My dad was an old school dozer operator for eagle pitcher minerals from mid 70s until around 2005, i showed him this video and he said he should've dropped the blade and pushed up a big pile of dirt
@@sohailmethani1058 for starters the new ones are mostly electronic..not to mention they use DEF..You cannot "shade tree mechanic" the new ones..you can the older ones
This is how machines should run, a full pull and it could even take it home, Thanks Moss Rods for showing me and letting me appreciate this fine machinery, keep them coming
Absolutely right,pal! Quite another thing than that stupid Chevy frippery!!! It's not revolutions and spinning,but the MASS,that counts.And Diesel "underpower".Diesel will immediately suffocate petrol underpower in low revs.
Caterpillar 941b. You're absolutely right. Hydraulics have nothing to do with it. That particular machine has a 1500 ci slow running engine (1600 rpm no load). It's not the horsepower it creates ( a 300hp). It's the sheer torque of big cubes and wonderful engineering. Noone; and I mean no one does it like CAT
Hi, Folks. Neat video and thanks to Moss Rods for sharing. I don't know how many other people noticed it but that D8 was getting close to its maximum pull with that sled load. If you look closely, you can see that, once the full weight came on, the front of the tracks are not immediately getting right down on the ground until about the mid-point of the tracks. This means that it's getting close to its maximum pull. If it had not had the blade on, it may not have done as well and there certainly would have been more track slip, That said though, 60,000# is a pretty good pull for that model of D8H, which I suspect is one of the early 235 HP ones and not the later 270 HP version. Just my 0.02. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Hi, Rpbert. I doubt changing the ripper height would have made any difference as the sled appears to be attached to the tractor drawbar underneath and ahead of the ripper. That said though, it is unusual to see that style of ripper on that model of D8. I was mistaken the first time I looked at this video as I thought it was an early D8H with 235 horsepower but, on second look, it is one of the later D8Hs at 270 hp. Just. my 0.02. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Here in the UK my father used to grow potatoes for a frozen potato chip manufacturer. In winter with very wet clay soil they used to pull the big harvesters with wheeled tractors providing power to the harvester and a caterpillar tractor in tandem providing the ground speed regardless of conditions as the factory needed the potatoes to arrive at a constant speed. Then at the end they put the blade back on and level the field. It was just brutal but effective application of power to get the job done. No contest there in that video pull as the caterpillar tracks just dig in until they get traction.
If you haven't seen the videos, I highly recommend searching "yellowstone snow plowing" on youtube. I live close to Yellowstone National Park and in the spring the snow gets so compacted from snow groomers that they need to break it up by hooking a road grader with a v plow to a pair of cat dozers. Essentially making it a draft and plow team.
@@easternlandclearing10 neat, I have a 1962 B61 with the 711 diesel and a quadruplex. Was used to move equipment, pulled a Cat D8 once. Naturally aspirated
the biggest tracked whells cat is 160.000kg that is 350.000 pounds, however on mountain i saw a monster 100.000 pounds snowcat, caterpillars are beasts
near aosta(italy) i saw two snowplow in truble pushing a giant mountain of snow, than a giant 6 meter 20 feet large snowcat arrives, it pushed that snow as i push an empty shopping cart, than it return up the mountain on the black sky slope, i had only a word RESPECT, caterpillars are beasts
Lewie McNeely I agree with this comment. This idiot had the dozer in second gear. That’s fine when pushing dirt but if you are loaded to the gill like that, keep it in first. That motor would not have bogged down at all
It was a powershift and probably had it in 3rd, trying for speed??? . The pan skinners just took a 3 or 4 inch cut so we could keep on moving at a good clip and keep the boss happy too. Then pop #3 and send them on down the haul road grinning. Good job years ago. Had a lot of fun and got to listen to the 8 and 631's bellow! Not like the HISSS of today's stuff.
