Jason, Jeff The Killer and Slenderman have were pretty popular killers in the early era of roblox. So it seems reasonable to add them in due to their popularity way back when. Though, Jeff and Slenderman are still not present, it's cool we got to see Jason, who is iconic in his own right and quite more popular.
Forsaken's killer cast is composed of roblox myths and unoriginal things that made their way into roblox, these being as you mentioned jason, jeff, slenderman and other ones like sonic.exe. Their plan according to one of the devs is to add killers to the game that show the progression of horror on roblox, from the classic era to ig today, which is also why they allegedly wanted to add blue from rainbow friends and figure from doors.
watching this is kinda painful cause what it seems like to me is you think the balancing is awful because the skill ceiling is a lot higher than your typical roblox game. Killers ARE fun, and they ARE terrifying, in the right hands. While I admit the balancing isn't perfect, it sure as hell isn't a nightmare. Yeah I agree that some survivor stuff could probably use some nerfs like stuns (and the whole idea of canceling abilities with stuns is stupid) but what makes this game fun is READING people. Survivors like Shedletsky & Guest 1337 can stun you but they have to LAND the hit, and missing puts them in a terrible position where they could die instantly if the killer knows what they are doing. Killers only have 10 more stamina so that the killer has to utilize their abilities & map pressure to zone survivors in a position where they can get hits. Honestly there's a lot to be said, and im sure if you give the game more time you'll take back a lot of the takes you had, but calling the game a balancing nightmare isn't a pill hard to swallow, its just plain out wrong.
In Forsaken, 007n7 is actually C00LKIDD’s father lore wise. Also C00LKIDD is only 10 years old according to the game, he thinks murdering everyone is just a game since he’s a child. Also Guest 666 will be added to the game in the future which add some lore relating to Guest 1337.
A note for TWOTIME and CHANCE: Twotime is a developer’s OC. Chance is meant to represent inside trading within the Roblox community (and is somehow connected with work at a Casino) Jason is meant to be from the Area 51 game.
@vanillashine2689 1x1x1x1 isn't that bad especially on maps with elevation, all you really need to do to counter him is to be smart with your your movement and stamina.
This video actually hurt to watch. Look, theres a lot to the game you've thrown under the bus without giving it a good chance and you should really try to play the game more. Jason's Raging Pace Ability (The one you talked about) was nerfed in a recent update and is getting rebuffed to make it stronger You can't stun chain killers as they have a 3 second stun immunity period. You can easily bait stuns against survivors and punish whiffs. W+M1 isn't how to go along with the gameplay most of the time. Jason is the default killer and is included in the game due to old survive the killer in (Place) games Regarding Lore, they've stated that they'd include most of it in an arg, where you can do some of it right now (Though isn't finished.) and I can understand why you didn't do it or know about it. Stamina management is very important in this game. If the killer had more Max Stamina, It'd mess up balancing alltogether. You pointed out that Guest's Parry stuns for 3.5 seconds, but if you played the game more, you'd understand why its that long. Guest 1337 has to land his guard move first, then punch immediately after in order to get this stun. The problem with it is that you can EASILY bait both of these moves which HEAVILY punishes Guest 1337 if not done right. Chance and Two Time are both OC's for the game and they plan to add more as well. Generators (That dumb light puzzle) are also getting reworked for the game's next update. Please, give the game more time and understand how it plays before commenting on its balancing.
"Do the developers of these games know that?" The admins themself know that! They know precisely that the community cares about the character portrayed through the avatar is someone completely different from who they actually are.
this is not a way to diminish Forsaken's own achivements, however i'd like to point out how awesome of a combination it is of two other games, those being *Pillar Chase 2* (the gameplay cycle is very similar) and *The Robloxia: Until Dawn* (reference for some of the mythos designs, and possibly inspiration for the retro-feel of Forsaken)
I hope he sees this comment, because he doesn't mention The Robloxia: Until Dawn once in the video despite it having a closer correlation to Forsaken than Survive the Killer.
@GlaciaIVortex one of the developers made a vid about forsaken origin and other stuff, he confirmed that TRUD and pillar chase 2 were the inspiration for forsaken
in forsaken lore, 007n7 is actually c00lkidd''s father and c00lkidd is 10 years old according to the lore, two time and chance are both oc's so the game isnt only adding characters from the roblox universe.
As someone who soaked in more than 30 hours in Forsaken already, I am surprised to see how bad the takes in these videos were. As much as I know people need to upload to make a living, this video and another one by Tophat King about Pillar Chase 2 can really suck due to not spending enough time in the game to catch the swing of things. Killers are pretty fun to play if you know how to play them. The reason why survivors are hard to kill is also due to them having a single life the whole game compared to the STN 3. I'll admit the game isn't perfect, but making survivors easier to kill as you said would make the survivor side not as fun. Most things you talked about in the video can be countered as you get more experienced. The only problems at the moment is that most killers don't have a lot of good abilities to use mid-chase and are better off just sprinting and that some killers are getting nerfed currently while the average player is getting way better at survivor, requiring the killers to put in alot more effort. Your videos are great, but this one was somewhat of a miss, so I wish you take notes and improve your content further.
One thing I feel should be changed is the teamwork in the game. I feel like survivors aren't encouraged enough to work together. Characters like noob and two time have no abilities to help their team. Yes there is the objective and you can bait or run into the killer but most of the time the killer ignores you.
@@nevernothing1929 while yes i can agree with most of point, two time meant to have abilities, it just still on work right now but lowkey it waa pain and boring to play as them as there's... Nothing much to do especially after the quest already done by anothers and you either had to sit there or help distract the killers
I can understand both the videos points and yours, but I’ve played other games with a similar or exact concept to this game, and right now it’s clearly unbalanced on the killer side, the trend in similar games is that the killer that is OUTNUMBERED should be able to get atleast half or more of the survivors without really requiring a ton of experience. I don’t want it to sound like I hate the game but it’s clearly in its alpha stage and I hope it can improve from here.
Fun fact. CoolKid has alot of special voicelines when killing specific survivors If CoolKid kills Elliot ( The work at a pizza place guy ) He will remark that elliot looks familiar And if he kills his creator 00707. he will say how nice it is to see you dad Cool kid also doesnt know that hes causing harm either
Hello, one out of the many explanation guys here. Jason is the default killer due to him being from a classic game: Area 51. Twotime is a developer OC. From what I've gathered (@Ditto_exists), Chance is meant to represent inside trading within the community of Roblox. Niixx has already explained, but the killer has only 10 extra stamina for a reason. If in the right hands, they could very well decimate a full server despite that nearly useless advantage. Being a killer requires a lot of precision, predicting (especially with 1's ranged attacks), and skill. The survivors are completely helpless if the killer is competent and know what they're doing. Can't wait for the next video being "I was wrong about Forsaken."
John doe’s design seems awfully similar to a script that was used by exploiters (i think it was used pre-fe, fe being filtering enabled.) actual edit: i just learned that theres a literal “Script Builder” skin so i think that thats probably true
i think the reason jason is the default killer is because of scary elevator games or surviving killer games where jason is a very common choice among the selections available also!! this game makes me think of robloxia: until dawn (formerly THE robloxia: until dawn, aka tr:ud), a game im semi-hyperfixated on it feels a lot more balanced than what forsaken seems to be, id recommend giving it a shot if you havent already! edit: typo lmao
@@championskz7897 see i myself never found success in doing that - my guess is that its something to do with my internet or my laptops faulty fans causing lag but idk :/ could also just be a skill issue on my part regardless i still find it fun :D
I think both games are balanced but I might be wrong since I don't base it on myself (I love 200+ ping!). I'd consider forsaken more fun however. In forsaken the killers are actually unique with their abilities meanwhile in TR:UD every monster is almost the same: Damage/speed increase and indication (John Doe being a better sawnoob since both worked pratically the same). And something I really didnt like was how the game had so many bugs. Sure, you're unable to predict if you fixed all of them or if there's more but after every round there was 200+ errors in the dev console 😭. That lead to many annoying things like the game breaking. I also prefer forsaken because, like champion said, the game heavily focused on jumping and circling the killer while in forsaken you can play basketball against the killer. However, everyone has their preferences as to which game they like. Also, props to you if you actually read through all that lol. It's not much text but everytime I type something with +4 lines people tends to ignore it. Also, some stuff I said about TR:UD might be outdated since it's been so long since I played it
@@Just_a_Viewer3851 thats all really fair yeah, i 100% respect and understand where youre coming from i know the current dev team for tr:ud is working on a 4.0 update that plans to overhaul stuff, but i dont know what that'll be like lmao its always good to hear multiple perspectives about stuff like this!! i appreciate you giving your own side of this so calmly and respectfully, thank you also damn im jealous of your ping, mines so inconsistent its insane TwT i think the reason i enjoy tr:ud rn is because i find amusement in some of the ways the game breaks with some of the bugs, and all the killers feel consistent which makes it easier for me to learn how the game works as someone whos a bit mentally slow at times lol, but i totally get how that would turn some ppl away from it some time ill have to check out forsaken and see what i think of it
@nyanbinary69 yeah after being around the internet long enough and having the right friends I learnt that the internet could use more respect. I feel rather ashamed that I used to be rather rude to defend my opinions (which I was imposing as factual). While talking about the bugs, I actually liked to play TR:UD to goof around back then with the bugs (the ones that screwed you over but was funny). Seeing someone getting flinged after downed or getting flinged to Japan after tripping on a pebble as guest 666 was rather funny (even though I really liked to explode clueless survivors). I might play TR:UD again to goof around again. Also, one fun thing that may happen in forsaken (when you play it) is to goof around with some random survivors with the emotes (I love when someone decides to emote on the same spot I'm emoting with the phone emote. Feels like 2 anxious survivors deciding if they should pick the same phone up lol). Some killers also tend to do some goofy activities which you can only understand if they start it (the best ones are rather hard to find, but when they're in your server, they tend to goof mostly when they're against the last survivor). And that's another reason as to why I like forsaken, I love goofing with randoms
One of the things about Forsaken, is its meant to actually give the user a chance to fight and live. also, the killer regenerates stamina way faster than survivor (from what ive seen/or it is just the speed)
If you want a game that just lets you power trip as the killer, then go play pillar chase or smth. If you think the stuns in this game are bad then you should see Sonic.EXE: The Disaster, basically every character has at least one if not more stuns in their kit and can CC you even easier if you're not careful. At least this game gives you 3 seconds of stun immunity between stuns, If you hate them that much then just play John Doe, he has 2 passives that make you faster after being stunned and reduce your stun time respectively. Doesn't exactly help your case that you bought all the killers yet like only one or two other survivors. Goes to show that you were expecting a power trip. The game CAN be a power trip, if you're willing to learn. Also all the stuns in the game are very punishable if baited, Punch and guard have heavy endlag, and the whole 3.5 seconds of stun from parrying? Yeah you gotta land the punch AFTER the block, which is still hard to do as blocking an attack doesn't stun the killer. Chance's Gun? It has a 25% chance to do nothing, 25% chance to blow up in your face, potentially one shotting you thanks to the weakness you stack up from your coin flip, and only a 50% chance to fire, even then it has a lot of wind up and can easily be weaved or negated by ducking behind cover. I'm not saying there's no flaws, but there's a lot of stuff you just ignored. Oh, and Jason's "Ult" as you called it? You can use your other moves during it to damn near one shot or shred hp, and you're meant to use it as a tool to get in and finish the job, not chase people down.
