Vietnam has absolutely no connection with China in any way. Confucianism, the Spring Festival, Mid-Autumn Festival, and the lunar calendar-Vietnamese people should avoid using these, as Chinese people and Southeast Asians are different. Vietnamese people are Southeast Asians and belong to the Southeast Asian cultural sphere.
@@pts9553 what a weird take. Chinese culture is an integral part of Vietnamese culture, regardless of your views on geopolitics. It's absurd to deny it. What even is "southeast Asian" culture? Going by your logic, the peoples of Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia ought to toss away their deeply ingrained islamic influence, which is more foreign to this part of the world and has been introduced for a shorter period of time than Chinese culture has been to Vietnam
@@eccentrlcpenguin it is up to the Vietnamese to decide if they wish to discard away aspects of Chinese (Han) culture. I've been to Vietnam many times and they are more than happy to retain it. You don't get to shoehorn your bigoted prejudices into their discourse by dictating what elements of other people's culture they wish to retain or discard, notwithstanding that these elements may have been "foreign" in origin (and even then, the notion of "foreignness" is open to heavy debate).
@@eccentrlcpenguin bro thinks han culture = chinese culture. total missing hakka, tonkienese, fuchou, min , yue (viet), dai, Yi, Zhuang, Zhang. Study more before you pull your *strawman* card to any argument. Dai is associated deeply with thai, Yue which originates from southern china before Qin empire expands and colonizes it, in which the majority of them moved south to modern vietnam and clashed with past champasak , cambodia and other tribes. I urge you to study more on SEA region and lets discuss further
This is hands down one of the best TH-cam channels around. Your team makes fantastic videos, thank you all so much for the well researched and highly educational videos!
Not even ASEAN supports the Philippines' claims. They go far beyond the UNCLOS EEZs, and the Philippines keeps trying to beach old warships to attempt to claim new territory.
My only take on the whole mess is that looking at the eight-nine-ten-eleven dash line, it is ridiculous to expect anyone else to accept them owning so much ocean so far from their coast and so close to so many other countries' coasts. It would be like the US claiming to own the Gulf of Mexico, any northern European country claiming to own the entire Baltic Sea, or any Mediterranean country claiming to own the entire Mediterranean.
@@user-tr1zj It's not an inland sea either. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what difference the definition makes to the eight-nine-ten-eleven dash line's greed.
Prime Minister Pham Van Dong's dispatch did not agree that Hoang Sa and Truong Sa belonged to China, only saying that Vietnam respected the 12-nautical mile sea area that China claimed sovereignty over. The dispatch did not mention Hoang Sa and Truong Sa, China was very vague when talking about them.
North Vietnam already agreed to recognize Paracel and Spratly Islands as Chinese in exchange for help in the Vietnam War but after North Vietnam won and unified Vietnam, they went back on their word and restarted their claim to those islands
@@nvkhoi1 At that time, Hoang Sa was administered by South Vietnam (the puppet Saigon government established by the United States) because it was below the 17th parallel. North Vietnam protested but could do nothing because it was at war with South Vietnam and the United States and the North Vietnamese navy was not strong enough.
In my humble opion the islands are still Spanish, which would be the best option anways, as we know that the Spanish are great in developing inslands to tourist paradises (Canaries (Gran Canaria, Teneriffe), Balears (Mallorca, Ibiza.)) Go Spain!
No. Indonesia already have clear defined border agreement including maritime Border with Australia and Papua Nugini. I suggest your country do the same and have clear border agreement with your neighbour
When China owns that sea area, other countries may not have been established yet, and even if they are established, they will still be vassal states of China!
@@FrozenDrone12 no threat. Philippines maritime Border already agreement. Small Malaysia can't do anything in Ambalat againts huge Indonesian military. Indonesian already doing some oil projects there by Pertamina Hulu Energi (PHE) East Ambalat
Hey, your video is informative and thorough but there is one misleading point that I need to clarify and fix. The official statement of Pham Van Dong, the prime minister of North Vietnam at that time, only agreed on the 12 nautical miles of territorial waters extending from the coastline of mainland China (today it is called EEZ) and DID NOT recognise anything about the sovereignty of over the Spratly islands and Paracel Islands. It is clear that the distance from Paracel archipelago to Hainan is over 220 nautical miles and that from Spratly archipelago to Hainan is over 600 nautical miles so how can they are within 12 nautical miles of territorial waters from the coastline of China???
When China owns that sea area, other countries may not have been established yet, and even if they are established, they will still be vassal states of China!
@@陈宫-k4m😂😂😂 Xijinpig bot. Guam has habitable thousands years ago and guam people decided to get control by US. On Vietnam and Philippines the island on their EEZ there is no permanent residence rather fishing ground.
Really. If trump gets elected then xi xingpig will have the confidence.hebknows that the dems will blow apart every inch of their navy if they do much as touch a single moserles of sand in taiwan.@@unironicaluser1867 you seem to think Kamala is the dove. She is the hawk that will rip apart fascism and communism from all enemies foreing and domestic ie P2025. Read it and you will understand
China wants the Sea in front of each and every country to belong to them. Most other nations agreed on 200 Nautical Mile zone. China is hostile, all the others could probably settle on actual rules.
@@3komma141592653 Nonsense. China is an old country. It had advanced ship building and navigation technologies in ancient time. When Chinese ships sailed in South China Sea. Other countries couldn't leave their sea shore. China was the only independent country in that region during colony era. China has full right to claim territory in South China Sea.
Vietnam and Philippines weren’t even independent sovereignties when China called dibs on these territories. First come First serve. Stop sneaking into our backyard ❤
dude, everyone in southeast asia knows, that they took china's water and lay claim on EEZ based on 80s UNCLOS.. i think though, china should just give them the waters.. just like palestine should give up their sovereignty.. i mean, the arabs are not in control of palestine.. ISRAEL CLAIMS IS INTERNATIONALLY LEGITIMATE..
Before there was UNCLOS, the whole SCS was the common fishing ground of all the countries inside the SCS. When the UNCLOS was invented and their 200NM EEZ, the countries EEZ overlapped each other then the disputes started. Classic case of DIVIDE AND RULE.
This video is actually very bad at explaining the Philippine claim. For that, I recommend lectures from Antonio Carpio. The official and legal Philippine claim, aside from the most important one which is UNCLOS, dates back from the Spanish era NOT Tomas Cloma. Even Carpio emphasized that during the arbitration, our delegation did not use Cloma's claim as evidence. We have not just historical, but legal claims as provided during the Arbitration in The Hague. This includes maps like the Carta General del Archipielgo Filipino from 1875 (If I'm not mistaken) which is based from even older maps of the Spanish Philippines and reprints from the American era. We even have records of mapping the depths of the shoals and the high tide elevations including the name that we still use even today. Moreover, We have a plethora of Treaties from Paris, Washington, and San Francisco. Clearing ambiguities even from the claim that Japan relinquished its claim to the Spratlys back to China. Tomas Cloma is the weakest argument for the Philippine claim to the point that it wasn't even used by the Philippine lawyers in The Hague. TH-cam keeps on deleting comments criticizing the CCP. So I'll reiterate. The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds. For the two, and upcoming ignoramus CCP little pinks saying that "Oh It'S FrOm ThE SpAnIsH ErA" . Let me enlighten you to a vommon international law principle. It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States. With that asinine logic of theirs, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@hijodelsoldeoriente *The official and legal Philippine claim dates back from the Spanish era*. so do we respect the claim that Spain made or you? you claim to be free from colonial rule, why should we take that for thought
Gotta tell ya, I did not expect to hear the movie, "Abominable" be mentioned in this video, but that's what the filmmakers get for trying to push Chinese propaganda 🇨🇳 in an animated film for kids.
lol, ASEAN also includes China-allied countries like Cambodia who aren't party to the South China Sea disputes not to mention mainland China alone has more military power than ASEAN combined and China also controls the upstream rivers of Vietnam, so Vietnam wouldn't be so stupid to try anything less they risk retaliation
ASEAN against China? Littearly 10 of the 11 countries including Vietnam have some good relationships despite the SCS issue. Only the Philippines are the one who is against China.
