How To Use a Color Checker Chart
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- How to use a color checker chart. Using the Datacolor Spyder Checkr Photo and the X-Rite ColorChecker Passport Photo 2. How to set your white balance, tonal range, create a color profile, set color balance between two different camera models, using native camera settings, and an important reminder about monitor calibration.
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📔 Table of Contents
00:00 | Important Opening Message
02:05 | Intro and Welcome
02:42 | Why Use a Color Chart?
03:10 | Review of Datacolor Spyder Checkr Photo
04:40 | How To Set Your White Balance
05:11 | How To Set Your Tonal Range
07:02 | How To Create a Color Profile
10:03 | Set Color Balance Between Two Different Camera Models
12:52 | Datacolor Spyder Checkr Photo Vs. X-Rite ColorChecker Passport
15:32 | Set White Balance Using Camera’s Settings
16:46 | Important Reminder About Monitor Calibration
18:22 | Goodbye and Outro
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Thanks everyone for watching. The audio does get better at 4:40. Cheers! 👍
I've found that FCP Voice isolation often does wonders on a sound with bg noises
@@OleksandrPakhalchuk Yeah, it's really quite good!
I barely even noticed the audio. From one perfectionist to another, you are forgiven.
Thanks for sharing. To be honnest, if you had not said anything and if the audio did not get better I would not have noticed. Not that the better sound is more pleasing, but your scratch audio, at least in this studio is pretty decent.
at 4:58 I find interesting how you pick the central tile for white balance. a lot of official X-rite videos say to use the top one (the whitest) but apparently the one to use is the second from the top, as it's the one that corresponds to the neutral grey card. go figure. quite confusing
Honestly Chris, if you’d not told us, I wouldn’t have noticed an audio issue. Didn’t sound any different in my headphones!
Great video, really useful information. Great to have you back!
Thank you for this, Chris. No worries about the audio; we’re here for the content rather than the production values. I, too, would love to know how to use the color calibration with Capture One. I noticed that the Spyder app lets you choose the output of the preset to Lightroom, Phocus or ACR. I would have no clue how to output to C1.
Would love a video on monitor calibration! Thanks for this!
Yes, yes! Please do the calibration video!
Having watched this great video several times (thanks again) and having read the user manual(!), there are two differences: (1) To set your white balance, click on the second (not third) patch in the E column (which is 20% grey). (2) To adjust the white (E1), don't move the whites slider, but move the exposure slider (to correct for wrong exp osure). Small differences, but they are the whole point of this exercise. -- And of course you don't need to spend all the money to get the right white balance. This product will actually help you to get the colors(!) right, i.e. to correct the "color science" of your camera to a standard.
Perfect is the enemy of good.
Your vids are awesome and we appreciate your hard work.
Goodness! You both raise the bar and raise the humility. Thank you so much for being real, being available to us and blessing us with these God-sent video aids. Much respect to you and everything you do. I am extremely grateful for all the content you share for us to learn from. Thank you and God bless!
PLEASE show us how to calibrate monitors, I have a work from home setup with some big monitors I want to edit photos and videos with, but my personal computer editing programs dont look great. I may not be able to fix the gamma on the work monitors. Still, it would be incredibly useful. Thank you for all you do for the community🎖️
Possibly the best calibration video I’ve ever seen! Great job.
I watch your content on a tablet, I didn't even notice any issues with the audio even after I knew about it! Thank you for the helpful video!
Monitor calibration guide would be much appreciated.
Loved your white paper trick with Fuji cameras for accurate white balance. Has worked a treat few times I’ve used it.
Great video. I’ve been thinking about these questions for years. Brilliant. Yes to monitor calibration!!!!
Is it pretty much the same process if you’re using Capture 1?
Chris, Although I am not deep into color calibration at this time, I did enjoy the video, learned some new stuff (always good), and would like to see a video on monitor calibration. BTW, great to see you are feeling better!
Btw, the audio isn’t bad at all and the content of the video is great and extremely useful !!!
Great video 👍! As a fellow TH-camr I just want to say I appreciate the amount of work you put into your videos 🎥!