13:33 That's the point of forsaken, the survivors aren't meant to be helpless, it's like sonic.exe the disaster but with stamina, survivors can survive on their own but that doesn't mean they will, you shouldn't go into forsaken with the mindset of killer is all powerful and survivors are weak fodder it just isn't true.
Exactly, it's unlike pc2 and sonic.exe the disaster and trud 2, it actually gives survivors a chance but makes that chance very hard or just outright have to use stupid methods to achieve (Examples being Niix's firing squad video showing how chance can kill a killer) Survivors are self sufficent and actually have a way to fight back and triumph with killing a killer but it's extremely unlikely. But that chance makes all the difference in the world between an edgy ass game like trud 2 which ended up just seeming outright edgy to me (let me clarify that's a personal opinion since all you can really do in that game is delay the inevitable against actually good killers and have no way to perma kill them) and pc2 where the main gameplay loop is being the killer. It gives fun to survivors, something that pc2 couldn't do and trud 2 didn't do properly. Those games are amazing in their own aspects especially with their monsters and lore (yes trud 2 lore is edgy as hell bu tit's actually somewhat good) and both of their insane game quality and in depth mechanics. In the end hopefully forsaken can manage to merge these gameplays together and become more noticeable then it is currently.
there is PROBABLY a comment about some stuff about the game but ehhhhh Two Time is an OC, not an actual character from somewhere in roblox's history (from what i have heard), but im not sure about chance at all the killers in the game arent all gonna be from mythos and stuff like that, they are rather gonna be more diverse. Some of them myths, some of them hackers and the others things from other roblox games and other stuff, like Jeff the Killer (an upcoming killer) for the gameplay, yeah i kinda agree at some parts but theres other stuff that can stop this. For the stun use John Doe because John has something against stuns, rather making the stun shorter and giving him a speedboost as a punishment for stunning him the generators are good for me, theres certain patterns to some generators which means that if you know them the generators will be pretty much free. also another detail, whenever its a 1v1 there are certain situations where the song that plays in a 1v1 changes to something, for example: 007 and c00lkidd, shedletsky and 1x1 (i would yap about the reason to why they play but im kinda lazy and at the time of writing this my food is literally freezing)
@@vioveela reading about that, honestly thats like a really sick concept ngl making a character that represents a side of something and making their abilities related to that side is awesome
I've been playing this game a few days now and I disagree with the balancing side, now to be fair I have a lot of experience in the horror asymmetrical genre with 4,000 on dbd alone, but I feel as the balancing can be a bit rough but this game arguably has a qay higher skill ceiling than any other roblox asym requiring stamina management, game knowledge/map knowledge and understanding how each ability works, my first games were rough as most ayms are but once I got adjusted to it I found killer was very strong when used correctly and it takes time to learn (like with every horror asym out there). In a sense I do agree that balancing does seem bad, but that would really only be the case for a newer player has hasn't quite figured everything out yet. You do make a few good points but respectfully I think a lot these are lead by misunderstanding and lack of experience. I do think some things can change in regards to stun lengths but forsaken like dbd you need to put time and research/experiment to get better at. I've never played survive the killer because it just looks like a cash grab but its gameplay is simplistic and not really comparable to forsaken in gameplay other than its a horror asym.
Honestly... skill issue. When playing as any role you have to actually think and save stamina in situations like Guest 1337 missing their charge, Noob using their slateskin potion or any drink near you, etc. Or do you just want to play a reskin of Sonic.exe: The disaster? Unstoppable killers are... not fun. Because of the fact that they are faster than you and you cannot defend yourself it's a guaranteed loss, you cannot run, it's the same as you said before. It's "cat and mouse" but imagine we are the small mouse against a lion. It isn't fun, the winner is quite clear. The stamins system is to avoid jumping mechanics and killer not being able to catch up to the survivors considering that if the survivor notices the killer approaching them, they will just run away and make more distance due to being either equally as fast or a bit faster than survivors. With a stamins system, you actually have to think instead of going into a braineless rampage killing anything you touch. As i said, skill issue. Killers also have abilities to ambush people or hit from distance(except Jason, but he has enrage for a extra movility boost, almost like a dash since to catch up to someone you're gonna have to use ur enraged slash) like c00lkid's pizza delivery and projectile, almost all the abilities in 1x1x1x1's set and John Doe's abilities and passives.(seriously if you want a unstopabble machine of killing just use John Doe, he can only be stunned at max for 2.175 seconds, gains a speed boost and also deals the most damage) Your opinion was so bad, i'm gonna compare it to Under The Mayo's ULTRAKILL review. Edit: also, you cant stunlock the killer, there are s unlike SOME games(im looking at you sonic.exe td), so you just have to move out of the way or let the second guest charge at you before the 4.5 seconds are up to get a free kill. And if you havent learnt how to bait a block then... skill issue, Guest 1337 can't take risks so they will most definetely take the bait.
Its actually really easy to bait guests’s blocks, i keep doing it accidentally, most people tend to use block in a panic, so get really close to them and wait for a few nano seconds, that should do the trick, that’s my experience for the guests, but mine could be just stupid.
i'm not gonna lie i almost completely disagree on the killers part the killers are actually really easy to play, its just that a lot of people are bad at killer despite this. (literally every single one of my friend group won their first killer round, which i get might be anecdotal, but still) "balancing" (buffing) the killer wouldn't necessarily make the game more fun to play (especially considering there is only 6 survivors) one thing you note is that jason's chase ability "sucks". jason's ability isnt meant to be used as a sprint, its meant to be used as endurance. you can argue whether this is a good thing or not but you seem to criticize jason's ability for its lack of speed. the thing is, you can really easily sprint towards an enemy, and when they sprint away, use the ability. they won't have any sprint left and then you just bully them, and it's particularly effective at chasing people down the ENTIRE POINT is to be slower than the survivors sprint, so they CAN run away, while jason is still inching towards them when they have no sprint. (literally you can run but you cant hide) a lot of things in this game deserve criticism, but i feel like you completely missed the mark on WHAT those things are. one thing i agree with is that survivor is more fun to play as, but killers should be reworked, not necessarily buffed. the game is MEANT to give each individual survivor a chance if i said anything wrong you guys can reply about it or something
interopsty how did you read my mind? The Jason part ITS LITERALLY ME YELLING THIS AT EVERYONE WHO SAYS 4TH MOVE SUCKS!!! Anways I dont think killers need buff.....THEY NEED NERF LIKE SERIOUSLY! When i started playing i watched some videos but almost never saw 1x1x1x1 gameplays. My reaction after losing 15 times by 1x1x1x1 without winning once: Bro why that poison deals 50 damage??? Why i can get sniped from the other side of map?! If you have 1x1x1x1 you can not lose as killer its IMPOSSIBLE!!! Yea 1x4 needs NERF do badly
@@JonaszCiułaI recommend you to watch videos of the killer. When you hear chains beware of a ranged attack and when you're being chased look behind and try to dodge the projectiles.
@@IcyTz I have nearly 200 killer wins and milestone four on John Doe here are some killer tips. Learn stamina management and using your abilities correctly, try not to get looped and outsmart the survivors, whiff stuns/punishes (ex: walk backwards when a shedletskey slashes) learn how the survivor plays and go from there, dont care about people emoting target them they’re free, find which killer best suits your playstyle.
The forsaken killers arent actually supposed to be only myths, the killers and characters are supposed to be characters from other communities(if im not mistaken). For an example of this is that blue from Rainbow friends was supposed to be a killer, and bear from bear(Alpha) was also going to be part aswell.
6:41 ITS HIM, SHEDLETSKY, THE O. AND ONLY LEGEND, AND HE HAVE A SKIN OF A PILE OF 5 SHEDLETSKY, A PILE OF 5 SHEDLETSKY, this game is aredy perfect to me.
i was honestly scared to say "this sounds like a skill issue" since i would think i would get attacked but suprised to see people agreeing (ive won multiple times as a killer and survivor and they are both fun) even though i play one of the "bad killers" some people say (aka coolkid) where its easily able to bait out survivors (and guests ability doesnt even stun for that long AND is one of the most baitable survivors in the game)
7:08 I feel like Roblox has also become aware of the idea. In the classic there is a part in the lobby which is like one of those “say the characters name to open the door” games, and if I recall correctly, shedletsky appears there along with builder man and 1x1x1x1x
Fun Fact (i think) : in the lobby there are two certain characters one is Brandon which is from the brandonworks arg and ajarbythedoor which is from RecallingaHollowHeart (i think). Also one of the maps is basically from the brandon arg
Like a lot of people here, I completely disagree with your take regarding killers being bad and them not being terrifying/fun to play. As killer, you only have 10 more stamina than the survivors because otherwise you'd be able to just catch up to ANY survivor without effort due to being faster than them and have mobility/ranged attacks. Onto the crowd control point, there are only 3 stun abilities in the game, 2 short ranged and 1 long. Guest 1337 has one, but he NEEDS to land block first, which is the most baitable ability in the game. You can literally just run briefly towards a guest to pressure them into block and immediately capitalize after the block with a ws override or a 1x stun. Shedletsky's a bit more tricky since his stun isnt locked behind anything, but it can still be baited with the same principles.The ONLY uncounterable stun in the game is chance's gun stun, but it quite literally relies on RNG to function. If his gun fails or explodes while youre chasing him, he might as well become the weakest character in the game with how defenseless he becomes. As for killers being terrifying and fun to play, you just have to play good. Killers are horrifying when you realize that they know the jukes, the tricks, and their character. On the other hand, as a killer, if you play with how you play in the video, then yeah you wont have fun. Thats because you fall into every trap in the book. If youre consistently getting hot by stuns, thats YOUR fault, not the game's. Otherwise, if you play good, you have a lot of fun massacring through the bundle of sheep thrown in your way.
Every single stun in this game has a counter. Their are ways to avoid every single stun. Hell, a competent killer shouldnt get stunned AT ALL. Shedletskys slash has mediocire range and a long windup, allowing for easy baiting. Chances gun has a chance to either not do shit, or backfire, and even if it does work it has a huge windup and is easily dodgeable if your somewhat good at dodging. Guest 1773's stun is the only one thats really easy to hit, because thats practically his entire gimmick. Like Shedletsky, his stun has a long windup, but theirs one big counter to guest. He has to block your attacks to even USE this stun, meaning a good killer can bait a guest over and over and get free hits. Stunners are complete garbage if you have some brainpower to counter them. Plus, stuns also let you regain stamina. The timeloss from a stun is usually never noticed that much unless you already had max stamina as killer to begin with. This video has so much missinfo its not even funny. You need to play a game more to make a review on it.
