Thank you for posting this tutorial. I asked myself "Do I have to use calculus to make a template that I could wrap around a pipe?" I did a search " how to make a template of 2 pipes intersecting at right angles" and your video came up.
I learned this 30 years ago in trade school but haven't had to use it in quite some time, thank you for refreshing my memory. I just used auto cad using your video to make my template and got it done. Thanks again.
I was a combination pipe welder and fitter in the offshore industry for five different oil companies and this type of information was wanted by a lot of welders that were good welders but not fitters they used to buy the templates already made up from a man out in Mexico that was sold in a welding shop out of Venice Louisiana and Matthews Louisiana templates were a high desirable thing desired by many welders who did not know this type of knowledge on how to make their own templates but having this knowledge saves you a lot of money because you can make your own templates of every type of angle before you even go off shore of course there are other tricks to take one pipe and sleeve it into another on a horizontal or any type of angle there is a trick that you can do with multiple welding rods if you don't want to draw out a template at all and it's quick and it's very fast but I don't have the time or the means here to go into that but this gentleman here that posted this video is doing welders a lot of favors here by showing them how to make their own templates especially when you go for a job where they want you to be a fitter as well as a welder I'm retired now and have been for years but I love the trade of welding and fitting
Great job this is the layout I learned in my apprenticeship and now our apprenticeship doesn't teach layout anymore they only teach how to program a burn table I'm glad you take pride in the education of our youth I hope they find this!
Thanks for a refresher course on this. I have done it before, but got stuck. Now I can walk into work in the morning with confidence and finish my layout! Thanks Again!!!
I’m 27 just learning how to weld. I decided to build a swing set out of 4 1/2” pipe for my kids. I only have a cut off saw to cut it with, which has a 45 degree angle to cut on the base. But I really wanted to make sure (because the pipe was so large) that I could lay out the correct angle on the pipe to double check where my blade laid. Thank you for the information. Feels good to learn things like this.
If you happen to see this. Couldn’t I (for time purposes in the future) wrap paper around the pipe, cut it where it meets, and then divide each half from the middle by 8 and lay out my 1/8th measurements that way?
That was old school awesome! I can see why you wouldn't want to do that for a production run of 100 fittings, but for us backyard garage fabricators? PERFECT!
Excellent step by step sequence I still teach sheet metal layout old school seems to be new school You are a excellent craftsmen and skillful sheet metal worker
Thanks, hadd to cut scaff pipe to 66 and 32 degree angle and felt pretty smart being able to use this. Felt equally stupid not remembering or seeing the use of learning this 15 years ago in school.
mohsin ali, the height is however long you need it to be. The length of the "cut" will always be the same for this angle on this size of pipe. Pipe isometric drawings are nearly all dimensioned along the centreline of the pipe.
I'm also used to using my bluebook. I think this comes in handy when working on anything under 4" pipe, you can use a better grade paper and keep it in your box for later.
For those curious when he marked the x's for the halfway point theres no set distance just make sure you dont make a mark and then change it on the second or it will be off. I learned that just now
@@t_train3796 distance the two points on the wing divider to roughly 3 quarters of the distance between points for the template. They will intersect. Just make sure it stays the same or will mess the whole thing up. Lot of trial and error
9.42" would be closer to 7/16ths, or .437". Thank you for the video, a friend and I used it this evening to lay out 12.75" dia pipe for a weird angle, all we had was a long and short measurement, no angle, but after some Keystone Kops antics, we pulled it off
It would be excellent to download a video teacher where step by step detail how to draw interferences to different degrees but in the same tube. since it would help many of the beginners in this branch
Very easy to comprehend, you do great work. When i was an Apprentice learning my trade,what happened to the formula that we were once taught ie, Mean diameter x 3.1416..??
this was very helpful. I ended up finding a calculator online bit it's great to know how to do it. What I would really like to see is how to cope square tubing to fit pipe. I have a project and I need to mate a 4x3? or 2 to a 16 inch pipe.
+MK116Alex A 4x3 to a 16" pipe will have only a slight arc to fit. i would probably make a slight cut with an abrasive blade in a 4 1/2" angle grinder and then clean it up with a grinding disc.- Dave
And could you make video on how to make mal for the main hole cover with 28 or 29 holes or etc.. for main hole,, Iam interested itu would help me much in my job,,Thankyou,,
OK, love the video and the technique, and obviously it works. But it looks to me, for the layout of the 16 segments on the long line, at 4:26, you measured not arcs, but chords which would define an inscribed polygon, which would have a shorter circumference than the circle you are working with. And yet the cut out template fits the pipe, and I can’t see why. I don’t think the 1/32 inch gap in the conclusion explains anything. Dave? Anyone?
