Hey guys sorry if I seem a lil tired / out of it in this video. It's because I am, indeed, very tired. Have been battling this sort of cold / virus for the last week or so! All good, I ain't about to NOT be a degenerate on league start ! I'll be seeing you all then, best of luck!
Why would you go for essences and other mecanics first wouldnt havng kirac and other map nodes better first to complete the atlas? or is it just better to gain while you complete?
@@unknownbystander7812 you do grab shaping the mountains very early and quite frankly you could grab shaping the seas if you feel like your map sustain is lacking, personally last league I didn't get ANY of the map sustain nodes early on and I never really had issues progressing my atlas. Maybe I got lucky but overall if you utilize your master missions and kirac missions to rebuy his full vendor reset, you should be fine! Again though, feel free to grab shaping the seas and removing it later on, you can path through the left side early to get access to it right after the essences.
Hey matt would you not classify a deli mirror as zero-time? I planned almost your tree exactly haha, but picking up a few deli nodes, including the +3 rewards. I think hitting 5-3-1 deli rewards in white-yellows wont be hard for most builds.
@@bradbrad090 the thing about deli mirror is that, if not invested into, they suck. you'll be lucky to come out with 10-15 sim splinters and probably nothing else. To make deli good you need to invest in juicing it heavily and that's simply not really league start viable
Wandering Path do have one particular use though that isn't related to a mapping strategy. Since the keystone for Uber Cortex requires taking the Vivid Memories notable which can be really dangerous, if your build can't handle that you can just turn off notables with Wandering Path.
It will block them from dropping IF they were to drop the non-favorited, yes. But since you are dropping the favorited map like 80% of the time, it might actually be beneficial, especially for things like conq maps where layouts can make a big difference in price. Idk about uniques though, that would be odd?
@@pathofmatth Grimro had a "mini QA" and when he asked GGG, I qote: "If I take singular focus keystone will it convert unique, guardian, elder and sirus maps that are not my favourite into currency" And the anwser GGG gave was "Yep" Going by that info, I guess cortex, forge of the Phoenix, Lair of Hydra, Pit of Chimera and Maze of the Minotaur wouldn't drop. Unless the four shaper guardian maps don't count as "map drops".
@@pathofmatth Shaper Guardians have their own unique layout and thus can't be favorited. Same for synth maps. And any unique which has a layout that you haven't favorited wont drop as maps. This has been confirmed by Bex. This fact kills the Keystone and will hopefully be adressed in the future.
I think wandering path is great for generating maps. 100% adjacent map drop, 37% chance to duplicate, not including other things. Pick a map like strand, jungle valley, atoll, or something, you can print hundreds of t16 maps. Then switch your tree into farming mode. I think people underestimate how valuable it is to have guaranteed specific map drop. Just like how before 3.17 no body realized ‘boss able to drop adjacent map’ nodes are so important
14:30 - for all we know there will be an outlet for alterations - maybe it is the best strategy to reroll magic items with alts and regal them to increase the chance that the mutation hits modifiers we want. I believe the last time alts were unreasonably priced was in Synthesis? Anyway - this might be one of the crafting leagues where you want the basic currency part from that node.
Feeling a little anxious about my build this time. It feels like most of the new stuff rewards you only if you have a giga-powered character that can actually deal with 200% Feared or Uber-bosses in general. I wouldn't mind if it just took some time to get there, but from my experience, the only thing getting me there would be a Mageblood.
I'm so hyped for this league. Barely played Scourge, skipped the last one and now it's like christmas for me to play POE again! You are a big part of this hype for me, thanks for your great content!
Great guide once again. I was thinking of doing about the same mapping strategy - only difference i might be cutting on heist (cuz its a little bit too many nodes for little return) for strongboxes (operative strongboxes are just too insane) and maybe add in shrines (to use the gull) and some extra map sustain nodes.
Thank god ggg add this map tree into game.. Which make a dynamic change to the game so that casual player without investment also can farm the content that they prefer.
For the singular focus, since the drops are dynamic, the voidstone trick definitely is worth it.......because if you will indeed drop just a handfull of redmaps with all your voidstones.......if yellow and white maps are possible to drop........you will drop a shit ton of them, you will drop really a lot of very low tier maps.