This game community is peak, i joined a server and theres was 2 shedleskys challenging every killer to a pokémon battle, in the same server ALL survivors was chasing the killer
I feel like your seeing forsaken through the wrong lens by comparing it to survive the killer. Its more like the robloxia until dawn and sonic.exe the disaster. But the problem is it also draws some inspiration from pillar chase 2 which. In sonic.exe the disaster the killer has infinite stamina and is able to catch up to the survivor more easily. To make it fair all the survivors have an abillity and they all are able to cc or stun lock. But pillar chase 2 both monster and survivor have stamina to make up for it survivors get nothing but items and 1 healing item while monsters get good abillities. But mixing them is a problem because if a monster has stamina but is able to be stun locked it kinda becomes to easy for the survivors to win. I agree with everything you said but just saying this because forsaken wasnt supposed to be like survive the killer. Its just a bad mix of three popular games that can be fixed.
@7uffluck imo, they mix abilities and stamina well. It's difficult, sure. But you get stamina back during stuns, and carefully managing your stam like PC2 can really help. I honestly really like that it has that element instead of being able to run infinitely with stuns and movement boosts as I feel it balances all of those things out more.
Soul has never played pc2 before at all but has played it once in a stream night they did not take any inspiration and thought the game needed a lot of fixes
John Doe's design is based off an old roblox script that was used to scare kids they perfectly recreated it with their own ideas and got it even down to the text in his intro animation
Also, something that i noticed is that, you just get XP as killers by WINNING, so that means is if you killed everyone but 1 survives, you get nothing, while survivors get XP by winning and do tasks, that's is just stupid and makes the killers way worse in my opinion. Edit: you actually get XP by killing, but it's so small that you don't see a difference and its worse than getting XP as a survivor.
I agree with the gameplay feeling off, but this game is based off that sonic exe game right?? and The robloxia until dawn??? I dont think your survive the killer game had much to do with this game.
Yea i expected everything: sonic.exe the disaster, the robloxia until dawn or even the freaking pillar chase 2 BUT SURVIVE THE KILLER?!?! IT HAS EVERYTHING DIFFERENT THEN FORSAKEN!
I want to point out that Forsaken doesn't just take characters from the Roblox Mythos, but characters from Roblox history, horror games, and other communities. For example, Sonic.EXE (2011x) is being added to the game but specifically the one from the game "Sonic.EXE: The Disaster" which is a survival horror game on Roblox. Some other examples include Slenderman, Jeff the Killer, and Jason, all from Escape Area 51 (I'm pretty sure). Some killers that were scrapped (because the owner couldn't get permission to use them) included Blue from Rainbow Friends, the Bear from BEAR, and Figure from DOORS (Figure is an uncertain character, meaning they are unsure if they are being added or not). They are even adding their own original characters and takes on characters such as Two Time (being an OC), a new take on Jane Doe (a NPC), a new take on Guest 666, and The Bomber (a killer that I'm 86.42% sure is based on "Super Bomb Survival").
DAMNNNN didnt expect a forsaken video! Only played it a few times and all the point made here were valid 👌 Anyways you should check out critical strike 😈 also here is some late new years money 🎉 Edit: I have fumbled the bag with this one 💀 after playing it more and more, i still do think that the survivors have more advantage then the killer if you dont know what your doing but when you do its hella fun. Knowing that you arnt a complete power house adds an element of fun you dont see from piller chase and etc that i really like
Okay, look. Let me clarify something. In this game it takes a form of "be smart, or get outsmarted." Let me explain: Killers, you need to know your weakness and those of your targets, if you play as coolkid, you know that you cannot track down survivors as easily as other killers, so any chase is a nice one, you have a powerful chase built kit that let's you chase a single survivor in oblivion if you use your tools right. However, if you loose a survivor it will be harder to track them down, as you only rely on your henchmen for tracking. 1x1 is very slow in normal chase, but he's a looming dread, seeing every survivor from across the map and able to keep pressure with his ranged attacks across the map, never letting survivors to rest, however if they know what they are doing it is harder to hit your hits but not impossible. And John Doe is an anti juke character, stepping on his tracks applies effect similar to poison, your wall of spikes not only damage but also block the tracks for survivors but not for you. Your traps can lock away key portions of the map, but in chase you need to think smart on your abilitues use, specially the spike walls. Survivors: Every ability can backfire if used improperly, chance has a chance to backfire even on max stacks, guest gets heavily punished for whiffing, and elliot and egineer are very fragile and easy to kill due to almost no way to escape. Youcan always outrun the killer but if they use their ability right, sooner or later, you will die. Adding 50 seconds to the timer.
@noooonoooo2010 wrong use of the abilities always slugs the killer, not to mention if they miss completely. Every survivor also has their tools to outpace the killer, be it stuns, boosts, heals, ext. You either outsmart or get outsmarted. Except Jason, Jason is straight up a simple m1 killer, because he almost never slows down and is thr fastest killer in the game makes him a grave threat if he's locked on someone, and you won't get their attention off, that survivor might die from constant chase and pressure alone... Edit: Also survivors must spot killers before they spot them. Killers constantly use their stamina and survivors walk for quite a while of the match, in other words when 1st chase with survivor begins it's in the survivor's favor if spotted from a far, because killer most likely has 60 or below that amount of stamina.
IM TWEAKING, everyone is hype over forsaken for the myth and hacker characters but i swear to GOD I AINT SEE NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE ROBLOXIA - UNTIL DAWN WHICH DID IT (i think) FIRST
Until dawn did do it first but forsaken has more.. content? It did it in a way that makes it fun and i do love the music in until dawn but both communties both love each game
This game is mostly meant to be survivor sided because killer sided as proved with pillar chase is not fun at all. You have to actually have skill in this game to actively be able to survivor wipe or face off against a seriously good killer. The game is mostly meant to be fun but can be serious at times. The balance and generators are being worked
I am so happy I've seen this video. I started playing forsaken the day before this video came out. SO happy to see content about it even if it isn't gameplay. happy the game gets some attention.
While yes imo the balancing can be tweaked killers are not as bad as people think and can easily lobby wipe 8 people and still have 2 minutes before final stand, It just depends on what killer and how they play. Just use your abilities correctly and be quick. Learn the maps, learn to preserve your stamina, learn to not use Raging Pace as an offensive tool. I see a common complaint from this video saying “why do killers only have ten more stamina than the survivors” I get it can be annoying sometimes but multiplying the stamina by FOUR is not gonna fix that. And it doesn’t matter because every killer out staminas and out speeds a survivor, just learn to preserve your stamina and you will be fine. It also helps that many killers have ways to counteract that issue you keep bringing up, abilities that can speed you up, abilities that can apply helpless or stun the survivors, abilities that make you lunge forward, abilities that can zone survivors and cut off important choke points. All of these can help you end a chase in no more than 20 seconds. Another common complaint I see from this video are stuns, or “CC chains” every stun can be whiffed out by just holding A and walking backwards making the survivor be in a terrible position. Theres also a 3 second window where you cant be stunned a second time so the “chain” part confuses me. Yes survivors are strong but are they so strong to the point killers are “a balancing nightmare?” Absolutely not. My tips are learn to preserve your stamina and use your abilities, dont tunnel a survivor for hella long, and try to kill the biggest threats first (ex: Two Time, Elliot, Builderman) Just give the game more time and come back, im sure your opinion should change.
this is the worst review ever, it literally boils down to "I'm bad at the game so it sucks". You're literally complaining about being stunned by clearly choreographed attacks that you can dodge with ease, the survivors are not meant to be helpless. sure they are meant to be killed and such but they aren't supposed to be easy to kill. The dispenser isn't useless it slowly heals survivors making it good for when the killer isn't nearby and you have some time to spare. The dispenser is also used as a distraction as the killer will usually go for it and ignore people giving survivors time to run. get good and stop complaining.
For real, this dude sucks at the game he’s telling the viewers “oH My gOd!1! ThIS gAmE suCks beCaUsE I aM baD at It!1!1!” Or something like that. Yeah, you’re bad but it doesn’t mean the game is BAD as a whole. Not the game’s fault that you keep falling for stuns.
His points are heavily exaggerated, this game isn’t incredibly unbalanced, it’s just a bit more survivor sided. There’s definitely some nerfs that should happen such as Elliot’s pizza, chances gun and limiting the stuns just a little bit. However, we do gotta remember it’s in alpha, the development team are already addressing a lot of issues which is great sign.
well its still on alpha so i dont really mind if the character is kinda bad and theres only a few charat into the game so we could still gave them a chance to improve the game
WAIT WHAT?? NOOOOOOOOO! I was thinking of creating a game based around the myth’s and cannon Roblox groups 😭😭 It’s so hard to have an original concept nowadays 😭 Oh to go back to the days which you could invent a new word just by writing it and telling everyone “it’s true trust me bro”, back then everything was so gr- oh wait I wouldn’t have rights
they aren’t copyrighted or something what are you worried about? your not going to be hunted down by a wolf pack because you used some myths which so happened to be used in a popular game.
it may not be original in concept, but everything has it’s own charm in some way. just make it unique enough to not be an exact copy and it’s still it’s own thing.
7:54 It’s a strange thing, at the same time that the R15 shild be more expressive, the R6 is easyer to animate, and this ends being better to do things like multiplex animation, using R15 can in the end be less expressive because of have leass animations, What is very strange.
im sorry, but you genuinely did NOT play this game enough to truly understand how to play it, especially on the killer side this game exhibits a relatively high skill ceiling compared to other roblox games. you need to learn how to manage stamina, zone survivors, and understand how to utilize each of your abilities to their fullest. this isnt something you get a proper grasp on if you only play the game for a few hours. playing killer WILL seem extraordinarily unfun and unbalanced if you barely know what youre doing. you also stated that you hadnt played dbd before, which has a very similar play style to that of this game. one difference being that killers have even less in their arsenal than this game, which would seemingly make them more simple. however, people have to spend an absurd amount of time learning how to play killers at their best. theyre able to exemplify how much there is behind each of the killers despite them seeming so simple, same goes for forsaken. despite the game just coming out, people have grinded non stop in order to continuously better themselves. theres a LOT more to these games than first meets the eye (such as strategy and mind games) and it takes a lot of practice to genuinely understand. while making the game slightly survivor sided, i believe that the introduction of survivor abilities adds unbelievable amounts of depth to this game. most of the games in genre are entirely focused on either being better as the killer or playing against the killer. this game provides the opportunity to also better yourself as survivor by learning how to maximize your abilities in both chase and support. creating a system where playing survivor is just as fun and interesting as killer has easily made forsaken my new favorite asymmetrical horror game.
I aint gonna lie, it would be awesome if there was a story, just swapping between different killers and survivors, (literally EVERYONE!) and you can choose who survives, literally just a “select your character” and that one specific killer or survivor lives, and based on who you choose, the ending changes. Wouldn’t that be cool?
Sonic the disasters have the same gameplay too, you should talk about it since they put it to a unique twist, different than forsaken and came out way earlier.
