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One of the worst cases of bad faith I have seen from destiny on his point on teenage pregnancy. Destiny knows that conservatives consider abortion murder, yet still makes the claim of utility to reduce rates in teens. Helping something shouldn't require the murder of babies Destiny. Quit attacking strawmen and step on the stage equally. Frankly this one was pathetic.
I don't think that was his point at all. The point he was trying to make is that we have trivialized sex when in fact it is not trivial. We then wonder why there are unintended but obvious consequences.
@@mariomario1462 That's already the case, depending on where you live. Kind of. In the state I grew up in, minors 16 and older are legally allowed to consent to sexual acts with people who are 5 years older than them, or less. I believe minors between 14 and 16 can consent to acts with an individual up to 2 years older than them, though I could be wrong on that.
@@Substantial-hf1rm kiddo, go troll somewhere else. Just say "I'm not developmentally mature enough to handle this" and move on. And FYI, consent matters not your weird dehumanizing infatuation with high schoolers
Children out of wedlock isn't bad because of just religion. Having two parents who are committed to raising a child together is way better for the child.
@@donwalker1011 Yes, but the point is that those 2 parents are much more likely to be together to raise the child if they are married. Which means it is statistically better for children to be raised by parents who are married.
It's so weird how conservatives and leftists all have this idea that the problem isn't the problem itself, it's that there's some version of a sub-par solution in place and the problem would fix itself if we eliminated that solution. How the fuck are parents all going to suddenly teach proper sex education if we just eliminated it from school? Why do you think it was ever added to the curriculum in the first place? What problem do you think that was addressing?
I think alot of people feel they can teach sex ed just because they followed the directions on condom packaging. I'm still seeing people perpetuate old wives tales testing methods of shoving stuff up a woman's vagina to see if they have std's on Twitter of all places.
@@tedculbertson6320 the examples that come to mind are attacking the ACA because it placates people against M4A support, or attacking corporate "wokeism" even if it has positive outcomes. Basically anything they hand-wave away as being "neoliberal" is an example of this. Lots of problems in their eyes are a result of capitalism, and any solution that isnt revolution just delays the revolution.
@@tedculbertson6320 ill grant you that's a less mainstream left-leaning view but it's hard to tell any more how to compare the opinions on Twitter vs CNN and to know which is more influential. Conservatives do tend to do this across the board because their philosophy is more grounded on individualism and weird religious appeals to the 'invisible hand', lol
The high school I attended was terrible in regards to infrastructure for the students. One year we had well over 5000 students when it should have been around 3000 at max we were packed in the hallways like sardines it simply wasnt possible for anybody to get from one class to the next in 3 minutes and it became a huge point of contention between the student body and school staff. Alot of teachers berated students for something that was totally out of our control and it created a very hostile environment not conducive to learning.
I went to a large high school a decade back with a similar problem. 3500 students in a 2000 student school, 5 minutes between classes. Eventually a settlement was negotiated where breaks were expanded to 15 minutes in return for longer classes.
that seems to be the norm in pretty much all debates. if you see william lane craig try to demonstrate the existence of the christian version of yahweh sabaoth, he always repeats the exact same malarkey, i think someone made a video of all his debates, it's quite funny seeing the whole visuals change but the words remaining exactly the same, even the intonation....
Even data is biased. And by that I don’t mean the actual data, I mean the implications of it and how it is perceived. Unless you know everything about a subject, you’re still just only asking the questions that you can think of to ask, and you might be missing a huge aspect because you’re trying to confirm the bias you already have. Even if data is exchanged from multiple perspectives, people still only take what aligns with them and what they have seen or could see happening. Personal experiences are still helpful, because at the end of the day that’s where we learn to process the information we receive. Whatever comes out to be the most applicable to each persons life is what they will accept as fact, even if it’s the most wrong a person could possibly be. Appeal to emotion with experiences, can be a very useful and sometimes necessary tool. By exchanging these experiences, you can point out something that person might have missed within their experience and it could change their entire perspective in rare cases. People process things very differently. Some by correlations to other things, and some by what they can see immediately in front of them. Things you can sense rather than abstract concepts. This makes exchanging ideas just by data very hard. If you showed me a statistic that said everyone thinks bananas are blue, I would assume I was color blind, while someone else might assume they were being conned. Both of those things could be true. Not a good example but it’s what I could think up on the spot. There are also values to consider. As mentioned in a recent video I saw, some people will not cut off family no matter what. I do not see why, but it’s a value some people have. So even if they were shown exclusive data, the outcome of it is different because we value different things. The only way to get around this is discuss which would hypothetically be more harmful.
@@catheriney6209 Well data is accurate or not accurate and the interpretation of the data is bias, but that's just being nitpicky. The bigger issue is that people come to conclusions first and then get or misinterpret data that helps back up their thesis. I think the best we can do is acknowledge our ignorance and avoid ideological frameworks which necessitate a common good, common evil dichotomous view on issues which prevent reasonable, functional solutions to things.
Conservative: "Parents need to learn to do this, not the government." The world: "But they don't." Conservative: "But they need to." The world: Conservative: "So anyway, that's why you have to stop changing things on a centralised level."
He's a bit melodramatic, but paradigm shift/the black teacher understands the issue perfectly. (~33:00) The only utilitarian approach is a centralised approach. Sometimes the centalised approach is terrible and not adjusted well enough to reach the people it needs to reach, but then you have to improve the centralised approach. Saying "The individual has to fix it" isn't governance, that's for individual people to deal with. If governments do that, it's defeatism. Chat's *instant* memes about his bars are hilarious, though.
This is the fundamental difference between conservatives and progressives. Progressive people see a problem in the world and propose systematic changes to fix it. Conservatives shrug and say people should just make better choices. It’s hard to have a conversation if one side isn’t even interested in realistically fixing the problem.
@@frisater96 Until it becomes their problem, then "the system" has gone too far and now it's not just up to them to induvidually choose "less woke" platforms or movies to watch but rather hollywood or the establishment has to change.
Virgin: Turns off Destiny's stream when they play League, watches Vaush instead, generally enjoys their life, experiencing the touch of lovers from all walks of life, can levitate, chooses not to. Chad: Watches Destiny's League streams never learning the game but feeding on the scraps of drama every time Hasan turns his head at a weird angle, can't cry, pauses stream to talk to self about their own opinion, wishes they were Melina.
Destiny: 'Conservatives don't provide the education or the resources to deal with early teen pregnancy or how to avoid it' Every Conservative on the panel: 'Let me provide anecdotal evidence as to how me and my conservative parents were raised ~ Look it didn't happen to us!'
Destiny is painting a very diverse group of people with a very broad brush with no factual basis other than politically motivated stereotypes he has bought into. Replying to such an irrational claim with anecdotes is acceptable.
@@paulhodgers agreed, especially with the "at the state level" caveat. In one state you will see conservative legislators funding education of that type specifically because they want to avoid the ending of pregnancies and they know that's a good way to do it, in another state you might have a good chunk of the legislator that is evangelicals which is a whole different ballgame then just regular conservatives. I'm a bit to the left of center, it boggles my mind how little people on the far left understand what people to the right of them think and why.
@@micfail2 I hate to both sides this but *cough* not just the far left has no clue of the opposite sides views *cough*, or even why they hold their chosen view points, which is why the political scene in the US is so toxic, and the UK is half arsed following suit.
@@paulhodgers there are many legitimate examples of what aboutism or however you want to call it, this is not one of them. Multiple studies have been done on this topic and they are unanimous in their conclusion: the alt left does not understand what moderates or conservatives believe and why, while moderates and conservatives overwhelmingly understand what other groups believe and why. This is not a matter of opinion and it's really not even debatable, "both sides" does not apply here. Sure, you can find conservatives and moderates who don't understand the positions of other groups but they are the exception not the rule.
@@whasian1487 That's just a BS excuse, your infrastructure is horrible. Even the most rural areas here with like 50 inhabitants have some sort of public transportation, and sure Texas could fit 10 European countries in it, it's very easy to pick the 10 smallest countries... Russia can fit inside USA twice but they seem to not have the same problems...
@@Juuk-D it's a matter of logistics. Population density and population dispersement matters. Some school bus routes in my county is a 1.5 hour trip to fill the bus with kids because of the distance between stops. Even europeans who visit the US make youtube videos explaining this.