What is the chance of a flicker strike guide in the future 👀 Flicker strike is my absolute favorite skill in the game and I have attempted every single league I have played to very little avail. It seems like no matter which way you slice it, it is very expensive to get it to be strong enough in high tiers maps! And your guides are the bomb. Anyway love the content man. Great work!
Fun fact the only build I have ever been able to make it to end game bosses with was your most recent Seismic Trap build! You posted it, it looked interesting and I tried it before the league ended invested like 8ex into it and was able to easily get all the way to pinnacle bosses, first time ever. Thank you!
Be careful with Singular Focus! This node also culls all your non-favorite guardian map drops and also the shaper guardian maps. unique maps should be fine. I'm not sure about synth maps. Grimro confirmed that with GGG in a Q&A video.
@@ElvianEmpire could be. i always thought unique maps were unique items and not maps. that's why they are not reserved for the instance owner in party play. but maybe they changed that to comply with the idea of that keystone.
I have an interesting idea for the Atlas tree and I wanted to run it by you! Could you in theory map a mapping character with low investment that speed clears low tier maps, while taking Shadow Shaping & Singular Focus alongside Wandering Path? The idea is that you grab every small node on the tree as you progress, and can even grab other things like deli chance etc. You're looking to clear the whole map to get all the maps to drop as that extra currency from Singular Focus. Now I made the tree up and with the 100% increase from Wandering Path, you get some cool things like "37% chance to duplicate maps (currency), 140% chance for one monster to drop an additional connected map (currency), and 30% increased effect of modifiers on the map (quant). Now I'm very small brain, but you have the giga brain that can think it through probably more than myself. I'm just curious your thoughts haha. Cheers!
I still want to know how the don't see keystones affect fortune favors the brave. Like, would you still get the option? Would you just get nothing if it lands on an option? Or does it reduce the overall pool of options? The most common thought right now seems to be that it would just give dead nodes.
So “fragments” in Stream of Conscious includes scarabs and sextants? Delirium orbs? I thought it was just actual fragments (like midnight)? EDIT: I guess everything that can be fragment affinity into the fragments stashtab, so it would include: general, breach, scarab, maven/eldritch
Regarding stream of conciousness, what do you mean with exped strategy? Since when are scarabs fragments? Fragments are only boss fragments which increase quant like (shaper/elder/atziri/etc.) if i'm not mistaken. So in my opinion its pretty much a must have node i would say. Singular focus also doesn't drop you any unique maps either, which means also no synth maps etc. You just gonna lose currency with this node keeping in mind that pretty much every high tier map is 4c+ or sth and you get an alch or wisdom scroll for it instead with this node.
I have a newbie question for you, veterans. Math here is going for Harvest - I am wondering why? I know he is going to play a single target build which is crazy for harvest but how harvest is a "click and collect your reward" mechanic since you most likely don't do it for the reward that drop from the monsters right? I mean if it is just to fight more monsters, Shrines or Strongboxes are better aren't they? I know I am missing something with Harvest but I don't know what.
Hey Matt good luck at league start. I would love your opinion about Ruckus and Rogue trader nodes with the league mechanic juicing them when it procs. Im thinking about doing less heist before maps just doing it for 45 mins to an hour and using Ruckus to farm chaos recipe really fast while also getting my atlas completion going. Once I am in reds and im done with chaos recipe ill respec into the atlas tree for my other strat. I feel like the last couple leagues everyone has went the early heist route so even some of the more unique rares lose their value very quickly. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks a lot
I tested it this week, and it's great for the Chaos Recipe. Exiled Will + Unrelenting Torment are nearby as well, which stack well. Seance and it's small passives are another good add, but it's a lot of travel
I don't understand how you utilize Shadow Shaping to drop only one red map I insert all watchstones, activate t16 map, put out all watchstones in my HO, enter map drops are white, yellow and other crap maps but not the one I need
Do you plan on taking the map nodes early for going through your atlas and specing out of them once you hit t16 or do you not find them worth it or needed?