Honesty I had a lot of problems playing the game… like the monster is waaaaay to fast it should be the survivors that are faster and the monsters have abilities to keep up and don’t get me started on the stunning and nerds looping but it has great graphics just needs some tweaks on the gameplay tbh
for me forsaken is my favorite escape the killer type game because it provides a new experience of being able to do something as the survivor and for me it provides for connection between the players
@@BedsheetGhost_ as a representative of the TR:UD community, pls make a video about the game we are nearly dead. We have 1/2 the players of phighting. We need help
11:32 That ability is more of a lunge. Yes, you’re slower when using it. But (potentially) if you use it after both you and a survivor use their stamina. You move faster, know where they are. And get a lunge on your next attack to catch up.
V1 skin for guest 1337 How to obtain? Do an [+PARRY] block and right after land a punch on the killer,easy! V2 skin for chance How to obtain: flip the coin when you have 2 charges. If you get 3, shoot the killer in under 10 seconds.
I would comment about how this video didn't give Forsaken justice and how this review is horrible, but there is already like a thousand comments regarding this, so I won't bother. I know he praised certain parts about the game, but everything he criticized just straight up makes no sense, it just sounds like he has a grudge about everything gameplay wise.
Fun fact: blue from rainbow friends was going to be added, but since one of the dev heard that they normally the devs from rainbow friends normally didn't give permision to anyone to use his charaters he decided to not even ask
7:12 Huuuuuuuuuuum, for be honest, i think that we shold remember him in some way, but i don’t think that make him a carecter is odd, it is… his avatar, idk, i am just a really fan of him.
Daybreak has a lot of really cool creativity to its characters and maps, but survivor bullying (or, when every survivor comes together to stun you while also looping you on hard tiles) is as wild in that game as it is in DBD
(apologize in advance for this long winded comment bro don't take this too seriously 😭) I don't agree actually, and I think this was a miss of a video. Some of the criticisms you bring up with the game don't sit right with me, and there were some things that you missed which I figured I'd go over. There were really only 2 things you missed: 1. Jason is here because he's from a Roblox game called "Survive the Killers in Area 51" ( ironic. ) Both the Area 51 Jason and Forsaken Jason have the same look. Future characters will also come from other Roblox games / communities, such as Jeff The Killer from, you guessed it, Survive the Killers in Area 51. That and Slenderman from "Stop it Slender!". 2. Chance and Two-Time are OCs from the developers of Forsaken, which was probably the reason you didn't recognize them. Chance also doesn't just have gun, he's a luck-based survivor. Apparently, he's also some sort of metaphor for the inside trading within the Roblox community ( nabbed from a comment ). Two-Time gets two times to live, though is currently not that great. (praise the upcoming two-time rework 🙏) In my experience, killers CAN feel both powerful, and threatening. Both to play as, and to go against. You just have to get used to the swing of things. Though, with that being said, I feel like the main issue with Forsaken is getting into the swing of things, because it feels like a struggle. I've sunken like, 10 hours overall into this game and I still cannot get into the rhythm of this game. Nor the hitboxes of this game either. (Skill issue on my part lowkey but shhh...) I'm sure that half of your problems would be solved if you sunk enough time into the game though. Also saying it'd be a non-issue if survivors were just as helpless is insane, I can't even lie. They have abilities because if they didn't, I'm pretty sure every experienced killer would be licking their lips like that one Sonic looking guy gif bro 😭 I think the only points I can really agree with, are Jasons ult, as well as it feeling like a game of cat and mouse (excluding the bigger mouse in a wheelchair part). Elsewise, I don't think most of these other issues you have with the game are really that valid. Making the killers that much more threatening then they already are by quadrupling stamina, and making them deal significantly more damage is just overkill, despite the chain stuns. I just think the issue is learning how to use them. Yes, killers could do with some tweaks, but overall I don't think they're bad to play as, and are pretty powerful as they are already. You just might need to get into the swing of things. If you want a game where you can easily shred through survivors go play pillar chase or something, because the vibe you give talking about giving the killers 4x more stamina, or significantly more damage just feels like you want to play as an overpowered monster. There's already a guide on this game made by Vee if you want some tips and tricks on how to play killers, or even survivors. The game also has an Official Discord server, so you may want to join that for any questions regarding the game, or updates.
From my experience, the games just kinda… slow and unengaging? Like, it’s got cool as hell art and design choices but if I’m looking for gameplay, there’s no reason I’d choose Forsaken over something like Daybreak, Pillar Chase, or Trepidation in the DBD like genre. Like you said, it’s mostly hobbling around a map until a chase happens, the fun part of basically every game in this genre. The games might not be for me in its current state, but hopefully with some revamps I’ll be able to enjoy it more.
Now, I do think that the killer CAN be good in the right hands, but I will say the issues with each killer that are quite bad. Jason NEEDS to be breath on someone to get use out of his abilities. C00lkidd’s walkspeed override is literally a free escape for the survivors if you miss, plus his projectile doesn’t aim properly on mobile. John Doe’s abilities make him stand still, which results in them being quite meh if not used at the right time and place (not the biggest of an issue tbh), but the greatest offender is 1x1x1x1. His ULTIMATE ABILITY IS UNUSABLE ON MOBILE. The button if offscreen and basically unpressable.
Great review, but flaws wise, what you basically said just screams out "screw the other players playing i just wanna have the chance to murder everyone in a whim" Coming from a player that just started playing Forsaken (aswell the killer genre), I think Forsaken has great gameplay and not over the board balancing. You may find playing as the Killer for the first time "hard" or "frustrating" against already experienced players, thats because you must employ tactics and develop a sense of pattern in order to bait/lure them to their most vurnerable position. Running straight at Guest 1337 or Shedletsky or hell, any of the other survivors will open you to lots of counters, your stamina is barely above the Survivor's because you have an advantage in Spriniting speed and you'll most likely catch up to them if you manage your stamina well. You as both the killer and the survivor must develop a strategy to gain an advantage in order to the WIN the game, getting juked as the killer means you're not focusing or you're trying to strike them at a predictable pace. The skill floor and ceiling gap is extremely large even if it doesn't seem like it.
i definitely see flaws in this game, considering as it just released, but its honestly one of my favorite games already. the way it integrates myths and references to older roblox makes it so fun to get into
the reason jason is the default character is probably because of the survive and kill the killers in area 51 game
It quite literally is his intro
Jason, Jeff The Killer and Slenderman have were pretty popular killers in the early era of roblox. So it seems reasonable to add them in due to their popularity way back when.
Though, Jeff and Slenderman are still not present, it's cool we got to see Jason, who is iconic in his own right and quite more popular.
@@AceOfSpades27236 jeff the killer and slenderman will be added later on
Forsaken's killer cast is composed of roblox myths and unoriginal things that made their way into roblox, these being as you mentioned jason, jeff, slenderman and other ones like sonic.exe. Their plan according to one of the devs is to add killers to the game that show the progression of horror on roblox, from the classic era to ig today, which is also why they allegedly wanted to add blue from rainbow friends and figure from doors.
@@ignis_e They also wanted to add BEAR from BEAR (Alpha) but didn't get to
watching this is kinda painful cause what it seems like to me is you think the balancing is awful because the skill ceiling is a lot higher than your typical roblox game. Killers ARE fun, and they ARE terrifying, in the right hands. While I admit the balancing isn't perfect, it sure as hell isn't a nightmare. Yeah I agree that some survivor stuff could probably use some nerfs like stuns (and the whole idea of canceling abilities with stuns is stupid) but what makes this game fun is READING people. Survivors like Shedletsky & Guest 1337 can stun you but they have to LAND the hit, and missing puts them in a terrible position where they could die instantly if the killer knows what they are doing. Killers only have 10 more stamina so that the killer has to utilize their abilities & map pressure to zone survivors in a position where they can get hits.
Honestly there's a lot to be said, and im sure if you give the game more time you'll take back a lot of the takes you had, but calling the game a balancing nightmare isn't a pill hard to swallow, its just plain out wrong.
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Hi tier list guy. 🐰
this is why you are the goat
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Roblox Forsaken review has INCREDIBLE potential....
In Forsaken, 007n7 is actually C00LKIDD’s father lore wise. Also C00LKIDD is only 10 years old according to the game, he thinks murdering everyone is just a game since he’s a child.
Also Guest 666 will be added to the game in the future which add some lore relating to Guest 1337.
@greg9014 I think you mean noob, he has lore with guest 666
will guest 666 be a killer or a survivor
@@sirtopoftheworldegg he’ll be a killer.
@@sirtopoftheworldegg killer, obv
@@unkwonblue5517 That's TRUD's lore not Forsake-
A note for TWOTIME and CHANCE:
Twotime is a developer’s OC.
Chance is meant to represent inside trading within the Roblox community (and is somehow connected with work at a Casino)
Jason is meant to be from the Area 51 game.
No wonder chance added cus there's Sol's rng and it's clones and fisch
chance is probably a reference to how roblox is full of gambling games
twotime and chance IS NOT apart of the team😭🙏
@@BOB_MOB_BOB_MOB bro did you read the comment 💔
i mean what i expect from a bob mob guy (i hate those guys so much they are like rats)
@@itsepicdarkheart6705 what did I ever do, and of course I read it you doofus.
The devs acknowledge the fact that the game is survivor sided and are actively working on balancing the game.
@FunnyHandleThatIHaveToEnter what do you mean, right now 1x1x1x1 is stupidly unfair, you probably will not win and right now it's super killer sided
@vanillashine2689 they mean for literally every killer other than 1x1x1x1
@mememan3609 yeah that seems about right.
Also he has a goddanm skill issue you're supposed to predict other surivors for stuns and to manage your stamina
@vanillashine2689 1x1x1x1 isn't that bad especially on maps with elevation, all you really need to do to counter him is to be smart with your your movement and stamina.
This video actually hurt to watch.
Look, theres a lot to the game you've thrown under the bus without giving it a good chance and you should really try to play the game more.
Jason's Raging Pace Ability (The one you talked about) was nerfed in a recent update and is getting rebuffed to make it stronger
You can't stun chain killers as they have a 3 second stun immunity period.
You can easily bait stuns against survivors and punish whiffs. W+M1 isn't how to go along with the gameplay most of the time.
Jason is the default killer and is included in the game due to old survive the killer in (Place) games
Regarding Lore, they've stated that they'd include most of it in an arg, where you can do some of it right now (Though isn't finished.) and I can understand why you didn't do it or know about it.
Stamina management is very important in this game. If the killer had more Max Stamina, It'd mess up balancing alltogether.
You pointed out that Guest's Parry stuns for 3.5 seconds, but if you played the game more, you'd understand why its that long. Guest 1337 has to land his guard move first, then punch immediately after in order to get this stun. The problem with it is that you can EASILY bait both of these moves which HEAVILY punishes Guest 1337 if not done right.
Chance and Two Time are both OC's for the game and they plan to add more as well.
Generators (That dumb light puzzle) are also getting reworked for the game's next update.
Please, give the game more time and understand how it plays before commenting on its balancing.
Good points your making, hope he reads this.