Thank you so much 😊
Luv your videos. They're the real deal. So informative, so lovely and humble. They're my number 1 go to. Thank you so much💯
Thanks for... ah... illuminating... the mysteries of the color chart!
Nailed the tutorial AGAIN great explanation not only of a colour card but how to work with it in LR saved to my library of important things to know/do
Love the content. Straight fire! Thanks
This is great. I’d love to see the same video for Capture One.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Keep up the great work!!
This video was awesome! You took us time traveling 🤗🤗🤗
Yes...please do a video on monitor calibration! I bought the Spyder a while back, but somehow not getting great results...
You made this topic very easy for a beginner like me thank you.
I think everyone here would agree that your perception that your videos aren't polished enough is your personal need for "perfection". I get that. But, I also think that some of what we love is the crazy, zany, stuff falling kind of in the moment atmosphere you've had in your videos. It's very real. And, as a technology teacher I know that my students don't like my class because I'm polished or perfect for them. It's because most of the time they have a sense that the class is fun and I'm goofy. Obviously, your content and teaching a fantastic. That goes without saying. I'm just saying, don't get too polished. We like you the way you are. Have a rockin' weekend!
Another great use of a colour chart is to create colour profiles for your legacy lenses that can be dialled into editing software to take the guesswork out of balancing colour in your images. Enjoying the videos and hope you had a good break/workspace rebuild.
Chill man chill. No one is perfect no mater who they are or what they think. Mistakes are a part of life for us to learn from. Great video by the way :)
I used to worry more about this kinda stuff until a complementary lesson you gave on exposure compensation. There you pointed out how “proper” compensation would try to make almost everything look like it was in daylight. But that’s not what we are trying to capture in the moment most often, if it’s dusk, then you might need to set exposure down a stop or two. Similar with colors, it doesn’t need to be perfect, just needs to fit what you felt it looked like. All that said, being slightly colorblind does reduce once confidence when doing color adjusting without reference. I will say, compared to older Canon DSLR, Fuji out of camera colors are so much more pleasing that I rarely mess with them unless I’m processing for a print or something more serious.
great info👉🏼💪🏼💪🏼!! thanks Chris
Hi Chris I’ll watch you no matter what you mess up..please don’t stress ..tight hug ❤
As always, thanks!
Thank you for this
This technique is a must for product photography.
Thanks Chris! Yes, I would like to know better how to calibrate the monitor, your suggestions about reliable and not expensive calibrators, etc
Very valuable video! Thanks.
Thanks for this. Yes, I would like to see a video on how to use the calibration tool.
Very helpful, info starts at 2:20
Rather a video that is not perfect, than no video.
Thank you!
Thanks a lot! Of course all of this is in the user manual, but it helps a lot(!) to see it in practice. Again, thanks for all your effort, and keep up the good work.
Yes, please do a monitor calibration video; thanks
Thanks ❤ excellent video
Thank you, I had the Spyder Checker, though taken some using, have still to make use on screen an download app and too adjust screen with other tool.
I’m very much enjoying your videos. They’ve been a lot of help with my new X-T5. May I suggest a soft mat on top of your table? Every time you put down a piece of gear there’s a distracting clunk.
As per your comments, & of those viewers below, I'd like to see a video on monitor calibration. Heard a lot about doing it, but never had a detailed explanation. Mind, I've never searched very hard either.
Well that was entertainingly informative, Chris. Thanks. As it happens, a couple months ago I got an HDR monitor and M2 to edit with....SO then, I got a SpyderChecker monitor calibration tool.Some success with the video checker to adjust monitor colours. Now, getting the GH6 part of the equation, I ordered a Spydercheckr24 card... So please DO put together a tutorial on the monitor Calibration tool. Probably Davinci Resolve, will have to do... Thanks for the details...CGPT can only do so much
Hi Chris!! Yes!! Please make a video on how to calibrate the monitor…
Great video! I’d love to know more about screen calibration. I was just getting started today with that and it’s not that easy 😅
It’s just TH-cam….don’t sweat it….we love to see/hear you, whatever…❤
Good video and informative. It would've been nice to see the software for the X-Rite though, so at least we would have a comparison.
