I'll give the Thai fighter credit, that was some incredibly explosive movement, and he held the Jiujitsu fighter at bay for longer than most people usually do in these videos.
To be honest, that's now how Muay Thai fight, too much jumping, and Muay Thai would definitely aim for the opponent's leg in which they kicked whilst their opponents charged forward, then Muay Thai will use his elbow to attack your head, is how full fledged muay thai fight
@@xelkg.j3425 Imagine if I died 12 years ago, and you replied to a comment of a person that was 12 years dead. How would you feel? I'm not actually dead, by the way.
@@OliverYossif I'm surprised that you replied lol, tbh I don't really care because i don't even know if the person is dead or not, if he's dead, then condolences to him/her. 12 years, wow, how are you doing man?
The "muay thai" guy did everthing wrong, he should have kicked the legs of the jiu-jitsu guy and work with the jab, so that the jiu-jitsu guy didn't project him and then that nice armbar...good for the jiu-jitsu guy!
The Muay Thai guy should've either sprawled over the guy and clinched him, grabbed the jujitsu player's head and knee struck him, or both in different orders. A striker has the advantage of reach over a grappler, but if he doesn't prevent the takedown, or at least reverse it, he's a dead man. A striker flat on his back with a wrestler on top is in deep shit. There are ways a striker can continue to fight while on his back, but they require some distance from his opponent, who could either be standing or on the floor too. If he goes to the floor first and starts using that position on his back to start kicking, he can do some serious damage to the knees, or even sweep the legs out, but that's a last resort. The last place I'd want to be, as a boxer/kickboxer, is on my back.
Se você treinar duas pessoas começando do zero, o lutador de Jiu terá muito mais chances de vencer o que treina apenas Muay Thai. É claro que unir as duas lutas é fundamental, porém, mesmo a luta começando em pé, existe o momento, distância e estudar o oponente pra se levar pro chão. :) Basta saber aplicar a técnica.
O jiu jitsu leva vantagem das lutas de trocação porque geralmente seus praticantes não sabem se defender no chão, enquanto bem ou mal qualquer um consegue se defender em pé. Não é a arte marcial que vence, é o nivel tecnico do praticante. Más no x1 o JJ leva vantagem sobre o muay thai, a maior dificuldade está em derrubar. Más o muay thai é mais recomendado para as ruas que o JJ (minha opnião) sinceramente acho que as duas artes se completam.
Concordo muito com a sua opinião. Jiu Jitsu é mtoo eficiente, mas em uma briga de rua não é ideal cair. Pois pode vim mais de uma pessoa. O Jiu no mano a mano é sinistro, mas o Muay é mais seguro em brigas de rua por exemplo.
Em uma briga de rua, o lutador de jiu pode segurar a perna no chute do cara e derrubar ele, no chão o muay thai n vai conseguir se defender. E também no jiu a gente não vai deitar no chão😅em uma briga de rua claro@@eduardolaia4583
No x1 o jj é insuperável mas tenho medo de levar um jab ou um direto (não treino luta em pé) e apagar ou de cair e chegar alguém chutando minhas costas
El Jiu Jitsu lo que sea de cada quien mis respetos yo creo que si tienes conocimiento de Muay Thai y Jiu Jitsu eres un arma andando, por que el Muay Thai es muy bueno y practico para combates en los cuales estas parado pero una vez entrando en el suelo entras en el territorio del Jiu Jitsu donde fácilmente te hacen cagada. En dado caso para combatirlo es muy dificil uno tendria que tener ciertos conocimientos sobre el Jiu Jitsu para poder defenderte de alguien quien se especializa en eso
Skyler thanks. Great to see someone with your experience posting. The Gracies walked into an octagon with only two rules (no eye gouging, no biting) and beat all comers. More than once. That was a style vs style contest and they showed the merits. Also that they would test it. Aikido for one, refuses to spar or test their mettle. Very telling. Now it is possible to see style vs style and decide which one works for your personal talents. Don't TOUCH aikido or anything unproven. My advice
That wasn't even a Muay Thai guy lol just a joker. Now vice versa, if a Muay Thai guy challenges a good BJJ or wrestler they will catch their leg and take them down.