+every kill adds about 30 seconds to the timer
Fr, and if I remember correctly, the game is still in Alpha! It's got some ways to go before reaching it's full potential
RAGING PACE AND GENERATOR REWORK???? THAT SOUNDS SO EPIC!!!!!!!
Imo I find it so hard to even play as a survivor and bros talking about how he feels powerless as a killer 😭🙏
"Do the developers of these games know that?" The admins themself know that! They know precisely that the community cares about the character portrayed through the avatar is someone completely different from who they actually are.
anyways wow this video reeks you just. dont get the game at all
Big agree.
this is not a way to diminish Forsaken's own achivements, however i'd like to point out how awesome of a combination it is of two other games, those being *Pillar Chase 2* (the gameplay cycle is very similar) and *The Robloxia: Until Dawn* (reference for some of the mythos designs, and possibly inspiration for the retro-feel of Forsaken)
I hope he sees this comment, because he doesn't mention The Robloxia: Until Dawn once in the video despite it having a closer correlation to Forsaken than Survive the Killer.
I’m pretty sure The Robloxia: until dawn is inspired by sonic.exe: the disaster
@GlaciaIVortex thats because it is.
@GlaciaIVortex one of the developers made a vid about forsaken origin and other stuff, he confirmed that TRUD and pillar chase 2 were the inspiration for forsaken
Basically PC2 + Robloxian until dawn + DBD
in forsaken lore, 007n7 is actually c00lkidd''s father and c00lkidd is 10 years old according to the lore, two time and chance are both oc's so the game isnt only adding characters from the roblox universe.
As someone who soaked in more than 30 hours in Forsaken already, I am surprised to see how bad the takes in these videos were. As much as I know people need to upload to make a living, this video and another one by Tophat King about Pillar Chase 2 can really suck due to not spending enough time in the game to catch the swing of things. Killers are pretty fun to play if you know how to play them. The reason why survivors are hard to kill is also due to them having a single life the whole game compared to the STN 3. I'll admit the game isn't perfect, but making survivors easier to kill as you said would make the survivor side not as fun. Most things you talked about in the video can be countered as you get more experienced. The only problems at the moment is that most killers don't have a lot of good abilities to use mid-chase and are better off just sprinting and that some killers are getting nerfed currently while the average player is getting way better at survivor, requiring the killers to put in alot more effort.
Your videos are great, but this one was somewhat of a miss, so I wish you take notes and improve your content further.
One thing I feel should be changed is the teamwork in the game. I feel like survivors aren't encouraged enough to work together. Characters like noob and two time have no abilities to help their team. Yes there is the objective and you can bait or run into the killer but most of the time the killer ignores you.
@@nevernothing1929 while yes i can agree with most of point, two time meant to have abilities, it just still on work right now but lowkey it waa pain and boring to play as them as there's... Nothing much to do especially after the quest already done by anothers and you either had to sit there or help distract the killers
I can understand both the videos points and yours, but I’ve played other games with a similar or exact concept to this game, and right now it’s clearly unbalanced on the killer side, the trend in similar games is that the killer that is OUTNUMBERED should be able to get atleast half or more of the survivors without really requiring a ton of experience. I don’t want it to sound like I hate the game but it’s clearly in its alpha stage and I hope it can improve from here.
Fun fact.
CoolKid has alot of special voicelines when killing specific survivors
If CoolKid kills Elliot ( The work at a pizza place guy )
He will remark that elliot looks familiar
And if he kills his creator 00707. he will say how nice it is to see you dad
Cool kid also doesnt know that hes causing harm either
I think he also has one for guest 1337
"You're strong! But NOT strong enough!" I think it goes like that
So thats why c00lkidd says "That was fun! Lets do that again sometime."
as if they can respawn on a whim
@@zanielgalang367 i mean, they probably do.
@@Player_Santo You were strong, but not strong enough!
one of his stun lines is "IM TELLING DAD"
Hello, one out of the many explanation guys here.
Jason is the default killer due to him being from a classic game: Area 51.
Twotime is a developer OC.
From what I've gathered (@Ditto_exists), Chance is meant to represent inside trading within the community of Roblox.
Niixx has already explained, but the killer has only 10 extra stamina for a reason. If in the right hands, they could very well decimate a full server despite that nearly useless advantage. Being a killer requires a lot of precision, predicting (especially with 1's ranged attacks), and skill. The survivors are completely helpless if the killer is competent and know what they're doing.
Can't wait for the next video being "I was wrong about Forsaken."
John doe’s design seems awfully similar to a script that was used by exploiters (i think it was used pre-fe, fe being filtering enabled.) actual edit: i just learned that theres a literal “Script Builder” skin so i think that thats probably true
theres actually a skin for Doe that makes him into the John Doe Script, so yeah!
That’s clearly what he’s based off of (there’s a skin also referencing the FE exploit too) like he wouldn’t feel special or cool if he looked normal.
i think the reason jason is the default killer is because of scary elevator games or surviving killer games where jason is a very common choice among the selections available
also!! this game makes me think of robloxia: until dawn (formerly THE robloxia: until dawn, aka tr:ud), a game im semi-hyperfixated on
it feels a lot more balanced than what forsaken seems to be, id recommend giving it a shot if you havent already!
edit: typo lmao
yay jump,circle around the killer game
@@championskz7897 see i myself never found success in doing that - my guess is that its something to do with my internet or my laptops faulty fans causing lag but idk :/ could also just be a skill issue on my part
regardless i still find it fun :D
I think both games are balanced but I might be wrong since I don't base it on myself (I love 200+ ping!). I'd consider forsaken more fun however. In forsaken the killers are actually unique with their abilities meanwhile in TR:UD every monster is almost the same: Damage/speed increase and indication (John Doe being a better sawnoob since both worked pratically the same). And something I really didnt like was how the game had so many bugs. Sure, you're unable to predict if you fixed all of them or if there's more but after every round there was 200+ errors in the dev console 😭. That lead to many annoying things like the game breaking. I also prefer forsaken because, like champion said, the game heavily focused on jumping and circling the killer while in forsaken you can play basketball against the killer. However, everyone has their preferences as to which game they like. Also, props to you if you actually read through all that lol. It's not much text but everytime I type something with +4 lines people tends to ignore it. Also, some stuff I said about TR:UD might be outdated since it's been so long since I played it
@@Just_a_Viewer3851 thats all really fair yeah, i 100% respect and understand where youre coming from
i know the current dev team for tr:ud is working on a 4.0 update that plans to overhaul stuff, but i dont know what that'll be like lmao
its always good to hear multiple perspectives about stuff like this!! i appreciate you giving your own side of this so calmly and respectfully, thank you
also damn im jealous of your ping, mines so inconsistent its insane TwT
i think the reason i enjoy tr:ud rn is because i find amusement in some of the ways the game breaks with some of the bugs, and all the killers feel consistent which makes it easier for me to learn how the game works as someone whos a bit mentally slow at times lol, but i totally get how that would turn some ppl away from it
some time ill have to check out forsaken and see what i think of it
@nyanbinary69 yeah after being around the internet long enough and having the right friends I learnt that the internet could use more respect. I feel rather ashamed that I used to be rather rude to defend my opinions (which I was imposing as factual).
While talking about the bugs, I actually liked to play TR:UD to goof around back then with the bugs (the ones that screwed you over but was funny). Seeing someone getting flinged after downed or getting flinged to Japan after tripping on a pebble as guest 666 was rather funny (even though I really liked to explode clueless survivors). I might play TR:UD again to goof around again.
Also, one fun thing that may happen in forsaken (when you play it) is to goof around with some random survivors with the emotes (I love when someone decides to emote on the same spot I'm emoting with the phone emote. Feels like 2 anxious survivors deciding if they should pick the same phone up lol). Some killers also tend to do some goofy activities which you can only understand if they start it (the best ones are rather hard to find, but when they're in your server, they tend to goof mostly when they're against the last survivor). And that's another reason as to why I like forsaken, I love goofing with randoms
One of the things about Forsaken, is its meant to actually give the user a chance to fight and live. also, the killer regenerates stamina way faster than survivor (from what ive seen/or it is just the speed)
@@charlestabuteau5332 That’s not actually true, all characters have the same stamina drain of 10 per second and regen of 20 per second.
@@Just_Some_Animator_Person except the baby two time but we dont talk about him as hes a joke character lol
i feel like this guy just played the characters once and made a a video about it
😭
If you want a game that just lets you power trip as the killer, then go play pillar chase or smth. If you think the stuns in this game are bad then you should see Sonic.EXE: The Disaster, basically every character has at least one if not more stuns in their kit and can CC you even easier if you're not careful. At least this game gives you 3 seconds of stun immunity between stuns, If you hate them that much then just play John Doe, he has 2 passives that make you faster after being stunned and reduce your stun time respectively. Doesn't exactly help your case that you bought all the killers yet like only one or two other survivors. Goes to show that you were expecting a power trip. The game CAN be a power trip, if you're willing to learn. Also all the stuns in the game are very punishable if baited, Punch and guard have heavy endlag, and the whole 3.5 seconds of stun from parrying? Yeah you gotta land the punch AFTER the block, which is still hard to do as blocking an attack doesn't stun the killer. Chance's Gun? It has a 25% chance to do nothing, 25% chance to blow up in your face, potentially one shotting you thanks to the weakness you stack up from your coin flip, and only a 50% chance to fire, even then it has a lot of wind up and can easily be weaved or negated by ducking behind cover. I'm not saying there's no flaws, but there's a lot of stuff you just ignored. Oh, and Jason's "Ult" as you called it? You can use your other moves during it to damn near one shot or shred hp, and you're meant to use it as a tool to get in and finish the job, not chase people down.
13:33 That's the point of forsaken, the survivors aren't meant to be helpless, it's like sonic.exe the disaster but with stamina, survivors can survive on their own but that doesn't mean they will, you shouldn't go into forsaken with the mindset of killer is all powerful and survivors are weak fodder it just isn't true.