China is not afraid to take all the South china sea as no one in the asean could match its fleets. They can send half of their fleet and still can force majority of asean out.
Ah yes, the Republic of China, the only country with more territorial disputes than the People’s Republic of China! What a fantastic country to stand with…
North Vietnam already agreed to recognize Paracel and Spratly Islands as Chinese in exchange for help in the Vietnam War but after North Vietnam won and unified Vietnam, they went back on their word and restarted their claim to those islands
Sounds to me like everybody could just get a part of what they want with that UN treaty, except for China 1 and China 2. I'd suggest legally recognizing the landmass Taiwan occupies as an island and altering the EEZs accordingly, then forcing both Chinas to treat the waters surrounding it as free trading waters
Not really Terrorists first came from Afghanistan from The British Empire Then The Soviet-Afghanistan war and The United States invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, so wrong this video is not about Terrorists, it's only your opinion only, lol. 😂😂😂
@barni_782 Whatever, Terrorists is from Afghanistan, I am interested in history, since 2012 so what? It's your opinion like I Said you were the wrong one, fool.
This video is actually very bad at explaining the Philippine claim. For that, I recommend lectures from Former Justice Antonio Carpio who led the arbitration case against China. The official and legal Philippine claim dates back from the Spanish era NOT Tomas Cloma. Even Carpio emphasized that during the arbitration, our delegation did not use Cloma's claim as evidence. We have not just historical, but legal claims as provided during the Arbitration in The Hague. This includes maps like the Carta General del Archipielgo Filipino from 1875 (If I'm not mistaken) which is based from even older maps of the Spanish Philippines and reprints from the American era. We even have records of mapping the depths of the shoals and the high tide elevations including the name that we still use even today. Moreover, We have a plethora of Treaties from Paris, Washington, and San Francisco. Clearing ambiguities even from the claim that Japan relinquished its claim to the Spratlys back to China. Tomas Cloma is the weakest argument for the Philippine claim to the point that it wasn't even used by the Philippine lawyers in The Hague despite us winning. And personally-speaking and as a Filipino, Tomas Cloma's claim is beyond stupid. TH-cam keeps on deleting comments criticizing the CCP. So I'll reiterate. The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks saying that Thr Philippine claim is invalid cause it's based from Spanish and American-era claim, is beyond bounds. Also, Let me enlighten the naivité of these CCP bots. It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States. With that asinine logic of theirs, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@theburden9920 The patjetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds. It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States. With that asinine and brain dead logic of yours, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@theburden9920 The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds. It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States. With that asinine logic of yours, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@theburden9920 TH-cam keeps on deleting comments criticizing the CCP. So I'll reiterate. The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds. It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States. With that asinine logic of yours, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@theburden9920 TH-cam keeps on deleting comments criticizing the CCP. So I'll reiterate. The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds. It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States. With that asinine logic of yours, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state. You think we wouldn't win the arbitration case if we didn't know that? We're not as ignorant as the CCP. 😂
Countries are fighting over it because it has great strategic value. None of the other reason matters. I mean, why do you think the US doing there eight thousand miles away from home if there's no strategic value?
They only fight because China wants to own it all, even 20 KM in front of the Philippines belongs to China, according to China of course. China expect other nations to accept this fraudulent claims and is openly hostile to others.
Taiwan claiming the entire place and also playing the "let's solve it through diplomacy" card is hands down the most hypocritical and smug move I've seen in geopolitics. First of all, if they did have the power to enforce their will, they'd give no shit about the conversations and negotiations rhetoric whatsoever, secondly, Taiwan is generally at the mercy of America and Japan for its existence as an entity, so they can't do much to anger close US allies like the Philippines and Malaysia. At least the rest of them have the guts to enforce their national interests and zip their mouths. Taiwan is pretending to be the voice of peace while claiming everything.
@@rob6927 I've made my point very clear as to why Taiwan unlike the rest of them is acting like an entitled brat and therefore should be given nothing more than a reminder to shut up and sit in the corner
You forgot some points about the philippines. China began doing their thing inside the philippines eez when the Americans left the country. Another one was when a storm hit the archipelago, taiwanese soldiers occupying tithu island were ordered to evacuate. When the storm ended, they returned and found the island to be now occupied by the filipinos😂
I don't think it's fair to say it's "paradoxical" that Taipei didn't sign the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, given... it's not in the UN, due to Beijing's opposition
When China owns that sea area, other countries may not have been established yet, and even if they are established, they will still be vassal states of China!
You are wrong, Only philippine is conflicting with china, Because Marcos Jr. is the puppy of United States, the only gripper US can manipulate in Is south east Àsia.Other countries are very willing to cooperating with china In developing resources in South China Sea area. China is winning the global south , a trend raised by lately published Economist, in which it demonstrated that United States. is hard to reverse.
Bruh, you're using AI-generated images, but we try to save other history figurals and avoid confusion about AI. Because history will repeat if it's used by an AI. The discussion about AI (Artificial Intelligence) is ongoing due to planning for the future of the world like human history and other histories.
For Vietnam, the East Vietnam Sea belongs to countries in the region, in which Hoang Sa and Truong Sa belong to Vietnam. Although there are many small disputes between countries in the region, Vietnam is not as greedy as China, claiming the entire sea and islands as its own. China's actions are no different from imperialist colonial countries plundering less developed countries.
When China owns that sea area, other countries may not have been established yet, and even if they are established, they will still be vassal states of China!
@@baguette2117 When Spain sold Philippines to the US for $20M. None of the islands were listed in any legal document. When Philippines filed independence with UN, none of these islands were listed in Philippines legal documents. In contrast, after Japan surrendered at WW2, UN and UN Security agreed to returned all these islands to China. It is on the UN record.
@@shundi4264 You trust the UN records but not their 2016 ruling? Where they say that China has no rights to the Spratlys beyond what is granted to them by UNCLOS, where they ruled overwhelmingly in favor of the Philippines and threw out China's 'historic' claim
@@baguette2117 UNCLOS has no jurisdiction to rule on territorial rights, Only ICJ can decide. And UNCLOS is not the proper forum because it does not deal with matters of territorial disputes or to resolve issues of sovereignty, as that field is governed by rules of customary international law on the acquisition and loss of territory, which can be decided by the ICJ only.
