This Liquid Piston engine revs to 15k rpm and can make over 1000HP

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  • @NSResponder
    @NSResponder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    If you use this as the generator on a hybrid car, always running it in its optimal power band, you have a huge improvement over the small piston engines used today in cars like the Prius. Knock hundreds of pounds out of the gross weight, and free up a lot of internal space in the car.

    • @johnhufnagel
      @johnhufnagel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I was also thinking, the design seems like it'll have an optimum RPM range, so projects where that's true would be the best choice. generators are one, and possibly airplane engines using variable pitch blades to control thrust is another.

    • @kekethetoad
      @kekethetoad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Perfect match for CVT cars then

    • @johnhufnagel
      @johnhufnagel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@kekethetoad potentially. However my opinion of CVT transmissions is fairly low, predominantly because manufacturers are specifying horrific maintenance intervals which is causing them to fail rather early in their life cycle.

    • @Takon_pilot
      @Takon_pilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kekethetoad *cough cough* nissan *cough cough*

    • @kenshinhimura9387
      @kenshinhimura9387 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's just another shitty rotary engine that will be very unreliable and leak/burn oil. Won't last long.

  • @craigford4641
    @craigford4641 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This motor appears to be a perfect replacement for current motorcycle engines ! The size and weight makes it perfect for motorcycle design !

    • @DamianHallbauer
      @DamianHallbauer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes and ebikes.. the energy density of the battery is why they are terrible. downscaled it could be like have 2000 watts with far less weight. although that presents challenges the whole tear drop shape ultra efficient 3 wheel vehicle starts to make sense, as well as in robotics where batteries and vibrating piston engines cant work. the only power source for an android robot is reserved for small space proves and wont be let out into the general population even ithey they had enough of it. why question how loud is it.. how do 4 small rotors stak. i would guess they scale by adding more units..

  • @Denver1976Man
    @Denver1976Man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I have seen this before. Hasn't really seemed to have gone anywhere, but I loved the concept.

    • @ralphsmith8350
      @ralphsmith8350 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You could have said the same of the piston internal combustion engine at some point.

  • @Jupiterider1
    @Jupiterider1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’m always a fan of new and viable ICE designs. I’m such a believer of Liquid Piston that I just invested into the company. Let’s see those contracts come in!

    • @stevehayward1854
      @stevehayward1854 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh dear, I hope you didnt invest too much

    • @unsafe_at_any_speed
      @unsafe_at_any_speed ปีที่แล้ว

      The WEF crowd will squash this technology. It doesn't fit their plan for our future.

    • @some_doofus
      @some_doofus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevehayward1854 why do you say that?

  • @andrewfalenski6583
    @andrewfalenski6583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Their next technology demonstrator should be at least a dual-rotor 500hp engine that runs on diesel fuel. This would put it in the class of semi-tractor/trailer over the road transportation. It would also be able to show usable fuel mileage numbers.

    • @Wa1200-6
      @Wa1200-6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      would be great but hard to imagine with how good common rail motors are, be hard to compete

  • @AllAmericanBeaner68
    @AllAmericanBeaner68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Loving the innovation and am interested in seeing further iterations!

  • @PeteTheL337
    @PeteTheL337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Anything that can keep the ICE motor alive. I really do not want to switch to EV. I want my engine sound and my manual gearbox.

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There can be EVs with manual gearboxes but it's kinda pointless

    • @crash5811
      @crash5811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dont 4get the character of the individual engines. The less efficient it is the more character it has, the more skill it requires to go fast and stay consistent

    • @johnburns4017
      @johnburns4017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How sad.
      Polluting engines need phasing out.

    • @PeteTheL337
      @PeteTheL337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@johnburns4017 Good thing then that my car on doesn't pollute as much as a medium to big EV.

    • @johnburns4017
      @johnburns4017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@PeteTheL337
      You are deluded.

  • @iwantmypot
    @iwantmypot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This one looks to be better than the Wenkel because the seals don't pass over the gaps for the spark plugs. If the RPM in a Wenkel engine gets high enough the spark plug recession can allow burning fuel from a previous cycle to pass into the next cycle early and cause backfiring. (As seen in one of Rob Dahm's recent videos)
    In addition, this engine block won't be unevenly heated like a Wenkel is. (Though this one's rotor will be unevenly heated, whereas the Wenkel rotor is evenly heated.)

