I remember absolutely loving the first game. Staying up late past bedtime, sneaking around at night to go grab my DS off the charger, trying to make the click clacks of the DS opening and closing as silent as possible, just to play fossil fighters and Pokemon ranger. Those were the days.
SAAAAME. BUT WITH CHAMPIONS. Let's be honest: this blows pokemon out of the water. And, I think a more action combat oriented spin off would play very well. Kinda like where you take full control of your vivosaur for a third person combat section using moves. FP is earned through either successfully evading the enemy moves, or through waiting for a small amount of time. As it constantly regens. And FP Plus would make the recharge cut down by 25%
The fact that fossil fighters had good 3D graphics only two years after Pokemon Diamond and peril were barely chugging along with 3D modes shows how well they hold up. Fossil fighters was the first game I ever spent over 100 hours on one save file.
To be fair, a lot of the viviosaurs attack animations were identical to the ones of similar/related ones. I guess this was still better than pokemon, since the animations were the same regardless of the Pokemon. I'm still scared by seeing dragon pulse come out of MT's crouch in Pokemon B&W 2!
Also still mad that when you finally get the legendary ones they tone them down to overpowered regular vivasaurs which makes sense from a balance perspective but just really disappointed me
I know dude, it felt like 50% of the game was post-game content bc of how many big battles just kept coming. As in champions as well. So much stuff and it's the best, currently replaying them on desmume
I remember tricking my mother into buying the first game when I was 6, when the only other game I had was Pokémon Platinum and never once did I see this game as a Pokémon clone. Also Frontier broke my soul, the story was sick, but beside that, it never held a candle it’s predecessors.
facts. my brother and i are in agreement that ff champions is the best game out of the trilogy because it has all of the content of the first game but just improved upon it. unfortunately no one can say the same about frontier. although frontier had a couple of quality of life improvements but, that's really all it has on the previous 2
fun fact: the first game went as far as having multiple romantic partner options. yes you can date the fossil girl who helps you out or date the dino girl. comparing that to frontier is.... sad.
This reminded me of a anime I used to watch when I was a kid called " Dinosaur King " , I loved the intro cuz it had dancing dinosaurs and the dinosaurs evolved and devolved like Digimon .
Didn't watch the cartoon because I couldn't find it, but I did have the game, and I actually had no idea the show even existed until several years after I found the game. One of my first childhood video games, and one of my favorites.
I remember replaying Champions over and over again because it had a New Game + feature so you could keep all your old vivosaurs. I wish Pokémon had a feature like that
904funny too bad that their unobtainable now unless you already got them before the ds Online thing shut down, I lost my original copy and was so disappointed when I couldn’t get saladasaur
Oh man I’m so glad I’m finding more and more people actually liking and recognize Fossil Fighters and FF Champions Frontier was such a massive disappointment and it’s good people can let that dissolve into the ether, hopefully since Nintendo purchased the ip they might do something but rn I’m just gonna hope for the best Great video dude
It’s sad that the series kind of went by the wayside (I was SOOOOO excited for Frontier, until I actually played it and was disappointed). Thankfully though, the rather small fandom around it is SUPER dedicated. The battle style is so unique and strategic, and pulled it off a lot better than Pokémon triple battles that came after.
Champions is my favorite Fossil Fighter game. Btw, in Fossil Fighter Champions there is an NPC staff at one of the areas that says this when you speak to him: "Fast cars are exciting, right? Maybe we could have people battle while driving around a racetrack!" He quickly follows it up with: "...No, you're right. That's a dumb idea." P.S. They were right lmao.
I almost never sell or return games; I got rid of Frontier within 3 days. I loved the first two so much; they had a stronger system to work with and just ignored it. The only positive thing about it is I liked how some areas had wandering wild vivosaurs despite it not making sense lore wise.
I really miss Fossil Fighters. Champions is easily my favorite of the trilogy with Frontier being my least. The series deserved to go out on a better note.
I would love them to make a fossil fighters for the switch! As someone who dreamed of becoming a paleontologist this was one of my favorite game franchises
I will only buy a Switch if, amd ONLY IF, Nintendo creates a new Fossil Fighters game for it. I'd write them that, but I don't think they'd listen, and I don't know there number.
While I never played it, I was always interested in playing Fossil Fighters, and I honestly feel it got the Yo-Kai Watch treatment of being seen as a mediocre Pokemon rip-off when they were actually pretty well-made games with interesting battle mechanics. And also like Fossil Fighter, I hope we get a Switch sequel (or even a remake) and the eventual localization of YW4 for the Switch.
I never heard of the series being called a Pokemon clone. The act of fighting dinosaurs and cleaning fossils is something that is pretty different from Pokemon's Battle system
@@compatriot852 Exactly, I've spoken with people about this, and they said that just looked at it, assumed it was just a rip-off or another ds shovelware title, and moved on when it comes to these games without giving them a shot.
it did get the yokai watch treatment :( especially since this game series can be hard and brutal (And dark sometimes) and yokai watch is also really amazing
YW4 localization is already confirmed to happen. It's still somehow set for this year in spite of [current global crisis]. If you look at the release dates for the past few games 2020 is exactly when it should be too. Blasters 2 on the other hand, that one's not getting localized sadly. I wouldn't hold my breath for the YW Jam game getting localized which is a shame considering it's a school life/RPG hybrid like Persona and FE3H which are super popular over here. Also not holding my breath for the supposed localization of the Shadowside and Forever Friends movies. There was interest in localizing them but we haven't heard anything since then and considering the anime is dead over here, the odds are so very slim.
The combat strayed from the first 2 games, bone buggies were neat but felt odd, they cut a lot of vivosaurs, and the butt jokes from that one kid got old incredibly fast. I've never heard a person use "hind quarters" in a sentence except for him. However! i love Nibbles.
there will always be a special place in my heart for fossil fighters, i got introduced to the series by a cousin i met at my great grandfathers funeral. i was visiting his house for a weekend, and he let me try the game out, i fell in love with the series instantly, and it was, and will always be, some of my favorite games. i even enjoyed frontiers but only for driving my car around lol, otherwise frontiers sucked ass
The original and Champions are one of my favorite games I played while growing up and it makes me happy seeing more people acknowledge them. Hope it'll come back some day cuz Frontier really was an awful note to go out on.
