Y0urPas5word$ucks and Here's Why

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    Brian's "friend" hacked Jason's LotR Online account on first guess with "youshallnotpassword" and then "convinced" "Brian," who is totally not his own friend, to spearhead an episode on password security so that Jason can go back to securely hobbit frolicking or whatever else you're supposed to do in that game.
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    NIST's guidelines
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    Naked Security on Sophos
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    XKCD comic
    xkcd.com/936/
    XKCD explanation
    explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.ph...
    Numberphile explains the enigma machine
    • Flaw in the Enigma Cod...
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    passwordmeter.com/
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    This episode was made with the help of:
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  • @ModernRogue
    @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +197

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    • @arndegothia1412
      @arndegothia1412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      first reply?

    • @matthewmccarthy2740
      @matthewmccarthy2740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Modern Rogue i FuCk!n LUv ye'Re v1de0s. Keep it up lads

    • @nabilahmed6583
      @nabilahmed6583 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Modern Rogue do you guys know how to make a blue lagoon? I am sure Trever does...

    • @ajvladmir2481
      @ajvladmir2481 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Modern Rogue what if your tech does not have double locks?

    • @SavepointCafe
      @SavepointCafe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here's a good tip, there are real world things that have complicated combinations of characters and letters. Think of your sound system's full model name, a full name for a car including engine size and spec. They will very easy for you to remember, but a tough nut to crack for anyone else.

  • @aleistergein114
    @aleistergein114 6 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    I have the best defense of all against bank hacking: a negative balance.

  • @wienerschnietzel8983
    @wienerschnietzel8983 6 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    Fun fact: according to the password strength check website I found, the title of this episode is a pretty secure password.

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      hah! That's awesome. enjoy your thumbs-up, sir.

    • @NovemberOrWhatever
      @NovemberOrWhatever 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Estimating strength of password "Y0urPas5word$ucks":
      Approx time to crack: 3 minutes
      (in seconds): 74.066
      Strength score (1-5): 1
      Entropy estimate (bits): 20.498
      How the password "Y0urPas5word$ucks" was broken into parts:
      0:
      pattern: dictionary
      i: 0
      j: 3
      token: Y0ur
      matched_word: your
      rank: 27
      dictionary_name: english
      l33t: true
      sub:
      0: o
      sub_display: 0 -> o
      base_entropy: 4.754887502163469
      uppercase_entropy: 1
      l33t_entropy: 1
      entropy: 6.754887502163469
      1:
      pattern: dictionary
      i: 4
      j: 11
      token: Pas5word
      matched_word: password
      rank: 1
      dictionary_name: passwords
      l33t: true
      sub:
      5: s
      sub_display: 5 -> s
      base_entropy: 0
      uppercase_entropy: 1
      l33t_entropy: 1.5849625007211563
      entropy: 2.584962500721156
      2:
      pattern: dictionary
      i: 12
      j: 16
      token: $ucks
      matched_word: sucks
      rank: 762
      dictionary_name: passwords
      l33t: true
      sub:
      $: s
      sub_display: $ -> s
      base_entropy: 9.573647187493323
      uppercase_entropy: 0
      l33t_entropy: 1.5849625007211563
      entropy: 11.15860968821448

    • @theX24968Z
      @theX24968Z 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Intel had a video i remember a while ago showing that basically said how "c0mPl3x!ty < length" or something like that. typed that phrase right there in quotes and showed how long it would take to break.

    • @wienerschnietzel8983
      @wienerschnietzel8983 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I guess the site I found was crap then ;)

    • @clintonleonard5187
      @clintonleonard5187 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's technically good, but it uses common substitutions that would be easy to guess.

  • @chiefshack7865
    @chiefshack7865 6 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    "The Longer the better" - Jason Murphy 2017

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      I mean... he's not wrong.

    • @tyleralbert7717
      @tyleralbert7717 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      “Suck it Brushwood!” - Jason Murphy 2017

    • @agent0422
      @agent0422 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's what she said

    • @iWinRar
      @iWinRar 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chief Shack but the question is I'm not enough...

    • @theX24968Z
      @theX24968Z 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Intel had a video i remember seeing that basically said how "c0mPl3x!ty < length" or something like that

  • @disgruntled181
    @disgruntled181 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    My favorite, I think from Steve Corell: I Change all my passwords to "incorrect". So whenever I forget, it says, "your password is incorrect"

  • @PDeRop
    @PDeRop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "I AM VERY PROUD OF MY PASSWORD MAKING SKILLS" -- Brian sings after typing his most secret password on a site, who's owner he does not know and intention he has not learned. That password is now on a secret list to hack Brian Brushwood somwhere in Russia or USA :)

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      well, also it's a dead password from long ago...

  • @EliteProductions3129
    @EliteProductions3129 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Not a fan of online password managers. Sounds like a company with a massive target on its back to me. No company is flawless; breaches and exploits are going to happen. It's just a matter of time, especially if it gains popularity.