use the keystone that doubles small passives but blocks notables ... Use the one that makes your favored maps more common but turns nonfavored into currency ... And then use the one that blocks favorited maps but buffs the not favorited ones ... Perfect meme Trinity
If i block for example legion and buy 1 random event for 3 chaos at the map device. Does it mean i will never get legion out of it or does it mean sometimes my 3 chaos just vanish
It will spawn legions as they are "forced" by the kirac mods, even if they are not chosen directly. Same with scarabs, will spawn those mechanics just fine. Would be interesting otherwise but I assume it will spawn them
Hmm, so for minor nodes / notables, you're saying that the sum is greater than the parts ? Since if either part is more valuable you could just discard the less valuable half. Thanks for the breakdown EDIT: My bad. I mistook Grand Design to be 100% effect too
You need to consider grand design like this remove small passives for roughly 30% packsize. the + chance for league mechanics isn't a big deal, especially if you are blocking 5+ mechanics and using scarabs/sextants/map device mods to force mechanics. it will be highly dependent on what mechanics you are going to grind, I personally think its actually really good, the loss of map sustain won't be a big deal, I saw how stupid ez sustain was without map nodes in 3.17, it is however definitely a later keystone to grab once you have an established map pool, most your passives, etc...
This is for natural red maps. So for example if City Square was a natural t15 map without voidstones then removing voidstones would be easier to get those higher tier natural maps since you are limiting the drop pool.
@@MyAMJourney they changed when they introduced the Atlas passive tree. You can reach level 16 without any stone, but if you use all 4 stones, every map on atlas will turn to lvl 16.
Heya Matth.... thinking about making a "Burning-Arrow-Elementalist" for my starter... any thoughts? i was thinking that it's a decent early gamer char that will carry me into maps extremely cheap with golems and once i've hit some currenty-jackpots im pretty much open to switch into decent witch engame builds... was hoping to see any of the other streamers suggest something like that... sadly closest i've got was some sort of "explosive-shot SO MUCH BETTER L2PNOOB" trolls... any suggestions / thoughts from your side? Cheerio
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Hey guys sorry if I seem a lil tired / out of it in this video.
It's because I am, indeed, very tired. Have been battling this sort of cold / virus for the last week or so!
All good, I ain't about to NOT be a degenerate on league start ! I'll be seeing you all then, best of luck!
Why would you go for essences and other mecanics first wouldnt havng kirac and other map nodes better first to complete the atlas? or is it just better to gain while you complete?
@@unknownbystander7812 you do grab shaping the mountains very early and quite frankly you could grab shaping the seas if you feel like your map sustain is lacking, personally last league I didn't get ANY of the map sustain nodes early on and I never really had issues progressing my atlas. Maybe I got lucky but overall if you utilize your master missions and kirac missions to rebuy his full vendor reset, you should be fine! Again though, feel free to grab shaping the seas and removing it later on, you can path through the left side early to get access to it right after the essences.
@@unknownbystander7812 Here's a change that actually makes it quite a bit better early on, not sure why I didn't realize that
tinyurl.com/mappingatlas
Hey matt would you not classify a deli mirror as zero-time? I planned almost your tree exactly haha, but picking up a few deli nodes, including the +3 rewards. I think hitting 5-3-1 deli rewards in white-yellows wont be hard for most builds.
@@bradbrad090 the thing about deli mirror is that, if not invested into, they suck. you'll be lucky to come out with 10-15 sim splinters and probably nothing else. To make deli good you need to invest in juicing it heavily and that's simply not really league start viable
Wandering Path do have one particular use though that isn't related to a mapping strategy.
Since the keystone for Uber Cortex requires taking the Vivid Memories notable which can be really dangerous, if your build can't handle that you can just turn off notables with Wandering Path.
innnnnnnnterrrrressssting! Didn't think about that!
Well doesnt Wandering Path also deactivate Keystones ?
@@GreysPrimusD Why would it though?, there is nothing on it that suggest it would.
@@Nimroc is it denoted in game as a keystone not a notable?
@@wesweeblez2190 Are you talking about Vivid Memories or Wandering Path?
It was confirmed that Singular Focus will block non-standard maps from dropping as well (cortex, shaper guardians, etc...)
It will block them from dropping IF they were to drop the non-favorited, yes. But since you are dropping the favorited map like 80% of the time, it might actually be beneficial, especially for things like conq maps where layouts can make a big difference in price. Idk about uniques though, that would be odd?