Great video. Worth pointing out that the X-Rite software generates a camera profile, the Datacolor software generates a user preset. As far as I can tell the camera profile can only be applied to images taken with that same camera, but the user preset can be applied to any image.
You did a great job in the post with that scratch audio. I'm guessing Izotope with voice isolation in Final Cut. I didn't notice until you said something. Yes, the boom mic sounds way better, but the scratch audio worked fine.
Chill out indeed. Another massively informative video. Only really getting into exploring the full potential of color grading by shooting Flog (on an XT3). This has been very helpful in learning more and taking the mystery out of the technical.
Would love if you made a video at some stage on the different powerbank (with power delivery) options that exist for Fuji cameras. Anker are not readily available here in Ireland and wonderred if other reliable brands exist that can be used in their place. But I was made to believe that using brands not specified by Fuji could pose a risk to the actual camera.
I have looked online about this, but there's a real paucity of information out there on this subject. I have an event coming up in the summer where I might be on the go for up to 12 hours shooting, so would love to find a solution that didn't involve having to carry a million little bateries with me.
Any tips on using it with Capture One please?
Yes, show us how to calibrate monitors
Chillll video Chris. Does Amazon do a deal on Storm troopers and color charts for photographers?
Thanks again! Can you show us with capture one? and the monitor calibration too? Hugs from Portugal
I'd love to see monitor calibration explained. I have a 16" Macbook Pro hooked up to a 27" BenQ monitor- both high end screens that are supposed to be great for color accuracy. But when I close the lid on the MacBook to use it in clamshell mode, the BenQ color changes drastically. So beyond simply using the color checker, how do you control for which monitor a profile is being applied to? Keep up the awesome work!
Yes, definitely make a video on the monitor calibration. I have a color checker, but it is not always convenient on outdoor shoots. Can I use the white paper since this is readily available and I can buy high quality 99% white paper very cheaply?
SEI SEMPRE UN GRANDE ANCHE SE L'AUDIO NON E' PERFETTO 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
This was an awesome video! I'm going to have to rewind and play with the custom white balance feature on my X-T5... This might be a silly question, will colour calibrating a RAW file affect black and white images greatly? Also, any advice for workflow on an iPad? [Currently don't have a computer]
Hi there
Could you please show us how to calibrate monitor. Thanks 🙏
Hi, would you recommend the Xrite photo or video one for a mix of both? Thanks!!
The sound is fine. Don't fret. Great and helpful video. And now a request for us CaptureOne users.... does the Spyder app work w/C1?
I'll actually reach out to C1 about this. I'd like to see full support in C1 for sure.
I couldn't get the DataColor one to work in C1...the software only gives you a choice of Lightroom or 'Phocus' which I believe is PhaseOne's program for their Medium format cameras.
Also, the ColorChecker makes a colour profile which resides in the profile option of Lightroom, whereas the DataColor one makes a preset which resides in the preset options.
I agree with pal2tech in that DataColor's software is clunky and rather primitive. I hope they improve it soon.
Keep us posted on C1 compatibility, Chris', and keep up your good - and much appreciated - work . . . warts 'n' all. 🙂 (Edit: Oops, 'forgot to say, can I also add my name to the request list . . . yes, please, please do the monitor calibration video!)
Last time I checked Datacolor still didn't support CaptureOne and this remains the number one complaint of using DataColor. I personally much prefer the DataColor ecosystem of devices in general, but as with most pro studios, can't switch because of this. Calibrite creates an actual ICC profile that fits seamlessly into C1. Let us know if you ever learn of any progress on DataColor's part.
Hi! Great video 👍 . I have a question though: the color checker is it necessary for street photography? I struggle in post to create some nice artistic photos but end up every single time with crap photos and was thinking maybe the color checker might help improving my editing style. Is it going to help me? Thank you for your answer if you have enough time 🙏🙏
Hi Chris, this is something I have been seeking for. I am wondering if you recommend having this if I have color vision deficiency? Most of the time I can't tell if the white balance is too yellow, also colour casts. Would this help?
any options for a more budget friendly color checker?