    • @tobysatriayudha4564
      @tobysatriayudha4564 ปีที่แล้ว

      can be solved with port injection maybe? The fuel will cools the rotor a bit

    • @redcrafterlppa303
      @redcrafterlppa303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tobysatriayudha4564 the idea is that the intake air flows through the hot side of the rotor and cools it. There are even cooling fins inside the intake channels to improve rotor cooling.

    • @tobysatriayudha4564
      @tobysatriayudha4564 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redcrafterlppa303 aaaah, that makes sense

  • @kentremendous5112
    @kentremendous5112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I would love to see this engine come to market, but I am very afraid it won’t.

    • @Davoodoox1
      @Davoodoox1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are very correct. This will not succeed anywhere.

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Davoodoox1 that's what they said about the first piston engines.

  • @lohikarhu734
    @lohikarhu734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Funny, it does look more like a 2-stroke engine, with the ports in the "piston" instead of the cylinder... I didn't quite get the idea about how the seals work, or are made to last...maybe they just burn oil, or use the fuel as a hydrodynamic seal...I dunno..

    • @tobysatriayudha4564
      @tobysatriayudha4564 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same with wankel maybe? but it fixed on the chamber rather on the rotor, and you can run oil trough the slit in the seal mount. So, better seal durability, and less oil burned. Just my thought.

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe they have the same seals that are used with the wankel engine, but flipped and used the opposite way?

    • @jlo13800
      @jlo13800 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes the XTS 210 is the 2 stroke rotary.

    • @ItsNova816
      @ItsNova816 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're fixed apex seals, so it's easier to keep them lubricated without burning oil.

    • @yogiguitar1
      @yogiguitar1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe they use pre mix or an oil inj system. ? id love to see a 2 stroke version and i think they do have one.

  • @leonmunro7659
    @leonmunro7659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    With three combustion cycles per revolution, what would be the fuel efficiency? Additionally, if it's humming along at 15,000 RPM within its maximum power band to produce 5HP, what would be the equivalent fuel consumption per HP against a standard 5HP ICE?

  • @NSResponder
    @NSResponder ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With its exceptional power/weight and power to frontal area ratio, this engine would also be ideal for aircraft. Picture a King Air with only 1/3 of the weight of its current horizontal-opposed piston engines, and nacelles that can be far more streamlined.

    • @jackt6112
      @jackt6112 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Picture a King Air with only 1/3 of the weight of its current horizontal-opposed piston engines, and nacelles that can be far more streamlined."
      You are in luck! Today, you can actually take a picture of a King Air with 1/3 of the weight of horizontal-opposed piston engines with nacelles that are streamlined. at any airport with a King Air, and see them with their original pair of Pratt & Whitney PT6 turboprop engines. (tic)

  • @CynHicks
    @CynHicks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's taken them a while to have an actual demo. I remember when it was just in the modeling stage. If the seal lubrication system actually works well this one may actually find some success.

  • @Jarmezrocks
    @Jarmezrocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Because it does 3 combustion cycles per revolution, it sounds like a 20B rotary! And that's pretty awesome cause I think the 20B is the best sounding production Wankel rotary engine!

    • @kentonian
      @kentonian ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s 1 and a 3rd per rotation

  • @johnnysmith64
    @johnnysmith64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Only problem I can think of is the centripetal force from the extreme RPMs might cause the material to destroy itself but maybe not, would be interesting to find out

    • @andyman8630
      @andyman8630 ปีที่แล้ว

      considering the 'rotor' is housed, it would be the housing itself which takes the load moreso than the rotor

    • @WorldEngine64
      @WorldEngine64 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the f1 2004 engines could rev to 19000rpm with a 3.5L engine and it didnt explode

  • @NSResponder
    @NSResponder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LP is selling evaluation units right now for around $30K to OEM investigating product development. The model they're selling develops three horsepower and weighs four pounds.

  • @chrisbraid2907
    @chrisbraid2907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting little Engine, maybe this was what Felix should have made. If it can be enlarged and developed in this EV age, I’d be interested in it’s power to economy figures, it could allow a Grom sized bike with the power of my GSX1100 …. That would be a real fun Sleeper …

  • @tristanmosher6174
    @tristanmosher6174 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love rotarys and have been following the liquid rotary engine since it's development. When they designed this motor they looked at all engines, their benefits, and flaws, and literally addressed all of them. This has huge potential, and I will be super excited to see the future of this engine

  • @jimbillyjenkims
    @jimbillyjenkims 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh, SUPER quiet. Haha, jk. The fact that they eliminated the apex seals is huge in itself. I'll be interested to see how the intake and exhaust seals hold up. As far as I know, they've never been incorporated into the rotating assembly.

