It’s come down to this: he taught us when we were kids that God is bigger than the boogeyman, and now that we’re adults he’s teaching us that God is bigger than the adult Boogeymen.
I HAVE SEEN GOD BEFORE AND THE DEVIL and to me that means both heaven and hell are real places .So i will believe the good news about Jesus and go to heaven . YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT for its no skin off my nose
How dare you..... speak the absolute truth and cause many evangelicals to self-reflect on their engagement with problematic views and actions contrary to that of Christ and His teachings. You’re doing God’s work. Carry on, sir. 🙌🏽
Once again, I appreciate the enlightening and relevant history lesson. As a Black follower of Jesus, this, at first, encouraged me, and then made me, once again, feel lost to labels within Christianity. Belief-wise, I fall into the Neo-Evangelical camp, but this politicized anti- everything Republican propaganda machine labeled "Evangelism" often excludes me and many times does injury to aspects of my life or, in my experience, the spreading of the redemptive Gospel of Jesus Christ. One of the things that I think is discouraging is that talk of Christian history is (understandably) often shown through the scope of White history. Meanwhile, it's challenging to grapple with and reconcile this history to the Black Christian and church experiences, past and present. Similarly, because of my experiences, I wonder about the reckoning of religious beliefs and history as it affects oppressed people of colonized nations especially as they find themselves wearing new labels of immigrant, asylum seeker or minority in this country where American Evangelicals supported Trump and don't understand how people can come from the Middle East or south of the United States border and identify as persecuted Christians, also. In my imagination, I'd find that jarring and befuddling. To receive Evangelical help "over there" but watch Evangelicals stand opposed to it over here. That, to me, sounds more like a Fundamentalist idea than an Evangelical one of community service and outreach. All of these labels frustrate me. I understand how they work for society, but honestly, one of the many things I like about how Jesus went through the world was that people had a hard time labeling him. His lifestyle and operation manual wasn't of this world. I think I'd appreciate it if Christ followers were so different in the world, that our exhibitions of compassion and mercy, our company, our character, integrity, love, intelligence and wisdom, defied understanding and labeling. As it is, we're rejected summarily by society based on a label that people thinks explains us and our beliefs, when people's ideas of us sound more like descriptions of Pharisees than followers of Jesus. At any rate, I got a little lost. I suppose I was trying to ask for a video looking at these things from the perspective and development of Christianity within communities of color. I think this would be helpful for Christians of color like me as well as Christians who are White and may be baffled by why people are discrediting the faith of Pastor Warnock in GA. From my experience in predominately White Christian schools or churches, I felt uncomfortable with the amount of awe people expressed towards the practice of my faith or knowledge or Scripture. I often felt like I was looked upon or treated like I was there as some sort of mission field who needed to be saved from Blackness, Gospel music, and dancing, rather than a sibling and equal in the faith. There's a weird, unhealthy marriage of (American) Whiteness and Christianity, here in America that I think makes it hard to see other people as equally saved or Christian. There's a real lack of understanding of how Christianity developed among people who aren't White that may also contribute to why we don't understand each other's expressions of Christianity, especially when it comes to politics or applying the Bible.
Thank you, GetJayne Smith, for bringing an internally-liberated, self-confident, nuanced faith perspective to the table. At this time when viewpoints are being pushed to extremes, your voice as a Neo-Evangelical moved and willing to speak to our colonialist past and present are a powerful spiritual medicine for the church. Phil Vischer's clarification of how the evangelical label came to encompass fundamentalism was also a helpful guide to me in navigating our poisonous ecclesial environment.
Did you watch the other video on why black christians vote D and white evangelicals vote R? Really interesting, and I think it might help a bit with understanding the political and historical context for why you're entirely justified in feeling the way you do. Modern evangelical christianity really DOES feel like it's abandoned some of its theological and ideological brethren over the corrupting influences of politics. Worth noting, of course, that the big tent of christianity is much more complex than even modernist vs fundamentalist vs evangelical. Intersectionality is a term usually used in "social justice" circles. But I think it's a fundamentally sound concept and it applies here. Being black and holding the theological beliefs of the evangelical movement is NOT the same as being white and evangelical or being an immigrant and evangelical. That's something we in the church need to do some soul-searching on. Good luck to us.
As I connect with other christians from different cultures l realize they don't have to ( do it ) like me but that there are basics of our faith, the knowledge that we are all in need of a savior and he is Christ. Our bond is our love for Christ who loved us first and our love for each other and we can build our relationship foundation there, after all we are family. sorry for the word structure and grammatical errors I'm not a word Smith like you I only have a ninth grade education God bless you my friend
Prayers for your healing brother so much pain has been created by our white community. I have learned much but need to learn so much more to walk with you through this pain and struggles we create.
I grew up in a Christian household with Awana and Veggie Tales. I've since identified as agnostic for the better part of the last decade. That being said; Phil, I have a ton of respect for you and what you literally preach. I have two young daughters who watch Veggie Tales because the message there is very important. There aren't other sources of media that teach a heightened sense of morality in the way you were able to. I've watched countless of the videos on your channel and shared them, especially during the beginning of this summer. Your ability to convey a conversation is fantastic and I wish I saw more of that in the world. ~Joseph
Long time agnostic, sociologist, American, millennial, member of the LGBTQ+ community here. I have known many Christians of various denominations, nearly all of them great friends. But I'm unsure if I've met any Evangelical Christians and I'm pretty sure I've never knowledgeably discussed Christianity with any Evangelical Christians. I'm grateful for your clear explanations on this history, because I have been very skeptical and confused about how the escalation and narratives of us vs. them in the media have been going. TikTok videos by supposed former Evangelicals my age who have left the church inspired me to try to learn more about how the various Evangelical communities in the US came to be. You have a new follower, and I appreciate the ability to learn. Thank you.
I’m a 70 year old atheist, usually watch Christian sites for just a chuckle, you are awesome, very informative, mind blowing, I really enjoy your honesty, please understand that this is a compliment
You’re not an atheist, point number one. And Phil Vischer is not a Christian, secondly. He is a social justice NeoMarxist who is unable to exegete a text.
Thank you for producing this, Mr. Vischer! I've been wondering what "Evangelicalism" meant for a long time now. It all makes sense now. It's a terrible shame that the title has been so terribly tainted. I too believe it can be and hope to see it redeemed some day, hopefully sooner than later.
Once again, “Bob the Tomato” talks sense and brings clarity by connecting facts that people like me were only vaguely familiar with before now. As an evangelical who grew up learning about loving others as myself at Billy Graham crusades, I have felt bewildered, frustrated and betrayed by the embrace of the often hateful language of the political hard right by my fellow evangelicals. Understanding how the blending of evangelical and fundamentalist Christians for political gain occurred, has helped me feel less bewildered. So thank you!
Well, as a guy who was raised Catholic, the best thing you could do is denounce those hateful people on the far right. Its pretty obvious the Republicans dont care about you
The universe didn't magically appear and out popped magical beings of intelligence and conscious awareness. Atheism is non-evidence based, non-scientific bullshit.
I love this content so much... especially coming from the guy who helped educate all six of my kids (from the late 1990s to 2015) with VeggieTales, LarryBoy and the whole crew. I'm pretty sure we saw them all. Probably within the last five to six months, I never knew this "war" was brewing like this - to this degree - amongst believers in Christ. Terms like C.R.T. crossed my path in reading. And I'm like, "What's this all about?" And once I ventured down this road, running into other terms like "woke," "deconstructionism," etc. I realized and started to understand just how politicized "Evangelicals" have become. It's like there's Christians on one side of the aisle screaming at the other Christians on the other aisle, "Vote Republican to prove you are Christian, or vote Democrat to prove that you're not." It's so disturbing to hear things like that. But since becoming a subscriber to this channel, it has been a breath of fresh air to my soul. Thank you so much for the content...and telling the whole objective story of America's history - the good, the bad and the ugly. So refreshing...