HI Dave - Watched this several times. Your instruction is very clear. One thing I missed and haven't figured out. How did you determine the length of the initial segment you divided into 8 sections? My finished template was too short because my initial segment was too short. Thanks
I did this and I've double checked it in my total length of my total length of my template does not match but total length of my pipe I'm doing a 24" pipe Corrugated
Your taking a straight measurement with the dividers on the bottom half circle when its actually an arc. if your off by a 64TH of an inch times 16 spaces you will be short 1/4 in. just a tip from a master sheetmetal worker.
+Brent Hick the difference between the chord length and arc segment length (at 22.5 degrees) on a 3inch diameter pipe is .004inches (.585 vs .589)...it's only .007 difference on a 6inch dia pipe. As long as the correct semi-circle was drawn and divided correctly I don't see how it's going to be off by 1/4 inch? I guess that's why he said to double check the length of the line (which would be an approximate circumference) at the end to see if it was near 2(pi)r--if that measurement was off by 1/4 inch then definitely something went wrong...especially on a 3in dia pipe.
Awesome video as of right now a subscriber my only question is when laying out the drawing of the pipe how do I know the length of the pipe I understand size but I don't know the length ???
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Thank you for posting this tutorial. I asked myself "Do I have to use calculus to make a template that I could wrap around a pipe?"
I did a search "
how to make a template of 2 pipes intersecting at right angles" and your video came up.
I learned this 30 years ago in trade school but haven't had to use it in quite some time, thank you for refreshing my memory. I just used auto cad using your video to make my template and got it done. Thanks again.
AutoCad is a great skill also!!! Dave
Most shops are using software nowadays, but knowing these layout techniques give us a better foundation for our trades....
Dave Osland Hi how to make Dom had
Amen
I have been looking for information like this for a long time and here it is! Very understandable and well presented. Many, many thanks.
I learned this 35 years ago but haven't used it in awhile. Great refresher course. People be surprised at what they can learn if they listen.😊
Couldn't agree more! Dave
I was a combination pipe welder and fitter in the offshore industry for five different oil companies and this type of information was wanted by a lot of welders that were good welders but not fitters they used to buy the templates already made up from a man out in Mexico that was sold in a welding shop out of Venice Louisiana and Matthews Louisiana templates were a high desirable thing desired by many welders who did not know this type of knowledge on how to make their own templates but having this knowledge saves you a lot of money because you can make your own templates of every type of angle before you even go off shore of course there are other tricks to take one pipe and sleeve it into another on a horizontal or any type of angle there is a trick that you can do with multiple welding rods if you don't want to draw out a template at all and it's quick and it's very fast but I don't have the time or the means here to go into that but this gentleman here that posted this video is doing welders a lot of favors here by showing them how to make their own templates especially when you go for a job where they want you to be a fitter as well as a welder I'm retired now and have been for years but I love the trade of welding and fitting
Grammar is much needed my friend
He's a tradesmen, all he needs is technical know how and understanding mathematics. He couldn't care less about his GRAMMAR lol @@raulgallardo5014
Great job this is the layout I learned in my apprenticeship and now our apprenticeship doesn't teach layout anymore they only teach how to program a burn table I'm glad you take pride in the education of our youth I hope they find this!
I like every video that teaches me a new technique, even if it's really simple. Like how you divided the angles on the circle with the compass. GENIUS
you couldn't have explained this any better! Great Job!
Thanks for a refresher course on this. I have done it before, but got stuck. Now I can walk into work in the morning with confidence and finish my layout! Thanks Again!!!
Such a great video. Thank you for sharing this knowledge with the world, it's exactly what I needed to know.
I’m 27 just learning how to weld. I decided to build a swing set out of 4 1/2” pipe for my kids. I only have a cut off saw to cut it with, which has a 45 degree angle to cut on the base. But I really wanted to make sure (because the pipe was so large) that I could lay out the correct angle on the pipe to double check where my blade laid. Thank you for the information. Feels good to learn things like this.
If you happen to see this. Couldn’t I (for time purposes in the future) wrap paper around the pipe, cut it where it meets, and then divide each half from the middle by 8 and lay out my 1/8th measurements that way?
Brilliant piece of work
That was old school awesome! I can see why you wouldn't want to do that for a production run of 100 fittings, but for us backyard garage fabricators? PERFECT!