    • @NSResponder
      @NSResponder ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They didn't eliminate the seals, they moved them from the rotor to the ring. The rotor doesn't have apexes like the Wankel rotor does.

  • @eaglechawks3933
    @eaglechawks3933 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the idea. I would like to see data on lubrication and cooling it though - seems like that much power in that small a package would generate a lot of heat.

    • @NotABot-px7ky
      @NotABot-px7ky ปีที่แล้ว

      one main problem w the wankel engine is that it requires burning oil, which this does not do. Additionally, because the apex seals dont move, they are less likely to fail. As for cooling, there are plenty of innovative ways to cool things that are much hotter than this

  • @camo8768
    @camo8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know if it's a long term proposition, but it sounds MAGICAL

  • @nathanhale7444
    @nathanhale7444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The biggest problem I see is the same as all rotary style engines have. Blowby coming from the flat sides. You can either lube the crap outta the sides and burn oil or settle for short lived engines. You could run oil in the fuel but then you'd still be burning oil. I think it would take some kind of advancement in micro particle anti friction oil additives to allow the high enough tolerances for the motor to be reliable.

    • @mdj391
      @mdj391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look at their website. Intrinsic construction and location of the seal solve the oil problem.

    • @jlo13800
      @jlo13800 ปีที่แล้ว

      Graphene

  • @sol666
    @sol666 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is still a metal on metal contact engine. The reason rotary engines failed was because unlike a traditional piston engine that only makes contact with the walls of the combustion chamber with a spring loaded thin metal ring, rotary engines didnt just use a bigger metal surface to make contact with the chamber walls but its entire working required it to do it constantly, at very high speed and with force scraping sideways so no part of the chamber remained untouched. That means once it has reached the end of its durability, no mechanic can rebuild it correctly due the odd shape of the inner chamber (piston chambers are cylindrical and boring equipment are made for cylindrical cavities). When working with metals simple shapes can be recreated with much higher precision and lower cost then odd shapes like oblong or triangle which need a far more specialized and expensive metal cutting tool. I'd say the engine was designed to be discarded after use with the intent of preventing engine builders from fixing it. It is an all too common ploy used by chinese manufacturers to increase their sales volume by sacrificing customer confidence and product durability.

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch ปีที่แล้ว

    Going back in your list I found this. But you have covered it a few times since this one. I do hope it works out, it does sound great. The apex seals and the seals towards the housing are the close tolerances to meet I guess.

  • @spunkyprep
    @spunkyprep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I want to see a longevity test.

  • @myparadiseonbantayanisland9030
    @myparadiseonbantayanisland9030 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How clean is the exhaust, rotary's exhaust was very smoggy.

  • @neirad537
    @neirad537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also another benefit of this design I think is that it will heat up the entire engine equality, instead of only having only one side where the combustion happen.

  • @DANTHETUBEMAN
    @DANTHETUBEMAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree 👍 they need to stack 3 or 4 of them and have automatic oiling systems.

    • @kentonian
      @kentonian ปีที่แล้ว

      You can’t as the shaft is the air intake

  • @kayakMike1000
    @kayakMike1000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if I release plans to build this engine under a creative commons license? I think I might get in trouble with patents, it would be interesting. Require a fairly snazzy bit of casting

  • @rovz
    @rovz ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I just read about this engine on morning brew. Looks they planning on using it as a generator for ev's and also for drones.

  • @Nabraska49
    @Nabraska49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    And the big question is how efficient is it..

    • @mdj391
      @mdj391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The cycle is approximately 30% more efficient than an Otto or Diesel cycle engine with their most favorable tests, and has about 5x power density over Otto and almost 10x power density over Diesel, so that motor can fit into a ton of really small places. Or be one big awesome motor if sized the same as the traditional ones.

    • @richr161
      @richr161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mdj391 Durability, Emmisions, Hp.
      There are a lot of things more important than raw hp/weight.
      I don't see the benefits over this, when a 2 stroke engine covers all the same bases, while being more durable.
      It will also have the same downfalls of a 2 stroke and rotary. Those oblong chambers aren't going to burn as efficiently as traditional chambers will.
      Unburnt fuel will make it way outside of the exhaust port leading to poor efficiency. Same problem rotary engines had, exactly why they burnt so much fuel.
      Durability is still questionable. You still going to have to oil this, with oil in the combustion chamber. Its not a death sentence, but finding the balance between having a short lived motor and passing emissions is going to be a challenge.
      Ultimately i can't see a use for it. If i wanted the least amount of weight and high hp i would run a 2 stroke engine for small applications or motorcycles.
      Big applications there isn't much use because the 4 strokes have been ironed out to almost perfection.
      The only application i see is generator/electric vehicle hybrids. Constant rpm/ low weight/ efficient.
      But then why not rotary. They excel at generator function too.