So, rather than show a map which shows all the countries' claims in the South China Sea, instead this editor decided to take the popular BBC propaganda route and show a map of the EEZs, which none of the South China Sea claimant states actually abide by, and only show China's claims. For example, Vietnam claims about 80% of the South China Sea.
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul I don't think anyone is ignoring them. They are simply acting as responsible actors in the region. For example, Malaysia has its five occupied islands and no one is threatening them, so they are happy. The tension in the region comes from the Philippines actively attempting to beach old warships and to permanently anchor other ships in areas to bolster their claims. It is literally a case of expansionism; ASEAN doesn't support it and China actively resists it.
@@jasonjean2901 they haven’t beached anything since the 90’s my man. So saying they’re actively beaching warships is wrong. All the aggression now is from resupply missions because people need food and water to survive. So the Philippines every month has sent convoy of ships with supplies for the men stationed there. And China is not a fan of this so actively harass them. Although both countries have recently agreed to dial down the aggression Also The Philippines allows journalists on board their ships so they have more transparency when it comes to incidents because the public is able to watch.
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul Wow, you couldn't possibly be more confused. Even western media outlets admit that the Philippines beached their last warship at Second Thomas Shoal in 1999. But they've beached warships since then, and China has towed them away before they could successfully station troops on them (which, unsurprisingly, goes unreported by western media). The Philippines have always been allowed to send food and supplies to its forces on Second Thomas Shoal. China takes special care to note that they only stop ships with construction supplies trying to get there and to turn that rusting hulk of a ship into a more permanent base. The Philippines and western media never mentions this, but the reason why no one is talking about Second Thomas Shoal anymore is because the Philippines government has agreed to stop sending construction supplies to the ship beached there. Now there is another flashpoint because the Philippines are permanently anchoring a ship at another reef. Oh yes, the "journalists" who like to lie about what is obviously happening. Ever notice how, despite ships crashing into one another, the "journalists" never mention who is running into who? I'll give you a hint: the Chinese Coast Guard ships are around 3X the size of the Philippine Coast Guard ships. If the Chinese ships rammed a Philippine ship, it would easily sink them. Guess who is ramming who?
@@jasonjean2901Seems hypocritical to stop them from rebuilding their deteriorating warships when China is also reinforcing their bases. And with the ramming. It could easily be avoided if the warships maintained more distance. I doubt the Philippines could afford the damage to their ships given how small their budget is. If the Philippines were ramming. Seems odd that most of the damage is on the side of their ships. Instead of the front which is more ideal for ramming since you have your engines to help propel the ship.
Let me add. After ww2 Japan return SCS and Taiwan back to china in the Taipei treaty or sinojapan peace treaty inked in accordance to San Francisco peace treaty obligated by postdam and Cairo declaration. Chinas reclaim their territory through internationally recognised treaties claim and declaration as post ww2 world order. When oil were discovered asean countries robbed chinas spratlies in the 70s. China now uses salami slicing strategy to reclaim their stolen spratlies. Therefore China and Taiwan owns SCS before unclos and asean independence even existed. China do not need unclos law or arbitration to own their scs. Eez is not territory. Eez entitlement to resources does not meant entitlement to the territory of china and Taiwan. Countries needed to negotiate permission to use their eez inside china territory. Those that wish to challenge china sovereignty will need to return their stolen spratlies or fight a war with china in the future.
Come back to the real world, stop delusion. Take a look on the sea boundaries and EEZs of Greek and Turkey in Aegean Sea. Greek have almost entirely the whole Aegean Sea. disregard Trukey have legal rights to have at most 200 miles and at least 12 miles EEZ under UNCLOS. Up till now, Trukey have only 3 miles from their costal as well as from their islands remained unchanged. At the same time Greek have more than 12 miles and at least 18 miles to 30 miles in the area next to Turkey's EEZs remain unchanged. The UNCLOS do not give further EEZ to Turkey or cut down any EEZ from Greek. The traditional international law, including but not limited to Common law and Rules of Equity, are exempted from UNCLOS. The case is exempted from historical claim on Greek. China have legally rights, from historical claim on the entire South China Sea but not Phillppines and Vietnam. Phillppines is greedy to steal other people's resources in the name of UNCLOS. Unfortunately the 2016 ruling never help the Philippines's dirty job.In the 2016 ruling no EEZ is given to Philippines in the South China Sea. Phillipine claim the islands in the South China Sea until 1978. The 1978 President Decreese confessed the Phillipine had no legal rights on the islands until 1978. The 1978 PD clearly mentioned those islands were terra nullius, no national including the Philippines, is the legal owner of those islands........ Very honest Phillipnes President who tell us part of the truth that, (Philippines have no legal rights on the islands, from any document, treaty and map etc). The whole world know Taiwan / China claim the entirely area in , 1887, 1895 , 1920, 1947, 1952, based on many treaties. Vietnam claim the entirely area in 1956. How can the entirely area a terra nullius (no owner's land) ?Phillipines is stealing what is not belonging to them in 1978. Vietnam, same case as Philippines, the boundary was limited by treaties. Both Vietnam and Philippines have no legal rights to own any island, rock, reef in the South China Sea. Convention relative à la délimitation de la frontière entre la Chine et le Tonkin" is a treaty between Ching and French. The maps in the attachment clearly showed the sea boundary of Tonkin Protectorate and Annam Protectorate. Those islands in the South China Sea were not included in both protectorates. Furthermore the treaty stated those islands in the South China Sea belong to Ching Empire, later China. Both protectorates later form the French Indochina and then Vietnam.
The 2016 Tribunal is interesting for several reasons. Firstly, Article 287 of UNCLOS allows signatories to opt-out of arbitration. China did so in 2006, and the Philippines also did so. Consequently, the Hague tribunal, which was actually started and funded by the U.S., and not the Philippines, was created by a non-signatory state, using UNCLOS, on behalf of a state which opted-out of binding arbitration, to bindingly arbitrate another state, China, which had also opted-out of binding arbitration. What a mockery of international law! Secondly, on the basis that UNCLOS says nothing about sovereign claims which extend beyond specifically designated UNCLOS regulations; the arbitration tribunal claimed that there was no legal basis for Chinese claims. No kidding! A treaty which says nothing about sovereign claims has nothing to say about...sovereign claims. But this ruling is also interesting in how it also invalidates all other historical claims in the region, including the Philippines' claims! No one ever discusses that though.
It invalidates all claims based on all the features in the sea. Such as the paracel and spratly islands. Meaning those features don’t grant the countries that control them anything. Not the Philippines China or Vietnam. But the claims based on Hainan, the coast of Vietnam, Luzon and Palawan are still accepted. All those claims remain.
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul The logic of the decision is also simply ridiculous. All nations were comfortable signing and ratifying UNCLOS, except the U.S., because it made no mention on state sovereign claims. The arbitration tribunal, which was anything but as the U.S. paid the entire $30 million to five hand-picked judges, which amounts to a blatant bribe; made the ridiculous decision that, because state sovereign claims were not mentioned in UNCLOS, that therefore they have no validity. That is complete nonsense. And not a single claimant state in the South China Sea would go along with it.
