I love that it's canon that Bowser, especially by Koopa standards, is an immaculate leader. All his minions flocked to him willingly and are beyond fiercely loyal to him, not out of fear, but out of adoration - you can just infer how horribly they were treated/lived before Bowser showed up.
If you also go by the Mario RPGs, Bowser really does appear to be a good leader. He's kind of a king of misfits, and genuinely seems to care about them. Seems like if you show him loyalty, he'll show it right back. I'm pretty sure it's stated at one point that he pays his minions well. He memorized the Goomba boot camp motto. He's willing to train his minions himself. And he *really* doesn't like it when anyone hurts his son.
It's not hard to imagin. Bowser may be evil but he's definitely lawful evil. For all his sins, he dose seem to generally care for and maintain his kingdom. His people see happy enough, he even took in the Goomba which were mushroom kingdom citizens.
Bowsers dad was such an absolute jerk to him growing up that he swore to NEVER act like that when raising Jr. He's the reason why Bowser, despite being a villain, is a great dad to his son.
@@Roark787Kinda like Doofenshmirtz. His parents were horrendous to him so instead, he went all-out and gave his kid the wonderful childhood he never got to have.
@@EricRivierelol2 we still dont even know who bower /jr's/ mother is. im still holding onto my theory that bowser jr's ink mario form is actually his true form and he was created by professor e gadd
Bowser senior was probably the worst scum this world has ever seen. Bowser may kidnap princess peach and do some other nefarious things but at least he's lawful about it. They even invited him to go go-karting. Whatever the senior was... Could have been bone chilling
*Floats down with magic wand* Bowser Jr.: Ha! Kamek: What? Bowser Jr.: You look like Peach Toadstool. Kamek: Is he cool? Bowser Jr.: Heck ya, he's cool! Kamek: I'M PEACH TOADSTOOL!
It reminds me of how often young kids will ask cops/soldiers 'Have you killed someone?' they ask it... innocently. To them 'death' is this... distant idea. They see 'killing' in video games and movies and don't make the connection to what it actually means. They often ask it excitedly. Jr. Asking 'Was he scary!?' like that has the same energy.
My take in this: Bowser's father was so evil, disgusting and ruthless that Kammek finally, after all those years of abuse and emotion, had no choice but to rebel and stop Bowser's father's reign of terror after he almost eats his own son Bowser. Resultating with Kammek erasing Bowser's memory so he doesn't carry with the trauma, in responce to this Bowser's subconscious makes him be a good father for Jr.
Everyone is so in-character in this, even Bowser going "I dunno" and just continuing his feast as if he wasn't just asked an important question. I can totally headcanon this exact exchange taking place after Bowser Jr's Journey.
@Infernape1998 No Bowser dad left him, and he is not coming back with the milk. So Bowser is like Ein and Boomstick being fatherless and only rise from a mother or foster parents.
if bowser was an adult, he would've gone against his own father, because bowser aligns dead center maybe a little to the chaotic side of the alignment chart
If you look closely, you also notice that Kamek's colors are a shade more dim whenever he thinks about Bowser's father. Quite a nice touch to show that the mere thought of him is chilling!
I gotta say, the VA did an awesome job playing Bowser Jr, the way she kept that strong Bowser tone/attitude and applied it to the voice of a tough kid. If Bowser Jr ever had a voice, I’d enjoy it sounding like this.
Bowsers dad was either a deadbeat that left his son or died shortly after Baby Bowsers birth. I personally would prefer the latter. It's sad, but I can imagine him on his deathbed, begging his most loyal retainer to keep his son safe in his absence. Kamek swearing to his lord and best friend to treasure him as he would have, tears welling up as he says it. Then, in his final moments, the previous King thanks him with a, and dies with a huge, toothy smile. Kamek, so saddened by the loss, can never bring himself to talk about him. Even all these years later.... Shit, I made myself sad.
Given Bowser's dad would have been the previous king, death is probably more likely. Mind you, since the stork delivers babies in Mario, it's entirely possible Bowser never interacted with his biological parents at all. If he _had_ biological parents. Who knows, Bowser himself probably just dialed up 1-800-KID-TIME and had the stork bring him Bowser Jr. Which incidentally would explain why Peach even entertained the idea that she was Bowser Jr.'s mother in Sunshine
The latter's my personal headcanon as well. Although I've taken it a step further, with BOTH of Bowser's biological parents being mortally wounded in the final, victorious battle of a war, and asking Kamek to look after their unhatched son being their last wish upon their deathbeds..