I always hear about people not learning this in school and I have to honestly ask. Where the hell did you go to school where they didn’t teach sex ed, Jim Crowe, slavery, and the trail of tears? I graduated with a class of 27 at a public school in a mostly conservative town and learned this shit in both middle and high school, I’m genuinely curious if anyone didn’t learn this and if they attended a rural small school or an urban large school.
Coming from my personal black American perspective l, the problem is that's pretty much all they teach you. It wasn't until I was an adult well out of school that I learned anything that brought a sense of unity or patriotism. Like the fact that there were black founding fathers who were as responsible for the founding of this country as the ones we are taught about in school. Or how about the fact that the civil rights act was the third one proposed and the second to be voted into law. The civil rights act of 1866 was the first and the Republican Congress had to override a veto to do it. Things like that and more are not taught in school. Why?
@@pjh1663 it's impossible to teach everything and then test everything. People already have problems with common core which try to teach the bare minimum and make sure it's in the kids head. If you add all this extra shit to kids that like 60% truly don't care about history plus an overcrowded history lineup. We learned about Pre colonial America, colonial America up to America like 30 years ago in my school's which were public schools. Asking why they didn't teach something else isn't a criticism, its nit picking. If they were purposefully trying to omit history it would be something worth criticizing.
Not every small community is a good one. I went to a decent high school in Indiana but 30 min away from me I knew kids that didn’t have a health class. I was baffled how much, or should I say how little, my buddies kid learned. I took it for granted when I was there, but now I feel like it’s criminal to send these kids to their doom.
6:30 in and the Canadian is talking about the students being in charge of pushing themselves into more difficult classes, and I just have to echo what Destiny already said in the vide. Parents should be taking a more active role in their child's education. Children (even high school), generally speaking, do not understand they gravity of the choices they make. Not opting into AP (IB?) classes or college prep classes severely inhibits your ability to compete in the college admissions landscape. I will admit that college is not for everyone, but a child should not be left to on their own to make that decision.
Absolutely, I regret that I didn’t have any clear career path in mind when I was in high school. I wish my parents were more involved. I turned out alright in the end but I know I’d be in a much better position if I took school more seriously.
The parents who don't take a more active role in their child's education are the same parents who are either uneducated themselves, or just don't give a fuck about investing in the future success of their children. The problem is who we are allowing to birth and raise children. People below 100 IQ should not be allowed to reproduce, in a video game.
Its true for the gifted kids as well as the ones that need a little bit more help. My parents didn't help me for shit when it came to college prep or admissions and financial aid. If anyone prepping for college reads this, for the love of god claim independence when you are doing your FAFSA in the United States. If you allow your parents to claim you as a dependent, you will fuck yourself over on student loan opportunity. If you allow them to take your family's earnings into account, you will get less money for school, and your parents will likely not be able to cover the difference.
My early education got screwed up because I had way too much choice in my classes. I took easy classes on purpose because I just didn't care about school. As a result, I got screwed in important subjects like math.
Gen X'er here. When I went through Health Class, they taught us all about how to properly clean ourselves. They taught girls how to properly deal with female stuff. Those were separated by gender or sex. Then came drug use & how drugs adversely affected your body. Then it went into Sex Ed. They taught us every single way to have safe sex. From the pill to condoms to even abstinence. Then we learned about every sexually transmitted disease. They taught it in such a way as to fear monger us over having unprotected sex or sex at all. To my best recollection, funding became the biggest problem for these classes. Usually Health Class was one Semester (Half the year) & Drivers Ed was the other Senester. When they started phasing Drivers Ed out, Health class went with it. Where what was being taught was becoming an issue was more about demonizing children for having STDs. Then people took issue with the demonization of certain drugs. Specifically Marijuana. That was because we; as a state, just voted for it to become legal for medical use. Anyway, this was in California in the 1990s.
I can't stop laughing at the ancient, cranky dude with the American flag in the background. You know his beliefs before he even starts talking and then this whole conversation just confirms your assumptions. Edit: 34:41 ...Is he hugging a giant teddy bear?
Conservatives are way too easily swayed by the attitude of a person speaking. When that dude finally ended his rambling speech at 38:50 I thought maybe we could finally get back to 1 topic with more substance instead of vaguely gesturing to a bunch of different things, I couldn't believe my ears when everyone else on the panel actually said they were impressed by it. Now I understand how they got sucked up by Trump's BS so easily.
I went to a pretty poor school in Texas. Football was where the money went, they were building a new stadium while they were firing AP teachers. My parents are both college-educated, I've always been good at school and enjoyed it, and I ended up valedictorian and going to a top undergrad and a top law school. But despite having a good family and turning out pretty well, I would have done EVEN BETTER if my school had had more money. My textbooks were 20 years old, we didn't offer the same variety of AP classes that wealthier schools did, our AP teachers were generally lower quality, etc. I ended up better than my peers at that highschool, but was still behind my peers in college and I had catching up to do. Family helps, but schools absolutely do need more money. Maybe instead of a top 10 undergrad, I would have attended a top 3 undergrad. I could have had 30 college credits from AP classes instead of 20, saving me money. I could have taken Calculus in high school and not had to catch up on that in college.
Tbf, a lot of sports get outside funding. Just because the football stadium is being rebuilt doesn't mean the money is being deducted from the school budget. If it was a public school, the state decides how much the school gets. Meanwhile, the football program can get funding from something like a quarterbacks club.
@WhAsian well it also has to do with the expected returns the investment will make, right? Like it might be factored into the districts budget (with subsidies and the like from the state, city, etc...) but be approved because a stadium like that can be rented out to other events, will make a lot in ticket sales over the duration of its lifetime, etc. It sucks, because it means that some sports are given more funding based solely on perceived profitability, limiting the ability of other athletes to reach their full potential but it makes sense in a way.
@@phantimboboto5333 Community outreach/PR in exchange for advertisement placement for a return in investment. If you open up a restaurant in a county where high school basketball is the most popular sport, then the smart move is to reach out to the basketball program because it draws the most eyes. In Texas, most counties are crazy about football. So it's a case of all the programs suck because they don't get outside funding or the culture of the community props one particular sport up above the rest.
@@TheGrowlingAraknid 100%. I remember when I was in high school, all the students, including myself, talked about "how much money the schools spend on the football program". It was a couple years later when I learned how the funding worked then it all made sense.
Yeah. I still kinda lean pro life. Sorta. I basically understand abortion is sometimes absolutely necessary and that there are times where it should be an option. But I still want as close to zero abortions to happen as possible. And that's where I absolutely cannot stand the hypocrisy of conservatives. Birth control and condoms should basically be free at every church, school, gas station, and corner hot dog stand. And sex education should be as robust and readily available as possible. Also having some form of guaranteed child care and paid family medical leave would help as well. But no conservative ever is for those things. The things that are actually Pro life in that they would decrease the number of abortions.
lol i dont see how being against 15 cent condoms being free is hypocrisy smh. Why are we acting this shit is so expensive? You can literally get a pack of 100 for 19 bucks. Delusions
No, most black people have visceral reactions to being called the n word bro. Maybe a level headed person will take time to determine if it’s being used offensively or not but that “er” will get you attacked in most circles.
7:00 no, as a decent human, you know that having sex, before you are married and want to start a family is bad! why take an action when you are not ready to take responsibility? having sex when not ready for children, is wrong!
Damn, I had never known how seemingly advanced my school was. I thought it was pretty average in quality, but apparently a 1 month sex ed course (covering everything from stds to condoms to stats) and a semester of financial literacy (both being graduation requirements) is super uncommon? That’s the vibe I’m getting from this conversation.
There are extreme cases on both ends. Some schools offer extensive sex ed and financial literacy. Other schools (like the one I went to) had a sex ed class that lasted a single hour and only explained the basics of puberty (I was in 5th grade). A financial literacy class was offered, but it was an online class that more or less just counted for a math credit. If you didn't want to take that type of class there were alternatives. The problem is that curriculum varies widely, not just between the states, but between individual districts within said states. That is why there needs to be a standardization in curriculum. At least then we know what the standards are.
One thing to keep in mind, being taught that sex equals babies is different than being taught about sex in general. Being raised Mormon, I was taught at an early age that sex had to do with making babies. Which really skewed my perspective on sex. I learned more from my friends than I did my parents
@@m33LLS You are totally incorrect. There are countless of vertebrate and non-vertibrate species that have sex for other reasons than having offspring. Hell there are even oral and homosexual behavior from fruitbats to some slugs. I don't know where this internet myth originated from but it is not true at all.