EARLY 1900 CHINESE MAPS SHOW THAT HAINAN WAS D SOUTHRNMOST PART OF CHINA, NOT WEST PHIL SEA, NOT SOUTH CHINA SEA, NOT EVEN TAIWAN WHILE 17TH CENTURY PH AND EUROPEAN MAPS SHOW THEY'RE PART OF THE PH. GEOGRAPHICALLY, HISTORICALLY& LEGALLY, CHINA D THIEF HASNO BUSINESS IN PH WATERS. CHINA'S TERRITORIAL CLAIMS OF WEST PH SEA ALONG WITH OTHER ASIAN TERRITORIES ARE AS FAKE AS THEIR MAN MADE ISLANDS BUILT IN PH WATERS. CHINA'S CLAIMS ARE AS UNRELIABLE AS THEIR WORLD FAMOUS, POOR QUALITY MADE IN CHINA PRODUCTS. WHT A BIG SHAME
Honestly it does just seem like an eye-rollingly stupid stance for China to take on something so minor. No-one buys that historical map BS in the modern world, and in continuing to bully the smaller states around that sea and trying to strong-arm its will onto them via guns and watercannons, it only serves to remind them why the Americans, arrogant, annoying and self-righteous though they are, are useful to keep around as a counter. Not like US warhawks care one bit about those islands, but if not acknowledging China's claims nets them half a dozen conveniently located allies to potentially throttle chinese overseas trade one day, well that's just a Beijing own goal.
it's not minor, ownership of the islands means ownership of the fish, oil, and other surrounding natural resources not to mention strategic outposts prevent other powers from imposing blockades on you
When the 11-dash line was drawn, those countries were colonies of the United States and France, and did not claim sovereignty over the South China Sea islands; China was an ally of the United States, and it was the United States warships with Chinese troops that occupied the South China Sea islands.
Come back to the real world, stop delusion. Take a look on the sea boundaries and EEZs of Greek and Turkey in Aegean Sea. Greek have almost entirely the whole Aegean Sea. disregard Trukey have legal rights to have at most 200 miles and at least 12 miles EEZ under UNCLOS. Up till now, Trukey have only 3 miles from their costal as well as from their islands remained unchanged. At the same time Greek have more than 12 miles and at least 18 miles to 30 miles in the area next to Turkey's EEZs remain unchanged. The UNCLOS do not give further EEZ to Turkey or cut down any EEZ from Greek. The traditional international law, including but not limited to Common law and Rules of Equity, are exempted from UNCLOS. The case is exempted from historical claim on Greek. China have sovereign rights on those area are not from maps alone. The sovereignty rights is from a lot of treaties (same case as Turkey and Greece ).
The sudden unexpected segue from controversial geopolitics to a Dreamworks film made me laugh way harder than it should have.
It's about time. I live in Southeast Asia and this is the most hotly debated topic in politics...
Vietnam has absolutely no connection with China in any way. Confucianism, the Spring Festival, Mid-Autumn Festival, and the lunar calendar-Vietnamese people should avoid using these, as Chinese people and Southeast Asians are different. Vietnamese people are Southeast Asians and belong to the Southeast Asian cultural sphere.
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@@pts9553 what a weird take. Chinese culture is an integral part of Vietnamese culture, regardless of your views on geopolitics. It's absurd to deny it. What even is "southeast Asian" culture? Going by your logic, the peoples of Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia ought to toss away their deeply ingrained islamic influence, which is more foreign to this part of the world and has been introduced for a shorter period of time than Chinese culture has been to Vietnam
@@eccentrlcpenguin it is up to the Vietnamese to decide if they wish to discard away aspects of Chinese (Han) culture. I've been to Vietnam many times and they are more than happy to retain it. You don't get to shoehorn your bigoted prejudices into their discourse by dictating what elements of other people's culture they wish to retain or discard, notwithstanding that these elements may have been "foreign" in origin (and even then, the notion of "foreignness" is open to heavy debate).
@@eccentrlcpenguin bro thinks han culture = chinese culture. total missing hakka, tonkienese, fuchou, min , yue (viet), dai, Yi, Zhuang, Zhang. Study more before you pull your *strawman* card to any argument.
Dai is associated deeply with thai, Yue which originates from southern china before Qin empire expands and colonizes it, in which the majority of them moved south to modern vietnam and clashed with past champasak , cambodia and other tribes. I urge you to study more on SEA region and lets discuss further
This is hands down one of the best TH-cam channels around. Your team makes fantastic videos, thank you all so much for the well researched and highly educational videos!
The narrator is insufferable.
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Not even ASEAN supports the Philippines' claims. They go far beyond the UNCLOS EEZs, and the Philippines keeps trying to beach old warships to attempt to claim new territory.
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My only take on the whole mess is that looking at the eight-nine-ten-eleven dash line, it is ridiculous to expect anyone else to accept them owning so much ocean so far from their coast and so close to so many other countries' coasts. It would be like the US claiming to own the Gulf of Mexico, any northern European country claiming to own the entire Baltic Sea, or any Mediterranean country claiming to own the entire Mediterranean.
the US and France do in fact claim vast swathes of the sea based on island territories far from their coasts, on the other side of the world
@@user-tr1zj They don't claim 90% of an ocean right up to the surrounding countries' coasts.
@@grizwoldphantasia5005 South China Sea is not an ocean
@@user-tr1zj It's not an inland sea either. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what difference the definition makes to the eight-nine-ten-eleven dash line's greed.
@@grizwoldphantasia5005 feel free to ask Taiwan
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Prime Minister Pham Van Dong's dispatch did not agree that Hoang Sa and Truong Sa belonged to China, only saying that Vietnam respected the 12-nautical mile sea area that China claimed sovereignty over. The dispatch did not mention Hoang Sa and Truong Sa, China was very vague when talking about them.
They didn't even respond when China invade Paracel islands. Just say they're the reason the Paracel lost to China
North Vietnam already agreed to recognize Paracel and Spratly Islands as Chinese in exchange for help in the Vietnam War
but after North Vietnam won and unified Vietnam, they went back on their word and restarted their claim to those islands
In international laws, "silence" = "agree".
Republic of Vietnam responded (but lost) in 1974 events, but the North keep silence.
@@nvkhoi1 At that time, Hoang Sa was administered by South Vietnam (the puppet Saigon government established by the United States) because it was below the 17th parallel. North Vietnam protested but could do nothing because it was at war with South Vietnam and the United States and the North Vietnamese navy was not strong enough.
@@user-tr1zj There is no concrete evidence that North Vietnam recognizes the Paracel and Spratly Islands as belonging to China.
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@@art-hn2dnno it is actually a country in western Pelyphoniya bordering the states Stopido and Nowaki
@@CupcakkeIsQueen what in the unrecognized fisherman countries
In my humble opion the islands are still Spanish, which would be the best option anways, as we know that the Spanish are great in developing inslands to tourist paradises (Canaries (Gran Canaria, Teneriffe), Balears (Mallorca, Ibiza.)) Go Spain!
that is not an opinion that's a rocking obsession
hello, i'mma fan of your vids for 2 years now
Did Australia behave similarly to China in claiming the seas near Indonesia, Papua New Gunea etc? Can you please do a video about that?
