WHY I LEFT GERMANY
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Here comes the bad, sad, ugly, and truthful news. It isn't meant to hurt any single person/individual but it is what I have been dealing with the past couple of months.
Dealing with negativity is a lot easier with your family and friends nearby... Which is why I am here. Don't worry, I will be back.
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Happy Thursday. Let me say here that doing something for your mental health (in the realm of normal) is never a bad thing. You are the only person that can care for yourself and look after yourself. I am hoping when I go back to Germany that I will be in a better head space to tackle the negative energy that is floating around the country :( I know that it is a temporary problem and it is not how I know German people to act.
There are assholes everywhere. But there are also many dark-skinned people who never hear the N-word in Germany. you shouldn't take it personally. it is definitely not the color of your skin. I too get insulted from time to time by people of the same skin color, namely Caucasians. later found out that the person has Alzheimer's and so on. I just think that you're just so stressed out. Corona demands a lot from us. I'm also pretty annoyed at the moment.
I'm white , but foreigner and live in Germany 20 years now . Working, paying bills , speak perfect German and face racism regularly. It's everywhere. Sometimes I just wonder will I find a place to live , where I can live without hostility.
Not that you need anyone's opinion, ever, but - you did the right thing for you!! Everything you said made perfect sense. You're a grown ass woman and owe no one anything. Also, fuck those people, what the heck. You had the chance to get a vaccine on top of everything, how cool is that!!! I'm happy for you. Enjoy your trip and your family and friends :) Ganz liebe Grüße aus Heidelberg!
@@dice3704 I don't know if it's racism because then you would be attacked because of your white skin color. You have to get a thick coat. The nerves are just a little bit bare at the moment. There are Karens as well as in Germany. You just don't know what's behind it, often it's a mental illness, schizophrenia, psychosis and so on. there is a woman who washes the sidewalk with water at this time of year .... And she obviously also commits a criminal offense because she deliberately sprayed someone that is assault. - I once learned in driving school. If you drive through a puddle of water and do not pay attention and the passer-by gets wet then it is a physical injury. 😊 I'm digressing now. It is a very uncomfortable situation to be verbally abused and it is completely unexpected ...that hits you especially when you've had a bad day. My question is also how many positive letters, opinions, gestures, kind words have you heard in this country?
@@Bla274 in Heidelberg war ich mal auf eine Hochzeit eingeladen😊
This is my 3rd month in Germany. I'm here as an exchange student and I can relate so much! I've never felt so unwelcomed in any country and I was wondering if I'm the only one. Can't wait to leave.
I absolutely agree, although I was born in Germany
Upvoted
What region or city were you in if I may ask?
@@alesto3779 Bochum in Nordrhein-Westfalens
@@psimca Wow, that region is even reputed to be "friendly" compared to Bavaria, where I am currently. Thank you, now I know that the only solution is to move completely out of this crappy country.
I spoke to some foreigners living in Germany. They have their own life stories and bad experience here. But what their are all agreed with was that they travel back and forth to their country of origin (every 3-6 months) to get back to their normal mental state otherwise "you can get crazy in Germany". The amount of hate and aggression in Germany is enormous.
@user-qy6nr9yp3s
I have never read so much nonsense and lies.
@@vorname-kk2tvgermans are miserable themselves. How can a person walk around their whole life with a frown and not be miserable and most of your women look like men that’s why it’s full of Thai brides and gays and it is the most boring country I have ever been to
It's 100 % true. I don't know a foreigner in Germany who hasn't been either verbally or fiscally attacked by local residents.
@@hristinaradeva6761 That is such bullshit and you know it.
I feel that as a german too whenever I come back from abroad and learn that society can be friendlier
I am from Hungary and I could not finish my university so I went to Germany to work. From the first moment it was horrible in Bayern . They do not want to talk to you, in the Rathaus loudly saying heavy racist comments . At work constantly you have to smile and ask 1000x wie gehts or the team lead calls you for a talk. There is no socialisation, Germans do not wanna mix with you. You do not get any help or kindness , Germans are cold as ice , no emotions or empathy at all (at the vet office after putting my dog to sleep they called the security and took me out as I was crying very loudly hence I was bothering others….). A lot of time they do not pay for your work, you have to live with 5-10 people in a room without heating, work conditions are poor and dangerous. Germans keep reminding you that you are always lower than them, I call this indirect racism , where they explain themselves indirectly so you cannot say that hey , racism..I live already for 4 years at home , but I still work with germans in IT. Horrible.. Constant humiliation and you are not allowed to talk back. Now that I work in a needed profession every week they call me with an offer to move back to Germany as they need IT. Sometimes I still have a nightmare that I am waking up there in that cold, traumatising environment. I am sorry but Germany is a horrible place where identity and being you is not allowed. Very oppressing culture , kind of robot like. I will never go back to there, not even for holiday.
What a painful story. They treated you unkindly. Relatives think that everything is easy abroad. I have been through this - all they did was to make me feel unwanted 😭😭😭
Yeh I don’t get why so many people think Germans feel they are superior. In the uk we look down on the Germans - it’s the opposite of what you experienced 😂😂😂
@@hmu05366 because they couldn't put you down to your knees in WW2 😄😃😀
I am going through this now, everyday i am wondering how i can leave, only good thing here is safety, i have gone from a friendly social person to an indoor cat with a big tv lol
Absolutely truth, I can confirm that after 20 years being nurse in Germany. Patients are never, never grateful, they only complain about everything…I had a friend, American lady, she was professor in University, she told me that her colleagues are treating her like rubbish. She left after 5 years, she was educated, civilized and nice person. Germans, why are you like this, why??!
I'm German and this attitude of Germans is the biggest reason why I live happily in the US for 36 years now. Every time I went back to Germany I got traumatized because I just am not used to this low kind of interaction anymore and don't want to join them.
The neighbor of my family in Germany poisoned their new little trees that were supposed to build a nice property line because she is a Zugereiste" referring to my mother moving there from Northern Germany because she got married to my dad 25 years ago.
I was mistreated and my kids emotionally abused by teachers after we moved from Berlin to Northern Germany.
German people are harsh, always looking for the negative, always finding fault even when the job was done 120%. It is also interesting that women are the worst.
I am a psychologist, Psychology was "invented" in Germany but the Germans have never heard of applying it to daily life and their interaction with each other.
Interesting is also that they never follow local rules when they are visiting foreign countries. They are incredibly disrespectful and ignorant and always argue, lecture and criticize! It's annoying, very shameful and very very embarrassing!
probably they apply psychology, but in a negative way towards others.
Psychology was invented by a Jew ...
But they request foreigners must obey their rules and enjoy preaching the foreigners even though they are the one who are wrong😅
Women have bad attitude yes , it is odd …
You are talking "Geschichten aus dem Paulanergarten" from ... 1988 (2024 minus your 36 years in the US). When the Berlin Wall was still up. Seriously?
After 4 years of living here in Berlin, I am finally done with this country and I am leaving. I am the only asian in our apartment building and an elderly couple living above constantly attacks me. It all started from a one time incident of me cooking Pasta with "garlic" in it. Apparently the elderly couple above is allergic to garlic. It left a bad first impression and since then they have been aggressively making me feel that I don't belong. They called the apartment owner to complain about my cooking, it then escalated to my husband's smoking when they can no longer complain about my cooking. They then claim that I am cooking something exotic and I should go back to where I come from. Everytime they know we are cooking, they shout and make loud remarks. I never even cook with spices anymore, my life here has been bland like the RACIST germans living above me.
They traumatized me so much to the point of causing my miscarriage due to the constant attacks. My mistake was never telling the doctors about this nor asking some professional help. It took awhile for me to accept it was RACISM as I have never experienced this ever. I lived as a Digital Nomad before settling in Berlin and I was never treated like this before. So I was in denial for a long time. The final straw for me was when the Racists called the apartment owner and complained that I cooked "two times" in a day.
I am so traumatized by living here in Germany that I am in the process of selling everything in the apartment to leave in a month. I would rather contribute my high taxes to where I am wanted and definitely it's not in Germany.
If you can, try the US. We have our problems but Asians as a group are the highest income earners. Bureaucracy is simpler too.
India is a better place for you:)No problem with garlic😂😂😂
I’m so sorry. I’m also an asian living here in Berlin and faced similar situations like you. The city or the country itself is a complete joke. They all are so entitled, rude and out of touch. I always wonder how this country became so rich 😂
@@jordinhanCan you go deeper? I’ve never been to Germany
Berlin has become such a sh…hole.lived there many years ago and loved it but when I went back recently, it felt full of hate, anger and jealousy. I couldn’t wait to leave
We spend most of my life in Germany. Have university degrees, earn above average.. our first languages is German.. But we never felt accepted! These people are full of negativity, hate and racism. Since we have a small baby, we have decided to finally leave this country. It makes me sick to see how much they hate kids, especially when they're not Bio Deutsch.
Bist du aus der Türkei?
@@Mohan778 nein, ich denke mir auch ab und an wie es für Leute erst sein muss die eben auch anders aussehen? Gestern in der Ubahn hatte ich so eine Situation beobachtet, schrecklich...
@toufak Sich über angeblichen Rassismus und Hass auskotzen, aber selbst mit so einem rassistischen, gehässigen Mist kommen. Ich jedenfalls habe noch nie erlebt, dass Deutsche rassistisch sind oder einen Hass auf Kinder haben. Vielleicht liegts ja am Ende doch an Dir, ganz unabhängig von der Herkunft.