That's a pitiful deal. I ran an old 8-H with a set of rippers on a dam job pushing pans. I know blamed well that sled is nothing next to push loading a 631 pan in hard clay. Those pans were over 8 feet wide, closer to ten the way they looked and they were cutting all across the moldboard. He should've been able to push a blade and pull that sled in half if he'd had any grousers on those track pads. But it would've been in #2 or 1 with me, not 3.
bottom line, this video made it seem like a d8 struggled with this bullshit load. If ran properly, that d8 would pull double that weight through the dirt. These dozers don't struggle in rpm with any weight. They lose traction. You cant stop these dozers gearing in first gear at all. I used to do plenty of slot dozing. And if any one doesn't know about slot dozing and weight transfer, google it. You cant stop these dozers at all with pulling dead weight. especially a measley 60k pound dead weight. That is absolutely nothing at all. That's a walk in the park
Just a curious question. How would a TD-24 IH or TD-25 IH.handle this? My Dad owned 1, it was the old Gasoline/ Diesel. he had it when he was Hanging Structural Steel.. .
@@smckinney3mckinney141 I don't know torque numbers but the first year TD 25 was rated at 235 HP, just ahead of that years D8H which was rated at 230 HP. The late 241 series TD 24s were rated lower, except on the Nebraska test the late TD 24 made almost identical drawbar hp as the D8H, same year. The first year TD 25 made quite a bit more drawbar hp than the early D8H. The later D8H had a couple of boosts to output. My father owned 4 TD24s. He sold his business in 65 then ran a 63 D8H for his brother-in-law. He said the IH24 and the D8h pretty similar for capability. His 24s were gear drive, the 8 Powershift. He liked the planetary steering of the International and the Powershift on the 8.
at one point, I thought he might even bump the throttle up off idle
Gotta keep the crowd on the edge of their seats.
That is near full throttle
Watching this powerful old machine pulling that slow but not stopping makes me grin from ear to ear
My dad was an old school dozer operator for eagle pitcher minerals from mid 70s until around 2005, i showed him this video and he said he should've dropped the blade and pushed up a big pile of dirt
I love how you hear the engine load slowly and surely change, but it just keeps its pace.
And thats why CAT is number one,especially the older ones..Qhen everything else is broke down the old cats are still working
Right OLD CATS
@Kathleen Shaw I had a D9G with a KG blade. It would push the 4"x8" stinger right through the middle of a big oak tree and split it.
Why are the newer ones not good and the old ones then?
@@sohailmethani1058 for starters the new ones are mostly electronic..not to mention they use DEF..You cannot "shade tree mechanic" the new ones..you can the older ones
@@rhysdaniels1014 any new machine over 75 horse uses def 🤦🤦
This is how machines should run, a full pull and it could even take it home, Thanks Moss Rods for showing me and letting me appreciate this fine machinery, keep them coming
Operated a D7 and a D9 while in the army. Loved it. So much power. Especially that D9. You don’t want to get in the way of that thing.
do you know if this is a 7 8 9 or 10?
That old Cat is a beast. Probably cold have dropped the blade And pushed dirt as he pulled that.
Put it 1st and it could have EASILY!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhsome..............dude.
and the ripper XD XD XD. old cat dozers are unstoppable.
I've pushed a lot of dirt while pulling a turn of logs.
LoL 🤣
I operated a D7 in a logging operation in Australia (where I live) and I could have told you how this was going to turn out ! Weight and torque!!
& ground contact!
Ladies and gentlemen, that's the importance of mass, gearing, and operating range.
Absolutely right,pal! Quite another thing than that stupid Chevy frippery!!! It's not revolutions and spinning,but the MASS,that counts.And Diesel "underpower".Diesel will immediately suffocate petrol underpower in low revs.
Honestly right here I believe there's only two factors and that is Mass and the power of hydraulics
Caterpillar 941b. You're absolutely right. Hydraulics have nothing to do with it. That particular machine has a 1500 ci slow running engine (1600 rpm no load). It's not the horsepower it creates ( a 300hp). It's the sheer torque of big cubes and wonderful engineering. Noone; and I mean no one does it like CAT
Dolan Roufs nothing to do with cubics. It is simply gear, or hydraulically reduced speeds to increase torque, with mass to obtain traction
@@shandfan tell that to a gas powered Sherman tank that made 1,200 ftlbs of torque right off of idle
no flames or black smoke coming out of that cat....just another day for it.
