Well done. I don’t think the DR1 was designed for windy conditions, but you got it back in one piece. The ailerons would feel anemic in that situation, with so much wing area for the wind to grab. Definitely a fair weather plane.
Great remaiden Cliff, I thought you were very brave to maiden her in the wind!! But you must be very proud to get a successful flight of such a beautiful and expertly built plane!! Looked stunning on the ground and in the air, a pleasure to watch 😀👍
Great 2nd maiden flight, Cliff. Check if your receiver or servos are faulty. Those Fokker DR1'S were always tail heavy and tricky to fly. Even my previous Guillows Fokker DR1 I built back in the year 2000 didn't fly well with rubber band power. So I just hung it up from the ceiling because it would fly straight up and drop out of flight and fall to the ground. As usual, my mother broke it! She breaks all my models even when I didn't live at her house!
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I have another Guillows FOKKER DR1 kit in my collection. I wish I could take a picture of my collection for you to see, but TH-cam doesn't have that option as like FaceBook does. I am 56 years old turning 57 this year. I've been sick, but better. I've had 3 major surgeries in the past 1 1/2 years for Adominal reconstructive surgeries from botched surgeries from the year 2009. Plus I suffer from Charcott Marrie Tooth Disease(C.M.T.). It is a slowly progressive degenerative nerve disease with no cure as like Muscular Distraphy. I am just tired all the time and in pain 24/7 with pins and needles sensations and lack of strength. I love model building, but I am tired from driving with UBER and the disease. I hope you can understand me, Mate. "CHEERS, CLIFF!"
@Richard Browne Sorry to hear that Richard, it's the pits to be poorly, I'm very lucky, I work in the health sector and am grateful for every day I can walk back to the car to drive home. If you can take a photo you can always use my TH-cam registered email address, take care mate 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes It's alright, Cliff. I live better than some people and worse off than other people. It's just nice that you reply back to me like a friend and share simular interest.😉 Thank you for the Email address! "CHEERS!"
Surprising that it wants to turn right, but not so much left. It may have a little too much right thrust if there are no warps in wings. Model may be easier to fly with rudder/aileron mix, with a fair amount of rudder throw. Remember that you can over-ride amount of rudder throw with rudder stick when/if you need more throw. A little more nose weight may help but model will have a tendency to go nose up with high throttle settings, needing down trim or hold down elevator for "high speed passes". Flight looked pretty good overall, congratulations!!
I think I added to much right thrust Gary, easily fixed though. I have mix on the rudder and aileron but I'll increase it a bit. I love the image of high speed passes, thanks for painting that, cheers.
Beautiful take off Cliff. Landing was good considering the wind...which also makes it hard to tell in flight if what you're feeling is the plane or wind. With my old DR1 the ailerons were good for rolls but thats about it...lol. Definitely a rudder plane. Congratulations Cliff...I know you'll get her dialed in.
The Dr.1 arrived in one piece, on a rather windy re-maiden. I'd call that a win Cliff. Check the CG, then another flight on a less challenging day. Well done on the second flight.
Hi Jo, thanks, I've been waiting for the wind to drop below double figures but I took a chance and it worked out ok although I didn't learn much of her finer handling qualities. A good day for a maiden on the slope though, cheers.
I've enjoyed following your adventure. So exciting to see it fly and land in one piece! I just picked up the Sopwith Camel in the same size. Thanks for the inspiration.
Hi Jim, thanks. What make is the Camel, I have the Hangar 9 which I converted to electric, here's a video of it flying th-cam.com/video/mg85mUGHh3Q/w-d-xo.html, cheers.
Congratulations! There's some audible relief in your commentary, you can really pat yourself on the back. Nice landing, too, shame the groundsmen didn't keep the lawn in trim. :D I sort of expected low ailerons performance, bi- and triplanes where mostly flown with rudder and elevator while the ailerons helped to coordinate the turns. Plus Koala is right, the wind loves to grab those triple wings' surface and the ailerons can't profit from the prop's thrust like the empennage. Now on to the fine tuning. You'll do a marvelous job, I'm sure. Cheers!
