Frankly, I am shocked Austin has not played Outer Wilds. Music is such an integral part of expressing and deepening its themes and messages, to the point that it had me think about my connection with making and listening to music. I hope he gives it another shot!
Truth be told, I haven't seen PWL in a while and I was walking around the office recently and found myself thinking I miss PWL and so here I am and here you are and now I'm happy :)
5:00 this conversation makes me immediately think of Doki Doki Literature Club. How ballsy to make a game look like a dating sim, then twist it in such an immense way. I found out about it later when the twist was already spoiled for me, but imagine being one of the first people to play it. That would freak me out.
I recently finished Stray Gods for the first time. I thought, "wow those were great songs. I wonder what the other choices sound like" And it's literally brand new songs! It varies wildly depending on specific choices.
alanah and mike have been replaced by doppelgängers. I know this because they didn't make fun of Austin as soon as he left the zoom call. *update:* premature on my part, they redeemed themselves at the end, stand down folks.
One thing close to, or surpassing, GTA funding levels is Star Citizen. Speaking of which, the latest Squadron 42 "gameplay trailer" is like a mini-movie.
Thank Goodness You're Here is legit fuckin HILARIOUS! HIGHLY recommend playing it, it pretty short which is great for a game like that. like about 6-8 hours to do everything
I found Immortality incredibly unsettling. Even though I logically knew it was a game It had the feeling that you stumbled upon something you weren't suppose to watch but you keep digging deeper because of morbid curiosity.
Yeah, I feel a similar way about Undertale. I remember it coming out and I swear within a week or two, it seemed that it instantly had a hardcore fanbase out of nowhere of people who were obsessed with it, and would not shut up about it. I found that a little off putting. Never quite understood it. I mean hell, sometimes I feel sorry for Toby Fox, because he seems to be trapped like James Caan in "Misery", just held hostage at all times by his own die hard fans 😆
Oh man. I finally got around to playing Outer Wilds recently. Truly such a special experience. It's a perfect example of story that could only be told in the video game medium. The janky spaceship will grow on you, I promise! 😂
Unrelated to the episode, I finished God of War Ragnarok on PC a couple weeks ago. I found it to be one of the best AAA games I've ever played, particularly the writing. Your team did a great job and I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next!
I bounced off of both Outer Wilds and Undertale when I initially played them, but after finishing them they're on top of my games of all time lists and left deep impressions. Don't feel bad about bouncing off, just give them another go if and when you can. I actually started a Frostpunk 1 game two days ago (for the nth time) and I'm trying to force my way through it. I'm not good at/don't find myself enjoying city builders OR 4X games but by god I will finish at least one run.
We're evolutionarily "designed" to be empathy machines for those that we consider to be within "our tribe." The only issue today is how people draw those lines. This is why, when you look at people committing atrocities during war and such, the easiest way to turn off empathy for people is to "other" them and dehumanize them. In fact, that seems to be a necessary step in order to turn off empathy for anyone who doesn't have a neurological disorder that mutes empathy.
I have never heard of Thank Goodness You’re Here, but need to check that out. While I don’t miss 90% of twitter, I do feel so out of the loop when it comes to smaller games. And I injured my back and have been playing Kaycee’s Mod all week…so…yeah I get that.
The problem with horrifyingly long development times of modern AAA video games is that GTA6 _won't_ give us a study of which game mechanics are currently at the top of the pack - it will give us a study of which game mechanics were at the top of the pack in the second half of the 2010s. And most of the satire on the radio will probably be just as old.
As a AAA dev, I totally agree and can attest to a lack of focus and efficiency due to stress about job stability. I guess im basically borderline gen z tho so maybe Mike got me read 😂 Godspeed to all the people making games out there fr
if they can bleep out everytime marshawn lynch swears on the getgot podcast then we can set up a livestream of austins work meeting without breaking any NDAs. for frostpunk 2 i think the best analogy is the one with the first game being a survival city builder, the second one being more like a 4X. which means its not really for me, but its commendable that the devs actually went and evolved the formula instead of just making the same game with better visuals and sprinkles on top.
Thank Goodness You're Here is probably the funniest game I've ever seen. On par with Monkey Island, Jazzpunk or South Park and such. And I'm not even British, so I didn't get all the jokes as it has a TON of Northern English gags. Fantastic voice acting, fab music and their style of animation is so nice. The only gripe I have with it is that navigation inside the game is a bit hit and miss, but you do find a ton more funny shit when you get lost or just trying to figure out where to go next.
dude talking about the radio stations, I was playing it the other day and they started talking about a billionaire going to the bottom of the ocean in a submersible and drowning. Like wtf Rockstar???!!!
Why are all delayed games going to February? Why not be the best selling game in January or March vs just another game releasing in February? Would love to see Avowed release in January as to not get lost, it already moved to get away from Dragon Age Veilguard.