Excellent step by step sequence
I still teach sheet metal layout old school seems to be new school
You are a excellent craftsmen and skillful sheet metal worker
Your students are getting a foundation many lack that don't know these principles/techniques.
Dave
Thanks, hadd to cut scaff pipe to 66 and 32 degree angle and felt pretty smart being able to use this.
Felt equally stupid not remembering or seeing the use of learning this 15 years ago in school.
This knowledge is helping to those people which are need to learn. Thanks a lot
Very nice tutorial . I've used this method to mark sona tube before. You simplified the instructions very nicely
Thanks!
I love your video..pipe fitter from phillippines...
Thanks from the U.S.!
Thank you for sharing this knowledge! If has helped with a current job.
Thank you thank you so much Dave Osland ,. A real mentor you're amazing
Very good tutorial and such a unique technique. Thanks for imparting your skill.
securityrobot , this is not unique. This is traditional parallel line development
Thank you sir.. Excellent ezplanation.. cheers from srilanka👍
Pradeep-
Does me good to hear from people around the world!
Dave
That is very good I've learnt a lot thanks for that
Dude, well done good sir well done. Great! Video and very very helpful. Thanks for your time and knowledge.
Very clear and much undrrstood..thanks
Wow good explanation , thank you
I'm impressed, slick trick.
welder fitter this is not a trick, it is traditional parallel line development technique.
great videos while watching them i really haved learned a lot thanks a lot
Very beautiful sir you are a great teacher for me love you sir thanks for teaching.
mohsin ali, the height is however long you need it to be. The length of the "cut" will always be the same for this angle on this size of pipe. Pipe isometric drawings are nearly all dimensioned along the centreline of the pipe.
Very good information, this helped a lot, you earned the like
Wow thanks for the video helped immensely
Thanx buddy u solved my problem thanx a lot....
that was amazing thank you a lot i have watch all of you videos honestly it really helpful thanks a lot God bless you i'm very happy
instruction is very clear.,.,wow excellent sir
its so easy to understand . . . u are great sir thank u so much
Thank you! Clear and precise.
a very useful video thank you very much..
Thanks for the explanation. You can fold the sheet in half along the long line when you cut.
Your videos are very helpful ♥
Great job!!!!!
Thanks!
Superb instruction ........Thanks for your time.
well... thank you!!! Your most welcome!
When I made these layout videos, I thought only a few people would find any interest in these.....
I have watched a pipe fitter using the wrap method and a pipe fitters manual and it was far quicker and easier but your approach is interesting.
I'm also used to using my bluebook. I think this comes in handy when working on anything under 4" pipe, you can use a better grade paper and keep it in your box for later.
Pipe fitters blue book helps make this super easy.
Yep! a handy book!!
Thank you very much for your guide line.
+Faisal Mahmood
You're very welcome!
thank for making and post video, i can see and learn, thank
For those curious when he marked the x's for the halfway point theres no set distance just make sure you dont make a mark and then change it on the second or it will be off. I learned that just now
Thank you. I've been racking my brain comparing what I'm doing to him and not getting the same results.
@@t_train3796 distance the two points on the wing divider to roughly 3 quarters of the distance between points for the template. They will intersect. Just make sure it stays the same or will mess the whole thing up. Lot of trial and error
On The Job, Have Used This Many Times Nice Video Raphaeldiy
I would add glass tape onto your tracing So you can have it for a indeterminable life. Nicely explained !
Thank you for the video, good tutorials
9.42" would be closer to 7/16ths, or .437". Thank you for the video, a friend and I used it this evening to lay out 12.75" dia pipe for a weird angle, all we had was a long and short measurement, no angle, but after some Keystone Kops antics, we pulled it off
Thank you for this video, much appreciated your efforts to make it clear and concise, subscribed!
when you use this leave one side longer and overlap the wrap. on heavy wall pipe don't cut the shape and just center punch through the wrap
Thank you for sharing and I would to say, is what they call a mitering pipe method? This a great learning show you have.
Super very good 👍
Thanks for the visit
Very good
From France
Merci
Excellent information sir thanks
Thanks for the vedio itu could really help me in my carrier,,great
thanks for sharing your knowledge.
+Thamim Basha
You're most welcome! I'm getting requests for more of this type of video...
Dave
awesome instruction keep it up.. man...
Thanks!