    • @redcrafterlppa303
      @redcrafterlppa303 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richr161 why traditional rotaries are bad as generators? Simply because they die quickly when run at fuel optimal rpm's. For a rotary to last they need to rev high. Which is also why they aren't great for everyday cars. The redesigned rotary with its 3 combustions per cycle fix the low rpm problems.

    • @jlo13800
      @jlo13800 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 strokes in bigger application suck to, i hate them in cars trucks also and i like the 2 stroke XTS 210 2 stroke version of this engine. Also looking at Rotax and achates power 2 strokes also

  • @andreaskampe9143
    @andreaskampe9143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It has the same flaw as a Wankle engine, it needs super precision CNC machined rotor and housing a traditional piston achieves the precision by drilling, much much faste/ easier/cheaper and reliable.

  • @h2opower
    @h2opower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like it and think they should get a Mazda and swap in their engine and see what happens.

  • @mattschwensen9562
    @mattschwensen9562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this engine and the innovative design but keep in mind we already have mass produced 65cc 2T engines that put out over 15 hp.

  • @easternwoods4378
    @easternwoods4378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looks like the reverse of the Wankle. The Wankle has a triangular rotor and a figure 8 chamber. This has a triangular chamber and figure 8 rotor. What I want to know is the durability. How does it stand up to aircraft overhaul requirements, s piston and vs turbine

    • @mdj391
      @mdj391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have already used it to make a hybrid airplane. Check their website.

  • @DazeDream
    @DazeDream ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A constant problem with all rotary engines is that they burn a lot of oil. This would too.

  • @kingmasterlord
    @kingmasterlord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I came up with this exact same idea independently when I tried to solve the problem of apex seals. this is just a first pass at combustion sequence optimization. the apex seal problem has only been _mitigated_ with this design.

    • @timwegman5776
      @timwegman5776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I came up with it as well when I was playing with my hot wheel set. That was a long time ago so I would say I was first!

    • @alternatemusicaddict5226
      @alternatemusicaddict5226 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if they can do some kind of roller kind of like a ballpoint pen

    • @kentonian
      @kentonian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve just written a post about using a needle roller bearing as part of the seals

    • @alternatemusicaddict5226
      @alternatemusicaddict5226 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kentonian where

    • @kentonian
      @kentonian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alternatemusicaddict5226 don't know how to link to it but here is a copy and paste:
      It’s great as a 4 stroke version of a wankel but still we have the seals issue. I really want these guys to succeed but I have not seen any innovation in the apex seal. I know there is a company in Portsmouth that rebuilds Mazda rotaries and has increased the life in those engines but I think there is still a way to go.
      It’s the one overriding advantage with cylinders, the seals don’t have to conform to a moving face. They can be oiled from one side and there can be many of them per chamber.
      Has anyone thought of using a needle bearing as the primary seal? Then a sliding seal behind the needle roller bearing? This way the sliding seal doesn’t have to move. The needle roller can turn at the appropriate speed to match the rotor passing over it so there would be no sliding force on the rotor.

  • @truethought369
    @truethought369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Chris, I have been around engines most of my life. This engine that you are showing, has a lot going for it. 1, less moving parts. 2, less waste
    of energy due to being a rotatory type. 3, If it was multiplied up to six rotors, it would fit in between the chasse of any commercial truck!
    What's not like? Have a nice day.

    • @CynHicks
      @CynHicks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This one has definitely caught some attention, even in the modeling stage. Unfortunately there's a lot of apathy when it comes to new engine designs because many exaggerate the potential of their engines. The difference with this one, in my opinion, is it isn't actually a radically new design. It's a "radically improved" version of an existing proven design. Like you said, it has a lot going for it.
      I do wonder if stacking rotators with this design is practical though.

    • @timwegman5776
      @timwegman5776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CynHicks I was thinking why not scale up first rather than stack them unless he means to do both if so from the numbers I've read that would be a crazy over kill but fun to see!