    • @MrAlucardDante
      @MrAlucardDante 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah same thing for me, I just a have a fairly good password (78% according to password meter) and 2FA

    • @Minkafighter
      @Minkafighter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      LastPass had breaches already, but the passwords are encrypted on their servers, so the hackers still cant get your passwords, as the password will only be decrypted on your Computer.

    • @woltews
      @woltews 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      FISA warrant

    • @tonymason6637
      @tonymason6637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is exactly correct. All you're doing by putting passwords in a password manager is giving hackers access to everything once they exploit it - and it WILL be exploited.

    • @BoJaN4464
      @BoJaN4464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Really old comment here but as it's one of the top comments on this video I feel I should add some things:
      - Passwords are encrypted clientside with 256-bit encryption so even the company can't decrypt them.
      - Your main password is never sent to the company and is only used to encrypt/decrypt your passwords before sending them to the server over an encrypted connection.
      - All password managers recommend, or even require two factor authentication and if you're not using it, you're asking for trouble.
      So, any attackers will need access to either [your password AND your phone] or [the servers AND your password].
      I'll also leave this little snippet from the brute-force attack page on wikipedia:
      "Breaking a symmetric 256-bit key by brute force requires 2^128 times more computational power than a 128-bit key. Fifty supercomputers that could check a billion billion (10^18) AES keys per second (if such a device could ever be made) would, in theory, require about 3×10^51 years to exhaust the 256-bit key space."

  • @deonblack8139
    @deonblack8139 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Starwar's Password?" "I 've retired that one... Long ago..." So close... Should have said, ""A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."

  • @Wkterr
    @Wkterr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This episode is spot on! When I do penetration testing, password reuse is one of my favorite things to exploit! What's even better is when people used to use the same password everywhere, but now has switched to using a password manager... USING THEIR OLD PASSWORD AS THE MASTER PASSWORD! Talking about making my job easy.

    • @spaghettisama
      @spaghettisama 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wkterr that's exactly what makes me sceptical about password managers, because if you can crack the password for the password manager, you get all the passwords! And if one of those password managers' servers get cracked, then what? I've opted to just write down all my passwords on a sheet of paper that I keep in my wallet and on the wall next to my PC.

    • @Wkterr
      @Wkterr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you keep your passwords written down somewhere, don't tell the entire world where you keep them...
      About password managers: A properly implemented password manager will not see its users passwords compromised if their central servers are compromised. Users passwords should be stored encrypted on the server, and only be decrypted on the actual client itself. How do you know if a password manager is securely implemented tho? Well, that's a story for another time when we advocate for open source software.
      Anyhow, yes, one of the downsides with password managers is that if your master password gets compromised, all your stored passwords are compromised too. There are ways to work around that, such as keeping your password manager on a 2nd offline device and typing in your passwords manually, but most people won't accept such an inconvenience. Personally, I just try to keep the amount of important accounts I have to a minimum so that I can remember all my passwords without having to write them down, and use a password manager for the less important stuff.

    • @kingpotato7183
      @kingpotato7183 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wkterr penetration testing?
      That sounds kinky

    • @Wkterr
      @Wkterr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If only you knew how much action that phrase has given me...
      (Hint: None, because as fat computer nerd I'm not very sexy)

    • @Minkafighter
      @Minkafighter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      But if you use TWA on the Password Managers, wont they be as secure as it can get?

  • @jadenhenderson1451
    @jadenhenderson1451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    "strip him of EVERYTHING" -Brian, 2017

    • @bgruett422
      @bgruett422 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jaden Henderson I think Jason said that

  • @billbill6094
    @billbill6094 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    This video (or, more accurately, the day of the week this video was uploaded on) confused my world. I thought "what, the Modern Rogue uploaded, is it Friday?! Is life even real?! Is the universe a hologram?! How am I eating this food when 'there is no spoon?!'" So, as you can tell, when you change your uploading schedule by one day, it can give a person an existential crisis. A little warning next time.

    • @Maninawig
      @Maninawig 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      bill bill read their laptop

    • @Ebolson1019
      @Ebolson1019 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But today is Thursday

    • @Dalemoooooon
      @Dalemoooooon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I knew it couldn't have been a coincidence that that theory was used in a comment 4 hours after Kurzgesagt released a video on it.

  • @nicholassteiner8340
    @nicholassteiner8340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s insane. When I was a kid, I used “Star Wars” for the password on my old computer. (The computer and hard drive are long gone.) as an adult, I realize that it wasn’t the most amazing password in the world. But, I had no idea so many other people had the same password.

  • @harrywhitlock5470
    @harrywhitlock5470 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    My steam account was literally hacked today but meh two-step verification on my email stopped that bugger! The hacker then tried to sign into my email! My SMS two-step verification stopped the hacker again! This is the second time a hacker has lost lol!

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      nice!

    • @harrywhitlock5470
      @harrywhitlock5470 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Two-step certification OP!