Americans are too hyper sensitive we must realize that they have a different culture then ours. Americans can be so needy sometimes. I went their twice and the people are straight forward and down to earth!! Planning to visit again this fall. You can't generalize an entire country for some bad experiences.
I am from Serbia and came here because of bombing from nato , but also because the Pflegedienstleitung from Germany ( Universitätsklinik) came to Belgrade to “fish” nurses for Germany. The government here is not able to solve problem of “Personalmangel” in healthcare for 50 years…Incapable politicians here. So, Germany has never invest 1 cent in our growing up and education and become professionals for free. They don’t appreciate that at all.
I left Germany after 5 years. It was just too hard to make friends.
This is very true. My parents came to Germany 50 years ago and we still face daily racism and rude German behavior. People are so negative and toxic and they hate you when you are successful and they love to destroy your success when they can. It’s called “Schadenfreude“
In my opinion there aren't many countries where it's easier to make friends than Germany, especially former Eastern Germany.
You often hear that Germans are cold and it's easier to make to make friends in Southern Europe or the US for example. But that's nonsense. The difference is that Germans are more honest and less superficial than other people. Go to Spain or the US for example and you will fast get to know people and they tell you bullshit like "You are always welcome here" or "You'll always have a place to stay when you are in the area" but they never mean it. If a German tells you can stay at his place you can be sure that he means it.
I have friends from all over the world and they all say how easy it is to make real friends here. On the other hand people I know who moved to the US or other other places that are known for there welcoming attitude complain that it almost impossible to make real friends. It's easy to find people to hang out or party but not real friends.
This feedback I got EVERY SINGLE TIME.
@@PeterLE2 Lol, Germans are literally the biggest backstabbers.
@@majormononoke8958 yes 100% true
@@Fragenzeichenplatteexactly you treat people as untitled for wanting human connection this is normal for everyone to want human connection only in Germany is it considered untitled to want to have friends your people are miserable but just because you all hide it well doesn’t mean you life isn’t shit
LOL the fact that many people watched this and shared their similar stories proves a point. I’m 5 years in and I wanna leave too
6 months in, I despise it here too.
sameee
3 months. hating everything here
Then leave. If you have a problem, leave.
@@MozartOfficial already did😂😂😂
The whole thing with people telling you to return to africa reminds me of when i returned to germany from the US, people in school would constantly bully me and tell me to return to the US not knowing i was actually from Würzburg. When they found out i wasn’t actually american their attitude changed. People need to be kind
No, people need to respect the local cultural traditions in their area. I moved from a medium sized S.Texas town to a smaller one about 45 mi. away, the locals shut us out for several years until they knew they could trust us. This has everything to do with the outsider than with the locals. This brat should've walked around the old woman, but that's not what she wanted to do. She forced this negative interaction to happen, not the other way around.
@@austntexan what the old woman did wasnt excusable. There was zero justification for that. Its not hard to not be a POS
I'm so tired of the media pushing racism in the U.S. They're idiots. The fact is the U.S. is the least racist country in the world.
@@retireorbust a nation divided
@@retireorbust You are 100% wrong, Randy. Systemic racism and police brutality against Black and brown people is a public health crisis in the US and the fact that Germany has racism does not change that.
Unfortunately the ‘nastiness’ had nothing to do Corona. Empathy is not a common trait in Germany and Austria. Many people are living their protagonist lives and everyone else is just in their way.
Thank you for your honesty. I left Berlin after 5 years. Tension in the air with angry locals is palpable
As a german, don’t go to Berlin! Its really the worst big city in Germany! Go to Leipzig or Hamburg instead, it’s way better!
@@TheRealF.ckingJesuspls give us more knowledge
i had such an encounter with a Racist lady in Düsseldorf Airport. i was taking my Coffee and looking for a place to sit, there was one with electrical socket so i plugged my Laptop i took some time to do some work while charging it. There was a Phone charging near me, one Lady came angry to me and was yelling " Er will mich Klauen er will mich Klauen" , someone Translated to me that she was accusing me of trying to stealing it. Lady i am a Computer System Engineer i almost certainly make multiple times your salary and maybe your entire yearly income in one month. I am no Refugee still they deserve respect and you end up making yourself looking like human garbage
Most of them are human garbage, and certainly awkward people
They are lunatics here
I have been dealing with the same situations for the last 12 years.. my advice, do not move here unless you are desperate.. shitty weather, some people are rude and nasty. Some times its racism, mostly it's just the way they are.. i haven't got used to this kind of co-existance, and i dont think i will ever do.. and trust me, the money is not worth it...
cannot agree more to this, you summarized the whole feeling 👏🏼👏🏼
No matter what how hard you work, still these people complain and one mistake then you are finished!! I am going through this very difficult phase where these people keep reminding me how terrible am I, although I give my best.
Yes
@@saniya7649 Is it because of work? Is there a way to avoid, for example if you work remotely? Or you will be harassed everywhere?
@@Adam-nw1vy avoid working at remote areas! Go for interview, give a trial if you like it then say yes! Second tip would be complete your C1 and then apply, it would help you as options will remain open to you. In this way you will choose the company and not the other way around.
Planning to leave germany soon. Its not working for me
I was on my way to my job in Germany. At a train station the was a guy with a musicbox and who sang rock hits live there. And he was really good! No one...absolutely NO ONE looked at him. Every single person ignored him, just like trying hard not to move the eyes in his direction! It was very very weird for me.
But then two security guys came to him and wanted just to see his papers, that he is allowed to do this. Only at that moment everyone started to look at this situation with a big nasty smile on their face. They wanted to see him get arrested or like that. He showed them something and they went away.
This was the perfect picture of germany.
So basically germans are suicidal and depressed
I am not German but I would be happy not to listen to loud music at a train station. That is annoying
yes exactly "the perfect picture of germany" - I myself have experienced very similar situations. something is very very wrong with germans and it honestly spooks me sometimes.
Thats Germany in a nutshell.
Yes! Exactly, the best description of Teutonic nature 🤢
I have been experiencing lots of negativity in Germany too😢 My German boyfriend's parents are awful to me. His mom sends me mean messages and I told his parents I was born and raised in America but they still continue to ask me questions about China. My boyfriend's dad even pick things out of his soup at an Asian restaurant and ask me what everything is even though I said many times "sorry, I don't know." I feel like if a white person say they are American, they wouldn't be questioned more but many Germans keep making me feel like I can't be a real American😔
Your looks must be Chinese.
Exactly. Germans have culture of associating ethnicity and nationality, and sees countries as ethnic states. To their view, Germany almost certainly is a white country where they "tolerate" nonwhites at their whims and demands. America too is a white country, which is only slightly more tolerant because of history of immigration.
I would break the relationship off if I were you
@@val-schaeffer1117 As an American living in Europe this seems true of Europe generally.
But based on your name you are also Asian. Many have been jn America for generations. But our ethnic ancestry never gets wiped away. If I moved to tokyo my future kids would never be 100% Japanese. They could know the language and culture. But ancestry still not japanese.
I'm an eastern European living in Germany, in a small town. My husband (german) doesn't have friends anymore, since he married me. He was excluded from all the groups, quietly. They are all nice and "friendly" when we meet on the street but the fakeness it's obvious... they are neidisch und hinterlistich.
The older people are very mean, bitter... and direct. And when they don't say it to your face, they speak/gossip (loud) about you, with you standing 2m away.
And YES, they are RACIST!
I'm so sorry this happened to you. It makes me really sad to read all this, as a German I never realized how bad racism in Germany really is😔
Out of curiosity, what is your ethnicity or nationality? I didn’t realise some Germans were this xenophobic and racist to east Europeans.
@@sunflower9680, I am from Romania.
With people who don't know me or my husband, I could "pass" as a german... until they hear my accent and then they ask me where am I from. And they are very surprised when they hear my answer - "But you don't look like one... you're white/not brown/not a rroma" (they say Zigeunerin). 😐
That's why I avoid talking to my son (5) when we're out in the park and are other people around us.
And that's why I stopped visiting my mother in law, because she had a very big problem with us (my husband and I) speaking to our child in both languages. She said we must speak only in german with him, because otherwise he will have difficulties in kindergarten. BS!!
At that time, my son spoke words from both languages, but now he refuses to speak to my family, he understands what they are saying but he answers in german. It's heartbreaking.
@@Nobody.s_business -
I’m sorry for your experiences. It’s sounds tough and uncomfortable. Such encounters would wear me down, so you’re strong for managing to deal with it. Yes that is BS since the best way to learn multiple languages when you’re young is being immersed in them and being spoken in them, by doing this you pick it up instantly. Hope things improve for you or that you move to a friendlier less bigoted place.
@@Nobody.s_business I can relate. If I could count the times people here in the US tell me " but you don't look hispanic" because I'm a green eyed blonde. Only when they hear an accent they realize I'm "not white" and they're curious. I'm originally from Cuba and my parents came from Asturias during the Civil War. I don't take it personally. It's mostly out of curiosity.
Its "Lagerkoller", but no reason for being racist. Sorry you had to deal with that
I lived in Germany before the pandemic and encountered the same rude behaviour almost everywhere I went. So, no excuse. I’m really sorry for your negative experience. I totally feel you. I hope you are in a better place now. X
i wonder who will put an effort to part of a rude society for decades.
