I Actually Watched it... - High Guardian Spice "Anime" Review
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The Anime Review no one exApected, but ya'll REALLY wanted me to review... High Guardian Spice... four girls go to school to become guardians... is there anything else? Let's find out as I watch ALL the episodes so you don't have to... sigh...
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Here we go. A minute before the Premiere and the image she used for the Tumbnail means it was *BAD* like Torturely bad.
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I watched all of High Guardian Spice. It’s pretty good
Full SONG of IDGAF when? :))
The real testament of this show is how creative people are at expressing how bad the show is.
Especially your friend's song! I want it!
This is an example of a show where "You can watch it for Free, and you still felt robbed" kind of show.
Instead of robbing you of your money, it instead robs you of your time you could use watching better shows.
time is money after all
@@whatevr99 and your sanity, don’t forget your sanity
@@DarkKnightofAnime you will heal by jamie de donga's re-wrote version
Is it me, or does Totally Spies have richer animation than High Guardian Spice?
Yeah I noticed that too
I'm sure Totally Spies didn't use PNGs with watermarks still on them as in their background.
Yes.
Code Lyoko had Richer Animation than High Guardian Spice
Yes and winx club and kim possible and anything else
I love how in the high guardian spices trailer they say “our cast is very diverse” but they also say “our writers room is 100% female”
100% WHITE Female to be exact
@@curefestive1774 and they all hold the same far-left political beliefs.....
Yeah they don't know what diversity means do they
@@imperialphoenix1229 diversity means shoehorn in groups you consider minorities without realising that you're undermining them in the process because you wouldn't have hired them otherwise
@@imperialphoenix1229 >far left
Imagine thinking this.
@@connor237 Where's the lie?
"They tried to create a diverse workforce, hiring mostly women"
*w h a t*
Idk-
White women to be exact. So diverse indeed.
Ah yes, *d i v e r s e*
_Say that again, but slowly..._
Ah yes, the most diverse of the American population, white women with something to prove. /sarcasm
7:08 - 7:30 This entire song is literally funnier than any piece of dialogue from the actual HGS show itself. Thank you Robyn for your service. The weeb community thanks you. You are a true American hero for speaking the thoughts of the people.
That song is far better and catchier than it has any reason to be
I wish the song was longer. It deserves a full song!
"IDGAF"- Robyn.
@@Crossing-Blades I've listed to this song 10 times.......... And counting
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
IDGAF is the next big hit.
I came back to listen to it again, and I’m crying right now. I love it! 🤣🤣
It's interesting how Amyrillis, a literal bully, is actually a better friend to Snapdragon than anyone else in the entire show about "best friends" is to any of their friends. Their friendship feels genuine, because even though they're very different as people, they're supportive of one another and makes it easy for me to see why they're friends. This ends up being frustrating, though, because if they could do that with them, what the hell kept them from making the four main girls' friendship natural and believable? Oh, right. They thought if they just said they were friends, we'd instantly believe and like it.
That's HGS for you. There's a LOT of telling and not enough showing.
The fact that prof Carroway is obviously the director’s self insert honestly really overshadows anything they really wanted to do with him
Plus it gives insight to how big there ego is.
Caroway represents EVERYTHING wrong with 'diverse' characters. What do you know about him?
"i'M tRaNsGeNdEr."
If the only thing there is to know about your character is that they're a checkmark on a woke checklist, THEY ARE NOT GOOD CHARACTERS.
And this goes double for Sage's cousins as well. WE GET IT, YOU'RE LESBIANS.
@@elrodrigo6188 dont watch the show but what does he even teach? Old/new magic? Doesnt the old teacher do that?
@@Crobat7269 I watched the show and I still don’t entirely know. Runes maybe. Maybe magic combat. He could just straight up just be the gender teacher at this stage.
@@Crobat7269 LobsterHero is doing a full breakdown of the entire series episode by episode because he wanted to give it a fair shake, rather than dogpile. It somehow gets even worse, as characters constantly contradict themselves or seemingly only exist for brief moments. One of the main takeaways so far is that outside of the terrible writing, there is a absolutely no structure to the story. It’s never established what guardians actually “do”. The whole idea that this massive school only has like 4 teachers is kinda bonkers as well. He also agrees that the only good/okay-written characters in the whole series are Amaryllis, Snapdragon, and to a lesser extent Aster. They actually have traits that make them flawed-but-likable, compared to the annoyingly angsty self-inserts.
I love how everyone who hates this show can at least all agree that Snapdragon is the best character and deserves to be in a better show.
Just listening to this review I can agree with that. I mean the show itself basically just drags him down with it's writers toxic hatred of masculinity ruining his background and forcing certain plot points onto him just so the writers can express how much they openly want all men to die.
But seperate him from the toxic writing and as a character he sounds great and would do great with better writing that's trying to be entertaining and not trying to preach ideology and woke politics to people.
@@metazoxan2 Seriously, it's like their take on men are "Men are good if they're POC, trans, or want to be a woman instead" and like??? How toxic is that?? Ugh, the more I learn about this show the more I hate it. Snapdragon could have been an *amazing* character if he were written more competently and put in a far better show.
Concept art showed Snapdragon was going to be more of a brooding bishounen, but the writers pretty much are saying that pretty boys can't exist as boys whether they're straight or gay. It comes off as them trying to "atone" for loving older BL series/characters that are now considered "problematic" today. Which Raye admitted to in an interview.
@@KumoriGurasu it really feels like they're saying, "you like girly things as a guy? must be a girl. no way a cis guy could like nail polish or dresses. nope. must secretly be a girl. all girl."
it gets so confusing especially when you factor in all the stereotype gender arguments they try to say shouldn't determine what gender you are. but then go and apply those same stereotypes to their character.
@@whitemoonwolf13 It's cause not applying the gender stereotypes messes with the narrative. Tomboys being girls and pretty boys being boys goes against the narrative. Instead even if it may cause harm tomboys are really boys and pretty boys are really girls. That's honestly an abusive message and forces people into boxes that they wouldn't be in if they didn't have the idea forced into their head in most cases at a way too young age
Carroway is the perfect example of a trans character (a character who's main defining trait is that their trans) instead of a character who is trans (a 3 dimensional character, with goals, fears, hobbies and interests, who just happens to be trans)
Actually look at Catherine the game you’ll find a really good one if you play classic
@@Ace_BlackStar Erica is in full body too
@LTNetjak Right. Personally, I think that we should accept characters being diverse and it not being a big part of their character. If the fact that a character is trans hasn’t been relevant in 3 seasons, that’s fine! You don’t have to have a racism side plot every season when you have a person of color in your main cast, everyone just sees them, recognizes they have that trait, and moves on.
@@williamchuba9397i think the point was that if the transition is convincing and they dont bring it up themselves people wont know a character is trans unless that is central to the plot, kind of like saying dumbledore is gay. He never has any romantic interactions in harry potter so the audience wouldnt know, at least with race people see that automatically if its a visual medium so it can be present without being hamfisted
The staff isn't even diverse. They just came off thinking their entire writing team solely being white women considers them being diverse when they're no different from a crew of all male staff. The animation community already is one of the most diverse industries ever to exist. What Crunchyroll made was literally the OPPOSITE of diverse.
Like where are the other races? Where are the other men/trans women to balance out the team?
Plus one of the directors making several tweets of their hatred for men is also clear evidence for this
Sounds like most of the Biden administration.
The person who posted about the hatred of men was Kate Leth one of the Shows writers
according to them, deverse = liking the same gender, being overweight, and haviing colored hair.
@@Dekomata "myess i've never heard of that term before but that sounds correct"
The creator, Raye Rodriguez is a trans man. That's all I can think of, though.
To stretch a metaphor: it doesn’t matter what ingredients you have, but how you use them.
It also helps if those ingredients haven't been eaten at least once before you start
And the ingredients being bought from a unreliable source.
Because, wtf is a guardian?
@@talltroll7092 That's just wrong and inexcusable. Then again, so is this show, so I suppose it fits.
Agreed
you know, spices are not really ingredients. you need some meat and dough or whatever. you can't cook just thyme and and rosmarine and call the result a dish.
Considering one of the writers went on several rants about killing men and aborting baby boys (in graphic detail) its no surprise that all the male characters are garbage or trans.
Like Snapdragon sounds like he wants to embrace his feminine side and they they go straight into transitioning? WHA!? You can be feminine and still be a guy.
yeah, exactly!! way to enforce gender roles…
Yup. It's misandrist alphabet propoganda, of the laziest sort.
It's a good thing this shitshow wasn't popular or influential, and was regard as the crap pile it truly was. I would hate if someone watched this at a young age and felt like the only way to be feminine or masculine is to transition. Also, it seems very predatory that the adult trans teacher is telling the teenage boy about transitioning, and then waving off that there are other ways of achieving his goal. Seems pretty scummy and manipulative.