    • @harrywhitlock5470
      @harrywhitlock5470 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Vertification* lol

    • @elaquen7
      @elaquen7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a similar problem with my Facebook account. Two-step verification saved me there as well! I got an SMS 'Use XXXXXX to log into your Facebook account.' I changed my password immediately after.

    • @Impetuss
      @Impetuss 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2FA is great, everyone should use it

  • @DeerBonesBaby
    @DeerBonesBaby 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    when I was younger my first Runescape password was "Farts"

  • @Lizard-813
    @Lizard-813 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Serious question: How worried should I be about LastPass (or any other password managing software) being compromised and/or stealing my passwords themselves?

    • @iiRaptusGaming
      @iiRaptusGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      LastPass themselves don't even have access to your passwords, the company has been hacked multiple times and none of the passwords stored in LastPass have been compromised. The most you'll ever have to do if LastPass gets hacked is change your master password and that's just an extra precaution.

    • @robertwhelan4620
      @robertwhelan4620 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lizard813 if you're really worried about it use something like keepass instead and keep the database and key file on a usb stick. obviously don't leave it plugged in when you're not using it.

    • @sislmira
      @sislmira 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appart from other points from other people you can use yubikey + lastpass combination ( which I m doing) which is like overkill and I guess for user like me more than enough. I´m using last pass for some time and curentlly it is superB program.

    • @samhorman5983
      @samhorman5983 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can always create your own encryption service which runs local on your machine, like if you run windows just encrypt a .txt file with your passwords. Passwords which would obviously be randomly generated.

    • @liquidminds
      @liquidminds 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lastpass uses your master-password to encrypt your passwords. So they have no access to the plain-text and cannot de-crypt it easily.
      If they had malicious intent, they could just grab your login data and store it, but if they do that once and someone finds out, their brand is done. They can close their business. They rely on a good reputation, otherwise they won't survive.
      You should never feel 100% secure with anything you do. There is always a risk remaining. But the risks with using last-pass are definitely smaller than with other comparable password-systems, since the passwords are encrypted and stored in the cloud, making them safe and accessible.

  • @cadetri9716
    @cadetri9716 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm very happy with how your channel is coming about. Been a fan since around 100k, and I'm really happy for your success! I hope that even when you get really big you keep making videos like this!

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks so much, man. Makes my day to hear.

  • @Skrzelik
    @Skrzelik 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Plottwist: there was a keylogger installed on that laptop

  • @boru3413
    @boru3413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "What are you Shaggy?"
    haven't heard that reference in years

  • @oreskec
    @oreskec 6 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    episode about password security, and then at 14:02 they enter their passwords at some randon website over a "Not secure" network. nice job

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      and?

    • @oreskec
      @oreskec 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well, that's not secure (bad practice). Also you crashed their site, it's been down to half an hour hahaha

    • @bgruett422
      @bgruett422 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      oreskec they said that they replaced all the passwords they put onto the site

    • @ExodusisThere
      @ExodusisThere 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There is the possibility that they log and sell information. even if they don't tell you doesn't mean they don't do it. Checking things like auto fill, search history, and cookies can let them know exactly where to use the passwords. I hurt a bit seeing you do that. Also just the number of characters eliminates about 50 percent of the guesswork.

    • @joel.stewart
      @joel.stewart 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Checking for an SSL connection should be another segment of the video itself. No matter how secure of a password one uses, sending it over an unencrypted channel negates the value of it. Many users are unaware of what an SSL channel is and the true vulnerability not using one can lead to...perhaps a future video topic. (Yes, 2FA still prevents unauthorized access here.)

  • @ricksattler682
    @ricksattler682 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using LastPass forever, swear by it. It's amazing how many passwords you have when you start logging them. Having each one unique and not having to remember them is awesome. I wish 2FA was more prevalent, particularly in the banking industry.
    Enjoyed the vid. Keep up the good work :)

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Rick Sattler glad you liked it!

  • @corbingarrett1206
    @corbingarrett1206 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the things I do with my passwords is nicknames of people important to me, combined with a date that's important to our relationship, combined with a description of the activities we did on that day. It's things only known to me and that other person, and it's generally long, which is as you said is one of the biggest factors in security.

  • @domesticcat1725
    @domesticcat1725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This show is like a crossover between mythbusters and teleshopping

  • @davidrahn9903
    @davidrahn9903 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Putting your passwords for all your vital things into a random jank looking website that is not a verified https domain is the smartest thing I have seen all week. Besides that fun video gentlemen.

  • @krzysztofbandyk168
    @krzysztofbandyk168 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also is using a different language for your password better or worse as its a detail thats easy to figure out about you (that you know that language) or is it better becouse its less wide spread like english is?

  • @_.-.
    @_.-. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Around 20 random characters with no correlation to each other forcefully memorized for each account ever. I win.