No. Indonesia already have clear defined border agreement including maritime Border with Australia and Papua Nugini. I suggest your country do the same and have clear border agreement with your neighbour
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When China owns that sea area, other countries may not have been established yet, and even if they are established, they will still be vassal states of China!
@@sultan9givewey the real threat of disputes comes from Malaysia and Philippines for ex, an Ambalat Sea
@@FrozenDrone12 no threat. Philippines maritime Border already agreement. Small Malaysia can't do anything in Ambalat againts huge Indonesian military. Indonesian already doing some oil projects there by Pertamina Hulu Energi (PHE) East Ambalat
Thank you.
Hey, your video is informative and thorough but there is one misleading point that I need to clarify and fix. The official statement of Pham Van Dong, the prime minister of North Vietnam at that time, only agreed on the 12 nautical miles of territorial waters extending from the coastline of mainland China (today it is called EEZ) and DID NOT recognise anything about the sovereignty of over the Spratly islands and Paracel Islands. It is clear that the distance from Paracel archipelago to Hainan is over 220 nautical miles and that from Spratly archipelago to Hainan is over 600 nautical miles so how can they are within 12 nautical miles of territorial waters from the coastline of China???
谁告诉你领土是按距离划分的？中国领土绵延上万公里，南海距离中国就跟家门口一样近
When China owns that sea area, other countries may not have been established yet, and even if they are established, they will still be vassal states of China!
@@陈宫-k4mwho taught you a doorstep is 600 nautical miles? Taiwan?
@@cieldemer2540 你可以去跟美国说，关岛距离你家8000海里，应该属于菲律宾。而不是来中国的南沙群岛闹事。这个逻辑性你不懂？
@@陈宫-k4m😂😂😂 Xijinpig bot. Guam has habitable thousands years ago and guam people decided to get control by US. On Vietnam and Philippines the island on their EEZ there is no permanent residence rather fishing ground.
Very nice
Hello Geo history
Who is here before the invasion of Taiwan in 2026?
not going to happen
only if kamalalalala gets elected
@@unironicaluser1867dumb ah Americans stop bringing your politics here
Really. If trump gets elected then xi xingpig will have the confidence.hebknows that the dems will blow apart every inch of their navy if they do much as touch a single moserles of sand in taiwan.@@unironicaluser1867 you seem to think Kamala is the dove. She is the hawk that will rip apart fascism and communism from all enemies foreing and domestic ie P2025. Read it and you will understand
China is probably not dumb enough to do that for now
this is becoming more conciliatory
Watching from Gulf of Thailand
Oh, nice that you added the fact that the countries other than China also have conflicting claims. Just seems like a messy situation in general
Oil and natural gas really does uncover the greed of everyone. Well maybe except Indonesia
lmao "Freedomland" holy based
Can you please make a video on British conquest of india
Hi! Early?
So basically everyone is greedy af.
China wants the Sea in front of each and every country to belong to them. Most other nations agreed on 200 Nautical Mile zone. China is hostile, all the others could probably settle on actual rules.
didnt know protecting what u own is considered greedy
except for china lmao
@@rinsheltered3555 China doesn't own it.
Winnie the pooh is the only one being greedy
@@3komma141592653 Nonsense. China is an old country. It had advanced ship building and navigation technologies in ancient time. When Chinese ships sailed in South China Sea. Other countries couldn't leave their sea shore. China was the only independent country in that region during colony era. China has full right to claim territory in South China Sea.
Indonesia just chillin right there 😂
Sleeping giant
Nope. They're also facing Chinese aggression in the waters off the coast of Riau archipelago in SCS.
Vietnam and Philippines weren’t even independent sovereignties when China called dibs on these territories. First come First serve. Stop sneaking into our backyard ❤
Hadn't UN said philippines already had that sea in 2012 plus that claims is literally like a line drawed by a kid
I don’t know part of u.n said that the Philippines have the right claimed over the disputed island your dvmb asss don’t understand
Next history of train pleass
Any reason we can't call the northern chunk of water the Paracel Sea, and the southern chunk the Spratly Sea? No?
it’s south of China, so “South China Sea”
its also west of philippines and east of taiwan
Imagine a world which we all got along?
We would be landing men in the far reaches of the galaxy instead of claming petty islands
Space exploration is pure fantasy of those weak in mathematics.
"what is so hard to understand about a dotted line?"-China
dude, everyone in southeast asia knows, that they took china's water and lay claim on EEZ based on 80s UNCLOS.. i think though, china should just give them the waters.. just like palestine should give up their sovereignty.. i mean, the arabs are not in control of palestine.. ISRAEL CLAIMS IS INTERNATIONALLY LEGITIMATE..
Before there was UNCLOS, the whole SCS was the common fishing ground of all the countries inside the SCS.
When the UNCLOS was invented and their 200NM EEZ, the countries EEZ overlapped each other then the disputes started.
Classic case of DIVIDE AND RULE.
Philippine media should take note of this to not have poor educated guesses and reckless stances. Government too.
This video is actually very bad at explaining the Philippine claim. For that, I recommend lectures from Antonio Carpio. The official and legal Philippine claim, aside from the most important one which is UNCLOS, dates back from the Spanish era NOT Tomas Cloma. Even Carpio emphasized that during the arbitration, our delegation did not use Cloma's claim as evidence. We have not just historical, but legal claims as provided during the Arbitration in The Hague. This includes maps like the Carta General del Archipielgo Filipino from 1875 (If I'm not mistaken) which is based from even older maps of the Spanish Philippines and reprints from the American era. We even have records of mapping the depths of the shoals and the high tide elevations including the name that we still use even today. Moreover, We have a plethora of Treaties from Paris, Washington, and San Francisco. Clearing ambiguities even from the claim that Japan relinquished its claim to the Spratlys back to China.
Tomas Cloma is the weakest argument for the Philippine claim to the point that it wasn't even used by the Philippine lawyers in The Hague.
TH-cam keeps on deleting comments criticizing the CCP. So I'll reiterate. The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds.
For the two, and upcoming ignoramus CCP little pinks saying that "Oh It'S FrOm ThE SpAnIsH ErA" . Let me enlighten you to a vommon international law principle.
It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States.
With that asinine logic of theirs, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@hijodelsoldeoriente *The official and legal Philippine claim dates back from the Spanish era*. so do we respect the claim that Spain made or you? you claim to be free from colonial rule, why should we take that for thought
@@brandof123 let me guess. Yet another CCP little pink or 50 cent army? 😂
Pathetic.
@@brandof123nerd alert 😂
@@KinEnzo9788 nice counter argument
Gotta tell ya, I did not expect to hear the movie, "Abominable" be mentioned in this video, but that's what the filmmakers get for trying to push Chinese propaganda 🇨🇳 in an animated film for kids.