Definitely a success. Maybe a little less right motor angle...and a little nose weight 🤔 Looks lovely up there though! Well done! Looking at the windsock, you would have expected it to get pushed slightly to the left. The fact that she still turned right would indicate a little too much right thrust angle. 😉😊
Buenos dias Cliff. !!! Felicitaciones el vuelo dr1. Es como un cometa. Aqui en colonia volo uno, poquito mas grande con glow. Pero la misma vista al despegue. Muchos vuelos más, saludos y felicitaciones.
Hola Jorge, se ven bastante impresionantes despegando y en el aire. El próximo vuelo la traeré un poco más abajo, gracias por comentar, espero que el traductor de Google haga un trabajo razonable con las palabras, saludos 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes si Cliff clarito . asi te entiendo y tu a mí. Lo unico con los videos no entiendo. El dr.1 con sus tres alas hace efecto especial. A la vista. Muy bueno.
@@jorgerostagnol3602 Estoy hablando de lo que está haciendo y lo que estoy haciendo para corregirlo, lo convierte en un video más interesante que simplemente volar. Algún día los subtítulos automáticos estarán en su propio idioma, saludos Jorge
Thanks Nick, I'm not sure what you mean regarding the ailerons? The following flights will get lower, the conditions and earlier first flight dictated some altitude but it was important to video the flight nonetheless, cheers.
Well done Cliff. Always harder to fly a challenge. Final approach was lovely! Maybe reduce the right thrust a tad, increase the up-aileron travel, set up a switch that links aileron and rudder? Looking forward to part three!
Thanks for the tips David, right thrust will be reduced, I have differential already on the ailerons but I can increase that, and a switch is already done but I'm thinking of adding more rudder into the mix, cheers.
When a dr-1 is a bit top heavy it will turn on it's own like that. Nose weight will help allot. I have heard experienced dr-1 rc pilots say you almost allways need to add nose weight. With the real deal Dr-1 they did not have the top heavy issues and did not so much need nose weight added to the lower or underside of the cowl area, preferably inside the planes nose😳👌😍. Because the real thing had the heavy steel motor up front of the tiny light weight fighter. Great to see your flight went really quite well with her. Fairly standard landing for a dr-1 especially with the wind up a bit. Cheers Cliff.
Are your flying buddies beginning to treat you like a celebrity yet? Your videos are well done and entertaining. I have been enjoying watching "Vice Grips Garage" videos, also entertaining.
Fantastic maiden, have found on Biplanes all ailerons do is tilt the plane left or right and the rudder is where all the turning happens. In those kind of winds your fighting all the drag of the wings and wing supports. Looks great in the air, Well done Cliff, Jeff in LA USA
I have a Tiger Moth (ailerons on the bottom wing) and it turns beautifully on the ailerons only. I wonder if it's the ailerons being on the top wing that reduces their effect 🤔 just a thought. Or possibly the size of the ailerons on the Dr1 relative to the combined wing area of the 3 wings 🤔
The ailerons aren't massive and well out of the slipsteam buys, I have a couple of biplanes with full-span ailerons just on the lower wings and they work really well. The Fokker does have dihedral, not a lot, but the original had none!
A nice flight, my other Dr1 banks right as well and I note that Tim`s banks right too, and so I suspect the real thing did. I have to apologise as I have not had time to watch videos, work and life get in the way. Just started a new project at work and its taking up a lot of my concentration.
Hi Nick, life has a habit of doing that, I think the full-size machine was very good at turning torque left and was the direction of choice in combat 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I think you are right, I am trying to recall what direction my bang wood turns, I think right???? But I have decided to link the rudder with the ailerons for the maiden, I can see that just ailerons for this aircraft is not enough.