    • @darin2009
      @darin2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A commercial truck? So as with a rotary type it makes. Disma torque at lower rpm.. regardless of the rotor count. Not good idea for grunting up hills and mountains with a load of 80k... spin it u say? Well good luck getting the 1/2 million moles or more that they do.. much less 150k spinning that thing under a severe load

    • @CynHicks
      @CynHicks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darin2009 Could it be that it could overcome this because of the extra cycles per revolution? Could it allow it to produce power at much lower rpms? I'm not an engineer but it makes sense to me. Also, even if it can't replace diesel low rpm torque many commercial trucks use gasoline for ligher duty hauling. If it can just compete with gasoline engine's low end torque while being able to idle as low it should be fine right?

    • @darin2009
      @darin2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CynHicks naw.. extra cycles won't help the low rpm trq loss. Due to the way it operates.. yea maybe better than a true rotary.. but by design and physics... when combustion happens... the piston/rotor/what ever ya wanna call it. Moves away from the ignition so fast and opens up a huge combustion area.. watch the vid slowly... there is almost zero dwell time fore pressure to rise at lower prm.prices.. ermm.. 4.5k and lower.. where all mass transit and trucks live... sure. It's awesome fore. High rpm power... but for a half a million miles to 1 million miles on a low rpm chugging working semi... just isn't feasible. Pulling power. Worked of pure low rpm is 4k and below. Diesel stump yanking nutz..nuts... a rotary in any iteration may do this with the proper gearing.... but for how long.... sorry.. builds to much heat on seals.. in any form... this is why a higher revving gasoline. Piston engine isn't used... pulling isn't about power... it's pure torque. And life expactancy..expectancy... a rotary.. sure. Power galore... but not for commercial use

  • @KelzCasa
    @KelzCasa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still want to know why the ‘apex seals’ aren’t serviceable from the outside of the rotor case. Could you not pull a service cover, remove, and replace?

  • @kcjones6034
    @kcjones6034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This motor is rad. 😎 I like it alot.

    • @ChrisVSCars
      @ChrisVSCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also think is awesome😁

  • @motoflyte
    @motoflyte ปีที่แล้ว

    Whenever I see this guys adds for the engine I always have a great laugh

  • @DeepakKumar-cd8ny
    @DeepakKumar-cd8ny ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like I have been hearing about this engine for a decade and have not seen a product yet.

  • @irishn8
    @irishn8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that the seals being fixed to the engine case instead of the piston will make a ton of difference as they don’t move and can be fitted with oiling nozzles of needed

  • @TurkVladimir
    @TurkVladimir 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again very useful information Salute to you .

  • @Name_Lessness
    @Name_Lessness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm interested in seeing a hybrid version of this with the usage of regenerative braking in cars. For motorcycles using a dual rotary concept (power to each wheel) like this would redesign motorcycles. Riding a shiftless motorcycle isn't preferable.

  • @Paul-kp1tu
    @Paul-kp1tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes i agree with the sentiments, bring it on so there will be some alternative to EVs, i love the living breathing combustion engines so anything to keep them available is very very good news

  • @patjakker6730
    @patjakker6730 ปีที่แล้ว

    two things in this video that make you (me) think:
    1. " emission laws "
    2. " lubricated seals in the combustion chamber "

  • @outsider7658
    @outsider7658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glömde att fråga om, hur fungerar kylningen av motorn i fråga?
    Hur mycket låter den vid gång?
    Behövs yttre ljuddämpare och kylning, som sagt?

  • @kevinlane1219
    @kevinlane1219 ปีที่แล้ว

    You had me at "any fuel".☺

  • @herzogsbuick
    @herzogsbuick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the design of this engine, I've known about it for years. But I feel like you presented it in a way that was very, very optimistic, since it's not in production yet, or you make it sound like some of its properties are unique, when they're not. Here's your list:
    1. Scalable -- My friends works at a power plant that has an on-demand generator: it's an inline 8 cylinder engines with pistons the size of a man. Reciprocating engines are scalable, too.
    2. Quiet. I think the footage at the end of that go kart says it's not quiet, I wouldn't expect it to be quiet.
    3. "No Vibrations" -- Their design seems to be more balanced than a reciprocating engine, but c'mon
    Also, most ICEs can be adapted to multiple fuels. Different grades of gasoline, propane, natural gas, or hydrogren for instance for engines with spark plugs, diesel, biodiesel, etc on the other side. I would love to think this engine can run both high-compression fuels like diesel, and low compression fuels like gas, without chanyges. I just don't see that as possible.
    Again, I fucking love this engine!! The first time I heard of a Wankle 20+ years ago, I dove deep and it tickled my brain. Then, years ago when I heard someone inverted the Wankle's geometry, I pooped my pants. I want this to work. I want to play with them. But that's gonna come from honesty. Being excited is great, but this video came off like it's perfect. I still subscribed though, hope to see you grow.