I mean... There are only 3 characters that have stunning abilities
Exactly, it's unlike pc2 and sonic.exe the disaster and trud 2, it actually gives survivors a chance but makes that chance very hard or just outright have to use stupid methods to achieve (Examples being Niix's firing squad video showing how chance can kill a killer) Survivors are self sufficent and actually have a way to fight back and triumph with killing a killer but it's extremely unlikely. But that chance makes all the difference in the world between an edgy ass game like trud 2 which ended up just seeming outright edgy to me (let me clarify that's a personal opinion since all you can really do in that game is delay the inevitable against actually good killers and have no way to perma kill them) and pc2 where the main gameplay loop is being the killer. It gives fun to survivors, something that pc2 couldn't do and trud 2 didn't do properly. Those games are amazing in their own aspects especially with their monsters and lore (yes trud 2 lore is edgy as hell bu tit's actually somewhat good) and both of their insane game quality and in depth mechanics. In the end hopefully forsaken can manage to merge these gameplays together and become more noticeable then it is currently.
there is PROBABLY a comment about some stuff about the game but ehhhhh
Two Time is an OC, not an actual character from somewhere in roblox's history (from what i have heard), but im not sure about chance at all
the killers in the game arent all gonna be from mythos and stuff like that, they are rather gonna be more diverse. Some of them myths, some of them hackers and the others things from other roblox games and other stuff, like Jeff the Killer (an upcoming killer)
for the gameplay, yeah i kinda agree at some parts but theres other stuff that can stop this. For the stun use John Doe because John has something against stuns, rather making the stun shorter and giving him a speedboost as a punishment for stunning him
the generators are good for me, theres certain patterns to some generators which means that if you know them the generators will be pretty much free.
also another detail, whenever its a 1v1 there are certain situations where the song that plays in a 1v1 changes to something, for example: 007 and c00lkidd, shedletsky and 1x1 (i would yap about the reason to why they play but im kinda lazy and at the time of writing this my food is literally freezing)
Have a wonderful meal
@@ryankidgamer287 Chance is also an oc! He’s supposed to represent the trading side of the roblox community (if I remember correctly)
@@vioveela reading about that, honestly thats like a really sick concept ngl
making a character that represents a side of something and making their abilities related to that side is awesome
I've been playing this game a few days now and I disagree with the balancing side, now to be fair I have a lot of experience in the horror asymmetrical genre with 4,000 on dbd alone, but I feel as the balancing can be a bit rough but this game arguably has a qay higher skill ceiling than any other roblox asym requiring stamina management, game knowledge/map knowledge and understanding how each ability works, my first games were rough as most ayms are but once I got adjusted to it I found killer was very strong when used correctly and it takes time to learn (like with every horror asym out there).
In a sense I do agree that balancing does seem bad, but that would really only be the case for a newer player has hasn't quite figured everything out yet. You do make a few good points but respectfully I think a lot these are lead by misunderstanding and lack of experience.
I do think some things can change in regards to stun lengths but forsaken like dbd you need to put time and research/experiment to get better at.
I've never played survive the killer because it just looks like a cash grab but its gameplay is simplistic and not really comparable to forsaken in gameplay other than its a horror asym.
Honestly... skill issue. When playing as any role you have to actually think and save stamina in situations like Guest 1337 missing their charge, Noob using their slateskin potion or any drink near you, etc. Or do you just want to play a reskin of Sonic.exe: The disaster?
Unstoppable killers are... not fun. Because of the fact that they are faster than you and you cannot defend yourself it's a guaranteed loss, you cannot run, it's the same as you said before. It's "cat and mouse" but imagine we are the small mouse against a lion. It isn't fun, the winner is quite clear.
The stamins system is to avoid jumping mechanics and killer not being able to catch up to the survivors considering that if the survivor notices the killer approaching them, they will just run away and make more distance due to being either equally as fast or a bit faster than survivors. With a stamins system, you actually have to think instead of going into a braineless rampage killing anything you touch. As i said, skill issue. Killers also have abilities to ambush people or hit from distance(except Jason, but he has enrage for a extra movility boost, almost like a dash since to catch up to someone you're gonna have to use ur enraged slash) like c00lkid's pizza delivery and projectile, almost all the abilities in 1x1x1x1's set and John Doe's abilities and passives.(seriously if you want a unstopabble machine of killing just use John Doe, he can only be stunned at max for 2.175 seconds, gains a speed boost and also deals the most damage)
Your opinion was so bad, i'm gonna compare it to Under The Mayo's ULTRAKILL review.
Edit: also, you cant stunlock the killer, there are s unlike SOME games(im looking at you sonic.exe td), so you just have to move out of the way or let the second guest charge at you before the 4.5 seconds are up to get a free kill. And if you havent learnt how to bait a block then... skill issue, Guest 1337 can't take risks so they will most definetely take the bait.
TRUE!!!
Its actually really easy to bait guests’s blocks, i keep doing it accidentally, most people tend to use block in a panic, so get really close to them and wait for a few nano seconds, that should do the trick, that’s my experience for the guests, but mine could be just stupid.
i'm not gonna lie i almost completely disagree on the killers part
the killers are actually really easy to play, its just that a lot of people are bad at killer despite this. (literally every single one of my friend group won their first killer round, which i get might be anecdotal, but still)
"balancing" (buffing) the killer wouldn't necessarily make the game more fun to play (especially considering there is only 6 survivors)
one thing you note is that jason's chase ability "sucks". jason's ability isnt meant to be used as a sprint, its meant to be used as endurance. you can argue whether this is a good thing or not but you seem to criticize jason's ability for its lack of speed.
the thing is, you can really easily sprint towards an enemy, and when they sprint away, use the ability. they won't have any sprint left and then you just bully them, and it's particularly effective at chasing people down the ENTIRE POINT is to be slower than the survivors sprint, so they CAN run away, while jason is still inching towards them when they have no sprint. (literally you can run but you cant hide)
a lot of things in this game deserve criticism, but i feel like you completely missed the mark on WHAT those things are.
one thing i agree with is that survivor is more fun to play as, but killers should be reworked, not necessarily buffed.
the game is MEANT to give each individual survivor a chance
if i said anything wrong you guys can reply about it or something
@@interopsty how can i be better at killer teach Me i have palyed for 10h and havent one a single round as killer
interopsty how did you read my mind? The Jason part ITS LITERALLY ME YELLING THIS AT EVERYONE WHO SAYS 4TH MOVE SUCKS!!! Anways I dont think killers need buff.....THEY NEED NERF LIKE SERIOUSLY! When i started playing i watched some videos but almost never saw 1x1x1x1 gameplays. My reaction after losing 15 times by 1x1x1x1 without winning once: Bro why that poison deals 50 damage??? Why i can get sniped from the other side of map?! If you have 1x1x1x1 you can not lose as killer its IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Yea 1x4 needs NERF do badly
@@JonaszCiułaI recommend you to watch videos of the killer. When you hear chains beware of a ranged attack and when you're being chased look behind and try to dodge the projectiles.
@@IcyTz I have nearly 200 killer wins and milestone four on John Doe here are some killer tips. Learn stamina management and using your abilities correctly, try not to get looped and outsmart the survivors, whiff stuns/punishes (ex: walk backwards when a shedletskey slashes) learn how the survivor plays and go from there, dont care about people emoting target them they’re free, find which killer best suits your playstyle.
>new roblox horror game
>look inside
>dead by daylight
For real
how on earth is this dead by daylight the differences are absolutely staggering
The forsaken killers arent actually supposed to be only myths, the killers and characters are supposed to be characters from other communities(if im not mistaken). For an example of this is that blue from Rainbow friends was supposed to be a killer, and bear from bear(Alpha) was also going to be part aswell.
wasnt (what i think is) sonic exe there too?
And i hear there is gonna be sonic.exe for this game
@@Ultramanik 2011x
@@Ultramanik Yeah, because of The Disaster and possibly Area 51 games
1. Oh right i forgot about Gray shoes....
2. True
6:41 ITS HIM, SHEDLETSKY, THE O. AND ONLY LEGEND, AND HE HAVE A SKIN OF A PILE OF 5 SHEDLETSKY, A PILE OF 5 SHEDLETSKY, this game is aredy perfect to me.
i was honestly scared to say "this sounds like a skill issue" since i would think i would get attacked but suprised to see people agreeing (ive won multiple times as a killer and survivor and they are both fun) even though i play one of the "bad killers" some people say (aka coolkid) where its easily able to bait out survivors (and guests ability doesnt even stun for that long AND is one of the most baitable survivors in the game)
About the guest i agree. I stopped maining him after seeing these baits BRO ITS HURTING MY EYES!!!!!
Bro guest main be spamming blocks when you’re not even 20 ft near them 😭😭😭
7:08 I feel like Roblox has also become aware of the idea. In the classic there is a part in the lobby which is like one of those “say the characters name to open the door” games, and if I recall correctly, shedletsky appears there along with builder man and 1x1x1x1x
Fun Fact (i think) : in the lobby there are two certain characters one is Brandon which is from the brandonworks arg and ajarbythedoor which is from RecallingaHollowHeart (i think).
Also one of the maps is basically from the brandon arg
Like a lot of people here, I completely disagree with your take regarding killers being bad and them not being terrifying/fun to play.
As killer, you only have 10 more stamina than the survivors because otherwise you'd be able to just catch up to ANY survivor without effort due to being faster than them and have mobility/ranged attacks.
Onto the crowd control point, there are only 3 stun abilities in the game, 2 short ranged and 1 long. Guest 1337 has one, but he NEEDS to land block first, which is the most baitable ability in the game. You can literally just run briefly towards a guest to pressure them into block and immediately capitalize after the block with a ws override or a 1x stun. Shedletsky's a bit more tricky since his stun isnt locked behind anything, but it can still be baited with the same principles.The ONLY uncounterable stun in the game is chance's gun stun, but it quite literally relies on RNG to function. If his gun fails or explodes while youre chasing him, he might as well become the weakest character in the game with how defenseless he becomes.
As for killers being terrifying and fun to play, you just have to play good. Killers are horrifying when you realize that they know the jukes, the tricks, and their character. On the other hand, as a killer, if you play with how you play in the video, then yeah you wont have fun. Thats because you fall into every trap in the book. If youre consistently getting hot by stuns, thats YOUR fault, not the game's. Otherwise, if you play good, you have a lot of fun massacring through the bundle of sheep thrown in your way.
This is the most professional argument I disagree with
Every single stun in this game has a counter. Their are ways to avoid every single stun. Hell, a competent killer shouldnt get stunned AT ALL. Shedletskys slash has mediocire range and a long windup, allowing for easy baiting. Chances gun has a chance to either not do shit, or backfire, and even if it does work it has a huge windup and is easily dodgeable if your somewhat good at dodging. Guest 1773's stun is the only one thats really easy to hit, because thats practically his entire gimmick. Like Shedletsky, his stun has a long windup, but theirs one big counter to guest. He has to block your attacks to even USE this stun, meaning a good killer can bait a guest over and over and get free hits. Stunners are complete garbage if you have some brainpower to counter them. Plus, stuns also let you regain stamina. The timeloss from a stun is usually never noticed that much unless you already had max stamina as killer to begin with.
This video has so much missinfo its not even funny. You need to play a game more to make a review on it.
This game community is peak, i joined a server and theres was 2 shedleskys challenging every killer to a pokémon battle, in the same server ALL survivors was chasing the killer
I feel like your seeing forsaken through the wrong lens by comparing it to survive the killer. Its more like the robloxia until dawn and sonic.exe the disaster. But the problem is it also draws some inspiration from pillar chase 2 which. In sonic.exe the disaster the killer has infinite stamina and is able to catch up to the survivor more easily. To make it fair all the survivors have an abillity and they all are able to cc or stun lock. But pillar chase 2 both monster and survivor have stamina to make up for it survivors get nothing but items and 1 healing item while monsters get good abillities. But mixing them is a problem because if a monster has stamina but is able to be stun locked it kinda becomes to easy for the survivors to win. I agree with everything you said but just saying this because forsaken wasnt supposed to be like survive the killer. Its just a bad mix of three popular games that can be fixed.