If you subscribe to this belief to begin with, RockStar is probably the only true AAAA developer, despite other publishers self proclaiming their game is 😂
Valve could probably rank in that number, they print money from stuff they don't even have to make and only put out top tier games. Maaaaybe CDPR falls under that, but likely not to the same extent. Epic has the money, but not the interest in new game development in the same way (although they enable tons of games via Unreal).
7:50 I haven't finished the podcast yet but to my knowledge (which is little) I believe Undertale grew out of the Earthbound/Mother community in which Toby Fox was a well known Fan Game creator. However, I'm pretty sure the EarthBound community is much older than Undertale's, especially at launch. Undertales toxic parts of the Fandom was a result of it being extremely popular with kids and teens, and many of those teens not understanding boundaries or how to healthily engage in a fandom
I think Erdtree will win some GOTY stuff but it really depends on whose voting when only 35% of players have defeated the boss needed to access the DLC.
I love how I've been in yet another random undertale phase for the past two weeks and they bring up the fact that they all haven't played it within the first 10 minutes. Guys, you must. It's life changing. It's what games are all about. You owe it to yourself to experience it with how passionate you are about your jobs AND it's relatively short!
I think Austin especially will have a unique appreciation for the OST. It's one of the most ridiculously impressive things I've ever heard and that's without taking into consideration that it was only made by one guy
Imma step out of videogames, but this is the tangent podcast anyway, so it's probably fine. I think fiction in general could be described as "empathy machines". I have recently read a book series called Malazan: Book of the Fallen. It's very high fantasy, there's SO MUCH batshit crazy stuff in it. There's literally dinosaurs with sword arms. And that doesn't take away ONE BIT from the emotional punch it packs and from how effective it is at making you think and reflect and consider different points of view on a given subject. Like, the author will present a certain theme in MANY facets, and it's just SO good at making you give a shit and potentially understand people in the real world better. Some of the themes the books touch on are compassion, grief, motherhood, brotherhood, loyalty, fanaticism and war, for example (and there are a bunch more). And every single one of these themes is thoroughly explored. Sometimes you might not even notice that you're seeing a different side of a theme you had already seen discussed in the book series, but then someone points it out or you notice it and it's just awesome. It really makes you realize how complex the world is, how different people are and all that, and I think this is valuable. But awnyay, my point is: fiction is one of the absolute greatest things we've ever done as a species imo, and I think it's one of the absolute best tools at making people give a shit. There's so much in current society that pushes people into being more individualistic and not concerning themselves with others. And I think stories are SUCH a powerful way of pushing back against that trend. Sure, maybe Malazan or This War of Mine won't make a given person instantly empathetic. But I think it's most likely at least a push in the right direction. It at least plants the seed of caring and of empathy, and I think this is incredible
WOW! I'm blown away by the fact that some devs apparently make games without proper documentation. Things you say are terrible form the organizational point of view. You must never rely on persons only. Everything must be documented. All versions, all scenarios.
That's how MMOs and games in general often get stuck in development. Someone leaves / is let go and then they realise "oh, they were the only person who knew how xyz works".
Yay my very real not parasocial friends are talking to me again
hahahahaha
Yeah, Austin just liked one of my tweets so we're buds for sure.
@@aarons.2323 Bro that means I am only two degrees removed from Austin now! XD
@@aarons.2323must be nice to have friends.
I want to be two degrees from Austin! Wait, that doesn’t sound as sane as I wanted it to…
Frankly, I am shocked Austin has not played Outer Wilds. Music is such an integral part of expressing and deepening its themes and messages, to the point that it had me think about my connection with making and listening to music. I hope he gives it another shot!
Truth be told, I haven't seen PWL in a while and I was walking around the office recently and found myself thinking I miss PWL and so here I am and here you are and now I'm happy :)
5:00 this conversation makes me immediately think of Doki Doki Literature Club. How ballsy to make a game look like a dating sim, then twist it in such an immense way. I found out about it later when the twist was already spoiled for me, but imagine being one of the first people to play it. That would freak me out.
I recently finished Stray Gods for the first time. I thought, "wow those were great songs. I wonder what the other choices sound like" And it's literally brand new songs! It varies wildly depending on specific choices.
alanah and mike have been replaced by doppelgängers. I know this because they didn't make fun of Austin as soon as he left the zoom call.
*update:* premature on my part, they redeemed themselves at the end, stand down folks.
😂
Man i love Bithell metaphors
It’d be wild if GTA 6 somehow incorporated the Sekiro parry mechanic 👀🙏🏻
If they do I'll actually buy it
One thing close to, or surpassing, GTA funding levels is Star Citizen. Speaking of which, the latest Squadron 42 "gameplay trailer" is like a mini-movie.