@@kurusgyros7365 I wound up being extremely traditionally masculine but with also a feminine side. I work with firearms for a living, I provide a significant proportion of my own sustenance by hunting, I love violent entertainment, I am a certified lech, swear constantly, love bourbon, and my favorite color is pink, I have 4 cats, I eat up romance novels, do the cooking at home, and get manicures. And I feel extremely manly and love being a man. With all the muscles, sweat, aggression, and humor that comes with it. And if I met a woman who loves Harley Davidson, death metal, machine guns, and blacksmithing, but also knitting, makeup, dresses, weddings, and romcoms, I'd take her at her word as to who she is and what she likes, without trying to force assume a gender that she must have. Most people have a mix between masculine and feminine traits. For example, my sergeant would seem like a prototypical Western man, down to the Sam Elliott stasche, and he worked as a roughneck for 8 years with the missing fingers to prove it. And he loves baking and sharing his newest confections with the rest of the staff. The barmaid in town is absolutely 200% mega girly, and also has a thing for the goriest horror movies out there, and has an interest in real life grisly stories and images. The idea you have to fit perfectly into Box A or Slot B is patently ridiculous. If I had children, I would tell them about this freedom of self.
I really cannot stand how the show is like “if you have feminine traits, become a woman”.
I am just upset seeing how the professor was just like “become a woman and all your problems are solved!!” That’s just not the way to learn about accepting yourself as you are.
To me, Snapdragon wasn’t going for “I wanna be a woman.” He was going for “I am a guy but I wanna be strong in the graceful way girls are like.”
Painting nails doesn’t mean he has to be a woman to do it. Wearing dresses doesn’t mean he needs to be a woman to do it.
We live in a world where men wear nail polish of any colour. Where even old men are free to wear skirts and dresses. Where guys can dress up as female characters in an anime or game!!! The writing just shows the lack of awareness the writing team really has on the societal issues.
The show rly tried too hard with the representation that they not only upset the LGBTQ demographic, they forgot how to make a story make sense.
Your parody song was amazing.
Your yelling was on point.
Was glorious overall. You survived!
Can we get the full version of that song. That was so fucking EPIC!!!
IGAF about that!!!
@@SinisterSama the whole seasons plot points roasted in a beat that slaps. Um YES PLEASE
What was the original song if you don't mind me asking?
@@firedbones11realvids Idgaf- Watsky
I busted out laughing at that song
A couple years past, I have drawn up and written my ideas wanting to making an anime of my own.
But after seeing how reality works (in terms of business and marketing), not to mention the HGS trailer completely dropping the ball on teaser trailer, I'm rather hesitant in putting those ideas to life.
But then again, I'll probably make something at least better than Ex-Arm or High Guardian Spice.
I feel the same as well. But if you dont share you'll never get anywhere with constructive criticism.
@@strawberrymanga9 That's not really the issue I have, I'm willing to better myself any chance I get whenever my work isn't up to snuff.
I'm just worried that my idea won't be good or interesting enough to get off the ground.
Like, maybe I could always try doing it independently but it would still be quite costly and time consuming.
I dunno, I just don't want to fall into the trap of presenting a lousy teaser trailer.
I would encourage you to keep on. HGS,Ex-Arm, and RWBY should all be lessons on what to do and not to do when making your work. They are lessons for you to make a better work.
@@cecemetro True. And I'm looking to make a better artstyle of my own and so forth.
Just write a novel. That is what I did with my video game project. And once it hits, the anime adaptation will come.
Parsley's dad needs to learn the age old technique called "pulling out". The man KNOWS his baby maker is potent, but does nothing about it. The fact that his wife can still walk is a miracle.
Anal. Blowjobs. Condoms. There has got to be a magical contraceptive somewhere.
Anal. Blowjobs. Condoms. There has got to be a magical contraceptive somewhere.
He used to be a H protagonist in his youth
Pulling out doesn't work a lot of times, so maybe that's why he has so many kids
This show was literally made by a team of writers who are just Karens. They grasp onto a cause, selfish or not, crank it to 11 immediately and leave people confused and worried for their safety as the council of Karens scream at them about topics like transgender and lesbians'. They rather brute force the message, than lead up to it. They'd rather say the solution to the math problem rather than explain the method and path to the answer.
I can confirm this. Check out the pink hair chick's twitter some time. You'll be amazed.
@@Falcovsleon21 It turns out she's a man hater and the creators must have copied the ending, which reminds me of the ending credits from Azumanga Daioh.
@@lorenadavila5580 Yeah that's kind of what I was getting at.....wait did you say they ripped off Azumanga Daioh?
::quick search::
Oh my god, they did. I mean technically you could debate that it's more of a reference or homage but that would be giving these people too much credit.
Being transgender is explained (kinda) once, and never talked about again. Meanwhile the means of transitioning is portrayed as villainous and championed by villainous men.
They prefer to build a safe zone to an overly sensitive people and have a shit anime than making it slightly offensive and an amazing anime
The thing about Snap dragon that I didn't like is that you can be a sensitive guy with out been gay or trans or bi sexual.
Just like there are tomboys there are guys who aren't super strong badass men, and are still men.
Mr. Rogers and Steve were one of those men, he was sensitive, cute, and very wise men who always give wholesome mesages yet they are still men.
They didn't want to dress up as girls or transition, they like been guys but they weren't like your steryotipical macho.
They just don't get it and they never will. Theses are the same kind of people on Twitter that would given a chance. Take away male targeted characters for role models and twist them into woke garage.
@ForeverDreamWithinADream Take Hiccup from HTTYD from instance. He's a sensitive guy who isn't a strong buff Viking leader of the village like his dad, but he's still a man in his own ways like being resourceful. And the first movie was all about how he feels about following his dad's footsteps in becoming a dragonslayer just to test his manhood.
@@sunspotmill1291 Yknow I completely forgot about that. Probably bc it was subtle and integrated so well into the story. And they didn’t make his dad out to be bad, it’s obvious he cared for his son, he just didn’t know how to relate to him
@@awsomedude23456 And even then, his dad's love for his mom, and the way he genuinely cared for his people were also really strong yet soft at the same time. An absolutely well written father figure, and a "man's man," showing that while you might not be perfect, even the buffest, literal viking dragonslayer of a man can have feelings and emotions, and not just be a stoic house.
I think that would've been a better lesson, or maybe if he decided that he was non-binary or gender fluid, which also could've been interesting, but I'm going to say it's pretty much moot at this point
7 minutes in and all I can think is "If she doesn't realease a full version of her IDGAF as its own single, then the world is unfair." (seriously, the song slaps).
7:10 To those who want to hear it.
@Aaron Olden
Let me tell you how I got my sword!
It's my mom's! She's not dead and...
IDGAF
So, a bird-haired girl gets angry because someone questions their way of thinking, and instead of engaging she just runs away and demands an apology? why does that sound so familiar
Being a Soul Eater fan makes you pretty cool.
@@megamillion5852 I don't get it, pls explain.
-Why does blue hair cause mental degredation on some people?-
What does it remind you of? I'm curious.
@@bulldowozer5858 Because blue is the color cyanide gas leaves behind...
From what I seen from reviews, The show tries to say that what Snap Dragon's dad did was bad? But from what I saw what the dad did. He basically was teaching, If You want to save something or someone. You have to take action. You have to stand up against things even if they scare you. Is that bad? Even women have to do that at time. What is the point of a guardian, if they don't stand up and take action? That whole thing kinda gives me mixed signals. Do the girl guardians just talk it out? or do they fight in this show?
Yknow it’s funny, we never actually learn what guardians technically do, or are
I think you expect too much from a show that has a team of woke karens as the writing staff.
Looking for a deeper meaning than "Male = Bad" in this sort of show is an exercise in futility.
In theory it's all well and good, but threatening Snapdragon by holding something hostage is just... Like, did he seriously expect anyone to like him after that? It's bad enough to do that to a teenager, but that's some serious trauma for a kid. It doesn't matter if it's the dad or the mom, that's just a bad way to go about teaching that
@@wolfywonder8480 Some of the most important lessons are don by trauma. This is particularly true for solders, or warriors. If you compare this to how they teach in a real life Boot Camp for thousands of years, Snapdragon's dad is being extremely tame, and way more loving. And this lesson will help SnapDragon defend something from real danger from something that wont relent.
The problem is, we never saw dad scolding older brother.
Please release a full version of that "I don't give a fuck" song. I genuinely loved it.
How much more difficult is transforming one's gender than transforming into a completely different species? A transgender story line doesn't make sense in this setting because it should be so mind numbingly easy that everyone would try it on a whim and nobody would blink an eye. "Hey kids, for spirit week today is opposite gender day, tomorrow is crazy sock day."
And what's with the vows? Be willing to die for the school! Not your friends, not your loved ones, not your nation. . . the school. With all of the dangers in the lesson I think student death is the objective and learning is an unwanted byproduct.
Crazy sock day sounds more exciting than anything that this show has introduced, think about it. People could wear cool socks and some of those socks could be magic and you could have some interesting stories about characters and their socks.