    • @herzogsbuick
      @herzogsbuick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DontWorryDiaperJoeGotYouCovered do you have a name of the engine or link? I couldn't find anything about them working on a non-Wankel design

  • @shawns0762
    @shawns0762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those seals will ensure that this design will never replace conventional engines

    • @mdj391
      @mdj391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The seals are actually just as good as modern ICE because of how they do it. They were actually featured on Discovery for their process. Check their website.

  • @glenrisk5234
    @glenrisk5234 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's an interesting evolution of the rotary principle.

  • @MrRolnicek
    @MrRolnicek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This seems like the best choice for a Paraglider engine or a similar ultralight ... but I'd say it probably should be 3D printed. Forget about developing manufacturing methods for the engine, just 3D print it.

    • @richr161
      @richr161 ปีที่แล้ว

      just use a 2 stroke engine for a paraglider. Its going to be hard to get lighter and more simple than that.

    • @MrRolnicek
      @MrRolnicek ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richr161 Those 2stroke paramotor engines are bulky and heavy. and 90% of the reason why is because of the exhaust. This type of engine shouldn't need any exhaust pipe at all.
      It's not simpler, that's true and it's likely not going to be as powerful but it's most likely going to be smaller and lighter.

  • @komrade223
    @komrade223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have thousands of hours running single piston, 2 stroke chainsaws. My favorite saw and daily work horse is over 20 years old. I have resisted computer controlled carbs in favor of mechanical simplicity. I even pass up the more powerful fuel injected saw that is available.
    But if this type of engine can compete with my beloved 440 in power to weight?
    This engine looks like it wants to deliver torque. In my applications, that could be huge. While also not needing 2 stroke oil. Another huge plus in my own opinion. I will miss the backfires that my aftermarket exhaust creates. But lower vibration is super attractive.

    • @Jarmezrocks
      @Jarmezrocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did he actually mention that it doesn't require 2 stroke oil? I must have missed that part?
      2 stroke actually smells nice though? In Australia we have a cliche movie called 'The Castle' which makes good reference to the point I'm trying to make lol

    • @komrade223
      @komrade223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jarmezrocks I'm asthmatic, some chemical fumes trigger inflammation bad in me. Cheap two stroke oil can choke me out. But running straight fuel means no worries, just get some proper octane fuel and go.

    • @Jarmezrocks
      @Jarmezrocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@komrade223 I have asthma too and yes I too agree less fumes the better. 2 stroke only smells nice when it's wofting in the breeze diluted from afar 😁
      On a side note if you are "suffering" from your asthma conditions (in general) you should ask your doctor for a prescription for Breo Ellipta (fluticasone furoate)25mg inhaler👍
      Since using this I have not suffered from any asthma symptoms in many years!

    • @jlo13800
      @jlo13800 ปีที่แล้ว

      This engine would use 2 stroke oil and there is nothing wrong with that. I f i ever get the XTS 210 im using nothing but synthetic 2 stroke oil and i got plenty of it.

  • @chasx7062
    @chasx7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that little wedge in the middle of each side will wear out quickly

  • @nothankyou7766
    @nothankyou7766 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any new technology is always worth looking at.

  • @AllenBarclayAllen
    @AllenBarclayAllen ปีที่แล้ว

    4:37 Ya , highly about time
    This can be an outboard motor or an aircraft motor even as a diesel . Using the blade to vent and retrieve fuel is genius that the designers of the Wankel didn't get ..!

  • @christophercharles9645
    @christophercharles9645 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. Tune in next week when Chris VS Cars MAKES one!!!

  • @yogiguitar1
    @yogiguitar1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i keep looking at this motor and i love it! i hope they do a small capacity like a 125cc version that can kick out 30+ horses in a motorcycle. like a yz on road tyres with one of those motors .

  • @AlexanderTzalumen
    @AlexanderTzalumen ปีที่แล้ว

    This seems like it could easily displace the entire small-motor market sector, gas scooters, dirt bikes, atvs, snowmobiles, jetskis, lawn mowers, chainsaws, leaf blowers, snow blowers, backup generators, outboard motors, really anything using a two-stroke or a 1-2 piston 4-stroke hoyle be able to benefit.
    We might even see more use of electric transmission drive trains in small motor applications. I'd love to see one of these powering an electric drive train on a stretch ruckus.