I think it’s difficult to separate true evangelicals vs. right wing “evangelicals”. The hypocrisy has really crushed my spirit as far as faith and humanity in general
Relatable. I grew up in an evangelical household/church but I can no longer consider myself evangelical. I cannot understand the hateful and unempathetic opinions of the very people I grew up with, my own parents included.
@@acaciagrace6585 basically they fear damnation and if left unchecked they will kill you all the while claiming it will save you. The Spanish inquisition has nothing on what the evangelical would do if he had power. The desire for that final battle between good and evil would be too great! Think Koresh and Jim Jones style. The evangelical is not far behind them.
I grew up in a church that was originally Evangelical Association. True Evangelical. It merged with the United Brethren and became the Evangelical United Brethren Church. It still taught Biblical based lessons, engaged in social issues, strove to bring God's Kingdom to Earth, and most importantly, taught that the individual must be born again. A key concept was that accepting and committing to Jesus as your personal Savior brought tremendous transformational power to your life. This empowered the individual to overcome the demons that plague many in forms such as addictions, perversions, racism, and hate. In 1968, the E.U.B. merged with the Methodist to become the United Methodist Church. Somehow, the United Methodists have lost their way and are at the point of fracture into Traditional and Woke Churches. I have considered myself an Evangelical for seven decades. I still am. I am not a Fundamentalist.
@Timothy Williams What's brave is that the fundamentalists are the meanest, cruelest, most dangerous people out there. Some of them are not too many steps away from being full blown cult member terrorists.
@Timothy Williams I think Mr. Haynes is insinuating (as Epic Kate did below) that SOME evangelicals are dangerous. Dangerous and violent enough that they will attempt to harm anyone who opposes their way of thinking.
I've feared for him too. He's in my prayers as well. I'm a white woman who's worked in the evangelical church for 20 years and seen the shift he's talking about. And it's dangerous to speak truth when some people don't want to hear it. I finally feel like I have an ally I can point to when I push back and try to challenge my friends.
We're going to get nasty letters saying, Where's my water buffalo? Why don't I have a water buffalo! And are you prepared to deal with that? I don't think so.
Sadly, I feel like fundamentalism has become more and more dominant every year, especially during the Trump years. Really hope evangelicalism can make a comeback, and fortunately I’m seeing those of us in the younger generation much more in line with the evangelical way of thinking
except that Trump's version of Christianity is lumped in to hyper evangelicalism, vis-a-vis Paula White who is pulling his strings. that is dominionism and New apostolic Reformation period it is the total opposite of fundamentalist behavior and true Evangelicalism.
@@prodigalmarine5772 trump never said he was changed, converted, save satisfied holy ghost filed evangelic or nothing. Just like everything else trump let people talk to him and they said that he was changed and he was this and he was that in evangelistic and all that the only reason Trump went to the church the only reason Trump Wells Fargo and all the reason these people embrace him was because they felt that they had somebody who will push their agenda which is no birth control no reproductive or help medical care no abortion but the one good thing is we don't get health care for our vaginas you don't get help for your prostate and your penis think about that holier than now walking around like your God's people Jesus died for the Jewwws y'all came later and took him over and say whether the Jews don't want them and we'll take you y'all believe in Norse before Jesus came along y'all believe then the what y'all call pagan holiday which involves the I don't know what to celebrated the end of winter or the beginning of winter or something like that. And gorgeous solstice that's what it was associated so let's get this straight ones and for all Jesus was a Jew and he died for the Jews and he coming back for the juice you better hope that he coming back for you and he'll take you back with him but the way I like why would Jesus want to take somebody back who hate his people I wouldn't want to take you out back if y'all killing my people he said that they did not accept him but he forgave them not y'all.
Every time you upload a video, I know some crucial tea is about to get spilled. Such a great gift of yours, Phil! Keep up all the good work. God bless~
As a non American, thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why the US Trumpist evangelicals are being reported as in bed with with the prosperity gospel, when many evangelicals elsewhere in the world would see those movements as complete opposites.
The ansawer is very simple. American evangelicals tend to be very hypocritical. They reject any part of the Christian teaching that they don't like. They want to live a prosperous happy lives and just judge everyone else for their sins.
@Phil Andrew 😝😝😝😝 But! Seriously, it’s not a joke. As much as Anno states on using Abrahamic imagery for the aesthetics of the show, there’s a kernel of fact on what they paradigmatically represent.
There’s a movement called the New Evangelicals. Videos on TH-cam. From what I see they’re young Christian and politically progressive. Believe in science. They believe the Bible has errors and contradictions. They emphasize the teachings of Jesus.
21:49 I'd really like if you made a video about "desire to declare war on our enemies" because I grew up a very homophobic person. Even today I struggle with it, on occasion. I wish I could get rid of those behaviors, because it feels hateful and wrong. At the same time, I can't help but reflect on how I was always taught that it WAS wrong. I've been hoping for a reasonable documentation about how a Christian is supposed to react to modern LGBT, from someone who knows their stuff. You seem like the perfect candidate for that job, Phil! I need to learn the reality no matter how harsh it may be!
I feel almost the same but I remind myself every time to love them and not the sin so as long as we have great conversations and I can witness everything else is non of my business. It is hard but I pray every time to love my neighbor.
Look at stories about how Jesus interacted and talked to those that the Pharisees thought were "too sinful" for them to talk to. Even the story of Zacchaeus is a great example of how to treat those that you might not agree with their actions or decisions.
Jesus said that even the prostitutes are ahead of the delusional, hate-filled hypocrites, aka Pharisees. It isn't difficult to know how to react to others when you have love. Love will guide you to talk to the "sinners", find out what drives them, what they struggle with, why they are who they are. You would be surprised how great is the difference between what we imagine about other "sinners", and what their actual life really is.
I didn’t know we were “supposed” to “react” to the modern LGBT(Q) person. I’m going to ask my queer pastor about this. Seriously … she is one of the most thoughtful, bible-believing, prayerful, loving, gracious, forgiving Christians I know.
This is helpful, because we don’t learn this in church. It’s good to learn the history know understand the differences which explains why there is division among evangelicals.
Hey Phil, I grew up with veggie tales, it helped shape my faith from a young age. Seeing these videos helps me walk through the complications of the modern world with a familiar face, thank you for this ministry.
Episode 383 of the podcast is one of my favorite episodes ever. Glad you decided to make a video on this topic! Super helpful and important to know the history. Would love to see more videos like this.
Phil, once again your research and nuance is appreciated. As a young evangelical in a turbulent culture, it’s often difficult to not be discouraged. Y’all do such a great job of holding fast to the Bible while being fairly critical. Thank you.
I am an atheist, and your videos are inspiring. You are the voice that the christian community needs, and I appreciate the work that you are doing, and I think it is what we need to bring the country together.
Can you keep making videos on these issues like... every day? They're so informative and pull everything together. Watching these gives me hope that I'm not alone in this no man's land of homelessness many of us Christians have found ourselves in. Thank you!