@@toasteethetoaster5978 socks with issues that they need to work through. The High Guardian Spice / Infinity Train mashup you have been waiting for. . . Except Infinity Train is actually way more interesting and coherent, so it would completely throw the spice girls off their game.
That entire scene is so contrived, like, why should I care that this random teacher is taking a potion to turn into a man? There's no reason to care that he's trans and the statement comes out of nowhere.
Writers, was it really that hard to look at your first draft and see that this doesn't work?
@@ScorbunGame Writers have beta readers. Film makers have test audiences. They could easily have found someone to bounce an idea off of. It's pretty clear that they didn't do that though. Test audiences would have said, "What's with the audio quality?" "Why does some of the background look like clip art?" "Why do the characters clip through objects?" "You know how the main characters are all annoying? Could they not be?"
@@toasteethetoaster5978 im a beast at crazy sock day
HGS needs the Ghost Stories treatment but opposite, rewrite the whole thing, completely redub it with actual voice actors, edit out the blood and give it to Netflix or whatever and it can be an okay older kid/tween oriented show, nothing great or groundbreaking but just okay. Also it needs to be renamed to High Guardian Herb because Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme are herbs, not spices!
Even that wouldn't save it since you wouldn't be able to rewrite the abandoned murder plan that one villain did. The ADV quotes just felt like filler.
I kind of do want someone brave/good enough to make an abridged version.
It does not deserve it
Paid for by an abridged series of the source material
@@James-kd6kf or go full Mystery Science Theater with it
HGS: We know how to make emotional characters!
Arcane: *Amateurs!!!*
Primal: They hardly scratch the surface.
Arcane legit single handedly made it impossible for empty tripe like HGS to ever be taken seriously
and gods bless them for that
The soundtrack dear lord the soundtrack is freaking amazing Playground Goodbye and Misfit Toys are my faves
Berserk has more emotion, and it's an apocalyptic medieval blood fest
me: even i'm better..........and i suck!
Snap Dragon: "Can't I be Strong and Beautiful?"
Sephiroth: "Oh, I can Help."
Armstrong: "Let me help too! "💪❤
Kars : "Strength can be beauty!"
@@beastwarsFTW "But Sex is useless!"
But those as masculine and apparently Snap Dragon's backstory explicitly declares that to be evil.
@@metazoxan2 DIVERSITY!
*Griffith struts into the conversation*
I can agree that High Guardian Spice HAD good intentions of being a diverse anime with relatable characters but how it was poorly executed with missing plot points and forced themes did NOT do the show justice.....not to mention one of the animator's vocal misandry on Twitter landing the show in more hot water even after the negative reception
@Tin Watchman
Except that's not what those Tweets were about, more to do with how seeing or thinking about humans interacting normally with one another made her want to kill all men. Also, that's not even why she said she did it, she claimed to have been "Tumblrpilled" whatever the hell that means.
@Tin Watchman Honestly if I had to deal with the "criticism" of anyone who uses "woke" as a pejorative, I'd probably want them to also stop breathing.
Reading the replies this show gets makes me majorly depressed that people are more specifically mad about "politics" and not the shows quality.
@Tin Watchman
Nope. Stop making excuses.
It so bad, it has less than 1.9 on imdb
First problem: having it reflect the state of our current society to the letter. These kinds of people must learn that the modern audience is a myth 🙄
I’m disappointed that the “one good character” wasn’t Olive. Her design actually works, she’s well animated and her voice actress has been around the block. I genuinely like her scenes.
As someone whose favorite character of the show IS Olive.. I do see where people come from when they say they prefer Snapdragon, as Olive does have some pretty rough moments. Wish more people liked her, but the cliche "here's the cat girl" prolly turned a lot of people off. Always thought her outfit (plain as it might be) and moves were adorable tho
Around the block?
@@michaelbecket4901 she’s done work for the Sailor Moon and Sonic franchises!
She’s above this content.
@@nickdegugs7190 ah makes sense id like a spinoff with her spindragon and the weirdly buff cat lol
@@michaelbecket4901 don't forget Slime Boy
The thing about Snapdragon is I'm confused as to rather he wants to be transgrender or he was to be a feminine male. The line with him is so hard to see and hard to tell.
That is because, everyone around them (since i don't know how they identify) asume how they feel instead of having a sensible honest conversation.
I mean, given to better writers, that could have been an interesting inner conflict like it can be in real life. Hell, there’s this one guy on TH-cam who did animatic rewrites of both the Professors introduction and Snapdragon talking about their dysphoria and they’re SO MUCH BETTER
@@theonegoldengryphon I've seen those videos, and its even more absurd that a rando in the internet have a much better hindsight about this sensitive topic than an actual company with millions of dollars burned away from a dead on arrival show.
Snapdragon's words and desires do seem to be pretty trans to me. Like, wanting smaller hands? that's not something someone who isn't trans would typically say or even give a second thougth about. As well as his 'guys and girls' breakdown, certainly seeme to me like a BAD dysphoria attack.
Of course, ebing trans myself, I could just be projecting on any potential representation >.>
Maybe they planned to do some character arc about their gender identity issues, but I don't think we are gonna see that at the end. The show is a mess.
There’s this one person on TH-cam who made alternate animatics of a few scenes in the show, and they’re really damn good! This could have been something if it had better writers
I want a link to this
@@charliekahn4205 th-cam.com/video/IImRpygg9p0/w-d-xo.html
@@charliekahn4205 theyre called jaime de jonge but i cant link their video
Character: hi. I’m a cisgender male who has no problem with anyones gender or identity and have complete respect for everyone.
HGS: WE DON’T BELIEVE YOU MONSTER!
character: 😨🥺
That literally happened to me when I got into a debate with someone over a video game character.
@@Yojimbo16 damn, that's rough, bro. What happened in the end?
@@ARStudios2000 I gave up trying to reason with them. They cared more about trying to find a "Gotcha!" to "prove" I'm a transphobic bigot.
And the funny thing was, I literally never said anything offensive towards the LGBT Community. Never insulted them, used slurs, threatened them, etc. Heck, I never even said he was wrong for supporting them.
All I said was, "It's against my Religion to support it but I know to love the Sinner but hate the Sin."
@@Yojimbo16 Yeah, thats about what happened to me.
Used the word faggit in the dialogue of a Scottish witch, who was using it to refer to a demon's multiple arms (if you know the actual dictionary meaning of faggot, its bundle of sticks). one o these freaks jumped on my case for transphobia.
@@ARStudios2000 I think it's also a term for a cigarette as well.
The best thing I did when interacting with these people is never giving them the "Hateful Bigot" they're looking for. Instead of cussing them out despite the strong temptation, I say to them, "God Bless You."
Snapdragon should be able to be soft and strong without having to change his gender, in my opinion. It's 2021, I thought we'd be breaking gender roles by now without needing to call boys "girls" just cause they're not the masculine ideal. Then again, he apparently reveals that he sorta hates his body which means dysphoria and whatnot, but it just kinda comes out of nowhere?? He's obviously comfortable enough with his body to crossdress as a femboy mermaid and... It'd be so much more radical if he were just a straight crossdresser. It's called having a different gender expression, and THAT'S. OK.
I agree with you.
I dunno, form the few clips I've seen its clear to me at least his dysphoria has been somethign they've been alluding to for a while. Femboys are valid and crossdressing is valid, but it seems to me like snapdragon was intended to be trans for a while. Not that it matters I suppose.
@@sarafontanini7051 Snap's VA has confirmed that the character would eventually transition, which would have definitely become a plot point in season 2. I've no issue of Snapdragon being trans IF the progression is believable and somehow relevant to the story at large, but because they left the show to languish for two years only for Crunchyroll to clean their hands of it by releasing it in public for free, it's not very likely we'll get to see what the journey is gonna look like. Hence, why as of now, his (or her) arc feels rather hollow.
Maybe he’s just still exploring
Agreed. it's the same logic that says all tomboys have to be trans nowadays just because they're more comfortable with a more masculine form of self-expression. Why can't we have male characters that are more comfortable with feminine forms of self-expression without having to make them all trans?
I will say the best thing that came out of the anime was the memes, that makes me excited to see the abridged version when it comes out. I agree that the story is bad and this is why Japanese light novels and manga are an essential check point before investing millions of dollars into an animated production, it would also explain why the show got rejected by Frederator and once before by Crunchyroll. If they cut a lot of the fat from this series like episode 1, 11 and 12, started with a reworked episode 7 where the dungeon is the entrance exam, episode 6 as a aptitude exam to see what tracks the cast will be going down and ended the series with episode 8, 9 and 10, then put that extra time into world building and character devolopment like having Café that Aloe and Anise own and run, a place where Rosemary and Sage work and other characters visit like Professor Caraway (never liked that "we go to the same parties line" when we see no parties), explaining what a Guardian is and their role in the world and having a martial training montage (show us how Rosemary suddenly got good at using a sword).
The way everything is going for the show it is that they have put everything into teasing season 2 by not explaining the world and under developing characters in season 1
Wait... they never explain what a Guardian is beyond a generic adventurer?
