'm currently smashing out vol 1 of doc strange
This was back when I was buying Marvel comics, and up until like a couple of years ago I never got the first part of this story...I finally got it in trade and I will enjoy my 90s comics gosh durn it to heck. Also, Cardiac, the doctor who will kill you, for medicine, is 90s exemplified.
This was the funniest episode in a little bit. And you guys have had some funny episodes lately! That ending had me dying!!! "S for Seekers! Come on guys!"
Me: Where is my goddamn Beta Ray Bill episode
Sal: YOU'LL GET YOUR BETA RAY BILL WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!!
Cardiac was pretty cool in Superior Spidey if I remember correctly
The whole episode was hilarious, but I gotta give a special thank you for those last 5 minutes. They had me laughing nonstop!
Moon lighting as moon knight lolol
Man, I miss the old Marvel "bi-weekly summer stories" they'd do. A few good ones but of course some rough ones too yet felt fun to have two issues a month back when that was rare.
One of the first major appearances of the Secret Empire was in a 70s Captain America Comic. It was actually pretty cool. The guy in charge of it actually funded TV ads to make people think Captain America was evil and said head ended up getting defeated by Cap in the end. But unfortunately for Cap the Secret Empire would still go on.
As much as I would have loved to see you or Tiffany host an episode of moon knight by Jeff lemire I really do love these silly ass stories
This episode of Back Issues fecking awesome , the Seekers bit had me in stitches lol.
this is like my sixth time putting this on, though I admit four of those its my background podcast while playing Elden Ring, which is what I'm doing now on this lovely lazy sunday off work, back issues and elden ring with a coke zero for working these gaming muscles lol
I thought you’d be able to do the Marvel team up from the 2000’s where Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Captain America and Wolverine fight the Ring Master. It’s such a good story and also includes Sleepwalker, Luke Cage, Punisher and Blade.
Oh hey look its my favorite superhero and moon themed Batman. Can't wait. Hopefully one day, we will have the Lemire run covered someday.
I can't breathe at "punching wood"
This makes me want a What If where Peter stays a wrestler and Aunt May is his unknowing biggest fan.
The hair apparent 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was absolutely hilarious. What a joy ride! Definitely a new back issues classic. Thanks Comicpop team!
I need more just for this amazing commentary
The reason why they want to turn everyone into cyborgs is because it was about the same time as Terminator 2. I mean remember Cyborg Superman?
I would unironically love a Cardiac movie
Ben.
Your joke at 1:02:20 made me laugh and my drink came out my nose.
You should be proud.
This is one of the funniest episodes of back issues ever
I love when ultimate spidey teamed up with moon knight and a ton of other street level guys that was a mess but fun
(48:52) Already more sense than Brother Eye in Futures End.
I wish the show hadn't leaned so far into Khonshu and the Egyptian stuff so soon. I love seeing Moon Knight at street level.
I think this is my favorite back issues of all time.
OMG! Someone else remembers this story! This was out in the heyday of my comic collecting. It was a huge team-up (with Spidey even saying "who's book is this anyway!?" on one cover).
Also, it had Night Trasher who talked about how if he had leverage he could turn the tide of battle against a giant armored guy.
I remember being super pschyed month to month when this came out. When my LCS had this in my in-box I was so stoked.
I think back in the early days of hydra that the secret empire and aim were subdivisions that broke off to do their own thing.
Can't wait to watch this, I had most of this run and loved it growing up!
57:54 dad joke or sopranos reference, either way, gold
Been waiting for this all day, my favorite comic arc!
This is where the “Dracula you nerd, where’s my money?” Originated from. He doesn’t say it but the panel came from this lol.
Did you miss the part where we showed it, narrate it and discuss it?
So glad you decided to cover this. After you brought this story up in an else world's exchange episode a little while back, I went back and reread it. It was the first multi-part comic story I bought for myself from a little thrift shop in my hometown. Young me was drawn in by the number of different superheroes most of which I knew nothing about on the covers with Spidey. It's not the best comic ever written but it is a fun story and I'll always associate it with the joy of discovering new comics and new characters.
Usually when You guys post a video,
It’s for a well known book I haven’t read yet, but should read for context.
But occasionally In the case of this video, it’s some obscure story that I actually read very recently and have vivid recollection of
(and also liked)
So this will be fun!
Darkhawk is one of the more underrated Marvel characters in my opinion, and with 90s Nostalgia in full swing, I think the Marty Mcfly/Power Ranger gimmick would fit perfectly onscreen, even if it’s comedic.
I collected this whole event when I was a kid..I remember it fondly..I loved darkhawk
1:25:21 Cosmic Ghost Rider feels nostalgic and gets the gang together for a space adventure
Nova: “I’ve been to space what can you guys offer me?”
“We have a Marvel VS Capcom 2 cabinet”
Nova: “Where do I sign?”
This episode was awesome and would kill to see this team again!
Wow, this brings me back! I read this whole story when I was a kid. It may not be objectively good, but there's some strong nostalgia there.
I LOVED this episode!!! Hilarious!!!
This was such a hilarious episode!
The outro is absolutely hilarious!
So I'm flipping through invaders eve of destruction when I get all the way to the back "the monster hunters in the marvel universe"...and who do I happen to see but... "GORGILLA" 😂😂😂 thanks comic pop.
I bought this as it was coming out. It has honestly never crossed my mind that anyone would ever talk about this.
Aah yes when Spidey's mask was majority his eyes. That's the Spidey I grew up on. I need me some ninjas.
This was the 1st spiderman comic I read, that led me to be a fan.
I think I remember Dark Hawk from some time around the annihilation series. In short, I think the crystal is supposed to overtake his mind, but his mind happens to be strong enough to withstand it. And also there are other powers that he has, which he never knew of, that other "dark hawks" taught him. Also, the other dark hawks are bad guys.
Sal talking about 90s comics nonsense is my favorite comic book content on TH-cam by far.
I had two issues of this when I was a kid. This is one of my favorite recent episodes now. Lmao.
Man you guys were on fire this episode it's one of the goats
1:22:51 absolutely mad wheeze 😂👌
I bought the collection of individual issues for this (not a TPB) at a grocery store.
I loved this run.
That commentary was amazing!
Such a great episode