Look again. Kamek grabs their wrist at the question Jr asked about his grandpa being scary, and avoided answering. Kamek has some personal trauma involving Bowser’s father. Likely Kamek is the main reason Bowser is a good father, cause he taught the young Koopa King far better than their real dad did
I love the interactions people have between Junior and Kamek. You gotta remember Kamek was in charge of taking care if Bowser as a bratty toddler. He could have well quitted any time. But stayed by his side and even takes carr of Junior now. He definitively knows all the tricks. He always gave me this "Uncle caretaker" vibe.
I like to think he was acting as regent when Bowser was too young to rule. As for what happened to Grampa, he lived a life of cruelty, but he eventually bit off more than he could chew. As the old saying goes, "Live by the sword, die by the sword".
Please play a little bit closer attention to flow and pauses. There was a moment at 0:46 where clearly Bowser Jr. should pause and wait for a response... and when not getting one, he gets Kamek's attention again. It's subtle, but i almost missed the "Grabbing wrist" thing because of how quick paced that bit was.
@@grantdurdle6702 I always headcanoned that Morton Koopa Sr. was the mother of the Koopalings, and she was saddled with an unfortunate name by her own parents better suited to one of her sons.
Its totally believable that there used to be a emperor koopa who ruled over the spiked shelled greater koopas (bowsers species) through actual tyranny, a more monstrous monster than even the king koopa. Probably abandoned his son, or worse, kamak kidnapped his own kid in order to save him, then helped him grow up into the well respected and feared king of the lesser koopas. (Giving him a positive parental role that his true father probably would never. Explains why hes such a pretty good dad to jr, and surrogate father/ gaurdian figure to the koopalings.
Lord Koopa was Evil beyond Evil. So cruel was Lord Koopa, that Kamek made absolute certain that no matter what, Bowser was a better man... er, Turtle-Dragon than his father ever was.
According to the shows, Bowser's father always ran from his problems, making him a deadbeat. In "Yoshi's Island I", Kamek already adopted Bowser, so Bbowser was literally abandoned at birth, or evven as an egg.
The way Kamek grabbed his wrist but there being no scar makes me think that Bowser's father cut his hand off and Kamek had to regenerate it with magic.
Makes me think Bowser's species is just brutal and primal like some animals, with Kamek's intervention setting him to be more than just a beast--he is a real king.
Kamek, bowser’s adopted dad and most trusted right hand man. Suprised we haven’t gotten a game with a moment between those two. Jr had a great moments with him in both bowser jr’s journey and origami king, why no bowser and kamek?
Do not forget Sunshine's final scene with Bowser who is sincere with Jr. about Peach, and yes, they should deepen the adopted father/son of Bowser with Kamek :(, but as we know, Miyamoto does not like to deepen his stories or his characters (being Rosalina the character deepest in her story, at least in the main saga)
@@MusSupremeJAR03 yeah, sunshine has that great moment with jr and bowser. Honestly was my favorite moment between those two. I hope one day we may get something similar to that with kamek and bowser.
@@MusSupremeJAR03 I feel like people kinda overexaggerate Miyamoto's dislike for deep stories and characterization honestly- it's really more so just that he doesn't really see them as important and tells developers to focus on other stuff (although the specific way he does this is often misconstrued by those developers as him disliking deeper story elements, which causes them to lessen them because they don't want to piss him off)
I thought PiT's Baby Bowser was just Bowser himself from the past, not his son. Otherwise, that would mean that all this time, Bowser adopted his younger self and calls him his son...I'm confused.
Mario lore was kinda everywhere, but the Yoshi games introduced Bowser as one of the Star Children that get delivered by literal storks, if I recall. It is Nintendo's way of avoiding to explain where babies came from or to introduce parents to the main casts.
@@elweegee3575 oh shut up if u look upon google it says bowser is a orphan after his dad abounded him and wasn't a villain he was a ally for Peach when she needed him then that all changed when Mario Bowser Hates being a villain but gets forced into it By Peach Mario the Toads just because he made a mistake so Bowser give up Being a good guy and became a bad guy (WHICH IS NOT A VILLAIN) and decided to have kids to take care of and love so Shut The FU- UP RN OR I WILL beat ur ass
Bowser is honestly a good king and father, he just has a weird stalker crush on the leader of the mushroom kingdom. This also reminds me that there is a theory about Bowser being attracted to women who portray mother like qualities.