I’ve been to Germany many times and longest stay was 90 days and I have to tell you, they are not friendly people. You can’t just have casual conversation with the butcher or cashier so friendship is hard to establish.
@@Joeladgra Germans are well aware of the American penchant for friendliness to strangers, which many dismiss as superficial and fake (while at the same time acknowledging the German reputation worldwide for negativity and coldness).
@@ingilizcetvim Not my mother. Nearly 70 years ago she left Germany and its negativity behind and never looked back.
@@dkim2011”superficial, fake” 💀 I’ll take that any day over that bullsh!t y’all think is acceptable
Wow, watching this after a year and now as a Ukrainian refugee in Germany, I can tell I had almost exactly the same experience with old people here in Germany, they are the craziest bulliest people I've ever met in my life, sorry you had to go through that.
Same here
100% true
Go back and defend the frontline, you coward.
Some of them were probably Nazis in the 1930s.
@@AnimatedBlastthat would make these people over 100 years old.
I think this pandemic has really brought out the worst in people all over the world.
OMG!!! You took the words right out of my mouth! Thank you! People have become horrible!!!
Don't blame the pandemic
Nah people have always been shit everywhere in the world
No, it`s not. Nazis and other racists are particularly numerous in Bavaria and East Germany.
I would say it brought out the worst and also the best.
Thank you so so so very much for this video and to everyone who commented. All this time I thought I was the problem! I’ve changed myself tried everything to be accepted in society, wondered what I did wrong but at a certain point I couldn’t figure it out anymore. The world is big and my whole life the life experience in Germany (as a Black woman) was my world. I need to travel until to explore other worlds, people and other mentalities. I’ve always gave the people in this country the benefit of the doubt but you and the people in the comments had the same experiences - the society and atmosphere in this country is so rude and extremely negative. It almost crushed my spirit. So thankful for the internet! I’ve once told a therapist that I feel like I’m surrounded by predators. If you don’t have good friends, a family or a safe home - it’s very hard here to say the least.
I know exactly what you mean. Just leave as soon as you can, it will not get better. I persoanlly waited too long and regret it now. The whole world is in front of you and no, not everywhere is like it's in Germany. I feel truly happy now living in another country with friendly, loyal, open people , and going to buy groceries I know I will not be yelled at by a cashier for no apparent reason. Happiness is in the small things.
@@Vivi-vg9lx Wow the cashier screams at you ? For what ?
@@Shikami85 forgot to take a basket (corona times). At the post office the lady at the counter wasn't very nice either when I needed a package to be shipped the same way I shipped it last time. Raising her voice is apparently the greatest idea in her mind to make her point and tell me it's not possible. But it's quite a frequent thing to happen there.
Americans are too hyper sensitive we must realize that they have a different culture then ours. Americans can be so needy sometimes. I went their twice and the people are straight forward and down to earth!! Planning to visit again this fall. You can't generalize an entire country for some bad experiences.
@@Shikami85 yesm screams, also bus drivers and neighbours and hausmeisterss
Even as a German, other German people say I am weird because I am a cheerful person who enjoys to laugh and have fun😂 Someday someone told me why I was laughing and whether I was laughing about her😂🙄
German people still have post traumatized in their genes...? Post world war, they are just hard working developing their country....?
Is that the reason they are stiff n no colors..?
@@askew358 what do you mean
Same thing happened to me. I was bullied in school for being generally happy and louder than the other people there. I moved to France now and I have to say, it’s way better and easier to make friends. Everyone accepted me instantly and they were really kind, compared to the people I met in Germany.
Stimmt! 😅
I just came to Germany magdeburg and cannot wait to get back to the UK. Wish I never came. Arrogant rude people. Having travelled to many countries this is the worst I've had so far.
U sure u not just very unlikable?
@@SovermanandVioboy dude stop it 😂
you can t change your people by replying all comments 😂
@@NairaKa He's a German douchebag who can't accept the truth lol. He just proves that everyone is right with their opinions and expierences they made with Germans.
Btw. did you know Germans are the most hated folk in the EU?
@@SovermanandVioboyif anything you prove their point😹
@@NairaKaGerman here. I do want to defend my people, but not the way you think. 😂
I feel sorry for you. I live in Berlin for 5 years and experienced rude behavior too. I'm totally 'white' eastern European girl and, working all the time, quite well educated and speak good German and still treated like stupid 'Putzfrau' by some German ppl.
I stopped saying that I am Polish and eventually escaped to the Netherlands, which is amazing. People are kind and I am not bullied at all anymore. In Germany it was insane. They destroyed my country and act like they are superior, it is so ironic. This hate thowards Poles is very deep in the culture and even older then Germany 😆
Berlin is the shithole of germany you can´t compare it with Germany.
Ohh noo, I'm also eastern European, Croatian, I don't speak a word of German and I plan on moving there...how the hell will I be treated then😥
@@maxmustermann8167 but it's the hearth of Germany, right?
@@shafuimcoming5151 No, nobody in Germany likes Berlin.
You are right honey. I feel very very sorry for you and I‘m ashamed for those people. Be sure, there are a lot of people in Germany, who are nice and worth of you getting them to know. I send a big hug to Florida. Lass den Kopf nicht hängen. 🤗🌻
Hayley you're NOT offensive at all. I agree with everything you said in this video. These are also the reasons why I want to leave Germany. The most things I don't like is really poor customer service, unfriendly people, people suddenly screaming at you on the street/making fun of you/sometimes even threatening you (mostly drunk people). Germans in general are really so pessimistic and too serious.
I had many experiences where people literally stared at me, because I'm not following the boring fashion, which is common in Germany.
Of course not every German is like that, but still most people are just unbelievably rude, without even knowing the person.
Especially for introverts it's so hard to survive in German society. You're always made fun of: You're so quiet, you never say anything didn't realize you were here. (Are people just dumb or don't they realize that this is hurting)
I miss my time in other countries where all people are friendly and want to integrate you into their culture/ introduce you to their friends. I lived in Singapore for a little less than 1 year and you just realize the differences. I had a reversed culture shock when I came back to Germany.
As soon as I get the opportunity I will leave BRD.
I hate Germany, people are so unfriendly. Unfortunately can’t leave because the father of my kids is German and does not want to leave. When the kids move out I am going back to NL.
There is a difference between being straightforward and being mean. There’s also a difference between being nice and being fake (that goes for america)
@@TheRealF.ckingJesus She said she’s from the Netherlands, so why are you droning on about America?
@@DARKSEID76 that was just an example for the thing I said? I wasn’t referencing her
Was married to an African, he joined me in Germany ( he has a university degree) and run away to Holland after 5 months. He couldn’t stand the cops and racism of Germans
i am born and raised in germany studied here, work and pay my taxes. Still many people discriminate me just because my Name is turkish. The problem in germany is not rasicm its more that a lot of german people feel they are superior over you what make the country cold and depressed.
There is nothing wrong with being Turkish you can live in Germany and still accept your own true identity as Turkish migrant. Our fathers worked a lot to get in your place and we should never apologise for who we are.
The 'undercurrent' is still there, well hidden, but still there....
@@callmekhaleesi excuse me? Turkish migrant?! This person was born and raised in Germany! What am I missing here?!
No, the issue is that many people from turkey don't want to be part of the community. They only want the benefits. My best friend is from turkish descent. Third generation. Good education, good income. Years back he told me, that turkish people always speak badly about germans behind their backs. The issue is that turkish people feel superior, right?
@@siemensohm TRUE!!!
I am a native german. and you are telling the truth. We like to complain about other people. i feel sorry about that
Ist menschlich nicht deutsch, in anderen Ländern ist das auch nicht anders, teilweise sogar schlimmer. Finde eher die Deutschen lassen sich gegenseitig ziemlich in Ruhe, aber kann nur von den Städten sprechen, auf dem Land mag das anders sein..
Alles schlecht - Alles gut, Überall anders besser - Deutschland Deutschland über alles... = das ist für mich typische deutsch. Arschlöcher gibts überall und immer - und in diesen Zeiten überhaupt kein Wunder (Indien, Ungarn, Trump/USA, Brasilien, Polen, Russland, Weissrussland, Indonesien Myanmar, Nordkorea, China usw. usw. usw. usw......)! Die grundsätzliche Fragestellung sollte immer sein: "Bist du ein Faschist (etc.), oder ein Mensch?" und Punkt!
@@b.b.8163 Bist du ein Sozialist oder Kommunist?
@@mikeh.7025 etwas dazwischen
My highest respect for your honesty!
I will leave soon to Malaysia!
I lived 17 years in Germany and I agree with you . What you think about Germany I just fehlt the same . I am portuguese andI fehlt awful there for your reason.That Why I decided come back home. Actualy I got married a German thats why I landed there. But it was really bad. Because arrogance is everywhere.
@@Fragenzeichenplattearogance looks like you exactly.
Living in bubble how everything is so great in Germany and best but when someone point out some bad things in Germany you go nuts.
Even tho i have no bad expiriance with people offending me or so i can feel how much they talk about greatness of Germany and act like others have no watter and electricity except them.
Im not mad and i dont even think they do it purposly, they are just thought like that.
They look everything trough money and dont understand the concept that quality of life doesnt equal the money.
Place where i live people are nice and much better then i expected honestly, and even if i come a cross to some "im/we are above you", im enough self confident and inteligent to answer them and left them speachless., so it doesnt really troubles me at all.