@7uffluck imo, they mix abilities and stamina well. It's difficult, sure. But you get stamina back during stuns, and carefully managing your stam like PC2 can really help. I honestly really like that it has that element instead of being able to run infinitely with stuns and movement boosts as I feel it balances all of those things out more.
You cant stun lock though
Soul has never played pc2 before at all but has played it once in a stream night they did not take any inspiration and thought the game needed a lot of fixes
2:40 help i remember being 8-9 and writing 'DO NOT LOG IN ON MARCH 18TH' on a piece of paper and taping it to my wall 😭😭
There's A Really good Game like this also Containing some Urban legends from roblox called "The Robloxia Until dawn" and its great.
This review sucks ass, I’m sorry. I’m not elaborating further either.
Best comment ive seen so far.
John Doe's design is based off an old roblox script that was used to scare kids they perfectly recreated it with their own ideas and got it even down to the text in his intro animation
I agree with this man
now that i think of it, forsaken is basiclly like TR:UD (the robloxian untill dawn) i feel like its inspired by that game, i rly like the designs!
Also, something that i noticed is that, you just get XP as killers by WINNING, so that means is if you killed everyone but 1 survives, you get nothing, while survivors get XP by winning and do tasks, that's is just stupid and makes the killers way worse in my opinion.
Edit: you actually get XP by killing, but it's so small that you don't see a difference and its worse than getting XP as a survivor.
1:21 say it bro no ones gonna hurt u😭😭
I agree with the gameplay feeling off, but this game is based off that sonic exe game right?? and The robloxia until dawn??? I dont think your survive the killer game had much to do with this game.
Yea i expected everything: sonic.exe the disaster, the robloxia until dawn or even the freaking pillar chase 2 BUT SURVIVE THE KILLER?!?! IT HAS EVERYTHING DIFFERENT THEN FORSAKEN!
I want to point out that Forsaken doesn't just take characters from the Roblox Mythos, but characters from Roblox history, horror games, and other communities. For example, Sonic.EXE (2011x) is being added to the game but specifically the one from the game "Sonic.EXE: The Disaster" which is a survival horror game on Roblox. Some other examples include Slenderman, Jeff the Killer, and Jason, all from Escape Area 51 (I'm pretty sure). Some killers that were scrapped (because the owner couldn't get permission to use them) included Blue from Rainbow Friends, the Bear from BEAR, and Figure from DOORS (Figure is an uncertain character, meaning they are unsure if they are being added or not). They are even adding their own original characters and takes on characters such as Two Time (being an OC), a new take on Jane Doe (a NPC), a new take on Guest 666, and The Bomber (a killer that I'm 86.42% sure is based on "Super Bomb Survival").
They are based on SBS
DAMNNNN didnt expect a forsaken video! Only played it a few times and all the point made here were valid 👌
Anyways you should check out critical strike 😈 also here is some late new years money 🎉
Edit: I have fumbled the bag with this one 💀 after playing it more and more, i still do think that the survivors have more advantage then the killer if you dont know what your doing but when you do its hella fun. Knowing that you arnt a complete power house adds an element of fun you dont see from piller chase and etc that i really like
@@neetchibi9058 glaze
Okay, look. Let me clarify something. In this game it takes a form of "be smart, or get outsmarted." Let me explain: Killers, you need to know your weakness and those of your targets, if you play as coolkid, you know that you cannot track down survivors as easily as other killers, so any chase is a nice one, you have a powerful chase built kit that let's you chase a single survivor in oblivion if you use your tools right. However, if you loose a survivor it will be harder to track them down, as you only rely on your henchmen for tracking. 1x1 is very slow in normal chase, but he's a looming dread, seeing every survivor from across the map and able to keep pressure with his ranged attacks across the map, never letting survivors to rest, however if they know what they are doing it is harder to hit your hits but not impossible. And John Doe is an anti juke character, stepping on his tracks applies effect similar to poison, your wall of spikes not only damage but also block the tracks for survivors but not for you. Your traps can lock away key portions of the map, but in chase you need to think smart on your abilitues use, specially the spike walls.
Survivors: Every ability can backfire if used improperly, chance has a chance to backfire even on max stacks, guest gets heavily punished for whiffing, and elliot and egineer are very fragile and easy to kill due to almost no way to escape. Youcan always outrun the killer but if they use their ability right, sooner or later, you will die. Adding 50 seconds to the timer.
its actually around 30 seconds and you cant outrun the killer they are actually faster than you but not by a whole lot
@noooonoooo2010 wrong use of the abilities always slugs the killer, not to mention if they miss completely. Every survivor also has their tools to outpace the killer, be it stuns, boosts, heals, ext. You either outsmart or get outsmarted. Except Jason, Jason is straight up a simple m1 killer, because he almost never slows down and is thr fastest killer in the game makes him a grave threat if he's locked on someone, and you won't get their attention off, that survivor might die from constant chase and pressure alone...
Edit: Also survivors must spot killers before they spot them. Killers constantly use their stamina and survivors walk for quite a while of the match, in other words when 1st chase with survivor begins it's in the survivor's favor if spotted from a far, because killer most likely has 60 or below that amount of stamina.
IM TWEAKING, everyone is hype over forsaken for the myth and hacker characters but i swear to GOD I AINT SEE NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE ROBLOXIA - UNTIL DAWN WHICH DID IT (i think) FIRST
until dawn is great but it pretty much gets outshined by everything due to slow updates and no game progression
Until dawn did it first, but the game just feels lacking idk how to say it
Until dawn did do it first but forsaken has more.. content? It did it in a way that makes it fun and i do love the music in until dawn but both communties both love each game
This game is mostly meant to be survivor sided because killer sided as proved with pillar chase is not fun at all. You have to actually have skill in this game to actively be able to survivor wipe or face off against a seriously good killer. The game is mostly meant to be fun but can be serious at times. The balance and generators are being worked
"i can't kill the survivors immediately so the balancing is bad" ok
I am so happy I've seen this video. I started playing forsaken the day before this video came out. SO happy to see content about it even if it isn't gameplay. happy the game gets some attention.
FORSAKEN MENTIONED!! 🗣
While yes imo the balancing can be tweaked killers are not as bad as people think and can easily lobby wipe 8 people and still have 2 minutes before final stand, It just depends on what killer and how they play. Just use your abilities correctly and be quick. Learn the maps, learn to preserve your stamina, learn to not use Raging Pace as an offensive tool.
I see a common complaint from this video saying “why do killers only have ten more stamina than the survivors” I get it can be annoying sometimes but multiplying the stamina by FOUR is not gonna fix that. And it doesn’t matter because every killer out staminas and out speeds a survivor, just learn to preserve your stamina and you will be fine. It also helps that many killers have ways to counteract that issue you keep bringing up, abilities that can speed you up, abilities that can apply helpless or stun the survivors, abilities that make you lunge forward, abilities that can zone survivors and cut off important choke points. All of these can help you end a chase in no more than 20 seconds.
Another common complaint I see from this video are stuns, or “CC chains” every stun can be whiffed out by just holding A and walking backwards making the survivor be in a terrible position. Theres also a 3 second window where you cant be stunned a second time so the “chain” part confuses me.
Yes survivors are strong but are they so strong to the point killers are “a balancing nightmare?” Absolutely not. My tips are learn to preserve your stamina and use your abilities, dont tunnel a survivor for hella long, and try to kill the biggest threats first (ex: Two Time, Elliot, Builderman)
Just give the game more time and come back, im sure your opinion should change.
this is the worst review ever, it literally boils down to "I'm bad at the game so it sucks". You're literally complaining about being stunned by clearly choreographed attacks that you can dodge with ease, the survivors are not meant to be helpless. sure they are meant to be killed and such but they aren't supposed to be easy to kill. The dispenser isn't useless it slowly heals survivors making it good for when the killer isn't nearby and you have some time to spare. The dispenser is also used as a distraction as the killer will usually go for it and ignore people giving survivors time to run. get good and stop complaining.
FINALLY SOMEONE WOKE UP!!!
For real, this dude sucks at the game he’s telling the viewers “oH My gOd!1! ThIS gAmE suCks beCaUsE I aM baD at It!1!1!” Or something like that. Yeah, you’re bad but it doesn’t mean the game is BAD as a whole. Not the game’s fault that you keep falling for stuns.
His points are heavily exaggerated, this game isn’t incredibly unbalanced, it’s just a bit more survivor sided.
There’s definitely some nerfs that should happen such as Elliot’s pizza, chances gun and limiting the stuns just a little bit. However, we do gotta remember it’s in alpha, the development team are already addressing a lot of issues which is great sign.
well its still on alpha so i dont really mind if the character is kinda bad and theres only a few charat into the game so we could still gave them a chance to improve the game
"playing as killer is incredibly unfun"
meanwhile the Mafioso users serverwiping consistently :
“just shut up and ragequit”
-Mafioso
"your humanoid property has no chance against mine!"
-Mafioso
True!!!!!!!
Maybe its time to rage quit heh? - Mafioso
@maximeleninja4029 as a mafioso user all I can say is that we are soldiers, and soldiers don't go to hell.
@@strawspring9677You probably wont even die, so Hell aint for you
Everyone bulling bedsheet ghost in the most kind way lol
What if the killer was ever so slightly faster than the survivors? That would make the survivors have to use their wits and not just run for the hills
Killer walk slower than survivor but run faster
They...actually do have to think when running.
This guy's review is just bad.
Play the game by yourself
this is the forsaken equivalent to tophat's review on pc2
WAIT WHAT?? NOOOOOOOOO!
I was thinking of creating a game based around the myth’s and cannon Roblox groups 😭😭
It’s so hard to have an original concept nowadays 😭
Oh to go back to the days which you could invent a new word just by writing it and telling everyone “it’s true trust me bro”, back then everything was so gr- oh wait I wouldn’t have rights
they aren’t copyrighted or something what are you worried about? your not going to be hunted down by a wolf pack because you used some myths which so happened to be used in a popular game.
its fine bro you can do it maybe even better i believe in you
unoriginal =/= bad
it all depends on the execution
bro this has been done billions of times
it may not be original in concept, but everything has it’s own charm in some way. just make it unique enough to not be an exact copy and it’s still it’s own thing.
I'm starting to think that this guy just pulled a Tophat King 😭
BEDSHEET UPLOADED EVERYBODY WATCH NOW
why
jk already watched
@@FAshraf-is8gm Cuz he's the goat. SIMPLE.
Too bad the vid was kinda cheeks
The goat? Who? Him? Bedsheet Ghost? Hell no.
7:54 It’s a strange thing, at the same time that the R15 shild be more expressive, the R6 is easyer to animate, and this ends being better to do things like multiplex animation, using R15 can in the end be less expressive because of have leass animations, What is very strange.
You wanna play a horror game like this but with the monster being scarier and more powerful? Play Pillar Chase 2, trust.
@stelioskatsamakis7932 10 bucks he's gonna complain about the games balancing.