I'm so happy people are finally talking about these two amazing games. I grew up playing both of them and seeing it finally get attention brings my inner child so much joy
*I introduce my girlfriend to the first two games and she was clinging to it for life! Then she broke down in literal tears when she saw what Frontier did.*
Frontier feels like whoever worked on it never heard of what a fossil fighters game was or is supposed to be. To this day I could never beat it because of the horrible battle system and awful system, not that i could bring myself to try very hard...
Dude I couldn't beat the final boss either even though I was so overpowered the rest of the game ip to that point was an absolute breeze. Its like a paywall without the pay option xD
Fossil Fighters games were my childhood. Instead of Pokémon games I played the Fossil Fighters series haha. Thank you for making a video on this awesome and nostalgic video game series! It warms my heart to see that there are still fans out there! 😊
Every time I saw one of these games ( not just this series though, But also other similar series) on Gamestop I always thought they were just some Pokemon rip offs and they were not worth buying them.....I regret that now :v
I remember my friend at summer camp was playing this and it shocked everyone cause at the time the only thing we played was Diamond / Pearl / Platinum and I instantly fell in love and forced my mom to get it that same weekend
With all the nostalgia blasts, I’m honestly super tempted to draw some of these vivosaurs & characters out of pure admiration. The original almost felt like a Saturday morning cartoon show the more I think about it.
Champions was one of my favorite games as a kid and I was SO excited for Frontier to come out. but then I hated it upon release. when a 9-year old can tell that a game is bad, then you know it’s REALLY bad
@@echospace7347 probs not but I can agree that FFC is the best of the 3 the post game was real meaty, the new game plus added a lot as well as it added a reason for using vivosaur like shanshan thought the whole game and the worse vivosour though sadly I couldn't beat the last joe quest for beating him like 4 times in row
I played the first 2 before frontier and 13 year old me was so excited to get it and try it out. Just like you I remember being super disappointed especially when it cost me $40 and I bought the first and second from gamestop for about $5 for the original and $20 for champions
The first fossil fighters games and Champions still to this day remain as my favorite games, whenever anyone asks me, those r my responses, however, whenever anyone asks what my least favorite game is, I say fossil fighters: frontier. Not only is it disappointing compared to the previous 2 installments, I couldn’t even play it as a stand alone game, I played it for a few hours and kept tying to love it and get into it, but it sucks, reeeeeally bad. I replay the first 2 games every few years bc I can’t stay away, I just have so much fun every time, no matter how old I am
Seeing Fossil Fighters finally get the respect it deserves makes me die of happiness. Loved the first 2 games and played them so much, and the 3rd game was....ok, I guess.
It’s great seeing a game I always thought was niche getting attention as I kid I loved dinosaurs and getting older I loved Pokémon, this game was the love letter I wanted and it was much more than what I was asking for I really gotta check out Champions one day as one thing that threw me off as a kid was the artstyle change, I’m willing to be more open towards it now
@@andresmarrero8666 in the post-game tournaments Rosie from the first game returns as a competitor and is stated as being one of the champions from her home island
Oh god seeing Frontier again was painful. But holy damn do I love the two older games. Maybe we can show Nintendo that we love these games, and not cars.
God bless you for talking about Fossil Fighters. It was one of my favorite monster catching RPG series. I'm still forever salty at Pokemon fans completely dissing anything that even looked remotely close to Pokemon because I think this series could have gone much farther without that stigma. Minus Frontier though. That game can get flushed
I bought each of the fossil fighter games when they were first released. I remember seeing the third game in game stop and being really excited to get it. I was incredibly dissapointed
I get the feeling that in addition to simplification for a younger audience, part of Frontier's problem is that it was trying to emphasize the multiplayer experience at the expense of singleplayer. For one thing, the new battle system in Frontier works better in multiplayer, since you have real people to strategize with. Also, you can't pause the game even in singleplayer. This wasn't a problem in the first two games because there were no roaming enemies (with one specific exception that I recall) and battles were turn-based and not timed, but neither of those are the case in Frontier. (The rogue Vivosaurs can even _interrupt your fossil cleaning_ which causes you to lose the fossil.)
@@j-lo2098 basically a substitute for the nintendo ds wifi. I think it also works with the Wii too,,, fossil fighters champions was made compatible with it like two months ago, waiting for the original to be compatible so i can get spammed with compso dynal frigi
@@foodwithweirdrice9410 I was always curious about what a competitive scene for the first game would've looked like. I know Cryo was good in the first one, and that the Link trio was popular, but I never knew much about it.
@@emblemwarrior11 If you want to get into competitive fossil fighters, we made a discord server so people can participate in tourneys. Also, we have a restricted list so the game can be more balanced. Here's a link to the discord. discord.gg/g4MqjsJ
I loved this series and played all 3 entries to completion. Absolutely one of my all-time favorites with 2 being the high point. It is nice to see all of these videos popping up out of the woodworks for this franchise, and it gives me hope that the series will be revived better than it was left.
Dude when you said “tadpole planet eater” all I want is a fourth game with gunash just being a baby version or something and the main villain being an adult
YES!!! Another TH-camr talking about Fossil Fighters in 2020! Thank you RPG Monger! This was my very first DS game! I love the series so much that i made a comic dub of the manga of this game, this game has been so good. God bless you
This perfectly summarizes how I feel about fossil fighters; A great series then frontier happened following the "make games easier for kids" trend.......
These games are so memorable to me, I'm so glad to see that other people enjoyed it. I only had a few gripes with the games (other than Frontier 🤢) and thats that they kind of moved a bit away from dinosaurs themselves with the inclusion of Trex Lord and Giga Allo and stuff (but thats more of a personal problem since I'm a huge dinosaur person), and the fact that there was a limited competitive scene. I'm a huge pokemon player (even tho SwSh were bad lol) almost specifically because of the competitive aspect. If the original game had those 2 things, the games would be 200% perfect That being said I still love the first 2 with my whole heart lmao
this game was such a huge part of my childhood. i used to play it on my ds and my dad would play it along with me on his ds. we would always spend so much time together trying to get every vivosaur and getting all the secret ones in post game then getting them all max level. then when frontier came out i got it and played it for maybe 20 minutes and never touched it again. it was so disappointing seeing such a memorable and lovable franchise thrown away.
Really, I have no Idea what they were thinking when they designed the combat system for Frontier. Only letting you pick one Vivosaur in a game about collecting them is bad enough, but when your given a special Vivosaur that the story expects you to use it makes collecting the Vivosaurs pointless. Also I was in late high school when I played Frontier, and I couldn't make heads or tails of the stance system, so I wouldn't call it simplified. and having to share points with AIs that seem programed to use their most expensive attacks at random targets is soo frustrating.