Pull? What pull?
*cat turns around at the end... Who hooked a trailer up to my bumper?
Cat to sledge, that all you got ?
Love it
Sled ; you gonna stop.
Cat ; nope need waffles brats and a beer.
New townhouse tenant: "How often do they have these tractor pulls?"
Property manager: "So often, you won't even notice."
A+ for the Blues Brothers reference.
LOL
@@therepairshop6629 😉
Hi, Folks.
Neat video and thanks to Moss Rods for sharing.
I don't know how many other people noticed it but that D8 was getting close to its maximum pull with that sled load. If you look closely, you can see that, once the full weight came on, the front of the tracks are not immediately getting right down on the ground until about the mid-point of the tracks. This means that it's getting close to its maximum pull. If it had not had the blade on, it may not have done as well and there certainly would have been more track slip,
That said though, 60,000# is a pretty good pull for that model of D8H, which I suspect is one of the early 235 HP ones and not the later 270 HP version.
Just my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Hi, Rpbert.
I doubt changing the ripper height would have made any difference as the sled appears to be attached to the tractor drawbar underneath and ahead of the ripper. That said though, it is unusual to see that style of ripper on that model of D8.
I was mistaken the first time I looked at this video as I thought it was an early D8H with 235 horsepower but, on second look, it is one of the later D8Hs at 270 hp.
Just. my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Best straight six ever made for a dozer
it's slow but it ain't gonna stop
astafzciba dam right
astafzciba 'Specialy in super-low !!
He will when he runs out of gas. That's about it tho
Here in the UK my father used to grow potatoes for a frozen potato chip manufacturer. In winter with very wet clay soil they used to pull the big harvesters with wheeled tractors providing power to the harvester and a caterpillar tractor in tandem providing the ground speed regardless of conditions as the factory needed the potatoes to arrive at a constant speed. Then at the end they put the blade back on and level the field. It was just brutal but effective application of power to get the job done.
No contest there in that video pull as the caterpillar tracks just dig in until they get traction.
If you haven't seen the videos, I highly recommend searching "yellowstone snow plowing" on youtube. I live close to Yellowstone National Park and in the spring the snow gets so compacted from snow groomers that they need to break it up by hooking a road grader with a v plow to a pair of cat dozers. Essentially making it a draft and plow team.
@@MossRods Thanks I just had a watch.
This is why road construction never gets done
He should have gone ahead and taken it home with him!
That's right
with telophone poles too
NOTHING RUNS LIKE A CAT 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
It didn't even break a sweat. Diesel power!!!!
You can't beat those old Cat's. New ones have more horsepower but the old iron was made to push. I miss running those machines.
Who else thinks this started with "I bet my truck will out pull your dozer"
TmAn0517 Yep
And then "Hold my beer"!
Actually it was rated at 270 Hp and weighed around 75000 lbs.
Are those apartments right there? "Honey do you feel that?" "Yeah its just the crazy neighbor with his bulldozer again"
D8 dozer, can you believe that's not even the biggest that cat makes? D11s are one big bad asses.
I would absolutely hate living in an apartment, but those ones would have a decent view
Даже дыма не пустил и не потерял мощности! Одним словом made in USA!💪👍👍👍
A man and his dozer is a beautiful thing. 👍
And.after.day
7."God. Creatd.a.Catterpliller.D
8.
When you spend 200k on a 3000hp vehicle and a 300hp tractor beats you lol
Well what did anybody think was gonna happen
Love those Dozers, Cat power!
Imagine if he throttled up.
He was, those ol girls run looooow rpm. The really old cats made max torque around 700 rpm.. lol
Chris Thornton That vintage cat most likely has a 343 engine. Max rpm about 1800. I ran mine at 1350 cruising speed.
@@theeasternfront6436 that's why I said really old
Chris Thornton Do know what models?
@@theeasternfront6436 rd6
It’s a D8H so is actually only 270 hp … which tells you even more about multiplied torque mated to massive traction.