@@pathofmatth Grimro had a "mini QA" and when he asked GGG, I qote:
"If I take singular focus keystone will it convert unique, guardian, elder and sirus maps that are not my favourite into currency"
And the anwser GGG gave was
"Yep"
Going by that info, I guess cortex, forge of the Phoenix, Lair of Hydra, Pit of Chimera and Maze of the Minotaur wouldn't drop. Unless the four shaper guardian maps don't count as "map drops".
@@pathofmatth Shaper Guardians have their own unique layout and thus can't be favorited. Same for synth maps. And any unique which has a layout that you haven't favorited wont drop as maps. This has been confirmed by Bex. This fact kills the Keystone and will hopefully be adressed in the future.
@@izaruburs9389 and they won't. because they don't like you just rush the same one short map and sell all the special map.
@@cccbbbaaa110 How is that related? If you wanted to farm special maps you wouldn't take the Keystone. What's your point?
I think wandering path is great for generating maps. 100% adjacent map drop, 37% chance to duplicate, not including other things. Pick a map like strand, jungle valley, atoll, or something, you can print hundreds of t16 maps. Then switch your tree into farming mode. I think people underestimate how valuable it is to have guaranteed specific map drop. Just like how before 3.17 no body realized ‘boss able to drop adjacent map’ nodes are so important
14:30 - for all we know there will be an outlet for alterations - maybe it is the best strategy to reroll magic items with alts and regal them to increase the chance that the mutation hits modifiers we want. I believe the last time alts were unreasonably priced was in Synthesis? Anyway - this might be one of the crafting leagues where you want the basic currency part from that node.
Feeling a little anxious about my build this time. It feels like most of the new stuff rewards you only if you have a giga-powered character that can actually deal with 200% Feared or Uber-bosses in general. I wouldn't mind if it just took some time to get there, but from my experience, the only thing getting me there would be a Mageblood.
lots of strategies can get you there from maps alone. I mean even doing heists get you there.
I'm so hyped for this league. Barely played Scourge, skipped the last one and now it's like christmas for me to play POE again! You are a big part of this hype for me, thanks for your great content!
Yo you are gonna love where the game's at now - I'm excited for you!
Great guide once again. I was thinking of doing about the same mapping strategy - only difference i might be cutting on heist (cuz its a little bit too many nodes for little return) for strongboxes (operative strongboxes are just too insane) and maybe add in shrines (to use the gull) and some extra map sustain nodes.
Best of luck this league mate. Have a great start!
Well... this ages like milk. Essences are the actual new uber uber bosses they've been teasing!
Thank god ggg add this map tree into game.. Which make a dynamic change to the game so that casual player without investment also can farm the content that they prefer.
For the singular focus, since the drops are dynamic, the voidstone trick definitely is worth it.......because if you will indeed drop just a handfull of redmaps with all your voidstones.......if yellow and white maps are possible to drop........you will drop a shit ton of them, you will drop really a lot of very low tier maps.
Thank's a lot, will try those atlases
What is the chance of a flicker strike guide in the future 👀 Flicker strike is my absolute favorite skill in the game and I have attempted every single league I have played to very little avail. It seems like no matter which way you slice it, it is very expensive to get it to be strong enough in high tiers maps! And your guides are the bomb. Anyway love the content man. Great work!
Fun fact the only build I have ever been able to make it to end game bosses with was your most recent Seismic Trap build! You posted it, it looked interesting and I tried it before the league ended invested like 8ex into it and was able to easily get all the way to pinnacle bosses, first time ever. Thank you!
some great info in here, thanks!
Be careful with Singular Focus! This node also culls all your non-favorite guardian map drops and also the shaper guardian maps. unique maps should be fine. I'm not sure about synth maps. Grimro confirmed that with GGG in a Q&A video.
it will also kill uniques. it's literally your favourite map and its influenced variants. there is a post on reddit about this where GGG commented.
@@ElvianEmpire could be. i always thought unique maps were unique items and not maps. that's why they are not reserved for the instance owner in party play. but maybe they changed that to comply with the idea of that keystone.
was waiting for this, Thanks!
I have an interesting idea for the Atlas tree and I wanted to run it by you!