Such great conversations.
Mike’s correct he’s thinking of the Homestuck webcomic fandom. 8:30
Not me thinking they were talking about the Hitchcock movie Birds' score book :D
Thank Goodness You're Here is legit fuckin HILARIOUS! HIGHLY recommend playing it, it pretty short which is great for a game like that. like about 6-8 hours to do everything
I really need to check out Frostpunk, keep hearing great things.
I found Immortality incredibly unsettling. Even though I logically knew it was a game It had the feeling that you stumbled upon something you weren't suppose to watch but you keep digging deeper because of morbid curiosity.
Outer wilds has one of the most realistic space flights in games. It's pretty intuitive if you are a sci-fi or physics nerd tbh.)
Would any crazy number of upvotes or signatures or whatever get Austin to stream his next try of Undertale?
Yeah, I feel a similar way about Undertale. I remember it coming out and I swear within a week or two, it seemed that it instantly had a hardcore fanbase out of nowhere of people who were obsessed with it, and would not shut up about it. I found that a little off putting. Never quite understood it. I mean hell, sometimes I feel sorry for Toby Fox, because he seems to be trapped like James Caan in "Misery", just held hostage at all times by his own die hard fans 😆
Enjoying the 11 bit love - I was recently working for a charity that they supported. Great people making & publishing great games.
Soma killed me. It starts weird and just get better and better.
Oh man. I finally got around to playing Outer Wilds recently. Truly such a special experience. It's a perfect example of story that could only be told in the video game medium. The janky spaceship will grow on you, I promise! 😂
Unrelated to the episode, I finished God of War Ragnarok on PC a couple weeks ago. I found it to be one of the best AAA games I've ever played, particularly the writing. Your team did a great job and I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next!
I'll have to add Immortality to my wishlist. Never heard of it before, but it sounds interesting
This makes me happier than that one time I got Sub Zero’s fatality correct!
Congrats on 160 episodes! Just wanted to share that Mike's audio has been clipping for a few episodes.
I bounced off of both Outer Wilds and Undertale when I initially played them, but after finishing them they're on top of my games of all time lists and left deep impressions. Don't feel bad about bouncing off, just give them another go if and when you can.
I actually started a Frostpunk 1 game two days ago (for the nth time) and I'm trying to force my way through it. I'm not good at/don't find myself enjoying city builders OR 4X games but by god I will finish at least one run.
We're evolutionarily "designed" to be empathy machines for those that we consider to be within "our tribe." The only issue today is how people draw those lines.
This is why, when you look at people committing atrocities during war and such, the easiest way to turn off empathy for people is to "other" them and dehumanize them. In fact, that seems to be a necessary step in order to turn off empathy for anyone who doesn't have a neurological disorder that mutes empathy.
I have never heard of Thank Goodness You’re Here, but need to check that out.
While I don’t miss 90% of twitter, I do feel so out of the loop when it comes to smaller games.
And I injured my back and have been playing Kaycee’s Mod all week…so…yeah I get that.
The Castle is a *very* Australian move.
It's about Wick, about Marbo, it's The Vibe.
As a Mexican American I love the Dom side mission where he tells you why he’s not racist and has the trope of a Latin housekeeper.
The problem with horrifyingly long development times of modern AAA video games is that GTA6 _won't_ give us a study of which game mechanics are currently at the top of the pack - it will give us a study of which game mechanics were at the top of the pack in the second half of the 2010s. And most of the satire on the radio will probably be just as old.
44:00 If we're talking games released this year that hit people's top 3, (the 1.0 release of) Satisfactory might fit the bill.
hearing people describe how they spoiled immortality for themselves always hurts my heart a little bit. but i get it 😔✌️
As a AAA dev, I totally agree and can attest to a lack of focus and efficiency due to stress about job stability. I guess im basically borderline gen z tho so maybe Mike got me read 😂
Godspeed to all the people making games out there fr
Im with alanah, idk if I can play Balatro because of how much I adore Inscryption
Undertale grew out of Homestuck. It's one of the reason the fanbase is/was very rabid.
Time stamps would be really great for these podcast episodes so we active watchers can listen to the parts we are interested in.
if they can bleep out everytime marshawn lynch swears on the getgot podcast then we can set up a livestream of austins work meeting without breaking any NDAs.
for frostpunk 2 i think the best analogy is the one with the first game being a survival city builder, the second one being more like a 4X. which means its not really for me, but its commendable that the devs actually went and evolved the formula instead of just making the same game with better visuals and sprinkles on top.
My favorite game developers favorite game developer is your favorite game developers favorite game developer,developer.