What do we know about Bowser's father... Only from two comic stories: he is wanted by the law (and bowser wishes to see in on the "Mushroom Kingdom most Wanted" TV show) and his motto was "no problem is too big if you can run away from it" Other than that, in a Yoshi's Island manga, we see a looming shadow in Bowser's palace that is believed to be Bowser's father but it's later revealed to be Raphael the Raven with a mask by the king's order (I need to check it again, tho)
Personality-wise... I'm thinking uptight and strict. If something wasn't perfect, it would be dealt with until nothing was wrong. Like a parent slapping their child's wrist with a ruler at the most minor annoyance.
I always imagined Bowser’s father as looking like his son physically. But rather than looking like a bigger version of a normal koopa, he looked like one of metallic knight koopa’s we’ve seen in the paper mario games. With him being a completely brutal physical fighter with little magic ability in comparison to his son. With that trait coming from bowser’s mother side, which after he was overthrown (which caused the shattering of Lord koopa’s kingdom) the magic koopa’s were to raise bowser. Getting help from the shashala empire with recuited shy guys during yoshi’s island.
The fact that Kamek grabs his wrist like that is very telling... Bowser's father must've been terrible! I darned well hope that the father of the Mario Bros. flung that lizard into the lava. 😄I mean, where there's an evil fire-breathing lizard, there has to be someone trying to stop him, right? But given that Yoshi's Island was a game that happened; I wonder if Mario's dad survived the battle against that Bowser's father... 🤔 Just saying; so much theorizing fuel in this one alone.
One where we could potentially have flashbacks with gameplay from the perspective of Bowser (I liked being able to play as Bowser in Bowser's inside story) or possibly Kamek depending on what the exact storyline is. It would allow for a nice change of pace controlling a different character for a small arc of the story. And since this topic might be a fairly central topic in this game, foreshadowing an encounter and even final boss fight against Bowser's dad would allow the player to fight using Bowser and/or Kamek, which could get them some closure and move on from that past. While the theme itself would probably have to be pretty subdued as it is still in essence a Mario game (and Nintendo won't allow any heavy emotional developments to happen as of now), it would be an absolute blast to be able to play something like this.
Could be a Mario And Luigi type game, like Bowser's Inside Story, where the Tyrant Koopa returns, overthrowing his son, and sets his sights on the Mushroom Kingdom next. Bowser escapes and goes to the Mushroom Kingdom to ask for help defeating his tyrant father, Mario and Luigi reluctantly agree. the game is the trio working together to unseat King Koopa from his Usurper's throne, and get back to the Status Quo
Bowser Lore: Bowser's parents either died, or left him. Kamek either was Dad Bowser's butler and raised little Bowser, or created Bowser. (Kamek probably not created Bowser, but that's just a theory.) Bowser was teaches in the arts of MAGIC by Kamek. Bowser was trained into being the king of Koopas. Goombas started leaving the Mushroom Kingdom and joined Bowser's army, because they thought of having better lives there, instead of being stuck as a soft, weak peacful race. Bowser started having feelings for Peach. Mario and Luigi enters the Mushroom Kingdom for the first time, in forever, and decided to foil Bowser's plans, because of the rumors of the Toads, and the familarness of hearing Bowser's name. Time flies, and Bowser adopts the Koopalings, and raises them, like a loving father, hoping to beat Mario at his own game. After multiple losses, Bowser decides to create Bowser Jr. by using MAGIC, raising him like a father, and giving Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings the best he can. Bowser, Bowser Jr., and the Koopalings fight Mario and Pals, but eventually lose.
I can't help but headcanon that Bowser's dad in this comic was more like the Bowser from the animated Super Mario Bros. movie that abused his own troops (crushing Kamek's fingers with a piano cover, roasting his minions into skeletons without hesitation for asking questions, dropping prisoners into lava, etc.).
Bowser does have a brother though. His brother is dead, but he still plays mario party with him. (His brother is from TLL/Japanese Mario 2. He is also a smash skin, and dry bowser in the spinoffs.
Judging how Kamik completely changed the subject when Jr asked how he was like I’d say he was pretty abusive. Bowser is more of a cartoon bad guy but I have a feeling his dad was legit evil.
Now this is interesting Kamek seemed to be the only one taking care of Bowser back when he was little,Bowser's Father however wasn't there at all though Where the fudge has he been all this time Bowser's a better father than even his own father
Apparently, according to some of the comics that show King Koopa instead of Bowser (I know that Bowser is technically King Koopa, but), his dad was ran out of the kingdom. That means, if we can use it for Bowser, his dad was so bad, he was ran out of the kingdom. He was the king, and he was so bad the civilians chased him out. That says something
I love that it's canon that Bowser, especially by Koopa standards, is an immaculate leader.
All his minions flocked to him willingly and are beyond fiercely loyal to him, not out of fear, but out of adoration - you can just infer how horribly they were treated/lived before Bowser showed up.