Cliff. I fly a 3/4 scale airdrome aero planes kits and I’ve built and flown many rc triplanes over the years including a 33% scratch build that you can find on my channel. Ailerons are only induced drag devices. Pretty ineffective overall at least initially at the onset of the roll It’s a rudder elevator airplane. Turns should be nose up a few degrees above the horizon and kick rudder and coordinate with ailerons. Easier to do in the cockpit because I can feel the wind and the skid in my butt. And shoot for wheel landings. Hold off the tail until it wants to settle then stick the tail down. You will be less likely to end up on your nose. And carry some power until the wheels touch. In essence you are flying it onto the runway. I rarely three point my triplane because you loose airflow over the rudder and elevator. Hope that helps. Check out th-cam.com/video/5PwtVaNfu7E/w-d-xo.html
Good job Cliff! A little nose weight, possibly next size up prop. I don't think you'll ever 3-point a model Dreidecker. You are not in the cockpit lining up exactly on a tetrahedron!
HI Dan, I've increased the prop size by 2in over the factory prop, I'm getting close to max amp draw, a bigger prop again and I'll have to decrease the throttle curve, this was the reason I increased the right thrust just in case of the extra torque. I think a good landing with this model is going to be the exception but hopefully I'll be filming when it happens, cheers.
I built the smaller 770mm version and its unflyable! Too heavy about 900g with battery and nose weight of 80g which it needed. Has anyone built one that fly's I wonder?
Hi Shane, 'Tim the Plane Man' had his flying with ardu pilot electronics on board, but like all World War 1 Fighters you have to keep the tail really light and get the battery right up in the cowl if possible 🤔👍
For an early view of the video consider joining my Channel, cheers guys 👍🙂
Well done. I don’t think the DR1 was designed for windy conditions, but you got it back in one piece. The ailerons would feel anemic in that situation, with so much wing area for the wind to grab. Definitely a fair weather plane.
Hi Koala, less wind would be more desirable for sure, once I get into the groove for this model it's going to be really smooth I'm sure, cheers 👍
she looks lovely!!!
Thanks Dutch
SUCCESS!!! Bravo, nice flight and many more to come.
Yes! Thank you!
Very well done Cliff. Very nice construction and big success on that second maiden. Congratulation. Piero
Hi Piero, thank you, it was a fun build but quite a lot of work ... but worth it, thanks for commenting 👍
Great Cliff 👍 your building skills are next level.
Thanks 👍
Great remaiden Cliff, I thought you were very brave to maiden her in the wind!! But you must be very proud to get a successful flight of such a beautiful and expertly built plane!! Looked stunning on the ground and in the air, a pleasure to watch 😀👍
Thanks Ian, I daren't bring her any lower for a first flight in those conditions but I'm sure there'll be good flights to come, cheers 👍
That took off nicely!
Thanks Matt ... I notice you didn't mention the landing 😁😁
Well done Cliff. My build has come to a standstill, so this successful maiden should encourage me to get motivated. Thanks!
If you can Jim it's always a good idea to do just a little every day and some days a little turns into a lot 👍🙂
Great 2nd maiden flight, Cliff. Check if your receiver or servos are faulty. Those Fokker DR1'S were always tail heavy and tricky to fly. Even my previous Guillows Fokker DR1 I built back in the year 2000 didn't fly well with rubber band power. So I just hung it up from the ceiling because it would fly straight up and drop out of flight and fall to the ground. As usual, my mother broke it! She breaks all my models even when I didn't live at her house!
Hi Richard, the gear works fine thanks. Do you think now you're older (and wiser) another Guillow's Dr.1 would be more successful? Cheers 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I have another Guillows FOKKER DR1 kit in my collection. I wish I could take a picture of my collection for you to see, but TH-cam doesn't have that option as like FaceBook does. I am 56 years old turning 57 this year. I've been sick, but better. I've had 3 major surgeries in the past 1 1/2 years for Adominal reconstructive surgeries from botched surgeries from the year 2009. Plus I suffer from Charcott Marrie Tooth Disease(C.M.T.). It is a slowly progressive degenerative nerve disease with no cure as like Muscular Distraphy. I am just tired all the time and in pain 24/7 with pins and needles sensations and lack of strength. I love model building, but I am tired from driving with UBER and the disease. I hope you can understand me, Mate. "CHEERS, CLIFF!"