@@E4439Qv5 My point is that it really goes to show their mindset when they hyperfocus on Pokemon and not even consider the other DS mon RPG with dinosaurs in it. The footage of Frontier in this video shows that the franchise fell so far that it copied Terry from the Dinosaur King anime, how he starts off small when not in battle then grows big when his card is scanned.
Oh my god...the Childhood nostalgia is overwhelming me this was one of my favorite DS games of all time. It was tough as hell but it was very fun and rewarding You my good monger have some of the best Videos on all of TH-cam.
I guess I'm one of the lucky few that was able to enjoy Frontiers. Storytime: I played Fossil Fighters on my DS when I was 10 or so, less than a decade ago. I loved it. I had seen commercials for Frontiers on Tv and thought "Cool, a sequel!", not knowing Champions existed. I didn't get the game, though. About three years later, I picked up Fossil Fighters and loved it all over again, and wanting more, I looked up the sequel. This is where I discovered Champions and decided to get and play that first. So I did. And I loved it just like the first, fir every way it was the same, and even more for every way it had changed. Then last year, the first summer of quarantine, I go digging (hah) through my old games to find something to pass the time, and I find these two. I decided to complete them to 100% percent, and then finally finish the trilogy. Playing Frontiers was unsettling, to say the least. Not because of the driving system, I had expected that, and not because of the fossil cleaning, as that felt factually better to me, but man oh man, the battle system. For starters, swapping Air and Earth on the type wheel took some getting used to. And then there was the turn order. A far departure from the past games, but with the Speed Plus booster, felt far from inconvenient. Quite the opposite. I often found myself spamming it on my Vivosaur at the end of one round to destroy the entire opposition at the beginning of the next. I did this using the stance system, something I believe can be universally agreed as one of this game's finer points. I've the game's main and post stories, and am now left digging every fossil, and leveling every Vivosaur to max. It could be the nostalgia, it could be my own personal love and aptitude for change, but I certainly enjoy Frontiers, and I'm sorry many others could not.
I feel like Frontier would’ve been much better received if they A. kept the battle system of Champions, and B. Instead of cars, just ride the Vivosaurs. You don’t even need to sacrifice the customization of the cars. Just have different types of Vivosaurs be good at different things in the field (some can jump, some can boost, some can smash through obstacles)
It's so sad that RED got bought out. This game was my life. I actually like some of Frontier's redesigns, specifically Tricera and Mihu, along with variations from different countries and renames after famous skeletons, i.e. Sue, Stan, and Big Al. Well, now that I know that the series really is dead, I'm gonna go mourn and think up a new dinosaur RPG.
Just a thought... Vivasaur is probably meant to rhyme with Dinosaur. If they wanted to localize it better towards that end they definitely should have spelled it "Vivosaur", but still I think that was the intent.
After watching Jaiden animations video on it, I decided to get one of my old copies of it out and play it. I enjoyed it, it was fun, I finished it in a day. It turns out that a team of Spinax, ShanShan, and Goyle is all you need to beat the story. I say this because the only battles I lost were either scripted or I used a different team the first time, then won the second time when I used the optimal team
It's some of my favorite content on youtube, watching people rediscover my favorite games and realizing how great they were. The Fossil Fighters series are my two favorite games if all time, and my least favorite mistake.
Personally I love Frontier! Probably my bias since it was the first one I played and I have not played Champions, but still, I think Frontier was great!!!
@@rice2meatu yes i saw that as well and i also screamed and freaked out when i saw cause now it means the game is getting more good attention like it needs
I mean, the plot sounds a bit like parts of several pokemon games. But the gameplay is very different, aside from "creature fighting creature" but like you pointed out that's not an uncommon game type. I'm kinda sad that I never heard of this until now.
Yeah it’s pretty unfair comparing them like that tbh. It just takes away any identity fossil Fighters has (and any other game that has the premise of collecting powerful animals without ripping anything off)
i actually had this game as a kid, it was really fun and even though i sucked at cleaning the fossils it was really rewarding when you would clean one perfectly, man i miss this game
This reminds me of another dinosaur vs dinosaur adventure series that also had a game on the DS... but i can't place my finger on it. (meanwhile in the background): *Dinosaur King theme intensifies*
I immediately wanted to play Fossil Fighters when it showed the commercial a decade ago. Silly good story, decent graphics for a 2008 game. Music fits the themes perfectly. I'm grateful and adore this game so much. We don't want to talk about Frontier though...
Just now I realized Fossil Fighters and Dinosaur King are different franchises. Never played or watched either, but I always assumed they were the same thing.
I feel some games can do the “AI controlled” party members right, like Miitopia for an example, theres still a few hiccups with the AI using some particular jobs, but overall its still a really fun combat system and the AI was competent most of the time. But man though, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought Frontier’s battle system was terrible. What I hated the most honestly was those expendable booster things, the amount of times I was about to KO an opponent, only for them to start spamming defense up was kinda infuriating. lol The first two fossil fighters though, absolutely love them, granted I say this for almost every DS game I played, but the first two games played a huge part in my life.
Have you played spectrobes? I remember a digging minigame in it where you blow into the microphone to blow off the dust. And maybe between send fossil into a machine to bring it back to life if I'm remembering that right.
I remember playing frontier for the first time about a year ago. I heard it was bad but while playing it I didn't hate it that much. Felt it was the weakest of the much but I was just coasting along. Trying to enjoy it as much that I could. That was until I got to the final boss. It took me 5 hours to beat the boss only because my stupid AI controlled partners so fucking stupid. I probably could have made it easier if I grinded up the plot vivisaur but I had already done that for carchar as he was always my favorite, and grinding is so fucking slow in the game Also they made carchar ugly as shit he's the worst redesign
I had that happen to me in like my 3rd or 4th playthrough of frontier, cause yes while it isn’t anything amazing it is nowhere near as bad as he made it out to be. I enjoyed playing through it and wanting to at least go through it a couple times with different partners to try new things and really it is a pretty fun experience, it’s just that damn final boss that is always frustrating
My childhood right here. Literally my favorite game that I will still go back and play. I got two of FF and FFC so I could fight myself since nobody else I knew had a copy
FF GANG RISE UP THERE'S A RUMOR OF A REMAKE COMING TO THE SWITCH I KNOW THIS IS OPTIMISTIC THINKING BUT GOD I WANT MY CHILDHOOD TO COME BACK. I need to basically deconstruct my house to try and find the cartridges for the first two games.