@@beastfromtheeast422 "if a Muay Thai guy challenges a good BJJ or wrestler they will catch their leg and take them down" if the jiu jitsu guy wants his arm broken trying to catch it, by all means proceed to do so lol
Id argue the other way. I started in straight MT and would always get an underhook or be able to stuff a takedown if it even got to that, but mostly would stick my knee in peoples stomachs or leg kick them to death
@jmurjeff if the guy pulls out a gun what other choice do you have but to try and disarm then run? (or risk another gun or an accomplice) if the guns out isn't the only(first) choice to disarm? or do i have to read the book to know? i know running is the best choice of all(there being a saying i heard once) but isn't there a saying that you should never show your back to your enemy?
Kanglong Yang The Muay Thai man may have just had his first match against a person trying to tactle his legs. If he just drilled for a few months on sprawling, and striking against a tackler/leg grabber, the match would not be so lopsided, and his Muay Thai skiils would show to be very effective with just the addition of some simple "sprawl and brawl knowledge".
Alexander Higgins The BJJ clearly didn't have experience fighting a striker either. He has no clue how to manage his distance, which is something I would really expect from Gracie Academy with as much as Rener talks about it.
Timothy Jones, Jr. No matter what the case, a pure grappler has an advantage over a pure striker, and striking a grappler is a way different skill and posturing technique than striking a striker. That's my opinion, I am a beginner and my opinions could change with time.
Eh foda! Jiu Jitsu é muito bom, Thai tbém! POrém, botar um cara ruim para lutar com alguém do jiu... Eh pedir p ser finalizado!!! Sou praticante de Sandá, sei q pra vencermos uma luta... A estratégia prevalece!!! O cara do Thai queria nocautear, e o Jiujituco fez o que treinou... Aplicou a tecnica mais simples pra finalizar seu adversário! Encaixe um Swing ou um diretaço na cara de qualquer praticante de artes marciais... Não fica um em pé!
Justamente, no muay thai nós treinamos levar porrada! quando vai fazer um embate assim, evita-se os golpes contundentes para não machucar o adversário de uma arte marcial que não tem o mesmo preparo.
Jiu Jitsu é ótimo,quando começei a fazer eu n queria mais parar,pena que tive que fazer isso,e agora estou em uma academia fazendo so muay thai,sem Jiu Jitsu eu me sinto imcompleto.
A diferença entre Muay Thai e Jiu-Jitsu é gritante,visto que ao contrário do Muay Thai não precisa de firulas,é só agir no tempo certo e pronto! Muay Thai e Boxe só tem eficácia dentro do ringue,numa situação real as chances de praticante de Muay Thai se dar bem são mínimas. O Jiu-Jitsu desde sempre provou a sua eficácia tanto dentro quanto fora do Tatame.
Bom, na verdade o cara do muay thai é mesmo fraquinho, inclusive os cruzados que ele da são muito estranhos. No muay thai não usamos proteção de rosto, por isso falei da proteção no cara do JJ. Mas treino é treino.
The best combo to learn is Thai kick boxing and BJJ, and American boxing is probably the best pure hand striking skill around. People shouldn't be afraid to admit weakness in their discipline of fighting, its the only way to learn. I spar with this guy once who swear his boxing skills would neutralize anything thing I could throw at him. He changed his mind mid way down from a side slam. Oh and finished him off with an arm bar to boot. :)
This is WHY even Bruce Lee studied JJ. He knew grappling was ESSENTIAL. See the Lead fight scene in "Enter The Dragon" Bruce Lee uses JJ to finish the fight.