    • @mac922
      @mac922 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elder Eggplant my password is 32 digits of a section of python codes from a certain game with the code itself transfered from c+ to java and then put in python

    • @MrFoniek
      @MrFoniek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and I thought I was the boss with my 9 digit password of random letters and numbers

    • @messy_messenger
      @messy_messenger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Logan McNabb Mine is a dick recognition program that requires a studio quality picture and a fingerprint reading of the tip.

    • @kingpotato7183
      @kingpotato7183 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elder Eggplant why not write it on a piece of paper

    • @Dredbot-hj7gy
      @Dredbot-hj7gy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My password is 42 characters.
      Oh Crap!
      Now I gotta change my password!

  • @romasromas73
    @romasromas73 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your videos, Modern Rogue! Keep up the good work.

  • @fakjbf3129
    @fakjbf3129 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually there was a flaw in the design of the Enigma machine which allowed the Allies to crack it, but yes the flawed human users were a contributing factor. Numberphile has a great video on it, well worth a watch.

    • @vara202
      @vara202 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure I'd call it a flaw when the solution to it was "invent the computer"

  • @wallrunner7635
    @wallrunner7635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Modern Rogue: "Your password sucks"
    Me: *Sweats Nervously*

  • @loganisanerd5566
    @loganisanerd5566 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MR: Says phrase passwords are secure vs random passwords
    Also MR: Look at how secure this character jumble is

  • @FunBoysGaming
    @FunBoysGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    We need an episode on cigars!

  • @amosbackstrom5366
    @amosbackstrom5366 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The number one way to not get hacked is don't tell anyone your password. How do most drug dealers get caught? They told someone they shouldn't have. Everyone would be safer if they kept their collective fucking mouths shut

    • @djoakeydoakey1076
      @djoakeydoakey1076 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Amos Backstrom How is the drug trade these days?

    • @nathanpeterson8011
      @nathanpeterson8011 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack Barr Johnston but it is if they tell someone else (or make a copy of the key for someone else) their point is still valid

    • @amosbackstrom5366
      @amosbackstrom5366 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack Barr Johnston Well your friend might keep your account logged in on their phone, then someone else gets on their shit.

    • @sjege
      @sjege 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amos Backstrom I had someone log in on my phone once. He clicked allow on every thing without looking and I now have access to his mothers agenda, his contacts and emails.

    • @TheWindowIsTranspare
      @TheWindowIsTranspare 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin Mitnick (who coined the term "Social Engineering") has always said that the weakest point of any security system is the user. He recounts the story of how he cracked the police's secure lines by getting some basic information on what system they used and using that to convince a dispatcher to give over the secure password and admin number.
      There's also a story out of...I think DefCon...where a team won the event's "Capture the Flag" competition by tricking a security guard to give them access to the server room. Five minutes of basic computer use, and they'd won.
      Take yourself out of the equation. Use an algorithm like "First letters of a very long sentence no one could guess" or "8-character secret key no one could guess followed by the letter 'a' 56 times" for your key locker, then never give a single hint to what your password could be. Change your passwords from the secure site itself, and never from an email (even if it looks legit).
      And, for the love of all that is good, don't do those Facebook quizzes that take your name and ask for personal information to give you your "stripper name" or something. That's an easy way to give up information on your security questions.
      EDIT: I use neither of those algorithms. Nice try.

  • @adamkimmV
    @adamkimmV 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most important thing with passwords is to have a different password for each site you're using. Because the number one way that people get hacked is because there is one leak, on one website, and they will use a bot to sign in to a banking site, or amazon using the emails, and passwords they got from that leak.
    It's very rare for someone to be specifically targeting you, so even changing a single character in each password is going to make your accounts more secure. If you really want to be secure use a password generator, and write your passwords onto a piece of paper, or use an encrypted password manager.

  • @micahphilson
    @micahphilson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, learning German, I was thinking the whole time of passwords in English and German, then I realized that mixing words from other languages into one password would work amazingly! It may not be a word the software would guess at all (particularly obscure words), and it's very unlikely that it would pick random words from 3 or 4 languages and mix 4 full dictionaries to find it! *I STUMBLED UPON THE PERFECT SECRET!* Random foreign obscure swears!
    Especially if you also add umlauts, accents, and Ñ if possible in that password service.

  • @grantarnold8584
    @grantarnold8584 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Anyone know his cats name

  • @fizizy6415
    @fizizy6415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    LastPass is cool because you only have to remember 1 master password and the rest can be 100 Digit random characters that you never have to remember.

    • @nopenope7184
      @nopenope7184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Fizizy and then someone can get your 100 passwords with 1% of he effort

    • @Minkafighter
      @Minkafighter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Nope Nope Not really, you can use 2Way-Auth on Lastpass aswell...

    • @ViviSectia
      @ViviSectia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      2FA is securer than just a password but it's not completely secure and some of the weaker implementation aren't much better than just a single password. The fact that some really important passwords are guaranteed to be in LastPass makes it worth the effort for an attacker to spend the time to crack it. Besides, everything gets hacked eventually.