Excelente. Método de. Triangulacion. Ok. Saludos desde veracruz
Very interesting process. Thank you for sharing. By the way, I use SolidWorks software with sheet metal option. I unfold the cut and print scale 1:1
Nice sir tq for sharing...
It would be excellent to download a video teacher where step by step detail how to draw interferences to different degrees but in the same tube. since it would help many of the beginners in this branch
Gracias de Guadalajara Mex .
Very easy to comprehend, you do great work. When i was an Apprentice learning my trade,what happened to the formula that we were once taught ie, Mean diameter x 3.1416..??
Gracias por el tutorial y muchos éxitos
very cool. Thanks you!
sir your a genius person. I like your drawing skill.thanks for replying me.
+Thamim Basha
Not a genius at all.. just took the time to learn, as anyone can!
Sir ,could you teach me a 90degree bend pipe making by four pieces drawings.
+Dave Osland cool pencil.awesome vid
+Denz m very kind of you sir.
Useful!
You dont need the compass to mark the points across. You just project the lines at 90° to the lines on 1 to 1.
this was very helpful. I ended up finding a calculator online bit it's great to know how to do it. What I would really like to see is how to cope square tubing to fit pipe. I have a project and I need to mate a 4x3? or 2 to a 16 inch pipe.
+MK116Alex
A 4x3 to a 16" pipe will have only a slight arc to fit. i would probably make a slight cut with an abrasive blade in a 4 1/2" angle grinder and then clean it up with a grinding disc.-
Dave
Thank you sir. Yeah I figured it probably wouldn't really require a template. I can be so anal at times. I think I should have been a machinist. :-)
Thank you sir
And could you make video on how to make mal for the main hole cover with 28 or 29 holes or etc.. for main hole,, Iam interested itu would help me much in my job,,Thankyou,,
Very nice
OK, love the video and the technique, and obviously it works.
But it looks to me, for the layout of the 16 segments on the long line, at 4:26, you measured not arcs, but chords which would define an inscribed polygon, which would have a shorter circumference than the circle you are working with.
And yet the cut out template fits the pipe, and I can’t see why.
I don’t think the 1/32 inch gap in the conclusion explains anything.
Dave? Anyone?
Actually it's 25 and a quarter inches Circumference is 79 and 3/4
you threw me back to high school!!! :) thanks!! where's the T square ruler??? :P
Excellent method!!
u earn a subscriber...brilliant! thanks!
Devi parlare italiano ok
what about the layout of eccentric dummy support. I want to know how to layout the eccentric dummy
Can you make a video on how to make a layout for saddle pipe? Having trouble finding a good video on how to properly explain how to do it.
Thank you good job
Good template
thank you very much friend
+Pattabhi Ram
Your welcome!
Wow, that was clear, thanks ! (Now, how do I apply this method on a 16cm diameter wood log ? *looking for a big enough piece of paper*)
2 sheets of A3 paper taped together
Very nice sar
HI Dave - Watched this several times. Your instruction is very clear. One thing I missed and haven't figured out. How did you determine the length of the initial segment you divided into 8 sections? My finished template was too short because my initial segment was too short. Thanks
I'm pretty sure the initial measure is the radius of the circle.
Darryl Braun No, it's the diameter of your pipe
I did this and I've double checked it in my total length of my total length of my template does not match but total length of my pipe I'm doing a 24" pipe Corrugated
Your taking a straight measurement with the dividers on the bottom half circle when its actually an arc. if your off by a 64TH of an inch times 16 spaces you will be short 1/4 in. just a tip from a master sheetmetal worker.
+Brent Hick the difference between the chord length and arc segment length (at 22.5 degrees) on a 3inch diameter pipe is .004inches (.585 vs .589)...it's only .007 difference on a 6inch dia pipe. As long as the correct semi-circle was drawn and divided correctly I don't see how it's going to be off by 1/4 inch? I guess that's why he said to double check the length of the line (which would be an approximate circumference) at the end to see if it was near 2(pi)r--if that measurement was off by 1/4 inch then definitely something went wrong...especially on a 3in dia pipe.
Thank you sir, Practically small bore it is worked but big bore possible?
Awesome video as of right now a subscriber my only question is when laying out the drawing of the pipe how do I know the length of the pipe I understand size but I don't know the length ???
nice video...just subscribed '
Super sir
Dave, I did not see how you got your second set of arcs I saw you adjusted the instrument but did not see what you referenced
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Can you do this same lay out for any degree?
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thank you...👍
Thank you!
very helpful.. thank u sir.. plz teach me, how to make 90degree round elbow in metal sheet?
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