@noose357 Yeah, no problem. I definitely see what you're saying. To me, it seems that this doesn't happen only in Jujutsu. It's very common in other martial arts to only practice for untrained fighters. Judo even taught as a sport is STILL effective in the street, that's what I love about it. Fighting a skilled opponent is a totally different game. And I don't want to say it's poor classes per se, but more a lack of the traditional teachings that make Jujutsu/Judo the complete form it should be.
strikers think they're so awesome, but a grappler only has to get a hold of you once to take you down, and once that happens, the boxer is completely at the mercy of his opponent.
What i love is that anytime an opponent lands a punch on a Bjj guy, it's referred to as a "lucky hit." And you act as if getting somebody in an armbar is dictated entirely by the person doing the armbar. You see how in either case you make it one sided in the favor of bjj?
yea it does. the only street fight i've been in, i beat the dude with a triangle and thats before i knew how to do it properly and a year before i started training. lol. bjj helps you stay calm when you're on your back. it teaches you that theres many ways to change/set the momentum on teh ground
exactly, everyone expects BJJ to just shoot takedowns. Thats a good way to get knocked out against anyone who trains at all. Gotta set up your takedowns. Like i said a good jab and a right straight/hook can be a great distance closer for a takedown, even seen fake leg kicks/ fake single legs work great for setting up
The Gracies used basic strikes to create openings for a clinch to take down. As a BJJ practitioner I feel it important to point out the "BJJ" guy did no such thing and took some bad shots trying to close in. A BJJ ground game without knowledge of how to safely close the distance is not much more then a sport game. That said, that slam had to hurt. The MT guy kind of did a brake fall and kept his head from hitting the ground, but there's no way on concrete that wouldn't have stunned him a bit.
O cara do Jiu Jitsu só ganhou pq o do "muay thai" era muito ruim. Com um lutador de Thai mesmo, ele teria beijado o chao na hora que ficou com a cabeça baixa daquele jeito. Um lutador de verdade de Thai tinha quebrado a boca dele com uma joelhada ou um chute. Mas ta valendo, vitória pro BJJ
I ended up learning bjj because of this. Don't under estimate it. If stand up is your strong point and you have no ground techniques then your only hurting yourself. Find all you're weak points and make them stronger to better yourself as a fighter. Don't be stupid and just stick to one thing and say..ohh its cuz he had pads blah blah. I was taken down everytime by grapplers to the point I had to learn it and now I love it and actually prefer to fight on the ground lol
O "jiu jiteiro" deveria saber que com guarda de grappling contra muay thai fica vulnerável. Se bem que o do Muay Thai também deveria saber e se aproveitar disso...
O cara pode dar joelhadas, pode socar, pode cotovelar, pode ter mais mobilidade, e ele luta colado em um cara que sabe lutar assim? No caso ele deveria manter a distância, aplicar algumas caneladas nas pernas, e quando ele abaixasse para agarrar joelhada e se ele agarra as pernas...empurra a cabeça dele pra baixo e chuva de soco martelando a lata dele.
jiu é foda , no chão não tem pra ninguem , lutador de Muay thai na trocação leva vantagem, mais no chão parece uma tartaruga virada d barriga pra cima!!!!
Its feels like a Crocodile waiting to drag its prey into water. It waits & waits and with a sudden action it drags and the prey is unable to do anything. What ever Jiu Jitsu rocks!!
lol every single person that doesn't have a clue about ground fighting ALWAYS try to push the guy up and then end receiving an arm bar, it's always like this
If you want people to think that your martial arts is the best. You have to beat Muay Thai. It's always been like this. This is a good indication that Muay Thai is the pinnacle of martial arts. Muay Thai has proven that they can defeat their opponents even if they fight under unfavorable rules. They have proven it countless times. To defeat your opponent by not using your strongest weapons like elbows and knees. At the same time, what would happen if jiu jitsu had to fight under disadvantageous rules like Muay Thai? What would happen if you were forbidden to strangle, forbidden to break arms, forbidden to break legs, or forbidden to hug? You can bet that jiu jitsu fighters will never be able to defeat their opponents the way Muay Thai can.