You should definitely subscribe to the podcast! They have been talking about all these things for years on the podcast. In many ways, these videos have been a summary of things they’ve discussed on the podcast so I think you’d love it! 🙌🏻♥️
In 2024 even the term Christian is becoming problematic as so many people lump all Christians with the worst of American evangelicalism / fundamentalism / hatred. I don't know if it can be rehabilitated or if a new term is needed, nor what the term might be.
Thank you Phil. Thank you, thank you, thank you!! You’ve helped me immensely this year, with the inspiring video clips from Holy Post, as well as your very fun and informative podcasts. I appreciate you my brother in Christ!! 🕊🙏🏽☺️
Excellent Phil (and Skye & John Fea). You’re probably getting flack for this. Glad to jump in here while comments are still positive. We need this checkered history to be well known if we’re ever going to think critically about our assumptions.
I am not a believer in God by any stretch of the imagination. I am, however, interested in Christian history and politics. I found this video very informative and engaging and I thank you for producing it, Mr. Vischer.
I am a atheist myself but like you I can't help but be oddly in awe how hate, God, morals, and politics how they all got mixed into one. Kind of like the chicken or the egg which came first? One.
Thank you for this. It’s so good to know that the history of Christianity in America has roots outside of the Southern fundamentalist tradition. I can now hold my head high as I proclaim that I too am an evangelical.
Thanks for this very succinct and informative history lesson. I grew up in an "evangelical" denomination, but I now consider myself as an Anabaptist. It's good to know more about the roots of today's "evangelicals."
An atheist brought over by your visit to paulogia, real informative video and well presented, cleared up a lot of confusion ive had around the term, and seems my confusion wasnt exactly just on me. good work.
What's the mission though? To make people followers of right wing christianity? Evil bastards calling everyone anything and everything that doesn't fit their ideal? Or is it to tell people God himself took care of sin at the cross?
The mission is to make people followers of Christ period!! Did Cheist welcome prostitutes, tax collectors, blind, the dejected ,the poor? Yes!! I am not saying God approves of gayism, bug God does not hate gays, he created them. They choose what they want, he gave them free will and the ability to overcome too, they can choose to trust him and get back in his plan or choose not to, choice!!! But we preach Christ and him crucified and that's our message@@dw3403
@@dw3403 The world (the mission field) is perishing and will eventually come to an end. Follower of Christ have a Promise Land...that Christ himself is preparing for those who reciprocate to his love. The mission is to point you to the right direction; to Christ. Forget the right wing left wing rhetoric, it’s muddy waters...confusion. Eagles 🦅 need their right & left wings to soar. Jesus is the Truth, the Way, and the Life. To get to Father God, we must go through him... give your life to him & follow him. God is Love. It is a package with everlastingly love that you get.
@@elizabethabamu2878 I have no problem with Christians believing what they believe in. I just want them to stop trying to legislate my life according to their beliefs and leave me alone.
The evangelical movement needs a lot more christians like you to undo the PR taint of Bob Jones, Jerry Falwell and and the far right. As an atheist, your channel gives me hope that, maybe, we're not enemies.
Thank you for this! I grew up evangelical, but I didn't know a *lot* of this. It explains a lot of divides in evangelicalism that have confused me for a long time.
I'm an ex christian who used to watch a lot of veggie tales. I appreciate the good content from this channel, keep making it, it's important. Even if it doesn't get a lot of view now, I have a good feeling these videos will eventually prove influential.
@@watertower1 I don't really identify as either. I would technically fall under agnostic but many modern aetheists use the term in a slightly loose sense so I could fall under that camp as well
I just learned so much!! Thank you so much to everyone who is a part of Holy Post. I’ve been so appreciative of all of your videos. Very grounding, educational, encouraging, and most of all a breath of fresh air in these chaotic and unfamiliar times. Thank you so so much for everything you do.
Thank you for this video and all the others you’ve made! It is helpful to learn an accurate version of Christian history. May God continue to bless your work.
Thank you!!! This brought me to tears, it was so deeply helpful to see the fuller picture and make some sense of how strange and displacing it feels to be a follower of Jesus in America right now. Your videos are awesome, please keep them coming!! So needed.
You really make me question checking the "evangelical" box on surveys And then you got to the part where you said "I haven't given up on the name evangelical"
Fundamentalists blurred the lines with evangelicals to take advantage of their bases and more acceptable branding by the media and main stream. What needs to happen now is to start calling fundamentalists what they are, fundamentalists.
@@Prometeo59 They are the American Taliban. Sad. They used to be the women who never cut their hair and never wore makeup. The women who rarely worked out of the home for money, the children who only said "Yes sir" and "No ma'am." Today they think they own the USA while it truly is only about 33%-35% of the Republican party, they are the loudest and most vulgar.
An informative and straightforward summary of Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism. Thank you for helping me put so many large pieces in their proper places.
It was honestly a crushing feeling seeing the Evangelical and Fundamentalist arrows merge back together. According to this video, I'd be a 'neo-evangelical', and I often find tension with my fundamentalist brothers and sisters over the very subjects of race and the importance of science and philosophy. I pray and hope that a third way can re-emerge yet again. Maybe the politics of our time might become the catalyst for some concerned Christians to draw some important distinctions and engage the world in a more loving and peaceful manner.
I'm seeing that happen more in the Mainline churches. Not all of them are as modernist as Phil says here. Some still hold a very high view of the Bible. Granted, most have a problem with inerrancy, but really that's a newer concept. The older concept was infallibility, which recognizes stuff like the genre or original intent of the Bible.
As a student of comparative religions, I found this very informative. I will admit I had a lot of misconceptions due to the blurring of the lines. Thank you for clarifying. I have subscribed to your channel for more information
Bless you, Phil. Keep up the good work! You've been a great influence on my childhood with Veggie Tales and the fact that you continue to teach and inspire now grown-up kids like me is wonderful.
I've read and heard that being called "evangelical" goes all the way back to the Reformation, when Catholics were apparently calling Protestants evangelicals pejoratively to mock us for only keeping to the written gospel and not also the Catholic tradition. Whether that's accurate or not, I definitely found this to be a helpful, engaging and insightful walkthrough of Protestant history over the last 300 years. Thanks :)
After becoming a Christian I joined a Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church which was 99% black. I often found it hard to adhere to the fundamentalist teachings. Our church has evolved and have dropped the independent fundamentalist title. I thank you for these history lessons. As a black male who love Jesus and lives in South Mississippi it is refreshing to hear the truth behind the beliefs that run through the area to which I live. Thanks again.
Your videos are so informative. And Wow, I just found out you are the creator of VeggieTales. I admire your commitment to serve God with the talents and gifts He has given you. God bless you.
Thank you, Bob the Tomato, err... Phil Vischer. I appreciate this history lesson, and I admire the spot-on way in which you wove humor, insight, and some hard truths into your telling of it. If only ALL online discourse could be this enjoyable and thought-provoking, maybe we'd all stop and listen and consider others' perspectives more. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this very thorough elaboration on Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism in 20th century America. I grew up in Romania and attended a fundamentalist baptist church. Thankfully, my parents valued higher education and sent me to Wheaton College. As an outsider to American politics but an insider of the Fundamentalist / Evangelical faith, I found myself in very interesting and yet conflicting conversations with my American friends. This video helped me better understand the development of Fundamentalism, Evangelicalism, politics, and will come in very handy next time the topic comes up. Thank you so much, Phil, for all the hard work that you put in creating this video. God bless you!
Some sources are listed at 22:23 at the end of the video. I'd also recommend listening to episode 383 of The Holy Post podcast for a more in-depth discussion of what is touched on in this video.