There was a game similar to fossil fighters called spectrobes it has fossil resurrecting and all extremely good game but unfortunately Disney owned the game so it go discontinued
This game was my childhood! One of the first games I ever played. I remember buying Champions just about two years ago, and I loved it. Not as much as the OG, but it was still extremely solid, and the Vivosaurs all looked great! I also loved the idea of more fossil rocks, and evolution as well. Frontier straight pissed me off tho. I hated the car aspect, the characters were all bland and boring, the plotting was utterly half assed, and the Vivosaur designs were straight garbage. Some look kinda cool ig, but they took the artstyle that made the OG designs so great, and just absolutely butchered it. Also, I absolutely HATE how they made the duckbill dinosaurs look. In the original and Champions, they were badass kung fu fighters or something. They looked awesome. In here, they’re ugly fat abominations! I don’t know how you can screw up designs so badly. Also, Charchar looks absolutely horrible in Frontier. Look at that head! I could honestly rant about everything I hated about Frontier for hours on end. It’s in my top 10 worst games ever made for sure
I remember absolutely loving the first game. Staying up late past bedtime, sneaking around at night to go grab my DS off the charger, trying to make the click clacks of the DS opening and closing as silent as possible, just to play fossil fighters and Pokemon ranger. Those were the days.
I did the same thing omg bruh
Trying to get rid of that dust late at night... sheesh
Yeah man I beat the first game at 3 am when I was 7 and I remember my exact team, Guan - T rex - seismo, that was the best fight of my life
Oh my god, I did the same exact things for just about any game, FF was one of them hehe
SAAAAME. BUT WITH CHAMPIONS. Let's be honest: this blows pokemon out of the water. And, I think a more action combat oriented spin off would play very well. Kinda like where you take full control of your vivosaur for a third person combat section using moves. FP is earned through either successfully evading the enemy moves, or through waiting for a small amount of time. As it constantly regens. And FP Plus would make the recharge cut down by 25%
Old school fossil fighters fans when they see how awful Frontier is: Look how they massacred my boy
Salty Steambags yep growing up with it and looking at it now is sad so I play the old ones
Agreed, it hurts my heart
Well... sauroposeidon is not bad at all.... right?
as someone who owned both the og, champions, and frontier, i disagree.
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The fact that fossil fighters had good 3D graphics only two years after Pokemon Diamond and peril were barely chugging along with 3D modes shows how well they hold up. Fossil fighters was the first game I ever spent over 100 hours on one save file.
It looks more animated than sword and shield
Nigle Trollster bro on the first one i had over 380 hours, i’ve had the game since i was 6 😂😂
Same. I love these games.
To be fair, a lot of the viviosaurs attack animations were identical to the ones of similar/related ones. I guess this was still better than pokemon, since the animations were the same regardless of the Pokemon. I'm still scared by seeing dragon pulse come out of MT's crouch in Pokemon B&W 2!
There you go, now you have more likes than hours you spent, lol
I played THE SHIT out of this as a kid and didn’t realize how much I missed it until now
I also forgot just how much crack the story writers were on
Also still mad that when you finally get the legendary ones they tone them down to overpowered regular vivasaurs which makes sense from a balance perspective but just really disappointed me
@@dr.dylansgame5583 I had felt so much disappointment when they were nerfed.
I agree I feel the same
@@dr.dylansgame5583 Are u talking about the three brain eating vivosaurs. There so much weaker when u use them its sad.
I know dude, it felt like 50% of the game was post-game content bc of how many big battles just kept coming. As in champions as well. So much stuff and it's the best, currently replaying them on desmume
Dude... So many youtubers are talking about fossil fighters all of a sudden and i LOVE IT
SAME. This game needs more attention.
@Lillie Senpai well, theres Jaiden Animations, who did an animated review of it, which i really liked
Same this hit so hard as a kid and it still does I have the original one with me I had it since like 2011
With all this talk going on I’m just waiting for another game (and one that’s more like the originals and not Frontier)
SAME
I remember tricking my mother into buying the first game when I was 6, when the only other game I had was Pokémon Platinum and never once did I see this game as a Pokémon clone. Also Frontier broke my soul, the story was sick, but beside that, it never held a candle it’s predecessors.
The battling was annoying, and without thought
facts. my brother and i are in agreement that ff champions is the best game out of the trilogy because it has all of the content of the first game but just improved upon it. unfortunately no one can say the same about frontier. although frontier had a couple of quality of life improvements but, that's really all it has on the previous 2
fun fact:
the first game went as far as having multiple romantic partner options. yes you can date the fossil girl who helps you out or date the dino girl.
comparing that to frontier is.... sad.
Big reminder how much of a cockblocker Gamefreak is.
Duna gang rise up
That scene where Nibbles gets left behind though...
@@zackawesomeness2506 No sir this is a rosie only household
How about Champions?
This reminded me of a anime I used to watch when I was a kid called " Dinosaur King " , I loved the intro cuz it had dancing dinosaurs and the dinosaurs evolved and devolved like Digimon .
They made a \game version of it and it was lit af
I too remember watching it on Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon
Didn't watch the cartoon because I couldn't find it, but I did have the game, and I actually had no idea the show even existed until several years after I found the game. One of my first childhood video games, and one of my favorites.
I found the show on netflix or hulu at one point, still as good as before
i had the cards and i got upset because i could never find any of them ever… devastating for a 8 year old
I remember replaying Champions over and over again because it had a New Game + feature so you could keep all your old vivosaurs. I wish Pokémon had a feature like that
It also had DLC with returning characters and Legendary Vivos
904funny too bad that their unobtainable now unless you already got them before the ds Online thing shut down, I lost my original copy and was so disappointed when I couldn’t get saladasaur
I got the chickens into the first game via Nintendo Channel
Degenerate actually there is a way to bypass the WiFi check to get WiFi dlc for chanpions
Yep I got the DLC stuff for champions.
Oh man I’m so glad I’m finding more and more people actually liking and recognize Fossil Fighters and FF Champions
Frontier was such a massive disappointment and it’s good people can let that dissolve into the ether, hopefully since Nintendo purchased the ip they might do something but rn I’m just gonna hope for the best
Great video dude
It’s sad that the series kind of went by the wayside (I was SOOOOO excited for Frontier, until I actually played it and was disappointed). Thankfully though, the rather small fandom around it is SUPER dedicated.