Thing about jiu-jitsu is that it can be used against almost any martial art. Some martial arts have kicks and punches that can end it, if the jiu-jitsu guy dodges your kick, or straight up grabs your leg, than can get you on the floor and just dominate. can't do fancy kicks with a guy mounting you.
2016's New Star Player Because it's origin from Ninjitsu which hybrids with Western wrestling move. All those submission moves used in UFC is mostly Asian killing/Assassins art used probably over 1000s of years.....
I am a bjj guy, but neither fighter looked particularly skilled.
I agree. I practice both and not only their fundamentals are lacking, their weight class is also different. Thus not a fair fight
Life's Short. .. Learn Jiu Jitsu.
... Learn Muay Thai too though. because sometimes people deserve to get smacked
Ground and pound baby.
"Life's Short. .. Learn Jiu Jitsu." makes no sense at all, 15 years ON AVERAGE just to get your black belt ...
A violent man is not a real man
LOS DOS COMBINADOS SON LO MEJOR
VALE TODO ENTONCES! XD
Asi es, ambas disciplinas son las bases del mma
@@MrThony542 ¿De verdad?
Yo práctico ambas disciplinas, aunque el jiu jitsu me resulta más difícil de aplicar una técnica en un combate.
Los dos combinados y te vuelves una máquina!
I'll give the Thai fighter credit, that was some incredibly explosive movement, and he held the Jiujitsu fighter at bay for longer than most people usually do in these videos.
He looked like a Taekwondo guy that just started Muay Thai lol
every one arguing which is superior... why not learn both xD damn
You can learn both yes, but one is superior clearly
I have made a decision to change from Taekwondo and kickboxing to Muy Thai and Bjj
Josh Ortiz Doesn't matter they both have Asian art in it....
Jeffxd GREAT DECISION.
Jeffxd wise
Haha, I love how the Muay Thai fighter just starts flailing when he goes down.
To be honest, that's now how Muay Thai fight, too much jumping, and Muay Thai would definitely aim for the opponent's leg in which they kicked whilst their opponents charged forward, then Muay Thai will use his elbow to attack your head, is how full fledged muay thai fight
@@xelkg.j3425 Imagine if I died 12 years ago, and you replied to a comment of a person that was 12 years dead. How would you feel? I'm not actually dead, by the way.
@@OliverYossif I'm surprised that you replied lol, tbh I don't really care because i don't even know if the person is dead or not, if he's dead, then condolences to him/her. 12 years, wow, how are you doing man?
@@xelkg.j3425 Well, I'm 12 years older than I was 12 years ago, and I'm damn sure glad for that.
I'm glad you're still alive!
Ta walka tylko potwierdza moją teorie że: " sztuki walki w bliskim kontakcie są skuteczniejsze od sztuk walk w otwartym kontakcie "
That armbar was lightning fast.
The "muay thai" guy did everthing wrong, he should have kicked the legs of the jiu-jitsu guy and work with the jab, so that the jiu-jitsu guy didn't project him and then that nice armbar...good for the jiu-jitsu guy!
The Muay Thai guy should've either sprawled over the guy and clinched him, grabbed the jujitsu player's head and knee struck him, or both in different orders. A striker has the advantage of reach over a grappler, but if he doesn't prevent the takedown, or at least reverse it, he's a dead man. A striker flat on his back with a wrestler on top is in deep shit. There are ways a striker can continue to fight while on his back, but they require some distance from his opponent, who could either be standing or on the floor too. If he goes to the floor first and starts using that position on his back to start kicking, he can do some serious damage to the knees, or even sweep the legs out, but that's a last resort. The last place I'd want to be, as a boxer/kickboxer, is on my back.
@@barrettnichols2949 nicely said
Se você treinar duas pessoas começando do zero, o lutador de Jiu terá muito mais chances de vencer o que treina apenas Muay Thai.
É claro que unir as duas lutas é fundamental, porém, mesmo a luta começando em pé, existe o momento, distância e estudar o oponente pra se levar pro chão. :)
Basta saber aplicar a técnica.