Could you in theory map a mapping character with low investment that speed clears low tier maps, while taking Shadow Shaping & Singular Focus alongside Wandering Path?
The idea is that you grab every small node on the tree as you progress, and can even grab other things like deli chance etc. You're looking to clear the whole map to get all the maps to drop as that extra currency from Singular Focus. Now I made the tree up and with the 100% increase from Wandering Path, you get some cool things like "37% chance to duplicate maps (currency), 140% chance for one monster to drop an additional connected map (currency), and 30% increased effect of modifiers on the map (quant).
Now I'm very small brain, but you have the giga brain that can think it through probably more than myself. I'm just curious your thoughts haha.
Cheers!
Wandering Path deactivates all other Notables and Keystones. Is Singular Focus one of those ?
@@GreysPrimusD it only deactivates notables. the description doesn't mention keystones.
@@termochila4985 you are right, i missread
Vally of Darkness adding 1 additinal mod to a Mob does that also increase the loot from it ?
I still want to know how the don't see keystones affect fortune favors the brave. Like, would you still get the option? Would you just get nothing if it lands on an option? Or does it reduce the overall pool of options? The most common thought right now seems to be that it would just give dead nodes.
Blocking mechanics blocks natural chances of that mechanic. If you force a mechanic with a scarab or map option, it should still show up.
As the comment metioned below, it will work fine with "forced" mechanics, such as scarabs, kirac mods, sextants, etc.
@@pathofmatth thanks.
@@jcjunglebob thanks. I didnt realize it was only natural occurrences. That might make for some funny business with exp scarbs
Sick content dude as always!
So “fragments” in Stream of Conscious includes scarabs and sextants? Delirium orbs? I thought it was just actual fragments (like midnight)? EDIT: I guess everything that can be fragment affinity into the fragments stashtab, so it would include: general, breach, scarab, maven/eldritch
Regarding stream of conciousness, what do you mean with exped strategy? Since when are scarabs fragments? Fragments are only boss fragments which increase quant like (shaper/elder/atziri/etc.) if i'm not mistaken. So in my opinion its pretty much a must have node i would say.
Singular focus also doesn't drop you any unique maps either, which means also no synth maps etc. You just gonna lose currency with this node keeping in mind that pretty much every high tier map is 4c+ or sth and you get an alch or wisdom scroll for it instead with this node.
What league starter would you recommend for uber juiced invitations?
I am assuming you are going for the boss tree first to rush to the new bosses asap correct?
Hahahaha. "why park? it's a very small map, and it's a very large map" I get what you mean though, just sounded funny :p
it's a small map that's large in it's corridors hahah idk man
the link to the atlas tree isnt the bossing one. Is the link broken?
Be aware that GGG confirmed that "Singular Focus" will convert every map that is not favored that includes unique maps for example or Guardian.
Also I'm a bit surprised you arnt taking Strongboxes in the mapping tree.
For Heist content do you just sell all the stuff you can get of the Smuggler's Cache?
I think you might be sleeping on Wandering Path but we'll see this league.
oh i am focusing of alch and go farming but i'm cutting out content that i hate and one is expedition
Why not the strongboxes nodes for the early stage? I felt that they were pretty good value last league, specially early on.
Yeah reallly loved the scarab boxes early
low tier map div card farming will be dope
I have a newbie question for you, veterans. Math here is going for Harvest - I am wondering why? I know he is going to play a single target build which is crazy for harvest but how harvest is a "click and collect your reward" mechanic since you most likely don't do it for the reward that drop from the monsters right? I mean if it is just to fight more monsters, Shrines or Strongboxes are better aren't they?
I know I am missing something with Harvest but I don't know what.