Thank Goodness You're Here is probably the funniest game I've ever seen. On par with Monkey Island, Jazzpunk or South Park and such. And I'm not even British, so I didn't get all the jokes as it has a TON of Northern English gags. Fantastic voice acting, fab music and their style of animation is so nice. The only gripe I have with it is that navigation inside the game is a bit hit and miss, but you do find a ton more funny shit when you get lost or just trying to figure out where to go next.
dude talking about the radio stations, I was playing it the other day and they started talking about a billionaire going to the bottom of the ocean in a submersible and drowning. Like wtf Rockstar???!!!
Welcome!!
Why are all delayed games going to February? Why not be the best selling game in January or March vs just another game releasing in February? Would love to see Avowed release in January as to not get lost, it already moved to get away from Dragon Age Veilguard.
I didn't enjoy Papers, Please. It showed me that this is not what I seek in video games and experiences I need to feel.
Stalker 2 comes out next month, if it's anywhere near as good as the first game I imagine it will be a contender for game of the year!
Austin not wearing a red hoodie? Hope everything is ok mate
If you subscribe to this belief to begin with, RockStar is probably the only true AAAA developer, despite other publishers self proclaiming their game is 😂
Valve could probably rank in that number, they print money from stuff they don't even have to make and only put out top tier games. Maaaaybe CDPR falls under that, but likely not to the same extent. Epic has the money, but not the interest in new game development in the same way (although they enable tons of games via Unreal).
7:50 I haven't finished the podcast yet but to my knowledge (which is little) I believe Undertale grew out of the Earthbound/Mother community in which Toby Fox was a well known Fan Game creator. However, I'm pretty sure the EarthBound community is much older than Undertale's, especially at launch. Undertales toxic parts of the Fandom was a result of it being extremely popular with kids and teens, and many of those teens not understanding boundaries or how to healthily engage in a fandom
Is there some weird filter on Mike's mic? Sounds very AI-ish.
Still never played gta.
Only briefly tried red dead 1 and saints row 1 and didn't care muxh...but I'd love to give ted dead 2 a chance
... mostly
Dragon Age going to steal GOTY again like 2014 and people will be trying to dismiss it for years the same.
OUTER WILDS is the GOAT!!
How's the serenity
*Breathes deeply* Ah, 2 Stroke.
85 not huge? c'monnnn
#OscarWater
I think Erdtree will win some GOTY stuff but it really depends on whose voting when only 35% of players have defeated the boss needed to access the DLC.
I love how I've been in yet another random undertale phase for the past two weeks and they bring up the fact that they all haven't played it within the first 10 minutes.
Guys, you must. It's life changing. It's what games are all about. You owe it to yourself to experience it with how passionate you are about your jobs AND it's relatively short!
I think Austin especially will have a unique appreciation for the OST. It's one of the most ridiculously impressive things I've ever heard and that's without taking into consideration that it was only made by one guy
Imma step out of videogames, but this is the tangent podcast anyway, so it's probably fine.
I think fiction in general could be described as "empathy machines". I have recently read a book series called Malazan: Book of the Fallen. It's very high fantasy, there's SO MUCH batshit crazy stuff in it. There's literally dinosaurs with sword arms. And that doesn't take away ONE BIT from the emotional punch it packs and from how effective it is at making you think and reflect and consider different points of view on a given subject. Like, the author will present a certain theme in MANY facets, and it's just SO good at making you give a shit and potentially understand people in the real world better. Some of the themes the books touch on are compassion, grief, motherhood, brotherhood, loyalty, fanaticism and war, for example (and there are a bunch more). And every single one of these themes is thoroughly explored. Sometimes you might not even notice that you're seeing a different side of a theme you had already seen discussed in the book series, but then someone points it out or you notice it and it's just awesome. It really makes you realize how complex the world is, how different people are and all that, and I think this is valuable.
But awnyay, my point is: fiction is one of the absolute greatest things we've ever done as a species imo, and I think it's one of the absolute best tools at making people give a shit. There's so much in current society that pushes people into being more individualistic and not concerning themselves with others. And I think stories are SUCH a powerful way of pushing back against that trend. Sure, maybe Malazan or This War of Mine won't make a given person instantly empathetic. But I think it's most likely at least a push in the right direction. It at least plants the seed of caring and of empathy, and I think this is incredible
Metaphor is my game of the year, but it can never win formal GOTY because most judges won’t bother to play it.
Yuuurp
WOW!
I'm blown away by the fact that some devs apparently make games without proper documentation.
Things you say are terrible form the organizational point of view. You must never rely on persons only. Everything must be documented. All versions, all scenarios.
That's how MMOs and games in general often get stuck in development. Someone leaves / is let go and then they realise "oh, they were the only person who knew how xyz works".
Love not seeing Troy
jeezz why so obsessed.
@ he’s the man in the arena
@@WackoWambo english pls.