@@tanith117 they never said a Guardian was an adventurer, it an optional part of the learning process, even the true Guardian's vow was too vague for that, best thing I can call them by the vow is an Academic Protector. All we know about Guardian is that at the academy they study ethics, sacred alphabets, metallurgy, potions, battle tactics and something called the everything hours which includes and chosen only by the students pottery, ballet, martial arts, music, gymnastics (I could be wrong for all we see is them using a tight rope), drawing and adventures, what I find funny is when a urgent rescue mission (episode 11) comes up the students are put through a test to see who goes on a "urgent rescue mission".
HGS got rejected by Crunchyroll before? When did that happen and what made them accept to making it?
@@mathewricafrente5984 According to the wiki, it was created and pitched to Frederator in 2013 and in 2016 was pitched to Crunchyroll. It developed into a comic in 2017 and in 2018 Claire Stenger worked on the documents for the repitch.
I saw someone say the parties line was a hint at a poly relationship.
About that episode where Sage's got her feelings hurt:
It's likely she was dealing with a lot of stress due to struggling with new magic (including fearing her mother's reaction about practicing new magic) and the bullying from Amaryllis (and Professor Redbud to some extant). So it's understandable for her to break down and cry from Thyme's minor comment being the last straw, because when you get a lot of stress built up, even the smallest inconvenience can make you snap.
The problem was that every single character got on Thyme's ass for "bullying Sage", including Sage herself, when all she did was agreeing with Amaryllis that they were wasting time (They got stuck working on a task after class because Sage was not willing to use new magic to do it). Sage snapping was not her fault.
Yeah, it would have been really good of Sage spent the episode learning to deal with the meltdown, and owning up to it.
I've done it. Had a really rough time, been stressed and tired, and one coworker did something to set me over the edge, and I went OFF.
But I went home after that, realosed what I did, and apologized for taking it out on him, when he didn't actually do anything wrong. I was mad at other people for other things. He was just the last straw to send me into a meltdown. It wasn't his fault, and the next day I pulled him aside to apologise in private.
If Sage had a similar arc she would have been a much more interesting character. Learning to take responsibility for your emotions is a hard thing, and learning to manage them is even harder. Especially for teenagers.
And to be a little bit fair, there's also the fact that in an earlier scene that episode Thyme expressed her opinion on New Magic, which was, verbatim: "I don't mess with that shit." So Thyme being okay with using New Magic just to get an assignment over with and not standing with or helping Sage on her stance would sting.
Sage still overreacted, though. Big time. And like you said, the show still tried to treat it like it was Thyme's fault and she was attacking Sage, which just wasn't the case.
Thyme didn't even bother contributing to the assignment. That's what everyone SHOULD have been angry at her for, but they weren't.
In fact, I think we could have a more stable story if we swapped Sage's and Thyme's roles - Thyme asking if she could do the assignment with her Old Magic, Amaryllis and Redbud shaming her, and Sage being too intimidated to speak in Thyme's defense (at first). Heck, this could have been the episode that affirms how Thyme is "terrible at magic" (as she claims in Ep10) and been what gets Rosemary and Sage to open up to her more.
the sad part is that, the twist with the mother could have been a good story arc leading to it, like seeing hits of her mother here and there actually doing that thing of "looking" for the mother instead of doing nothing, for like half a season, and her being actually involved with the attack in the school and the characters figthing and in the end the protagonist find out that her mother wasthe cause of all and then you wait for season 2 wich could star by the protagonist entering in a 5 stages of duel while trying to make sense of why her mother would do such things
and would you look it at, i worte a better story arc in just 5 minutes, but is not like they set the bar high
Rose could have been accosted by someone remembering how her heroic mother Lavender saved them from bandits or peril, there could be old trophies belonging to Lavender in Rose's home, a thank you letter for her heroic deeds, even a statue in her honor if we want to go over the top. We get curious to see this brave warrior woman who died to make the world a better place. And then, when she turns out to be a villain, it comes off as a legit surprise.
@@miticaBEP07 see you also made a better story on what i guess was 5 to 10 minutes,
@@marcoalcaraz7218 I just used visual cues to show what I’ve been told about Lavender.
If Rose was ASHAMED of Lavender and wanted to be a heroine to rid herself of her shadow one would have done the opposite, with people yelling at her for her parenthood, her house being in depth and even her pink hair being a dye to differentiate herself from her.
Thanks a lot for the compliment btw, I myself have an action story with queer leads brewing up and I am so afraid it becomes the next High Guardian Spice.
Make your story dude, ill read it
@@asifishan1221 maybe i will
Parsley, Sage , Rosemark and Thyme are HERBS. Not spices.
Basically grasses since "herb" is Latin for "grass".
... Oh my gosh, you're right
They make the herbs, we need 7 more characters who make the spices
Wait, _High Guardian Herb_ ? Hi, Herb. Herbie.
Except for that, actually sounds better. Alliteration!
Taken from the song Scarborough Fair, which also inspired the guns of the same name in Bayonetta.
Snapdragon still grinds my nervess because he shows off the writers Misandry.
They go out of their way to make most of the straight male characters really unlikable, stupid or weak and they over do it with LGBT romances.
Then they give us snapdragon who is interested in Sage even though she kinda mean to him. Sage gives a pretty sexist talk about how girl freindships are deeper then guy friendship (which only shows off how out of touch with reality the 100% female writing staff is). Snapdragon dragon gets mad and pushes back on her but not because the writers think Sage is wrong about men and that she's being a horrible person, but because he's really trans. Snapdragon can have deep freindship because he's not really boy but a girl. Then he gets a "male' mentor in a transman (who use to be a woman which is better then being a cis male) and tell him to consider transitioning......I just realized how creepy that is for a teacher to tell that to his underage student.........
They ironically use snapdragon to enforce the idea that real straight men can't ever have emotions, or can't have deep freindships, and have to be tough 24/7. If you don't fit that description then you must not really be a guy but a girl (which the show thinks is superior).
I think it would've been better if Snapdragon really was just a boy who liked feminine things and show the difference between just liking things that are traditionally masculine or feminine and being actually trans and you could still have Carraway telling him to try using magic to change his sex but Snapdragon doesn't feel comfortable as a female and realizes he still identifies as a boy and just wants to be able to be open about his interests without being judged.
@@annieandelsieofarendelle3294 that's what I really liked about Pripara. And it was made to sell toys and the arcade machine. There's this one character: Leona who's the twin to Dorothy. Now, Dorothy is the hardheaded twin and likes to get rough while Leona is soft spoken and like cute things even tho he's a guy. Even surprises the main group since they at first assumed Leona to be a girl from their mannerisms.
Theres a later arc where Leona reaffirms that they don't need to change themselves for others because they're fine the way they are.
@@leonishikino6873 Exactly.
Snapdragon hadn't really expressed much in the way of gender dysphoria, and his complex honestly seemed more like he was afraid of turning into those 'ugly', burly brute men he disliked so much. He wanted to be beautiful, and that could have been accomplished WITHOUT resorting to magical HRT!
Not to mention the beautiful, rosy Bishounen swordsman is a time-honoured trope! Sephiroth and Griffith are just the first examples that came to mind, and they were sure as hell more beautiful anything this show ever came up with!
@@Mikazuchireborn literally all of the Shitennou from sailor moon, extremely beautiful men that are also masculine warriors. I mean ffs, sailor moon even easily reversed it with the Sailor Stars and Sailor Uranus.
Don't get me started on reverse harem animes where its basically the plot
What’s this I smell? *Sniff…sniff…* An amazing roast of absolute trash? What perfection! Thank you Anime America. Edit: Holy cow this is the most liked comment I’ve ever seen!
And that is some brilliant trash to review
These likes are bullets for an lmg to put this monster down aka hgs.
How do u like ur roasted review: rare, medium, or well-done?
@@axl1178 Let me get one medium. Trade you a s’more made from the flames.
@@axl1178 burnt so bad it has a sut taste
A problem I have with Thyme design is that she keeps reminding me of a werewolf. To me she looks more like a werewolf than an elf
Edit : a reply makes me realize I should elaborate: the fangs she has reminds me of Clawdeen from Monster high
Because she has curly hair?? And brown skin?
@@Yun-jr1ln no it’s because of her teeth.
With that teeth she reminds of Clawdeen.
@@Isokatmydydecsf Same
I can't see her resemblance to a werewolf.
Shes closer to a vampire imo
@@josephzs1208 yeah that too
Even with Snapdragon being a decent character, it ends up feeling like he's still only there to be used as *only* a trans plot to throw in the story and further their "men bad" themes that whether or not they're trying (looking at the personalities who are writers, I can't say I don't believe it's accidental) has been present throughout the show. He doesn't want to be big manly man, but that doesn't mean he *has* to be a girl to be happy, it's just another adult pushing him an opposite way that he could regret. He stood up to make the point that he's a boy and boys can have deep meaningful relationships when Sage said he couldn't, now it's ok that he has these relationships that other boys don't because "maybe he's actually a girl", and now she seems extra interested in him that he seems to let out more feminine traits. That also brings up the odd ship teasing, idk about everyone else but I wouldn't want to date someone who told me "you're a girl you can't do/feel this" and then start being attracted to me after I start acting or looking masculine in some way.