If you're puzzled about how Trumpsters continue to act with such impunity in God's name please watch "The Family". This movement isn't about Christ or His ideologies. It's about power, money and far right ideologies. www.netflix.com/title/80063867?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=wha
Thank you very much for this very illuminating presentation. I now have a better understanding of the various factions and why we are in the mess that we’re in!
Yes, definitely. The distinction is clear. Look at who says All lives matter. Look at the conspiracy theorist lunatics. Look at the science deniers and the anti-maskers. Fundamentalist cult members.
@@EpicKate So if I don't follow a marxist cult like BLM, that makes me a fundamentalist? I don't fit in the other things you said, I just believe the Bible and what the Bible says about partiality and justice.
Fundamentalist? There is no Christian cornerstone of worship-like deference to the Israelis and demagoguery of a businessman turned politician so how could evangelicals conduct be described as fundamental. Evangelicals are rank among the least fundamental Christians by those who actually read and study the Bible. Moreover, abortion isn’t even directly mentioned in the Bible so I don’t understand how that could be remotely fundamental. Yet, LYING is specifically highlighted as behavior that aligns you with the conduct of Satan so it should behoove any fundamentalist not to habitually lie as well as avoid SUPPORTING or knowingly ASSOCIATING with a habitual liar as did many evangelicals in their support for Trump. (JOHN 8:44; PSALM 101:7; COLOSSIANS 3:9) Christians DIED because they made false statements. Did we forget Ananias and Sapphira? (ACTS 5:1-11) Most evangelicals I’ve spoken to can’t string two coherent scriptural thoughts together to effectively support a belief. That’s not fundamentalism.
I'm not sure why these videos were suggested for me but I'm glad they were. I've watched 4 so far, I'm not American or remotely religious but always willing to learn and I'm learning a lot! Thank you.
I grew up evangelical and I am now a huge critic of the whole movement. I went into this video ready to make a bunch of smart ass remarks but you guys actually did a pretty good job explaining it in a non bias way
I am not a believer in any supreme being or beings. I started not believing based on how god fearing persons behaved but If I knew a christian like you I would have kept believing, I say all that to say, your videos are among the best most educational I have ever seen on TH-cam. Your researched based facts are so informative I could be used in universities. Thanks for all the hard work you put into making your videos.
As a black american christian, I've raised all 3 of my daughters on veggie tale movies and to have a personal relationship with Christ. For the life of me, I've been scratching my head trying to figure out what is going on with White Christians, why arent they being compassionate about my community? I was even thinking, well geez- if Billy G. was alive he wouldn't stand for any of this non sense! He would stand with the Black community. But NOW I know and I see clear! Thank you soooo much for being a TRUE example of Christ. Now, I just wish there was more white Christians like you. Thank you :) - And I know you will get some hate for this video- but Honesty is sooooooo important!
7:50 This is, to me the SINGLE biggest problem with American Christianity today. It has slowly become an insular cult disconnected with not only the world outside the church, but ever since 2016, from reality itself. I don't really have words for how much that breaks my heart.
Phil, thanks for breaking it down and making it plain. What you teach here gives clarity regarding the "hot mess" and helps me make sense of my frustration with this country. Thanks again
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The man behind “Bob the Tomato” is no joke.
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This is the guy who did the voice for Bob the Tomato?
That’s him.
It is a metaphor meant to be insulting.
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It’s come down to this: he taught us when we were kids that God is bigger than the boogeyman, and now that we’re adults he’s teaching us that God is bigger than the adult Boogeymen.
Well said!!
So much this!
Circles within Circles.
I HAVE SEEN GOD BEFORE AND THE DEVIL and to me that means both heaven and hell are real places .So i will believe the good news about Jesus and go to heaven . YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT for its no skin off my nose
OKAAAY and AMEN
How dare you..... speak the absolute truth and cause many evangelicals to self-reflect on their engagement with problematic views and actions contrary to that of Christ and His teachings.
You’re doing God’s work. Carry on, sir. 🙌🏽
Bob The Tomatoe droppin BOMBS 💣 👀 👌
How about the act of murdering unborn children. It is one of the Holy grails of the Deocrat party that so many black so called Christians support.
Wrong, not doing God's work....
Once again, I appreciate the enlightening and relevant history lesson. As a Black follower of Jesus, this, at first, encouraged me, and then made me, once again, feel lost to labels within Christianity. Belief-wise, I fall into the Neo-Evangelical camp, but this politicized anti- everything Republican propaganda machine labeled "Evangelism" often excludes me and many times does injury to aspects of my life or, in my experience, the spreading of the redemptive Gospel of Jesus Christ. One of the things that I think is discouraging is that talk of Christian history is (understandably) often shown through the scope of White history. Meanwhile, it's challenging to grapple with and reconcile this history to the Black Christian and church experiences, past and present. Similarly, because of my experiences, I wonder about the reckoning of religious beliefs and history as it affects oppressed people of colonized nations especially as they find themselves wearing new labels of immigrant, asylum seeker or minority in this country where American Evangelicals supported Trump and don't understand how people can come from the Middle East or south of the United States border and identify as persecuted Christians, also. In my imagination, I'd find that jarring and befuddling. To receive Evangelical help "over there" but watch Evangelicals stand opposed to it over here. That, to me, sounds more like a Fundamentalist idea than an Evangelical one of community service and outreach.
All of these labels frustrate me. I understand how they work for society, but honestly, one of the many things I like about how Jesus went through the world was that people had a hard time labeling him. His lifestyle and operation manual wasn't of this world. I think I'd appreciate it if Christ followers were so different in the world, that our exhibitions of compassion and mercy, our company, our character, integrity, love, intelligence and wisdom, defied understanding and labeling. As it is, we're rejected summarily by society based on a label that people thinks explains us and our beliefs, when people's ideas of us sound more like descriptions of Pharisees than followers of Jesus.
At any rate, I got a little lost. I suppose I was trying to ask for a video looking at these things from the perspective and development of Christianity within communities of color. I think this would be helpful for Christians of color like me as well as Christians who are White and may be baffled by why people are discrediting the faith of Pastor Warnock in GA. From my experience in predominately White Christian schools or churches, I felt uncomfortable with the amount of awe people expressed towards the practice of my faith or knowledge or Scripture. I often felt like I was looked upon or treated like I was there as some sort of mission field who needed to be saved from Blackness, Gospel music, and dancing, rather than a sibling and equal in the faith. There's a weird, unhealthy marriage of (American) Whiteness and Christianity, here in America that I think makes it hard to see other people as equally saved or Christian. There's a real lack of understanding of how Christianity developed among people who aren't White that may also contribute to why we don't understand each other's expressions of Christianity, especially when it comes to politics or applying the Bible.
Thank you, GetJayne Smith, for bringing an internally-liberated, self-confident, nuanced faith perspective to the table. At this time when viewpoints are being pushed to extremes, your voice as a Neo-Evangelical moved and willing to speak to our colonialist past and present are a powerful spiritual medicine for the church. Phil Vischer's clarification of how the evangelical label came to encompass fundamentalism was also a helpful guide to me in navigating our poisonous ecclesial environment.
Did you watch the other video on why black christians vote D and white evangelicals vote R? Really interesting, and I think it might help a bit with understanding the political and historical context for why you're entirely justified in feeling the way you do. Modern evangelical christianity really DOES feel like it's abandoned some of its theological and ideological brethren over the corrupting influences of politics.