But i can understand people are dealing with different things in your country and you should too.
Lithuanian here, who moved to Germany when i was just a lil child. Can relate to everything you spoke about and i also plan to move out of here. The negativity is just... let´s say i am speechless. Still after being here for a longer time now
What do you mean about negativity??
I'm thinking of moving from Lithuania to Germany (or the US). I need to make up my mind
uh, so sad :( asholes are everywhere, thats not a specific german problem, i hope.
@@freakjof6143 no IT IS!
Negativity? Isn’t Lithuania the country with the highest suicide rate in Europe?
@@adrena7321 Move to Germany. Despite what people say about Germany on here (which is totally valid), it is miles ahead of the US in everything. This is just my opinion, but up to you which country you want to move to. Good luck with wherever you decide to go my friend :)
Being German and living in Germany I can very much relate to this. I had elderly ladies screaming at me for no good reasons in an elevator and even those ones I've known for years who are living in the same street. But it was not only German elderly ladies. It's not only old people, but younger ones and older ones, men and women. Lots of people are in a very bad place!
I even witnessed colleagues in the office screaming at each other. It was a conversation about whether it's harder right now for people with children and that quickly turned into a heated discussion. ("People who don't have children can't understand our problems with working in home office at all. You have no way of knowing what it's like. You can't understand/comprehend/empathize.") As soon as Germans start talking SOMEONE needs to be right. Usually the younger person or the one considered to be inexperienced is supposed to agree with everything the older person says. In Germany you will NEVER hear people say: Let's agree to disagree!
I've also met a lot of young men telling me that they are depressed because of all the new rules and regulations like not being able to go to the gym and at the same time losing their jobs. Germans have a tendency to take all this (the pandemic) very seriously while at the same time taking it personally.
Although all this certainly has some pretty devastating consequences the economic and personal crisis might also be a chance for some people to reinvent themselves, to learn new skills and prove to themselves that they are resilient or can at least become stronger.
There is a saying that might be helpful: "Die Lage ist hoffnungslos, aber nicht ernst." That translates as: "The situation is hopeless, but not serious." I think you can also find this quote in the great ironic book "The Pursuit of Unhappiness" (=Anleitung zum Unglücklichsein) by the psychologist Paul Watzlawick.
Even if there is no hope and everything seems dark, you should never take life too seriously because this world is and has always been a crazy place and there is just no alternative to optimism. Right now I have to look for a new job for the third time in the crisis because all of the places I worked at could no longer offer me a job due to Corona and the government's rigid policies that may or may not be helpful. Still, I know I have to stay focused on being (and becoming more) successful and calm. I can't always do it, though.
I just tell everyone around me that I have good days and bad days right now and to please judge me for what I do and say on the better days. We will all have to apologise to a lot of people after the crisis and negativity is not the best attitude, but certainly right now it's a very common one.
thanks for sharing this phrase about hopeless and not serious, it helps me to accept stupid mistakes that i do almost everyday. i will try to read this book also, thanks 🫂
But the Pandemic or Plandemic - Conspiracy affects the Whole World
dear. The point here is RACISM but, you know what?, I have a son working on your Country Germany. He is Engeenier
Molecular, he says that the people is very NICE with him!!!, they're asking him
to stay in Germany forever🤗, could you
believe that?. He is a Scientist and he is
beautiful my son, he is very very educated and dedicated. He is a very
lovely young, he is American, so respectful American.
That there are many people who like to ''win'' a discussion is not unique to Germany.
I find it easier to disagree with ppl without anyone taking things personally in Germany compared to the US.
It’s very refreshing and interesting
I have heard a similar phrase to that: "Die Lage in Deutschland ist ernst aber nicht hoffnungslos - aber die Lage in Österreich ist hoffnungslos, aber nicht ernst." (the situation in Germany is serious but not hopeless - but the situation in Austria is hopeless but not serious).
How awful. I've been living in Germany for 8 years and one of the main characteristics of German people is unfortunately the lack of tact, sensitivity and empathy. Many people have absolutely no manners. I've been battling with depression for nearly two years now and as a way to get overcome it and open up, I invited someone over and cooked dinner...what I got mostly was a critique of my apartment and questions such as when or if I was going to get the German citizenship. I mean, where is basic human decency and kindness?
Wrong friends
@@ygt2813 i think, like you said, that there are mean people everywhere. I live in latin america and here is a lot of gossip and bad vibes as well as good people but always the bad ones stands up because of their cruelty. Human been, no matter their race, nationality, gender etc have two faces from where they can choose. We, the good ones, just need to bw brave and learn to identify the ones that will not deserve our company.
At least Germans have common sense, honesty and respect for human life. Not like wackos in the Wild West shooting people over an argument about dog sizes.
At least they’re honest. Germans are upfront, if you’re sensitive Deutschland is not for you.
@@martamannenbach964 💯 I love Deutschland. Germans are upfront and honest.
I'm very surprised by the dislikes. Your experience in Germany is totally valid, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! You have the right to live wherever you feel most comfortable and accepted. Hope you're doing well, currently
Well said.
There are no dislikes
Thank You! Sorry for the people with so much Hate in their Hearths. Missing the beauty of life. 🇺🇲❤️🙏
Her experience however, can not be summarized as a sort of generalization, from my honest opinion. There are people that have good experiences in other countrys, and people that don't. Plus, such as she has the right to talk about her experience, and express how she felt, so have people the right to express if they are disagree.
me too - Swedish girl one year in Germany moving back home and will never step an other foot in Germany 💔
aren't all northen europeans like Germans , rude , stoic and cold ?? I'm just curious
🤣😂🤣😂
Wishing you all the best, enjoy that Florida sunshine! ☀️
I relate to so many things you mention in this video, but the Paris version!
It's bad.... and people are trying to ignore it....
I feel like it's everywhere... I was hated and called out solely for my nationality in different countries. It's the first thing that people use to trigger, I feel like.
@@mariaseidi4023 I’m Danish living in Denmark and it’s the same here and I’m even Danish. It’s not killing as many as Covid but mentally it is. So many people that I have had a lot of respect for are gone from my life. Some others became nut jobs anti vaxxers and they are gone too. So many others are hurting a lot and becomes absolute asshats.
@@charisma-hornum-fries Well this is Internet age ...we are pos humanity
I lived in Germany and I agree with everything she said in this video!
It was quite tough... The negativity was too much for me so I'm happy I left
I was born white in the US and I have lived in Germany since 2008. Many, many Germans go out of their way to exclude people who are not in their tribe. I have lost jobs (more than one) in Germany because of this tribal mentality. The question is what steps are needed to join their tribe and if it is even worth it. In daily life I regularly receive comments from native Germans regarding how the US mentality is more optimistic and happy than the pessimistic unhappy German mentality. These same Germans talk about moving out of Germany.
Never met somebody who talks so much bs. Im from Belgium and working in Germany and NEVER EVER had this problems or even know someone who had this.
@@maxmiot9351yeh Belgians are not exactly known for incredible warmth either 😂😂😂
Take good care Haley! Loved watching your videos, very authentic. Keep safe!
It's very refreshing to see you reflective and aware of a lot of things. There's no need to apologize for your decisions to go to florida. You do you and stay mentally healthy and happy. There's enough people who don't do that for themselves...
I'm so sorry, you experienced such negative encounters. But it is refreshing to hear even the ugly side of things. Hope it gets better
Americans are too hyper sensitive we must realize that they have a different culture then ours. Americans can be so needy sometimes. I went their twice and the people are straight forward and down to earth!! Planning to visit again this fall. You can't generalize an entire country for some bad experiences.
As a European, I can confirm there are many racists in Europe. You're not imagining it, or being overdramatic. You are right be disgusted, just like most of us feel disgusted by this kind of people.
It's not the racism of those special groups of people showing extroverted their opinions... Its the "every day" racism of "normal" people upsetting you and, I dont know how to translate properly, makes you a second hand embarrassment. 🫤
I would also mention that for smaller nations, such as Slovenians, it is mostly fear of foreign. Becasuse trough the cousre of histoy, foreigners were never a good sign. All they ever wanted was to conquer and take the land, starting with Romans, Turks, Napoleon, Austro-Hungarians, all up to Nazis and Fasists. This adds alot to disstrust of foreig people. This goes mostly for older generations and hopefully one day soon we will grow out of it. But the Germans have no excuses.
@Stanly Stud nobody says it, because it's not related to the video. There are a lot of racists everywhere, of course.
@@martinapipan2759 Surely we have. We're lazy in leaning languages and, in my opinion, the speech barrier takes it all for us.
If you see people living here with a local accent anyhow will surely not having that much bad experiences... See: th-cam.com/users/shortsnxgBkYT-Y-8?feature=share ;-)
The last years english, spain and french got better and better and lo and behold there are less problems with reserved people (except the really dumb ones).
Currently there's a big thing with russian and mandarin because they are very difficult because you can neither read them nor understand without getting a food in the door.
@Stanly Stud You mean like that? th-cam.com/users/shortssH27W5tGUOc?feature=share
:-D :-D :-D
I have traveled quite a bit. I spent two weeks in Berlin in 2016 and I have never been treated more poorly in my life than I was treated there by people. I’ll never go back to Berlin.
Berlin is not known for being very welcoming, many people there tend to be a bit rough around the edges. Still... I don't want to make excuses for anybody, I am sorry that you were treated poorly.