@Richard Browne Sorry to hear that Richard, it's the pits to be poorly, I'm very lucky, I work in the health sector and am grateful for every day I can walk back to the car to drive home. If you can take a photo you can always use my TH-cam registered email address, take care mate 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes It's alright, Cliff. I live better than some people and worse off than other people. It's just nice that you reply back to me like a friend and share simular interest.😉 Thank you for the Email address! "CHEERS!"
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I just sent a picture of my model collection by Email, Cliff.
I think you did great. It looked good in the air
Thanks Paul, looking forward to her next sortie now, cheers.
Good flight, Cliff.
Thanks Gudjon, perfect weather never really comes as you know, cheers 👍
Surprising that it wants to turn right, but not so much left. It may have a little too much right thrust if there are no warps in wings. Model may be easier to fly with rudder/aileron mix, with a fair amount of rudder throw. Remember that you can over-ride amount of rudder throw with rudder stick when/if you need more throw. A little more nose weight may help but model will have a tendency to go nose up with high throttle settings, needing down trim or hold down elevator for "high speed passes". Flight looked pretty good overall, congratulations!!
I think I added to much right thrust Gary, easily fixed though. I have mix on the rudder and aileron but I'll increase it a bit. I love the image of high speed passes, thanks for painting that, cheers.
Beautiful take off Cliff. Landing was good considering the wind...which also makes it hard to tell in flight if what you're feeling is the plane or wind. With my old DR1 the ailerons were good for rolls but thats about it...lol. Definitely a rudder plane. Congratulations Cliff...I know you'll get her dialed in.
She's ready again now Adam, the wind did mask pretty much all of the feedback, but what I did get was useful 👍
Nice job on the flight. Love what your doing.
Thanks John, more to come!
The Dr.1 arrived in one piece, on a rather windy re-maiden.
I'd call that a win Cliff.
Check the CG, then another flight on a less challenging day.
Well done on the second flight.
Hi Jo, thanks, I've been waiting for the wind to drop below double figures but I took a chance and it worked out ok although I didn't learn much of her finer handling qualities. A good day for a maiden on the slope though, cheers.
Looks like its got potential to be a great flyer and all things considered, that was a pretty good landing.
Hi SFF, thanks, a bit more up elevator at the vital moment would have kept the tail down but no damage, cheers
Beautiful!! She looked great coming in for the landing. I did notice your fellow flyers moved well away from you though. LOL
Hi Kenny, she did didn't she, at this stage though I was concentrating on landing more than looking at her beauty, cheers.
I've enjoyed following your adventure. So exciting to see it fly and land in one piece! I just picked up the Sopwith Camel in the same size. Thanks for the inspiration.
Hi Jim, thanks. What make is the Camel, I have the Hangar 9 which I converted to electric, here's a video of it flying th-cam.com/video/mg85mUGHh3Q/w-d-xo.html, cheers.
Well done, Cliff! Looked pretty good up in the air.
Hi Daren, thanks, she'll be a bit lower next time, now I know she doesn't have any horrible vices, cheers.
Nice one Clif 🔥👍 Bit more adjusting on the CG and I think it's going to fly lovely. Beautiful build for sure 🔥👍✌️
Thanks Erric, you're right, I think there's going to be a lot of super flights to come, cheers.
Smoothest takeoff one could hope for! Glad it's flying now and looks great.
You and me both Matt! Cheers.