If you also go by the Mario RPGs, Bowser really does appear to be a good leader. He's kind of a king of misfits, and genuinely seems to care about them. Seems like if you show him loyalty, he'll show it right back.
I'm pretty sure it's stated at one point that he pays his minions well. He memorized the Goomba boot camp motto. He's willing to train his minions himself. And he *really* doesn't like it when anyone hurts his son.
@@Gabriel-oq8gsNot to mention he also has adopted like a bunch of other kids out of the goodness of his heart.
Plot twist: grandpa was so evil even Bowser would hate him
Considering Kamek was the one who had to raise Bowser, that actually makes sense.
It's not hard to imagin.
Bowser may be evil but he's definitely lawful evil.
For all his sins, he dose seem to generally care for and maintain his kingdom. His people see happy enough, he even took in the Goomba which were mushroom kingdom citizens.
That's kinda my idea for a future piece of mario media
Bowsers dad was such an absolute jerk to him growing up that he swore to NEVER act like that when raising Jr. He's the reason why Bowser, despite being a villain, is a great dad to his son.
@@Roark787Kinda like Doofenshmirtz. His parents were horrendous to him so instead, he went all-out and gave his kid the wonderful childhood he never got to have.
The fact that Kamek avoided the question and rubbed his wrist....
you know somethings spooty when some 1 resorts to distracting a kid with ice cream
he’s the wholesome grandpa
Reminded me of someone else
The idea that bowser’s father is way worse than bowser is terrifying. At least bowser cherishes his family. I bet bowser’s father didn’t.
that's why he lefted them the real question is who is Bowser's Mother?
@@EricRivierelol2the same mother Bowser Jr has probably... Miyomoto
@@Brolylomaniac dude, wtd? o.0
@@EricRivierelol2 we still dont even know who bower /jr's/ mother is. im still holding onto my theory that bowser jr's ink mario form is actually his true form and he was created by professor e gadd
@@MegaMegajenniferI mean the Stork also exists
The fact Kamek grabs their own wrist when Junior is talking about Lord Koopa is _very telling._
Indeed it’s telling
...he must've been _very_ abusive
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 or something tragic happened.
Yess
He was probably neglected considering we only see baby bowser in a room in his very own castle alone in the middle of nowhere (Yoshi's island)
Kamek's body language speaks volumes. Whoever Bowser's past father was he must have been a true monster.
Bowser senior was probably the worst scum this world has ever seen.
Bowser may kidnap princess peach and do some other nefarious things but at least he's lawful about it. They even invited him to go go-karting.
Whatever the senior was... Could have been bone chilling
probably bowser's dad looked like final smash bowser
Kamek: he might've been your grandfather, but he wasn't your grand daddy
Kamek: He'd make Dennis Graham look like a positive role model.
I understood that reference.
GRAND DAD!?
*Floats down with magic wand*
Bowser Jr.: Ha!
Kamek: What?
Bowser Jr.: You look like Peach Toadstool.
Kamek: Is he cool?
Bowser Jr.: Heck ya, he's cool!
Kamek: I'M PEACH TOADSTOOL!
R.I.P. Yondu
Hits harder when you realize the line “was he scary?” Has a much darker implication than that of a typical villain.
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It reminds me of how often young kids will ask cops/soldiers 'Have you killed someone?' they ask it... innocently. To them 'death' is this... distant idea. They see 'killing' in video games and movies and don't make the connection to what it actually means. They often ask it excitedly. Jr. Asking 'Was he scary!?' like that has the same energy.
My take in this: Bowser's father was so evil, disgusting and ruthless that Kammek finally, after all those years of abuse and emotion, had no choice but to rebel and stop Bowser's father's reign of terror after he almost eats his own son Bowser.
Resultating with Kammek erasing Bowser's memory so he doesn't carry with the trauma, in responce to this Bowser's subconscious makes him be a good father for Jr.
“Before he eats his own son Bowser”
We almost got Bowser’s Dad’s Inside Story
We never really get an explanation for bowsers fury mode, maybe his dad was ALWAYS like fury bowser, a relentless giant killing machine
@@superwolf371 oh man yeah, like that's his natural state but kamek's magic supresses it
why did i get cronos vibes from this?
@@killerninja4416 I was about to say the same thing 😭
Everyone is so in-character in this, even Bowser going "I dunno" and just continuing his feast as if he wasn't just asked an important question. I can totally headcanon this exact exchange taking place after Bowser Jr's Journey.
The reason Bowser doesn't remember his father was because he was so evil he abandoned his son.