What happened to you?
In berlin we say: Große Klappe mit Herz
@DerBerliner53
Genau wie bei uns im Ruhrgebiet!
Die verstehen unsere Mentalität wahrscheinlich nicht und legen es gleich als Rassismus aus
Berlin is even considered as very rude by many germans. Direct and right in the face. I LOVE IT. (Yes, I am german, lol)
OMG! Es tut mir sooo leid! 😔 Ich schäme mich dafür was die Frau zu dir gesagt hat.
Ich arbeite noch an einer direkten Antwort. Aber das ist schon mal sehr gut formuliert, aus meiner Sicht!
Schäm dich nicht für die Arschlochigkeit anderer, das bringt nichts außer schlechte Laune. Sei selbst einfach kein Arschloch (manchmal nicht einfach) und schreite nach Möglichkeit ein, wenn du so etwas bemerkst :)
Ich bin so wütend, wenn ich höre, wie unmöglich sich manche Menschen benehmen. Was läuft nur falsch bei denen? 😡
Jetzt lassen wir doch mal die Kirche im Dorf: blöde Leute gibt es überall auf der Welt, in Spanien in Frankreich, in Deutschland und ganz besonders viele in den USA. Zum Beispiel die 82 Millionen Idioten, die Trump gewählt haben.
Wegen einer blöden alten Frau Deutschland zu verlassen zeigt, dass da wohl doch nicht so viel emotionale Bindung vorhanden war.
Amerikaner sind halt generell etwas oberflächlich
@@autoalfred lustig, dass, genau wie bei der alten Dame, deine Stereotype über US-Amerikaner deine Reaktion bestimmen. Erstens sie macht deutlich "that it was the straw that broke the camels back."
Anstatt sofort in die defensive zu gehen, "das machen die anderen doch auch", wäre es vielleicht besser einfach zuzuhören und die Kritik anzunehmen. Als Deutsche oder deutsch-aussehende werden wir nie erleben, was es heißt in Deutschland als nicht deutsch aussehender zu leben. Es steht uns nicht zu, ihre Erlebnisse zu hinterfragen.
Jeder Dunkelhäutige, den ich kenne erzählt mir von Rassismuserfahrungen. Allerdings sagen diese auch, dass Sie in Berlin (zumindest im Südwesten) nicht häufig Rassismus erleben. Trotzdem müssen wir zu hören und es ernst nehmen, wenn davon berichtet wird.
I am usually a talkative person but lm learning to be quiet and respond with smiles or nods when l interact with people here.It’s really helped to maintain my mood because unhappiness and bitterness are super contagious.If you interact a lot with unhappy people it’s hard to not be dragged into the drama and your words misinterpreted even if they know lm not fluent in their language.Being here has been difficult but l have really learnt how to be independent and learning that my happiness is my responsibility and only mine.
She very easily could've simply walked around the elderly woman but she chose the confrontation. I'm glad the old woman stood her ground and gave her a piece of her mind. This girls story is fiction and didn't happen as she's relayed here. Old people don't seek out conflict, but young people do.
Sad but true! I‘m going through the same thing.
I was planning to take my masters in Germany but I'm now having second thoughts. I've never experienced racism, but I'll probably experience it there since I'm asian.
I can relate
Same here 🙋
Been here for nine months. Trying to find the good in Germans daily, but boy is it difficult! Boy do I have stories, too. Praying that what I'm experiencing does not rub off on me!!!
I so totally agree with you, 10 years in germany....cant wait to leave it for good!
I appreciate your strength to speak out so much! Big big role model to me😍! Wishing you a loooot of positive vibes and fun with your family ❤️
Those German Karens. 🤦♂️ Totally get you and I agree. Germans in general are not in a good vibe now. The winter has been far too long and that along with the pandemic has definitely pushed some people to the dark side. Still, I'm positive about the next few months. ❤️
I am betting on June being a good month. All the news I have read from the government regarding restrictions has been positive...
@@HayleyAlexis and Euro! There will be Euro Cup, so Germans have to become more positive 😁 Hope you will recharge, have a lot of quality time with your family and come back to sunny, positive, happy Germany with Biergartens and all that stuff !
She's not just a Karen, she's a Confederate flag waving, Trump voting Karen. (If she were an American)
winter can never be too long lol I'm a winter person, sorry
@@MyvIsLove2 I prefer autumn. Still warm enough for open windows all day but no longer brain-slowingly hot.
I’m really sorry to hear about your negative experiences. I hope things will work out for you back home.
Leaving germany as soon as i can. People are so evil here. Everything is money. It got so bad to a point where a ‚Cent’ is more important than a human being in here.
Ye... u see, when so many ppl are "evil" towards you, it might be that the problem is not every1 else but u :o.
That’s most places in the world now unfortunately. At least the big cities.
When you say everything is money, what do you mean exactly? I'm german and I don't really see it that way (also haven't noticed it in my environment)
Yes
All this european tolerance is just a lie
I felt more tolerance in UAE or Qatar than in EU
@@daisyd3w3491Germans are very miserly and miserable people.
Might be something to do with that somebody thought that he owes them one cent. And then they were disrespectful to him because of that.
You are absoloutly right with the negativity in germany and I am so sorry for you that this happened to you with that lady... hope you have a great time in florida. Grüße aus Deutschland :)
The problem is also that the whole country is devided. Friends and Families are going a part because of different opinions about covid 19. That's a big psychological burden many people carry on their shoulders. Still not a reason to insult you. Sorry about that
I noticed this too. I have witnessed it firsthand and it is so crazy how split everyone is... Like I said...it reminds me of the USA... Left vs Right.... and no middle ground
@@HayleyAlexis Yeah. In this regard we imitate America, too. We imitate the good, we imitate the bad. That's just how it is. 🤷
that was a totally normal winter! not particularily cold, wet or long! and you should have stayed inside!
hmmm... I lived in Germany before covid and my experience wasn't different than hers...
@Tagedieb 👍👍 Well said!! That's the point!!
I'm sad to hear you experienced that. I hope you are a little happier now :)
Thank you so much for making this video. You helped me to realise that I am happy where I currently live. So grateful 😊
Germans are much more critical of others, compassion is not their forte. Believe me, I have dealt with it for years.
My family dealt with it for years in Auschwitz. Trust me I know lol 🤣
This often depends pretty much on the area in germany. Some areas I wouldn't want to visit, although I am german.
@@M1NDCR4WL3R
Can you help foreigners unfamiliar with Germany by listing areas you would not want to visit?
@@karllarsen8797 Karens like the one Haley describes here can be found basically everywhere in Germany (I suspect it's not much different in America). Even as a native German, I occasionally encounter such things (okay, not the rants). I've also witnessed a man on a crowded bus pushing away a woman with a pram and swearing at her because of the colour of her skin.
Yes, there are some places in Germany where I wouldn't necessarily walk around alone... and certainly not recommend it to anyone of colour. But even that doesn't mean that something happens there all the time.
Supposedly we Berliners are the most tolerant - but even there I'm not so sure. If you want to go on holiday in Germany, you shouldn't let that put you off. You will find friendly people everywhere. The risk of being mobbed is relatively low (as long as you don't throw your rubbish into nature). But if you live here, sooner or later such an incident will happen.
I have adopted a tactic that has worked quite well in such cases. There is a song by the Berlin band Die Ärzte that is very well known all over Germany. The song is called "Schrei nach Liebe" (Cry for Love) and is itself a rant against the neo-Nazis. A main part of the chorus is the word "Arschloch" (I think you don't need a translation on that). In the case on the bus, I only started whistling softly the first bars ... After the second stop, half the bus sang along loudly and the guy got off. I don't know if he was ashamed - but it just felt good.
So the question is, what do you want to do?
Ok, an expert speaks, thanks for the expertise.
Anyone who always grapples with bad thoughts ultimately always thinks badly.
Oh hayley, you really gave me some strength through this video. I moved from Germany to Sweden last year but I had to return to Germany around Christmas due to the pandemic and have been here since. During these months here I have been getting so sad, hopeless and fearful.. I am going back to Sweden tomorrow and I am just so anxious, I haven’t slept in a few days, couldn’t eat, my stomach has been hurting and I’ve been crying and being sad because I feel this immense fear of going there for some reason because I feel like I can’t handle things getting even worse than this and here I at least have my family and my dog. This gave me hope that this anxiety might have come from the general anxiety and depression level in Germany right now (because I remember that I haven’t felt like this at all before Christmas) and that things might look way brighter once I am there again
Thanks for sharing this video, I hope you will get a lot of positive energy in Florida!
Love, Johanna
I go trough the same thing at the moment!! Exactly since Christmas when the lockdown started in Germany I started to feel like this. You are not alone in this🤗 send you all the good vibes and try to remember that everything in life In temporary🌸
Teodora Birda thanks teodora❤️
Hope it will feel better when you get here :)
I live here now (Frankfurt), and I agree with you. People... gosh.... I am from Miami, sorry you had to go through all that!
Hayley, you are great. I really agree with what you are saying! Thank you for telling the truth.
Thank you for speaking up about this. I absolutely feel the same about the current atmosphere in Germany. So mentally straining.
and I have even fear to speak about it . she lives in Munich. In small cities are much more teribble.
@@raxiutrw6464 you are pissed of course if goverment dont give a shit about the country and fool you around and now that ronna hoax bullshit many lose their jobs.. what you expect? can you be happy in this situration?