The battle style is so unique and strategic, and pulled it off a lot better than Pokémon triple battles that came after.
agreed. And now im gonna be looking for this community.
Rotation battles are a better comparison, but even so, they were only in one generation and were still simpler than Fossil Fighters
If you’d like a similar game try spetrobes
I’m not letting it die! When I’m done with college, I’m making a remake of fossil fighters champions! Have hope!
I'd like to see it.
Tell us how the progress gos
I would like to see it too
So would i
Sounds dope! Let us know how it goes.
Champions is my favorite Fossil Fighter game. Btw, in Fossil Fighter Champions there is an NPC staff at one of the areas that says this when you speak to him:
"Fast cars are exciting, right? Maybe we could have people battle while driving around a racetrack!"
He quickly follows it up with:
"...No, you're right. That's a dumb idea."
P.S. They were right lmao.
Lol.
And then, we got YuGiOh 5Ds, instead of cars and dinosaur, we got a motorcycle and virtual monsters. At least, it's close enough.
@@mfs96 The difference is that the plot for Yugioh 5D's is awesome
Isn’t this..more of a reference to Mario Kart?
The story in champions is amazing.
I almost never sell or return games; I got rid of Frontier within 3 days. I loved the first two so much; they had a stronger system to work with and just ignored it. The only positive thing about it is I liked how some areas had wandering wild vivosaurs despite it not making sense lore wise.
I really miss Fossil Fighters. Champions is easily my favorite of the trilogy with Frontier being my least. The series deserved to go out on a better note.
I would love them to make a fossil fighters for the switch! As someone who dreamed of becoming a paleontologist this was one of my favorite game franchises
I SECOND THIS!!
I agree
I will only buy a Switch if, amd ONLY IF, Nintendo creates a new Fossil Fighters game for it. I'd write them that, but I don't think they'd listen, and I don't know there number.
While I never played it, I was always interested in playing Fossil Fighters, and I honestly feel it got the Yo-Kai Watch treatment of being seen as a mediocre Pokemon rip-off when they were actually pretty well-made games with interesting battle mechanics. And also like Fossil Fighter, I hope we get a Switch sequel (or even a remake) and the eventual localization of YW4 for the Switch.
I never heard of the series being called a Pokemon clone.
The act of fighting dinosaurs and cleaning fossils is something that is pretty different from Pokemon's Battle system
@@compatriot852 Exactly, I've spoken with people about this, and they said that just looked at it, assumed it was just a rip-off or another ds shovelware title, and moved on when it comes to these games without giving them a shot.
You'd have to deplete my iq to 0 to make me say something like that.
it did get the yokai watch treatment :( especially since this game series can be hard and brutal (And dark sometimes) and yokai watch is also really amazing
YW4 localization is already confirmed to happen. It's still somehow set for this year in spite of [current global crisis]. If you look at the release dates for the past few games 2020 is exactly when it should be too. Blasters 2 on the other hand, that one's not getting localized sadly.
I wouldn't hold my breath for the YW Jam game getting localized which is a shame considering it's a school life/RPG hybrid like Persona and FE3H which are super popular over here.
Also not holding my breath for the supposed localization of the Shadowside and Forever Friends movies. There was interest in localizing them but we haven't heard anything since then and considering the anime is dead over here, the odds are so very slim.
"Joe Wildwest" is the best American name I have ever heard lol
Lol ikr. Like yes the most original name “Joe Wildwest” XD
I kept on hoping that if there was a Fossil Fighters anime that Owen Wilson would voice Joe Wildwest!
Jim West and him should make a movie together
Haven't you heard of one Mr. glock 19 gen 5 mos? Now that's an American name.
IGN: "Final Fantasy is just a ripoff of Dragon Quest, 5.9 out of 10."
also IGN: Last of us 2 is too good to even exist on this earth 25/10
Dragon Quest would be incredibly sexist and bigoted by their book, so any rip-offs would be 3/10 at best.
Unless they do "Like DQ but with wokeness".
_ugggh,_ I know exactly which review you're talking about, and I hate it.
Rupert is _NOT_ Gary Oak.
7.8/10 too much water
Hate when IGN suddenly goes dumb like that. Really shows how simple minded some of there "reviewers" are when playing these type of games.
It’s so good people are remembering this game, I was obsessed with the series.
Frontier was the Fallout: 76 of my childhood.
Yeah I used to play it all the time. It's a guilty pleasure for me
The game was that rubbish and made people wonder why they even liked the series in the first place.
The combat strayed from the first 2 games, bone buggies were neat but felt odd, they cut a lot of vivosaurs, and the butt jokes from that one kid got old incredibly fast. I've never heard a person use "hind quarters" in a sentence except for him.
However! i love Nibbles.
This is fact
More like Sword and Shield.
there will always be a special place in my heart for fossil fighters, i got introduced to the series by a cousin i met at my great grandfathers funeral. i was visiting his house for a weekend, and he let me try the game out, i fell in love with the series instantly, and it was, and will always be, some of my favorite games. i even enjoyed frontiers but only for driving my car around lol, otherwise frontiers sucked ass
*"Fossil Fights is Officially Extinct"*
WatchMojo: *Top Ten Saddest Video game Deaths* 😥😢😭😫
No no no.
*Top ten anime deaths*
Man, nobody seems to talk about the announcers in the second and *especially* first games.
P.A. and Leon deserve rights
Dude.
Slate and P.A. are the funniest s[..]t!
*Uses an FP equalizing ability
"What is this, communism?"
Gold
The original and Champions are one of my favorite games I played while growing up and it makes me happy seeing more people acknowledge them.
Hope it'll come back some day cuz Frontier really was an awful note to go out on.
I'm so happy people are finally talking about these two amazing games. I grew up playing both of them and seeing it finally get attention brings my inner child so much joy
*I introduce my girlfriend to the first two games and she was clinging to it for life! Then she broke down in literal tears when she saw what Frontier did.*
I almost broke down to tears myself
Yep, I played 5 minutes of the demo, and then deleted it, I was so sad I absolutely loved the first game, I still have the game guide
Frontier feels like whoever worked on it never heard of what a fossil fighters game was or is supposed to be.
To this day I could never beat it because of the horrible battle system and awful system, not that i could bring myself to try very hard...