He didn’t abandoned Bowser, he just went to get milk
@Infernape1998 No Bowser dad left him, and he is not coming back with the milk. So Bowser is like Ein and Boomstick being fatherless and only rise from a mother or foster parents.
@@Twilight17Petkoton It was just a really big bottle of milk.
0:42-0:49 He did worse than that judging by Kamek's PTSD flashback here.
if bowser was an adult, he would've gone against his own father, because bowser aligns dead center maybe a little to the chaotic side of the alignment chart
If you look closely, you also notice that Kamek's colors are a shade more dim whenever he thinks about Bowser's father. Quite a nice touch to show that the mere thought of him is chilling!
It's nice to see Kamek actually getting some respect.
Yes! He's one of my favourite characters from Mario.
I’m pretty sure Junior is maturing, he was bratty years prior, but, he’s been growing, albeit not physically quite yet. But, his mind certainly is.
Kamek is vital to the games, and Bowser. But he gets so little attention.
His dad was scary, but not the kind of scary your father is. He was... Horrifying.
Not the kind of scary Jr should aspire to be.
So you’re saying his biological father was an abusive A##hole right?
I gotta say, the VA did an awesome job playing Bowser Jr, the way she kept that strong Bowser tone/attitude and applied it to the voice of a tough kid. If Bowser Jr ever had a voice, I’d enjoy it sounding like this.
Bowser Jr's VA here! Thank you so much for your lovely comment! Made my day, for sure! 😊
Bowser II did have a voice in his debut during "Super Mario Sunshine".
Kamek is best dad and best grandpa.
agreed
Bowsers dad was either a deadbeat that left his son or died shortly after Baby Bowsers birth. I personally would prefer the latter. It's sad, but I can imagine him on his deathbed, begging his most loyal retainer to keep his son safe in his absence. Kamek swearing to his lord and best friend to treasure him as he would have, tears welling up as he says it. Then, in his final moments, the previous King thanks him with a, and dies with a huge, toothy smile. Kamek, so saddened by the loss, can never bring himself to talk about him. Even all these years later....
Shit, I made myself sad.
Given Bowser's dad would have been the previous king, death is probably more likely.
Mind you, since the stork delivers babies in Mario, it's entirely possible Bowser never interacted with his biological parents at all. If he _had_ biological parents. Who knows, Bowser himself probably just dialed up 1-800-KID-TIME and had the stork bring him Bowser Jr.
Which incidentally would explain why Peach even entertained the idea that she was Bowser Jr.'s mother in Sunshine
@@brolytriplethreatis it king koopa? that was a old bowser?
The latter's my personal headcanon as well. Although I've taken it a step further, with BOTH of Bowser's biological parents being mortally wounded in the final, victorious battle of a war, and asking Kamek to look after their unhatched son being their last wish upon their deathbeds..
Look again. Kamek grabs their wrist at the question Jr asked about his grandpa being scary, and avoided answering. Kamek has some personal trauma involving Bowser’s father.
Likely Kamek is the main reason Bowser is a good father, cause he taught the young Koopa King far better than their real dad did
I love the interactions people have between Junior and Kamek. You gotta remember Kamek was in charge of taking care if Bowser as a bratty toddler. He could have well quitted any time. But stayed by his side and even takes carr of Junior now. He definitively knows all the tricks. He always gave me this "Uncle caretaker" vibe.
I like to think he was acting as regent when Bowser was too young to rule. As for what happened to Grampa, he lived a life of cruelty, but he eventually bit off more than he could chew. As the old saying goes, "Live by the sword, die by the sword".
Please play a little bit closer attention to flow and pauses. There was a moment at 0:46 where clearly Bowser Jr. should pause and wait for a response... and when not getting one, he gets Kamek's attention again. It's subtle, but i almost missed the "Grabbing wrist" thing because of how quick paced that bit was.
His grandfather started the old saying, "He who koops and runs away, lives to koop another day!" (This was in the context of child support).
“But how’s Bowser going to get an education?”
“Don’t worry, I don’t think he’ll live that long”
Now we need a comic Kamek serving under Bower's dad.
It’s most likely the fan made character. “Morton Koopa Sr.”
@@grantdurdle6702 I always headcanoned that Morton Koopa Sr. was the mother of the Koopalings, and she was saddled with an unfortunate name by her own parents better suited to one of her sons.
@@RoninCatholic it’s more of a HE than a SHE
Read more of Kairy's comics! They have a lot of lore on their background for Kamek and Bowser, as well as their fancharacters :3
Bowser Jr: “Hey Kamek, can I ask you a question?”