Worth noting, of course, that the big tent of christianity is much more complex than even modernist vs fundamentalist vs evangelical. Intersectionality is a term usually used in "social justice" circles. But I think it's a fundamentally sound concept and it applies here. Being black and holding the theological beliefs of the evangelical movement is NOT the same as being white and evangelical or being an immigrant and evangelical.
That's something we in the church need to do some soul-searching on. Good luck to us.
As I connect with other christians from different cultures l realize they don't have to ( do it ) like me but that there are basics of our faith, the knowledge that we are all in need of a savior and he is Christ. Our bond is our love for Christ who loved us first and our love for each other and we can build our relationship foundation there, after all we are family. sorry for the word structure and grammatical errors I'm not a word Smith like you I only have a ninth grade education God bless you my friend
Prayers for your healing brother so much pain has been created by our white community. I have learned much but need to learn so much more to walk with you through this pain and struggles we create.
When you realise that none of it is real, then you find freedom.
I grew up in a Christian household with Awana and Veggie Tales. I've since identified as agnostic for the better part of the last decade. That being said;
Phil, I have a ton of respect for you and what you literally preach. I have two young daughters who watch Veggie Tales because the message there is very important. There aren't other sources of media that teach a heightened sense of morality in the way you were able to. I've watched countless of the videos on your channel and shared them, especially during the beginning of this summer. Your ability to convey a conversation is fantastic and I wish I saw more of that in the world. ~Joseph
@Scott Burn That comment and poem is a poster for spiritual trauma and manipulation.
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@@jergoodman1987 Haha...you called it!
Agnosticism is the end result of Veggie Tale evangelism. Vischer's legacy!
@@normanpatterson4462 haha. Fundamentalism drove me away from Christianity. Once you start investigating, it falls apart.
21:49 please do videos on all of the topics - we need them 🥺
This was my _exact_ comment. 😅
Agreed!
@@politereminder6284 oh 😳 I didn't see it 😔 but I'm glad you think so as well 😅
If your interested in the intersection of science and faith check out the Disciple Science channel
Came to say this too!
Long time agnostic, sociologist, American, millennial, member of the LGBTQ+ community here. I have known many Christians of various denominations, nearly all of them great friends. But I'm unsure if I've met any Evangelical Christians and I'm pretty sure I've never knowledgeably discussed Christianity with any Evangelical Christians. I'm grateful for your clear explanations on this history, because I have been very skeptical and confused about how the escalation and narratives of us vs. them in the media have been going. TikTok videos by supposed former
Evangelicals my age who have left the church inspired me to try to learn more about how the various Evangelical communities in the US came to be. You have a new follower, and I appreciate the ability to learn. Thank you.
Ephesians 1
Ephesians 2
Acts 4:12
Phil Vischer is not a Christian. He is a social justice NeoMarxist. Were he a Christian, the world would hate him.
I’m a 70 year old atheist, usually watch Christian sites for just a chuckle, you are awesome, very informative, mind blowing, I really enjoy your honesty, please understand that this is a compliment
You’re not an atheist, point number one. And Phil Vischer is not a Christian, secondly. He is a social justice NeoMarxist who is unable to exegete a text.
@john absolutely like your comment, I too laugh at christians of all kinds including Islam which is hilarious
Well atheist welcome to Jim Crow 2.0
@@bradzimmerman3171why was Whyte supremacy created and why isn't Whyte nationalist in the Bible? Going back to the book of Genesis
Atheist seem to be applying for cultural Christianity these days, your Darwin has made a u turn
Thank you for producing this, Mr. Vischer! I've been wondering what "Evangelicalism" meant for a long time now. It all makes sense now. It's a terrible shame that the title has been so terribly tainted. I too believe it can be and hope to see it redeemed some day, hopefully sooner than later.
Once again, “Bob the Tomato” talks sense and brings clarity by connecting facts that people like me were only vaguely familiar with before now. As an evangelical who grew up learning about loving others as myself at Billy Graham crusades, I have felt bewildered, frustrated and betrayed by the embrace of the often hateful language of the political hard right by my fellow evangelicals. Understanding how the blending of evangelical and fundamentalist Christians for political gain occurred, has helped me feel less bewildered. So thank you!
I feel what you said so much. You worded it really well.
Ditto
Well, as a guy who was raised Catholic, the best thing you could do is denounce those hateful people on the far right. Its pretty obvious the Republicans dont care about you
EXACTLY
@@josephcottone9909 👍👍👍
As an atheist I found this video to be really good! I'm happy to find someone willing to look at the history of their beliefs. Very well presented!
Turn to Christ pal, please!!!!!!!!
The universe didn't magically appear and out popped magical beings of intelligence and conscious awareness. Atheism is non-evidence based, non-scientific bullshit.
@@Christ2010Grad a TH-cam comment isn’t going to do anything, I don’t know what you expect to come from this
I love this content so much... especially coming from the guy who helped educate all six of my kids (from the late 1990s to 2015) with VeggieTales, LarryBoy and the whole crew. I'm pretty sure we saw them all.
Probably within the last five to six months, I never knew this "war" was brewing like this - to this degree - amongst believers in Christ. Terms like C.R.T. crossed my path in reading. And I'm like, "What's this all about?" And once I ventured down this road, running into other terms like "woke," "deconstructionism," etc. I realized and started to understand just how politicized "Evangelicals" have become. It's like there's Christians on one side of the aisle screaming at the other Christians on the other aisle, "Vote Republican to prove you are Christian, or vote Democrat to prove that you're not." It's so disturbing to hear things like that. But since becoming a subscriber to this channel, it has been a breath of fresh air to my soul. Thank you so much for the content...and telling the whole objective story of America's history - the good, the bad and the ugly. So refreshing...
As a black man, I really appreciate you Phil. And I appreciate Veggie Tales too lol!
From one of those pesky Mainline Modernists, I'd like to say to Phil blessings and Godspeed on this project. It's super important!
I'm not as hopeful as you Phil. The term Evangelical is foreign to me now. I cannot identify with what it is today. I think "Christian" is sufficient.
I think it’s difficult to separate true evangelicals vs. right wing “evangelicals”. The hypocrisy has really crushed my spirit as far as faith and humanity in general
Relatable. I grew up in an evangelical household/church but I can no longer consider myself evangelical. I cannot understand the hateful and unempathetic opinions of the very people I grew up with, my own parents included.
Go to the beatitudes. I can't identify with " christian" even.
Read who are called the children of God.
@@acaciagrace6585 basically they fear damnation and if left unchecked they will kill you all the while claiming it will save you.
The Spanish inquisition has nothing on what the evangelical would do if he had power. The desire for that final battle between good and evil would be too great! Think Koresh and Jim Jones style. The evangelical is not far behind them.
I grew up in a church that was originally Evangelical Association. True Evangelical. It merged with the United Brethren and became the Evangelical United Brethren Church. It still taught Biblical based lessons, engaged in social issues, strove to bring God's Kingdom to Earth, and most importantly, taught that the individual must be born again. A key concept was that accepting and committing to Jesus as your personal Savior brought tremendous transformational power to your life. This empowered the individual to overcome the demons that plague many in forms such as addictions, perversions, racism, and hate. In 1968, the E.U.B. merged with the Methodist to become the United Methodist Church. Somehow, the United Methodists have lost their way and are at the point of fracture into Traditional and Woke Churches. I have considered myself an Evangelical for seven decades. I still am. I am not a Fundamentalist.
Phil you are a brave man. I respect and admire it. I also fear for you because of it. You are in my prayers brother. Thanks for sharing.
Timothy Williams just my opinion on the man. Based on more than just this video. What were your thoughts?