Low RPM , No smoke , Can't mess with a CAT !!!
That thing was like, dead or alive your coming with me.
you`re*
Dozer says what else did you expect I'm made to pull extreme loads. Just another day on the job no sweat 💪💪
They aren’t built for speed, but for the amount of constant, reliable torque over long periods of work time.
Cat: you are mine now, you are coming home with me.
Caterpillar never backs down
Ain’t nothing but another days work for that good ole D8
Nice B model there
@@T_Schnydz thanks it’s has a 673 turbo, quadruplex and three speed brownie
I got three more
@@easternlandclearing10 neat, I have a 1962 B61 with the 711 diesel and a quadruplex. Was used to move equipment, pulled a Cat D8 once. Naturally aspirated
@@T_Schnydz That’s awesome glad to see other people keeping these old dogs in service.
Older Cats had great power
Hmm... So to win a tractor pull just show up with a dozer. Cool
PLEASE ... he could have dropped the RIPPER an still pulled the sled home! no black smoke? .. its not working that hard!
He was conserving his clutch for the drag race which is next
the biggest tracked whells cat is 160.000kg that is 350.000 pounds, however on mountain i saw a monster 100.000 pounds snowcat, caterpillars are beasts
I love how there's apartment buildings right next to the track
He's about to make a couple lefts and loop around the bleachers to get the sled back to the starting line
God i love cat dozers.
When all else fails,
CATERPILLAR!!
Tractor is a beast
Great video
That is what inevitability looks like!
And who said you need 1000hp
Give it up for the big cat ! Cat diesel power !
A D8 is a smaller size for a CAT. What till a D9H or a D11T shows up. Either of them would pull that sled in high gear.
The rubber tire Farm tractor would have STOPPED way way back, good job CAT you are a real kill dozer. Great great power wonderful machines.
Takes weight to pull weight. Nice show
Ol' dozer didnt even strain...lol...just another day at work for her..lol
love watching the sled lose to POWER
I own 2 1/2. Td9 td12 and a td 14 142. The 12 needs lots of help. But has good rebuilt engine.
Oh there’s a sled behind me? Didn’t know. CAT👈
Nice little 8h there. let's see a bunch of old cable 9s daisy chained together...may as well hook a few of them sleds together.
OLd D8H.Closer to 70,000 lbs this weighs
Cat diesel power at work
Hes bringing that sled home with him....
All falls back on physics. The more the weight slides fowards on the sled. It levels the dozer out for more traction
Damn awesome I'm sitting on a d11t 850hrse I'll pull both of those👍
near aosta(italy) i saw two snowplow in truble pushing a giant mountain of snow, than a giant 6 meter 20 feet large snowcat arrives, it pushed that snow as i push an empty shopping cart, than it return up the mountain on the black sky slope, i had only a word RESPECT, caterpillars are beasts
Impressive. @1:08 watch the weight on the sled move backwards.
Looked like it was in #2 notch. I used to push 631 Cat pans with an 8-H and that sled is NOTHING to trying to load a pan in hard ground!
Lewie McNeely I agree with this comment. This idiot had the dozer in second gear. That’s fine when pushing dirt but if you are loaded to the gill like that, keep it in first. That motor would not have bogged down at all
It was a powershift and probably had it in 3rd, trying for speed??? . The pan skinners just took a 3 or 4 inch cut so we could keep on moving at a good clip and keep the boss happy too. Then pop #3 and send them on down the haul road grinning. Good job years ago. Had a lot of fun and got to listen to the 8 and 631's bellow! Not like the HISSS of today's stuff.
Lewie McNeely The sled had him. The box was stopped so it never topped out and the push down never went off. They let him go out.