Que treino legal, gostei.
O jiu jitsu leva vantagem das lutas de trocação porque geralmente seus praticantes não sabem se defender no chão, enquanto bem ou mal qualquer um consegue se defender em pé. Não é a arte marcial que vence, é o nivel tecnico do praticante.
Más no x1 o JJ leva vantagem sobre o muay thai, a maior dificuldade está em derrubar. Más o muay thai é mais recomendado para as ruas que o JJ (minha opnião) sinceramente acho que as duas artes se completam.
Concordo muito com a sua opinião. Jiu Jitsu é mtoo eficiente, mas em uma briga de rua não é ideal cair. Pois pode vim mais de uma pessoa. O Jiu no mano a mano é sinistro, mas o Muay é mais seguro em brigas de rua por exemplo.
Em uma briga de rua, o lutador de jiu pode segurar a perna no chute do cara e derrubar ele, no chão o muay thai n vai conseguir se defender. E também no jiu a gente não vai deitar no chão😅em uma briga de rua claro@@eduardolaia4583
No x1 o jj é insuperável mas tenho medo de levar um jab ou um direto (não treino luta em pé) e apagar ou de cair e chegar alguém chutando minhas costas
El Jiu Jitsu lo que sea de cada quien mis respetos yo creo que si tienes conocimiento de Muay Thai y Jiu Jitsu eres un arma andando, por que el Muay Thai es muy bueno y practico para combates en los cuales estas parado pero una vez entrando en el suelo entras en el territorio del Jiu Jitsu donde fácilmente te hacen cagada.
En dado caso para combatirlo es muy dificil uno tendria que tener ciertos conocimientos sobre el Jiu Jitsu para poder defenderte de alguien quien se especializa en eso
lucha libre le nega jiu jitsu
Skyler thanks. Great to see someone with your experience posting.
The Gracies walked into an octagon with only two rules (no eye gouging, no biting) and beat all comers. More than once.
That was a style vs style contest and they showed the merits. Also that they would test it. Aikido for one, refuses to spar or test their mettle. Very telling.
Now it is possible to see style vs style and decide which one works for your personal talents. Don't TOUCH aikido or anything unproven. My advice
Verdade não é porque Bruce Lee bateu no Chuck Norris que o kung-fu é melhor que o karáte na verdade Bruce Lee era fora de série
No they didn't lol
The gracies got beat down badly by catch wrestlers, and they wore gi giving them advantage
sempre melhor!!!!!!!!
A familha gracie já mostrou isso!
I should have never scrolled down
+Ham Boney i see your a tourist to this area as well
the guy in jiu jitsu is lucky he wasn't versing a good muay thai guy - that ducking down is a sure-fire way to get yourself knee'd in the face.
That wasn't even a Muay Thai guy lol just a joker. Now vice versa, if a Muay Thai guy challenges a good BJJ or wrestler they will catch their leg and take them down.
It's what everyone who do not practice BJJ say, "it was lucky".
Pega no meu saco malhado e respeita meu Jiu-jitsu seu comédia.
@@beastfromtheeast422 "if a Muay Thai guy challenges a good BJJ or wrestler they will catch their leg and take them down" if the jiu jitsu guy wants his arm broken trying to catch it, by all means proceed to do so lol
Straight JiuJitsu beats straight MT pretty easy.
no. Depends on the fighter. Bad BJJ Fighter= one shot by knee strike
Id argue the other way. I started in straight MT and would always get an underhook or be able to stuff a takedown if it even got to that, but mostly would stick my knee in peoples stomachs or leg kick them to death
Pero que transición papá!!!!
Pra vencer o jiu-jitsu só sabendo o jiu-jitsu 😂, oss ☠️
Amazing how everything end once on the ground....
In real fight jijutsu fighter will die in no sec😂
@@jadenwat2990 no the muay thai fighter would dii since there is no tapping on the streets
Que muay-thai ridículo desse cara, completamente sem noção de distância e controle de golpe!