This is one of the things that annoy me about conservatives. They never want to have to deal with problems. Instead they complain and lecture but don't actually do anything. Conservatives just have to face the fact unfortunately if the parents aren't going to do anything they need to do something. If they don't then who will. People clearly aren't going to teach themselves how to be good parents. Also conservatives suck at explaining their viewpoint. They expect people to just figure things out on their own. Well question what happens if they can't. Well you find yourself back to square one.
OMG, I was really missing Dylan B (whom I usually see moderating on Hippy Dippy), moderation was disappointing for this one. Was this supposed to be more free form?
1:00:00 I save you an hour of pointless discussion - don't call people a racial slur and expect to get away with it. Its never socially acceptable to call someone a racial slur. If you ain't using a word to demean someone who is a homey or a brother-from-another-mother then it isn't a slur.
@@TheGrowlingAraknid thats true, its just funny how the internet left is trying to defend this somehow, at least own it saying you want to make people mad and thats it, the mental olympics these people are doing is insane
The panel's solution is always, "no solution", the topic is what society can do better, when you answer with "the parents need to do better", that is simply not an answer.
Damn a lot of conservatives still in the comments still thinking destiny is one of them after the Rittenhouse stuff and getting disappointed when he clearly isn't
That's not the reason most of us are here. We actually like to see people with other opinions unlike people on the left that like to stay in their hive. I've watched a lot of his video's, agree with some of his points but not a single second I believed he was on the conservative side. You don't have to be a conservative to know Rittenhouse was innocent, that's a bs argument. The one thing I learned from him is that there is a huge difference between winning a debate and being right.
I agree parents are important and should be more active in their children's life. You would wind up with more responsibility and less policy. You would have less people supporting a 2 tier citizen system.
In the UK (at least in the spec my school followed) Sex Ed was done in a Science class, with both genders and over the course of like a month. It would replace 1 or 2 lessons a week of science.
@@harutyunyan93 it is in almost every part of central Europe. My German sex ed was also light years ahead of what is being talked about here. I guess it's mostly a US conversation in this regard. I have trouble sympathizing with the views that were on display here as they seem so 1900s like aka outdated.
I dont understand why it's so hard to just not insult someone based on their race. Also the guy brings up how they had to fight for the civil rights movement (as if there were no white people in that fight??) but those civil rights weren't "people of color get special privilege" they were blanket statements about not discriminating based on race etc. Weird argument to make in my opinion.
Because immature manchilds and kids like to do what they have been told not to say for some reason, they don't like anyone telling them what they can or can't say for no good reason.
@@extralife220 It’s a racial slur, it targets an individuals race and is an insult spelt derived on the prospect of one’s race, the manner it is used is derogatory and it is a pejorative, it fits all qualities of a racial slur
He always does that. When he stops playing a game it's like Goku taking off the training weights. When he busts out the notepad he's gone Super Saiyan. None of the opponents here were of a sufficient power level.
!!Upvote please if anyone would like this aswell.!! Would love to see a conversation with Brett Weinstien. I watch Destiny and Brett religiously and I find that both are Demonized by the each side. I find both compelling but want to see my own opinions get ironed out.
These "parents just need to be better" conversations seem so useless with. You cant just twist someone's arm into being a better parent and just throwing money at it in the form of some tax credit isn't going to magically create better parents either.
These arguments tend to be unsatisfying to me as well. There is apparently no room for doing nothing nor is there room for the idea that we're taking actions that serve a minimally effective end at high costs.
Fair enough then what's your solution? Give the right schools more money? More after school programs? To me doing nothing is not an opinion because America as a whole is struggling education wise and parents play a decent hand in the problem it self. They respectfully don't give their time that their kids need in order to support and encourage them in their studies usually for a good reason but some times thru laziness. These same parents then not satisfied with the schools come to complain and many times force solutions that do not help the situation at all. These teacher know how much just a little help from parents can greatly help a student in ways a school could never provide. Also if these parents had a better handle on what schools really need then maybe they would vote for better policies. So the idea of a tax credit, while seemly a outlandish idea comes from those who are trying anything to try and energize the parents to really care about their child's education. tl'dr: Parents need to get involved with their child's education and every idea should be looked into. PS: All you guys getting on people talking so much is a joke. Destiny does it all the time. Just say you weren't entertained.
@@Thundra1000Throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks is a great way to start to find a solution. Their idea just might be possible solution. Could be bad, could be good. Let run some tests and give it a shot. Are you then saying we shouldn't even try to motivate parents and its a lost cause? Understandable but I don't think so.
lol children arent learning because their eyes arent used to staring at screens 8 hours a day.... no buddy, they arent learning because you are boring af and they have more distractions at home
Maybe if parents didn't mock their children or baby them when they want to have the talk, then maybe they would approach the parents with them rather than keeping you partner a secret until it's too late.
I relate to Destiny. I also was raised by a socially conservative family in a socially conservative town, but later saw such social conservatism as harmful when I became an adult. Edit: My dad married my mom when he was only 22, for as long as I could remember he seemed to have forgotten what it was like to be a kid.
Why does it always feel like when Destiny exposes some right wingers they admit everything they're wrong about during the discussion than later claim the opposite...
I don't think the abortion issue has anything to do with keeping people from having kids out of wedlock and teen pregnancies, the argument against abortions is about it being murder to abort the child. So I don't think being against abortion has anything to do with that topic.
Wow a lot less of the usual "I'm a moderate conservative-centrist that listens to Alex Jones, Shapiro and Glenn Beck but Destiny is the one far left extremist I will listen to because he dunks on twitter lefties and that lets me feel open minded while validating my beliefs" youtube comments on this video, I wonder why?
@@matsab7930 Yeah because conservatives aren't really open minded and won't even click on a video if they think it might make another conservative look bad.
How is focusing and the family and opposing abortion not compatible? Doesn't having a child create a family? The problem is trivializing something that is not trivial (like sex) and the blaming the consequences on a lack of "education" or lack of resources (condoms), which in 2021 is ABSURD giving what kids know, see, and are offered. Then leap to blaming conservative parents which can be proven to be false as the most out of wedlock births are NOT from children of conservative parents. In fact, the group with the highest stats are the ones that vote 96% for democrats. The problem is there is no MORALITY regulating behavior. Morality is the padding, safety margin, inoculation, etc to bad behavior. Behaviors that could lead to bad outcomes should be a MORALE issue long before it's a legal issue or requires abortion. Morality is a sign that says, "cliff ahead". Legality, abortion, safety nets, are a sign at the cliffs edge that says "cliff". Things should be a MORALE issue first.
3:15 Why did destiny say racial slurs "Redneck" and "Hick" just non-chalantly? Does he not realize that's a racial slur that is leveraged by racist? What's wrong with him wtf. Suddenly skin color is ok to make fun of huh if it's white? Those two words are literally in the category of racist slur in wikipedia if people say otherwise, they're wrong and ignorant. Just don't be racist ffs
@@flacornmallrat racism is in most cases not ok, but this guy seems to be confusing Hasan's "Racism against whites is ok" argument with my "People in reality use racist speech whether its ok or not" argument
@@TonyCox1351 all racism is okay, what isn't okay is policing people's speech and thoughts. It's a travesty that adults in western countries don't feel embarrassed when saying "the n-word" like children.
I hate when Destiny always argues against irrelevant points for no reason. The other guy is saying "the n word has trauma behind it and cracker doesn't", this is a braindead argument. All he's saying is "this slur is worse", that doesn't make the other slur okay. But of course Destiny argues against the trauma part. The trauma part literally doesn't matter. At all. The n word being worse than other slurs doesn't justify those slurs. If there was a slur that was more traumatic than the n word it doesn't justify the n word. Can Destiny please stop arguing against irrelevant off topic points ffs.