@@hyenalaughingmatter8103 of course not . I love this country with heart but its not related to 2020 . Im here from 2017 . 😊
What would you feel when your professor attack you ? Would you be happy ? We need a safe place to study and then leave . They treat students like a shit. So we leave the country . Germans will be alone with refugee . Thats the future . I see this .... 😔
@@raxiutrw6464 I wonder how a Syrian village would treat a German, if they decided to move in 300 Germans and start their new lives. How many would have trouble locating their heads in a month? You're a foreigner. If you don't like it, leave and go some place else.
@@austntexan abolutely you have right . But Germans are very different and have learned about the human right and other countries a lot . They are more educated. They have learned about history. But entrance of too many people in a same time was the biggest fault of merkel which no one can forgive
Sometimes, a change of scenery is good for the soul. Here in the U.S. we've had our own set of problems over the past year + especially. Be glad, you haven't been around for that. It was incredibly challenging and stressful. The vitriol and condescension was at an all time high. I think, the whole planet is going bonkers.
It's the reason me - I'm German - and my Indian husband don't even consider moving to Germany. I have some friends who got a bit offended when I told them the reason for us continuing to staying in India. They get very defensive saying 'But most people are not racist.' And I tell them, true, most people we know personally aren't - cause else I wouldn't be associating with them - but that doesn't help if every single day in day-to-day life you run into at least a dozen instances of microaggressions, 'othering' or outright racism. It begins with the being stared at, continues over the condescending tone some people adopt when talking to someone of different skin color - the assumption being the POC should be 'grateful' to be allowed to be there, and many media-fueled ignorant assumptions about my husband's home country - and ends with outright random slurs. It doesn't help that the people we know closely are not like that, if you're exposed to this kind of stuff on a daily, it just slowly grinds away at you.
And frankly, even people we do know initially had a very hard time talking to my husband as a person and not just as a foreigner. The strong in-/outgroup thinking in German culture just seems to make it very hard for many people to interact with POC as people and not as a cardboard standup of the stereotype in their head. It takes time for people to warm up and shed their insecurity in front of the perceived 'other', but by that time you on the other side already heard so many weird borderline offensive things from them, it's hard to come around at that point.
Frankly, I just refuse to have my husband have to deal with this on a daily. He's a highly educated entrepreneur who has been supporting both of us for 10 years and counting. I do work, but whatever I earn is negligible to what he brings to the table. He's ambitious, driven, smart, and innovative, and my admiration of those traits made me fall in love with him. I bristle with rage at the very thought of random people looking down on him due to his skin color. And we make these kinds of experiences basically every time we come to visit my parents. We try to laugh it off. But every single time we just know all the more, yeah, that's not the place to live for us. And my parents are living in a big city, mind.
All of this makes me sad and ashamed, especially as I've felt nothing but welcome in India in a decade of living here, even when I did nothing to deserve it. People are just so happy to learn I like it here and want to stay here. That's enough justification for them for my presence here.
If we should ever move internationally we only consider countries with a strong immigration culture (US, UK, Canada or maybe Australia) or Southern European countries like Spain, Portugal or Italy (neither of which gave us a bad but a more humane vibe when visiting).
And yeah, generally just the negative vibe, that eternal omnipresent "Geht nicht."-attitude from small mundane things to major life-changing bureaucratic issues. It's so contrary to our lifestyle, we just can't with it.
Sorry but this is true, I'm living already 30 Years in Germany and I'm still for them an immegrant and I experienced a lot cases like you. They are the unfriendliest people in the world. And that is true!!! Really!!
I am Mexican and did the same myself. I am a permanent resident in the country and not planning on moving but this last winter was INTENSE. I was feeling so depressed and anxious. Just came back from
Mexico after staying there for 3 months. Best decision ever. The environment in Germany at the moment is quite toxic. I still
love the country tho.
As a german i think it is frightening whats going on right now. I think a lot of this has to do with the lockdown. Since november nearly everything is closed. Many people lost their job. The winter was long and hard. People are getting more and more unfriendly to each other. I hope it will change soon.
I am Mexican as well, I kinda wanna do the same as well! I have to work though... I wish I could stay 2 months in 🇲🇽
Canadian in Germany and I really understand. However I'm from Ontario and they just went into their 3rd lockdown so I don't think going back would've been the best idea.
I think, the problem here is just a “very loud” minority of ignorant and hateful people. Unfortunately, few speak up against them to not get themselves into trouble. This is really sad.
@@muadrico we speak up. Wir sind mehr. But not just behind a screen. Speaking up when you see somebody being treated like that, that's everybody's duty. In Germany, in the U.S., everywhere.
I’m in Germany right now and I’m READY to go. It’s been so hard and depressing lately. I’ve been here almost 3 years and haven’t seen my family since I’ve been here. I’ve enjoyed Germany but it’s time for a change.
Yeah I felt like if I stayed any longer I might start disliking Germany and I don't want that to happen. Sometimes time away helps you see things in a new light
@@HayleyAlexis Thank you. These are the words I needed to hear.💞
wish u all the luck!
Yes I’ve been here since 2017 , I leave in a few days ! Ready to go for sure !
Me too
Sometimes you need a fresh start and a change. Sometimes that means that you have to change your accommodations, city, even nation. Man muss seine Zelte abbrechen. Good luck, viel Glück for your new start.
I am an Asian artist and live in Germany. It's very difficult to be accepted here. When talking to them, for example some artists or people who work for the gallery, they are nice, but sometimes what they was talking with me. I felt that they still look down on me. So I feel more comfortable doing art online for people from somewhere who are really interested in my art.
must be horrible, God created men equally and he loves you , don't forget
Hayley, don't let all this hatred bring you down. We all love you - OK, it may not help you in those situations. But you are in our hearts
You mean her hatred against Germans?
Okay, now i'm scared!... I'm black and have been here for just 4 months... Its a different experience for me so far. I hope I'd keep being this lucky
Ok, your skin tonne is diferrent but at the end of the day all we are human beings so dont be scared , enjoy the trip , good luck
@@rumold9999 👏👏👏
I'm a black women in Germany live here 7 yrs and I agree with her I hate it here..the culture us lifeless ...I rather be poor and happy than have riches and miserable. the people here are so angry..I started walking around angry because of it..its so much more.
@@ChildofGod52 Honest question. Then why did you stay for 7 years? Whats helds you from just leaving? I cant agree to anything you say though :D The culture is full of life I think there are few countries with more fests and celebrations. The people are not angry i think. If you dont like it here there is no reason to stay though :) Good luck in the future :O
@@sumimaind thank you for your comment..I was really going to respond to his message ..but then i thought why!! its makes no sense. any expat living here especially from mixed race can agree to what i said.. and he may comes across pretty harsh...and it doesn't means every German is like that but the majority is...
Case of the grass looks greener on the other side ! Many ex pats in many county's have similar experiences! Thank you !
The stares are real girl. Specially in the smaller towns. I didn’t feel uncomfortable in bigger cities but wow they definitely let you know you’re an outsider in the smaller towns and villages .
@@MarkusPape France and England are international multi culture places ,Germany is a single mono culture and narrow minded race that can't integrate in global world ,and they know it , thank god they felt pain in WW2 when bombed by US and its allies.
It’s insane because I literally just moved back to Florida from Spain for the same reason, things got so ugly there as well! I hope you’re feeling better and happier now, that’s the most important thing.
Omg!!! I am a south Asian living in germany since 4yrs, I have experienced some of the similar situation u have mentioned in the video😖 Even I felt the same,Germany has so much negativity n negative energy , people are rude for no reason, which is making me more depressed !!! I thought it’s only me who is feeling so until I saw this video!!! I can totally relate to the instances u have faced😔These 4 years of my stay in Germany has been the lowest point in my life so far I can say!!! I spoke to my husband about how I feel staying here, we are planning to move to someother country soon once the pandemic gets better✌🏻
Same here, a South Asian. I feel people have become overtly racist and aggressive in the last one year.
Same here!
hey,which country ru gys looking to move?
@@sumimaind I too will be moving out soon...
@@sumimaind even at my workplace if I ask a simple question or questions related to the topic that I am not aware of ,the reply I get is so rude and blunt as if I have committed a sin. Its so depressing here. Despite of all the modern facilities and technology ,I feel totally empty. I already made up my mind that I will be leaving this country .
Wow, that certainly sounds like a bad experience. I had the same fear before moving to Australia earlier this year. I am doing a nursing degree and had to come to campus but I was really anxious because it just seemed the world hate the Chinese, I was really scared of getting attacked by people. But after my arrival and quarantine, everyone at school and the community was just so friendly and positive,and I'm the only nonwhite student in my class. I can easily strike up a conversation with local people. I gradually to feel like Australian though I know I probably don't look like one in some people's opinion. But I love my new country and cannot wait to finish my degree soon and start to combat the pandemic! Hope your situation improves.
Happy for you.❤
As an Australian, I hope this is still true and I hope you're enjoying your time here!!
@@biggiedii4889 oh, 1 year ago I wrote this comment, wow. Thanks for the message, I am still enjoying life in Aus, but yeah, there certainly has been racist moments I have encountered. Had a patient telling me "I am taking over this country and people like me are coming to Australia like a plague" after I gave him a sandwich, and there is another Asian doctor standing near us, we looked at each other and said nothing cos we knew people like him won't accept any logics and senses. But really racism is not unique to Australia or just any particular country, and it is not just a white people's problem, I have seen other migrants expressing negative comments on the Aboriginal people too, it is a universal problem. I am just glad I don't and won't have kids. Honestly don't think it's going to be a nice world in the future. But still overall my life has been good in Australia.