    • @danielpimenta4788
      @danielpimenta4788 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      until last pass is hack and all their passwords are leak. (Already happen once)

    • @Sitzkrieg
      @Sitzkrieg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A couple years ago someone did an SQL injection on last pass and almost everyone's info was robbed. Last Pass almost went out of business, and if it weren't for their strong supporters they would be definitely dead. 2FA is very secure from someone knowing your password, but another (stronger) SQL injection could do this all over again. I would never recommend using an online bank to keep your passwords because of how they have a tendency to get breached.

  • @snakejawz
    @snakejawz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the easiest combinations to use is Pass-phrasing, pick two to three random words, add/remove spaces, add/remove capitals, add/remove special characters and you have a nearly impossible password that's still relatively easy to remember.

  • @NYR14477
    @NYR14477 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that disclaimer at the end about the passwords. You know someone was trying to look at them and be naughty lol

  • @jonasls
    @jonasls 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brian's email password:
    Length: 13
    Uppercase: No
    Symbols: No
    Lowercase: 8
    Numbers: 5
    ??????X??[0-9][

  • @TheDarkHorseUprising
    @TheDarkHorseUprising 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if you get an old password for gmail and the victim has a youtube account you can use when was this account created as a security question! the answer will be on the youtube about page.

    • @RussellTeapot
      @RussellTeapot 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ow that's dumb as fuck, I didn't know that

  • @robertkorhonen9417
    @robertkorhonen9417 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you said "why wouldn't a person have a second lock on their door, would they just rather leave it open all the time? haHAA" you have to think about how practical it is for certain services to ask for multiple "keys" to a "door".
    Sure, I'll use as many security measures to secure my bank account, but I'm not going to barricade my door every time I go to the store to pick up milk.
    All and all this might have sounded like an angry rant, but I really enjoyed this video and I feel like you overlooked practicality. :)

  • @aettic
    @aettic ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a password manager because of a personal recommendation from a friend. Highly recommend finding one. LastPass is solid, as is 1Password, and Nord's password manager. The trick is, you have to actually use it. The other trick is, be aware that the master password you use is crucial to keep secret. Do not write it anywhere unless it's on paper in a safe or something. Make it something memorable, but also difficult to guess, etc. LastPass and 1Password are named that way because the master password should be the only password you need to remember. From there, you can (and should) use strong passwords for everything, which you don't need to remember.

  • @jkerman5113
    @jkerman5113 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you guys actually kidding? Why would you give all your passwords to one website? Someone can just hack that website.

    • @MrImachickenlol
      @MrImachickenlol 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      which is why they changed their passwords lol

  • @ryansnyder4806
    @ryansnyder4806 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A bit a of a trick I've used for passwords (as a math major and a nerd) is that I write 2 or 3 numbers nearby my computer, and then I have a series of equations that I run those numbers through, now only I know the equations is easy to remember, so if I forget my password is 123893754803245623643924132, It's relatively easy to type those 2 or 3 numbers through the calculator on my phone in an order that only I know but use for all my passwords. So I can safely keep all my passwords written down without actually writing them down. And since letters are more secure than numbers I can have different number strings correlate to letters or words.

  • @jonathanhikes5140
    @jonathanhikes5140 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! Thanks for doing this topic Brian and Jason. I'm changing all my passwords today.

  • @TigerScreem
    @TigerScreem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Making all your weaknesses able to be found in one place.....smart... legitimately same scenario as having all your passwords the same because they only have one obstacle to overcome to get all your info... thats like hiding something from a tolder inside their toy box.... the net is what hackers play with, just because its out of your hands doesnt make it safe, write it down, put it on paper, hide paper.... unaccessible to hackers period

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      that makes perfect sense, if you truly believe you're better than a team of full-time professionals you'd hire to handle your security.
      Are you claiming that you're better than a team of full-time professionals at protecting your security?

    • @TigerScreem
      @TigerScreem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nope im saying paper is, thnx for reply none the less, big fan :)

    • @oscarsmith3942
      @oscarsmith3942 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The important difference is that by using the same password, you are reliant on the worst secured website that you use, whereas with Lastpass or keypass, a problem would have to be found in one specific site that presumably cares a lot about protecting passwords.

    • @MisterL2_yt
      @MisterL2_yt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LastPass does put you at a single point of weakness, sure, and once LastPass is hacked and the passwords are leaked that's a big problem, but other than that it's safer than the other alternatives.
      As for "unacessible for hackers" that's only true if you use a proper cryptic password AND have no keylogger or similar on your PC. Any other password, especially ones that contain common words, can be guessed using brute force. If you want to evaluate how strong a password is that uses common words, treat every word like its 2 random letters and then evaluate the length of guessing. The comic at 3:50 is entirely wrong in this regard. The password on the bottom with 4 common words is essentially as secure as 8 random characters. Since the original uses no capitalisation either, we'll use none in our comparison. So you can say it would take a little over a minute to brute force that password.