Hey Matt good luck at league start. I would love your opinion about Ruckus and Rogue trader nodes with the league mechanic juicing them when it procs. Im thinking about doing less heist before maps just doing it for 45 mins to an hour and using Ruckus to farm chaos recipe really fast while also getting my atlas completion going. Once I am in reds and im done with chaos recipe ill respec into the atlas tree for my other strat. I feel like the last couple leagues everyone has went the early heist route so even some of the more unique rares lose their value very quickly. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks a lot
I tested it this week, and it's great for the Chaos Recipe. Exiled Will + Unrelenting Torment are nearby as well, which stack well. Seance and it's small passives are another good add, but it's a lot of travel
I don't understand how you utilize Shadow Shaping to drop only one red map
I insert all watchstones, activate t16 map, put out all watchstones in my HO, enter map
drops are white, yellow and other crap maps but not the one I need
Going to be trying out your OP Tornado build from last patch. Anything you'd do differently or do you think it's still perfect the way it is?
made a guide on it just a couple days ago, fully updated :)
@@pathofmatth well then… excuse my lazy butt while I go gleefully watch it 😄
Thanks!
How do you craft the wands for this build?
Do you plan on taking the map nodes early for going through your atlas and specing out of them once you hit t16 or do you not find them worth it or needed?
use the keystone that doubles small passives but blocks notables ... Use the one that makes your favored maps more common but turns nonfavored into currency ... And then use the one that blocks favorited maps but buffs the not favorited ones ... Perfect meme Trinity
I like where you're going with that hahah
what is your main build this league ?
If i block for example legion and buy 1 random event for 3 chaos at the map device. Does it mean i will never get legion out of it or does it mean sometimes my 3 chaos just vanish
Damn we should try this and see
I assume it will spawn a random mechanic of the ones that arent blocked?
It will spawn legions as they are "forced" by the kirac mods, even if they are not chosen directly. Same with scarabs, will spawn those mechanics just fine. Would be interesting otherwise but I assume it will spawn them
@@pathofmatth thanks
@@pathofmatth I guess it will be easy to test
Hmm, so for minor nodes / notables, you're saying that the sum is greater than the parts ? Since if either part is more valuable you could just discard the less valuable half. Thanks for the breakdown
EDIT: My bad. I mistook Grand Design to be 100% effect too
I wish you great health
is it me or is the screen kinda hard to see?
You need to consider grand design like this
remove small passives for roughly 30% packsize.
the + chance for league mechanics isn't a big deal, especially if you are blocking 5+ mechanics and using scarabs/sextants/map device mods to force mechanics.
it will be highly dependent on what mechanics you are going to grind, I personally think its actually really good, the loss of map sustain won't be a big deal, I saw how stupid ez sustain was without map nodes in 3.17, it is however definitely a later keystone to grab once you have an established map pool, most your passives, etc...
stream of consciousness is so good for ssf
Dumb question.... How does removing void stones give you T15 and T16 maps? Wouldn't it be like T1-5 or whatever
that's why he says "Natural high level maps" maps that are already high level without any stone
This is for natural red maps. So for example if City Square was a natural t15 map without voidstones then removing voidstones would be easier to get those higher tier natural maps since you are limiting the drop pool.
@@guibom720 I thought the highest maps with no stones is like T5. I can't remember I guess
@@MyAMJourney they changed when they introduced the Atlas passive tree. You can reach level 16 without any stone, but if you use all 4 stones, every map on atlas will turn to lvl 16.
@Path of Matth yo can u update boss atlas tree ?
I want to follow your strats, but I hate harvest and usually always skip it. I dont use TFT so i dont know how to make money using harvest
thanks
Heya Matth.... thinking about making a "Burning-Arrow-Elementalist" for my starter... any thoughts? i was thinking that it's a decent early gamer char that will carry me into maps extremely cheap with golems and once i've hit some currenty-jackpots im pretty much open to switch into decent witch engame builds... was hoping to see any of the other streamers suggest something like that... sadly closest i've got was some sort of "explosive-shot SO MUCH BETTER L2PNOOB" trolls... any suggestions / thoughts from your side? Cheerio
tldr; burning arrow sucks A LOT
@@pathofmatth damn... well guess i've got some time to find a better ignite build xD
do you have a video, "how to maximize harvest profit?" i would like to see it. Harvest is on of the most confusing leauges.
i don´t even need to think...delve...every legue il just end buried in here the entire league XD
He's the GOAT! Your content is awesome and hugely helpful, thank you thank you thank you. Get well soon, my friend
Singular focus is a scary one...means no unique maps no guardian maps etc...I see no reason to ever use it when farming t11+
im stick to my balista dex stacking will pay for my carry for challenge