@@Lyvice You're right about this being a universal problem. There is so much anti immigrant sentiment in South Africa and even black people in Germany will look down on those without a European passport even if their parents were immigrants too (can you imagine, because of a piece of paper). I'm also thinking of being childfree. I'm disillusioned with capitalism. Someone has to be at the bottom and another at the top in order for it to function and too many people would rather fight to be the top dog instead of refusing to participate and think of something more fair and sustainable.
Hi sis. I am there now and can relate to all you said. I'm an African and pray nothing takes me outside daily but it's impossible. Most Germans are highly irrational & mean. Even at the hospitals l still see worse situation and pray nothing takes me there again....Although Germany is a good country🙇
Germany does a really good job at letting you know you don't belong there. Some days I am shocked with how people treat me in Germany. Girl I am right there with you!! Coming home to America for a visit REALLY SOON! Stay strong!!!
Im natural born german and i got every time tretted like i didnt belong to germany, your not alone
Well said
Actually, I can see all your points. They are all very good and I understand why you returned home. I in your place would have done the very same. I just hope that you have some nice memories of germany too and will return some day in better times.
Hello my beautiful friend good evening how are you doing?
Thank you for posting this! I am currently visiting Germany and I can detect these same issues too. Some people are very rude and no matter how friendly you are, they don't respond friendly. I wish the best for you and let's hope that it gets better soon in Germany!
As a Zimbabwe an living in NRW Germany for many years I've thankfully experienced barely any racism, but working at German companies is a special kind of challenge 😉 it helps to have international friends and work at an international company.
The environment you choose has a big impact. If you choose a traditional, "dusty" company with focus on the German market it will be quite different from a company with a more international focus. Seems you did everything right!
Have you ever experienced racism?
Old people are the problem. Even i got cold and rude response by my neighbour
@@vikas274 nope, honestly not. Not even when I mistakenly hiked into a hunting club or Schützenverein as they were plucking their pheasants on a remote forest area. They helped me get back to the trail.
@@vikas274 I see it as a personal challenge to win them over, and waiting for pensions, they have a right to be grumpy haha
Es tut mir sehr leid, dass du so eine schlechte Erfahrung machen musstest. Fühl dich mal ganz fest gedrückt und ich wünsche dir alles Gute. Du bist eine so liebe Person und ich liebe deine Art.
@@HayleyAlexis Als Amerikanerin hat man zum Glück Optionen und wenn’s einem irgendwo nicht gefällt, dann geht man eben woanders hin.
@@mikeh.7025 Kann man doch als Deutsche(r) auch.
@@crose6102 Hier geht’s aber gerade um Amerikaner
@@sumimaind Alle, ja ? Manchmal liegt's auch an einem selbst.
As a native german I‘m ashamed for those peoples behavior and it‘s making me so angry that it‘s just not that commun around here to show stragers kindness. And its making me sad that tose are the ones to represent us in such a bad way. I can just hope for it to get better and please try not to let them bring you down.
Best whishes from NRW
This girl likely walked into the elderly woman's water-stream, fully expecting that she was going to stop spraying, rather than risk getting her wet. Both my grandparents are German and exactly like this old woman. This girl's entitled attitude permeates her generation. Good on the elderly woman for standing her ground. Germany is her country, not this entitled foreigner's. I would bet money that the retelling here on TH-cam will differ by ~180degrees from what actually went down. If it was that bad, we'd be watching an iPhone video of it. She actually said the old woman was harassing her? This woman was minding her business and couldn't be bothered to stop what she was doing. So freaking what? The girl should've simply walked around her. All of this would've been avoided. A Millennial is not going to impart some grand wisdom/lesson on a woman who's seen 83 years of living. The arrogance of this brat is astounding. If you want to see what happens to a culture when you make too many concessions, come to the USA and spend some real time here. We are living in managed decline in the USA.
@@austntexan Yeah, good thing thar the elderly woman called her the n-word and said racist things. So glad, you're defending that behavior.......
@@austntexan that's exactly why people have negative attitude about German
@@austntexan So by your analogy if I park my car and suddenly a person is walking behind my car I should just kill that person, since I am only minding my own business of parking my car, instead of waiting like 10 seconds to pass and then finish my parking? This is not entitlement, this is common sense. We don't know why the person is not focused or maybe and he/she it's stressed or is in a hurry. Is it so hard for 10 seconds of your unimportant life to just stop a stupid hose so that person it's not wet? Or maybe idk turn around and wet other things? That old lady did it just to see her reaction and yeah maybe even a n@zi. Maybe that old fag sat as a child to get an autograph from her beloved leader in the 30s.
@@austntexan i read a comment that went like : "Americans should have fed you to the soviets and Israelis "
That's why I left Germany a long time ago. As a native born German I know my people very well and it's not only the pandamic. I don't want to go further in it. But I am an American citizen now an I'm glad about it.
Wait till you hear the politics
And how dumb the people are 😂😂😂😂
I also live in Germany but sadly cant leave :(
@@arminoprivato why
Welcome to the civilized world, but please don't bring any of your German attitude or customs with you.
I ran across this somehow, and your experience absolutely resonates with all people of color in germany. I am American or Arab background married to a German. There is routine aggression and condescension directed at people of color in Germany, but Germans will deny it exists. It is maddening but we all experience it. I've learned to just ignore anyone who is rude and aggressive toward me. I literally ignore them as they try to discipline me and it makes them even more mad. I get satisfaction out of seeing Germans get upset that their aggressive disciplining isn't working. Nothing drives them crazier. Take care.
The issue is much more complex tho, there are many instances of unreasonable prejudice but must german are extremely open minded towards foreigners. Remember the refugee crisis and how must Germans gladly welcomed people. This attitude has changed however, in many cases because of great tragedies that accrued in Germany and it’s neighbours. If you’re a foreigner in any country you have it tough because you are a representative of your country, culture and community. That is the same for everyone. As unreasonable as prejudice is in most cases, I can’t blame many Germans for having become sceptical towards people with seemingly Arabic or Muslim background. You might call me racist for this, but I myself know about the irrationality of this. But at the end, it’s just a natural Defense mechanism and I can’t blame people for judging a group that is not known well to them that they only hear and see terrible crimes from. Most people are decent, humans are social after all. But as a social species we try to protect our own, unfortunately traits like racism evolve from that too. I can’t blame someone for being sceptical about Muslims when you read that a French teacher was beheaded with a kitchen knife on the street simply for teaching kids about religious caricatures (which included one about Mohammed).
Stuff like that sticks with people, and I won’t blame them for it. I know better fortunately, I have travelled much and talked much and I choose my friends based on the people they are. Although a similar circle will be inevitable considering that unfortunately chilenos or Turks don’t speak german.
@@venkyuganda bs its not, its the strongest economy in Europe... every "prediction" that the conflict would affect it, were wrong.
i dont know how you can stay so calm while they discipline you. i get frequently angry. maybe ill give it a try to laugh as loud as I can.
@@musiccer7446 this has nothing to do with the refugee crisis. ppl were mean before corona and before the refugee crisis.
you guys always find an excuse for being evil.
@@bilalhamurabi3362 How often does this "disciplining" happen? Is it mostly at work or it's just everywhere?
I've heard several stories from my friends in the US encountering a lot of entitled and angry people and taking it out on vulnerable groups. They were talking about the same issues: devisiveness, frustration etc I think it is a global issue but every culture handles it a little differently. I understand that it's easier to deal with when the coping mechanisms are part of a culture you grew up with and that's easier to navigate. also, as you mentioned, you are not an immigrant there and in a better position to defend yourself. And you have your family as a resource. I am so sorry you had to experience this at all being in a vulnerable position.
Hi Sweetie, I am German living in Florida for 42 years now. I married a GI. I remember one of the trips back “home” where we just landed in Frankfurt. I had a stroller and a 1 year old. Stressful flight etc. etc. and I waited for someone to let me into the escalator line. No one did so I had to push my way in and I said in German real loud “I know I am back in Germany because everyone is so rude”. My husband was embarrassed but it was true. People just looked at me. I am sure they would have told me to go back where I came from if I had an accent. That was 38 years ago. Nothing seems to have changed. I understand the lock down and weather. The weather can surely get to you over there. I am not in Florida for the weather, never have been. The heat and hurricanes get to me, but you try to grow where you are planted. Love your videos and honesty. Wish you all the best. Who is Thiesi? P. S. My Granddaughter is mixed and my daughter and she have been living with us for 3 years now. She is beautiful. I love her so.
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I'm so so sorry that this happened to you. I'm German myself and you're absolutely right. The pandemic has brought out the worst in people. I'm so sorry!
Das war doch immer so.
das ist nicht wegen der Pandemie, die arme war nur 5 wochen hier und sie kennt nicht die Deutsche und wie verklemmt und zurückhaltend sind, dass sie einfach Hass gegen AUSLÄNDER oder auch mit einander entwickeln, die Deutsche sind halt so von Natur her und das ist die traurige Wahrheit
No, Germans have always been like that. And they're never going to change. They've always been rude and unwelcoming. That's just the country. Not even some Germans want to still live here.