They even had "masculine father was bad" and "masculine brother was a bully," making all the examples of masculine men in his life terrible people. It's very easy to look at a situation like that and think "Well if that's what being a masculine man means, I don't want to be that."
IDGAF
@@Dim4323 it’s just an opinion m8 🤷
Squi- I mean slime boy and parsley were the only character I found pretty likable in the cartoon tbh
Ah, a fellow Milk Enjoyer
Parsley has a sweet ass (and a pretty sweet design overall), slime boy is unintentinally funny and Snapdragon has an interestign character arc that resonates with me and my own issues.
Same here though I liked Amaryllis & Snapdragon too tbh
Personally, I find Slime Boy one of the few characters who have an actual personality, and this is from watching a single clip of him.
Michael Jackson was pretty cool too
I mean... catching the Scarborough Fair reference is something I've only seen you do. See, you did have something new to add to the conversation!
I'm surprised no one else but me is catching the Bayonetta reference because her guns have the same names as our main characters.
Honestly, it's not even a bad way to name the characters... if only they named the show "High Guardian Herbs", or something.
However, the idea of naming characters after pre-existing material feels very RWBY, and that's probably what the show was TRYING to be.
@@reasyrandom Yeah, but it's just not as catchy as Spice.
The most distracting thing about this anime, to me, is the main character Rosemary's hair. Seriously, she looks like she glued two big pink cotton balls to the sides of her head. I think her hair is supposed to be stylized into twin tales, but we cannot see the hair bands, so instead, she looks like some kind of pink human/koala hybrid. She looks a lot better with her hair down.
I was gonna take a shot every time a character talks about their feelings, but I realized I'd die of alcohol poisoning halfway through the first episode.
if i am going to be honest, i think snapdragon is probably the character with the most progress. so much that he can just replace all 4 main characters. yes he has flaws but you gotta admit he is at least more likeable than the 4 main characters and he has a surprisingly ok backstory
He has more to work with than the core cast.
I can see that he will potentially be a great character that might save the show a bit while the rest are very OoC like how Rosemary suddenly act all sassy or when Sage got jealous and clingy to the point she felt that Rose belongs to her and sounds very objectifying about it as if Rose can't like anyone else outside of her. And it got worse to the point she accusing Snap can never understand girls problem since he is a boy and yeah I think you can predict what Snap did next. Like I know who Rose crushing for is a douche but at least Sage can't be a douche about it either?
The only issues I have with snap is that his plot is rather rushed, not only that but his backstory doesn’t completely match up to what he’s going through
Why is being transgender even a thing in a world where you can turn into a fucking mermaid with a ring? I feel like the very concept of being trans wouldn't hold as much weight when changing your gender is as easy as casting a spell and taking a single potion once a month.
Also, the concept of big, tough, toxic masculinity kind of loses all meaning when you have crazy magic and an academy where children are taught to fight monsters or whatever.
Basically, hot take, Snapdragon's character arc doesn't make much sense in the world the show has created. Nor is he that compelling of a character. Just marginally more interesting than the rest of the god awful cast.
This take really irks me because it implys all trans identifying people jsut want to magically snap their fingers and be the other gender all the time. That might be true for some or even many but there's a huge portion of people who take transitioning in slow steps and the process is important. Coming to terms with yourself again and again during each step is part of the journey.
Being raised as one gender while feeling like another is not always a snap easy thing to change, even if you're 100% sure you belong as the other gender switching before you're ready can come with it's own complications and people who choose to take it slowly are also valid. People who are on the fence are valid.
This take implys that anyone who would think of hesitating or choosing to do it piece by piece isn't valid.
@@foxinasweater2300 thats because you're applying it to our world's logic. If you knew the process was 100% reversible and you could literally just snap your fingers and be the other gender without consequences you bet 90% of people would do it
No need to be "sure" about something that pretty much doesnt matter since if you dont like it you can just go back in 30 mins
Hell, even the “take a potion once a month” thing feels kind of…off, doesn’t it? Like, why does Professor Carawaye have to basically take magical hormone treatment when his students can literally change species instantaneously with just the touch of a ring?
It almost feels unfair to him, if we’re being honest.
@@foxinasweater2300people who want to be obviously trans (instead of just being assumed as a normal man or woman) are generally narcisssists who get validation from making other people uncomfortable. There are lots of normal narcissists too that have other ways of getting the world to revolve around them (munchasens syndrome for example) but if you dont want to pass thats even more mentally ill than dysphoria
@@foxinasweater2300Umm, no, that's not what they said at all. They never said anything about validity or the time it takes. They only ever mention the ease of it. Don't make strawmen out of their arguments, and don't put words in their mouth.
My boyfriend and I refuse to watch the series because we know all about the animation and a/v issues. We both majored in art as well as radio/television and issues like this would drive us absolutely insane. It tried too hard to win brownie points on Tumblr, it completely ignored the important part of making an actually good show. Don't even get me started on the story.
14:41 It's like watching Tommy Wiseau's acting. No matter what intended performance, it's gonna sound funny
He sound more natural then the rest of the cast. Everybody sound like they've been apointed as "good guy" and "bad guy". Also, he looks more unique since every one looks too colorful and varide, and we know from one popular quote:"if everybody is superhero, then nobody is superhero".
He sounds like he woke up from a deep coma and is still trying to figure out how to make his voice come out.
He legit sounds like he smoked a ton of weed before recording
This show makes me feel better about my writing.
I bet my story of a catgirl, a human boy with magic, and a dragonborn would make for a far better show then whatever the hell High Guardian Spice is.
Make one mate ill read it
Its been 10 days are you done...
Yeah you make that story!✨
You know, I'm actually interested
Go for it I know it’s late but still go for it pretty sure it is better than high guardian spice
Another cat girl yawn....
An issue I've seen floating around is that, aside from no one actually explaining what a "guardian" is, no one seems to know what they're there for. The world seems nice and safe, so why do kids need to train into the art of fighting? This world should be more run down.
So now I imagined a magic school with all the normal problems schools have. Toilets that don't work, bad food in the cafeteria, irresponsible teachers who don't give a fuck, cold, the classics. With a magic twist of course, like a squid monster writhing in the toilets and blinking eyes in the cafeteria food.
It could have also worked as a contrast between Rose and Sage's romanticized pov on the big city and the academy vs a grittier, less pleasant reality.
The only threat are the mutated bug things and that 1 demon that already died I think
And the cat girl and most the men
Another issue is that none of the show staff seem to know what spices actually are as all the main characters are named after herbs, not spices.
@@redstarwarrior85 yeah, like, at least throw in some cinnamon or cumin. Chipotle, Allspice (although that sounds like a Mary Sue Self-Insert for a Spice Girls fanfic), Paprika.... there's at least seasonings you could throw in too, if you ran out of spices, that basically do the same thing when cooking.
Frankly if I make a world with people who protect it and there’s a school imma at least explain what they do
For the old magic vs new magic, from what I understood. It was like the difference between sucking water out of a well with a glass straw and a mechanical pump. The glass straw is more difficult and will take longer but the water is fine from beginning to end. With the pump it's faster and easier but Gunk starts getting in the water. Even after returning to the well as rain the polluted water will still hold some gunk, and that would build until the water is no longer drinkable. Old magic is the way the magic of the world wants to be used new magic is the way of magic that people want to use it.
Quick disclosure, this is nowhere explained. This explanation was made up by me. I liked the idea proposed and felt like trying to wire an answer.
A shame that more people with good writing skills like you werent on the writing team.
Here is a thought: Is it possible to do the "Ghost Stories" treatment to this series?
For those not in the know, "Ghost Stories" was the official AD Visions dub of a rather poorly received Japanese TV series. Essentially, the Japanese were so desperate to break even on the series they not only sold the rights cheaply, they allowed the studio to be as creative as they wanted with the script. The result was one of the funniest, most passionately spoofed dubs in history.
Soo, what are the odds Crunchyroll can sell this series to be redubbed with the same irreverent spirit?
Now THAT I would watch!
I’d pay to see that!
…. This idea will likely never happen, because of the narcissism and blatant hypocrisy of the Spice Hurls, but there has rarely ever been anything I wanted more than this premise you have lain on the table. I salute thee, Comrade Leslie. I salute thee indeed.
It's not much but Spilling The Milk already gave this the Ghost Stories treatment
@@Blizzard0fOz93yeah just wait till it gets a abridged most shows do even hated ones like sao and that’s shows only flaw is pacing some of the weird stuff that happened in the show but animation wise it’s pretty good plus the amount of stories you can tell without the og author is great so it’s possible to make it better even then i doubt high guardian spice would get a abridged
2:47 High Guardian Spice would have been more acceptable if it where on Netflix or Amazon Prime, but this a streaming service for Japanese animators to get paid for there work
It would be trash there, but it would be just a splat against the wall.