Wait ... Bussing is a valid point against that option? WTF!!! In my country the private transportation of children to their schools is an industry. In fact, it is the main form of this type of transportation. Each neighborhood has a bus or driver (generally a paid neighbor) that transports the children to their different schools. An Uber for children. That from a private point of view. From the public, there are bussing programs where the bus does not belong to a school, it belongs to the municipality and transports children from a neighborhood to their schools (not just one, it travels to several in a single trip). And it works ... The only thing that changes is that the time of entry to the schools, to solve the travel time (If your children's school is the most distant of all), it is more flexible. But not. The idea that all the children in a neighborhood have to study in one place, to solve the transportation problem, is ridiculous. Transportation is an easy problem to solve. Transportation is the kind of problem that we humans love to solve. We build civilizations based on how to solve transportation problems. It is ridiculous to stop a good change in the educational system, just for that. Edit: BTW ... I'm poor. The private transportation industry for children is not really that expensive in my country. Usually it was a neighborhood parent with a minivan who received about $20 a week per child to take them to school. Sometimes even less. It is something sustainable even in impoverished neighborhoods, since it is usually motivated by private initiative among neighbors.
The slur debate needs to stop. Just don't call people slurs. If you want to make edgy jokes, good luck, people will get pissed, but you shouldn't get cancelled or banned for it. Hell even Bill Maher got away with it on HBO a year or two ago. But the only way this issue can be put to bed is if we all acknowledge that racism is bad, including against white people.
Indeed, and teachers need to stop being lazy and referring to systemic racism as racism just because of ease of wording... Its caused all of this.. Every person I know in that age going to uni says you cannot be racist to white people... Because of exactly what I described.. Slurs are bad.. Racism is bad.. We have a ways to go, but it isn't a competition.
Destiny doesn't debate anyone that is very bright. He's one step above the average moron. Check out the last debate when he was on stage with competent people. He was out of his element.
like half of the comments are disagreeing with him or calling him stupid "wahh why does destiny delete all the haters comments!" echo chamber meme on a video less obviously disliked by half the audience.
That’s not true, many conservatives are against sex ed being taught in school in any fashion, they do not believe schools have any business talking about sex (some of them don’t think anyone has any business talking about sex, even parents to children)
@@Thrice_Greatest the problem with your statement is that "they" differs depending on who you ask, and the "narrative" differs depending on who you ask. In other words, its meaningless.
Why do you need a teaching certification for high school but not for college? If they want better teachers, open it up to people with expertise in the real world in subjects. It is absurd that a teacher can teach a class that they don't have any education in (it happens A LOT) but a person with a PhD in the discipline can't. Yet, the same PhD can go and teach at a college or university with no problem. It's just bizarre. Also, why not have schools be like college where a teacher can teach a class, or two classes... or even teach at a few different schools? Also why is there a teacher pay scale with no regard for how educated they are or good they are at their job? The education system makes little sense.
@@christophergreen6595 It's a rigid pay scale based on time served. It doesn't matter how good you are at your job, doesn't matter if you are really highly educated... the only thing that matters is how long you have been on the hamster wheel. We would be far better off with a huge class size and a great teacher than a tiny class size with a terrible one. I think large class size isn't a problem as long as the teacher is excellent. Lower paid assistants like in college (TA's) can be employed to fill the gaps.
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You can’t know that white ppl are more upset over the N word.. You can only know that they are more vocal in their opposition to its use.
Can you tell Destiny to stop playing League
Stop threatening to fire your editor, he does a fucking great job
One of the worst cases of bad faith I have seen from destiny on his point on teenage pregnancy. Destiny knows that conservatives consider abortion murder, yet still makes the claim of utility to reduce rates in teens. Helping something shouldn't require the murder of babies Destiny. Quit attacking strawmen and step on the stage equally. Frankly this one was pathetic.
@@xiqy1959 doesnt change the fact, it is a retarded position to take from conservatives
Destiny will refuse to feed August and keep him in his cage until this channel gets 400k subcribers.
#freeaugust
@@purplemonkeydishwasher9818 nah keep him there
this editing is great
Good fuck him. He's been slacking off.
Kinky
Tryna put this shit inthe anti destiny manifesto’s
man these big panels always have like 4 people that don't add anything and just occasionally derail the conversation
I noticed some non huwites, not watching this one
@@dt4676 huh?
Like destiny?
@Ory Garmy on the bead?
@@trentpeterson3495 *bed, the one on the left
Hearing a conservative act like teenagers dont have a sex drive was not a great way to start for him lmao
That's why the legal age of consent should reflect biology i.e 14-16 like it is in most places
@@mariomario1462 Stop bro, your not debate lording yourself into legally being allowed to bang high-school freshmen.
I don't think that was his point at all. The point he was trying to make is that we have trivialized sex when in fact it is not trivial. We then wonder why there are unintended but obvious consequences.
@@mariomario1462 That's already the case, depending on where you live. Kind of.
In the state I grew up in, minors 16 and older are legally allowed to consent to sexual acts with people who are 5 years older than them, or less. I believe minors between 14 and 16 can consent to acts with an individual up to 2 years older than them, though I could be wrong on that.
@@Substantial-hf1rm kiddo, go troll somewhere else. Just say "I'm not developmentally mature enough to handle this" and move on.
And FYI, consent matters not your weird dehumanizing infatuation with high schoolers
I'm so glad some people take 1084 words to say a 16 word statement.
its just anecdotes for days, you would think these plebs that do this for a living would actually come to a debate with something substantial.
For sure it's super annoying
English in a nutshell.
Children out of wedlock isn't bad because of just religion. Having two parents who are committed to raising a child together is way better for the child.
This is 100% true. Simply in terms of manpower alone.
This can be done out of wedlock
@@_alreph Sure it could be done out of literal wedlock, but such an arrangement would be nearly synonymous with marriage.
@@_alreph MUCH more likely to be done if married though, that's the point. It's statistically better for the child.
@@donwalker1011 Yes, but the point is that those 2 parents are much more likely to be together to raise the child if they are married. Which means it is statistically better for children to be raised by parents who are married.
It's so weird how conservatives and leftists all have this idea that the problem isn't the problem itself, it's that there's some version of a sub-par solution in place and the problem would fix itself if we eliminated that solution.
How the fuck are parents all going to suddenly teach proper sex education if we just eliminated it from school? Why do you think it was ever added to the curriculum in the first place? What problem do you think that was addressing?
I think alot of people feel they can teach sex ed just because they followed the directions on condom packaging. I'm still seeing people perpetuate old wives tales testing methods of shoving stuff up a woman's vagina to see if they have std's on Twitter of all places.
It's obvious how conservatives do this, but could you give an example for leftists?
@@tedculbertson6320 the examples that come to mind are attacking the ACA because it placates people against M4A support, or attacking corporate "wokeism" even if it has positive outcomes. Basically anything they hand-wave away as being "neoliberal" is an example of this. Lots of problems in their eyes are a result of capitalism, and any solution that isnt revolution just delays the revolution.
@@zacharychristy8928 Ok, I agree that's a problem.
@@tedculbertson6320 ill grant you that's a less mainstream left-leaning view but it's hard to tell any more how to compare the opinions on Twitter vs CNN and to know which is more influential. Conservatives do tend to do this across the board because their philosophy is more grounded on individualism and weird religious appeals to the 'invisible hand', lol
The high school I attended was terrible in regards to infrastructure for the students. One year we had well over 5000 students when it should have been around 3000 at max we were packed in the hallways like sardines it simply wasnt possible for anybody to get from one class to the next in 3 minutes and it became a huge point of contention between the student body and school staff. Alot of teachers berated students for something that was totally out of our control and it created a very hostile environment not conducive to learning.
If a school has an overarching atmosphere of teachers vs. students that's 100% not a healthy learning or teaching environment.
I went to a large high school a decade back with a similar problem. 3500 students in a 2000 student school, 5 minutes between classes. Eventually a settlement was negotiated where breaks were expanded to 15 minutes in return for longer classes.
ive never heard so many people say so many words without saying anything
Right!
yeah i had to turn this shit off after 20 mins.
that seems to be the norm in pretty much all debates.
if you see william lane craig try to demonstrate the existence of the christian version of yahweh sabaoth, he always repeats the exact same malarkey, i think someone made a video of all his debates, it's quite funny seeing the whole visuals change but the words remaining exactly the same, even the intonation....
Paradigm shift had a great rant at the 30 minute mark.
@@Lizard1582 lol enjoy your echo chamber ig kiddo
Gawd so many of the people here talk about themselves to justify their positions rather than talking about the data.
Usually how it goes
This is America where all opinions are valid lol
Even data is biased. And by that I don’t mean the actual data, I mean the implications of it and how it is perceived. Unless you know everything about a subject, you’re still just only asking the questions that you can think of to ask, and you might be missing a huge aspect because you’re trying to confirm the bias you already have. Even if data is exchanged from multiple perspectives, people still only take what aligns with them and what they have seen or could see happening.