  • @Kevin-vv6oe
    @Kevin-vv6oe หลายเดือนก่อน

    From lawnmowers to drones

  • @peterxyz3541
    @peterxyz3541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m following engine tech because I’m into light sports aircraft

  • @tims8603
    @tims8603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wankel engines have several flaws that are almost impossible to overcome. The seals are scraping the chamber walls requiring oil to be injected into the engine. The seals wear out requiring an engine tear down. They don't get good fuel economy. The combustion occurs in only one chamber causing a hot spot which makes even cooling difficult. This engine seems to overcome those flaws. I can hardy wait to see how they hold up in the real world.

    • @fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn
      @fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They solved the problem with the apex seals like 20 years ago dude. And the engine fires on all three faces of the rotor. Delete the omp and premix the fuel so you're not burning crank case oil in the combination chamber.

    • @tims8603
      @tims8603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn You made some claims. Now show me where you got that info.

    • @fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn
      @fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're kidding right? Go watch some of Rob dahms videos or angel motor sports. It's literally just making sure your clearances are right and make sure none of your side seal on the rotors are sticking and dowel the block to keep it from twisting when you start making power because these are basically Oreos and they twist

  • @raymondbaring8470
    @raymondbaring8470 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was today's year old when I learn of this engine type existence, I'm ashamed of myself. What a genius design!

  • @aaronrodgers5852
    @aaronrodgers5852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have you ever done a video on cyclones External Combustion Engine? would like to a video on that and your take on it.

    • @ChrisVSCars
      @ChrisVSCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No but it sounds awesome😁 ill do some research on it and make a video💪

    • @johnburns4017
      @johnburns4017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This engine appears to have be been dropped from the radar. It was only suitable for large applications.

    • @mdj391
      @mdj391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @John Burns, the majority of applications are currently for ultralight vehicles or generators. Upscaling for these guys is primarily via multiple engines, and they are completing a fairly huge contract right now. Check their website.

  • @Hodenkat
    @Hodenkat ปีที่แล้ว

    It took a long time for something like the CV transmission to be adopted for mass production, but I hope this engine gets adopted much faster.

  • @mikaelbergman8259
    @mikaelbergman8259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exhaust gas temperatures in efficient high output engines reach in excess of 900 degrees centigrade and pistons are normally cooled by large and close contact with cylinder wall and oil spray under piston is often used. The rotor here with exhaust channel seem difficult to cool well. High temperatures may give sealing problems and material problems on all sides of the rotor probably. Running correct fuel/air mixture for correct catalytic converter function gives high exhaust temperatures.

  • @LichaelMewis
    @LichaelMewis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The end clip with the go-kart sounds like it's turning up 7K RPM and moving around 5 mph.

  • @neilyakuza6595
    @neilyakuza6595 ปีที่แล้ว

    The oval design of the rotational piston is cool, but again only time will tell how long the seals will last.

  • @davidbsmith8944
    @davidbsmith8944 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you please show us a 4 Rotor version!, in Diesel!.

  • @Rose_Butterfly98
    @Rose_Butterfly98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They're perfect for motorcycles.
    Do they do well with supercharging?

    • @jlo13800
      @jlo13800 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes the XTS 210 is a 2 stroke self supercharged varient.

  • @amphibiousone7972
    @amphibiousone7972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liquid Piston Engine has much potential. IMHO

  • @charleshorseman55
    @charleshorseman55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:23 I wonder if there is any scavenging effect to be had with a tuned exhaust? How about forced induction?

  • @outsider7658
    @outsider7658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay. When and if, it´s for sale, let me know. This might suit for my machinery.

  • @GWAYGWAY1
    @GWAYGWAY1 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is always the seals that fail, side seals and the combustion seals. Needs loving car to progress in development.😊

  • @DrWrapperband
    @DrWrapperband 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any revs above 3000RPM cause huge amounts of vibration if there is the slightest unbalance.

    • @mdj391
      @mdj391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s stable enough they use it to power hybrid airplanes.

    • @catchnkill
      @catchnkill ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mdj391 They power drone only, not yet aeroplane.

  • @GilmerJohn
    @GilmerJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most folks just aren't worried about fentanyl. The problems are concentrated among folks we don't usually encounter and that we just don't care about. Programs like ensuring the EMTs carry the drug that can rescue folks that OD don't really get a lot of traction.