Great second maiden Cliff, you was very brave to do this, with the amount of wind. 👍🏻
Thanks Chris but the forecast for the next couple of weeks seems to be getting windier so it was now or never, cheers 🙂
Congratulations! There's some audible relief in your commentary, you can really pat yourself on the back. Nice landing, too, shame the groundsmen didn't keep the lawn in trim. :D
I sort of expected low ailerons performance, bi- and triplanes where mostly flown with rudder and elevator while the ailerons helped to coordinate the turns. Plus Koala is right, the wind loves to grab those triple wings' surface and the ailerons can't profit from the prop's thrust like the empennage.
Now on to the fine tuning. You'll do a marvelous job, I'm sure. Cheers!
Hi Frederic, nicely summed up and next time I'll use a boot full of elevator to keep the tail down on landing, cheers 👍
Definitely a success. Maybe a little less right motor angle...and a little nose weight 🤔
Looks lovely up there though! Well done!
Looking at the windsock, you would have expected it to get pushed slightly to the left. The fact that she still turned right would indicate a little too much right thrust angle. 😉😊
That was my thoughts as well Mike, easy fix, cheers 👍
Buenos dias Cliff. !!! Felicitaciones el vuelo dr1. Es como un cometa. Aqui en colonia volo uno, poquito mas grande con glow. Pero la misma vista al despegue. Muchos vuelos más, saludos y felicitaciones.
Hola Jorge, se ven bastante impresionantes despegando y en el aire. El próximo vuelo la traeré un poco más abajo, gracias por comentar, espero que el traductor de Google haga un trabajo razonable con las palabras, saludos 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes si Cliff clarito . asi te entiendo y tu a mí. Lo unico con los videos no entiendo. El dr.1 con sus tres alas hace efecto especial. A la vista. Muy bueno.
@@jorgerostagnol3602 Estoy hablando de lo que está haciendo y lo que estoy haciendo para corregirlo, lo convierte en un video más interesante que simplemente volar. Algún día los subtítulos automáticos estarán en su propio idioma, saludos Jorge
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes gracias Cliff. Le pido a mi hijo mayor. Que me tradusca tus comentario. Feliz domingo.
Wow, I am sooo happy that I saw she had a great flight!!! Your flying field is sooo awesome, too! Happy Landings with her in the future:)
Hi Barry, it was a relief to see her flying, with just a few minor adjustments she'll be a sweety, cheers.
Glad that went better. Be interesting to drop ailerons a few degrees . For a big model it’s not easy to see is it
Thanks Nick, I'm not sure what you mean regarding the ailerons? The following flights will get lower, the conditions and earlier first flight dictated some altitude but it was important to video the flight nonetheless, cheers.
Well done Cliff. Always harder to fly a challenge. Final approach was lovely! Maybe reduce the right thrust a tad, increase the up-aileron travel, set up a switch that links aileron and rudder? Looking forward to part three!
Thanks for the tips David, right thrust will be reduced, I have differential already on the ailerons but I can increase that, and a switch is already done but I'm thinking of adding more rudder into the mix, cheers.
👍muy lindo vuelo cliff saludos desde Argentina🇦🇷
hola alfredo,gracias fue de maiden asi que lo mantuve alto,pero salio bien 🙂
When a dr-1 is a bit top heavy it will turn on it's own like that. Nose weight will help allot. I have heard experienced dr-1 rc pilots say you almost allways need to add nose weight.
With the real deal Dr-1 they did not have the top heavy issues and did not so much need nose weight added to the lower or underside of the cowl area, preferably inside the planes nose😳👌😍. Because the real thing had the heavy steel motor up front of the tiny light weight fighter.
Great to see your flight went really quite well with her. Fairly standard landing for a dr-1 especially with the wind up a bit. Cheers Cliff.
Thanks Mongoose, the weight box is right behind the motor, the extended nose helps a bit, just like modern replicas of course, cheers.
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes right on, Cliff.
Are your flying buddies beginning to treat you like a celebrity yet? Your videos are well done and entertaining. I have been enjoying watching "Vice Grips Garage" videos, also entertaining.