Kamek: “You just did…”
*you didnt have to cut me off!* 😅
Its totally believable that there used to be a emperor koopa who ruled over the spiked shelled greater koopas (bowsers species) through actual tyranny, a more monstrous monster than even the king koopa. Probably abandoned his son, or worse, kamak kidnapped his own kid in order to save him, then helped him grow up into the well respected and feared king of the lesser koopas. (Giving him a positive parental role that his true father probably would never. Explains why hes such a pretty good dad to jr, and surrogate father/ gaurdian figure to the koopalings.
what makes that worse is that Emperor Koopa probably didn't care, beyond it being the loss of his heir, who he likely viewed as expendable
Lord Koopa was Evil beyond Evil. So cruel was Lord Koopa, that Kamek made absolute certain that no matter what, Bowser was a better man... er, Turtle-Dragon than his father ever was.
It’s natural for a kid to have questions about their family, and Bowser Jr’s no different.
Not scary, not a king.... But just plain evil
That is so cute yet so sad. Kamek just wants them both to be happy.
Kamek changes the subject with ice cream. The diversion works. For now.
According to the shows, Bowser's father always ran from his problems, making him a deadbeat. In "Yoshi's Island I", Kamek already adopted Bowser, so Bbowser was literally abandoned at birth, or evven as an egg.
Bowser's dad would be the equivalent to a SATAM eggman in the mario universe
The way Kamek grabbed his wrist but there being no scar makes me think that Bowser's father cut his hand off and Kamek had to regenerate it with magic.
Makes me think Bowser's species is just brutal and primal like some animals, with Kamek's intervention setting him to be more than just a beast--he is a real king.
Kamek, bowser’s adopted dad and most trusted right hand man. Suprised we haven’t gotten a game with a moment between those two. Jr had a great moments with him in both bowser jr’s journey and origami king, why no bowser and kamek?
Do not forget Sunshine's final scene with Bowser who is sincere with Jr. about Peach, and yes, they should deepen the adopted father/son of Bowser with Kamek :(, but as we know, Miyamoto does not like to deepen his stories or his characters (being Rosalina the character deepest in her story, at least in the main saga)
@@MusSupremeJAR03 yeah, sunshine has that great moment with jr and bowser. Honestly was my favorite moment between those two. I hope one day we may get something similar to that with kamek and bowser.
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 I hope too
@@MusSupremeJAR03 I feel like people kinda overexaggerate Miyamoto's dislike for deep stories and characterization honestly- it's really more so just that he doesn't really see them as important and tells developers to focus on other stuff (although the specific way he does this is often misconstrued by those developers as him disliking deeper story elements, which causes them to lessen them because they don't want to piss him off)
Ohhh...my heart...but...hey that make More sense, Kamek literally Take care of him....Which mean Kamek was Originally the Mage of Bowser father
I just thought Bowser’s biological dad died, when he was born. Why else is Baby Bowser’s face on the castle in Partners In Time, and not his dad’s?
oh.
my.
GOD!
that makes sense
That made so much sense when I played the game!
That or Kamek was a minion of Bowser’s dad and he took Bowser and ran
It could also be that he abandoned bowser, making him want something or someone that he doesn't have, which would make a ton of sense
I thought PiT's Baby Bowser was just Bowser himself from the past, not his son. Otherwise, that would mean that all this time, Bowser adopted his younger self and calls him his son...I'm confused.
Fact: Baby Bowser and Kamek are rivals of Yoshi in the Yoshi games.
Mario lore was kinda everywhere, but the Yoshi games introduced Bowser as one of the Star Children that get delivered by literal storks, if I recall. It is Nintendo's way of avoiding to explain where babies came from or to introduce parents to the main casts.
The voice you gave Kamek really suits him!
he sounds like an old lady
Aye, but his laugh in the games sounds quite like this voice.
@@Aleena_Bina_Kosimo ohh O.O
This is so wholesome! Who knew Bowser's son would lead to heartwarming moments with the big baddy
Bowser may have did some bad things but he is not a villain he is like a bad guy who cares about his family
@@EricRivierelol2Is a villain and point final.
Not turn bowser into the true hero.
@@elweegee3575 oh shut up if u look upon google it says bowser is a orphan after his dad abounded him and wasn't a villain he was a ally for Peach when she needed him then that all changed when Mario Bowser Hates being a villain but gets forced into it By Peach Mario the Toads just because he made a mistake so Bowser give up Being a good guy and became a bad guy (WHICH IS NOT A VILLAIN) and decided to have kids to take care of and love so Shut The FU- UP RN OR I WILL beat ur ass
Bowser is honestly a good king and father, he just has a weird stalker crush on the leader of the mushroom kingdom. This also reminds me that there is a theory about Bowser being attracted to women who portray mother like qualities.