Totalmente una cagada
@jmurjeff if the guy pulls out a gun what other choice do you have but to try and disarm then run? (or risk another gun or an accomplice) if the guns out isn't the only(first) choice to disarm? or do i have to read the book to know?
i know running is the best choice of all(there being a saying i heard once) but isn't there a saying that you should never show your back to your enemy?
This is a great drill !! We use it all the time at my gym.... Try it
That's about right in my experience.
Where was the Muay Thai fighter?
I love those two styles!!
Well said sir. i study muay thai and have considered bjj but after doin a few bits of ground game i didn't like it and feel much better standing up.
Viva o Jiu Jitsu , viva a família Graice .
+gleison braga de oliveira mota eso no es muay thai si sabes de artes marciales y hablas de los graice tiene que saberlo
Viva sakuraba
Thank you the gracie family for bringing us bjj ❤❤
@@a.ottaviano1260 🤣
ai nao dois iniciantes kkk foda.
haha rly fun seeing the kickboxer panicing on the ground having no idea what to do boxing and kicking in the air.
Muito Bom!
Muay Thai kid was weak and no skill. Not a very good example.
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***** and jiu jitsu guy weared head protection
Same goes for the leaned over idiot that was the BJJ guy. How he didn't get kneed in the teeth is beyond me.
Kanglong Yang The Muay Thai man may have just had his first match against a person trying to tactle his legs. If he just drilled for a few months on sprawling, and striking against a tackler/leg grabber, the match would not be so lopsided, and his Muay Thai skiils would show to be very effective with just the addition of some simple "sprawl and brawl knowledge".
Alexander Higgins The BJJ clearly didn't have experience fighting a striker either. He has no clue how to manage his distance, which is something I would really expect from Gracie Academy with as much as Rener talks about it.
Timothy Jones, Jr. No matter what the case, a pure grappler has an advantage over a pure striker, and striking a grappler is a way different skill and posturing technique than striking a striker. That's my opinion, I am a beginner and my opinions could change with time.
KKKKKKKKKKK KARALHOOO !!! Porraa to doido p fazer jiu jitsu...já tenho karate agora tenho q aprender uma luta de chão !! muito bom
Dude looked like he was fresh off his first muay thai class.
So many arguments about which is better striking or grappling, the answer is simple, BOTH.
Eh foda! Jiu Jitsu é muito bom, Thai tbém! POrém, botar um cara ruim para lutar com alguém do jiu... Eh pedir p ser finalizado!!! Sou praticante de Sandá, sei q pra vencermos uma luta... A estratégia prevalece!!! O cara do Thai queria nocautear, e o Jiujituco fez o que treinou... Aplicou a tecnica mais simples pra finalizar seu adversário! Encaixe um Swing ou um diretaço na cara de qualquer praticante de artes marciais... Não fica um em pé!
JIU JITSU .
Justamente, no muay thai nós treinamos levar porrada! quando vai fazer um embate assim, evita-se os golpes contundentes para não machucar o adversário de uma arte marcial que não tem o mesmo preparo.
That Thai boxer looked like he'd been fighting for less than a month.
Jiu Jitsu é ótimo,quando começei a fazer eu n queria mais parar,pena que tive que fazer isso,e agora estou em uma academia fazendo so muay thai,sem Jiu Jitsu eu me sinto imcompleto.
This isn't even a fair fight
arte milenar jiu jitsu prevaleçe cada dia mais para todos os jiujiteros um abraço
lol I expected the Jiu Jitsu guy to lay down on his back as soon as the fight started
very well put!