Here it is their prime new product and...ouch.
@@MasticinaAkicta They do have Pacific Rim: The Black and a return of Stanger Things. Netflix would just accept anything
Or HBO MAX, this looks more like Max Original than a Crunchyroll Original
And this is why I chose to watch Dai no Daibouken, Build Divide: Code Black, and Digimon Ghost Game over this... thing. While I have nothing against diversity, I had a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach about High Guardian Spice.
In my case I prefered Onyx Equinox, another Crunchyroll animated series based on Mesoamerican cultures with interesting characters and story.
The wokeness in this show is as subtle as truck-kun
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 Have there been any updates on that show?
@@moutray77 Not that I know...
Wait a minute. New magic can cause people to transition from one gender to another seamlessly. This show ties this to anti-environmentalism and evil, headed by a villainous cast composed mostly of men.
I wonder where that's going?
That moment when you try so hard to promote transgender as a normal thing, you loop right back around to being accidentally transphobic.
Honestly though, I think it's just a poor attempt at cramming two messages into one story that doesn't have room for it, and didn't think through the Worldbuilding. So they came up with one mcguffin, new magic, and used that to explain both the deteriorating environment, and the ability to change physical appearances, without considering the implications of that...
Lazy writing more than anything else.
Still a funny thought though!
Nowhere.
A total conflict of intentions, that's what. On one hand, the show treats New Magic as the trendy thing that everyone should do (while looking down on Old Magic, specifically calling it "conservative"). On the other, though, it portrays New Magic as entropic and dangerous.
If you were to put those two together, it'd be more comparable to, say, drugs or live weapons.
If you need a better show with diversity, let me remind you of The Owl House. It's a magical show with a confirmed Bisexual lead which, surprisingly, Disney didn't market as much. They even have a Non-binary character, which it didn't make a big deal. It's already good with proof that it can do great, whether in diversity or in a fantasy world. Sadly with how Disney is treating it, it's being cut more, which is why I'm talking about the show more than if it's just allowed to run as normal.
Either way, Dana Terrace should show these creators, and many others, how to do a diverse show right cause she really knocked it out of the park with this one.
Exactly
Why watch this
When you can watch show that do this better than this show.
Yep, thats how you do diversity. Characters with traits, not cutouts with checkboxes taped to them. This sort of 'diversity' is no different from the token fat/black/woman character trope because thats EXACTLY WHAT IT IS!
Yeah, and unlike High Guardian Spice, it doesn't feel the need to shame men or masculine people in the process. One of the main characters has same-sex male parents that aren't even written in a stereotypical manner.
Also, I've been watching the Ghost and Molly Mcgee, where the main character is half-Thai and she has a Jewish friend. It comes up occasionally, but it's done respectfully, and they have other personality traits besides those. So its a decent show worth watching.
I don't really like the ghost though.
the owl house is what this show wanted to be
Your song was more catchy than the whole series put together. I actually started to nod my head to it and sing the words.
I kind of hope it gets adapted into something 3-4 minutes long and put up on Spotify. There's a great structure to work with.
There is another issue with Snap Dragon's story arc. Their reason for wanting to be a girl seems to be portrayed as a false premise that one cannot be soft, gentle, or like cute things, and also be a man. Does this character want to be a girl because they truly feel like a girl, or because they were railroaded into thinking that being a man is an obstacle to being able to express themselves? The later is shockingly common in the real world, a lot of people seem to try to be so progressive that they end up reinforcing traditional gender stereotypes by insisting that if you don't conform to those stereotypes, you must certainly not be the gender you think you are. I've been accused of being an "egg" (a trans person who doesn't know it yet) a few times now. And it's like... Just let me live my life, I don't need you to come in here and tell me what identity I should have based on your opinion of my interests or behaviors.
Thank you
It also makes me wonder if the writers are even aware of the tropes common within their own industry, I.e the "tough guy with a soft side and likes cute things". It's practically one of the more popular tropes in anime, manga and otome games.
@@BrightWulph snapdragon being trans is kind of a big deflection of that trope though, as...it's not about a man anymore
@@Mqstodon But it then reenforces the bulling aspect of 'men can't like girly things' because snapdragon isn't a man, so they need to start presenting as a girl?
Its, messy to say the least and bloody idiotic to say more
@StarFish! Exactly, it's sends a pretty clumsy, if not dangerous message to impressionable people. It also reinforces the stroytype it's trying to break, in that only girls can like traditionally effeminate things.
I still have zero idea what the story is, what anyone’s motivations are, or what the purpose of guardians is.
RWBY, even at its worse, still gave us all of that!
Can I just say… my biggest pet peeve with nature vs science stuff is that ultimately it just boils down to a bunch of people going “SICENGE BAD NATORE GUD” very rarely do they actually have any complex discussions on the subject.
Like legit, the original lorex is so interesting to me precisely because it actually acknowledges that this type of thing isn’t just black and white, the once-ler is undoubtedly the “bad guy” but he isn’t completely wrong, nor is the Lorax completely right. And that’s why this CHILDRENS story is so compelling even NOW.
Man, i wish they actually showed the debate through healing magic
Like can you imagine them trying to do old magic, long rituals and herbology to try and heal a wound only for the patient to die? (make it someone they know to really hit those feels)
While if they just put their pride aside and used the 'new magic' they could have been saved? Like there is a time and place for the old vs new discussion, and it could have been really interesting to see the pros and cons of both sides
Mother 3 is a story that shows that a healthy balance between science and nature can be achieved
7:08 Dude, the "I DONT GIVE A F---" song was amazing. This series may be lambasted to hell and back, but another take with that short song is another nail on this coffin.
Subbed, liked, and slapped that bell. Amazing content and take!
Robin singing is priceless 😂 and accurate
Can i get that as a ringtone ?
They never explained what exactly a guardian is besides just the stereotypical hero type
The simple answer as to why Mandrake was so dumb, is that it is clear the writers forgot to reflect on how scenes would portray the characters (though some would argue there is also a bias against masculine male characters). The lack of reflection on how characters are portrayed shows when Rosemary nearly cuts Thyme's head off in episode 1, shows no remorse and then gets in an argument with her for the sake of being portrayed as "quirky". Ruby from S1 of RWBY is quirky and she would never be that dumb.
It shows when Sage''s backstory revolves around her hesitance to use New Magic out of tradition because her mother distrusts it, and yet she sends her daughter to a school renowned for teaching it.
If Professor Callaway and Mandrake had been established as longtime enemies, the scene could have made sense.
Listening to the dialogue in this show actually made me glad an ad started playing in the middle of this review.
Same here
An ad started playing for military rations seconds after she said the dialogue was terrible and I totally understand what you mean when you say the ads are better than hearing the characters speak.
As someone with an active distaste for SAO I'd actually say I'd defend SAO over this.
At least SAO has some reediming stuff, like music.
@@nidohime6233 exactly, the music and the porn.... unless we're talking about hollow realization where even the music kinda sucked.
The music, sakuga, and consistent character design were thanks to A1 Pictures. The subpar writing is due to it being one of the kawaharas first books which is still better written than this show.
@@elfireii328 Also, SAO was originally written as an entry for a short story competiton, which then got extended, a move that rarely works out well.
@@talltroll7092 God bless Miura for somehow making Berserk, a short story, into a masterpiece
I’ve written short films and short stories in the past, with some of my early work not being that good. However, High Guardian Spice made me realize that if this can get funded and released by a major streaming service, anything can happen.
Wow this anime from Crunchyroll broke Robin from anime America made her freak out yelling so much too. Wow totally spies and Martin mystery had better characters, stories also villains with better animation then high spice guardians too. Fantastic job on the video
She channel her inner Spectrum Pulse
Yep really broke her
Personally I haven't bothered to watch it. The initial trailer did not sell me on it, for the obvious reason, nor did the creators with their "diverse" almost-lady-exclusive writing room or controversy regarding the Kill All Men tweets. Perhaps I could have separated art from artist if I heard through the grapevine that it was actually good despite all that, but I think we know how things fell into place. I heard reviews much like yours and I was like "Nah, I'm good. No actually, I'm insulted that this shit is supposed to represent me and make me feel validated." Steven Universe this is not - and even then, Steven Universe knew to air on Cartoon Network and never took funds meant to go to completely different creative teams.
Just... no. No thanks. Not happening.
Surprisingly, since I have a free Crunchyroll account, I was even able to leave a review on the issues I have with the series even with the website itself knowing (or should know) that I haven't even sat through the episodes by themselves yet. Which I suppose is dishonest of me, but at the same time... what could that show possibly have that would change my mind about it?
That reminds me of Black Christmas 2019 with them being very sexist twords the men in the movie.🐻
Even snapdragon's arc is flawed. They try so hard to shoehorn in the trans-teens narrative that it doesn't make sense the slightest bit in this world. It makes me think that he's doesn't really want to be female, but rather a merman due to his obsession with mermaids. Him dressing as one on Halloween and just envious when the main characters turned into mermaids for that one episode.