Personal experiences are still helpful, because at the end of the day that’s where we learn to process the information we receive. Whatever comes out to be the most applicable to each persons life is what they will accept as fact, even if it’s the most wrong a person could possibly be.
Appeal to emotion with experiences, can be a very useful and sometimes necessary tool. By exchanging these experiences, you can point out something that person might have missed within their experience and it could change their entire perspective in rare cases. People process things very differently. Some by correlations to other things, and some by what they can see immediately in front of them. Things you can sense rather than abstract concepts. This makes exchanging ideas just by data very hard. If you showed me a statistic that said everyone thinks bananas are blue, I would assume I was color blind, while someone else might assume they were being conned. Both of those things could be true. Not a good example but it’s what I could think up on the spot.
There are also values to consider. As mentioned in a recent video I saw, some people will not cut off family no matter what. I do not see why, but it’s a value some people have. So even if they were shown exclusive data, the outcome of it is different because we value different things. The only way to get around this is discuss which would hypothetically be more harmful.
@@catheriney6209 Well data is accurate or not accurate and the interpretation of the data is bias, but that's just being nitpicky. The bigger issue is that people come to conclusions first and then get or misinterpret data that helps back up their thesis. I think the best we can do is acknowledge our ignorance and avoid ideological frameworks which necessitate a common good, common evil dichotomous view on issues which prevent reasonable, functional solutions to things.
People’s opinions and biases are formed from their own personal experience. It’s absurd to expect everyone to be stone cold arbiters of facts and data
This panel is an exercise is how you can take a simple idea and communicate it in the longest and preachiest way possible
Conservative: "Parents need to learn to do this, not the government."
The world: "But they don't."
Conservative: "But they need to."
The world:
Conservative: "So anyway, that's why you have to stop changing things on a centralised level."
He's a bit melodramatic, but paradigm shift/the black teacher understands the issue perfectly. (~33:00)
The only utilitarian approach is a centralised approach. Sometimes the centalised approach is terrible and not adjusted well enough to reach the people it needs to reach, but then you have to improve the centralised approach. Saying "The individual has to fix it" isn't governance, that's for individual people to deal with. If governments do that, it's defeatism.
Chat's *instant* memes about his bars are hilarious, though.
This is the fundamental difference between conservatives and progressives. Progressive people see a problem in the world and propose systematic changes to fix it. Conservatives shrug and say people should just make better choices. It’s hard to have a conversation if one side isn’t even interested in realistically fixing the problem.
@@frisater96 Until it becomes their problem, then "the system" has gone too far and now it's not just up to them to induvidually choose "less woke" platforms or movies to watch but rather hollywood or the establishment has to change.
Virgin: Turns off Destiny's stream when they play League, watches Vaush instead, generally enjoys their life, experiencing the touch of lovers from all walks of life, can levitate, chooses not to.
Chad: Watches Destiny's League streams never learning the game but feeding on the scraps of drama every time Hasan turns his head at a weird angle, can't cry, pauses stream to talk to self about their own opinion, wishes they were Melina.
playing it fast and loose with the word chad, are we?
How can anyone watch Vaush and be happy?
@@RanEncounter drugs
@@hmkhgx8068 Are you commenting on the correct video?
@@erikvan9582 yes
Destiny: 'Conservatives don't provide the education or the resources to deal with early teen pregnancy or how to avoid it'
Every Conservative on the panel: 'Let me provide anecdotal evidence as to how me and my conservative parents were raised ~ Look it didn't happen to us!'
Destiny is painting a very diverse group of people with a very broad brush with no factual basis other than politically motivated stereotypes he has bought into. Replying to such an irrational claim with anecdotes is acceptable.
@@micfail2 it would me more specific to say "Republican" law makers at a state level rather than "conservative".
@@paulhodgers agreed, especially with the "at the state level" caveat. In one state you will see conservative legislators funding education of that type specifically because they want to avoid the ending of pregnancies and they know that's a good way to do it, in another state you might have a good chunk of the legislator that is evangelicals which is a whole different ballgame then just regular conservatives. I'm a bit to the left of center, it boggles my mind how little people on the far left understand what people to the right of them think and why.
@@micfail2 I hate to both sides this but *cough* not just the far left has no clue of the opposite sides views *cough*, or even why they hold their chosen view points, which is why the political scene in the US is so toxic, and the UK is half arsed following suit.
@@paulhodgers there are many legitimate examples of what aboutism or however you want to call it, this is not one of them. Multiple studies have been done on this topic and they are unanimous in their conclusion: the alt left does not understand what moderates or conservatives believe and why, while moderates and conservatives overwhelmingly understand what other groups believe and why. This is not a matter of opinion and it's really not even debatable, "both sides" does not apply here. Sure, you can find conservatives and moderates who don't understand the positions of other groups but they are the exception not the rule.
As someone who lives in Europe, hearing that "but what about the bussing" is a serious contention with letting people choose schools is hilarious
It's simply a matter of land mass. The state of Texas could fit 10 European countries in it by itself.
This is why NYC is better. At the high school level you can go to whatever school you want and take public transportation there
that was a truly stupid conversation but bussing does have a bad reputation in the US because of an experiment they did years ago that didn't work out
@@whasian1487 That's just a BS excuse, your infrastructure is horrible. Even the most rural areas here with like 50 inhabitants have some sort of public transportation, and sure Texas could fit 10 European countries in it, it's very easy to pick the 10 smallest countries... Russia can fit inside USA twice but they seem to not have the same problems...
@@Juuk-D it's a matter of logistics. Population density and population dispersement matters. Some school bus routes in my county is a 1.5 hour trip to fill the bus with kids because of the distance between stops. Even europeans who visit the US make youtube videos explaining this.
I always hear about people not learning this in school and I have to honestly ask. Where the hell did you go to school where they didn’t teach sex ed, Jim Crowe, slavery, and the trail of tears? I graduated with a class of 27 at a public school in a mostly conservative town and learned this shit in both middle and high school, I’m genuinely curious if anyone didn’t learn this and if they attended a rural small school or an urban large school.
Coming from my personal black American perspective l, the problem is that's pretty much all they teach you. It wasn't until I was an adult well out of school that I learned anything that brought a sense of unity or patriotism. Like the fact that there were black founding fathers who were as responsible for the founding of this country as the ones we are taught about in school. Or how about the fact that the civil rights act was the third one proposed and the second to be voted into law. The civil rights act of 1866 was the first and the Republican Congress had to override a veto to do it. Things like that and more are not taught in school. Why?
The problem is that leave stuff out. Also my sed ed class was complete joke in terms of preventative action
@@pjh1663 it's impossible to teach everything and then test everything. People already have problems with common core which try to teach the bare minimum and make sure it's in the kids head. If you add all this extra shit to kids that like 60% truly don't care about history plus an overcrowded history lineup.
We learned about Pre colonial America, colonial America up to America like 30 years ago in my school's which were public schools.
Asking why they didn't teach something else isn't a criticism, its nit picking.
If they were purposefully trying to omit history it would be something worth criticizing.
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Not every small community is a good one. I went to a decent high school in Indiana but 30 min away from me I knew kids that didn’t have a health class. I was baffled how much, or should I say how little, my buddies kid learned. I took it for granted when I was there, but now I feel like it’s criminal to send these kids to their doom.
Synthesis Destiny Arc.
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@@shanecoleman5309 God damnit....
Yes.
Synergizer Steve Arc
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*snorts* "aha you see, even destiny cannot avoid engaging in dialectics" *smacks lips*
Daily video to watch during work? Hell yeah love it!
Same brother
It’s the little things :)
6:30 in and the Canadian is talking about the students being in charge of pushing themselves into more difficult classes, and I just have to echo what Destiny already said in the vide. Parents should be taking a more active role in their child's education. Children (even high school), generally speaking, do not understand they gravity of the choices they make. Not opting into AP (IB?) classes or college prep classes severely inhibits your ability to compete in the college admissions landscape. I will admit that college is not for everyone, but a child should not be left to on their own to make that decision.
Absolutely, I regret that I didn’t have any clear career path in mind when I was in high school. I wish my parents were more involved. I turned out alright in the end but I know I’d be in a much better position if I took school more seriously.
The parents who don't take a more active role in their child's education are the same parents who are either uneducated themselves, or just don't give a fuck about investing in the future success of their children. The problem is who we are allowing to birth and raise children. People below 100 IQ should not be allowed to reproduce, in a video game.