@@deltagearadvanced5140 I was close but couldn't beat the final boss unless I grind
Dude I couldn't beat the final boss either even though I was so overpowered the rest of the game ip to that point was an absolute breeze. Its like a paywall without the pay option xD
Fossil Fighters games were my childhood. Instead of Pokémon games I played the Fossil Fighters series haha. Thank you for making a video on this awesome and nostalgic video game series! It warms my heart to see that there are still fans out there! 😊
Every time I saw one of these games ( not just this series though, But also other similar series) on Gamestop I always thought they were just some Pokemon rip offs and they were not worth buying them.....I regret that now :v
I made a worse mistake, I heard good things about the series and bought frontier, thinking it would be like the praised ones.
Damn, You made a big mistake :v
Go fix this error and buy the first two
Umbrella eye thing guy that’s CRIMINAL!
@@AndreaMusso99 lucky for you they're still only like 15$ pre-owned at gamestop
I remember my friend at summer camp was playing this and it shocked everyone cause at the time the only thing we played was Diamond / Pearl / Platinum and I instantly fell in love and forced my mom to get it that same weekend
Forced your mom 🤔
Anyone else remember Spectrobes? It was also a fossil cleaning game, with a RPG feel.
I only got the first two games and had bought the third one. Also remember the minisodes that were online?
I liked spectrobes origins a lot
i didn't like it that much
Fun game!
Another Pokémon-like game that was pretty fun and good in its own right, though I must say I vastly preferred Fossil Fighters to Spectrobes.
With all the nostalgia blasts, I’m honestly super tempted to draw some of these vivosaurs & characters out of pure admiration. The original almost felt like a Saturday morning cartoon show the more I think about it.
Fossil fighters was such a beacon of hope in my childhood during my rough times
I really wish they would do more with this franchise. I loved it. It was so fun.
Champions was one of my favorite games as a kid and I was SO excited for Frontier to come out. but then I hated it upon release. when a 9-year old can tell that a game is bad, then you know it’s REALLY bad
Did you ever play the first ?
@@echospace7347 probs not but I can agree that FFC is the best of the 3 the post game was real meaty, the new game plus added a lot as well as it added a reason for using vivosaur like shanshan thought the whole game and the worse vivosour though sadly I couldn't beat the last joe quest for beating him like 4 times in row
I played the first 2 before frontier and 13 year old me was so excited to get it and try it out. Just like you I remember being super disappointed especially when it cost me $40 and I bought the first and second from gamestop for about $5 for the original and $20 for champions
Frontier can be summed up as "look how they massacred my boy"
I 100% agree with this statement.
Cars? Cars?! CAAAAAAARS!! And IIIIIIIIIIIII-HOLY SHIT! Will Always Love Yo-I CANT BELIEVE YOU DID THIS TO ME GODDAMMIT HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?!?!
@@firestar4407 r/ihadastroke
13:24 had me briefly panicked, seeing the Miraculous Fossil screen with the Hammer tool active.
One false move... /*shudders*
That's why we save beforehand.
I accidentally did that once. Legit lost hours of work just to try again
The dark fossils were the worst because you couldn't drill the first layer. You had to hammer it.
@@azathoth2067 you needed god's hand to be able to get above 90 with those. specially the ones that break EVERY LAYER in 1 hit
@@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee highest I ever got was low. 70s.
The first fossil fighters games and Champions still to this day remain as my favorite games, whenever anyone asks me, those r my responses, however, whenever anyone asks what my least favorite game is, I say fossil fighters: frontier. Not only is it disappointing compared to the previous 2 installments, I couldn’t even play it as a stand alone game, I played it for a few hours and kept tying to love it and get into it, but it sucks, reeeeeally bad. I replay the first 2 games every few years bc I can’t stay away, I just have so much fun every time, no matter how old I am
Same the original is the only damn game cartridge I've kept since I was a kid somehow
"There was one more Fossil Fighter Gam-"
Ad: *ARE YOU TIRED!*
ME: YES I AM! I Refuse to Acknowledge that game!
Seeing Fossil Fighters finally get the respect it deserves makes me die of happiness. Loved the first 2 games and played them so much, and the 3rd game was....ok, I guess.
3rd game was like a day old sandwich.
It’s great seeing a game I always thought was niche getting attention
as I kid I loved dinosaurs and getting older I loved Pokémon, this game was the love letter I wanted and it was much more than what I was asking for
I really gotta check out Champions one day as one thing that threw me off as a kid was the artstyle change, I’m willing to be more open towards it now
What threw me off was that there was no mention of the events of the previous game.
Champions was pretty good imo. The original game was still more charming, but Champions holds its own.
@@andresmarrero8666 in the post-game tournaments Rosie from the first game returns as a competitor and is stated as being one of the champions from her home island
I remember asking for Champions and got the first one instead. Never having played any Fossil Fighters game beforehand, it was still amazing.
Oh god seeing Frontier again was painful. But holy damn do I love the two older games. Maybe we can show Nintendo that we love these games, and not cars.
God bless you for talking about Fossil Fighters. It was one of my favorite monster catching RPG series.
I'm still forever salty at Pokemon fans completely dissing anything that even looked remotely close to Pokemon because I think this series could have gone much farther without that stigma.
Minus Frontier though. That game can get flushed
Personally I just wish Nintendo would just do a remake of the old games with updated graphics. But sadly that might not even be a thing they could do.
If they remade the first 2 that would be so cool
Yes that and add online random battles
Next thing we know they'll start praising "Custom robot arena"
Let's hope so. I love custom robo
@@jeremiahgardner5486 same
I can't tell if this is meant to be an insult or compliment
This is hilarious, I've been replaying this game recently. Glad it's getting attention! It's a great game series.
I bought each of the fossil fighter games when they were first released. I remember seeing the third game in game stop and being really excited to get it. I was incredibly dissapointed
Fossil Fighters: YES
Fossil Fighters: Champions: YESSSSSS
Fossil Fighters: Frontier: no...no, nooooo whyyyyyyy
I get the feeling that in addition to simplification for a younger audience, part of Frontier's problem is that it was trying to emphasize the multiplayer experience at the expense of singleplayer. For one thing, the new battle system in Frontier works better in multiplayer, since you have real people to strategize with. Also, you can't pause the game even in singleplayer. This wasn't a problem in the first two games because there were no roaming enemies (with one specific exception that I recall) and battles were turn-based and not timed, but neither of those are the case in Frontier. (The rogue Vivosaurs can even _interrupt your fossil cleaning_ which causes you to lose the fossil.)
Fun fact-- you can battle online in the second game using Wimmfii! god the meta is so out of balance but like oh babey is it fun.