    • @underdoneelm7721
      @underdoneelm7721 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But a password manager can't have their password database leaked because they don't have one. The passwords are encrypted with a one-time pad the key of which is the current hash of your password. If you try using an incorrect password you'll just get the wrong passwords back. Since the key is essentially random (due to the avalanche effect) and the passwords are actually random, all possible passwords are equally likely. In other words, your password manger doesn't tell them anything.

  • @Jack_Dab
    @Jack_Dab 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This reminds me to change my YT password since its shit

    • @Dredbot-hj7gy
      @Dredbot-hj7gy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      INB4 his password is literally "shit"

    • @silvanomazzu4256
      @silvanomazzu4256 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No its "since it's shit"

    • @Marizyth
      @Marizyth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SvMazz its "it's

    • @silvanomazzu4256
      @silvanomazzu4256 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheMarijn27 you got me there

    • @Wehra96
      @Wehra96 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      my steam password was Fuckingbullshitpassword up until a year or two ago when i got keepass and i got 2 step on everything that matters.

  • @slendeaway7730
    @slendeaway7730 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys always have the best passwords... er... sponsors!

  • @CurtisWaltermire
    @CurtisWaltermire 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using Last Pass for months now and absolutely love it! Add a VPN and you feel invincible online...

  • @arndegothia1412
    @arndegothia1412 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    sup

  • @LTT.Official
    @LTT.Official 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Look at my username, you think my password is short?

    • @ModernRogue
      @ModernRogue  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      hahahaha

    • @BurninGems
      @BurninGems 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Your password is:
      TIAPLUNWTFWHDTSTEWTUI!

    • @Dredbot-hj7gy
      @Dredbot-hj7gy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I *know* your password is short.

  • @SerratusAnterior
    @SerratusAnterior 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah you guys ant the MR keep uploading stuff like this man. How can I not love you guys

  • @ramonrommers5387
    @ramonrommers5387 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the end when they put their own passwords I got very worried for them, cause exactly these kind of websites are used to spoof you, because the password you enter you have used once, are using or will use in the future. As an analist here this is very scary.

  • @NovemberOrWhatever
    @NovemberOrWhatever 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hash and salt my friends, hash and salt

  • @tmn36
    @tmn36 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just search random password generator on google and save it

    • @rippah669
      @rippah669 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      tmn36 don't completely trust online ones cause they'll commonly pull from a bank of passwords or log passwords you've used. It's safer to use one that's downloaded and delete it when you're done

    • @soundninja99
      @soundninja99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or just use lastpass. It generates it for you.

    • @ExodusisThere
      @ExodusisThere 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      chill dude

    • @HRRRRRDRRRRR
      @HRRRRRDRRRRR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm with tmn36, use a "random" password generator!

    • @magicking577
      @magicking577 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kee2Pass is pretty awesome.

  • @Halo3machenima
    @Halo3machenima 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I often write a word and then encrypt it with a Caesar Cipher (like Vigenere Cipher) and then use the result as a password. So that way it is pretty much a seemingly random letter sequence (often with a couple numbers added for good measure) and not a word someone could guess.

    • @Halo3machenima
      @Halo3machenima 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Randomness, either by hand or computer, is still not truly random. Only nature can be random, and even then there are normally recognizable patterns in most cases. Also, as already mentioned in the video, coherent words are too easily guessed by a hacker because of the human factor. So a passphrase is still not secure enough. A seemingly random string created via an encryption algorithm is about the same as any other computer generated "randomness". Even the best "random number generators" still use an exploitable algorithm as that is what computers are bound by: Math. They can't go against their programmed logic. It is still better than "human randomness" however as the computer could use any number of possible algorithms that are hard to guess, but a human is limited literally by their imagination. Or in other words, their pattern loving nature.

  • @PaulyM856
    @PaulyM856 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't stop laughing at the way Brian said, "You have a bad friend." XD XD XD XD

  • @metrazol
    @metrazol 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Hmm, why did Brian change all his... !" "Ooooooooh."

  • @nikopack7571
    @nikopack7571 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally used to login to my preschool teacher’s computer whenever she left the classroom. She’d change the password almost everyday, yet I could still get in. Good times...