A diferença entre Muay Thai e Jiu-Jitsu é gritante,visto que ao contrário do Muay Thai não precisa de firulas,é só agir no tempo certo e pronto! Muay Thai e Boxe só tem eficácia dentro do ringue,numa situação real as chances de praticante de Muay Thai se dar bem são mínimas. O Jiu-Jitsu desde sempre provou a sua eficácia tanto dentro quanto fora do Tatame.
and that my friends is why bjj is better than muay thai
He must be the new guy at the gym lol
Bom, na verdade o cara do muay thai é mesmo fraquinho, inclusive os cruzados que ele da são muito estranhos. No muay thai não usamos proteção de rosto, por isso falei da proteção no cara do JJ. Mas treino é treino.
The best combo to learn is Thai kick boxing and BJJ, and American boxing is probably the best pure hand striking skill around. People shouldn't be afraid to admit weakness in their discipline of fighting, its the only way to learn.
I spar with this guy once who swear his boxing skills would neutralize anything thing I could throw at him. He changed his mind mid way down from a side slam. Oh and finished him off with an arm bar to boot. :)
that takedown was awesome!
This is WHY even Bruce Lee studied JJ. He knew grappling was ESSENTIAL. See the Lead fight scene in "Enter The Dragon" Bruce Lee uses JJ to finish the fight.
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK tartaruga de barriga pra cima! auahuah
Jiu jitsu is the king of all fighting styles!
@noose357 Yeah, no problem. I definitely see what you're saying. To me, it seems that this doesn't happen only in Jujutsu. It's very common in other martial arts to only practice for untrained fighters. Judo even taught as a sport is STILL effective in the street, that's what I love about it. Fighting a skilled opponent is a totally different game. And I don't want to say it's poor classes per se, but more a lack of the traditional teachings that make Jujutsu/Judo the complete form it should be.
é a arte suave meu amigo....
PODE VIM QUALQUER ARTE CONTRA O JIU JITSU
Concealed weapons permit and a Berreta. Best self defense I've ever heard of.
@thereecious exactly, you need them both under different circumstances.
strikers think they're so awesome, but a grappler only has to get a hold of you once to take you down, and once that happens, the boxer is completely at the mercy of his opponent.
What i love is that anytime an opponent lands a punch on a Bjj guy, it's referred to as a "lucky hit." And you act as if getting somebody in an armbar is dictated entirely by the person doing the armbar. You see how in either case you make it one sided in the favor of bjj?
Siempre el grappling va sobresalir por encima del Striking
Cuando entra el Muay Thai? Me quede con las ganas de ver esa pelea 🤷🏻♂️
O kra deu mole kkkkkkkkk tomou um arm lock pq mereceu
Very nice takedown and arm bar. Bjj rules!!
naum podemos deixar de frizar a uniao entre todas as artes se ele e ou naum lutador de thay ajudou a outra arte a demonstrar a sua eficiencia
yea it does. the only street fight i've been in, i beat the dude with a triangle and thats before i knew how to do it properly and a year before i started training. lol. bjj helps you stay calm when you're on your back. it teaches you that theres many ways to change/set the momentum on teh ground
caralho, que chave !
exactly, everyone expects BJJ to just shoot takedowns. Thats a good way to get knocked out against anyone who trains at all. Gotta set up your takedowns. Like i said a good jab and a right straight/hook can be a great distance closer for a takedown, even seen fake leg kicks/ fake single legs work great for setting up
The Gracies used basic strikes to create openings for a clinch to take down. As a BJJ practitioner I feel it important to point out the "BJJ" guy did no such thing and took some bad shots trying to close in. A BJJ ground game without knowledge of how to safely close the distance is not much more then a sport game. That said, that slam had to hurt. The MT guy kind of did a brake fall and kept his head from hitting the ground, but there's no way on concrete that wouldn't have stunned him a bit.
i agree.
in a street fight, that first muay thai punch to the back of the head would have knocked him out cold.
haha that was kinda tight!
That Thai guy got OWNED , like a turtle on it's back, he had no defence on the ground at all.
BJJ é foda, como dizia o grande mestre Helio Gracie... ta pra nascer uma luta mais eficiente que essa
O cara do Jiu Jitsu só ganhou pq o do "muay thai" era muito ruim.