ASEAN should team up on both Chinas.
lol, ASEAN also includes China-allied countries like Cambodia who aren't party to the South China Sea disputes
not to mention mainland China alone has more military power than ASEAN combined
and China also controls the upstream rivers of Vietnam, so Vietnam wouldn't be so stupid to try anything less they risk retaliation
ASEAN against China? Littearly 10 of the 11 countries including Vietnam have some good relationships despite the SCS issue. Only the Philippines are the one who is against China.
@@user-tr1zj Only stupid people would team up against largest trading nation, We still want development and trade. nice try foreign agent
@@markodevefdude, wtf Vietnamese propaganda are everywhere here
ASEAN is an economic alliance
Bandori Party - South China Sea? 🇨🇳
Shine Post - West Philippine Sea? 🇵🇭
China is not afraid to take all the South china sea as no one in the asean could match its fleets. They can send half of their fleet and still can force majority of asean out.
DreamWorks jumpscare
Its illegal to be this early
Music is very underwhelming this time round, the Music in your WWI & WWII videos where much better
It's not a free for all, it's a China vs ASEAN situation
I stand with Taiwan 🇹🇼
I sit down with Taiwan ( i got tired)
The Republic of China is literally more imperialist and less reasonable than the PRC, as shown in the video and with its other bajillion claims.
Heck no
Ah yes, the Republic of China, the only country with more territorial disputes than the People’s Republic of China! What a fantastic country to stand with…
Of course the white man stands with Taiwan 💀
Hoàng Sa, Trường là thuộc về VietNam
North Vietnam already agreed to recognize Paracel and Spratly Islands as Chinese in exchange for help in the Vietnam War
but after North Vietnam won and unified Vietnam, they went back on their word and restarted their claim to those islands
@@user-tr1zj đủ bằng chứng cơ sở chứng minh hãy gặp nhau ở tòa án Quốc Tế 😊
Sounds to me like everybody could just get a part of what they want with that UN treaty, except for China 1 and China 2. I'd suggest legally recognizing the landmass Taiwan occupies as an island and altering the EEZs accordingly, then forcing both Chinas to treat the waters surrounding it as free trading waters
Woah
China, what's China? We only know Taiwan and Mainland Taiwan 🇹🇼
Is Republic of China 🇹🇼
Anyone know what app he's using to make these vids?
The idea for the video "Terrorism"
Not really Terrorists first came from Afghanistan from The British Empire Then The Soviet-Afghanistan war and The United States invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, so wrong this video is not about Terrorists, it's only your opinion only, lol. 😂😂😂
@@nobunagaoda9277 Bro, it's not just Afghanistan, you're just not interested in terrorists.
@barni_782 Whatever, Terrorists is from Afghanistan, I am interested in history, since 2012 so what? It's your opinion like I Said you were the wrong one, fool.
Not 6 countries.. only 1 country claiming everything and 5 others just depending their territory
This video is actually very bad at explaining the Philippine claim. For that, I recommend lectures from Former Justice Antonio Carpio who led the arbitration case against China. The official and legal Philippine claim dates back from the Spanish era NOT Tomas Cloma. Even Carpio emphasized that during the arbitration, our delegation did not use Cloma's claim as evidence. We have not just historical, but legal claims as provided during the Arbitration in The Hague. This includes maps like the Carta General del Archipielgo Filipino from 1875 (If I'm not mistaken) which is based from even older maps of the Spanish Philippines and reprints from the American era. We even have records of mapping the depths of the shoals and the high tide elevations including the name that we still use even today. Moreover, We have a plethora of Treaties from Paris, Washington, and San Francisco. Clearing ambiguities even from the claim that Japan relinquished its claim to the Spratlys back to China.
Tomas Cloma is the weakest argument for the Philippine claim to the point that it wasn't even used by the Philippine lawyers in The Hague despite us winning. And personally-speaking and as a Filipino, Tomas Cloma's claim is beyond stupid.
TH-cam keeps on deleting comments criticizing the CCP. So I'll reiterate. The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks saying that Thr Philippine claim is invalid cause it's based from Spanish and American-era claim, is beyond bounds.
Also, Let me enlighten the naivité of these CCP bots. It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States.
With that asinine logic of theirs, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
Spanish era lol which.means its not the philippines not spain😅
@@theburden9920 The patjetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds.
It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States.
With that asinine and brain dead logic of yours, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@theburden9920 The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds.
It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States.
With that asinine logic of yours, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@theburden9920 TH-cam keeps on deleting comments criticizing the CCP. So I'll reiterate. The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds.
It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States.
With that asinine logic of yours, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
@@theburden9920
TH-cam keeps on deleting comments criticizing the CCP. So I'll reiterate. The pathetic ignorance of this CCP little pinks is beyond bounds.
It's called Uti Possidetis Juris. A principle of customary international law that serves to preserve the boundaries of colonies emerging as States.
With that asinine logic of yours, more than half of the states in the entire world wouldn't be a sovereign state.
You think we wouldn't win the arbitration case if we didn't know that? We're not as ignorant as the CCP. 😂
Countries are fighting over it because it has great strategic value. None of the other reason matters. I mean, why do you think the US doing there eight thousand miles away from home if there's no strategic value?
They only fight because China wants to own it all, even 20 KM in front of the Philippines belongs to China, according to China of course. China expect other nations to accept this fraudulent claims and is openly hostile to others.
Under 11 minutes
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Is anyone in doubt who has been the troublemaker?
Ill stop the conflict myself
Holy crap, UN hire this guy!!!
Never stop making videos!! One of the most valuable free information out there🫡
It's west Philippines sea
No, wrong
Philippine patriot detected
some of it is west philippine sea, yes
Taiwan claiming the entire place and also playing the "let's solve it through diplomacy" card is hands down the most hypocritical and smug move I've seen in geopolitics. First of all, if they did have the power to enforce their will, they'd give no shit about the conversations and negotiations rhetoric whatsoever, secondly, Taiwan is generally at the mercy of America and Japan for its existence as an entity, so they can't do much to anger close US allies like the Philippines and Malaysia. At least the rest of them have the guts to enforce their national interests and zip their mouths. Taiwan is pretending to be the voice of peace while claiming everything.
Taiwan is literally no different from China on this issue 🤷♂️
@@rob6927 I've made my point very clear as to why Taiwan unlike the rest of them is acting like an entitled brat and therefore should be given nothing more than a reminder to shut up and sit in the corner
You forgot some points about the philippines. China began doing their thing inside the philippines eez when the Americans left the country. Another one was when a storm hit the archipelago, taiwanese soldiers occupying tithu island were ordered to evacuate. When the storm ended, they returned and found the island to be now occupied by the filipinos😂
That’s Falsehoods.
Sad to see that the title states “south china sea”
你所在的国家位于 中南半岛！ 意思是中国南面的半岛
please stop the use of AI images
ATIN ANG WEST PHILIPPINE SEA 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
make a video on history of indian subcontintent. please
The interna community should rename it as "Southeast Asia Sea." We need neutral term.
first
Because either Mu, R'lyeh and MH370 are located there, or maybe there's a large alien base around there!
沒有台灣這個國家。你難道以為有馬尼拉、雅加達、吉隆坡、河內這些國家嗎？你只是不敢寫中華民國的英文名稱！！
This really hurts: "China massacred 64 Vietnamese soldiers".