  • @Vorance
    @Vorance 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a mixture of 3 either words or names, make it 4-6 characters long combining the words, then take a random number generator to get 4-8 characters, through in some random allowed symbols and put it through a jumbler. Rinse and repeat for every password with different words and numbers, get lastpass and store them there, you'll eventually remember them over time but it does take a long while

  • @originalkhawk
    @originalkhawk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    two factor is the worst in the way it works in most cases, where if you have acces to the phone or sometimes even phone number, you can use that to reset a password and get in the acount that way, essentially making 2 factor just 1 factor. i work in IT and i have a pretty good ground in cyber security and the amount of people that got their acounts compromised because they had set up 2 factor you wouldnt belive, so if a site offers 2 factor please make sure its for login only and you cant just reset the acount password with the phone number or phone, if this is the case DONT USE 2 factor, in that case just a storng password or as they would call it in cyber a passphrase is the better option, and ofcourse never repeat a password and make sure you have as few acounts linked as possible so if one gets hacked in to or compromised the others are likely to be safe

  • @SerifSansSerif
    @SerifSansSerif 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another thing... Well two things that are kinda related.
    First is using guest checkout. For most sites, if you can go without a password, you're better off. It would be nice if this was more of a standard than not for commerce sites. Furthermore, most of our site interactions aren't storing useful information. Social media sites SHOULDN'T store birthdates, phone numbers, addresses, etc. but rely solely on people sharing their usernames personally with their family, friends, etc. It's a bad practice that shouldn't have ever been put into place. Treat everything you can as a burner account. (the closest we have other than the above mentioned "guest accounts" is that some credit cards offer rotational one time use CC numbers, [and in m line of work I have seen this used for one particular business where an email is sent with a one time use CC number, and I have also dealt with a business specific CC number where only one business is whitelisted for transactions with it, but these rely on the CC companies and users rather than using a "guest pass" system as a business end default).
    If you want to set up an account for the purposes of saved history and such, that's fine. Keep it separate from transactional data. I know with NJ, paying state taxes allows for people to log in and see certain information with just a business name and a tax ID #, but you can't actually pay your taxes or do any sort of modification/transactions without logging in with the business name and password.
    A differentiation between what information needs to be encrypted and what does not should also be a standard. My netflix account and playlist shouldn't require much to get in, but to access the account or pay my bill should. (and since often that is autopaid, really, you could have an 800 number with some automated menu to update any billing related issues, which would remove access to this info from the web. In short, if we didn't USE a highly insecure system (the web) to story highly sensitive data, passwords wouldn't be a huge issue.

  • @JohnStrangerGalt
    @JohnStrangerGalt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad you made an episode about this since secure passwords are so undervalued. I also understand lastpass sponsored the video but I think you are doing a disservice to people by not listing options.

  • @TheRookie121
    @TheRookie121 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another tip for using password managers. Back the passwords up in another password manager (KeePass for example). Or have a backup on a usb.
    Maybe make two backups.

  • @roycebracket
    @roycebracket 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    By showing something that was cut in the video itself, does that inherently make it uncut from the video?

  • @heidibaltom8138
    @heidibaltom8138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    An IT person once told my friend "think of a song and use the 1st letter of the word of lines" so you can sing the song in your head and type the 1st letter. I dont use that but thats one way of remembering long passwords

  • @MichaelLeung2011
    @MichaelLeung2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an IT guy, your password won't do shit to protect you. As long as their database has a breach, we are all fucked up

  • @ThePanchEffect
    @ThePanchEffect 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see that the password meter has no https secure conection... should i go hide under a desk if I check my passwords there?

  • @phaelin
    @phaelin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not comfortable with storing pw's in the cloud. Is it possible to put it on a secure usb drive (with backup naturally)?

  • @ClassyViking
    @ClassyViking 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to that Password Meter site used in the video, "Summer2017!" is a 100% strong password. Please don't assume an algorithm on a website can tell you if your password is strong or not.

  • @kenwelch198
    @kenwelch198 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw in a movie, guy had a magazine subscription and changed his password to the number/ letter code on the mailing label every month the latest issue came out. Sounds like it might work.

  • @itaialter
    @itaialter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bitly link that should go to LastPass' website opens a new tab which immediately closes for some reason.

  • @BusterBeachside
    @BusterBeachside 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If they told me to put in my passwords for that contest, I'd be like, "Well, all of my passwords are just randomly-generated gibberish stored in LastPass", haha. Of course, before I found LastPass, I was one of those poor sods who didn't even have a wall-- I mean, used the same password for every website, with small variations when there were "rules" to be followed. Bonus points if you caught the reference.

  • @MrBlack0950
    @MrBlack0950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two factor verification:
    Having two different keys, one being the handle lock, the other being the top lock.

  • @MsJavaWolf
    @MsJavaWolf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This about this nightmare scenario: You have created a 36 characters password, completely random, actually you wrote a random number generator in your favourite programming language, on a laptop, that was freshly formated and never connected to the internet. You have used it, to protect your cryptos, now you have forgotten it.

  • @ItsNikoSlater
    @ItsNikoSlater 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did I know before the video started that this was an ad for LastPass...

  • @fimbles1015
    @fimbles1015 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have many unsecure accounts with the password "password" These are usually on websites i have very little interest in or dont plan to visit often. Is this the reason why password still remains as number two?

  • @Impetuss
    @Impetuss 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Passwords with words, a symbol between them and a number at end is easy to remember but hard to brute force, for example: Disk-Nails-Container-Coconut-2

  • @Stargate2077
    @Stargate2077 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about KeePass? It has the password management without the online repository.