  • @AndrewCampbell-ut6jk
    @AndrewCampbell-ut6jk ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that there could be problems with the rotor seals as they do not have the benefit of centripetal force to hold them against the rotor. This may become a problem at higher RPM.

  • @regularguy8110
    @regularguy8110 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been demonstrated on a drone and the military is Very interested in it.

  • @josetierra8504
    @josetierra8504 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still have to give props to Rotary Engine,

  • @Proudfootzorz
    @Proudfootzorz ปีที่แล้ว

    Please Mazda, bring back the RX line with a scaled up version of this engine!

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert ปีที่แล้ว

    This might find a good home inside small aircraft like a Piper Cub or a Cessna 172. Or perhaps being used in motorcycles. In both applications you have the efficiency of a diesel engine without the excess weight.

  • @dmitriyshabalin815
    @dmitriyshabalin815 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to order this engine now, same size as Mazda RX-7 engine? If so, where can I order?

  • @paulstrych-ep7xu
    @paulstrych-ep7xu ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking this is great commercial application use. 5 horsepower out of 70 cm is not much. A dirty 80s NRD made Simson Comfort had a 70cc engine and made roughly 5hp. The 49cc version made 3.3. that 5 hp mark seems low. Would love to c the power graph charts.. hope they keep improving it. Who would make for some small gen set units. Thinking about the trucking industry, all the refrigerated trailers and commercial generators....

  • @electricbrightness9575
    @electricbrightness9575 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the problems with that engine design is that you can't make multi-rotor versions.

    • @onlythefarmer
      @onlythefarmer ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree, you could redesign the side plates with integrated intake porting on one side, and exhaust porting on the other. Add rotors like making a big mac.

  • @AspartameBoy
    @AspartameBoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should be a winner

  • @balventray
    @balventray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would make a ideal small light aircraft engine

    • @mdj391
      @mdj391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally one of the first things they out it in. Check their website.

  • @BillHimmel
    @BillHimmel ปีที่แล้ว

    The position of the intake and exhaust ports seem to make it difficult to have several rotors!

  • @zef1097
    @zef1097 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't seem very durable to me with the seals and the large friction surface, also would probably burn a lot of oil, but it's a great idea, I hope they will continue the development.

  • @lot2196
    @lot2196 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder with the apex seals contained in the housing instead of the rotor would it be possible to replace the seals without an engine out rebuild. A removable cover could be over each seal and the old seal could slide out, a new seal slid in and the covers and caskets replaced. Just an idea, seems possible. So a seal replacement could be a regular maintenance procedure like a timing belt replacement. Not necessarily simple but easier and cheaper than a complete engine teardown. Thoughts?

    • @kentonian
      @kentonian ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a worthy idea as seals will still be a big problem if trying to run this engine for a long lifetime

  • @MrRotaryrockets
    @MrRotaryrockets ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they will have issues with wear and rebuilding the Rotor housings they are very complicated..if worn they would most likely be tossed out,and replaced with new as well, if any carbon is collected inside the engine it will most likely damage the rotor itself as the apex seals are now in the Housing..

  • @andygray563
    @andygray563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how is the rotor sealed?
    In a rotary they have required side and apex seals. I may have missed it but how do they achieve lasting seals to the combustion chambers?

    • @mdj391
      @mdj391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A precise compression figment. They were featured on Discovery or something for the process they used to do it. It’s pretty cool.

  • @nutzeeer
    @nutzeeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How efficient is it? Bigger better?

  • @brjones27
    @brjones27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this idea. Been trying to spread it around as much as I can, especially to folks like Rob Dahm.

  • @blackknight1397
    @blackknight1397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol I’m not sure if I can stand to listen to it that makes my dead teeth tingle

  • @Tiagomottadmello
    @Tiagomottadmello ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @kevinhoffman6592
    @kevinhoffman6592 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about cooling ? Rotor is constantly heated on one face just curious how the heat dissipates

  • @davidmonro3270
    @davidmonro3270 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every so many years the revolutionary rotary engine appears and then disappears.. Two reasons. It can't be sealed and high emissions. Years ago G.M. took on the Wankel engine and came out backwards. Had they phoned an engine designer friend of mine they could have saved themselves $300Ml.. Some just have to learn the hard way. Best of luck.

  • @dristal2
    @dristal2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think there is still a seal issue. Lubing will create a blue smoke oil burning issue.

  • @merlin1346
    @merlin1346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    liquid piston? this is a different take on the rotary. why no compression strips? that tells me this would have to be extremely fine tolerance's when using petroleum's due to emission's, that is why the rotary engines had them.