@Timothy Williams What's brave is that the fundamentalists are the meanest, cruelest, most dangerous people out there. Some of them are not too many steps away from being full blown cult member terrorists.
@Timothy Williams I think Mr. Haynes is insinuating (as Epic Kate did below) that SOME evangelicals are dangerous. Dangerous and violent enough that they will attempt to harm anyone who opposes their way of thinking.
I've feared for him too. He's in my prayers as well. I'm a white woman who's worked in the evangelical church for 20 years and seen the shift he's talking about. And it's dangerous to speak truth when some people don't want to hear it. I finally feel like I have an ally I can point to when I push back and try to challenge my friends.
@@EpicKate You've met them all so you can make this blanket assessment?
"I think we're gonna get letters about this."
We're going to get nasty letters saying, Where's my water buffalo? Why don't I have a water buffalo! And are you prepared to deal with that? I don't think so.
Maybe Phil's next video will explain the water buffalo conundrum!!
@@EpicKate I am dying!!!!
I wholeheartedly agree about the letters and the water buffalo. Good job Phil. Appreciate you taking the time to brush up on our history.
"It is I, the fair Ophelia!" :)
Damn you’re making me want to be a Christian LOL
Oh hey Johnny, what’s up?
@@mikerivera373 I have a problem with Lisa. She said that I hit her
@@cuckoophendula8211 What? Well did you?
DO IT! Turns out you don't have to be a political crazy to be a Christian. Wild, right?
Run. Run now. It's not at all a good thing. It's blood drinking idol worship in a nice little cute package.
LOVE these Christian history lessons. Please keep it up!
The man is being intellectually dishonest in this video. Sad to see.
Nick Evers so what is your counter argument? Enlighten me
I was happy to see such an honest Christian.
Even as an atheist, I find this history lesson interesting.
@@Holio88 - Where was he dishonest, or factually incorrect?
Sadly, I feel like fundamentalism has become more and more dominant every year, especially during the Trump years. Really hope evangelicalism can make a comeback, and fortunately I’m seeing those of us in the younger generation much more in line with the evangelical way of thinking
except that Trump's version of Christianity is lumped in to hyper evangelicalism, vis-a-vis Paula White who is pulling his strings. that is dominionism and New apostolic Reformation period it is the total opposite of fundamentalist behavior and true Evangelicalism.
Yes bigots
@@prodigalmarine5772 trump never said he was changed, converted, save satisfied holy ghost filed evangelic or nothing. Just like everything else trump let people talk to him and they said that he was changed and he was this and he was that in evangelistic and all that the only reason Trump went to the church the only reason Trump Wells Fargo and all the reason these people embrace him was because they felt that they had somebody who will push their agenda which is no birth control no reproductive or help medical care no abortion but the one good thing is we don't get health care for our vaginas you don't get help for your prostate and your penis think about that holier than now walking around like your God's people Jesus died for the Jewwws y'all came later and took him over and say whether the Jews don't want them and we'll take you y'all believe in Norse before Jesus came along y'all believe then the what y'all call pagan holiday which involves the I don't know what to celebrated the end of winter or the beginning of winter or something like that. And gorgeous solstice that's what it was associated so let's get this straight ones and for all Jesus was a Jew and he died for the Jews and he coming back for the juice you better hope that he coming back for you and he'll take you back with him but the way I like why would Jesus want to take somebody back who hate his people I wouldn't want to take you out back if y'all killing my people he said that they did not accept him but he forgave them not y'all.
Every time you upload a video, I know some crucial tea is about to get spilled. Such a great gift of yours, Phil! Keep up all the good work. God bless~
As a non American, thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why the US Trumpist evangelicals are being reported as in bed with with the prosperity gospel, when many evangelicals elsewhere in the world would see those movements as complete opposites.
Right-O! Prosperity gospel used to be a very Pagan thought. Now it's accepted as a religious idea. What a concept?!?
The ansawer is very simple. American evangelicals tend to be very hypocritical. They reject any part of the Christian teaching that they don't like. They want to live a prosperous happy lives and just judge everyone else for their sins.
I'm calling myself a Neo-Evangelical from now on so I can use it as a spring board for conversation!
@Phil Andrew
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But! Seriously, it’s not a joke. As much as Anno states on using Abrahamic imagery for the aesthetics of the show, there’s a kernel of fact on what they paradigmatically represent.
There’s a movement called the New Evangelicals. Videos on TH-cam. From what I see they’re young Christian and politically progressive. Believe in science. They believe the Bible has errors and contradictions. They emphasize the teachings of Jesus.
I'm watching after listening to you on Paulogia. Very informative! Happy to have been introduced to your channel!
Me too. Anyone who annoys Ken Hamm is OK in my book.
21:49 I'd really like if you made a video about "desire to declare war on our enemies" because I grew up a very homophobic person. Even today I struggle with it, on occasion. I wish I could get rid of those behaviors, because it feels hateful and wrong. At the same time, I can't help but reflect on how I was always taught that it WAS wrong. I've been hoping for a reasonable documentation about how a Christian is supposed to react to modern LGBT, from someone who knows their stuff. You seem like the perfect candidate for that job, Phil! I need to learn the reality no matter how harsh it may be!
I feel almost the same but I remind myself every time to love them and not the sin so as long as we have great conversations and I can witness everything else is non of my business. It is hard but I pray every time to love my neighbor.
Check out Jackie Hill Perry!
Look at stories about how Jesus interacted and talked to those that the Pharisees thought were "too sinful" for them to talk to. Even the story of Zacchaeus is a great example of how to treat those that you might not agree with their actions or decisions.
Jesus said that even the prostitutes are ahead of the delusional, hate-filled hypocrites, aka Pharisees.
It isn't difficult to know how to react to others when you have love. Love will guide you to talk to the "sinners", find out what drives them, what they struggle with, why they are who they are.
You would be surprised how great is the difference between what we imagine about other "sinners", and what their actual life really is.
I didn’t know we were “supposed” to “react” to the modern LGBT(Q) person. I’m going to ask my queer pastor about this. Seriously … she is one of the most thoughtful, bible-believing, prayerful, loving, gracious, forgiving Christians I know.
This is helpful, because we don’t learn this in church. It’s good to learn the history know understand the differences which explains why there is division among evangelicals.
21:50. Yes please! Make a video for each of these. ☺
These Vids are awesome! The podcast is also fantastic. Thank you
Phil Vischer, God made you special and he loves you very much. ❤
Hey Phil, I grew up with veggie tales, it helped shape my faith from a young age. Seeing these videos helps me walk through the complications of the modern world with a familiar face, thank you for this ministry.
Phil, this was awesome. Thank you for this extremely important knowledge.
Episode 383 of the podcast is one of my favorite episodes ever. Glad you decided to make a video on this topic! Super helpful and important to know the history. Would love to see more videos like this.
This is the best videos on this topic i've ever seen. Thank you so much.
Phil, once again your research and nuance is appreciated. As a young evangelical in a turbulent culture, it’s often difficult to not be discouraged. Y’all do such a great job of holding fast to the Bible while being fairly critical. Thank you.
That’s what we need. More guidance without being overly religious.
I am an atheist, and your videos are inspiring. You are the voice that the christian community needs, and I appreciate the work that you are doing, and I think it is what we need to bring the country together.
What do you think of Jesus.
Who do you think he was.
Why do you think he claimed to be God in the flesh.
If the atheists like it that's all we need to know.
@@michaelmcgrath2380Amen & amen! If Vischer was a Christian they would hate him not embrace him.