GEOHISTORY IS COOKING
I pa lease n lng nten ung iba dyan na naoccupy ng ibang bansa
west taiwan south sea
I don't think it's fair to say it's "paradoxical" that Taipei didn't sign the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, given... it's not in the UN, due to Beijing's opposition
A fight for mining rights to bat poop?
How long would Taiwan last What a joke
China is far away, they shud show some maturity , no need to be war monger all the time.
When China owns that sea area, other countries may not have been established yet, and even if they are established, they will still be vassal states of China!
Ah yes 6 counties with somewhat plausible claim and then USA 🦅🦅🦅
didnt know that Taiwan is the first to draw this "11 or 9 dash line" something thought it was communist china
Aren't all of them are allies except china
no lol, Vietnam/Philippines, Vietnam/Malaysia, Vietnam/Brunei, Vietnam/Indonesia, Philippines/Malaysia, Malaysia/Brunei all have overlapping claims
Galaxy brain understanding of geopolitics
@@user-tr1zjPhilippine/Malaysia was barely overlapping, and Brunei/Malaysia was solved a long time ago if I remember correctly
Only Philipina 🤭🤭🤭🤭
CHINA DOMINATING EVERYONE BE LIKE:
You are wrong, Only philippine is conflicting with china, Because Marcos Jr. is the puppy of United States, the only gripper US can manipulate in Is south east Àsia.Other countries are very willing to cooperating with china In developing resources in South China Sea area. China is winning the global south , a trend raised by lately published Economist, in which it demonstrated that United States.
is hard to reverse.
Bruh, you're using AI-generated images, but we try to save other history figurals and avoid confusion about AI. Because history will repeat if it's used by an AI. The discussion about AI (Artificial Intelligence) is ongoing due to planning for the future of the world like human history and other histories.
What is bro yapping about😭🙏
For Vietnam, the East Vietnam Sea belongs to countries in the region, in which Hoang Sa and Truong Sa belong to Vietnam. Although there are many small disputes between countries in the region, Vietnam is not as greedy as China, claiming the entire sea and islands as its own. China's actions are no different from imperialist colonial countries plundering less developed countries.
你以为他不想？他是被中国压住了，越南80年代声称整个东南半岛都是他的领土，一看你就不懂历史，80年代越南同时侵略中国，柬埔寨，老挝，泰国，要吞并整个东南半岛并侵吞全部南海
When China owns that sea area, other countries may not have been established yet, and even if they are established, they will still be vassal states of China!
Thanks to China, Southeast Asia is developing
China didn't defeat South Vietnam in 1974, South Vietnam defeated themselves
So you mean the communist viet nam didn't attack south Vietnam at that time. Btw, china still have casualties, unlike when they invade Gac Ma in 1988
Vietnam defeated south vietnam in 1974
@@radenlayni4442 not really, a year later
I had to pause the video at 11:02 😭
China has the rights to defend its sovereign territory.
Nothing at all, you're dreaming. 😂
Correct. The Spratly islands and especially the waters between them are simply not Chinese territory
@@baguette2117 When Spain sold Philippines to the US for $20M. None of the islands were listed in any legal document. When Philippines filed independence with UN, none of these islands were listed in Philippines legal documents. In contrast, after Japan surrendered at WW2, UN and UN Security agreed to returned all these islands to China. It is on the UN record.
@@shundi4264 You trust the UN records but not their 2016 ruling?
Where they say that China has no rights to the Spratlys beyond what is granted to them by UNCLOS, where they ruled overwhelmingly in favor of the Philippines and threw out China's 'historic' claim
@@baguette2117 UNCLOS has no jurisdiction to rule on territorial rights, Only ICJ can decide. And UNCLOS is not the proper forum because it does not deal with matters of territorial disputes or to resolve issues of sovereignty, as that field is governed by rules of customary international law on the acquisition and loss of territory, which can be decided by the ICJ only.
So, rather than show a map which shows all the countries' claims in the South China Sea, instead this editor decided to take the popular BBC propaganda route and show a map of the EEZs, which none of the South China Sea claimant states actually abide by, and only show China's claims. For example, Vietnam claims about 80% of the South China Sea.
Let’s just ignore Malaysia and Brunei
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul I don't think anyone is ignoring them. They are simply acting as responsible actors in the region. For example, Malaysia has its five occupied islands and no one is threatening them, so they are happy. The tension in the region comes from the Philippines actively attempting to beach old warships and to permanently anchor other ships in areas to bolster their claims. It is literally a case of expansionism; ASEAN doesn't support it and China actively resists it.
@@jasonjean2901 they haven’t beached anything since the 90’s my man. So saying they’re actively beaching warships is wrong.
All the aggression now is from resupply missions because people need food and water to survive. So the Philippines every month has sent convoy of ships with supplies for the men stationed there.
And China is not a fan of this so actively harass them. Although both countries have recently agreed to dial down the aggression
Also The Philippines allows journalists on board their ships so they have more transparency when it comes to incidents because the public is able to watch.
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul Wow, you couldn't possibly be more confused. Even western media outlets admit that the Philippines beached their last warship at Second Thomas Shoal in 1999. But they've beached warships since then, and China has towed them away before they could successfully station troops on them (which, unsurprisingly, goes unreported by western media).
The Philippines have always been allowed to send food and supplies to its forces on Second Thomas Shoal. China takes special care to note that they only stop ships with construction supplies trying to get there and to turn that rusting hulk of a ship into a more permanent base. The Philippines and western media never mentions this, but the reason why no one is talking about Second Thomas Shoal anymore is because the Philippines government has agreed to stop sending construction supplies to the ship beached there. Now there is another flashpoint because the Philippines are permanently anchoring a ship at another reef.
Oh yes, the "journalists" who like to lie about what is obviously happening. Ever notice how, despite ships crashing into one another, the "journalists" never mention who is running into who? I'll give you a hint: the Chinese Coast Guard ships are around 3X the size of the Philippine Coast Guard ships. If the Chinese ships rammed a Philippine ship, it would easily sink them. Guess who is ramming who?
@@jasonjean2901Seems hypocritical to stop them from rebuilding their deteriorating warships when China is also reinforcing their bases.
And with the ramming. It could easily be avoided if the warships maintained more distance. I doubt the Philippines could afford the damage to their ships given how small their budget is.
If the Philippines were ramming. Seems odd that most of the damage is on the side of their ships. Instead of the front which is more ideal for ramming since you have your engines to help propel the ship.
Let me add. After ww2 Japan return SCS and Taiwan back to china in the Taipei treaty or sinojapan peace treaty inked in accordance to San Francisco peace treaty obligated by postdam and Cairo declaration. Chinas reclaim their territory through internationally recognised treaties claim and declaration as post ww2 world order.
When oil were discovered asean countries robbed chinas spratlies in the 70s.
China now uses salami slicing strategy to reclaim their stolen spratlies.
Therefore China and Taiwan owns SCS before unclos and asean independence even existed.
China do not need unclos law or arbitration to own their scs.
Eez is not territory. Eez entitlement to resources does not meant entitlement to the territory of china and Taiwan.
Countries needed to negotiate permission to use their eez inside china territory.