And for a magical realm where anything is possible, why are the creators still obsessed with gender? I think the mermaid stuff alone is enough representation for the trans narrative instead of just shoehorning trans stuff in. There has to be something physically incompatible with snap becoming a mermaid. Like mermaids are of the water element and snap's element is fire so it's a 100% incompatible to become one, and I believe this would be so much more natural. And like why is him dressing as a mermaid even frowned upon when freaking mermen exists in their world?
And there is really no reason for Caraway to be trans in this show to be honest. They could have Caraway, who is biologically male not understand snapdragon's obsession with mermaids and have the desire to be one, but tell him that transitional magic could do this for transformation for him. Then this sets up snapdragon's story
TLDR: Everyone and every god hates “it” and the creators… goodnight everyone!
Also I’m getting the same issues with He-Man Revelations and Kevin smith’s issues, this is basically some form of failed self-therapy. A horrible one at that. To the Creator and Kevin Smith: GO TO BLOODY THERAPY!!!
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@@jtlovescodelyoko screw her, that “thing” should’ve been sent to the gulags.
@@jtlovescodelyoko no one gives a crap about Marzgirl anymore
@@titang6173 Trust me, her and supporters of #ISWV & #KV I have enough of and are testing my nevers and for some reason she's been defending this show.
I'd never seen He-Man before watching Revelations because "why not, maybe it's not that bad" and EVEN as a non-fan, I could tell why people would hate it for legitimate reasons.
Seriously the set-up could have worked... if it didn't feel like it came from a place of hatred for the original show
After stealing our money, and never paying attention on making a better focused cartoon, Crunchyroll deserves no support from us Japanese cartoon fans. Not even Pretty Cure is fooling us to subscribe to Crunchyroll. Tubi has Pretty Cure, and deserves to have other seasons. Pretty Cure still deserves to be available on DVD with translated subtitles.
Design wise, it has more rounds than edges that they tend to make the characters look fat. That is why it is important to balance the curves and sharps to know which are the muscles, fat, chin, chest, arms, and legs for example. Japan can do simplistic character designs too, while still looking nice and distinguishable. A few that I can think of are Tetsuwan Atom, Sazae san, Doraemon, Kiteretsu, Esper Mami, Lucky Star, Yuyushiki, and Chibi Maruko chan.
Best to support anime by paying the animators and creators since Japan overworks and underpays people. We also want anime to be accurately translated for us to properly know if the series is good, properly decide if we like it, and respect the creators' intended works-even if the country is different from ours, and if the characters are not actually speaking the translated language in the foreign country language canon.
I watch this with my Free Ad Based Subscription and that was good for me to do so because the advertisements help relieve me from the Boring fest this show is.
People keep saying it stole money, what happened exactly?
Crunchyroll didn’t steal our money.
Been doing that for years before the streaming was cool
Get with the program people stop subscribing to shit
It really feels like the creators saw Magical Girls Precure, took some points from it, and then slapped some diversity. Like, if you want the story, I do advice on you watching Magical Girl Precure- it’s more entertaining than this despise the obvious push for selling toys.
The hell of it is, choosing to focus on Rose shot them in the foot to begin with. She and Parsley dont bring anything new to the table to make the audience care about them enough to overcome the general shoddiness of the rest of the show. Had the core group been comprised of Sage (with her conflict of modernity v tradition), Thyme (with her potential for plot connections) Snapdragon (with his personal conflict) and Amaryllis (acting as glue) the core characters could have PERHAPS made up for everything else. As it stands... its just a more shoddy RWBY, which is really saying something.
High Guardian Spice is what you get when a company tries to make an animated show, but they think that QC stands for "Quota Check" instead of "Quality Control".
Robyn: *talks about how Snapdragon deserve better in the show*
Me: You're right, I mean heck just give him it's own show!!
The whole Snapdragon thing fails IMO simply because they wrote his story just to force the concept of transgenderism onto the audience. He's a guy who wants to both be strong like a man, but be beautiful and elegant like a woman. He also likes cute things. This doesn't really directly equate to the sole solution of him turning into a girl and then all problems get solved. If you're somewhat versed in Japanese anime, you can see a LOT of male characters exactly like what Snapdragon wants to become in those Shoujo or Reverse Harem anime already out there. The ones where you get a number of male characters for each "tastes" who can put even female characters to shame because the studio just decided the budget has to almost entirely be poured to make them gorgeous af and also way more often than not strong and talented story wise.
That shit made me downright uncomfortable. First Caroway abuses his power as a teacher to force Snap into confiding his personal issues to him. And then after hearing that snap is interested in girly things he immediately starts straight up grooming him into thinking he must be trans.
My $0.03 (AUS)
When dealing with story theme, there are two basic ways open to a creator:
The Good Way: Create a story where these themes either arise naturally or a "pre-existing" part of the world-building landscape. Bonus points if the story shows that not everything works out all the time -- even with the best of intentions.
The Bad Way: Take a theme and force it into a story without considering beforehand how well it will fit. Both the theme and the story will be damaged heavily by the time the rough edges are filed off. Knock points off if the creators don't bother with filing off the rough edges.
I couldn't get through the first episode, so I'll leave it to others as to which way the creators of HGS took.
(I just hate the fact that it is in the "Crunchyroll Originals" lineup as TONIKAWA...)
7:10
LET me tell you how I got my sword! It's my mom she's my dad and-
IDGAF
Let me show you all my blacksmith skills and my parents they're insane cause-
IDGAF
And my mom says old magic only and my cousins are lesbians and-
IDGAF
And my feelings here and my feelings there and-
IDGAF!!!!
I felt like they where ripping off the "this weapon is your life" with the attachment to the sword
10/10 song
CLAMP is a great example of how you can be a forward thinking group and produce excellent materials. Here is hoping that this group tries harder to craft well meaning stories in the future.
Indeed like cardcaptor sakura, chobits, clamp school detectives etc
And the funniest thing about this show is at the end *they actually taught they will have a season2?* 🤣
Ever watch Christian entertainment? Or Objectivist movies? Or softcore genre fiction? It's all mostly just as horrible, for many of the same reasons.
And somehow, it keeps getting made, simply because enough people will hate it for the politics alone, that the negativity will serve as free advertising.
And it'll serve both an audience with low expectations and a meta audience that enjoys hating the material.
Bonus (from the corporate perspective): people who aren't talented enough to reliably deliver something really good are easier to tie down for long term contracts. If they wanted to really celebrate diversity, there are plenty writers and artists (of all races, gender expressions, faiths, etc) who could use the visibility, but they might also do something like criticize the corporate hand that feeds them.
Anyways, it looks like Crunchy Roll is just applying US Gold's approach to business - earn a reputation for delivering the best of overseas entertainment by aggressively pursuing licenses, then license unqualified teams to produce original trash on the cheap, which you own all the rights to. (Other studios have done this, but I know more about games than movies and television/streaming.)
If they don't get another season, it'll probably have more to do with their delays in delivering the product, rather than the product's quality. Shareholders are generally addicted to quick dopamine rushes.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 except you didn't factor in the fact that the HGS production team were already *DISBANDED.*
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 you also didn't factor in the fact that what you mentioned have a clear target audience that consume the product. I don't know what "objecttivist" is, but Christian movies got sold to churches, and soft core genre has occult following. HGS was advertised on an anime Streaming Site, streamed on an anime Streaming Site, where people wants Anime, not a Mediocre Cartoon Network Show, it caters to basically no one.
We live in a world where The Tick got cancelled while Batwoman is on its third season, so it's not like stupider things haven't happened.
6:59 but "bitchy bully" is one of the best characters that a few would praise as the fan favorite
I'm sure I was not the only one that found that weird speech of "oh~women are so pretty and strong" very creepy. like, ok, stop treating women like trophies (that you have to transform into) and start treating them like normal human beings
If the show were Snapdragon, Amarelys, the cat, parsly and slime boy it would be a bit more enjoyable.
The interactions between snapdragon and amarelys were the highlight for me... still the writhing keep them from been great.
Ya need a cleansing palette? Komi can’t communicate is pure adorable.
Funny you should say that because immediately after showing my roommate Robyn's review and going into a discussion about some misgivings that I (as a bi woman, with a history in crossdressing and questioning gender identity) have been been regarding both representation in anime and how the more radical side of the LGBT+ aisle makes me more uncomfortable and disappointed than anything else. After which, I referred her to the Komi Can't Communicate trailer. Palette cleanser.