Com um lutador de Thai mesmo, ele teria beijado o chao na hora que ficou com a cabeça baixa daquele jeito. Um lutador de verdade de Thai tinha quebrado a boca dele com uma joelhada ou um chute.
Mas ta valendo, vitória pro BJJ
wooooo go gracie barra!
I ended up learning bjj because of this. Don't under estimate it. If stand up is your strong point and you have no ground techniques then your only hurting yourself. Find all you're weak points and make them stronger to better yourself as a fighter. Don't be stupid and just stick to one thing and say..ohh its cuz he had pads blah blah. I was taken down everytime by grapplers to the point I had to learn it and now I love it and actually prefer to fight on the ground lol
n tem chance cara, Jiu Jitsu domina porra!
O "jiu jiteiro" deveria saber que com guarda de grappling contra muay thai fica vulnerável. Se bem que o do Muay Thai também deveria saber e se aproveitar disso...
the way he's swaying his arms is so funny hahaha
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mas foi phoderozo!
good point !
O cara pode dar joelhadas, pode socar, pode cotovelar, pode ter mais mobilidade, e ele luta colado em um cara que sabe lutar assim? No caso ele deveria manter a distância, aplicar algumas caneladas nas pernas, e quando ele abaixasse para agarrar joelhada e se ele agarra as pernas...empurra a cabeça dele pra baixo e chuva de soco martelando a lata dele.
Well. That was quick.
You're right. A striker kinda has to lay you out. Grappler just has to subdue you.
Literalmente el de tai no llevará ni 3 meses entrenando 😂
jiu-jitsu é arte é technica , muai thay e so socar e chutar basicamente ! Como diz meu mestre , pra que medo de altura se o perigo está no chão !
Haha.. the ref quickly stopped the man from finishing his arm lock.
Jiu Jitsu é nós.osss
jiu é foda , no chão não tem pra ninguem , lutador de Muay thai na trocação leva vantagem, mais no chão parece uma tartaruga virada d barriga pra cima!!!!
Já que o lutador de Muay Thai usa protetores, o de Jiu deveria lutar com uma mão amarrada pra ficar mais justo.
Its feels like a Crocodile waiting to drag its prey into water. It waits & waits and with a sudden action it drags and the prey is unable to do anything.
What ever Jiu Jitsu rocks!!
padded strikers have a pretty significant disadvantage against grapples
lol every single person that doesn't have a clue about ground fighting ALWAYS try to push the guy up and then end receiving an arm bar, it's always like this
Wow, the jiu jitsu fighter went for the upper leg grapple!! Who could have possibly have predicted that "rare" move? :p
lmfao the guy in gray looks like hes having a tantrum wen he gets taken down
Na tentativa de aplicar a queda, o "lutador" de jiu jitsu tentou beijar o joelho do cara do muay thay. Não foi assim que o vovô Hélio ensinou.
If you want people to think that your martial arts is the best. You have to beat Muay Thai. It's always been like this. This is a good indication that Muay Thai is the pinnacle of martial arts. Muay Thai has proven that they can defeat their opponents even if they fight under unfavorable rules. They have proven it countless times. To defeat your opponent by not using your strongest weapons like elbows and knees. At the same time, what would happen if jiu jitsu had to fight under disadvantageous rules like Muay Thai? What would happen if you were forbidden to strangle, forbidden to break arms, forbidden to break legs, or forbidden to hug? You can bet that jiu jitsu fighters will never be able to defeat their opponents the way Muay Thai can.
Thing about jiu-jitsu is that it can be used against almost any martial art. Some martial arts have kicks and punches that can end it, if the jiu-jitsu guy dodges your kick, or straight up grabs your leg, than can get you on the floor and just dominate. can't do fancy kicks with a guy mounting you.
2016's New Star Player Because it's origin from Ninjitsu which hybrids with Western wrestling move. All those submission moves used in UFC is mostly Asian killing/Assassins art used probably over 1000s of years.....
thankfully im training for both . they BOTH! have their advantages
those are nice mats