Those that wish to challenge china sovereignty will need to return their stolen spratlies or fight a war with china in the future.
para d n magkagulo
ALL IS FREEDOMLAND
Thank you for not including Indonesia in this useless conflict
ASEAN need to unite this time!
Come back to the real world, stop delusion. Take a look on the sea boundaries and EEZs of Greek and Turkey in Aegean Sea. Greek have almost entirely the whole Aegean Sea. disregard Trukey have legal rights to have at most 200 miles and at least 12 miles EEZ under UNCLOS.
Up till now, Trukey have only 3 miles from their costal as well as from their islands remained unchanged. At the same time Greek have more than 12 miles and at least 18 miles to 30 miles in the area next to Turkey's EEZs remain unchanged. The UNCLOS do not give further EEZ to Turkey or cut down any EEZ from Greek.
The traditional international law, including but not limited to Common law and Rules of Equity, are exempted from UNCLOS. The case is exempted from historical claim on Greek.
China have legally rights, from historical claim on the entire South China Sea but not Phillppines and Vietnam.
Phillppines is greedy to steal other people's resources in the name of UNCLOS. Unfortunately the 2016 ruling never help the Philippines's dirty job.In the 2016 ruling no EEZ is given to Philippines in the South China Sea.
Phillipine claim the islands in the South China Sea until 1978. The 1978 President Decreese confessed the Phillipine had no legal rights on the islands until 1978. The 1978 PD clearly mentioned those islands were terra nullius, no national including the Philippines, is the legal owner of those islands........ Very honest Phillipnes President who tell us part of the truth that, (Philippines have no legal rights on the islands, from any document, treaty and map etc).
The whole world know Taiwan / China claim the entirely area in , 1887, 1895 , 1920, 1947, 1952, based on many treaties. Vietnam claim the entirely area in 1956. How can the entirely area a terra nullius (no owner's land) ?Phillipines is stealing what is not belonging to them in 1978.
Vietnam, same case as Philippines, the boundary was limited by treaties. Both Vietnam and Philippines have no legal rights to own any island, rock, reef in the South China Sea.
Convention relative à la délimitation de la frontière entre la Chine et le Tonkin" is a treaty between Ching and French. The maps in the attachment clearly showed the sea boundary of Tonkin Protectorate and Annam Protectorate. Those islands in the South China Sea were not included in both protectorates. Furthermore the treaty stated those islands in the South China Sea belong to Ching Empire, later China.
Both protectorates later form the French Indochina and then Vietnam.
Nothing belongs to China. And Qing was Manchu empire, so nothing to do with the CCP.
VIETNAM SEA & WEST PHILIPPINE SEA. 🤟💗🔥
It sold be vietnam own it
PIN PLZ
The 2016 Tribunal is interesting for several reasons. Firstly, Article 287 of UNCLOS allows signatories to opt-out of arbitration. China did so in 2006, and the Philippines also did so. Consequently, the Hague tribunal, which was actually started and funded by the U.S., and not the Philippines, was created by a non-signatory state, using UNCLOS, on behalf of a state which opted-out of binding arbitration, to bindingly arbitrate another state, China, which had also opted-out of binding arbitration. What a mockery of international law!
Secondly, on the basis that UNCLOS says nothing about sovereign claims which extend beyond specifically designated UNCLOS regulations; the arbitration tribunal claimed that there was no legal basis for Chinese claims. No kidding! A treaty which says nothing about sovereign claims has nothing to say about...sovereign claims. But this ruling is also interesting in how it also invalidates all other historical claims in the region, including the Philippines' claims! No one ever discusses that though.
It invalidates all claims based on all the features in the sea. Such as the paracel and spratly islands. Meaning those features don’t grant the countries that control them anything. Not the Philippines China or Vietnam.
But the claims based on Hainan, the coast of Vietnam, Luzon and Palawan are still accepted. All those claims remain.
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul The logic of the decision is also simply ridiculous. All nations were comfortable signing and ratifying UNCLOS, except the U.S., because it made no mention on state sovereign claims. The arbitration tribunal, which was anything but as the U.S. paid the entire $30 million to five hand-picked judges, which amounts to a blatant bribe; made the ridiculous decision that, because state sovereign claims were not mentioned in UNCLOS, that therefore they have no validity. That is complete nonsense. And not a single claimant state in the South China Sea would go along with it.
EARLY 1900 CHINESE MAPS SHOW THAT HAINAN WAS D SOUTHRNMOST PART OF CHINA, NOT WEST PHIL SEA, NOT SOUTH CHINA SEA, NOT EVEN TAIWAN WHILE 17TH CENTURY PH AND EUROPEAN MAPS SHOW THEY'RE PART OF THE PH. GEOGRAPHICALLY, HISTORICALLY& LEGALLY, CHINA D THIEF HASNO BUSINESS IN PH WATERS.
CHINA'S TERRITORIAL CLAIMS OF WEST PH SEA ALONG WITH OTHER ASIAN TERRITORIES ARE AS FAKE AS THEIR MAN MADE ISLANDS BUILT IN PH WATERS. CHINA'S CLAIMS ARE AS UNRELIABLE AS THEIR WORLD FAMOUS, POOR QUALITY MADE IN CHINA PRODUCTS. WHT A BIG SHAME
Before UN was established, China already made territory claim in South China Sea. UN can not decide territory owership that existed older than itself.
@@YDChang-s1m they made the rules to help resolve all the competing claims. China isn’t alone in claiming territory. They all do.
Honestly it does just seem like an eye-rollingly stupid stance for China to take on something so minor. No-one buys that historical map BS in the modern world, and in continuing to bully the smaller states around that sea and trying to strong-arm its will onto them via guns and watercannons, it only serves to remind them why the Americans, arrogant, annoying and self-righteous though they are, are useful to keep around as a counter. Not like US warhawks care one bit about those islands, but if not acknowledging China's claims nets them half a dozen conveniently located allies to potentially throttle chinese overseas trade one day, well that's just a Beijing own goal.
it's not minor, ownership of the islands means ownership of the fish, oil, and other surrounding natural resources
not to mention strategic outposts prevent other powers from imposing blockades on you
When the 11-dash line was drawn, those countries were colonies of the United States and France, and did not claim sovereignty over the South China Sea islands; China was an ally of the United States, and it was the United States warships with Chinese troops that occupied the South China Sea islands.
Come back to the real world, stop delusion. Take a look on the sea boundaries and EEZs of Greek and Turkey in Aegean Sea. Greek have almost entirely the whole Aegean Sea. disregard Trukey have legal rights to have at most 200 miles and at least 12 miles EEZ under UNCLOS.
Up till now, Trukey have only 3 miles from their costal as well as from their islands remained unchanged. At the same time Greek have more than 12 miles and at least 18 miles to 30 miles in the area next to Turkey's EEZs remain unchanged. The UNCLOS do not give further EEZ to Turkey or cut down any EEZ from Greek.
The traditional international law, including but not limited to Common law and Rules of Equity, are exempted from UNCLOS. The case is exempted from historical claim on Greek.
China have sovereign rights on those area are not from maps alone. The sovereignty rights is from a lot of treaties (same case as Turkey and Greece ).