Its true for the gifted kids as well as the ones that need a little bit more help. My parents didn't help me for shit when it came to college prep or admissions and financial aid. If anyone prepping for college reads this, for the love of god claim independence when you are doing your FAFSA in the United States. If you allow your parents to claim you as a dependent, you will fuck yourself over on student loan opportunity. If you allow them to take your family's earnings into account, you will get less money for school, and your parents will likely not be able to cover the difference.
My early education got screwed up because I had way too much choice in my classes. I took easy classes on purpose because I just didn't care about school. As a result, I got screwed in important subjects like math.
Isn’t it the left that wants your child to be raised in the education system and not the household anyways?
hope you keep your job august, great work.
to clarify, destiny's joking. but subscribe anyways =)
@@destiny So sad that August is going to lose his job. F
@@destiny it looks like y'all are on track either way
@@destiny no august, he’s not joking so everyone pls subscribe ;)
@@destiny I can't believe Destiny is going to make August join him in his homeless camp...
Gen X'er here. When I went through Health Class, they taught us all about how to properly clean ourselves. They taught girls how to properly deal with female stuff. Those were separated by gender or sex.
Then came drug use & how drugs adversely affected your body.
Then it went into Sex Ed. They taught us every single way to have safe sex. From the pill to condoms to even abstinence. Then we learned about every sexually transmitted disease. They taught it in such a way as to fear monger us over having unprotected sex or sex at all.
To my best recollection, funding became the biggest problem for these classes. Usually Health Class was one Semester (Half the year) & Drivers Ed was the other Senester. When they started phasing Drivers Ed out, Health class went with it.
Where what was being taught was becoming an issue was more about demonizing children for having STDs. Then people took issue with the demonization of certain drugs. Specifically Marijuana. That was because we; as a state, just voted for it to become legal for medical use.
Anyway, this was in California in the 1990s.
I can't stop laughing at the ancient, cranky dude with the American flag in the background. You know his beliefs before he even starts talking and then this whole conversation just confirms your assumptions.
Edit: 34:41 ...Is he hugging a giant teddy bear?
Finally some conservative debate content. The c word and rittenhouse discourses have gotten pretty boring and are really not that impactful
Conservatives are way too easily swayed by the attitude of a person speaking. When that dude finally ended his rambling speech at 38:50 I thought maybe we could finally get back to 1 topic with more substance instead of vaguely gesturing to a bunch of different things, I couldn't believe my ears when everyone else on the panel actually said they were impressed by it. Now I understand how they got sucked up by Trump's BS so easily.
I'm going to start calling my friends ma cracka. It's time for us to take this word and make it our own.
5:40 "...I, myself...I, myself...I feel like I, myself...."
🙄 We get it man. There are two of you.
"abortion isnt birth control" Im pretty sure that an abortion will have great effect on whether a birth will happen
Please reply to me too August! It'll literally make my Christmas,,,,,lol
merry xmas, ryohio!
@@destiny hey, thanks a lot,, lmao. Merry Christmas to you too August.
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I went to a pretty poor school in Texas. Football was where the money went, they were building a new stadium while they were firing AP teachers. My parents are both college-educated, I've always been good at school and enjoyed it, and I ended up valedictorian and going to a top undergrad and a top law school. But despite having a good family and turning out pretty well, I would have done EVEN BETTER if my school had had more money. My textbooks were 20 years old, we didn't offer the same variety of AP classes that wealthier schools did, our AP teachers were generally lower quality, etc. I ended up better than my peers at that highschool, but was still behind my peers in college and I had catching up to do. Family helps, but schools absolutely do need more money. Maybe instead of a top 10 undergrad, I would have attended a top 3 undergrad. I could have had 30 college credits from AP classes instead of 20, saving me money. I could have taken Calculus in high school and not had to catch up on that in college.
Tbf, a lot of sports get outside funding. Just because the football stadium is being rebuilt doesn't mean the money is being deducted from the school budget. If it was a public school, the state decides how much the school gets. Meanwhile, the football program can get funding from something like a quarterbacks club.
Same I went to coppell and my school was good but we spent all our money on a new basket ball arena.
@WhAsian well it also has to do with the expected returns the investment will make, right? Like it might be factored into the districts budget (with subsidies and the like from the state, city, etc...) but be approved because a stadium like that can be rented out to other events, will make a lot in ticket sales over the duration of its lifetime, etc. It sucks, because it means that some sports are given more funding based solely on perceived profitability, limiting the ability of other athletes to reach their full potential but it makes sense in a way.
@@phantimboboto5333 Community outreach/PR in exchange for advertisement placement for a return in investment. If you open up a restaurant in a county where high school basketball is the most popular sport, then the smart move is to reach out to the basketball program because it draws the most eyes. In Texas, most counties are crazy about football. So it's a case of all the programs suck because they don't get outside funding or the culture of the community props one particular sport up above the rest.
@@TheGrowlingAraknid 100%. I remember when I was in high school, all the students, including myself, talked about "how much money the schools spend on the football program". It was a couple years later when I learned how the funding worked then it all made sense.
Man that teacher sure does LOVE to talk 🙄
Spends a lot of time talking, being loud, more importantly for him to be seen fighting for the cause, but actually just wasting time and air.
Which guy joe lewis or paradigm shift? Both are so painful
@@nezmustard Sounds like Destiny
Yeah but it was a nice conversation
@@chrisrock219 damn y’all hated the only black people on the panel interestingggg
August is replying to me directly GIGACHAD
Yeah. I still kinda lean pro life. Sorta. I basically understand abortion is sometimes absolutely necessary and that there are times where it should be an option. But I still want as close to zero abortions to happen as possible. And that's where I absolutely cannot stand the hypocrisy of conservatives. Birth control and condoms should basically be free at every church, school, gas station, and corner hot dog stand. And sex education should be as robust and readily available as possible. Also having some form of guaranteed child care and paid family medical leave would help as well. But no conservative ever is for those things. The things that are actually Pro life in that they would decrease the number of abortions.
Personally im pro choice, but holy shit your take on this was great, i wish people saw the othsr sides point of view
lol i dont see how being against 15 cent condoms being free is hypocrisy smh. Why are we acting this shit is so expensive? You can literally get a pack of 100 for 19 bucks. Delusions
No, most black people have visceral reactions to being called the n word bro. Maybe a level headed person will take time to determine if it’s being used offensively or not but that “er” will get you attacked in most circles.
7:00
no, as a decent human, you know that having sex, before you are married and want to start a family is bad!
why take an action when you are not ready to take responsibility?
having sex when not ready for children, is wrong!
Subbed for August.
Damn, I had never known how seemingly advanced my school was. I thought it was pretty average in quality, but apparently a 1 month sex ed course (covering everything from stds to condoms to stats) and a semester of financial literacy (both being graduation requirements) is super uncommon? That’s the vibe I’m getting from this conversation.
There are extreme cases on both ends. Some schools offer extensive sex ed and financial literacy. Other schools (like the one I went to) had a sex ed class that lasted a single hour and only explained the basics of puberty (I was in 5th grade). A financial literacy class was offered, but it was an online class that more or less just counted for a math credit. If you didn't want to take that type of class there were alternatives.
The problem is that curriculum varies widely, not just between the states, but between individual districts within said states. That is why there needs to be a standardization in curriculum. At least then we know what the standards are.
I would say thats rare.
One thing to keep in mind, being taught that sex equals babies is different than being taught about sex in general. Being raised Mormon, I was taught at an early age that sex had to do with making babies. Which really skewed my perspective on sex. I learned more from my friends than I did my parents
Bonobos and humans are one of the few species that engage in nonreproductive sex. Most animals restrict to mating seasons
@@m33LLS You are totally incorrect. There are countless of vertebrate and non-vertibrate species that have sex for other reasons than having offspring. Hell there are even oral and homosexual behavior from fruitbats to some slugs. I don't know where this internet myth originated from but it is not true at all.
@@m33LLS dolphins fuck pufferfish
It’s so amazing to listen to conservatives wrap their world view into “but I’m different.”
Beautifully hilarious how a conversative kinda of dismantled their own belief of school of choice
38:00 I just love how silent everyone has been during this like wow
What’s his name?
@@MsSteve-zs6bz paradigm shift
This is one of the things that annoy me about conservatives.