You mean apart from carrying my models and mopping my brow ... no not at all lol, cheers Gary
Fantastic maiden, have found on Biplanes all ailerons do is tilt the plane left or right and the rudder is where all the turning happens. In those kind of winds your fighting all the drag of the wings and wing supports. Looks great in the air, Well done Cliff, Jeff in LA USA
I have a Tiger Moth (ailerons on the bottom wing) and it turns beautifully on the ailerons only. I wonder if it's the ailerons being on the top wing that reduces their effect 🤔 just a thought. Or possibly the size of the ailerons on the Dr1 relative to the combined wing area of the 3 wings 🤔
@@mikeparkercreative5136 The Moth has dihedral in the wings that aid turning, my Dynam Tigermoth likes ruder to turn, Mike have a great day
@@JeffinLowerAlabama , yes, good point 🤔 I guess that makes a significant difference....even a little dihedral 😊
The ailerons aren't massive and well out of the slipsteam buys, I have a couple of biplanes with full-span ailerons just on the lower wings and they work really well. The Fokker does have dihedral, not a lot, but the original had none!
Beautiful! The landing was also great. I hope you can fix the small issues and do some slow fly-bys :)
Already fixed Andrew, good times to come 👍
A nice flight, my other Dr1 banks right as well and I note that Tim`s banks right too, and so I suspect the real thing did.
I have to apologise as I have not had time to watch videos, work and life get in the way.
Just started a new project at work and its taking up a lot of my concentration.
Hi Nick, life has a habit of doing that, I think the full-size machine was very good at turning torque left and was the direction of choice in combat 👍
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I think you are right, I am trying to recall what direction my bang wood turns, I think right????
But I have decided to link the rudder with the ailerons for the maiden, I can see that just ailerons for this aircraft is not enough.
Congratulations!
Hi Kai, thanks 👍
Well done, lovely to see success :)
Thank you Martin! Cheers!
Looks good but do you think the pilot was shaking this head.
Probably John, cheers 😁👍
Success! Feels good 👍
It sure does 3holer, cheers 🙂
Cliff. I fly a 3/4 scale airdrome aero
planes kits and I’ve built and flown many rc triplanes over the years including a 33% scratch build that you can find on my channel. Ailerons are only induced drag devices. Pretty ineffective overall at least initially at the onset of the roll It’s a rudder elevator airplane. Turns should be nose up a few degrees above the horizon and kick rudder and coordinate with ailerons. Easier to do in the cockpit because I can feel the wind and the skid in my butt. And shoot for wheel landings. Hold off the tail until it wants to settle then stick the tail down. You will be less likely to end up on your nose. And carry some power until the wheels touch. In essence you are flying it onto the runway. I rarely three point my triplane because you loose airflow over the rudder and elevator. Hope that helps. Check out th-cam.com/video/5PwtVaNfu7E/w-d-xo.html
Hi John, thanks, yes, great advice, it should make a big difference, loved the foam-board model as well, subbed, cheers.
Good job Cliff! A little nose weight, possibly next size up prop. I don't think you'll ever 3-point a model Dreidecker. You are not in the cockpit lining up exactly on a tetrahedron!
HI Dan, I've increased the prop size by 2in over the factory prop, I'm getting close to max amp draw, a bigger prop again and I'll have to decrease the throttle curve, this was the reason I increased the right thrust just in case of the extra torque. I think a good landing with this model is going to be the exception but hopefully I'll be filming when it happens, cheers.
good to you had success well done
Yes, thanks Robert
They say a tail heavy plane only flies once, so you must be close to the correct CG!
That's right, I just feel a little more will make a difference, if not I can always take it out again, cheers 👍
Excellent....
Thank you! Cheers!
I built the smaller 770mm version and its unflyable! Too heavy about 900g with battery and nose weight of 80g which it needed. Has anyone built one that fly's I wonder?
Hi Shane, 'Tim the Plane Man' had his flying with ardu pilot electronics on board, but like all World War 1 Fighters you have to keep the tail really light and get the battery right up in the cowl if possible 🤔👍
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Danke Klaus, prost