Question re tonal range: I used a Calibrite i1Pro2 photo spectrometer to measure the tonal ranges of several versions of the Calibrite/XRite targets. They were all about 96% L* for the white and about 9-12% for the Black. Admittedly, this was the Lab scale. How did you arrive at using the RGB values of 90% and 5-10% in lightroom? And, should I not set the whites and blacks in the target equal to what the photometer gives me for the settings?
Can i use also this when shooting video?
Regarding the prespective issue, may I ask why didn't you use the photoshop Prespective Crop tool?
I must check how to do this in Capture One
Please show us how to use the Datacolor monitor checker.
You said: "especially if you shoot in Jpeg"...... Why is that? And is n't there a lot more tolerance in tweaking white balance in RAW? Thanks for these lessons. I did learn a lot.
hi i wanna ask something, should i set my color profile on camera to adobe RGB when i gonna use the colorchekr ?
Is there a process like this that can be done in Capture One?
What about landscape work in the field?
When you set the props down on your desktop the resultant noise is jarring, ? Soft pad (wet suit material) may help?
Thanks! Did I understand correctly, this color checker does not apply to jpg files? There is no way to check color in camera jpg shooting in field?
Is this possible with Capture One?
Are there "show lab color valutes" in Capture one curves? I don't have that options
Have you tried Adobe's speech enhance tool? Might be worth a quick clip.
Will this app work with Capture 1?
is using color checker useful even if I use FujiFilm jpegs?
CHILL OUT CHRIS.. 😂 👍
Hi Chris, I have the same SpyderCHeckr Photo but the color matching squares in the Software are upside down. Further, If I rotate my image in LR before exporting it to Sypdercheckr software, the color squares in the app still don't match. Any work around for this? Note - I have changed the Mode in SpyderCheckr app to Spyder Checkr Photo as well.
Unfortunately for some reason the calibrite color checker passport doesn’t work with Fujifilm Provia profile, I noticed it only works with the other film simulations like classic chrome etc. (capture one )
For a color checker shouldn't it do more than just fix white balance? But in the example photos that's all it seems to be doing. The Canon and Fuji colors looked way different even after calibration.
Unfortunately for some reason the calibrite color checker passport doesn’t work with Fujifilm Provia profile, I noticed it only works with the other film simulations like classic chrome etc
Very useful video to raise the awareness, many thanks. To be completed by others? What about same approach/video with Capture One 23, ie with WB & smart adjustment? To specify it for each step of the workflow?
Actually, color management is embedded in my whole workflow:
I always start by a manual WB check before shooting the 1st photo of the forthcoming session, also to focus on my photography. Always shoot RAW, with either AcrosR for better composition or Nostalgic Neg w/ Fuji XT5 viewfinder/LCD. For sure, with other manual WB checks when changing light during the session.
Then, later on, when 1st editing my session w/ C1, to find the proper color depending on the subject: New WB if needed & all Fuji film sim are available in editing, plus many other possibilities). And a 10bit calibrated monitor ;-) Then jpeg exports of the 5-star, for sharing or output for the main catalog, with tags/keywords.
And for a few photos, soft proofing w/ C1 for a dedicated paper for printing, w/ its color profile for my printer ;-) Voilà
I just got the Spyder ColorCheckr24 and am using it with Camera Raw and PS. Chris talks about adjusting white and black levels to percentages, but ACR only seems to display RGB values as I move the pointer over my image. Is there a setting I've missed in ACR? I've used Bridge, ACR and PS for 14 years and never learned LR.
I think I figured this out..... DO use the LAB in ACR because the L is luminance and ranges from 0 to 100. What do you think?
I prefer the Storm Trooper skin tones from the Canon. 😜
Can i use this with jpegs ?
Thats Hot Toys Ed 209 action figure in the backgroud? 3:30
I believe Adobe looks prefers 18% gray for WB.
@pal2tech Have you tried to restore your audio with AI? "Adobe Enhance Speeche" is next level!
We're here to listen to you, not the audio 😊
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