They never want to have to deal with problems. Instead they complain and lecture but don't actually do anything.
Conservatives just have to face the fact unfortunately if the parents aren't going to do anything they need to do something.
If they don't then who will. People clearly aren't going to teach themselves how to be good parents.
Also conservatives suck at explaining their viewpoint. They expect people to just figure things out on their own.
Well question what happens if they can't. Well you find yourself back to square one.
sounds like liberals
@@greasedlightning4344 Anime pfp
@@EmeraldaKasim absurd name and wrong
@@greasedlightning4344 L
@@greasedlightning4344 Horrible taste in anime as well
OMG, I was really missing Dylan B (whom I usually see moderating on Hippy Dippy), moderation was disappointing for this one. Was this supposed to be more free form?
1:00:00 I save you an hour of pointless discussion - don't call people a racial slur and expect to get away with it. Its never socially acceptable to call someone a racial slur. If you ain't using a word to demean someone who is a homey or a brother-from-another-mother then it isn't a slur.
@@TheGrowlingAraknid thats true, its just funny how the internet left is trying to defend this somehow, at least own it saying you want to make people mad and thats it, the mental olympics these people are doing is insane
The panel's solution is always, "no solution", the topic is what society can do better, when you answer with "the parents need to do better", that is simply not an answer.
Damn a lot of conservatives still in the comments still thinking destiny is one of them after the Rittenhouse stuff and getting disappointed when he clearly isn't
There are? I am conservative and I never expect him to become conservative.
That's not the reason most of us are here. We actually like to see people with other opinions unlike people on the left that like to stay in their hive. I've watched a lot of his video's, agree with some of his points but not a single second I believed he was on the conservative side. You don't have to be a conservative to know Rittenhouse was innocent, that's a bs argument. The one thing I learned from him is that there is a huge difference between winning a debate and being right.
Do you always make assumptions? I'm not conservative or liberal and find what you said to be completely stupid.
@M S I don't Identify with any party. I think for myself. Most people would probably say I'm independent.
Not true. We have no expectations i dunno what u on about
I agree parents are important and should be more active in their children's life. You would wind up with more responsibility and less policy. You would have less people supporting a 2 tier citizen system.
God I'm being bombarded with Candice fucking Owens adverts on this video and its crushing me inside everytime her voice comes on :(
In the UK (at least in the spec my school followed) Sex Ed was done in a Science class, with both genders and over the course of like a month. It would replace 1 or 2 lessons a week of science.
@@downsjmmyjones101 Bruh, that sounds awful. Things like that should be made illegal.
@@generalgrievous6689 I think youtube agrees because they deleted my comment lol
@@downsjmmyjones101 bruh, some people report comments for no reason.
Im a simple man, I see Destiny vid I click
Beta!
just a sigma male, living in a beta world
3.000 Subs missing guys! Don't make Destiny fire August! dggL
Every dollar you put into feeding august, we sub and hit the bell once. Take it or leave it destiny
Maybe this is just an American thing but the sex ed I was taught in school was light years ahead of what everyone in this panel is talking about.
That's really good!
Which country is this? Is it the norm for most schools there?
@@harutyunyan93 do you mean state?
@@harutyunyan93 it is in almost every part of central Europe. My German sex ed was also light years ahead of what is being talked about here. I guess it's mostly a US conversation in this regard.
I have trouble sympathizing with the views that were on display here as they seem so 1900s like aka outdated.
it makes me laugh the way hippy dippy sounds if you say it fast 3 times
@@tenfourten8438 bividibabidibu
legend has it if you turn the lights off in your bathroom and say "Hippy Dippy" 3 times at the mirror, CTV appears and asks "Why are women?"
Despite all my rage I am still August in a cage
I dont understand why it's so hard to just not insult someone based on their race. Also the guy brings up how they had to fight for the civil rights movement (as if there were no white people in that fight??) but those civil rights weren't "people of color get special privilege" they were blanket statements about not discriminating based on race etc. Weird argument to make in my opinion.
Agreed
Way too long to express everything in words but it was never about equality.
Because immature manchilds and kids like to do what they have been told not to say for some reason, they don't like anyone telling them what they can or can't say for no good reason.
If you think cracker is a racial slur you need to eat grass.
@@extralife220 It’s a racial slur, it targets an individuals race and is an insult spelt derived on the prospect of one’s race, the manner it is used is derogatory and it is a pejorative, it fits all qualities of a racial slur
Comment for the editor! Liked and subed!
I had a good health class in my school and while the kids did giggle a lot we also learned a lot that our parents never taught us.
i didnt get notification for this video. why? i already have hit the bell
-Hears destiny say that augest will get fire if he doesn't get enough subs.
-unsubs.
-Problem?
I had 100 kids in my class. Total. It was the biggest class in years.
I would love to hear Destiny talk to Joe Lewis 1 on 1. He seems pretty reasonable to me.
Joe Lewis convos are mega sleepstiny
@@papaofthejohns5882 lol are they? I’ve never seen any of his content besides panels that he’s on.
Omg no Joe lewis conversations are the worst.. it doesnt really come through so much in this conversation but he's so quietly narcissistic
Joe Lewis sucks
@@johnbaldwell3395 ok sorry about that
I only kinda like your editor so I subscribed but didnt hit the bell
Yo is Destiny playing a game at the same time? That's wild
Yeah but he's typically just dicking around. Not doing anything too intensive
Commitment to cause.
He always does that. When he stops playing a game it's like Goku taking off the training weights. When he busts out the notepad he's gone Super Saiyan. None of the opponents here were of a sufficient power level.
Subscribed for August 🥰
!!Upvote please if anyone would like this aswell.!!
Would love to see a conversation with Brett Weinstien. I watch Destiny and Brett religiously and I find that both are Demonized by the each side.
I find both compelling but want to see my own opinions get ironed out.
Subscribed for Destiny, stayed for August
Good luck keeping that job august, might unsub just to shake it up a little
its crazy that in 2021 we still havent changed how our educational system works.
August pls bear my children and edit my genome xo
Hey Editor if you could upload the whole stream vods with timestamp that would be great :)
August*
And there’s another channel that does that
These "parents just need to be better" conversations seem so useless with. You cant just twist someone's arm into being a better parent and just throwing money at it in the form of some tax credit isn't going to magically create better parents either.
These arguments tend to be unsatisfying to me as well.
There is apparently no room for doing nothing nor is there room for the idea that we're taking actions that serve a minimally effective end at high costs.
Fair enough then what's your solution? Give the right schools more money? More after school programs? To me doing nothing is not an opinion because America as a whole is struggling education wise and parents play a decent hand in the problem it self. They respectfully don't give their time that their kids need in order to support and encourage them in their studies usually for a good reason but some times thru laziness. These same parents then not satisfied with the schools come to complain and many times force solutions that do not help the situation at all. These teacher know how much just a little help from parents can greatly help a student in ways a school could never provide. Also if these parents had a better handle on what schools really need then maybe they would vote for better policies. So the idea of a tax credit, while seemly a outlandish idea comes from those who are trying anything to try and energize the parents to really care about their child's education.
tl'dr: Parents need to get involved with their child's education and every idea should be looked into.
PS: All you guys getting on people talking so much is a joke. Destiny does it all the time. Just say you weren't entertained.
@@jpak32 I dont think I said anything about solutions and throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks (yours) isnt one either.
@@Thundra1000Throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks is a great way to start to find a solution. Their idea just might be possible solution. Could be bad, could be good. Let run some tests and give it a shot. Are you then saying we shouldn't even try to motivate parents and its a lost cause? Understandable but I don't think so.
@@jpak32 You dont set policies based on a theory. Lol
The Reverb Chapter of the last arc had some good memes.
lol children arent learning because their eyes arent used to staring at screens 8 hours a day.... no buddy, they arent learning because you are boring af and they have more distractions at home
I love the people who sit and literally say nothing for the entire bit
I'd much rather have a Fox News dad than a CNN dad.
Maybe if parents didn't mock their children or baby them when they want to have the talk, then maybe they would approach the parents with them rather than keeping you partner a secret until it's too late.
I relate to Destiny. I also was raised by a socially conservative family in a socially conservative town, but later saw such social conservatism as harmful when I became an adult.
Edit: My dad married my mom when he was only 22, for as long as I could remember he seemed to have forgotten what it was like to be a kid.
That was a very intense story Peter. Thank you for sharing.