@@missmichellevp Was für eine scheiße du laberst, wenn du Selbsthass hast, lass es für dich sein und mach uns Deutsche nicht fertig, was ein Troll, übrigens, ich habe auch mit nicht deutschen schlechte Erfahrung gemacht, sind wohl auch alle unhöflich...
@@misterplayer7250 Sie hat aber Recht, du Wurst!
Thanks for sharing the experience. I feel sorry for what you've been through. I see you as a BEAUTIFUL lady. I was planning a trip to Germany and hesitate to continue now. Do you think these negative experiences are area related? Or overall across Germany, similar racism occurs?
Being Polish it happened to me a lot that people assumed or expressed that I either came to clean in Germany or don’t have money which was very frustrating. I was getting very annoyed because I was completing my phd at that point. I was so happy to leave, it is for sure not everyone but these exceptions can make this experience of living abroad unpleasant.
I know many Poles who live here, built a company here, bought a house and sent their children to German schools.
@@caciliawhy5195 oh is that so ? what facts do you support your thesis with?
@@caciliawhy5195 That is so bullshit.
Sry but if these small incidents bring you to prefer living in a dictatorship that prohibited abortion, hates immigrants etc etc you are nuts
@@slidenapps following the political developments I cannot see that Poland is on the way to open minded, tolerant society...I am sorry for the smart polish people, who have to emigrate again for freedom issues. It reminds me of those times before the wall fall down...
Ich hab aktuell echt das Gefühl die Leute hier drehen komplett durch. Es tut mir sehr leid für dich, dass du solche schlimmen Dinge erleben musstest. :( erhol dich gut in Florida und ich hoffe du gibst Deutschland nicht auf. ❤️
@@MCoos-dw9yr video ned gesehen oder ned verstanden?
@@MCoos-dw9yr Lebst Du in Florida?
@@MCoos-dw9yr hier wird nicht soviel berichtet. Wenn etwas passiert wird es heruntergespielt oder man verschließt die Ohren und Augen. Was du machst ist nämlich genau das Problem. Man zeigt aufs angeblich so rassistische Amerika statt vor der eigenen Tür zu kehren. Genau wie George Floyds tot soviel Aufmerksamkeit hier erregt hat obwohl es hier einen Attentat zur gleichen Zeit auf deutsche mit Migrationshintergrund in Hanau gab. Was in den USA passiert hat dich nicht zu interessieren. Setzt dich mit dem Rassismus hier auseinander.
@@MCoos-dw9yr mach dir Gedanken um den Osten, wo es no Go Areas und man sich mit nicht deutschen Aussehen nicht hintrauen kann statt die Gedanken um Florida zu machen
@@MCoos-dw9yr und das sagt ein Ossi. Ich lach mich tot. Wohl noch nie aus deiner Plattenbausiedlung rausgekommen oder?
I’ve spent more than a year living in Berlin but I don’t have any German friend except two guys in their early 20s who treated me very well. Btw, I’m a brown guy from India. I think the teenagers and people in their early 20s in multicultural places like Berlin are more tolerant and friendly towards immigrants than someone over 30.
Well, your friend situation probably would not be any different for the most German looking guy ever. Most form their circle of friends in their childhood/school/university time and maybe in sport clubs later in life. Associating in private with work colleagues for example may happen, but is not all that usual. (A distinct cultural trait is the strong separation of work/official life and private life and many people actively try keep it apart. (like not adding work colleagues to their social media or giving them their phone number as a matter of principle.) ) In all the sports clubs I personally have been, for example, every member of any 'colour' or backround was welcomed with open arms. That in itself is no guarantee for making friends, but it is much more likely if you get to know people in their 'private realm', not the 'business realm'.
Adding to that, as colourful as Berlin is, it still is a big city. People can go through all their life there without ever knowing their neighbors name. Maybe a good place to meet new people, but much less a good place to actually get to know people. Berlin is also infamous for it's rude inhabitants all over Germany. I have heard the younger generations are not that bad, but I for sure don't care to go there to find out. ^^
This woman is a Karen and likely walked into the woman's water, expecting that she's stop and not get her wet. I'm an American but my entire family are German and this is exactly how they act...they do not give an inch. There are cultural rules that should be followed, it doesn't matter that she's a foreigner. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. If the woman doesn't stop spraying water in the area she wants to walk, her response should always be to walk around the local and respect her boundaries. Behaving the way she did only confirmed the old woman's suspicions...that this foreigner doesn't respect Germans and will force them to do what she wants. Every other country (India, Pakistan, China, Japan, Korea) is allowed to demand foreignors comply with their societal norms...except when people come to Western Europe. The European countries, for some reason, are expected to create gov't funded schools in the language of the imports and make exceptions to promote a foreign culture in their country. This needs to stop. I'm glad she left Germany. She clearly doesn't belong there.
@@austntexan Sprichst du noch deutsch?
I am a 40 years old German and I have more friends from India, , Greece and Netherlands than native Germans :-)
It’s purely based on my personal experience so far in Germany, but it might change in future. May be due to the reason that I’m not that socially active since last year because of Corona restrictions and I didn’t get chance to meet new people.
Trust me it's not just during the lockdown I had the worst experience with germans in the frankfurt airport in 2018 during my transit to USA now I understand because I'm brown
I am so sorry what happened to you. I am living and working in Gemany. My family lives in Greece and my other half in Cyprus. Last months were terrible in Germany especially at work. My customers know that we have a pandemic and less stock and every day I received angry phone calls and mails. I was sitting every day in my home office with stomach and head ache. Nobody around had the time to listen to me and give me some advise. So I listened every day to my music, did some gym etc. but this didn't help that much. Few weeks ago I've decided to make a small break and to go Cyprus. I've had to do a lot of paper work, expensive covid test etc. and Germans around me were like: how dare you travelling during corona and you will harm the environment by taking a plane. It was the best decision ever. I feel like a human right now... PS: the lockdown here is much harder then in Germany and people still behave like human.
I can understand how you feel as a business owner in Germany (assuming you are one since you said customers). People don't seem to have any regard that there is a human being on the other side, and that not everyone can be perfectly punctual and on time, and have whatever they want in stock at all times.
I am American Indian, and my fiancé is native German and has his own business too, and if it's some consolation, Germans are rude to him as well.
It's a good thing you took the break and headed over to Cyprus. Lockdown in Germany sounds like a nightmare. I was so grateful to be home in California where the sun shines at least.
Yes, 6 month of lockdown, bad weather and unfriendly people. hard to get used to it. :-/
I am fine with everything BUT the lockdown
6 months? It has been one year in my city and in the neighbour areas. However , I'm very sorry for you bad experiences in Germany these days.
@@HayleyAlexis If there ever had been an actual lockdown in Germany, this thing would be over since probably January 2021. Of course, politicians do stupid bullshit to line their own pockets. Fun times to live in certainly. ;-)
Oh and BTW as a native german guy, I also thought about leaving this country behind for good. Maybe it's just the suburb / ghetto I live in, who knows..
Thanks for your always interesting videos.
@@sumimaind You haven't been here during the pandemic. There never really was an actual lockdown, the best we did was in March/April 2020.
Regardless: If you think the people were rude in 2008, you really don't want to know how they are in 2020/2021. :-)
Doesn't excuse the racism, tho.
I lived in Germany for 15 years due that I was married to a German and we have kids, I wasn’t able to leave the country. Thanks God my kids are adults and that the nightmare of living there is over.
Where do you come from?
Where did you go?
@@Mohan778 from Mexico City and from Chicago, IL
@@hugh8090 thanks for asking, I moved to Switzerland, and I am so glad living in here.
@claudia8163 that's great, Claudia. I'm happy you are in a better place now, location and mentally speaking.
My mother is German. Born in the former East Germany and she isn't the biggest fan of her own Volk.
Most of the germans I've met here in the UK have been really nice people though. Perhaps the good ones get away
I am sorry no one believed your experiences..I am very white American and was treated very badly in Europe multiple times especially Germany..and I am a very friendly person. (Years before covid) I have seen others share bad experiences in Europe online or just saying many Europeans are cold/unfriendly only to get gaslit by a ton of people! What is people's problem..I'm afraid to visit Germany again, even though some were sweet.
This is so sad to hear because I love Germany, but I have to say I did experience some racism being there on vacation as a brown skinned Latina as well. I don’t think it will prevent me from going back though, hopefully in the future people are in a better headspace
What kind of experience?
@Tagedieb more colorful in what sense??
@Tagedieb "An even more colorful Germany"? Great, let's create more societal tension, good idea!
@Tagedieb But following your logic I could justify any wrong doings as "oh but that happens in other countries too.. I feel like in Germany people say that usually when they don't want to admit that there's a serious issue with racism in this country. It's time to acknowledge the issue and stop using excuses to minimize the racism that happens there.
@@sumimaind Germans have lived there for thousands of years and it’s their country.they built a well run beautiful country. People move there for that reason and then complain about rudeness. Airplanes fly both ways.
Actually the entire planet has turned rude, nasty, negative and violent.
its like a Mosh-Pit struggle!
and narcissist.
No it hasn’t.
Not true! Where I am living people are not nasty, negative and rude. In Germany on the other hand.....
With a name like Sunny Sunshine you need to be more optimistic!😂
I was also considering going back to Germany but yeah you remind me why I left back then. Thank you, you enlightened me😅