Whats wimmfii
@@j-lo2098 basically a substitute for the nintendo ds wifi. I think it also works with the Wii too,,,
fossil fighters champions was made compatible with it like two months ago, waiting for the original to be compatible so i can get spammed with compso dynal frigi
@@foodwithweirdrice9410 I was always curious about what a competitive scene for the first game would've looked like. I know Cryo was good in the first one, and that the Link trio was popular, but I never knew much about it.
@@emblemwarrior11 If you want to get into competitive fossil fighters, we made a discord server so people can participate in tourneys. Also, we have a restricted list so the game can be more balanced. Here's a link to the discord. discord.gg/g4MqjsJ
I thought it was stupid that on the preview screen, you can’t swap out to your benched vivosaurs in WiFi battles
Fossil Fighters and Fossil Fighters Champions were my 2 favorite DS games when i was young. My favorite character overall was and still is Duna.
3:49
"And honestly, that's just scratching the surface"
I see what you did there
I’m replaying fossil fighters currently, feels amazing to play this again. Last time I had it I was like 12
I loved this series and played all 3 entries to completion. Absolutely one of my all-time favorites with 2 being the high point. It is nice to see all of these videos popping up out of the woodworks for this franchise, and it gives me hope that the series will be revived better than it was left.
Bruh this evokes memories from a part of my brain I didn't know existed
26:33 Terry from Dinosaur King, is that you?
Dude when you said “tadpole planet eater” all I want is a fourth game with gunash just being a baby version or something and the main villain being an adult
YES!!! Another TH-camr talking about Fossil Fighters in 2020! Thank you RPG Monger! This was my very first DS game! I love the series so much that i made a comic dub of the manga of this game, this game has been so good. God bless you
Ooh.
Did you upload it?
Check my TH-cam channel
A part of me is holding out hope for the series to make a return despite all the odds stacked against it
we all do, the day that happens I will shed tears of joy
This perfectly summarizes how I feel about fossil fighters; A great series then frontier happened following the "make games easier for kids" trend.......
These games are so memorable to me, I'm so glad to see that other people enjoyed it. I only had a few gripes with the games (other than Frontier 🤢) and thats that they kind of moved a bit away from dinosaurs themselves with the inclusion of Trex Lord and Giga Allo and stuff (but thats more of a personal problem since I'm a huge dinosaur person), and the fact that there was a limited competitive scene. I'm a huge pokemon player (even tho SwSh were bad lol) almost specifically because of the competitive aspect. If the original game had those 2 things, the games would be 200% perfect
That being said I still love the first 2 with my whole heart lmao
Fossil Fighters is fantastic! Good lord, I played this damn thing endlessly.
this game was such a huge part of my childhood. i used to play it on my ds and my dad would play it along with me on his ds. we would always spend so much time together trying to get every vivosaur and getting all the secret ones in post game then getting them all max level. then when frontier came out i got it and played it for maybe 20 minutes and never touched it again. it was so disappointing seeing such a memorable and lovable franchise thrown away.
"Jaiden animations has joined the chat"
Really, I have no Idea what they were thinking when they designed the combat system for Frontier. Only letting you pick one Vivosaur in a game about collecting them is bad enough, but when your given a special Vivosaur that the story expects you to use it makes collecting the Vivosaurs pointless. Also I was in late high school when I played Frontier, and I couldn't make heads or tails of the stance system, so I wouldn't call it simplified. and having to share points with AIs that seem programed to use their most expensive attacks at random targets is soo frustrating.
4:11 That reviewer didn't even mention Dinosaur King DS did he?
God, I hope not.
@@E4439Qv5 My point is that it really goes to show their mindset when they hyperfocus on Pokemon and not even consider the other DS mon RPG with dinosaurs in it. The footage of Frontier in this video shows that the franchise fell so far that it copied Terry from the Dinosaur King anime, how he starts off small when not in battle then grows big when his card is scanned.
I played the 3ds version and I grew emotionally attached to my dinosaurs
There is an app called Amino where it has a Fossil Fighters community so if you want a place to talk about the game there is a place.
There's a reddit for it too. Everyone there is super nice.
Oh my god...the Childhood nostalgia is overwhelming me this was one of my favorite DS games of all time. It was tough as hell but it was very fun and rewarding You my good monger have some of the best Videos on all of TH-cam.
I will review any pokemon game and call it a shin megami tensei rip off
do it
“Dragon Quest rip-off”*
and you'd be 120% wrong
@@alakazamlover4908 why
Damn people really getting mad in here
I guess I'm one of the lucky few that was able to enjoy Frontiers. Storytime: I played Fossil Fighters on my DS when I was 10 or so, less than a decade ago. I loved it. I had seen commercials for Frontiers on Tv and thought "Cool, a sequel!", not knowing Champions existed. I didn't get the game, though. About three years later, I picked up Fossil Fighters and loved it all over again, and wanting more, I looked up the sequel. This is where I discovered Champions and decided to get and play that first. So I did. And I loved it just like the first, fir every way it was the same, and even more for every way it had changed. Then last year, the first summer of quarantine, I go digging (hah) through my old games to find something to pass the time, and I find these two. I decided to complete them to 100% percent, and then finally finish the trilogy. Playing Frontiers was unsettling, to say the least. Not because of the driving system, I had expected that, and not because of the fossil cleaning, as that felt factually better to me, but man oh man, the battle system. For starters, swapping Air and Earth on the type wheel took some getting used to. And then there was the turn order. A far departure from the past games, but with the Speed Plus booster, felt far from inconvenient. Quite the opposite. I often found myself spamming it on my Vivosaur at the end of one round to destroy the entire opposition at the beginning of the next. I did this using the stance system, something I believe can be universally agreed as one of this game's finer points. I've the game's main and post stories, and am now left digging every fossil, and leveling every Vivosaur to max. It could be the nostalgia, it could be my own personal love and aptitude for change, but I certainly enjoy Frontiers, and I'm sorry many others could not.
I feel like Frontier would’ve been much better received if they A. kept the battle system of Champions, and B. Instead of cars, just ride the Vivosaurs. You don’t even need to sacrifice the customization of the cars. Just have different types of Vivosaurs be good at different things in the field (some can jump, some can boost, some can smash through obstacles)
It's so sad that RED got bought out. This game was my life. I actually like some of Frontier's redesigns, specifically Tricera and Mihu, along with variations from different countries and renames after famous skeletons, i.e. Sue, Stan, and Big Al.
Well, now that I know that the series really is dead, I'm gonna go mourn and think up a new dinosaur RPG.