  • @JimFenton
    @JimFenton 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very clear explanation of the new guidelines!

    • @BrandtHughes
      @BrandtHughes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn't have done it without presentations like yours helping us figure things out along the way! Hopefully the new guidelines gain wide adoption sooner rather than later.

  • @AntonioCunningham
    @AntonioCunningham 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I needed this video. Some of my passwords suck. I'll be updating the weak ones as soon as I'm able.

  • @LaraxusArt
    @LaraxusArt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey guys, I'm actually NOT sponsored to say this like they are but I have to agree with the MR guys, LastPass is fantastic for keeping track of super secure passwords. I've used it for about a year and it's really a life saver.

  • @cris_j
    @cris_j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Came for XKCD reference. Time 3:50. If you do it XKCD's way, and use four truly random words, your password will be nigh invulnerable.

  • @MikeTVest
    @MikeTVest ปีที่แล้ว

    One problem with multi-factor authentication, especially push notifications sent to your phone, is MFA fatigue. If people are constantly getting codes sent to the phone and entering them into websites they're more likely to do it without thinking. Which is bad because if someone compromises your password they'll send the push notification and you just push yes without thinking. Or they'll send so many of them one after another that you'll just push 'yes it's me' to stop the MFA flood.

  • @Citizen5101
    @Citizen5101 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Upvoted purely for the new sponsor, LastPass is awesome!

  • @Nein1no
    @Nein1no 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An extremely annoying thing about making long passwords is not that they are long, but instead some websites won't allow you to use say more than 16 characters. This includes many sensitive information websites that you'd totally want more room to have a password as long as you'd like. If a free forum hosting website that nobody really cares about doesn't really limit password length, why in the world does a damn bank limit them? Some even go as far to limit certain characters. WHY? MORE IS BETTER YOU FOOOOOOLS.

  • @johnydecali
    @johnydecali 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, Everquest! Thanks for bringing back memories from almost 20'years ago!... god I'm old 😓

  • @b7a1r3
    @b7a1r3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A note, if you are going to use thins relevant to your life in your password, use obscure ones. For example, my old password was the name of a street I passed everyday when I was in a different state. It's so obscure that even if you saw the name, you wouldn't have any idea what it meant to me

  • @iwansays
    @iwansays 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The biggest flaw of the enigma machine was that a letter never became itself if you typed it into the machine, I think..

  • @splitmac
    @splitmac 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really do like the occasional sit down and discuss episode of Modern Rogue

  • @acocarful
    @acocarful 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe i'm only one who reads description of video, i'm thrilled that Jason play LOTRO didn't know that :)

  • @jahkra9259
    @jahkra9259 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My new password is just gonna be the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise

  • @connorjohnmacdonald9001
    @connorjohnmacdonald9001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is back and triangle 24680 the captain now i wanted hair a good password ?

  • @MrFoniek
    @MrFoniek 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My password is a wrongly remember registration number of a car I saw for 5 seconds when I was on a trip. Every time website says to me "your password is too weak" I wonder who would guess my 3 letter and 6 number completely random combination.

  • @RogueBurger
    @RogueBurger 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "1Password is the only commercial password manager I recommend, but I'll go further than that when it comes to LastPass and say: I really think you should avoid LastPass, and, if you're using it, migrate to something else. I'm not going to go into details, sorry." - Thomas Ptacek, a well-respected security expert.
    Take from that quote what you will, but I personally know that he has a much more experience with password security than I do, so I take he advice on this one.

  • @jek__
    @jek__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good password creation tips are one of those things that disappear when they are observed. If good advice is given to large numbers of people it becomes bad advice. Except length, the longer the stronger. Make it something easy to remember and simple, because then you can make it long
    The ending of the messages is what clued the allies off in where to start looking for patterns, but the fundamental flaw in the enigma machine's algorithm was that there was regularity in its ciphering- it couldn't not randomize every letter to a new letter. That is to say you could guarantee that if a letter of a word started out as an 'a', that it wasn't going to be an 'a' when encoded. I love the irony/tragedy of not being able to not randomize being the key to seeing the pattern

  • @clintonleonard5187
    @clintonleonard5187 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My childhood best friend used the word Dragon in every password he would use. It was always his favorite Yugioh card at the time, which was always a dragon.

  • @AirborneSurfer
    @AirborneSurfer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens when all the biometric data from Apple FaceID gets hacked? Does everyone just have to change their faces?

  • @refraggedbean
    @refraggedbean 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    my password is almost TOO long for the system, and I am testing out last pass, but my current google password is so many of my old passwords combined, and they were already really good alone, and I always add a new bit too when it evolves

  • @SpirusOfH
    @SpirusOfH 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens if you type one of LastPass' passwords into PassWordMeter?

  • @2crowz
    @2crowz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The two passwords I remember having were "Princess33440" and "Minecraft10" before I got more creative.