@@HexManiacQuinn hooray!😁
@@HexManiacQuinn We can all agree Komi is anime for the soul (and if you have communication issues, HIGHLY relatable)
@@HexManiacQuinn gotta love a cast of enjoyably weird people including a wannabe ninja, a class president with huge tracts of land, I'm pretty sure the best nonbinary character I've ever seen in anime (seriously, you ask them if they boy or girl, and they'll just respond with "yes"), and at the center of it all, an average Joe befriending a girl whose the most beautiful introvert I've seen in pretty much anything
@@erichfiedler1481 it is hilarious and moving ☺️
Rosemary & Sage is basically the opposition of what Xena & Gabrielle were in Xena: Warrior Princess. They both started off as solo teammates with not being all much buddy buddy. But as letter episodes goes, they have share towards the feelings. Xena was trying to make up her mistakes from her past, while Gabrielle was just helping her and becoming as an fine warrior. The relationship with Xena & Gabrielle was experimental at the start to finish. Fighting for stopping bad guys, put an end to the war, solving national crisis, dealing with there mistakes and figured out the solution. Yeah. They have there own problems to each others from time to time. But they solved the problem out & makes up there mistakes. It makes both of them not just best friends, but really closer friends & even loved each other indeed. It what makes them an good chemistry. But this? This is anything but good chemistry.
Aside from Snapdragon, the axe murderer girl Amaryllis is also a favorite to some people.
But yeah, who thought this scene (16:42) was a good idea? We already have the scene of Snapdragon and Caraway before, but this one is more patronizing to the community that i'm feeling sorry for them being used like that. I'm convinced that the writers have no idea what they were doing, and considering that one of them hates men, i'm not suprised in the slightest. This show is probably never going to get a second season and ended in on a cliffhanger. We're living in a world where Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go and Alf never got a chance to get another season, yet High Guardian Spice was promoted so heavily that it damaged people's perception on Crunchyroll even more.
Hey, anyone read the old Teen Titans by Wolfman and Perez? They had an entire issue of just Raven and Starfire talking about their feelings. Was really good because, unlike this cartoon and a ton of other modern cartoons, they made people care about the characters first and earned, essentially, a soul searching story.
Reject being these people's unpaid therapists. Embrace good character development.
Also, on that snapdragon thing... Like, this was the point of a gentleman. Chivalry and courtly manners lead into the later gentleman. It was all about being gentle when you can gentle and being a *MAN* when you need to be a *MAN* . Even JoJo at least kinda got that idea in season 1.
The lesbian cousins thing was something that we've been making fun of the DiC dub for doing to Sailor Moon. Leave it to High Guardian Spice to unironically use that idea again in their "anime" cuz.... diversity or something.
I commend you for taking the Spice Bullet for us! For that, I thank you!
i have seen all the episodes. I thought it was a meh series. I didn't thought it was bad but I also didn't thought it was good. There were a few things I did like.
But also people claiming for a possible season 2 makes me laugh since there won't be one. For one thing all the people who worked on it finished the series two years ago and all since then moved on to other projects. High Guardian Spice wasn't released for so long because Crunchyroll know the reception that they were going to receive was going to be the same as what they gotten today. And Crunchyroll being bought by Sony is why Crunchyroll released it since when Sony consolidate Crunchyroll into Funimation, they knew there would be a high chance that Sony wouldn't let the series be released unless they redid the entire series from scratch.
I... wouldn't COMPLETELY rule out a season two. I've seen enough videos by Yellow Flash going over the CONSTANTLY FALLING ratings for the Batgirl or Batwoman show, and it keeps getting new seasons confirmed partway through.
@@jameshewitt4706 I like Yellow Flash, but the dude needs to stop drawing attention to crappy shows like that.
@@jameshewitt4706 Batwoman gets renewed because of politics at the CW. It clearly isn't getting renewed based on its' ratings or critical reception
I'm currently watching it, I'm on episode 8, I'm watching to make a different but better story, and the characters will have different names, and more fleshed out stories. I'm not sure that I'm going to keep the big bads because I think the decaying of the environment is enough of a big bad.
Can we get a update because now I’m curious how someone else would handle it
@@levievil9220 Well I finished watching the series, started a different story that has my attention at the moment but is still related. Basically these characters in a Danganronpa setting, plus three completely new characters just for this story. As for the one that I was thinking about writing at the time of this comment, I started it. Their first names are all color related Cora(for coral pink) is Rosemary, Maya=Sage, Ron(for Veronica purple) is kind of their Parsley. Iridia(for iridium) is Amaryllis and Thyme in one person. Grey=Mandrake. And although I still want it so that the overarching villains are not there, there's just like a small spaced out group of villains that will challenge the characters and help them grow as fighters and people. With only a few exceptions though, all characters are named after colors. You can find a link to where I'm writing all of this on my TH-cam page
17:35 It was covered in a span of a few minutes in one episode, wrapped up and done.
With Saki concluding the whole thing by stating that she doesn't care what kind of junk she's got.
Priceless.
Don't forget they used stock photos for some of the animation like the street lamps.
Others have already mentioned that, she was trying to find something new to say.
Not that that isn't worth bringing up, it is laziness and cheapness to a degree that shouldn't even be possible on a production like this... but, again, Robyn wanted to find different things to discuss.
I completely respect your resolve Robin!!! You made it through the whole show, while I can barely make it through this review.
I lost a bet and had to watch HGS. Your 20 second song perfectly encompassed what I thought about the story and characters by the time the credits rolled on the 12th episode. It was also more entertaining than the entire series.
Your friends are.cruel
TL;DR. I touched on this in another video, but I feel like Snapdragon's story doesn't work specifically for this show, not because of the writing or the other characters or anything like that... but because of the setting.
High Guardian Spice takes place in a fantasy world of magic where virtually anything is possible. They even mentioned in the episode that gender-changing magic exists and he could utilize it if he chooses to. Why is this a problem? Because it's not relatable!
If you're writing an arc like this, about a character struggling with their sexuality and/or gender-identity, you want this character to be relatable to any audience members who might be going through a similar situation. Someone who's actually struggling with their gender-identity should be able to see themselves in Snapdragon. That way, when he eventually makes it through his struggles and discovers who he's supposed to be (regardless of whether or not he chooses to transition), the viewer can see themself getting through their own struggles as well. "Transition Magic" throws all of that out the window.
In fairness, I'm not transgender, so I can't say this with 100% certainty. But I feel like it would be difficult for real life transgender people to relate to Snapdragon seeing how he can just drink a potion or cast a spell and instantly have any kind of body he wants! YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN REAL LIFE!!! You can't just make your gender dysphoria disappear with a wave of your hand! I think it fails because they tried making a trans character with relatable struggles in a world where said struggles wouldn't feasibly exist. I can understand the existence of transgenders in My Hero Academia, I can understand their existence in RWBY, but I can't understand it here!
Also, it doesn't help that one of the main reasons Snapdragon is questioning his gender identity is because he was bullied and essentially brainwashed into thinking that men shouldn't have feelings. Doesn't that seem the least bit problematic to anyone else? "Remembers boys: If you're not completely emotionless and macho every second of your life, you're not a real man! Simple as that!" The creators think they’re fighting against toxic gender stereotypes, but all they’re really doing is enforcing new toxic gender stereotypes!
THIS SHOW IS AN INSULT!!!
Well, I mean, MEN BAD, EVIL MONSTERS! Or something. Dont forget, one of the writers of the show posted 'kill all men' on Twitter, do you really expect her to write men as anything but complete assholes at best?
Not to mention that they were examples of good feminine male in the past. My best example would ne Rei from Hokuto no Ken (even uses it to trick the thugs on his début episode). Even better : Shun of Andromeda from Saint Seiya. Dude is one of the best Cosmo user in the serie despite holding back.
If you forced me to watch either Sword Art Online or this, I would probably pick SAO. Main reason being that it has a lot of redeming qualities, like the music, background and characters looking great, and the story (for the first half).
Also because I have a small soft spot for it. It was the first "mature" anime I've seen
Honestly Sao has better reputation than high guardian spice seriously how does the worse known true anime have a better reputation than that show
What honestly bothered me was the weird dialogue they kept shoving in my face.
I was always thinking, "who would say this stuff?"
It felt so forced.
“Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme.”
“Nevermind the folk songs, dim head. It’s marijuana. I can smell it.”
I’m referring to an old American comedy classic called “The Dukes of Hazzard.” The marijuana, in this case, being this whole anime.
Here’s a clip of that “Dukes of Hazzard” scene: th-cam.com/video/LzKroAOdJkU/w-d-xo.html
I’d rather be watching that right now than this insult to anime!
@@victorhernandez8723 You are making the BEST decision of your entire life. The Dukes of Hazzard is a PURE GOLDEN example of times when America was actually GREAT!!! No cancel culture, nobody was woke, no Black Lives Matter, no ANTIFA, no political correctness, and nobody gave a crap about the Confederate flag on the roof of the orange main star car of the show named the General Lee, named after General Robert E. Lee. When that show came on TV, everybody just came together, ate popcorn, laughed, and had the time of their lives. It didn’t matter what age, race, gender, etc. they were. They just knew they were watching a TV show that they loved. Now THOSE were the days in America.
To be honest, a hashish brownie would be more tolerable than this.
Maybe Marijuana was Slime Boy. He even has green hair.
I'm at 5:48, and I have to say that the leaning in to the Scarborough Faire thing is one of the first things to make me smile about this show. That's kind-of delightful.