Look how they massacred my mapo
When did they get bought out?
Na replay it
Fossil fighters champions is probably the hardest game i played back then i remember trying to defeat the last zombie dino boss alot of time
I bought it 6 months ago but still haven’t played it yet
mistake
h o w h a v e n ‘ t y o u
Dewit!
Just a thought... Vivasaur is probably meant to rhyme with Dinosaur. If they wanted to localize it better towards that end they definitely should have spelled it "Vivosaur", but still I think that was the intent.
It is spelled vivosaur, not Viva
Damn, I haven't heard anything about this trilogy in years. I feel old
After watching Jaiden animations video on it, I decided to get one of my old copies of it out and play it. I enjoyed it, it was fun, I finished it in a day. It turns out that a team of Spinax, ShanShan, and Goyle is all you need to beat the story. I say this because the only battles I lost were either scripted or I used a different team the first time, then won the second time when I used the optimal team
Wow, finally someone else who knows about Fossil Fighters! Easily on my top 5 favorite games of all time. Shame the franchise got screwed over.
It's some of my favorite content on youtube, watching people rediscover my favorite games and realizing how great they were. The Fossil Fighters series are my two favorite games if all time, and my least favorite mistake.
Fossil Fighters & Spectrobes were the must haves for my when I was a kid
Personally I love Frontier! Probably my bias since it was the first one I played and I have not played Champions, but still, I think Frontier was great!!!
SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT FOSSIL FIGHTERS?!
my day has been made.
I’m going to assume you have watched Jaiden Animations’ video on Fossil Fighters
@@rice2meatu yes i saw that as well and i also screamed and freaked out when i saw cause now it means the game is getting more good attention like it needs
Watching this made me relive the memories of receiving and cleaning prehistoric chicken fossils from a Wii channel event. Ah, memories…
Yes... I'm so glad Fossil Fighters is making the rounds on YT!!
I loved frontier when I got it, still love it today.
I mean, the plot sounds a bit like parts of several pokemon games. But the gameplay is very different, aside from "creature fighting creature" but like you pointed out that's not an uncommon game type.
I'm kinda sad that I never heard of this until now.
Yeah it’s pretty unfair comparing them like that tbh. It just takes away any identity fossil Fighters has (and any other game that has the premise of collecting powerful animals without ripping anything off)
Please, do give it a try!
i actually had this game as a kid, it was really fun and even though i sucked at cleaning the fossils it was really rewarding when you would clean one perfectly, man i miss this game
This reminds me of another dinosaur vs dinosaur adventure series that also had a game on the DS... but i can't place my finger on it.
(meanwhile in the background): *Dinosaur King theme intensifies*
*DINOSAUR KING IS WHATCHA WANNA BE YEA-*
@@Crow0567 MAKE YOUR MOVE! C'MON AN' MAKE YOUR MOVE!
I immediately wanted to play Fossil Fighters when it showed the commercial a decade ago. Silly good story, decent graphics for a 2008 game. Music fits the themes perfectly. I'm grateful and adore this game so much.
We don't want to talk about Frontier though...
Just now I realized Fossil Fighters and Dinosaur King are different franchises.
Never played or watched either, but I always assumed they were the same thing.
I feel some games can do the “AI controlled” party members right, like Miitopia for an example, theres still a few hiccups with the AI using some particular jobs, but overall its still a really fun combat system and the AI was competent most of the time. But man though, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought Frontier’s battle system was terrible. What I hated the most honestly was those expendable booster things, the amount of times I was about to KO an opponent, only for them to start spamming defense up was kinda infuriating. lol
The first two fossil fighters though, absolutely love them, granted I say this for almost every DS game I played, but the first two games played a huge part in my life.
Have you played spectrobes? I remember a digging minigame in it where you blow into the microphone to blow off the dust. And maybe between send fossil into a machine to bring it back to life if I'm remembering that right.
Omg I LOVE THAT GAME SWITCH BRING IT BACK OR DISNEY BRING IT BACK
This game had so much potential to be a kid's Pokemon or Digimon
I remember playing frontier for the first time about a year ago. I heard it was bad but while playing it I didn't hate it that much. Felt it was the weakest of the much but I was just coasting along. Trying to enjoy it as much that I could.
That was until I got to the final boss. It took me 5 hours to beat the boss only because my stupid AI controlled partners so fucking stupid. I probably could have made it easier if I grinded up the plot vivisaur but I had already done that for carchar as he was always my favorite, and grinding is so fucking slow in the game
Also they made carchar ugly as shit he's the worst redesign
The same thing happened to me.
I had that happen to me in like my 3rd or 4th playthrough of frontier, cause yes while it isn’t anything amazing it is nowhere near as bad as he made it out to be. I enjoyed playing through it and wanting to at least go through it a couple times with different partners to try new things and really it is a pretty fun experience, it’s just that damn final boss that is always frustrating
My childhood right here. Literally my favorite game that I will still go back and play.
I got two of FF and FFC so I could fight myself since nobody else I knew had a copy
21:49 I have to wonder about how similar that actually is considering they tried to replace Pikachu with a female version of the Rum Tum Tiger.
FF GANG RISE UP THERE'S A RUMOR OF A REMAKE COMING TO THE SWITCH I KNOW THIS IS OPTIMISTIC THINKING BUT GOD I WANT MY CHILDHOOD TO COME BACK. I need to basically deconstruct my house to try and find the cartridges for the first two games.
There was a game similar to fossil fighters called spectrobes it has fossil resurrecting and all extremely good game but unfortunately Disney owned the game so it go discontinued
I remember seeing the marketing for that.
This game was my childhood! One of the first games I ever played. I remember buying Champions just about two years ago, and I loved it. Not as much as the OG, but it was still extremely solid, and the Vivosaurs all looked great! I also loved the idea of more fossil rocks, and evolution as well. Frontier straight pissed me off tho. I hated the car aspect, the characters were all bland and boring, the plotting was utterly half assed, and the Vivosaur designs were straight garbage. Some look kinda cool ig, but they took the artstyle that made the OG designs so great, and just absolutely butchered it. Also, I absolutely HATE how they made the duckbill dinosaurs look. In the original and Champions, they were badass kung fu fighters or something. They looked awesome. In here, they’re ugly fat abominations! I don’t know how you can screw up designs so badly. Also, Charchar looks absolutely horrible in Frontier. Look at that head! I could honestly rant about everything I hated about Frontier for hours on end. It’s in my top 10 worst games ever made for sure