Bowser Jr's voice is honestly perfect.
❤😊
What do we know about Bowser's father... Only from two comic stories: he is wanted by the law (and bowser wishes to see in on the "Mushroom Kingdom most Wanted" TV show) and his motto was "no problem is too big if you can run away from it"
Other than that, in a Yoshi's Island manga, we see a looming shadow in Bowser's palace that is believed to be Bowser's father but it's later revealed to be Raphael the Raven with a mask by the king's order (I need to check it again, tho)
he sounds like a deadbeat -_-
Huh, we were really wondering what Bowser's father looks like. Maybe he was way more terrifying and vicious like Bowser is.
What you want to bet that Bowser’s dad looks like Giga Bowser.
Yeah, with extra spikes on his shell, and is more scaly and has longer fangs. May even breathe blue fire. A Kaiju of a Koopa.
he looks like King Koopa from The Super Mario Bros. Super Show
Personality-wise... I'm thinking uptight and strict. If something wasn't perfect, it would be dealt with until nothing was wrong. Like a parent slapping their child's wrist with a ruler at the most minor annoyance.
Kamek: He'd make Dennis Graham look like a positive role model.
meet the koopas
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...so clearly I live under a rock-
I always imagined Bowser’s father as looking like his son physically. But rather than looking like a bigger version of a normal koopa, he looked like one of metallic knight koopa’s we’ve seen in the paper mario games.
With him being a completely brutal physical fighter with little magic ability in comparison to his son. With that trait coming from bowser’s mother side, which after he was overthrown (which caused the shattering of Lord koopa’s kingdom) the magic koopa’s were to raise bowser. Getting help from the shashala empire with recuited shy guys during yoshi’s island.
The fact that Kamek grabs his wrist like that is very telling... Bowser's father must've been terrible! I darned well hope that the father of the Mario Bros. flung that lizard into the lava. 😄I mean, where there's an evil fire-breathing lizard, there has to be someone trying to stop him, right? But given that Yoshi's Island was a game that happened; I wonder if Mario's dad survived the battle against that Bowser's father... 🤔 Just saying; so much theorizing fuel in this one alone.
Oh, damn...
Jump Man probably did, after he got through with Kranky Kong (the OG Donkey Kong)
Am I the only one who was fully expecting Kamek to open up the book at the end and look at a picture of baby Bowser with Grand Dad?
Kamek is such a good parent to jr
His father was the first Hammer Bro you ever experience. Truly horrifying
Bowser Jr.: If you’re Granddad, who’s Grand Dad?
Kamek: Believe me, the world was not ready for Mario 7.
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People here act as if it tells Bowser's dad was a bad parent. It does not. No one would call him a parent to begin with.
Bowers dad was such a mage tyrant that Bower himself made a law punishable by death to never say his name or speak of his acts.
This feels like a concept for an Alphadream game that we'll never get, what if Bowser's father returns to take over the mushroom kingdom?
One where we could potentially have flashbacks with gameplay from the perspective of Bowser (I liked being able to play as Bowser in Bowser's inside story) or possibly Kamek depending on what the exact storyline is. It would allow for a nice change of pace controlling a different character for a small arc of the story. And since this topic might be a fairly central topic in this game, foreshadowing an encounter and even final boss fight against Bowser's dad would allow the player to fight using Bowser and/or Kamek, which could get them some closure and move on from that past.
While the theme itself would probably have to be pretty subdued as it is still in essence a Mario game (and Nintendo won't allow any heavy emotional developments to happen as of now), it would be an absolute blast to be able to play something like this.
Could be a Mario And Luigi type game, like Bowser's Inside Story, where the Tyrant Koopa returns, overthrowing his son, and sets his sights on the Mushroom Kingdom next. Bowser escapes and goes to the Mushroom Kingdom to ask for help defeating his tyrant father, Mario and Luigi reluctantly agree.
the game is the trio working together to unseat King Koopa from his Usurper's throne, and get back to the Status Quo
Bowser Lore:
Bowser's parents either died, or left him.
Kamek either was Dad Bowser's butler and raised little Bowser, or created Bowser. (Kamek probably not created Bowser, but that's just a theory.)
Bowser was teaches in the arts of MAGIC by Kamek.
Bowser was trained into being the king of Koopas.
Goombas started leaving the Mushroom Kingdom and joined Bowser's army, because they thought of having better lives there, instead of being stuck as a soft, weak peacful race.