@@patrickc3419 Yum, bait
Omg this is a GREAT explanation!! Super important information.
The Best explanation ever....this is pure Gold
Can you keep making videos on these issues like... every day? They're so informative and pull everything together. Watching these gives me hope that I'm not alone in this no man's land of homelessness many of us Christians have found ourselves in. Thank you!
You should definitely subscribe to the podcast! They have been talking about all these things for years on the podcast. In many ways, these videos have been a summary of things they’ve discussed on the podcast so I think you’d love it! 🙌🏻♥️
Although I admire Phil's optimism on the return to it's roots, I believe the term is lost and not recoverable.
Phil and Skye were talking about this on a podcast circa 2016. One or the other thought it was likely the term was on its way out.
At least in the US, probably and unfortunately.
In 2024 even the term Christian is becoming problematic as so many people lump all Christians with the worst of American evangelicalism / fundamentalism / hatred. I don't know if it can be rehabilitated or if a new term is needed, nor what the term might be.
Thank you Phil. Thank you, thank you, thank you!! You’ve helped me immensely this year, with the inspiring video clips from Holy Post, as well as your very fun and informative podcasts. I appreciate you my brother in Christ!! 🕊🙏🏽☺️
Excellent Phil (and Skye & John Fea). You’re probably getting flack for this. Glad to jump in here while comments are still positive. We need this checkered history to be well known if we’re ever going to think critically about our assumptions.
Agreed! ❤️
I am not a believer in God by any stretch of the imagination. I am, however, interested in Christian history and politics. I found this video very informative and engaging and I thank you for producing it, Mr. Vischer.
I am a atheist myself but like you I can't help but be oddly in awe how hate, God, morals, and politics how they all got mixed into one. Kind of like the chicken or the egg which came first?
One.
@@nikkiw.4142Atheists do not exist. Atheism isn’t “there is no God”. Atheism is “I am a god”.
Thank you for this. It’s so good to know that the history of Christianity in America has roots outside of the Southern fundamentalist tradition. I can now hold my head high as I proclaim that I too am an evangelical.
But history shows that LIBERAL really means LIBERATED from white supremacist CHRISTIANITY ideology
@Scott Burn
Everybody just makes everything up according to their own partisanship
@@greglogan7706 True, but only one side has to ignore scripture.
@Scott Burn
No
@@Draezeth
And which side it is depends on your hermeneutic
Thank you!! Pls don’t stop making these videos 🙌
Your videos are awesome, informative, interesting, creative, and, at times, very funny. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for this very succinct and informative history lesson. I grew up in an "evangelical" denomination, but I now consider myself as an Anabaptist. It's good to know more about the roots of today's "evangelicals."
An atheist brought over by your visit to paulogia, real informative video and well presented, cleared up a lot of confusion ive had around the term, and seems my confusion wasnt exactly just on me. good work.
Good, and well made history lesson - thumbs up from an Atheist in Europe
Whew! Phil, thank you for connecting so many dots; especially those that i didn’t know were in need of connecting.
As followers of Christ, we MUST keep the perspective: The world 🌎 is the Mission Field & we are the Missionaries. Period!!!
Now that's some simple truth
What's the mission though? To make people followers of right wing christianity? Evil bastards calling everyone anything and everything that doesn't fit their ideal?
Or is it to tell people God himself took care of sin at the cross?
The mission is to make people followers of Christ period!! Did Cheist welcome prostitutes, tax collectors, blind, the dejected ,the poor? Yes!! I am not saying God approves of gayism, bug God does not hate gays, he created them. They choose what they want, he gave them free will and the ability to overcome too, they can choose to trust him and get back in his plan or choose not to, choice!!! But we preach Christ and him crucified and that's our message@@dw3403
@@dw3403 The world (the mission field) is perishing and will eventually come to an end. Follower of Christ have a Promise Land...that Christ himself is preparing for those who reciprocate to his love. The mission is to point you to the right direction; to Christ. Forget the right wing left wing rhetoric, it’s muddy waters...confusion. Eagles 🦅 need their right & left wings to soar. Jesus is the Truth, the Way, and the Life. To get to Father God, we must go through him... give your life to him & follow him. God is Love. It is a package with everlastingly love that you get.
@@elizabethabamu2878 I have no problem with Christians believing what they believe in. I just want them to stop trying to legislate my life according to their beliefs and leave me alone.
Great history lesson and easy-to-understand explanation of terms we hear in the news all the time. Thanks!
The evangelical movement needs a lot more christians like you to undo the PR taint of Bob Jones, Jerry Falwell and and the far right. As an atheist, your channel gives me hope that, maybe, we're not enemies.
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Thank you for this! I grew up evangelical, but I didn't know a *lot* of this. It explains a lot of divides in evangelicalism that have confused me for a long time.
I'm an ex christian who used to watch a lot of veggie tales. I appreciate the good content from this channel, keep making it, it's important. Even if it doesn't get a lot of view now, I have a good feeling these videos will eventually prove influential.
Why ex Christian
@@watertower1 in large part because I realized many claims of the Bible are unsubstantiated/untrue
@@mymyscellany interesting, are you agnostic or atheist now
@@watertower1 I don't really identify as either. I would technically fall under agnostic but many modern aetheists use the term in a slightly loose sense so I could fall under that camp as well
@@mymyscellany got ya, how have you reconciled the historical resurrection
I just learned so much!! Thank you so much to everyone who is a part of Holy Post. I’ve been so appreciative of all of your videos. Very grounding, educational, encouraging, and most of all a breath of fresh air in these chaotic and unfamiliar times. Thank you so so much for everything you do.
Thank you for this video and all the others you’ve made! It is helpful to learn an accurate version of Christian history. May God continue to bless your work.
Thank you!!! This brought me to tears, it was so deeply helpful to see the fuller picture and make some sense of how strange and displacing it feels to be a follower of Jesus in America right now. Your videos are awesome, please keep them coming!! So needed.
You really make me question checking the "evangelical" box on surveys
And then you got to the part where you said "I haven't given up on the name evangelical"
Fundamentalists blurred the lines with evangelicals to take advantage of their bases and more acceptable branding by the media and main stream.
What needs to happen now is to start calling fundamentalists what they are, fundamentalists.
@@Prometeo59 agreed
@@Prometeo59
EXACTLY!!
"start calling fundamentalists what they are, "
Delusional, domestic terrorists, and bigots as of late
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@@Prometeo59 They are the American Taliban. Sad. They used to be the women who never cut their hair and never wore makeup. The women who rarely worked out of the home for money, the children who only said "Yes sir" and "No ma'am." Today they think they own the USA while it truly is only about 33%-35% of the Republican party, they are the loudest and most vulgar.
This channel deserves way, way more viewers and subscribers
Thank you this was well done and needed.
I really love how you really look deep into the history and culture into these kinds of videos. Keep it up :)
I really love this guy
An informative and straightforward summary of Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism. Thank you for helping me put so many large pieces in their proper places.
It was honestly a crushing feeling seeing the Evangelical and Fundamentalist arrows merge back together. According to this video, I'd be a 'neo-evangelical', and I often find tension with my fundamentalist brothers and sisters over the very subjects of race and the importance of science and philosophy. I pray and hope that a third way can re-emerge yet again. Maybe the politics of our time might become the catalyst for some concerned Christians to draw some important distinctions and engage the world in a more loving and peaceful manner.
I'm seeing that happen more in the Mainline churches. Not all of them are as modernist as Phil says here. Some still hold a very high view of the Bible.