@youfailboy1329 It's okay everyone does but we still play it
jason is referenced from the old games in those labs that you can free jason or some other killer, also from survive the whatever games
im sorry, but you genuinely did NOT play this game enough to truly understand how to play it, especially on the killer side
this game exhibits a relatively high skill ceiling compared to other roblox games. you need to learn how to manage stamina, zone survivors, and understand how to utilize each of your abilities to their fullest. this isnt something you get a proper grasp on if you only play the game for a few hours. playing killer WILL seem extraordinarily unfun and unbalanced if you barely know what youre doing.
you also stated that you hadnt played dbd before, which has a very similar play style to that of this game. one difference being that killers have even less in their arsenal than this game, which would seemingly make them more simple. however, people have to spend an absurd amount of time learning how to play killers at their best. theyre able to exemplify how much there is behind each of the killers despite them seeming so simple, same goes for forsaken. despite the game just coming out, people have grinded non stop in order to continuously better themselves. theres a LOT more to these games than first meets the eye (such as strategy and mind games) and it takes a lot of practice to genuinely understand.
while making the game slightly survivor sided, i believe that the introduction of survivor abilities adds unbelievable amounts of depth to this game. most of the games in genre are entirely focused on either being better as the killer or playing against the killer. this game provides the opportunity to also better yourself as survivor by learning how to maximize your abilities in both chase and support. creating a system where playing survivor is just as fun and interesting as killer has easily made forsaken my new favorite asymmetrical horror game.
I hope he read this cuz this actually contradicts everything he says and makes sense.
7:26 TWO TIME LOOKS LIKE TIMO (divided) HELPP
Robloxia until dawn rn: 😭
Pillar chase rn: 💀
Fr fr R:UD is better cuz of lore and gameplay itself
@@D0zerf0rn0w TRUD is a reskin of TD and that gets boring real fast..
Man that's true. Gonna add one more
Sonic.exe the disaster after watching this vid:🥶🥶🥶
@RCMhere wait what?
@RCMhere what it's TD?
I aint gonna lie, it would be awesome if there was a story, just swapping between different killers and survivors, (literally EVERYONE!) and you can choose who survives, literally just a “select your character” and that one specific killer or survivor lives, and based on who you choose, the ending changes. Wouldn’t that be cool?
9:06 made me cry
i think bedsheet wants this game to be hide and seek on roblox
HELPPPP, 400 STAMINA??? HOW IS ANYONE GONNA ESCAPE THAT??
@@SodaSizzle plus the dmg and speed buff
Sonic the disasters have the same gameplay too, you should talk about it since they put it to a unique twist, different than forsaken and came out way earlier.
I HATE 1x1x1x1
All my homies HATE 1x1x1x1
Honesty I had a lot of problems playing the game… like the monster is waaaaay to fast it should be the survivors that are faster and the monsters have abilities to keep up and don’t get me started on the stunning and nerds looping but it has great graphics just needs some tweaks on the gameplay tbh
He didnt mention TR:UD bruh
for me forsaken is my favorite escape the killer type game because it provides a new experience of being able to do something as the survivor and for me it provides for connection between the players
Bro is not cooking… and I feel like you missed the part where it’s in early alpha, It released 2 Weeks Ago!
The usual "game is in alpha so all your complaints don’t matter" argument
still no deepwoken vid
It inspire of The robloxia until dawn. But it amazing
Even though the robloxia until dawn is inspire for exe disaster
I definitely would have made a TRUD video, but this felt like a cooler version of TRUD imo
@Best07ever from what i know, forsaken is not inspired by trud
@@BedsheetGhost_ as a representative of the TR:UD community, pls make a video about the game we are nearly dead. We have 1/2 the players of phighting. We need help
Trud is so much better in my opinion
11:32 That ability is more of a lunge. Yes, you’re slower when using it. But (potentially) if you use it after both you and a survivor use their stamina. You move faster, know where they are. And get a lunge on your next attack to catch up.
5:19 AN ULTRAKILL ROBLOX CHARACTER!
@@Ultracultchaosultimate I almost thought it was me because I was playing a few days ago with that avatar :,}
MACHINE!?
theres two ultrakill skins
a v1 for guest 1337 and v2 for chance
(might be other way around)
@ignoreme-ck2iw PERFECT
V1 skin for guest 1337
How to obtain? Do an [+PARRY]
block and right after land a punch on the killer,easy!
V2 skin for chance
How to obtain: flip the coin when you have 2 charges. If you get 3, shoot the killer in under 10 seconds.
I would comment about how this video didn't give Forsaken justice and how this review is horrible, but there is already like a thousand comments regarding this, so I won't bother. I know he praised certain parts about the game, but everything he criticized just straight up makes no sense, it just sounds like he has a grudge about everything gameplay wise.
BABY TWO TIME SHOULD GET BUFFED 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
@@thechorri2198 wdym its already s tier?
Fun fact: blue from rainbow friends was going to be added, but since one of the dev heard that they normally the devs from rainbow friends normally didn't give permision to anyone to use his charaters he decided to not even ask
I recently started playing forsaken, and let me say my first reaction was "this is offbrand trud!" Then "OMG THIS IS AMAZING"
SAME I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A COPY OF TRUD 😭😭😭 (cool kid has a trud skin)
@helloflorian lol
@helloflorian the fact is I've only played trud once
@@skratte oh I’m like a giant fan
happy to see you finally got the recognition you deserve after all these years of watching, road to 250k
Please try trud and come back to this, cc chaining there is like the entire gameplay
does bro want him dead?
Jason is from survive the killer in area 51 wich is a very old game
his starting animation is also literally him opening a area 51 door
What a weird and strict game
Collect my forsakens
Hold E a million times to be Forsaken’d 😈😈😈
Kill 8 forsakens (0/8)
7:12 Huuuuuuuuuuum, for be honest, i think that we shold remember him in some way, but i don’t think that make him a carecter is odd, it is… his avatar, idk, i am just a really fan of him.
You should try out Daybreak 2, it's also an assymetrical survival game but has existed on Roblox way longer.
Daybreak has a lot of really cool creativity to its characters and maps, but survivor bullying (or, when every survivor comes together to stun you while also looping you on hard tiles) is as wild in that game as it is in DBD
dude has never played survive and kill the killers in area 51 😭
also there is lore, just not big, a part of the lore is that c00lkidd is just a 10 years old kid who thinks the survivors he kills just takes a nap.
he also have unique voicelines against 7n7, his father in this game
(apologize in advance for this long winded comment bro don't take this too seriously 😭)
I don't agree actually, and I think this was a miss of a video. Some of the criticisms you bring up with the game don't sit right with me, and there were some things that you missed which I figured I'd go over.
There were really only 2 things you missed:
1. Jason is here because he's from a Roblox game called "Survive the Killers in Area 51" ( ironic. ) Both the Area 51 Jason and Forsaken Jason have the same look. Future characters will also come from other Roblox games / communities, such as Jeff The Killer from, you guessed it, Survive the Killers in Area 51. That and Slenderman from "Stop it Slender!".
2. Chance and Two-Time are OCs from the developers of Forsaken, which was probably the reason you didn't recognize them. Chance also doesn't just have gun, he's a luck-based survivor. Apparently, he's also some sort of metaphor for the inside trading within the Roblox community ( nabbed from a comment ). Two-Time gets two times to live, though is currently not that great. (praise the upcoming two-time rework 🙏)
In my experience, killers CAN feel both powerful, and threatening. Both to play as, and to go against. You just have to get used to the swing of things. Though, with that being said, I feel like the main issue with Forsaken is getting into the swing of things, because it feels like a struggle. I've sunken like, 10 hours overall into this game and I still cannot get into the rhythm of this game. Nor the hitboxes of this game either. (Skill issue on my part lowkey but shhh...) I'm sure that half of your problems would be solved if you sunk enough time into the game though.
Also saying it'd be a non-issue if survivors were just as helpless is insane, I can't even lie. They have abilities because if they didn't, I'm pretty sure every experienced killer would be licking their lips like that one Sonic looking guy gif bro 😭
I think the only points I can really agree with, are Jasons ult, as well as it feeling like a game of cat and mouse (excluding the bigger mouse in a wheelchair part).
Elsewise, I don't think most of these other issues you have with the game are really that valid. Making the killers that much more threatening then they already are by quadrupling stamina, and making them deal significantly more damage is just overkill, despite the chain stuns. I just think the issue is learning how to use them. Yes, killers could do with some tweaks, but overall I don't think they're bad to play as, and are pretty powerful as they are already. You just might need to get into the swing of things.
If you want a game where you can easily shred through survivors go play pillar chase or something, because the vibe you give talking about giving the killers 4x more stamina, or significantly more damage just feels like you want to play as an overpowered monster.
There's already a guide on this game made by Vee if you want some tips and tricks on how to play killers, or even survivors. The game also has an Official Discord server, so you may want to join that for any questions regarding the game, or updates.
I’ve never played it but legit looks so fun
It is pretty fun when you play enough :3
I love the teamwork aspect on the survivor's side
From my experience, the games just kinda… slow and unengaging? Like, it’s got cool as hell art and design choices but if I’m looking for gameplay, there’s no reason I’d choose Forsaken over something like Daybreak, Pillar Chase, or Trepidation in the DBD like genre. Like you said, it’s mostly hobbling around a map until a chase happens, the fun part of basically every game in this genre. The games might not be for me in its current state, but hopefully with some revamps I’ll be able to enjoy it more.
it’s till depressing that people don’t know who john shedletsky
Now, I do think that the killer CAN be good in the right hands, but I will say the issues with each killer that are quite bad. Jason NEEDS to be breath on someone to get use out of his abilities. C00lkidd’s walkspeed override is literally a free escape for the survivors if you miss, plus his projectile doesn’t aim properly on mobile. John Doe’s abilities make him stand still, which results in them being quite meh if not used at the right time and place (not the biggest of an issue tbh), but the greatest offender is 1x1x1x1. His ULTIMATE ABILITY IS UNUSABLE ON MOBILE. The button if offscreen and basically unpressable.
Video idea: Grass Cutting Incremental
This game is super good ive been playing alot and i have chance the survivor and john doe as the killer
This is like that one pillar chase 2 review video
Great review, but flaws wise, what you basically said just screams out "screw the other players playing i just wanna have the chance to murder everyone in a whim"
Coming from a player that just started playing Forsaken (aswell the killer genre), I think Forsaken has great gameplay and not over the board balancing. You may find playing as the Killer for the first time "hard" or "frustrating" against already experienced players, thats because you must employ tactics and develop a sense of pattern in order to bait/lure them to their most vurnerable position. Running straight at Guest 1337 or Shedletsky or hell, any of the other survivors will open you to lots of counters, your stamina is barely above the Survivor's because you have an advantage in Spriniting speed and you'll most likely catch up to them if you manage your stamina well.
You as both the killer and the survivor must develop a strategy to gain an advantage in order to the WIN the game, getting juked as the killer means you're not focusing or you're trying to strike them at a predictable pace. The skill floor and ceiling gap is extremely large even if it doesn't seem like it.
i definitely see flaws in this game, considering as it just released, but its honestly one of my favorite games already. the way it integrates myths and references to older roblox makes it so fun to get into