Do you think Destiny personally edits in the August May Be Fired bit? Or he forces August to edit in that bit too?
Why does it always feel like when Destiny exposes some right wingers they admit everything they're wrong about during the discussion than later claim the opposite...
I don't think the abortion issue has anything to do with keeping people from having kids out of wedlock and teen pregnancies, the argument against abortions is about it being murder to abort the child. So I don't think being against abortion has anything to do with that topic.
I know a priest who claims that teaching any sex ed outside the church is bad, and also the cause of abortions.
Wow a lot less of the usual "I'm a moderate conservative-centrist that listens to Alex Jones, Shapiro and Glenn Beck but Destiny is the one far left extremist I will listen to because he dunks on twitter lefties and that lets me feel open minded while validating my beliefs" youtube comments on this video, I wonder why?
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I haven’t seen a single one, just this comment complaining about it.
@@matsab7930 Yeah because conservatives aren't really open minded and won't even click on a video if they think it might make another conservative look bad.
August if you don't give me 3 videos by Christmas I'm unsubbing from Vaush.
Destiny is so kawai when he blows up.
Is Skippy streaming now?!
RIP AUGUST
How is focusing and the family and opposing abortion not compatible? Doesn't having a child create a family?
The problem is trivializing something that is not trivial (like sex) and the blaming the consequences on a lack of "education" or lack of resources (condoms), which in 2021 is ABSURD giving what kids know, see, and are offered. Then leap to blaming conservative parents which can be proven to be false as the most out of wedlock births are NOT from children of conservative parents. In fact, the group with the highest stats are the ones that vote 96% for democrats. The problem is there is no MORALITY regulating behavior. Morality is the padding, safety margin, inoculation, etc to bad behavior. Behaviors that could lead to bad outcomes should be a MORALE issue long before it's a legal issue or requires abortion.
Morality is a sign that says, "cliff ahead". Legality, abortion, safety nets, are a sign at the cliffs edge that says "cliff". Things should be a MORALE issue first.
3:15 Why did destiny say racial slurs "Redneck" and "Hick" just non-chalantly? Does he not realize that's a racial slur that is leveraged by racist? What's wrong with him wtf. Suddenly skin color is ok to make fun of huh if it's white? Those two words are literally in the category of racist slur in wikipedia if people say otherwise, they're wrong and ignorant. Just don't be racist ffs
Everyone says redneck non chalantly. Just like people use the word fat or bitch or other offensive terms non chalantly. That’s how society works.
@@TonyCox1351 I found the hasanabi viewer. Hi racist
@@LeReVaQ racism is okay.
@@flacornmallrat racism is in most cases not ok, but this guy seems to be confusing Hasan's "Racism against whites is ok" argument with my "People in reality use racist speech whether its ok or not" argument
@@TonyCox1351 all racism is okay, what isn't okay is policing people's speech and thoughts. It's a travesty that adults in western countries don't feel embarrassed when saying "the n-word" like children.
The official battle cry of online debates is: “WAYWAYWAYWAYWAYWAYT!”
Destiny speaks for 3 minutes of this 😳
And all it was was spewing bullshit.
@@trentpeterson3495 no, he had very good talking points as usual, u just dont agree with it
August, I have 40 accounts ready to hit the sub button standing down and standing by.
I hate when Destiny always argues against irrelevant points for no reason. The other guy is saying "the n word has trauma behind it and cracker doesn't", this is a braindead argument. All he's saying is "this slur is worse", that doesn't make the other slur okay. But of course Destiny argues against the trauma part. The trauma part literally doesn't matter. At all. The n word being worse than other slurs doesn't justify those slurs. If there was a slur that was more traumatic than the n word it doesn't justify the n word. Can Destiny please stop arguing against irrelevant off topic points ffs.
Wait ... Bussing is a valid point against that option? WTF!!!
In my country the private transportation of children to their schools is an industry. In fact, it is the main form of this type of transportation. Each neighborhood has a bus or driver (generally a paid neighbor) that transports the children to their different schools. An Uber for children. That from a private point of view. From the public, there are bussing programs where the bus does not belong to a school, it belongs to the municipality and transports children from a neighborhood to their schools (not just one, it travels to several in a single trip). And it works ... The only thing that changes is that the time of entry to the schools, to solve the travel time (If your children's school is the most distant of all), it is more flexible.
But not. The idea that all the children in a neighborhood have to study in one place, to solve the transportation problem, is ridiculous. Transportation is an easy problem to solve. Transportation is the kind of problem that we humans love to solve. We build civilizations based on how to solve transportation problems. It is ridiculous to stop a good change in the educational system, just for that.
Edit: BTW ... I'm poor. The private transportation industry for children is not really that expensive in my country. Usually it was a neighborhood parent with a minivan who received about $20 a week per child to take them to school. Sometimes even less. It is something sustainable even in impoverished neighborhoods, since it is usually motivated by private initiative among neighbors.
The slur debate needs to stop. Just don't call people slurs. If you want to make edgy jokes, good luck, people will get pissed, but you shouldn't get cancelled or banned for it. Hell even Bill Maher got away with it on HBO a year or two ago. But the only way this issue can be put to bed is if we all acknowledge that racism is bad, including against white people.
Indeed, and teachers need to stop being lazy and referring to systemic racism as racism just because of ease of wording... Its caused all of this.. Every person I know in that age going to uni says you cannot be racist to white people... Because of exactly what I described.. Slurs are bad.. Racism is bad.. We have a ways to go, but it isn't a competition.
38:48 best rant of 2021? 😂😂😂😂😂
If August gets fired I’m unsubscribing from TH-cam and monetarily never going to subscribe to Twitch.
I know it's kind of a meme but just to make sure please sub cos this August guy does some of the best editing I've seen in this platform.
I am almost sure that after Destiny says something, the conservatives on the panel think to themselves...."fuck, this guys good."
That's why Santa at the bottom center there dropped a bunch of dumb conspiracy shit and dipped immediately before anyone could respond lol
Destiny doesn't debate anyone that is very bright. He's one step above the average moron. Check out the last debate when he was on stage with competent people. He was out of his element.
@@drshlotzkin Send me the link
@@newyorksbeerreviews1280 Its here on Destiny's channel - Destiny Vs Entire Panel & Moderator In HEATED Anti-Vaxx Debate ft. AJW, Jack Posobiec
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Lmao destiny mods deleting comments again aye? 🤣 Such transparency.
...TH-cam auto-deletes comments with certain words or phrases. You really should know this by now, trent.
@@TheMarkSasuke64 I do that's why I don't use those words and or phrases.
like half of the comments are disagreeing with him or calling him stupid "wahh why does destiny delete all the haters comments!"
echo chamber meme on a video less obviously disliked by half the audience.
@@BrendanishLeo I mean when they delete the ones spacifically rebuttibg his claims. There's a bit more to it.
Destiny, No. They are against the indoctrination embedded in all the subjects you speak of. There's a neutral way, and an embedded way to educate.
That’s not true, many conservatives are against sex ed being taught in school in any fashion, they do not believe schools have any business talking about sex (some of them don’t think anyone has any business talking about sex, even parents to children)
@@TonyCox1351 Depending on the age/grade I agree. However when it comes to a viable age/grade, they are embedding a specific narrative.
@@Thrice_Greatest the problem with your statement is that "they" differs depending on who you ask, and the "narrative" differs depending on who you ask. In other words, its meaningless.
@@TonyCox1351 Hey that's like your opinion man
Why do you need a teaching certification for high school but not for college? If they want better teachers, open it up to people with expertise in the real world in subjects. It is absurd that a teacher can teach a class that they don't have any education in (it happens A LOT) but a person with a PhD in the discipline can't. Yet, the same PhD can go and teach at a college or university with no problem. It's just bizarre. Also, why not have schools be like college where a teacher can teach a class, or two classes... or even teach at a few different schools? Also why is there a teacher pay scale with no regard for how educated they are or good they are at their job? The education system makes little sense.
Teacher pay scale.... oh you mean you get more $ for having experience?
@@christophergreen6595 It's a rigid pay scale based on time served. It doesn't matter how good you are at your job, doesn't matter if you are really highly educated... the only thing that matters is how long you have been on the hamster wheel. We would be far better off with a huge class size and a great teacher than a tiny class size with a terrible one. I think large class size isn't a problem as long as the teacher is excellent. Lower paid assistants like in college (TA's) can be employed to fill the gaps.