Granted, most have a problem with inerrancy, but really that's a newer concept. The older concept was infallibility, which recognizes stuff like the genre or original intent of the Bible.
This was a great video. Currently doing a paper on Religious and I picked The Evangelical Movement. Very informational.
Very interesting. Keep them coming!
As a student of comparative religions, I found this very informative. I will admit I had a lot of misconceptions due to the blurring of the lines. Thank you for clarifying. I have subscribed to your channel for more information
This got thorough!
“Instead, I want to remind us what the movement is all about.”
God bless you my brother. Your videos are thought-provoking.
Have not heard "It's on like Donkey Kong" since the 80s! I'm so old!! 😀
Bless you, Phil. Keep up the good work! You've been a great influence on my childhood with Veggie Tales and the fact that you continue to teach and inspire now grown-up kids like me is wonderful.
I've read and heard that being called "evangelical" goes all the way back to the Reformation, when Catholics were apparently calling Protestants evangelicals pejoratively to mock us for only keeping to the written gospel and not also the Catholic tradition. Whether that's accurate or not, I definitely found this to be a helpful, engaging and insightful walkthrough of Protestant history over the last 300 years. Thanks :)
Keep teaching, Phil. I so appreciate your voice.
Great work Phil. Keep it up!
After becoming a Christian I joined a Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church which was 99% black. I often found it hard to adhere to the fundamentalist teachings. Our church has evolved and have dropped the independent fundamentalist title. I thank you for these history lessons. As a black male who love Jesus and lives in South Mississippi it is refreshing to hear the truth behind the beliefs that run through the area to which I live. Thanks again.
This man is the bomb!
So well laid out and presented. Very good, and factual info-clip. THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!
You should start making these with the Whats in the Bible puppets, Phil 😂
Man I love everything you Sky and Christian are doing. God bless you and keep up the good work.
👏👏What a gift Phil is!
Thanks Phil, this is awesome! Looking forward to more video breakdowns
Great video. I’d love to see one the topic you mentioned on America’s fixation with the Nation of Israel.
Yes, that would be so fascinating!
Your videos are so informative. And Wow, I just found out you are the creator of VeggieTales. I admire your commitment to serve God with the talents and gifts He has given you. God bless you.
Shout out to the Holy Post! Good stuff, Phil! Keep fighting the good fight!
Thank you, Bob the Tomato, err... Phil Vischer. I appreciate this history lesson, and I admire the spot-on way in which you wove humor, insight, and some hard truths into your telling of it. If only ALL online discourse could be this enjoyable and thought-provoking, maybe we'd all stop and listen and consider others' perspectives more. Keep up the good work!
Amen and amen. Thanks for this. It answers a lot of what I have struggled with about the 2016 election and more. I’m with you let’s reclaim our name.
Thank you for this very thorough elaboration on Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism in 20th century America. I grew up in Romania and attended a fundamentalist baptist church. Thankfully, my parents valued higher education and sent me to Wheaton College. As an outsider to American politics but an insider of the Fundamentalist / Evangelical faith, I found myself in very interesting and yet conflicting conversations with my American friends. This video helped me better understand the development of Fundamentalism, Evangelicalism, politics, and will come in very handy next time the topic comes up. Thank you so much, Phil, for all the hard work that you put in creating this video. God bless you!
That was so educational and interesting!
I really needed this bit of encouragement today. Feels like I've been focusing on all of the negativity around the label of "Evangelical"
What we don't know, always come back to bite us..
Wow, this is incredible. I’d like to see some sources and resources used for this video
Some sources are listed at 22:23 at the end of the video. I'd also recommend listening to episode 383 of The Holy Post podcast for a more in-depth discussion of what is touched on in this video.
A great place to start is George Marsden's The Fundamentalists
Great to see a Nigerian pastor here. Many are falling in line with "White American Evangelical" theology and not understanding what they're doing.
I've wondered about the resources as well, but I'm taking his word regarding this.
If you're puzzled about how Trumpsters continue to act with such impunity in God's name please watch "The Family". This movement isn't about Christ or His ideologies. It's about power, money and far right ideologies.
www.netflix.com/title/80063867?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=wha
Well done ... very informative video. Its presentation was superb!
Evangelicals are what happens when you mix religion with politics.
Thank you very much for this very illuminating presentation. I now have a better understanding of the various factions and why we are in the mess that we’re in!
So we need to start calling fundamentalists what they are, fundamentalists.
We don't care what you call us. True Christians care more about what God says of us than any smears you and Phil want to lob.
Yes, definitely. The distinction is clear. Look at who says All lives matter. Look at the conspiracy theorist lunatics. Look at the science deniers and the anti-maskers. Fundamentalist cult members.
@@EpicKate So if I don't follow a marxist cult like BLM, that makes me a fundamentalist? I don't fit in the other things you said, I just believe the Bible and what the Bible says about partiality and justice.
@@IAmisMaster Way to miss the entire point of the video. Smh.
Fundamentalist?
There is no Christian cornerstone of worship-like deference to the Israelis and demagoguery of a businessman turned politician so how could evangelicals conduct be described as fundamental. Evangelicals are rank among the least fundamental Christians by those who actually read and study the Bible. Moreover, abortion isn’t even directly mentioned in the Bible so I don’t understand how that could be remotely fundamental. Yet, LYING is specifically highlighted as behavior that aligns you with the conduct of Satan so it should behoove any fundamentalist not to habitually lie as well as avoid SUPPORTING or knowingly ASSOCIATING with a habitual liar as did many evangelicals in their support for Trump. (JOHN 8:44; PSALM 101:7; COLOSSIANS 3:9) Christians DIED because they made false statements. Did we forget Ananias and Sapphira? (ACTS 5:1-11) Most evangelicals I’ve spoken to can’t string two coherent scriptural thoughts together to effectively support a belief. That’s not fundamentalism.
I'm not sure why these videos were suggested for me but I'm glad they were. I've watched 4 so far, I'm not American or remotely religious but always willing to learn and I'm learning a lot! Thank you.
I grew up evangelical and I am now a huge critic of the whole movement. I went into this video ready to make a bunch of smart ass remarks but you guys actually did a pretty good job explaining it in a non bias way
I am not a believer in any supreme being or beings. I started not believing based on how god fearing persons behaved but If I knew a christian like you I would have kept believing, I say all that to say, your videos are among the best most educational I have ever seen on TH-cam. Your researched based facts are so informative I could be used in universities. Thanks for all the hard work you put into making your videos.
As a black american christian, I've raised all 3 of my daughters on veggie tale movies and to have a personal relationship with Christ. For the life of me, I've been scratching my head trying to figure out what is going on with White Christians, why arent they being compassionate about my community? I was even thinking, well geez- if Billy G. was alive he wouldn't stand for any of this non sense! He would stand with the Black community. But NOW I know and I see clear! Thank you soooo much for being a TRUE example of Christ. Now, I just wish there was more white Christians like you. Thank you :) - And I know you will get some hate for this video- but Honesty is sooooooo important!
Thank you for the informative video. I had heard the term evangelical used a lot but never had it explained to me.
7:50 This is, to me the SINGLE biggest problem with American Christianity today.
It has slowly become an insular cult disconnected with not only the world outside the church, but ever since 2016, from reality itself.
I don't really have words for how much that breaks my heart.
OKAAAY Thank you
Phil, thanks for breaking it down and making it plain. What you teach here gives clarity regarding the "hot mess" and helps me make sense of my frustration with this country.
Thanks again