Bowser started having feelings for Peach.
Mario and Luigi enters the Mushroom Kingdom for the first time, in forever, and decided to foil Bowser's plans, because of the rumors of the Toads, and the familarness of hearing Bowser's name.
Time flies, and Bowser adopts the Koopalings, and raises them, like a loving father, hoping to beat Mario at his own game.
After multiple losses, Bowser decides to create Bowser Jr. by using MAGIC, raising him like a father, and giving Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings the best he can.
Bowser, Bowser Jr., and the Koopalings fight Mario and Pals, but eventually lose.
Then they all go Go-Karting
I can't help but headcanon that Bowser's dad in this comic was more like the Bowser from the animated Super Mario Bros. movie that abused his own troops (crushing Kamek's fingers with a piano cover, roasting his minions into skeletons without hesitation for asking questions, dropping prisoners into lava, etc.).
I like how Bowser Jr sounds like Lloyd. Gives me a new headcanon voice for him
Wonder what Kamic is hiding.
I need more to this story.
Bowser does have a brother though. His brother is dead, but he still plays mario party with him. (His brother is from TLL/Japanese Mario 2. He is also a smash skin, and dry bowser in the spinoffs.
Kamek is a great step-grand dad to bower jr.
This is wholesome 😊
Kamek is a very great grandfather.
i swear bro the mario and koopa bloodline have been at war since forever
The television shows do speak of Bowser's father. Apparently, his motto was something about how running away was always the option to take.
perfect deflection, Kamek.
This makes me so happy. Even villains can have their wholesome moments.
You know what? I’m just gonna say it, they don’t want to talk about Koopa Double Senior.
Either he was wholesome, or abusive.
Judging how Kamik completely changed the subject when Jr asked how he was like I’d say he was pretty abusive. Bowser is more of a cartoon bad guy but I have a feeling his dad was legit evil.
Any man can be a father but it takes a real man to be a Dad
Bowser doesn’t know about King Koopa because koop’d to koop another koop the coward
Now all we need is a Koopa troopa in the group and we’ll be complete 🐢
“HES A DOLL DUDE”
hE’s NoT a DoLl, JoSePh!!!
Bowser: I don’t usually talk about my father when the time comes I’ll tell Junior
Plot twist, Kamek is the reason Bowser doesn't remember.
I just got recommend this and oh my god Kamek is precious 😭
We know why bowsers is such a good father and that’s because he needs had one
I can’t believe Ash Ketchum voiced Bowser Jr
Or maybe Bowser's dad just went to get the milk, we'll never know.
I always imaged Bowser's father to have caused countless losses and cases of insanity trying to Conquer the mushroom kingdom.
classic grandpa move: dodge difficult questions with treats 😂
why wasn’t Koopa Troopa there?
he would’ve completed the whole set
Bowser's dad made him evil, and Biwser hates his dad.
Wait, why am I crying?
I know that there all villains but god the koopa family is the best fictional family ever
Koopa: your grandpa know about the curse of darkness
Not the step dad, but the dad who stepped up
I think his dad died a few years after Bowser was born
Kamek is so sweet.
Bowser is the best dad and Kamek is the best grandfather
i love how voiced Kamek! cute!!
Now this is interesting
Kamek seemed to be the only one taking care of Bowser back when he was little,Bowser's Father however wasn't there at all though
Where the fudge has he been all this time
Bowser's a better father than even his own father
why do I get the feeling it's something tragic?
The fact that Kamek grabbed his wrist is kinda concerning, not gonna lie Bowser's dad was probably pretty bad.
That is a genuinely solid Bowser Jr impression
Apparently, according to some of the comics that show King Koopa instead of Bowser (I know that Bowser is technically King Koopa, but), his dad was ran out of the kingdom. That means, if we can use it for Bowser, his dad was so bad, he was ran out of the kingdom. He was the king, and he was so bad the civilians chased him out. That says something
I wish we knew who was Bowser's actual dad in the game good Comic
We don't know anything about Grand-Bowser.
Even when we went to when Bowser was a kid.
Which makes him a whole other level of evil.
My assumption was it was gonna be King Koopa from the Mario Brothers Super Show
That's what I thought too. King koopa was more evil and cowardly and desired to do more harm to the princess then bowser would never do.
GRAND DAD!
I guess Bowser must not like his actual father.
"Was he scary, like Dad?"
"... No, Prince Junior. *Nothing* like your father."
I Cant see these Jr And Kamek together without getting flash backs of sml also great video
Sometimes, I think about Yoshi’s Island with Bowser and Mario using time travel.
Jr and Cody talking pov