That's a pitiful deal. I ran an old 8-H with a set of rippers on a dam job pushing pans. I know blamed well that sled is nothing next to push loading a 631 pan in hard clay. Those pans were over 8 feet wide, closer to ten the way they looked and they were cutting all across the moldboard. He should've been able to push a blade and pull that sled in half if he'd had any grousers on those track pads. But it would've been in #2 or 1 with me, not 3.
bottom line, this video made it seem like a d8 struggled with this bullshit load. If ran properly, that d8 would pull double that weight through the dirt. These dozers don't struggle in rpm with any weight. They lose traction. You cant stop these dozers gearing in first gear at all. I used to do plenty of slot dozing. And if any one doesn't know about slot dozing and weight transfer, google it. You cant stop these dozers at all with pulling dead weight. especially a measley 60k pound dead weight. That is absolutely nothing at all. That's a walk in the park
Old school CAT power
Nothing pulls like a cat
Old terex's would pull both of them. Those detroit 12v71 two strokes were stout. Besides going deaf..I liked the quick shift transmission.
Except another Cat.
@@jimmychanbers2424 terexes cat?
Except Cummins or Mack
Jimmy Chanbers they really don’t make power you would be better off with a 4 stroke v8 big power or a silver 892
Power × torque @ weight~traction= full pull. Cat😍
Just doing what it was meant to do !
AMERICA! I want to go to a pull this year . I have great hope.
Just a curious question. How would a TD-24 IH or TD-25 IH.handle this? My Dad owned 1, it was the old Gasoline/ Diesel. he had it when he was Hanging Structural Steel.. .
Same outcome as the D8 with either of those big IH machines.
@@glenbreaks5448 Thank You Glen. just out of curiosity how much
H.P. & Torque did the TD 24/ TD 25 Engines produce, would you know??
@@smckinney3mckinney141
I don't know torque numbers but the first year TD 25 was rated at 235 HP, just ahead of that years D8H which was rated at 230 HP.
The late 241 series TD 24s were rated lower, except on the Nebraska test the late TD 24 made almost identical drawbar hp as the D8H, same year.
The first year TD 25 made quite a bit more drawbar hp than the early D8H.
The later D8H had a couple of boosts to output.
My father owned 4 TD24s. He sold his business in 65 then ran a 63 D8H for his brother-in-law.
He said the IH24 and the D8h pretty similar for capability. His 24s were gear drive, the 8 Powershift.
He liked the planetary steering of the International and the Powershift on the 8.
Is that a apartment complex back there lol
CAT 💪👍
Full Pull ? It takes a heavy weight to handle heavy weight
Tell that sled Bye Felicia !
Now that is true American Muscle
Sooo, if you were there, would you be chanting, “drop the blade, drop the blade” :D
Crawlers tractors don't stop are mostly powerful
Yes....the CAT doesnt stop,but the Komatsu'even pushes through to a still more extent.Komatsu is a big competitor to Cat.
As someone who used to haul these things around, I know that it doesn't weigh anything close to 80,000 lbs.
Good but obviously tracks have more traction than tires... Plus I believe tractors are weight limited?
Good old dozer right there. She’ll push anything pretty much. Is that an old D8 or 9? Love the old Pac-Man Cat symbol on the side. Thanks for sharing
Full pull!
What sled
A dozer half that size would pull that sled, you cant compare steel tracks and tractor tires.
It's all about drawbar horsepower or what power you can get to the ground.
Not surprised. That's what it was built to do every day.
That’s the difference between gear driven dozers and hydrostatic
Is this one hydro static
Cat hydrostatic drives pull & push well too..
This one has a torque converter drive not a hy-stat.
Bet that's the flatest track in the usa , would love to be the next puller after that track got plowed lmfao
Um tanque disfarçado de trator, só isso.
As if a pulling contest is going to make a dent in the performance of a machine made to push tons of earth around for fun.
itìs a small caterpillar 80.000 pounds are 35.000kg, there are model of 130.000 and 160.000 and 185.000 kg
Insane that thing could pull the earth hooked up right
A Biest! Diesel power
Yeah!!! Caterpillar wins!
Lol was the dozer just on idle?
That was exciting
You mainly see big dozers in mines but i wanna see a D11 or D575 KOM pushing a big tree or stumps.
Hold my do, I can beer this!
Did you say CAT POWER?
Yeah
Yup! A cool cat ain't stoppin' !!